From plowmandave44 at gmail.com Wed Mar 1 10:37:05 2023 From: plowmandave44 at gmail.com (Dave Plowman) Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2023 16:37:05 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] One for a technical type. Message-ID: I use an old FreeView tuner just for radio in the shed. Sony VTX D800-U if it helps. Normally for R4 and R2. Went to Classic FM and the audio cut after a few seconds. R4 still fine. Thinking it might need a re-tune, took it to a TV so I could see the menu. Did a re-tune - same fault. Seems to be some channels, but not all. Coincides with the station ident coming up on the screen - or not. If I call up the EPG, the audio returns. Thinking the tuner was faulty, remembered I'd got another. Same make. It does exactly the same, so something seems to have changed with the FreeView signal fairly recently? Further checks show the fault on LBC and Capital too. But not on any of the BBC stations I tried. From dnewbitt at fireflyuk.net Wed Mar 1 12:40:12 2023 From: dnewbitt at fireflyuk.net (David Newbitt) Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2023 18:40:12 -0000 Subject: [Tech1] =?utf-8?q?AI=E2=80=99s_and_algorithms_don=E2=80=99t_go_b?= =?utf-8?q?irdwatching!?= In-Reply-To: <829D55DB-E7C0-4072-AF79-4C51158CD5E3@me.com> References: <829D55DB-E7C0-4072-AF79-4C51158CD5E3@me.com> Message-ID: <4A6524D93DF7497AA4F2B7D295F37948@DESKTOP6GGCRV1> Message to Philip Hi Philip ? a week or so ago I replied to your post privately and am wondering if you saw it? Regards, Dave Newbitt. From: Philip Tyler via Tech1 Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2023 8:31 PM To: BBC Tech-ops Subject: [Tech1] AI?s and algorithms don?t go birdwatching! The other day I posted a picture of an Indian Roller on Facebook and captioned it as that. Very shortly afterwards my FB account was suspended, for not abiding by the FB guidelines. And if I wanted to contest it I had 24 hours to do so. There was no mention of what in their guidelines I had transgressed. So I did contest it and a day later my account was reinstated, with no explanation. I have to assume as the only post I had made in a while was the picture of an Indian Roller that caused the problem. Which leads me to assume that AI?s and algorithms don?t go birdwatching. If they did they would have known about the Indian Roller. But being non birders they saw Indian and then roller and assumed it was some derogatory term. When the human being had a look they realised it was in fact a picture of an Indian Roller and reinstated my account. Philip and Bee https://www.flickriver.com/photos/philthebirdbrain/popular-interesting/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Tech1 mailing list Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: <9BB0F814231F4CFD819E31D31CDA3468@DESKTOP6GGCRV1> References: <9BB0F814231F4CFD819E31D31CDA3468@DESKTOP6GGCRV1> Message-ID: <28CFE2EC-BE01-4AA2-A6CD-D3D64E92EF27@mac.com> Brilliant Dave! Mike G > On 1 Mar 2023, at 20:17, David Newbitt via Tech1 wrote: > > For want of a better topic I offer a couple of humorous pictures. > > > > And if this isn?t too sexist:- > > <4%20Females%201%20male[3].jpg> > > Dave Newbitt. > -- > Tech1 mailing list > Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From keithwicksuk at gmail.com Thu Mar 2 01:21:37 2023 From: keithwicksuk at gmail.com (Keith Wicks) Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2023 07:21:37 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] One for a technical type. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I searched for: freeview box audio cuts out That gave me discussions on various forums about this problem. In particular: (from 2007) https://forums.digitalspy.com/discussion/531960/audio-drop-out-on-freeview and (from 2017) https://community.nowtv.com/t5/NOW-TV-Smart-Box/Sound-Cuts-Out-on-Freeview-Channels/m-p/442428 These forums don't necessarily have a solution that works for you, but it's interesting reading. As you can seem the problem has been around for many years. I'm interested in this matter because I want to set up an alternative system to use in case my trusty EyeTV Diversity tuner (by Elgato, since sold to Geniatech) ever fails (never any problem yet, and I have used it on my Mac for several years). KW On Wed, 1 Mar 2023 at 16:37, Dave Plowman via Tech1 wrote: > I use an old FreeView tuner just for radio in the shed. Sony VTX D800-U > if it helps. Normally for R4 and R2. Went to Classic FM and the audio > cut after a few seconds. R4 still fine. Thinking it might need a > re-tune, took it to a TV so I could see the menu. Did a re-tune - same > fault. Seems to be some channels, but not all. Coincides with the > station ident coming up on the screen - or not. If I call up the EPG, > the audio returns. > > Thinking the tuner was faulty, remembered I'd got another. Same make. It > does exactly the same, so something seems to have changed with the > FreeView signal fairly recently? > > Further checks show the fault on LBC and Capital too. But not on any of > the BBC stations I tried. > > -- > Tech1 mailing list > Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From plowmandave44 at gmail.com Thu Mar 2 04:19:01 2023 From: plowmandave44 at gmail.com (Dave Plowman) Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2023 10:19:01 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] One for a technical type. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <886751cb-f0d8-6733-c1a0-672f4bb2526b@gmail.com> Thanks Keith, but this is a relatively new problem here. It wasn't there late last year. And a bit of playing shows it applies to all the Global owned stations, but never the BBC ones. Only thing I could find by Googling was they'd changed their transmission contractor, but that was a couple of years ago. Since it always happens at the same time after selecting the channel. My guess is a flag of some sort coming on which my tuners don't understand. It doesn't happen on any of the TVs I have, or PVRs, etc. I'd hppily buy a new tuner if that sorted it - but don't think they are made anymore. As all TVs have been FreeView for many years. If anyone has a tuner which does work OK I'd be grateful if they'd give the make and model and I'll look for a used one on Ebay. On 02/03/2023 07:21, Keith Wicks wrote: > I searched for: > freeview box audio cuts out > That gave me discussions on various forums about this problem. In > particular: > (from 2007) > https://forums.digitalspy.com/discussion/531960/audio-drop-out-on-freeview > and (from 2017) > https://community.nowtv.com/t5/NOW-TV-Smart-Box/Sound-Cuts-Out-on-Freeview-Channels/m-p/442428 > These forums don't necessarily have a solution that works for you, but > it's interesting reading. As you can seem the problem has been around > for many years. > I'm interested in this matter because I want to set up an alternative > system to use in case my trusty EyeTV Diversity tuner (by Elgato, since > sold to Geniatech) ever fails (never any problem yet, and I have used it > on my Mac for several years). > KW > > On Wed, 1 Mar 2023 at 16:37, Dave Plowman via Tech1 > > wrote: > > I use an old FreeView tuner just for radio in the shed. Sony VTX D800-U > if it helps. Normally for R4 and R2. Went to Classic FM and the audio > cut after a few seconds. R4 still fine. Thinking it might need a > re-tune, took it to a TV so I could see the menu. Did a re-tune - same > fault. Seems to be some channels, but not all. Coincides with the > station ident coming up on the screen - or not. If I call up the EPG, > the audio returns. > > Thinking the tuner was faulty, remembered I'd got another. Same > make. It > does exactly the same, so something seems to have changed with the > FreeView signal fairly recently? > > Further checks show the fault on LBC and Capital too. But not on any of > the BBC stations I tried. > > -- > Tech1 mailing list > Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk > > From alanaudio at me.com Thu Mar 2 04:39:26 2023 From: alanaudio at me.com (Alan Taylor) Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2023 10:39:26 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] One for a technical type. In-Reply-To: <886751cb-f0d8-6733-c1a0-672f4bb2526b@gmail.com> References: <886751cb-f0d8-6733-c1a0-672f4bb2526b@gmail.com> Message-ID: One of the things I find infuriating about digital television reception ( Freeview and Freesat on my TV ) is the way that stations are tuned. My Sony receiver only offers the ability to scan for stations. If I do a full scan, it constantly misses stations like ITV ( which I seldom watch ), but finds ITV 2, 3 &4 , together with their plus one variants and every obscure religious or shopping channel. Then when it has been working for a few weeks without me triggering a re-scan, it decides to forget stations ( BBC four has just vanished, Ch4+1 disappeared a while ago ). If I do a re-scan specifying that it only adds new stations, it doesn't find the ones I want, but gives me any number of additional foreign news, religion, gambling or shopping channels. I would like to have the ability to manually tune in a specific station, something akin to how I remember doing in the 1960s by tweaking a tuning slug in the tuner module, but manufacturers don?t seem to want us to do that anymore. The solution that works for me is to access the missing channels online and feed it to my TV. In effect my TV screen is becoming just a monitor to display the channels which my TV should be able to receive all by itself if it did what it was supposed to do. Alan > On 2 Mar 2023, at 10:19, Dave Plowman via Tech1 wrote: > > ?Thanks Keith, but this is a relatively new problem here. It wasn't there late last year. And a bit of playing shows it applies to all the Global owned stations, but never the BBC ones. Only thing I could find by Googling was they'd changed their transmission contractor, but that was a couple of years ago. Since it always happens at the same time after selecting the channel. My guess is a flag of some sort coming on which my tuners don't understand. It doesn't happen on any of the TVs I have, or PVRs, etc. I'd hppily buy a new tuner if that sorted it - but don't think they are made anymore. As all TVs have been FreeView for many years. If anyone has a tuner which does work OK I'd be grateful if they'd give the make and model and I'll look for a used one on Ebay. > >> On 02/03/2023 07:21, Keith Wicks wrote: >> I searched for: >> freeview box audio cuts out >> That gave me discussions on various forums about this problem. In particular: >> (from 2007) >> https://forums.digitalspy.com/discussion/531960/audio-drop-out-on-freeview >> and (from 2017) >> https://community.nowtv.com/t5/NOW-TV-Smart-Box/Sound-Cuts-Out-on-Freeview-Channels/m-p/442428 >> These forums don't necessarily have a solution that works for you, but it's interesting reading. As you can seem the problem has been around for many years. >> I'm interested in this matter because I want to set up an alternative system to use in case my trusty EyeTV Diversity tuner (by Elgato, since sold to Geniatech) ever fails (never any problem yet, and I have used it on my Mac for several years). >> KW >> On Wed, 1 Mar 2023 at 16:37, Dave Plowman via Tech1 > wrote: >> I use an old FreeView tuner just for radio in the shed. Sony VTX D800-U >> if it helps. Normally for R4 and R2. Went to Classic FM and the audio >> cut after a few seconds. R4 still fine. Thinking it might need a >> re-tune, took it to a TV so I could see the menu. Did a re-tune - same >> fault. Seems to be some channels, but not all. Coincides with the >> station ident coming up on the screen - or not. If I call up the EPG, >> the audio returns. >> Thinking the tuner was faulty, remembered I'd got another. Same >> make. It >> does exactly the same, so something seems to have changed with the >> FreeView signal fairly recently? >> Further checks show the fault on LBC and Capital too. But not on any of >> the BBC stations I tried. >> -- Tech1 mailing list >> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk >> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk >> > > -- > Tech1 mailing list > Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk From dave at davesound.co.uk Thu Mar 2 04:46:59 2023 From: dave at davesound.co.uk (Dave Plowman) Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2023 10:46:59 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] One for a technical type. In-Reply-To: References: <886751cb-f0d8-6733-c1a0-672f4bb2526b@gmail.com> Message-ID: To me, that sounds like a weak signal. What does the strength and quality menu say? Although odd to have the same on both FreeView and FreeSat. On 02/03/2023 10:39, Alan Taylor via Tech1 wrote: > One of the things I find infuriating about digital television reception ( Freeview and Freesat on my TV ) is the way that stations are tuned. My Sony receiver only offers the ability to scan for stations. If I do a full scan, it constantly misses stations like ITV ( which I seldom watch ), but finds ITV 2, 3 &4 , together with their plus one variants and every obscure religious or shopping channel. Then when it has been working for a few weeks without me triggering a re-scan, it decides to forget stations ( BBC four has just vanished, Ch4+1 disappeared a while ago ). If I do a re-scan specifying that it only adds new stations, it doesn't find the ones I want, but gives me any number of additional foreign news, religion, gambling or shopping channels. > > I would like to have the ability to manually tune in a specific station, something akin to how I remember doing in the 1960s by tweaking a tuning slug in the tuner module, but manufacturers don?t seem to want us to do that anymore. > > The solution that works for me is to access the missing channels online and feed it to my TV. In effect my TV screen is becoming just a monitor to display the channels which my TV should be able to receive all by itself if it did what it was supposed to do. > > Alan > > >> On 2 Mar 2023, at 10:19, Dave Plowman via Tech1 wrote: >> >> ?Thanks Keith, but this is a relatively new problem here. It wasn't there late last year. And a bit of playing shows it applies to all the Global owned stations, but never the BBC ones. Only thing I could find by Googling was they'd changed their transmission contractor, but that was a couple of years ago. Since it always happens at the same time after selecting the channel. My guess is a flag of some sort coming on which my tuners don't understand. It doesn't happen on any of the TVs I have, or PVRs, etc. I'd hppily buy a new tuner if that sorted it - but don't think they are made anymore. As all TVs have been FreeView for many years. If anyone has a tuner which does work OK I'd be grateful