[Tech1] Help in identifying a photograph - poss another female camerawomanM
Simon Vaughan
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Sat Jul 24 05:17:58 CDT 2021
Hi Sue,
I’ll send you a direct email with Jeannine Baker’s contact details once I’m at home later.
Best wishes
Si
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> On 23 Jul 2021, at 22:08, SUSAN MALDEN via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
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> This is an amazing string of emails with such important broadcasting historical information. As Albert has suggested - I would love the opportunity to bring all these threads together in an article for the BBCPA
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> Also I would like to explore the relevance of the BEHP interview with Bimbi Harris https://historyproject.org.uk/interview/barbara-bimbi-harris to these recollections from Molly.
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> Does any one have contact details for Dr Jeannine Baker who has recorded a long interview with Molly.It would be so important to hear this interview and make sure that it is saved for future
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> Regards Sue
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> I have been intrigued by this thread. When I joined Tech.Ops in 1960 the understanding was that the group of Lady Vision mixers "of a certain age" had been recruited in around 1946 as Camera operators while the men were still in the army. Molly's reminiscences sort of support this story (though she was with the BBC earlier than 1946). What I now find interesting was her mention of a colleague called Rachel. Could that be the legendary Rachel Blaney, famed for the double clunk as she kept the next camera on the Preview Monitor? It ties in with the way that Molly had to "mix".
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> On 23/07/2021 12:40, Alexandra Palace Television Society via Tech1 wrote:
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> My apologies for not replying sooner to this thread, but I have been waiting for an email from Australia where I have tracked down the lady featured in the photograph I shared a couple of weeks ago.
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> The lady in question is Molly Brownless, (nee Heritage, then Frood), and she was operating the camera in the original photograph! She was at AP before from April 1946 and was operating an Emitron on the re-opening day! I’ve been corresponding with Eileen, Molly’s daughter, who was with her the day she received my email – Molly remembers working on the ballet and has a great recall of her days working at AP. Molly is now 101, loving life and is constantly busy. After emigrating to Australia in 1951 she was a pioneer with Australian television when it was established and went on to have an important career within the industry.
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> Dr Jeannine Baker (who I give total credit for identifying Molly) has recorded a long interview with her, over three consecutive days. Jeannine has recently given a talk to an Australian conference on Molly career and it will be featured on a new website for the National Film and Sound Archive of Australia. She is also working on a book about women and technology in television covering the UK and Australia.
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> So, it would appear the first female camera operator was Molly Brownless – she was at AP on re-opening day in June 1946 and was on her camera during the afternoon transmission.
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> It was the beginning of April when we went to Alexandra Palace. From them on we spent all our time trying to pick up whatever we could from people who were around, who were far too frantic to be doing much about our training. And the girls were looked at somewhat aghast by those who were supposed to be giving what information they could. I suppose we more or less gravitated towards the things that seemed to interest us mostly. Audrey and Joan were happy enough on GRAMS, Isobel hung around Studio B watching whatever was going on in, as well us on the upstairs desk to see what she could pick up there. Rachel was, as far as I remember, from the beginning in Studio A.
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> Before we actually reopened Alexandra Palace, in June 1946, there were seven girls on each shift. First of all, when we started off, everyone was on days, and I didn’t really get to know the people then. Everyone was working, or not working (as the case may be), hanging around the place trying to pick up what information they could. I knew them by name, and you obviously got to know them properly later on when the shifts were changed around and so forth, but all the time I was there, there were just two shifts and we worked alternate days and even when one arranged a shift-swap, one didn’t see the person one swapped with because, well, they weren’t there when you were there - even though you could do that arranging.
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> I remember a chap called George Rose who had been a pre-war vision mixer - when it was all blokes. He was the only one who told any of us anything about vision mixing, as such. Otherwise, we just picked it up by watching whatever went on. When more of the girls came (and I can’t remember how long it was after the service reopened), but it was probably getting on for a year afterwards - we had somebody allocated to telecine. You had to clean all those mirrors on the Mechau projectors - thirty-two, if I remember rightly – (but I am not absolutely certain about that). Occasionally, I remember having to operate the projector in the film unit downstairs. This was where the new telecine was installed when it came, which Gordon Waters took over – that was not long before I left. I occasionally did Sound Floor, you know, shoving in a microphone either above or below on a stand - above or below the camera – but, mostly, I did camerawork to begin with and, of course, that was my delight.
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> Now the next thing that happened which was why I and Bimbi came off cameras was due to the fact that the camera men wanted to get themselves a higher grade and they were trying to upgrade their pay in relation to the other operators around – it was a very specialised job! All the cameramen, as far as I know, including me, belonged to the Association of Senior Technicians, and they were expecting this Association to back their claim. The Association didn’t like me being one of the camera crew because if I could do it then, obviously, it wasn’t such a very skilled job after all. Henry, to avoid any splitting up of the blokes in the studio I presume, told me that I wouldn’t be able to do camerawork anymore.
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> I remember that somebody on the other shift was actually working quite hard to take the exam. Bertie Baker, stated quite categorically that no female, even if they passed the exam, would be given a C Grade job, so we could pass the exam if we wanted too but we would still be B Grade. And so, somewhat to my relief and certainly to the disgust of a number of people, who felt they should have had the same opportunity as the rest did, simmer down. I stayed on B Grade until I left. Well, as you can imagine, I was pretty peeved about that, not just peeved, I was downright sick about the whole thing. I don’t know who told Bimbi, it might have been Henry – but, like me, she just wasn’t rostered on cameras again. Anyway, that was my end of women operating cameras. Henry decided that because I had been so disappointed about coming off cameras - he thought well, okay she can do some vision mixing and I went virtually from the floor on cameras to vision mixing most of the time.
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> When I got round to Vision Mixing we weren’t able to cut, we were only able to fade up and fade out. A mix was achieved by bringing the fader up onto the first stop, waiting, and then turning it full up whenever we wanted it. Because of the delay on the picture coming up, we couldn’t just bring one in and take one out as quickly as that without a bit of wind-up to begin with! They were beautiful knobs, you know, you grasped them, and they filled your hand – you knew you’d got hold of them. Underneath each fader was a little pushbutton which queued up the next picture that RACKS was supposed to put on the preview channel for us in the Gallery. In those days there were only two screens in the studio galleries - one was the transmitted picture and the one that RACKS put up on preview whichever that happened to be. When you had a quick sequence, you had to yell down to RACKS to be able to bring the preview channel up quickly for you, otherwise, you’d be fading up channels without actually having seen them first!
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> From: Alec Bray <alec.bray.2 at gmail.com>
> Date: Wednesday, 7 July 2021 at 10:00
> To: Simon Vaughan <simonvaughan.apts at gmail.com>
> Cc: APTS Archivist <apts at apts.org.uk>, Tech Ops <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
> Subject: Re: [Tech1] Help in identifying a photograph - poss another female camerawoman?
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> Thank you very much for the photos of the Emitron Cameras! Thanks, too, for the explanation of the horizontal "bar". As I mentioned, I had not seen any photos of the original Emitrons with lens hoods - that front-on view is an interesting photo in its own right. And I certainly did not release how many different "design iterations" there were for those early Emitrons and I can see why you thought that she might be operating the camera!!
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> I hope that this is of interest! I have reached the limit of what I can do to separate out the grey scale at this area.
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> A very intriguing picture, Simon - and with your photos of original Emitrons in various configurations you may be able to say what the lady is doing!
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