OGWT Manchester?

Tony Grant

Here’s a clip from OGWT which I’ve recently been sent (since I bragged about working on it) but it doesn’t look like TVC. From the glimpses of the cameras, I think they’re EMI 2005s, and I vaguely remember going on attachment to Manchester where they had them in the studios (I think).

How many OGWTs were there from Oxford Road, and who work on them? Oh, and the music’s not bad either!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5xXtDcckVE

Freddie King “The Things That I Used To Do”.

YouTube reference says it was recorded in London in 1975 on the BBC’s “Old Grey Whistle Test”

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Peter Neill

I’m not qualified to talk about cameras, but it looks like TC6 to me. There are several things that do look like TC — the yellow rails, the orange cable ramps, the style of staircase, the LSU10. I’d be surprised if they were all the same Oop North. 

Ian Hillson

I thought it could well have been a Thomson camera in the back of shot. In 1989, a set of Thomson 1530 (tube) cameras were bought for Elstree A and TVC equipped itself with Thomson CCDs from the early 1990s to replace the Links.

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But having said that, a look on Genome shows that Freddie King on OGWT predates this:  

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Oxford Road was in service by these dates 1972/73/75 and by this time EMI had stopped producing the 2001 so the Beeb was buying 2005s for colourising NPCs and Island Sites.  Methinks MR may have got the first of these 2005s.  Either Leeds (predates MR for building a brand new colour studio!) or News BH TV studio got the last of the 2001s (can’t remember which).

Tony Scott

The in shot cameras are definitely the dreadful EMI 2005s – therefore I assume this was recorded at NBH Manchester.

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I did work on OGWT in the early 1980s (by the way,  all the equipment, stairs etc, at the time, was the same [and coloured] as per TC).

Bill Jenkin

Besides, it’s way too early for Thompsons.  Freddie King died in 1976. I reckon it is Manchester with 2005s.

Simon Morris

I worked on a couple of OGWT in Manchester in 1978 when I was a trainee.  The camera is a EMI 2005 …  Sad how a newer version of the 2001 could be so wrong, at least from the point of view of operation.

Graeme Wall

EMI brought the prototype 2005 into Lime Grove to try out and the guys with it made the point that it wasn’t designed for the BBC but for the “colonial” market.  They hadn’t expected orders from British broadcasters and were talking about a possible 2010 as a 3 tube successor to the 2001.

Ian Hillson

I understand that the only commonality between the 2005 and 2001 was the optical block – the 2005 being 3 tube which left a spare outlet in it, up which they squirted the bias lighting (a sort of optical lift which was then electronically sat out) to improve dark picture areas.

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