if they'd give the make and model and I'll look for a used one on Ebay. >> >>> On 02/03/2023 07:21, Keith Wicks wrote: >>> I searched for: >>> freeview box audio cuts out >>> That gave me discussions on various forums about this problem. In particular: >>> (from 2007) >>> https://forums.digitalspy.com/discussion/531960/audio-drop-out-on-freeview >>> and (from 2017) >>> https://community.nowtv.com/t5/NOW-TV-Smart-Box/Sound-Cuts-Out-on-Freeview-Channels/m-p/442428 >>> These forums don't necessarily have a solution that works for you, but it's interesting reading. As you can seem the problem has been around for many years. >>> I'm interested in this matter because I want to set up an alternative system to use in case my trusty EyeTV Diversity tuner (by Elgato, since sold to Geniatech) ever fails (never any problem yet, and I have used it on my Mac for several years). >>> KW >>> On Wed, 1 Mar 2023 at 16:37, Dave Plowman via Tech1 > wrote: >>> I use an old FreeView tuner just for radio in the shed. Sony VTX D800-U >>> if it helps. Normally for R4 and R2. Went to Classic FM and the audio >>> cut after a few seconds. R4 still fine. Thinking it might need a >>> re-tune, took it to a TV so I could see the menu. Did a re-tune - same >>> fault. Seems to be some channels, but not all. Coincides with the >>> station ident coming up on the screen - or not. If I call up the EPG, >>> the audio returns. >>> Thinking the tuner was faulty, remembered I'd got another. Same >>> make. It >>> does exactly the same, so something seems to have changed with the >>> FreeView signal fairly recently? >>> Further checks show the fault on LBC and Capital too. But not on any of >>> the BBC stations I tried. >>> -- Tech1 mailing list >>> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk >>> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk >>> >> -- >> Tech1 mailing list >> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk >> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk -- Dave P London SW From doug.prior at talktalk.net Thu Mar 2 05:34:58 2023 From: doug.prior at talktalk.net (doug prior) Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2023 11:34:58 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Missing Emails Message-ID: Sent from Mail for Windows I seem to be missing emails from this forum on my talktalkmail account . I can only see them as threads from other members. And they all arrive in my gmail account. They don?t appear to be in my spam or trash folders. Any ideas? Doug Prior -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mikej at bmanor.co.uk Thu Mar 2 06:20:05 2023 From: mikej at bmanor.co.uk (Mike Jordan) Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2023 12:20:05 -0000 Subject: [Tech1] One for a technical type. In-Reply-To: References: <886751cb-f0d8-6733-c1a0-672f4bb2526b@gmail.com> Message-ID: <5449158933664892A7814B82D5B2AA5A@Gigabyte> You think you have problems Alan! The satellite channel changes don't just involve BBC channels but many others, all to transmit in HD and still keep the SD versions hidden away. I have a WinTV card in my PC which is very good to have an occasional watch and also to record things for later viewing or to keep. To get the whole lot, one has to preferably delete an existing channel list and then do a search covering Satellite, DVB radio and possible composite inputs. To see all available one, has to choose scanning all these types of channels and with all the many many changes in satellite channels and some DVB channels, it is about 1500 channels selected. However many of these are c**p and so not only do those need deleting from the database but also rearranging to have good channels near the top of the list that displays when "Select your channel to watch". So the download is reasonably quick but HOURS spent editing the list to be as suits one. A copy of a satellite information page (like https://www.flysat.com/en/satellite/position/28-2-e ) is invaluable since the WinTV database just gives lots listed as "BBC1" etc but the Flysat page itemises all the varied BBC/ITV regional feeds with Sound and Vision IDs enabling sorting/deleting where required. At present I still am not sure where to find the "One BBC UK" channel which was talked about but that may only appear when ALL the BBC SD channels are switched off. As also mentioned in Radio Times which says people with an SD only satellite box may need a new one sometime in 2024. Ah well back to happy hours rearranging my channels! Their software however with the version I have, refuses to see London Live - which seems to be an oddity and on DAB lists, shows it as a separate frequency and not part of a MUX and the WinTV database can't be edited. Mike -----Original Message----- From: Alan Taylor via Tech1 Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2023 10:39 AM To: tech1 Subject: Re: [Tech1] One for a technical type. One of the things I find infuriating about digital television reception ( Freeview and Freesat on my TV ) is the way that stations are tuned. My Sony receiver only offers the ability to scan for stations. If I do a full scan, it constantly misses stations like ITV ( which I seldom watch ), but finds ITV 2, 3 &4 , together with their plus one variants and every obscure religious or shopping channel. Then when it has been working for a few weeks without me triggering a re-scan, it decides to forget stations ( BBC four has just vanished, Ch4+1 disappeared a while ago ). If I do a re-scan specifying that it only adds new stations, it doesn't find the ones I want, but gives me any number of additional foreign news, religion, gambling or shopping channels. I would like to have the ability to manually tune in a specific station, something akin to how I remember doing in the 1960s by tweaking a tuning slug in the tuner module, but manufacturers don?t seem to want us to do that anymore. The solution that works for me is to access the missing channels online and feed it to my TV. In effect my TV screen is becoming just a monitor to display the channels which my TV should be able to receive all by itself if it did what it was supposed to do. Alan From waresound at msn.com Thu Mar 2 06:20:45 2023 From: waresound at msn.com (Nick Ware) Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2023 12:20:45 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Missing Emails In-Reply-To: <97cd6f75-a836-43d3-8f4f-0bcebd708ee1@CO1NAM11FT081.eop-nam11.prod.protection.outlook.com> References: <97cd6f75-a836-43d3-8f4f-0bcebd708ee1@CO1NAM11FT081.eop-nam11.prod.protection.outlook.com> Message-ID: Ditch TalkTalk, I challenge you to succeed! I?m still being harassed on a weekly basis by them after agreeing closure in mid October, with nothing further owing, by November 14th. Still getting stroppy final demands for ?12.50 after all these weeks, and looking forward to being pursued for it in Court! Notice to close was given in October, and router etc returned to them in December as requested by them. Utter, utter trash. But if it?s any consolation, my heavily junk infested msn.com email address doesn?t get by any means all Tech1 emails either. Cheers, N. Nick Ware - Sent from my iPad On 2 Mar 2023, at 11:35, doug prior via Tech1 wrote: ? Sent from Mail for Windows I seem to be missing emails from this forum on my talktalkmail account . I can only see them as threads from other members. And they all arrive in my gmail account. They don?t appear to be in my spam or trash folders. Any ideas? Doug Prior -- Tech1 mailing list Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From paul at pgtmedia.co.uk Thu Mar 2 07:35:41 2023 From: paul at pgtmedia.co.uk (paul at pgtmedia.co.uk) Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2023 13:35:41 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] One for a technical type. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <82r0rup7irsmqo70jj8bkv13.1677764141333@pgtmedia.co.uk> Hi Alan, Is your recovery Freeview or Freesat? How old is the TV? (Design not bought date ) If it's Freeview, I am guessing you are having issues receiving some multiplex due to down cable or Ariel alignment? Are all the multiplexes in band for the Ariel type? Paul Thackray ? PGT Media Consulting Ltd. +44 7802 243979 Mail; paul at pgtmedia.co.uk ? Web; http://www.pgtmedia.co.uk Linkedin; http://uk.linkedin.com/pub/paul-thackray/19/379/746 IMDB; http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1488554/ ? Original Message ? From: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk Sent: 2 March 2023 10:40 To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk Reply to: alanaudio at me.com Subject: Re: [Tech1] One for a technical type. One of the things I find infuriating about digital television reception ( Freeview and Freesat on my TV ) is the way that stations are tuned.? My Sony receiver only offers the ability to scan for stations.? If I do a full scan, it constantly misses stations like ITV ( which I seldom watch ), but finds ITV 2, 3 &4 , together with their plus one variants and every obscure religious or shopping channel. Then when it has been working for a few weeks without me triggering a re-scan, it decides to forget stations ( BBC four has just vanished, Ch4+1 disappeared a while ago ). If I do a re-scan specifying that it only adds new stations, it doesn't find the ones I want, but gives me any number of additional foreign news, religion, gambling or shopping channels. I would like to have the ability to manually tune in a specific station, something akin to how I remember doing in the 1960s by tweaking a tuning slug in the tuner module, but manufacturers don?t seem to want us to do that anymore. The solution that works for me is to access the missing channels online and feed it to my TV.? In effect my TV screen is becoming just a monitor to display the channels which my TV should be able to receive all by itself if it did what it was supposed to do. Alan > On 2 Mar 2023, at 10:19, Dave Plowman via Tech1 wrote: > > ?Thanks Keith, but this is a relatively new problem here. It wasn't there late last year. And a bit of playing shows it applies to all the Global owned stations, but never the BBC ones. Only thing I could find by Googling was they'd changed their transmission contractor, but that was a couple of years ago. Since it always happens at the same time after selecting the channel. My guess is a flag of some sort coming on which my tuners don't understand. It doesn't happen on any of the TVs I have, or PVRs, etc. I'd hppily buy a new tuner if that sorted it - but don't think they are made anymore. As all TVs have been FreeView for many years. If anyone has a tuner which does work OK I'd be grateful if they'd give the make and model and I'll look for a used one on Ebay. > >> On 02/03/2023 07:21, Keith Wicks wrote: >> I searched for: >> freeview box audio cuts out >> That gave me discussions on various forums about this problem. In particular: >> (from 2007) >> https://forums.digitalspy.com/discussion/531960/audio-drop-out-on-freeview >> and (from 2017) >> https://community.nowtv.com/t5/NOW-TV-Smart-Box/Sound-Cuts-Out-on-Freeview-Channels/m-p/442428 >> These forums don't necessarily have a solution that works for you, but it's interesting reading. As you can seem the problem has been around for many years. >> I'm interested in this matter because I want to set up an alternative system to use in case my trusty EyeTV Diversity tuner (by Elgato, since sold to Geniatech) ever fails (never any problem yet, and I have used it on my Mac for several years). >> KW >> On Wed, 1 Mar 2023 at 16:37, Dave Plowman via Tech1 > wrote: >>??? I use an old FreeView tuner just for radio in the shed. Sony VTX D800-U >>??? if it helps. Normally for R4 and R2. Went to Classic FM and the audio >>??? cut after a few seconds. R4 still fine. Thinking it might need a >>??? re-tune, took it to a TV so I could see the menu. Did a re-tune - same >>??? fault. Seems to be some channels, but not all. Coincides with the >>??? station ident coming up on the screen - or not. If I call up the EPG, >>??? the audio returns. >>??? Thinking the tuner was faulty, remembered I'd got another. Same >>??? make. It >>??? does exactly the same, so something seems to have changed with the >>??? FreeView signal fairly recently? >>??? Further checks show the fault on LBC and Capital too. But not on any of >>??? the BBC stations I tried. >>??? --???? Tech1 mailing list >>??? Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk >>??? http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk >>??? > > -- > Tech1 mailing list > Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk -- Tech1 mailing list Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk From plowmandave44 at gmail.com Thu Mar 2 07:36:56 2023 From: plowmandave44 at gmail.com (Dave Plowman) Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2023 13:36:56 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Missing Emails In-Reply-To: <640089fd.050a0220.87b3a.cc17SMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING@mx.google.com> References: <640089fd.050a0220.87b3a.cc17SMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <33ffda21-28b9-24aa-3177-e25a7de1cec6@gmail.com> I set up a Gmail account specifically for this group. Since it seemed to have problems with my usual ones. But get posts to both it and my previous one. But recently, to my old one first - then quite a delay before they appear from Gmail, if at all. On 02/03/2023 11:34, doug prior via Tech1 wrote: > Sent from Mail for Windows > > I seem to be missing emails from this forum on my talktalkmail account . > I can only see them as threads from other > > members. And they all arrive in my gmail account. > > They don?t appear to be in my spam or trash folders. > > Any ideas? > > Doug Prior > > From alanaudio at me.com Thu Mar 2 08:16:24 2023 From: alanaudio at me.com (Alan Taylor) Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2023 14:16:24 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] One for a technical type. In-Reply-To: <82r0rup7irsmqo70jj8bkv13.1677764141333@pgtmedia.co.uk> References: <82r0rup7irsmqo70jj8bkv13.1677764141333@pgtmedia.co.uk> Message-ID: <141B5A4A-BD1D-4D08-851E-CE8BC69CACFA@me.com> The problem of vanishing channels applies equally to Freeview and Freesat they are there for a while and then they vanish, sometimes returning after a full retune, sometimes seemingly to vanish forever. The TV reports excellent signal strength on terrestrial, which is line of site to the Tx anyway, but doesn?t appear to offer a similar facility to indicate satellite signal strength, other than that it?s OK. I have a signal strength meter which shows a strong signal from the feeder into the coax socket on the TV. I just find it strange than successive attempts at a full scan fail to spot ITV, but never fail to find several hundred channels of tat. I don?t have any other TV sets in the house because we don?t watch that much television, but also have an Elgato tuner which plugs into my Mac. It?s fed from a different outlet from the aerial DA in the loft. The list of terrestrial channels picked up on the Sony TV and the Elgato tuner usually contains major channels which one or the other doesn?t seem to find, even though the feed should is nominally identical. Most of the television channels we do watch anre available via online services. I?m moving towards forgetting about the RF side and increasingly relying on online reception which is then fed to my TV screen via HDMI. The user interface on my Sony Bravia is a complete mess and hopelessly inconsistent, while that of my set top box is vastly better thought out and quite intuitive. A really neat feature on the set top box is ?What did he say??, where it automatically rewinds to ten seconds earlier and repeats that part with the subtitles temporarily displayed. Alan > On 2 Mar 2023, at 13:36, paul at pgtmedia.co.uk wrote: > > ? > Hi Alan, > Is your recovery Freeview or Freesat? > How old is the TV? (Design not bought date ) > > If it's Freeview, I am guessing you are having issues receiving some multiplex due to down cable or Ariel alignment? > Are all the multiplexes in band for the Ariel type? > > > > Paul Thackray > > > > PGT Media Consulting Ltd. > > +44 7802 243979 > > Mail; paul at pgtmedia.co.uk > > > > Web; http://www.pgtmedia.co.uk > > Linkedin; http://uk.linkedin.com/pub/paul-thackray/19/379/746 > > IMDB; http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1488554/ > > > > Original Message > > > From: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > Sent: 2 March 2023 10:40 > To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > Reply to: alanaudio at me.com > Subject: Re: [Tech1] One for a technical type. > > > One of the things I find infuriating about digital television reception ( Freeview and Freesat on my TV ) is the way that stations are tuned. My Sony receiver only offers the ability to scan for stations. If I do a full scan, it constantly misses stations like ITV ( which I seldom watch ), but finds ITV 2, 3 &4 , together with their plus one variants and every obscure religious or shopping channel. Then when it has been working for a few weeks without me triggering a re-scan, it decides to forget stations ( BBC four has just vanished, Ch4+1 disappeared a while ago ). If I do a re-scan specifying that it only adds new stations, it doesn't find the ones I want, but gives me any number of additional foreign news, religion, gambling or shopping channels. > > I would like to have the ability to manually tune in a specific station, something akin to how I remember doing in the 1960s by tweaking a tuning slug in the tuner module, but manufacturers don?t seem to want us to do that anymore. > > The solution that works for me is to access the missing channels online and feed it to my TV. In effect my TV screen is becoming just a monitor to display the channels which my TV should be able to receive all by itself if it did what it was supposed to do. > > Alan > > >> On 2 Mar 2023, at 10:19, Dave Plowman via Tech1 wrote: >> >> ?Thanks Keith, but this is a relatively new problem here. It wasn't there late last year. And a bit of playing shows it applies to all the Global owned stations, but never the BBC ones. Only thing I could find by Googling was they'd changed their transmission contractor, but that was a couple of years ago. Since it always happens at the same time after selecting the channel. My guess is a flag of some sort coming on which my tuners don't understand. It doesn't happen on any of the TVs I have, or PVRs, etc. I'd hppily buy a new tuner if that sorted it - but don't think they are made anymore. As all TVs have been FreeView for many years. If anyone has a tuner which does work OK I'd be grateful if they'd give the make and model and I'll look for a used one on Ebay. >> >>>> On 02/03/2023 07:21, Keith Wicks wrote: >>> I searched for: >>> freeview box audio cuts out >>> That gave me discussions on various forums about this problem. In particular: >>> (from 2007) >>> https://forums.digitalspy.com/discussion/531960/audio-drop-out-on-freeview >>> and (from 2017) >>> https://community.nowtv.com/t5/NOW-TV-Smart-Box/Sound-Cuts-Out-on-Freeview-Channels/m-p/442428 >>> These forums don't necessarily have a solution that works for you, but it's interesting reading. As you can seem the problem has been around for many years. >>> I'm interested in this matter because I want to set up an alternative system to use in case my trusty EyeTV Diversity tuner (by Elgato, since sold to Geniatech) ever fails (never any problem yet, and I have used it on my Mac for several years). >>> KW >>>> On Wed, 1 Mar 2023 at 16:37, Dave Plowman via Tech1 > wrote: >>> I use an old FreeView tuner just for radio in the shed. Sony VTX D800-U >>> if it helps. Normally for R4 and R2. Went to Classic FM and the audio >>> cut after a few seconds. R4 still fine. Thinking it might need a >>> re-tune, took it to a TV so I could see the menu. Did a re-tune - same >>> fault. Seems to be some channels, but not all. Coincides with the >>> station ident coming up on the screen - or not. If I call up the EPG, >>> the audio returns. >>> Thinking the tuner was faulty, remembered I'd got another. Same >>> make. It >>> does exactly the same, so something seems to have changed with the >>> FreeView signal fairly recently? >>> Further checks show the fault on LBC and Capital too. But not on any of >>> the BBC stations I tried. >>> -- Tech1 mailing list >>> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk >>> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk >>> >> >> -- >> Tech1 mailing list >> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk >> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk > > -- > Tech1 mailing list > Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk From alanaudio at me.com Thu Mar 2 08:34:39 2023 From: alanaudio at me.com (Alan Taylor) Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2023 14:34:39 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Missing Emails In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pat.heigham at amps.net Fri Mar 3 02:24:43 2023 From: pat.heigham at amps.net (Pat Heigham) Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2023 08:24:43 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Missing Emails In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8cc3366d-9df4-a792-4031-2caa63d43c81@amps.net> This talk of trying to cancel contracts reminded me that some years ago, there was a TV programme supplier trading as Top-Up TV. I signed up, but then they reduced the number of available channels - so I cancelled. Under their terms, I had not given six months notice, so they proposed charging me for that time. Threatened court action if I didn't pay - breach of contract. I countered that if they took me to court, I would bring a counter-action against them for breach of contract on their part, as they were not providing the service that I had signed up to and paid for. Then they offered a reduced subscription, if I stayed with them. Thus, they had effectively admitted their fault. I refused, and it all got dropped. (I had had a word with a QC who was a personal friend!) But I would have loved being in front of Judge John Deed! Many software merchants will bill your card every year, for a recurrent subscription, once they have your credit card details. This system needs to be altered to only pass the payment if authorised. But you do get an advice prior. Best Pat On 02/03/2023 14:34, Alan Taylor via Tech1 wrote: > I had similar problems trying to terminate my contract with Virgin. > Before that I had similar problems trying to leave NTL. > > In both cases I had set up the account as a recurring charge on my > credit card. The problem was that it appeared that such arrangements > can only be cancelled by the beneficiary, not the customer. I had to > get the credit card provider to do a charge back after I provided > evidence that I had requested to terminate the contract long after the > minimum contract period. Virgin kept threatening to take me to court, > but the letters stopped eventually. > > These days everything is paid by Direct Debit which I can instantly > cancel if needed. > > Alan From plowmandave44 at gmail.com Fri Mar 3 07:35:43 2023 From: plowmandave44 at gmail.com (Dave Plowman) Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2023 13:35:43 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] One for a technical type. In-Reply-To: <141B5A4A-BD1D-4D08-851E-CE8BC69CACFA@me.com> References: <82r0rup7irsmqo70jj8bkv13.1677764141333@pgtmedia.co.uk> <141B5A4A-BD1D-4D08-851E-CE8BC69CACFA@me.com> Message-ID: Since no-one on here has an explanation, I've e-mailed Arqiva. Since it is their mux I'm having the problems with. Whatever happened to the IBA? From alec.bray.2 at gmail.com Fri Mar 3 08:31:54 2023 From: alec.bray.2 at gmail.com (Alec Bray) Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2023 14:31:54 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Animated Engineers Message-ID: <8703164e-9b42-6faa-1eb8-1929dd31d555@gmail.com> Hi All, Back in February there was some chat about Buster Keaton and Railways, and Walt Disney and Railways. Thanks to Pat H. who prompted me to look at other people in the Disney studios, I have knocked up a piece for the Reading Society of Model Engineers' regular bulletin. I thought perhaps you might like to see it too -? attached Best regards, Alec -- ======= Alec Bray alec.bray.2 at gmail.com Mob: 07789 561 346 Tel: 0118 981 7502 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Graeme Wall From graeme.wall at icloud.com Fri Mar 3 08:52:57 2023 From: graeme.wall at icloud.com (Graeme Wall) Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2023 14:52:57 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Animated Engineers In-Reply-To: <16CE337D-6ED7-47AA-AAEA-ED94011FF6E4@icloud.com> References: <8703164e-9b42-6faa-1eb8-1929dd31d555@gmail.com> <16CE337D-6ED7-47AA-AAEA-ED94011FF6E4@icloud.com> Message-ID: <3855785D-8297-4566-9B33-68E460C26602@icloud.com> Pardon, Alec > On 3 Mar 2023, at 14:48, Graeme Wall via Tech1 wrote: > > Many thnks, Alex > >> On 3 Mar 2023, at 14:31, Alec Bray via Tech1 wrote: >> >> Hi All, >> Back in February there was some chat about Buster Keaton and Railways, and Walt Disney and Railways. >> Thanks to Pat H. who prompted me to look at other people in the Disney studios, I have knocked up a piece for the Reading Society of Model Engineers' regular bulletin. >> I thought perhaps you might like to see it too - attached >> >> Best regards, >> >> Alec >> >> -- >> ======= >> >> Alec Bray >> >> alec.bray.2 at gmail.com >> Mob: 07789 561 346 >> Tel: 0118 981 7502 >> -- >> Tech1 mailing list >> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk >> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk > > ? > Graeme Wall > > > > -- > Tech1 mailing list > Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk ? Graeme Wall From dnewbitt at fireflyuk.net Fri Mar 3 09:46:03 2023 From: dnewbitt at fireflyuk.net (David Newbitt) Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2023 15:46:03 -0000 Subject: [Tech1] Animated Engineers In-Reply-To: <8703164e-9b42-6faa-1eb8-1929dd31d555@gmail.com> References: <8703164e-9b42-6faa-1eb8-1929dd31d555@gmail.com> Message-ID: Thoroughly enjoyed that Alec. Hadn?t previously come across stream locomotive fans but think I?m probably one now! Super stuff. it reminded me of a chap in the West Somerset village I formerly lived in. I forget his name but he was called Baker ( I do remember his wife was Norah) and he had constructed rail track all round the perimeter of his modest garden to exercise the loco he constructed. I don?t recall the gauge but from memory the loco was about 4 ft long and had been 40 years in the making with every last tiny component manufactured on site in his home engineering workshop. Jaw dropping. Dave Newbitt. From: Alec Bray via Tech1 Sent: Friday, March 3, 2023 2:31 PM To: Tech Ops Subject: [Tech1] Animated Engineers Hi All, Back in February there was some chat about Buster Keaton and Railways, and Walt Disney and Railways. Thanks to Pat H. who prompted me to look at other people in the Disney studios, I have knocked up a piece for the Reading Society of Model Engineers' regular bulletin. I thought perhaps you might like to see it too - attached Best regards, Alec -- ======= Alec Bray alec.bray.2 at gmail.com Mob: 07789 561 346 Tel: 0118 981 7502 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Tech1 mailing list Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Whatever happened to the IBA? -- Tech1 mailing list Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk From dnewbitt at fireflyuk.net Fri Mar 3 09:54:55 2023 From: dnewbitt at fireflyuk.net (David Newbitt) Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2023 15:54:55 -0000 Subject: [Tech1] Animated Engineers In-Reply-To: <8703164e-9b42-6faa-1eb8-1929dd31d555@gmail.com> References: <8703164e-9b42-6faa-1eb8-1929dd31d555@gmail.com> Message-ID: <0F1C0F2E4C814F99AB58263B0E0B62FB@DESKTOP6GGCRV1> Repeat post with additions. Thoroughly enjoyed that Alec. Hadn?t previously come across stream locomotive fans but think I?m probably one now! Super stuff. it reminded me of a chap in the West Somerset village I formerly lived in. I forget his name but he was called Baker ( I do remember his wife was Norah) and he had constructed rail track all round the perimeter of his modest garden to exercise the loco he constructed. I don?t recall the gauge but from memory the loco was about 4 ft long and had been 40 years in the making with every last tiny component manufactured on site in his home engineering workshop. Jaw dropping. Dave Newbitt. PS. I think it likely that he would have been known to the Taunton Model Railway Group who have a permanent home at Bishops Lydeard on the preserved West Somerset Railway Group. Their website is well worth a look https://www.tauntonmodelrailwaygroup.co.uk/ From: Alec Bray via Tech1 Sent: Friday, March 3, 2023 2:31 PM To: Tech Ops Subject: [Tech1] Animated Engineers Hi All, Back in February there was some chat about Buster Keaton and Railways, and Walt Disney and Railways. Thanks to Pat H. who prompted me to look at other people in the Disney studios, I have knocked up a piece for the Reading Society of Model Engineers' regular bulletin. 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Best regards, Alec -- ======= Alec Bray alec.bray.2 at gmail.com Mob: 07789 561 346 Tel: 0118 981 7502 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alanaudio at me.com Fri Mar 3 10:29:01 2023 From: alanaudio at me.com (Alan Taylor) Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2023 16:29:01 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] One for a technical type. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <029C6254-86DF-421C-B3FC-8DE0A177D660@me.com> I think I?m the only one who mentioned both Freeview and Freesat because my TV picks up both and their tuning arrangements are equally frustrating on my TV. I think that Dave?s original enquiry was specific to Freeview. Alan > On 3 Mar 2023, at 15:47, paul--- via Tech1 wrote: > > ?(Sold! And re named) > > So it's specifically Freeview not Freesat? You had said both , which are different hence lack of suggestions as no one could see a common issue? > > > > > Paul Thackray > > > > PGT Media Consulting Ltd. > > +44 7802 243979 > > Mail; paul at pgtmedia.co.uk > > > > Web; http://www.pgtmedia.co.uk > > Linkedin; http://uk.linkedin.com/pub/paul-thackray/19/379/746 > > IMDB; http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1488554/ > > > > Original Message > > > From: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > Sent: 3 March 2023 13:36 > To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > Reply to: plowmandave44 at gmail.com > Subject: Re: [Tech1] One for a technical type. > > > > Since no-one on here has an explanation, I've e-mailed Arqiva. Since it > is their mux I'm having the problems with. Whatever happened to the IBA? > > -- > Tech1 mailing list > Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk > -- > Tech1 mailing list > Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk From pat.heigham at amps.net Fri Mar 3 10:44:25 2023 From: pat.heigham at amps.net (Pat Heigham) Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2023 16:44:25 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] One for a technical type. In-Reply-To: <029C6254-86DF-421C-B3FC-8DE0A177D660@me.com> References: <029C6254-86DF-421C-B3FC-8DE0A177D660@me.com> Message-ID: I was annoyed when I could not load the app for PlayTV to my small 22" Samsung TV as it was apparently too old. I'm about to see if I can bounce it from my laptop with Cyberlink Power Director. Computers are all very well, when they work, but when they don't do what you want.... Pass the Paracetamol, or brandy, whichever is nearest! Pat On 03/03/2023 16:29, Alan Taylor via Tech1 wrote: > I think I?m the only one who mentioned both Freeview and Freesat because my TV picks up both and their tuning arrangements are equally frustrating on my TV. I think that Dave?s original enquiry was specific to Freeview. > > Alan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From plowmandave44 at gmail.com Fri Mar 3 13:09:27 2023 From: plowmandave44 at gmail.com (Dave Plowman) Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2023 19:09:27 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] One for a technical type. In-Reply-To: <029C6254-86DF-421C-B3FC-8DE0A177D660@me.com> References: <029C6254-86DF-421C-B3FC-8DE0A177D660@me.com> Message-ID: I don't think it's a tuning issue. It appears to me a difference between the muxes - if that's the correct name. It also seems quite difficult to find out who actually owns the transmitters that the various broadcasters use - they seem to change ownership often. According to the Wiki article I found. I could understand issues if in a poor signal area, but I can see the CP mast from this house. On 03/03/2023 16:29, Alan Taylor via Tech1 wrote: > I think I?m the only one who mentioned both Freeview and Freesat because my TV picks up both and their tuning arrangements are equally frustrating on my TV. I think that Dave?s original enquiry was specific to Freeview. > > Alan > >> On 3 Mar 2023, at 15:47, paul--- via Tech1 wrote: >> >> ?(Sold! And re named) >> >> So it's specifically Freeview not Freesat? You had said both , which are different hence lack of suggestions as no one could see a common issue? >> >> >> >> >> Paul Thackray >> >> >> >> PGT Media Consulting Ltd. >> >> +44 7802 243979 >> >> Mail; paul at pgtmedia.co.uk >> >> >> >> Web; http://www.pgtmedia.co.uk >> >> Linkedin; http://uk.linkedin.com/pub/paul-thackray/19/379/746 >> >> IMDB; http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1488554/ >> >> >> >> Original Message >> >> >> From: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk >> Sent: 3 March 2023 13:36 >> To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk >> Reply to: plowmandave44 at gmail.com >> Subject: Re: [Tech1] One for a technical type. >> >> >> >> Since no-one on here has an explanation, I've e-mailed Arqiva. Since it >> is their mux I'm having the problems with. Whatever happened to the IBA? >> >> -- >> Tech1 mailing list >> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk >> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk >> -- >> Tech1 mailing list >> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk >> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk > From waresound at msn.com Fri Mar 3 13:46:30 2023 From: waresound at msn.com (Nick Ware) Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2023 19:46:30 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] One for a technical type. In-Reply-To: References: <029C6254-86DF-421C-B3FC-8DE0A177D660@me.com> Message-ID: Could it be signal strength overload? An RF attenuator might help matters. There?s a well known saying amongst musicians in the Ecclesiastical fraternity, levelled against senior Clergy, that: ?The closer you are to the antenna, the worse the reception is.? Has to be based on some truth! Nick. Nick Ware - Sent from my iPad > On 3 Mar 2023, at 19:10, Dave Plowman via Tech1 wrote: > > ?I don't think it's a tuning issue. It appears to me a difference between the muxes - if that's the correct name. It also seems quite difficult to find out who actually owns the transmitters that the various broadcasters use - they seem to change ownership often. According to the Wiki article I found. I could understand issues if in a poor signal area, but I can see the CP mast from this house. > >> On 03/03/2023 16:29, Alan Taylor via Tech1 wrote: >> I think I?m the only one who mentioned both Freeview and Freesat because my TV picks up both and their tuning arrangements are equally frustrating on my TV. I think that Dave?s original enquiry was specific to Freeview. >> Alan >>>> On 3 Mar 2023, at 15:47, paul--- via Tech1 wrote: >>> >>> ?(Sold! And re named) >>> >>> So it's specifically Freeview not Freesat? You had said both , which are different hence lack of suggestions as no one could see a common issue? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Paul Thackray >>> >>> >>> PGT Media Consulting Ltd. >>> >>> +44 7802 243979 >>> >>> Mail; paul at pgtmedia.co.uk >>> >>> >>> Web; http://www.pgtmedia.co.uk >>> >>> Linkedin; http://uk.linkedin.com/pub/paul-thackray/19/379/746 >>> >>> IMDB; http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1488554/ >>> >>> >>> >>> Original Message >>> >>> >>> From: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk >>> Sent: 3 March 2023 13:36 >>> To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk >>> Reply to: plowmandave44 at gmail.com >>> Subject: Re: [Tech1] One for a technical type. >>> >>> >>> >>> Since no-one on here has an explanation, I've e-mailed Arqiva. Since it >>> is their mux I'm having the problems with. Whatever happened to the IBA? >>> >>> -- >>> Tech1 mailing list >>> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk >>> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk >>> -- >>> Tech1 mailing list >>> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk >>> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk > > -- > Tech1 mailing list > Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk From plowmandave44 at gmail.com Fri Mar 3 17:41:31 2023 From: plowmandave44 at gmail.com (Dave Plowman) Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2023 23:41:31 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] One for a technical type. In-Reply-To: References: <029C6254-86DF-421C-B3FC-8DE0A177D660@me.com> Message-ID: <16dfcf2a-6c6d-85b7-2d60-663d543ba3a9@gmail.com> Don't think so, Nick. No other FreeView device in the house has problems. Aerial is a low gain log beam. And IIRC the DA is likely to be the first thing to overload, going back to analogue days when symptoms were easier to see. And these particular Sony tuners were regarded as state of the art in their day. On 03/03/2023 19:46, Nick Ware via Tech1 wrote: > Could it be signal strength overload? An RF attenuator might help matters. There?s a well known saying amongst musicians in the Ecclesiastical fraternity, levelled against senior Clergy, that: ?The closer you are to the antenna, the worse the reception is.? > Has to be based on some truth! > Nick. > Nick Ware - Sent from my iPad > From paul at pgtmedia.co.uk Sat Mar 4 09:46:37 2023 From: paul at pgtmedia.co.uk (Paul Thackray) Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2023 15:46:37 -0000 Subject: [Tech1] One for a technical type. In-Reply-To: <16dfcf2a-6c6d-85b7-2d60-663d543ba3a9@gmail.com> References: <029C6254-86DF-421C-B3FC-8DE0A177D660@me.com> <16dfcf2a-6c6d-85b7-2d60-663d543ba3a9@gmail.com> Message-ID: <01c601d94eb0$817c06e0$847414a0$@pgtmedia.co.uk> Hi Dave, My guess is that as your receiver is 20 plus years old, it was not designed to cope with the amount of data now caried on Arq. Mux. A . Do you have the same issue with ARQ B radio stations (like Smooth Radio on 718 or Magic on 715)? Unfortunately early boxes had limited amounts of memory as no one envisaged the amount now used would be needed ( and it saved a few pence per box). In some cases the error handling was poor (When things are full do you continue over writing things or do you stop when it's all full....?) I had a similar problem (Not quite the same issue) where I had a smart TV where the memory allocated to the EPG was not massive. Each Multiplex needs to carry data of what's on all the Multiplexes on a particular Mast (Your TV or box can only receive one MPX at a time, but needs to show you what's on all the ones you can receive). When Com 7 & 8 were launched as National Single Frequency Multiplexes , suddenly the amount of data needed was massively increased. My (Panasonic) TV could not cope and quite simply over wrote bits of memory allocated to other things.. crashing the TV and making it un useable. Panasonic said five years old , no fixes coming... Had to buy a new TV. Now (Temporary) Com 7 & 8 have been closed down to make room for 5G the set would probably work. Sadly suspect Arquiva will say it?s a problem with the box and Sony will say its out of support. Hopefully someone can point to a box the can cope.... Sorry I can not help more... Paul Paul Thackray PGT Media Consulting Ltd. 07802 243979 Mail; paul at pgtmedia.co.uk Web; http://www.pgtmedia.co.uk Linkedin; http://uk.linkedin.com/pub/paul-thackray/19/379/746 IMDB; http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1488554/ -----Original Message----- From: Tech1 On Behalf Of Dave Plowman via Tech1 Sent: 03 March 2023 23:42 To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk Subject: Re: [Tech1] One for a technical type. Don't think so, Nick. No other FreeView device in the house has problems. Aerial is a low gain log beam. And IIRC the DA is likely to be the first thing to overload, going back to analogue days when symptoms were easier to see. And these particular Sony tuners were regarded as state of the art in their day. On 03/03/2023 19:46, Nick Ware via Tech1 wrote: > Could it be signal strength overload? An RF attenuator might help matters. There?s a well known saying amongst musicians in the Ecclesiastical fraternity, levelled against senior Clergy, that: ?The closer you are to the antenna, the worse the reception is.? > Has to be based on some truth! > Nick. > Nick Ware - Sent from my iPad > -- Tech1 mailing list Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk From bernie833 at gmail.com Mon Mar 6 07:38:06 2023 From: bernie833 at gmail.com (Bernard Newnham) Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2023 13:38:06 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Fwd: Geoff In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6004799b-0b4a-4e9b-e84b-3d4666754d79@gmail.com> -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: Geoff Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2023 11:38:39 +0000 From: Garth Tucker To: Bernard Newnham Hi Bernie, Yesterday I emailed tech1 to let everyone know Geoff Feld has died but as no one has acknowledged this I am left wondering if my email was actually posted on the Tech Ops site. 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My condolences to family and friends. On 06/03/2023 13:38, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 wrote: > > > > -------- Forwarded Message -------- > Subject: Geoff > Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2023 11:38:39 +0000 > From: Garth Tucker > To: Bernard Newnham > > > > Hi Bernie, > > Yesterday I emailed tech1 to let everyone know Geoff Feld has died but > as no one has acknowledged this I am left wondering if my email was > actually posted on the Tech Ops site. > > Garth > From ian.norman at armoor.co.uk Mon Mar 6 07:50:27 2023 From: ian.norman at armoor.co.uk (Ian Norman) Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2023 13:50:27 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Fwd: Geoff In-Reply-To: <6004799b-0b4a-4e9b-e84b-3d4666754d79@gmail.com> References: <6004799b-0b4a-4e9b-e84b-3d4666754d79@gmail.com> Message-ID: Dear Garth, Sorry to learn of Geoff's passing, as a trainee, he was my senior cameraman and later when I resigned in 1983. I didn't receive you email yesterday. Sad news! Stay safe Ian Norman Email: mailto:ian.norman at armoor.co.uk Telephone: 01643 888181 On 06/03/2023 13:38, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 wrote: > > > > -------- Forwarded Message -------- > Subject: Geoff > Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2023 11:38:39 +0000 > From: Garth Tucker > To: Bernard Newnham > > > > Hi Bernie, > > Yesterday I emailed tech1 to let everyone know Geoff Feld has died but > as no one has acknowledged this I am left wondering if my email was > actually posted on the Tech Ops site. > > Garth > From graeme.wall at icloud.com Mon Mar 6 08:29:12 2023 From: graeme.wall at icloud.com (Graeme Wall) Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2023 14:29:12 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Geoff In-Reply-To: <6004799b-0b4a-4e9b-e84b-3d4666754d79@gmail.com> References: <6004799b-0b4a-4e9b-e84b-3d4666754d79@gmail.com> Message-ID: Sorry to hear that, I thoroughly enjoyed my time working with him and Frank on Crew 2. > On 6 Mar 2023, at 13:38, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 wrote: > > > > > -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: Geoff Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2023 11:38:39 +0000 From: Garth Tucker To: Bernard Newnham > > Hi Bernie, > > Yesterday I emailed tech1 to let everyone know Geoff Feld has died but as no one has acknowledged this I am left wondering if my email was actually posted on the Tech Ops site. > > Garth > -- > Tech1 mailing list > Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk ? Graeme Wall From geoff.hawkes134 at gmail.com Mon Mar 6 08:36:02 2023 From: geoff.hawkes134 at gmail.com (Geoffrey Hawkes) Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2023 14:36:02 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Fwd: Geoff Feld In-Reply-To: <46C62070-933F-40D3-A95B-A18A637FC1A0@mac.com> References: <46C62070-933F-40D3-A95B-A18A637FC1A0@mac.com> Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tuckergarth at mac.com Mon Mar 6 08:50:11 2023 From: tuckergarth at mac.com (Garth Tucker) Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2023 14:50:11 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Geoff Feld Message-ID: As mis-management on my part may have sent it astray here is my original email re. Geoff. Garth Carole Feld has just told me that Geoff died this morning after a long illness. There are many of us who worked alongside Geoff who have reasons to be extremely grateful to him, both as a colleague and as Chairman the Tech. Ops. branch of the ABS. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Nick Ware - Sent from my iPad > On 6 Mar 2023, at 14:30, Graeme Wall via Tech1 wrote: > > ?Sorry to hear that, I thoroughly enjoyed my time working with him and Frank on Crew 2. > >> On 6 Mar 2023, at 13:38, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 wrote: >> >> >> >> >> -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: Geoff Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2023 11:38:39 +0000 From: Garth Tucker To: Bernard Newnham >> >> Hi Bernie, >> >> Yesterday I emailed tech1 to let everyone know Geoff Feld has died but as no one has acknowledged this I am left wondering if my email was actually posted on the Tech Ops site. >> >> Garth >> -- >> Tech1 mailing list >> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk >> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk > > ? > Graeme Wall > > > > -- > Tech1 mailing list > Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk From dnewbitt at fireflyuk.net Mon Mar 6 09:17:59 2023 From: dnewbitt at fireflyuk.net (David Newbitt) Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2023 15:17:59 -0000 Subject: [Tech1] Fwd: Geoff Feld In-Reply-To: References: <46C62070-933F-40D3-A95B-A18A637FC1A0@mac.com> Message-ID: <569F16A0D98C4513B85F20C791697952@DESKTOP6GGCRV1> Sadly it passed me by as well. How very sad ? hugely likeable, irrepressible character. This photo with Chick Anthony which is probably already on the site somewhere absolutely captures him in my opinion. So we are now without both of them and the poorer for it. Dave Newbitt. From: Geoffrey Hawkes via Tech1 Sent: Monday, March 6, 2023 2:36 PM To: Garth Tucker Cc: Tech Ops Subject: Re: [Tech1] Fwd: Geoff Feld Me neither, but thanks for letting us know now, Geoff Hawkes On 6 Mar 2023, at 13:41, Mike Giles via Tech1 wrote: ? I certainly didn?t receive this sad news first time around. Had he been unwell? Mike G On 6 Mar 2023, at 13:38, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 wrote: ? -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: Geoff Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2023 11:38:39 +0000 From: Garth Tucker mailto:tuckergarth at icloud.com To: Bernard Newnham mailto:bernie833 at gmail.com Hi Bernie, Yesterday I emailed tech1 to let everyone know Geoff Feld has died but as no one has acknowledged this I am left wondering if my email was actually posted on the Tech Ops site. Garth -- Tech1 mailing list Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk -- Tech1 mailing list Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Tech1 mailing list Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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So we are now without both of them and the poorer for it. > Dave Newbitt. > *From:* Geoffrey Hawkes via Tech1 > *Sent:* Monday, March 6, 2023 2:36 PM > *To:* Garth Tucker > *Cc:* Tech Ops > *Subject:* Re: [Tech1] Fwd: Geoff Feld > Me neither, but thanks for letting us know now, > Geoff Hawkes > >> On 6 Mar 2023, at 13:41, Mike Giles via Tech1 >> wrote: >> >> ? >> I certainly didn?t receive this sad news first time around. Had he >> been unwell? >> Mike G >> >>> On 6 Mar 2023, at 13:38, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 >>> wrote: >>> >>> ? >>> >>> >>> -------- Forwarded Message -------- >>> Subject: Geoff >>> Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2023 11:38:39 +0000 >>> From: Garth Tucker mailto:tuckergarth at icloud.com >>> To: Bernard Newnham mailto:bernie833 at gmail.com >>> >>> >>> >>> Hi Bernie, >>> >>> Yesterday I emailed tech1 to let everyone know Geoff Feld has died >>> but as no one has acknowledged this I am left wondering if my email >>> was actually posted on the Tech Ops site. >>> >>> Garth >>> -- >>> Tech1 mailing list >>> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk >>> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Stay safe Ian Norman Email: mailto:ian.norman at armoor.co.uk Telephone: 01643 888181 On 06/03/2023 13:38, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 wrote: > > > > -------- Forwarded Message -------- > Subject: Geoff > Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2023 11:38:39 +0000 > From: Garth Tucker > To: Bernard Newnham > > > > Hi Bernie, > > Yesterday I emailed tech1 to let everyone know Geoff Feld has died but > as no one has acknowledged this I am left wondering if my email was > actually posted on the Tech Ops site. > > Garth > From geoffletch at gmail.com Mon Mar 6 13:56:55 2023 From: geoffletch at gmail.com (Geoff Fletcher) Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2023 19:56:55 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Fwd: Geoff In-Reply-To: References: <6004799b-0b4a-4e9b-e84b-3d4666754d79@gmail.com> Message-ID: News of Geoff?s demise reached me via BBC Alumni on Facebook. Truly sorry to hear of his passing. I knew him well at TC etc. in the 1960s and was involved with him in ACS campaigns . A good chap in all respects. RIP old friend and sincere condolences to his family. On Mon, 6 Mar 2023 at 18:37, Ian Norman via Tech1 wrote: > Dear Garth, > > Sorry to learn of Geoff's passing, as a trainee, he was my senior > cameraman and later when I resigned in 1983. > > I didn't receive you email yesterday. > > Sad news! > > > Stay safe > > Ian Norman > > Email: mailto:ian.norman at armoor.co.uk > Telephone: 01643 888181 > > On 06/03/2023 13:38, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 wrote: > > > > > > > > -------- Forwarded Message -------- > > Subject: Geoff > > Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2023 11:38:39 +0000 > > From: Garth Tucker > > To: Bernard Newnham > > > > > > > > Hi Bernie, > > > > Yesterday I emailed tech1 to let everyone know Geoff Feld has died but > > as no one has acknowledged this I am left wondering if my email was > > actually posted on the Tech Ops site. > > > > Garth > > > > -- > Tech1 mailing list > Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On 06/03/2023 20:37, Peter Neill via Tech1 wrote: > > > > > >> On 6 Mar 2023, at 20:33, Geoffrey Hawkes via Tech1 >> > wrote: >> >> This message came unidentified so please can writers remember to >> include their name at the end, >> Geoff Hawkes >> > > Seconded. > > Virtually every e-mail from the group arrives from Tech Ops List. > > I thought I was alone, but obviously not. > > Peter Neill > > From geoff.hawkes134 at gmail.com Mon Mar 6 18:04:28 2023 From: geoff.hawkes134 at gmail.com (Geoffrey Hawkes) Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2023 00:04:28 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Fwd: Geoff In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: ?and you are? Again no name at the foot of the message or in the From box. Geoff Hawkes > On 6 Mar 2023, at 23:49, Dave Plowman via Tech1 wrote: > > ?Yet again, my reply to this subject seems to have been lost. No idea if the system uses filters of some sort. But I'm on my third email address just for this group. > > But. The important thing is how sad I was to hear of Geoff's death. On of the good guys. > > On 06/03/2023 20:37, Peter Neill via Tech1 wrote: >>>> On 6 Mar 2023, at 20:33, Geoffrey Hawkes via Tech1 > wrote: >>> >>> This message came unidentified so please can writers remember to include their name at the end, >>> Geoff Hawkes >>> >> Seconded. >> Virtually every e-mail from the group arrives from Tech Ops List. >> I thought I was alone, but obviously not. >> Peter Neill > > -- > Tech1 mailing list > Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk From plowmandave44 at gmail.com Mon Mar 6 18:07:38 2023 From: plowmandave44 at gmail.com (Dave Plowman) Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2023 00:07:38 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Fwd: Geoff In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6ab43cf5-f2d4-9d63-b98c-2c5d70f70c92@gmail.com> Here you go, Geoff. Tells you who you are too. On 07/03/2023 00:04, Geoffrey Hawkes wrote: > ?and you are? Again no name at the foot of the message or in the From box. > > Geoff Hawkes > >> On 6 Mar 2023, at 23:49, Dave Plowman via Tech1 wrote: >> >> ?Yet again, my reply to this subject seems to have been lost. No idea if the system uses filters of some sort. But I'm on my third email address just for this group. >> >> But. The important thing is how sad I was to hear of Geoff's death. On of the good guys. >> >> On 06/03/2023 20:37, Peter Neill via Tech1 wrote: >>>>> On 6 Mar 2023, at 20:33, Geoffrey Hawkes via Tech1 > wrote: >>>> >>>> This message came unidentified so please can writers remember to include their name at the end, >>>> Geoff Hawkes >>>> >>> Seconded. >>> Virtually every e-mail from the group arrives from Tech Ops List. >>> I thought I was alone, but obviously not. >>> Peter Neill >> >> -- >> Tech1 mailing list >> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk >> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk From plowmandave44 at gmail.com Mon Mar 6 18:13:51 2023 From: plowmandave44 at gmail.com (Dave Plowman) Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2023 00:13:51 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Identification Message-ID: <93a40f83-d0bc-e84e-7446-492265b9e52d@gmail.com> Perhaps we need to go back to the old way of adding a 'sig' to each post? -- Dave Plowman London, SW From geoffletch at gmail.com Tue Mar 7 02:24:59 2023 From: geoffletch at gmail.com (Geoff Fletcher) Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2023 08:24:59 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Fwd: Geoff In-Reply-To: <6ab43cf5-f2d4-9d63-b98c-2c5d70f70c92@gmail.com> References: <6ab43cf5-f2d4-9d63-b98c-2c5d70f70c92@gmail.com> Message-ID: It was me who wrote the message re Geoff Feld?s death which began ?News of Geoff?s demise?.. ?. For once, I forgot to add my name on the bottom. On my g.mail messages received it always states the name of the sender at the top as in From Bill Bloggs. Does this not happen on your messages received Geoff Hawkes and others? Anyway - as I said, Geoff Feld?s passing is very sad news indeed. Geoff Fletcher On Tue, 7 Mar 2023 at 00:08, Dave Plowman via Tech1 wrote: > Here you go, Geoff. Tells you who you are too. > > On 07/03/2023 00:04, Geoffrey Hawkes wrote: > > ?and you are? Again no name at the foot of the message or in the From > box. > > > > Geoff Hawkes > > > >> On 6 Mar 2023, at 23:49, Dave Plowman via Tech1 > wrote: > >> > >> ?Yet again, my reply to this subject seems to have been lost. No idea > if the system uses filters of some sort. But I'm on my third email address > just for this group. > >> > >> But. The important thing is how sad I was to hear of Geoff's death. On > of the good guys. > >> > >> On 06/03/2023 20:37, Peter Neill via Tech1 wrote: > >>>>> On 6 Mar 2023, at 20:33, Geoffrey Hawkes via Tech1 < > tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > wrote: > >>>> > >>>> This message came unidentified so please can writers remember to > include their name at the end, > >>>> Geoff Hawkes > >>>> > >>> Seconded. > >>> Virtually every e-mail from the group arrives from Tech Ops List. > >>> I thought I was alone, but obviously not. > >>> Peter Neill > >> > >> -- > >> Tech1 mailing list > >> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > >> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk > > -- > Tech1 mailing list > Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Name: image0.png Type: image/png Size: 390168 bytes Desc: not available URL: From hughsheppard at btinternet.com Tue Mar 7 03:34:23 2023 From: hughsheppard at btinternet.com (Hugh Sheppard) Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2023 09:34:23 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Fwd: Geoff In-Reply-To: <6ab43cf5-f2d4-9d63-b98c-2c5d70f70c92@gmail.com> References: <6ab43cf5-f2d4-9d63-b98c-2c5d70f70c92@gmail.com> Message-ID: Dear all who remember Geoff Feld, He was my first real friend in Tech-Ops, a bond formed when sharing an Evesham room with him in the winter of 1958-9 on Tech-Ops Course No.3 (as I recall).? His sense of fun permeated those weeks when the weather challenged most journeys to and fro' and, but for the intervention of instructor Harry Henderson, we would both have been thrown out for a jolly jape at the expense of the austere Head of Training, one Dr. Sturley.? That penalty was no joke; it used to happen. Thank you Bernie for the History site and the memories recalled at: http://tech-ops.co.uk/next/to-training-at-wood-norton-hall-evesham/ I see there that discretion ruled on naming my partner in an Evesham crime, but it was Geoff. I'm not sure who might pass on every blessing to his family; please say if you're in a position to do that. Happy Days of long ago... Hugh Sheppard On 07/03/2023 00:07, Dave Plowman via Tech1 wrote: > Here you go, Geoff. Tells you who you are too. > > On 07/03/2023 00:04, Geoffrey Hawkes wrote: >> ?and you are? Again no name at the foot of the message or in the From >> box. >> >> Geoff Hawkes >> >>> On 6 Mar 2023, at 23:49, Dave Plowman via Tech1 >>> wrote: >>> >>> ?Yet again, my reply to this subject seems to have been lost. No >>> idea if the system uses filters of some sort. But I'm on my third >>> email address just for this group. >>> >>> But. 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Mike G > On 7 Mar 2023, at 08:43, Peter Neill via Tech1 wrote: > > > > > > This is how it appears on my phone > > Computer is similar > > Peter Neill > > Sent from my iPhone. Apologies for typos and autocorruptions. > -- > Tech1 mailing list > Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk From doug at puddifoot.me Tue Mar 7 03:48:10 2023 From: doug at puddifoot.me (Doug Puddifoot) Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2023 09:48:10 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] (no subject) Message-ID: On 7 March 2023, at 00:04, Geoffrey Hawkes via Tech1 wrote: ?and you are? Again no name at the foot of the message or in the From box. Geoff Hawkes > On 6 Mar 2023, at 23:49, Dave Plowman via Tech1 wrote: > > ?Yet again, my reply to this subject seems to have been lost. No idea if the system uses filters of some sort. But I'm on my third email address just for this group. > > But. The important thing is how sad I was to hear of Geoff's death. On of the good guys. > > On 06/03/2023 20:37, Peter Neill via Tech1 wrote: >>>> On 6 Mar 2023, at 20:33, Geoffrey Hawkes via Tech1 > wrote: >>> >>> This message came unidentified so please can writers remember to include their name at the end, >>> Geoff Hawkes >>> >> Seconded. >> Virtually every e-mail from the group arrives from Tech Ops List. >> I thought I was alone, but obviously not. >> Peter Neill > > -- > Tech1 mailing list > Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk -- Tech1 mailing list Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk From doug at puddifoot.me Tue Mar 7 03:54:07 2023 From: doug at puddifoot.me (Doug Puddifoot) Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2023 09:54:07 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Fwd: Geoff Message-ID: I have always assumed that all email programs always announced who the email was from as mine does. See the attached screen grab. Also if I hit the reply button it inserts the full email address of the sender. In future I will add my full name. Doug Puddifoot On 7 March 2023, at 00:04, Geoffrey Hawkes via Tech1 wrote: ?and you are? Again no name at the foot of the message or in the From box. Geoff Hawkes > On 6 Mar 2023, at 23:49, Dave Plowman via Tech1 wrote: > > ?Yet again, my reply to this subject seems to have been lost. No idea if the system uses filters of some sort. But I'm on my third email address just for this group. > > But. The important thing is how sad I was to hear of Geoff's death. 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The key thing I feel, dear grannies is that when sending messages, either original or replies, it?s important to put our names in the foot or body, preferably surname as well, particularly when there?s more than one of us with the same forename or if you?re an infrequent poster, Geoff Hawkes > On 7 Mar 2023, at 09:39, Mike Giles via Tech1 wrote: > > ?Lest there be doubt, it is indeed the case that for some of us lower mortals the name of the sender does not appear in the header, thus: > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Apologies for typos and autocorruptions. >> -- >> Tech1 mailing list >> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk >> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk > > -- > Tech1 mailing list > Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk From barrybonner119 at btinternet.com Tue Mar 7 09:59:00 2023 From: barrybonner119 at btinternet.com (Barry Bonner) Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2023 15:59:00 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Geoff Feld In-Reply-To: <569F16A0D98C4513B85F20C791697952@DESKTOP6GGCRV1> References: <46C62070-933F-40D3-A95B-A18A637FC1A0@mac.com> <569F16A0D98C4513B85F20C791697952@DESKTOP6GGCRV1> Message-ID: Hi All, Very sad news indeed. Geoff was a great and highly skilled character, always smiling, and a pleasure to work with. I worked a lot with Geoff on various dramas over the years including the famous trip to Israel on ?A Dinner of Herbs? directed by Michael Darlow. See below?. Barry. On 6 Mar 2023, at 15:17, David Newbitt via Tech1 wrote: > Sadly it passed me by as well. How very sad ? hugely likeable, irrepressible character. This photo with Chick Anthony which is probably already on the site somewhere absolutely captures him in my opinion. So we are now without both of them and the poorer for it. > > > > Dave Newbitt. > > From: Geoffrey Hawkes via Tech1 > Sent: Monday, March 6, 2023 2:36 PM > To: Garth Tucker > Cc: Tech Ops > Subject: Re: [Tech1] Fwd: Geoff Feld > > Me neither, but thanks for letting us know now, > Geoff Hawkes > >> On 6 Mar 2023, at 13:41, Mike Giles via Tech1 wrote: >> >> ? >> I certainly didn?t receive this sad news first time around. Had he been unwell? >> >> Mike G >> >>> On 6 Mar 2023, at 13:38, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 wrote: >>> >>> ? >>> >>> >>> -------- Forwarded Message -------- >>> Subject: Geoff >>> Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2023 11:38:39 +0000 >>> From: Garth Tucker mailto:tuckergarth at icloud.com >>> To: Bernard Newnham mailto:bernie833 at gmail.com >>> >>> >>> Hi Bernie, >>> >>> Yesterday I emailed tech1 to let everyone know Geoff Feld has died but as no one has acknowledged this I am left wondering if my email was actually posted on the Tech Ops site. >>> >>> Garth >>> -- >>> Tech1 mailing list >>> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk >>> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk >> -- >> Tech1 mailing list >> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk >> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk > > -- > Tech1 mailing list > Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk > -- > Tech1 mailing list > Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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We were given an ancient BBC Land Rover which had been sold to a hill farmer, then reclaimed after non-payment of the purchase price. It was full of straw and there was a bird's nest under the wheel arch! And it later transpired that the chassis had been cracked, which explained odd quirks in its handling on occasions! We were given three months to put the gear through its paces and demonstrate that such a unit was a viable concept. It was an absolutely unique undertaking in terms of normal TVC activity and we bonded as a highly cohesive team, each of us turning our hands to tasks well outside our normal remit. Geoff and Peter were inspired in creating opportunities to test the system to its logical limit, and then a bit beyond! Due to ?industrial relations difficulties?, that unit never got anything on air, though there were producers interested in using it, but it formed a good basis of experience for the creation of the units used on the Eastenders lot. Mike G > On 7 Mar 2023, at 16:45, Peter Hider via Tech1 wrote: > > Dear All > > I was very fond of Geoff. He and I had worked together on and off many times over the years and it is difficult to believe that he has left us. > > He was exceedingly funny and very observant. We were doing the dress rehearsal for a 'Black and White Minstrels' show which entailed the dancers having a quick change tent on the studio floor. All the costumes were on a rail in order and they just grabbed, changed and came out straight into another number. On this occasion, as they high kicked through the dance, one of them had a severely embarrassing 'costume malfunction' caused by wearing another girl's costume. Geoff had his mole swinger take him across to the girl at the next break and as she remedied the malfunction he asked 'How come the largest girl gets the smallest costume?' > > He was passionate when it came to union matters and I'm certain that we owed him a huge debt of gratitude for his and others' work in getting us a pay rise as a result of the strike. > > His nickname for me was Chuckles and I shall miss him greatly as will all who enjoyed his company. > > Garth, could you please pass on my condolences to Carol. > > Peter Hider > Ex Crews 2,5,7,9. > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2023 at 9:34 AM > From: "Hugh Sheppard via Tech1" > To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > Cc: "Dave Plowman" , "Bernard Newnham" > Subject: Re: [Tech1] Fwd: Geoff > Dear all who remember Geoff Feld, > > He was my first real friend in Tech-Ops, a bond formed when sharing an Evesham room with him in the winter of 1958-9 on Tech-Ops Course No.3 (as I recall). His sense of fun permeated those weeks when the weather challenged most journeys to and fro' and, but for the intervention of instructor Harry Henderson, we would both have been thrown out for a jolly jape at the expense of the austere Head of Training, one Dr. Sturley. That penalty was no joke; it used to happen. > > Thank you Bernie for the History site and the memories recalled at: http://tech-ops.co.uk/next/to-training-at-wood-norton-hall-evesham/ > > I see there that discretion ruled on naming my partner in an Evesham crime, but it was Geoff. > > I'm not sure who might pass on every blessing to his family; please say if you're in a position to do that. > > Happy Days of long ago... > > Hugh Sheppard > > > On 07/03/2023 00:07, Dave Plowman via Tech1 wrote: > Here you go, Geoff. Tells you who you are too. > > On 07/03/2023 00:04, Geoffrey Hawkes wrote: > ?and you are? Again no name at the foot of the message or in the From box. > > Geoff Hawkes > > On 6 Mar 2023, at 23:49, Dave Plowman via Tech1 wrote: > > ?Yet again, my reply to this subject seems to have been lost. No idea if the system uses filters of some sort. But I'm on my third email address just for this group. > > But. The important thing is how sad I was to hear of Geoff's death. On of the good guys. > > On 06/03/2023 20:37, Peter Neill via Tech1 wrote: > On 6 Mar 2023, at 20:33, Geoffrey Hawkes via Tech1 > wrote: > > This message came unidentified so please can writers remember to include their name at the end, > Geoff Hawkes > > Seconded. > Virtually every e-mail from the group arrives from Tech Ops List. > I thought I was alone, but obviously not. > Peter Neill > > -- > Tech1 mailing list > Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk > -- Tech1 mailing list Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk > -- > Tech1 mailing list > Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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And it > later transpired that the chassis had been cracked, which explained odd > quirks in its handling on occasions! > > We were given three months to put the gear through its paces and > demonstrate that such a unit was a viable concept. It was an absolutely > unique undertaking in terms of normal TVC activity and we bonded as a > highly cohesive team, each of us turning our hands to tasks well outside > our normal remit. Geoff and Peter were inspired in creating opportunities > to test the system to its logical limit, and then a bit beyond! Due to > ?industrial relations difficulties?, that unit never got anything on air, > though there were producers interested in using it, but it formed a good > basis of experience for the creation of the units used on the Eastenders > lot. > > Mike G > > > > On 7 Mar 2023, at 16:45, Peter Hider via Tech1 > wrote: > > Dear All > > I was very fond of Geoff. He and I had worked together on and off many > times over the years and it is difficult to believe that he has left us. > > He was exceedingly funny and very observant. We were doing the dress > rehearsal for a 'Black and White Minstrels' show which entailed the dancers > having a quick change tent on the studio floor. All the costumes were on a > rail in order and they just grabbed, changed and came out straight into > another number. On this occasion, as they high kicked through the dance, > one of them had a severely embarrassing 'costume malfunction' caused by > wearing another girl's costume. Geoff had his mole swinger take him across > to the girl at the next break and as she remedied the malfunction he > asked 'How come the largest girl gets the smallest costume?' > > He was passionate when it came to union matters and I'm certain that we > owed him a huge debt of gratitude for his and others' work in getting us a > pay rise as a result of the strike. > > His nickname for me was Chuckles and I shall miss him greatly as will all > who enjoyed his company. > > Garth, could you please pass on my condolences to Carol. > > Peter Hider > Ex Crews 2,5,7,9. > > > *Sent:* Tuesday, March 07, 2023 at 9:34 AM > *From:* "Hugh Sheppard via Tech1" > *To:* tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > *Cc:* "Dave Plowman" , "Bernard Newnham" < > bernie833 at gmail.com> > *Subject:* Re: [Tech1] Fwd: Geoff > > Dear all who remember Geoff Feld, > > He was my first real friend in Tech-Ops, a bond formed when sharing an > Evesham room with him in the winter of 1958-9 on Tech-Ops Course No.3 (as I > recall). His sense of fun permeated those weeks when the weather > challenged most journeys to and fro' and, but for the intervention of > instructor Harry Henderson, we would both have been thrown out for a jolly > jape at the expense of the austere Head of Training, one Dr. Sturley. That > penalty was no joke; it used to happen. > > Thank you Bernie for the History site and the memories recalled at: > http://tech-ops.co.uk/next/to-training-at-wood-norton-hall-evesham/ > > I see there that discretion ruled on naming my partner in an Evesham > crime, but it was Geoff. > > I'm not sure who might pass on every blessing to his family; please say if > you're in a position to do that. > > Happy Days of long ago... > > Hugh Sheppard > > On 07/03/2023 00:07, Dave Plowman via Tech1 wrote: > > Here you go, Geoff. Tells you who you are too. > > On 07/03/2023 00:04, Geoffrey Hawkes wrote: > > ?and you are? Again no name at the foot of the message or in the >From box. > > Geoff Hawkes > > > On 6 Mar 2023, at 23:49, Dave Plowman via Tech1 > wrote: > > ?Yet again, my reply to this subject seems to have been lost. No idea if > the system uses filters of some sort. But I'm on my third email address > just for this group. > > But. The important thing is how sad I was to hear of Geoff's death. On of > the good guys. > > On 06/03/2023 20:37, Peter Neill via Tech1 wrote: > > On 6 Mar 2023, at 20:33, Geoffrey Hawkes via Tech1 > wrote: > > > This message came unidentified so please can writers remember to include > their name at the end, > Geoff Hawkes > > > Seconded. > Virtually every e-mail from the group arrives from Tech Ops List. > I thought I was alone, but obviously not. > Peter Neill > > > -- > Tech1 mailing list > Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk > > -- Tech1 mailing list Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk > -- > Tech1 mailing list > Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk > > > -- > Tech1 mailing list > Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From geoffletch at gmail.com Wed Mar 8 03:17:23 2023 From: geoffletch at gmail.com (Geoff Fletcher) Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2023 09:17:23 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Geoff Feld In-Reply-To: References: <6ab43cf5-f2d4-9d63-b98c-2c5d70f70c92@gmail.com> Message-ID: <3270DE16-EBB6-4214-84CD-D10CC627A1FA@gmail.com> Here is Geoff featured in the ABS Bulletin for October1969 which covered the great strike on October 11 (bottom right). I was involved with creating TV5 with Geoff and Pete Ware and several other prime movers. Incidentally, that?s me second placard holder from the left in the second photo down left side. I find it hard to believe Geoff has gone. Much missed by all who knew him. Geoff Fletcher > On 7 Mar 2023, at 19:17, Tony Scott via Tech1 wrote: > > Geoff was on the TV5 Committee. > > RIP Geoff > > On Tue, 7 Mar 2023, 18:15 Mike Giles via Tech1, > wrote: > Geoff was one of the Senior Cameramen assigned to the experimental single camera unit, back in the 1980?s ~ Hibou will no doubt give us a precise date. The other was Peter Ware, also sadly departed. John Howell and I were on sound, with Ron Koplick as Herr Grippenfuhrer, Peter Smee and Warwick Fielding lighting/EMs, Eddie Dunlop and John Humphries as engineers. We were given an ancient BBC Land Rover which had been sold to a hill farmer, then reclaimed after non-payment of the purchase price. It was full of straw and there was a bird's nest under the wheel arch! And it later transpired that the chassis had been cracked, which explained odd quirks in its handling on occasions! > > We were given three months to put the gear through its paces and demonstrate that such a unit was a viable concept. It was an absolutely unique undertaking in terms of normal TVC activity and we bonded as a highly cohesive team, each of us turning our hands to tasks well outside our normal remit. Geoff and Peter were inspired in creating opportunities to test the system to its logical limit, and then a bit beyond! Due to ?industrial relations difficulties?, that unit never got anything on air, though there were producers interested in using it, but it formed a good basis of experience for the creation of the units used on the Eastenders lot. > > Mike G > > > >> On 7 Mar 2023, at 16:45, Peter Hider via Tech1 > wrote: >> >> Dear All >> >> I was very fond of Geoff. He and I had worked together on and off many times over the years and it is difficult to believe that he has left us. >> >> He was exceedingly funny and very observant. We were doing the dress rehearsal for a 'Black and White Minstrels' show which entailed the dancers having a quick change tent on the studio floor. All the costumes were on a rail in order and they just grabbed, changed and came out straight into another number. On this occasion, as they high kicked through the dance, one of them had a severely embarrassing 'costume malfunction' caused by wearing another girl's costume. Geoff had his mole swinger take him across to the girl at the next break and as she remedied the malfunction he asked 'How come the largest girl gets the smallest costume?' >> >> He was passionate when it came to union matters and I'm certain that we owed him a huge debt of gratitude for his and others' work in getting us a pay rise as a result of the strike. >> >> His nickname for me was Chuckles and I shall miss him greatly as will all who enjoyed his company. >> >> Garth, could you please pass on my condolences to Carol. >> >> Peter Hider >> Ex Crews 2,5,7,9. >> >> >> Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2023 at 9:34 AM >> From: "Hugh Sheppard via Tech1" > >> To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk >> Cc: "Dave Plowman" >, "Bernard Newnham" > >> Subject: Re: [Tech1] Fwd: Geoff >> Dear all who remember Geoff Feld, >> >> He was my first real friend in Tech-Ops, a bond formed when sharing an Evesham room with him in the winter of 1958-9 on Tech-Ops Course No.3 (as I recall). His sense of fun permeated those weeks when the weather challenged most journeys to and fro' and, but for the intervention of instructor Harry Henderson, we would both have been thrown out for a jolly jape at the expense of the austere Head of Training, one Dr. Sturley. That penalty was no joke; it used to happen. >> >> Thank you Bernie for the History site and the memories recalled at: http://tech-ops.co.uk/next/to-training-at-wood-norton-hall-evesham/ >> >> I see there that discretion ruled on naming my partner in an Evesham crime, but it was Geoff. >> >> I'm not sure who might pass on every blessing to his family; please say if you're in a position to do that. >> >> Happy Days of long ago... >> >> Hugh Sheppard >> >> >> On 07/03/2023 00:07, Dave Plowman via Tech1 wrote: >> Here you go, Geoff. Tells you who you are too. >> >> On 07/03/2023 00:04, Geoffrey Hawkes wrote: >> ?and you are? Again no name at the foot of the message or in the From box. >> >> Geoff Hawkes >> >> On 6 Mar 2023, at 23:49, Dave Plowman via Tech1 wrote: >> >> ?Yet again, my reply to this subject seems to have been lost. No idea if the system uses filters of some sort. But I'm on my third email address just for this group. >> >> But. The important thing is how sad I was to hear of Geoff's death. On of the good guys. >> >> On 06/03/2023 20:37, Peter Neill via Tech1 wrote: >> On 6 Mar 2023, at 20:33, Geoffrey Hawkes via Tech1 > wrote: >> >> This message came unidentified so please can writers remember to include their name at the end, >> Geoff Hawkes >> >> Seconded. >> Virtually every e-mail from the group arrives from Tech Ops List. >> I thought I was alone, but obviously not. >> Peter Neill >> >> -- >> Tech1 mailing list >> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk >> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk -- Tech1 mailing list Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk -- >> Tech1 mailing list >> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk >> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk > > -- > Tech1 mailing list > Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk > -- > Tech1 mailing list > Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The other was Peter Ware, also sadly departed. John Howell and I were on sound, with Ron Koplick as Herr Grippenfuhrer, Peter Smee and Warwick Fielding lighting/EMs, Eddie Dunlop and John Humphries as engineers. We were given an ancient BBC Land Rover which had been sold to a hill farmer, then reclaimed after non-payment of the purchase price. It was full of straw and there was a bird's nest under the wheel arch! And it later transpired that the chassis had been cracked, which explained odd quirks in its handling on occasions! >> >> We were given three months to put the gear through its paces and demonstrate that such a unit was a viable concept. It was an absolutely unique undertaking in terms of normal TVC activity and we bonded as a highly cohesive team, each of us turning our hands to tasks well outside our normal remit. Geoff and Peter were inspired in creating opportunities to test the system to its logical limit, and then a bit beyond! Due to ?industrial relations difficulties?, that unit never got anything on air, though there were producers interested in using it, but it formed a good basis of experience for the creation of the units used on the Eastenders lot. >> >> Mike G >> >> >> >>> On 7 Mar 2023, at 16:45, Peter Hider via Tech1 wrote: >>> >>> Dear All >>> I was very fond of Geoff. He and I had worked together on and off many times over the years and it is difficult to believe that he has left us. >>> He was exceedingly funny and very observant. We were doing the dress rehearsal for a 'Black and White Minstrels' show which entailed the dancers having a quick change tent on the studio floor. All the costumes were on a rail in order and they just grabbed, changed and came out straight into another number. On this occasion, as they high kicked through the dance, one of them had a severely embarrassing 'costume malfunction' caused by wearing another girl's costume. Geoff had his mole swinger take him across to the girl at the next break and as she remedied the malfunction he asked 'How come the largest girl gets the smallest costume?' >>> He was passionate when it came to union matters and I'm certain that we owed him a huge debt of gratitude for his and others' work in getting us a pay rise as a result of the strike. >>> His nickname for me was Chuckles and I shall miss him greatly as will all who enjoyed his company. >>> Garth, could you please pass on my condolences to Carol. >>> Peter Hider >>> Ex Crews 2,5,7,9. >>> Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2023 at 9:34 AM >>> From: "Hugh Sheppard via Tech1" >>> To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk >>> Cc: "Dave Plowman" , "Bernard Newnham" >>> Subject: Re: [Tech1] Fwd: Geoff >>> Dear all who remember Geoff Feld, >>> He was my first real friend in Tech-Ops, a bond formed when sharing an Evesham room with him in the winter of 1958-9 on Tech-Ops Course No.3 (as I recall). His sense of fun permeated those weeks when the weather challenged most journeys to and fro' and, but for the intervention of instructor Harry Henderson, we would both have been thrown out for a jolly jape at the expense of the austere Head of Training, one Dr. Sturley. That penalty was no joke; it used to happen. >>> Thank you Bernie for the History site and the memories recalled at: http://tech-ops.co.uk/next/to-training-at-wood-norton-hall-evesham/ I see there that discretion ruled on naming my partner in an Evesham crime, but it was Geoff. >>> I'm not sure who might pass on every blessing to his family; please say if you're in a position to do that. >>> Happy Days of long ago... >>> Hugh Sheppard >>> On 07/03/2023 00:07, Dave Plowman via Tech1 wrote: >>> Here you go, Geoff. Tells you who you are too. >>> >>> On 07/03/2023 00:04, Geoffrey Hawkes wrote:?and you are? Again no name at the foot of the message or in the From box. >>> >>> Geoff Hawkes >>> On 6 Mar 2023, at 23:49, Dave Plowman via Tech1 wrote: >>> >>> ?Yet again, my reply to this subject seems to have been lost. No idea if the system uses filters of some sort. But I'm on my third email address just for this group. >>> >>> But. The important thing is how sad I was to hear of Geoff's death. On of the good guys. >>> >>> On 06/03/2023 20:37, Peter Neill via Tech1 wrote:On 6 Mar 2023, at 20:33, Geoffrey Hawkes via Tech1 > wrote: >>> This message came unidentified so please can writers remember to include their name at the end, >>> Geoff Hawkes >>> Seconded. >>> Virtually every e-mail from the group arrives from Tech Ops List. >>> I thought I was alone, but obviously not. >>> Peter Neill >>> -- >>> Tech1 mailing list >>> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk >>> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk-- Tech1 mailing list Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk >>> -- >>> Tech1 mailing list >>> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk >>> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk >> >> -- >> Tech1 mailing list >> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk >> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk >> -- >> Tech1 mailing list >> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk >> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk > > ? Graeme Wall From jpbarlow at btopenworld.com Wed Mar 8 04:05:41 2023 From: jpbarlow at btopenworld.com (John Barlow) Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2023 10:05:41 -0000 Subject: [Tech1] Geoff Feld Message-ID: <006701d951a5$8ac52590$a04f70b0$@btopenworld.com> I worked with Geoff as part of Crew 10 on the Barchester Chronicles and other productions too and his crew was always a happy place to be. A BAFTA award winning Cameraman he moved later into Production where he directed many, many shows. As a person he was a close friend of mine, "Best Man" when Laura and I were married and Godfather to my son, Edward. Sadly, I had not seen him for a few years but his is a great loss. Away from TV Geoff was a skilled carpenter and we fitted out my kitchen from scratch designing and building all the units and laminating the worktops too. Above all Geoff was kind, welcoming and always warm-hearted with an irresistible smile. He was, of course, a cat lover! Geoff was Chair of the ABS TV5 Branch for a number of years and led the negotiations that ensured all of us were "upgraded" (with pension implications to this day!) I remember too the TORSA (Technical Operations Revised Scheduling Arrangement) that introduced the "Pyramid Doil" and he successfully made the case for a claim under Equal Pay legislation making the General Secretary of the ABS (at the time) regret saying that "TV5 had taken advice from a conveyancing solicitor"! . Happy days! Condolences to all who loved him. JohnB -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From john at ecompton.plus.com Wed Mar 8 15:09:41 2023 From: john at ecompton.plus.com (John Adams) Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2023 21:09:41 -0000 Subject: [Tech1] Personal Test Message-ID: <002601d95202$4dc0e640$e942b2c0$@plus.com> No response required. John Adams -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From k.sam at tiscali.co.uk Thu Mar 9 06:28:38 2023 From: k.sam at tiscali.co.uk (Keith Salmon) Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2023 12:28:38 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Geoff Feld Message-ID: <088FF922-45B6-46FC-961B-70286FBE4B53@tiscali.co.uk> A lovely man, many happy memories working together. Geoff was a very good cameraman and his experience showed when he directed drama. RIP Geoff. From geoff.hawkes134 at gmail.com Thu Mar 9 08:45:34 2023 From: geoff.hawkes134 at gmail.com (Geoffrey Hawkes) Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2023 14:45:34 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Geoff Feld In-Reply-To: <088FF922-45B6-46FC-961B-70286FBE4B53@tiscali.co.uk> References: <088FF922-45B6-46FC-961B-70286FBE4B53@tiscali.co.uk> Message-ID: <24035EB3-790A-4273-8508-EB4194AA6626@gmail.com> Sorry to go on about it, but the message about Geoff Feld today came as far as I could see with no identification as to who had sent it. The only clue is that when I hit ?Reply All? it came up with the name Keith Salmon in the ?To? box (cc Tech-Ops). Please can everyone be sure to put their name at the foot of messages as you would when handwriting a letter or note, then we?ll know who?s speaking, Geoff Hawkes > On 9 Mar 2023, at 12:29, Keith Salmon via Tech1 wrote: > > ? > A lovely man, many happy memories working together. > Geoff was a very good cameraman and his experience showed when he directed drama. > RIP Geoff. > -- > Tech1 mailing list > Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk From pat.heigham at amps.net Thu Mar 9 08:55:17 2023 From: pat.heigham at amps.net (Pat Heigham) Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2023 14:55:17 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Geoff Feld In-Reply-To: References: <6ab43cf5-f2d4-9d63-b98c-2c5d70f70c92@gmail.com> Message-ID: <67364808-8085-7914-480c-6f2b9540a80c@amps.net> Dear All, Well, 'Chuckles', I remember that you referred to yourself as 'the less wider Hider'! As I posted earlier, Geoff was my first mentor on Crew 2, when I ventured for the very first time into Studio D Lime Grove. Unfailingly pleasant to a 'newbie' he taught me lots - 'figure-8 ing' a camera cable, I remember. But, I defected to Sound, and after eight years left for different pastures, so it was sad that one didn't tend to keep contact. But I did learn that _his_ nickname was 'Butterball'! Best Pat H On 07/03/2023 16:45, Peter Hider via Tech1 wrote: I was very fond of Geoff. He and?I had worked together on and off many times over the years and it is difficult to believe that he has left us. His nickname for me was Chuckles and I shall miss him greatly as will all who enjoyed his company. Peter Hider Ex Crews 2,5,7,9. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mibridge at mac.com Thu Mar 9 09:27:33 2023 From: mibridge at mac.com (Mike Giles) Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2023 15:27:33 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Geoff Feld In-Reply-To: <24035EB3-790A-4273-8508-EB4194AA6626@gmail.com> References: <24035EB3-790A-4273-8508-EB4194AA6626@gmail.com> Message-ID: <611C186C-6F02-4D15-AAE3-8B8F9FF679D2@mac.com> Do keep going on about it, Geoff! Mike G > On 9 Mar 2023, at 14:46, Geoffrey Hawkes via Tech1 wrote: > > ?Sorry to go on about it, but the message about Geoff Feld today came as far as I could see with no identification as to who had sent it. The only clue is that when I hit ?Reply All? it came up with the name Keith Salmon in the ?To? box (cc Tech-Ops). Please can everyone be sure to put their name at the foot of messages as you would when handwriting a letter or note, then we?ll know who?s speaking, > Geoff Hawkes > >> On 9 Mar 2023, at 12:29, Keith Salmon via Tech1 wrote: >> >> ? >> A lovely man, many happy memories working together. >> Geoff was a very good cameraman and his experience showed when he directed drama. >> RIP Geoff. >> -- >> Tech1 mailing list >> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk >> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk > > -- > Tech1 mailing list > Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk From alanaudio at me.com Thu Mar 9 10:54:22 2023 From: alanaudio at me.com (Alan Taylor) Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2023 16:54:22 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] signing emails - was Geoff Feld In-Reply-To: <611C186C-6F02-4D15-AAE3-8B8F9FF679D2@mac.com> References: <611C186C-6F02-4D15-AAE3-8B8F9FF679D2@mac.com> Message-ID: <251DBC2C-3536-4F49-9D2E-4E52F686DDE4@me.com> When compiling the emails for archiving, if the sender signs it in some meaningful or consistent way, I can be sure to correctly credit them when their words of wisdom are archived. If I have to try and work out who sent each one, which can be tricky in a long nested thread, it?s going to be much more prone to error. If you?ve got something to say, don?t be shy about saying who you are. Alan > On 9 Mar 2023, at 15:28, Mike Giles via Tech1 wrote: > > ?Do keep going on about it, Geoff! > > Mike G > >> On 9 Mar 2023, at 14:46, Geoffrey Hawkes via Tech1 wrote: >> >> ?Sorry to go on about it, but the message about Geoff Feld today came as far as I could see with no identification as to who had sent it. The only clue is that when I hit ?Reply All? it came up with the name Keith Salmon in the ?To? box (cc Tech-Ops). Please can everyone be sure to put their name at the foot of messages as you would when handwriting a letter or note, then we?ll know who?s speaking, >> Geoff Hawkes >> >>>> On 9 Mar 2023, at 12:29, Keith Salmon via Tech1 wrote: >>> >>> ? >>> A lovely man, many happy memories working together. >>> Geoff was a very good cameraman and his experience showed when he directed drama. >>> RIP Geoff. >>> -- >>> Tech1 mailing list >>> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk >>> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk >> >> -- >> Tech1 mailing list >> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk >> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk > > -- > Tech1 mailing list > Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk From techtone at protonmail.com Thu Mar 9 14:21:56 2023 From: techtone at protonmail.com (techtone) Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2023 20:21:56 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Signing your posts Message-ID: Forgive me for harping on regarding this topic raised by Geoff Hawkes, but I completely agree. Whilst it's possible to ferret around headers and other ejements of emails and come up with a sender's name (if your system is having a good day) it's a pain to jump through hoops yourself, especially if the email makes an intelligent point, and you'd like to agree, or add an even more intelligent response (as is my case!!) but would like to know who to before formulating a reply, as you may wish to tailor said reply to their known foibles.. So, please add your name at the end of each email you send to this list, for instance Roger Bunce always added his sent 'with luv'. making it easily recognisable, and you may notice that, as I've always had a reputation to maintain when it comes to drinking tea............ 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URL: From waresound at msn.com Thu Mar 9 15:59:47 2023 From: waresound at msn.com (Nick Ware) Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2023 21:59:47 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Signing your posts In-Reply-To: <822FD237-5E3E-4644-8B18-7072AC8E9811@me.com> References: <822FD237-5E3E-4644-8B18-7072AC8E9811@me.com> Message-ID: To add a signature automatically without having to remember to do it, in iOS, go to settings - mail - signature, and customise it as you want it, then tick ?all accounts?. In MS Outlook, click ?new email - scroll along top menu bar to ?signatures? icon - edit or create one, and save. Apple Mac - something similar, I daresay. Cheers, N. Nick Ware - sent from my iPad On 9 Mar 2023, at 20:58, Alan Taylor via Tech1 wrote: ? On a related topic, some people sign off emails with a nickname. When archiving emails I generally try to use people?s real name when crediting their contribution because the site is probably going to be read by people who don?t know the individuals in real life. Would anybody prefer to be credited using their nickname rather than their real name? Alan On 9 Mar 2023, at 20:22, techtone via Tech1 wrote: ? Forgive me for harping on regarding this topic raised by Geoff Hawkes, but I completely agree. Whilst it's possible to ferret around headers and other ejements of emails and come up with a sender's name (if your system is having a good day) it's a pain to jump through hoops yourself, especially if the email makes an intelligent point, and you'd like to agree, or add an even more intelligent response (as is my case!!) but would like to know who to before formulating a reply, as you may wish to tailor said reply to their known foibles.. So, please add your name at the end of each email you send to this list, for instance Roger Bunce always added his sent 'with luv'. making it easily recognisable, and you may notice that, as I've always had a reputation to maintain when it comes to drinking tea............ TeaTeaFN - Tony (and in case there are still some other Tony's on the list, that's Tony Grant, tea swiller extraordinary and former resident of the Red Tea Bar) Sent with Proton Mail secure email. -- Tech1 mailing list Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk -- Tech1 mailing list Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From plowmandave44 at gmail.com Thu Mar 9 17:55:16 2023 From: plowmandave44 at gmail.com (Dave Plowman) Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2023 23:55:16 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Signing your posts In-Reply-To: References: <822FD237-5E3E-4644-8B18-7072AC8E9811@me.com> Message-ID: <542803b2-66d3-b204-a470-1d6f994eccaa@gmail.com> Quite - see the bottom of this post. However given the c**p added to the bottom of many posts by the software of this forum or the device etc you're using to send, it may get rather lost. On 09/03/2023 21:59, Nick Ware via Tech1 wrote: > To add a signature automatically without having to remember to do it, in > iOS, go to settings - mail - signature, and customise it as you want it, > then tick ?all accounts?. > In MS Outlook, click ?new email - scroll along top menu bar to > ?signatures? icon - edit or create one, and save. > Apple Mac - something similar, I daresay. > Cheers, > N. > Nick Ware - sent from my iPad > >> On 9 Mar 2023, at 20:58, Alan Taylor via Tech1 >> wrote: >> >> ? >> On a related topic, some people sign off emails with a nickname. When >> archiving emails I generally try to use people?s real name when >> crediting their contribution because the site is probably going to be >> read by people who don?t know the individuals in real life. >> >> Would anybody prefer to be credited using their nickname rather than >> their real name? >> >> Alan >> >>> On 9 Mar 2023, at 20:22, techtone via Tech1 wrote: >>> >>> ? >>> Forgive me for harping on regarding this topic raised by Geoff >>> Hawkes, but I completely agree. Whilst it's possible to ferret around >>> headers and other ejements of emails and come up with a sender's name >>> (if your system is having a good day) it's a pain to jump through >>> hoops yourself, especially if the email makes an intelligent point, >>> and you'd like to agree, or add an even more intelligent response (as >>> is my case!!) but would like to know who to before formulating a >>> reply, as you may wish to tailor said reply to their known foibles.. >>> >>> So, please add your name at the end of each email you send to this >>> list, for instance Roger Bunce always added his sent 'with luv'. >>> making it easily recognisable, and you may notice that, as I've >>> always had a reputation to maintain when it comes to drinking >>> tea............ >>> >>> TeaTeaFN - Tony (and in case there are still some other Tony's on the >>> list, that's Tony Grant, tea swiller extraordinary and former >>> resident of the Red Tea Bar) >>> >>> Sent with Proton Mail secure email. >>> -- >>> Tech1 mailing list >>> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk >>> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk >> -- >> Tech1 mailing list >> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk >> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk > -- Dave Plowman London, SW From waresound at msn.com Fri Mar 10 01:48:57 2023 From: waresound at msn.com (Nick Ware) Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2023 07:48:57 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Signing your posts In-Reply-To: <542803b2-66d3-b204-a470-1d6f994eccaa@gmail.com> References: <822FD237-5E3E-4644-8B18-7072AC8E9811@me.com> <542803b2-66d3-b204-a470-1d6f994eccaa@gmail.com> Message-ID: So how come yours got added after all the previous c**p and mine didn?t? N. Nick Ware - sent from my iPad > On 9 Mar 2023, at 23:55, Dave Plowman via Tech1 wrote: > > ?Quite - see the bottom of this post. However given the c**p added to the bottom of many posts by the software of this forum or the device etc you're using to send, it may get rather lost. > >> On 09/03/2023 21:59, Nick Ware via Tech1 wrote: >> To add a signature automatically without having to remember to do it, in iOS, go to settings - mail - signature, and customise it as you want it, then tick ?all accounts?. >> In MS Outlook, click ?new email - scroll along top menu bar to ?signatures? icon - edit or create one, and save. >> Apple Mac - something similar, I daresay. >> Cheers, >> N. >> Nick Ware - sent from my iPad >>>> On 9 Mar 2023, at 20:58, Alan Taylor via Tech1 wrote: >>> >>> ? >>> On a related topic, some people sign off emails with a nickname. When archiving emails I generally try to use people?s real name when crediting their contribution because the site is probably going to be read by people who don?t know the individuals in real life. >>> >>> Would anybody prefer to be credited using their nickname rather than their real name? >>> >>> Alan >>> >>>> On 9 Mar 2023, at 20:22, techtone via Tech1 wrote: >>>> >>>> ? >>>> Forgive me for harping on regarding this topic raised by Geoff Hawkes, but I completely agree. Whilst it's possible to ferret around headers and other ejements of emails and come up with a sender's name (if your system is having a good day) it's a pain to jump through hoops yourself, especially if the email makes an intelligent point, and you'd like to agree, or add an even more intelligent response (as is my case!!) but would like to know who to before formulating a reply, as you may wish to tailor said reply to their known foibles.. >>>> >>>> So, please add your name at the end of each email you send to this list, for instance Roger Bunce always added his sent 'with luv'. making it easily recognisable, and you may notice that, as I've always had a reputation to maintain when it comes to drinking tea............ >>>> >>>> TeaTeaFN - Tony (and in case there are still some other Tony's on the list, that's Tony Grant, tea swiller extraordinary and former resident of the Red Tea Bar) >>>> >>>> Sent with Proton Mail secure email. >>>> -- >>>> Tech1 mailing list >>>> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk >>>> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk >>> -- >>> Tech1 mailing list >>> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk >>> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk > > -- > Dave Plowman > London, SW > > -- > Tech1 mailing list > Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk From plowmandave44 at gmail.com Fri Mar 10 04:27:42 2023 From: plowmandave44 at gmail.com (Dave Plowman) Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2023 10:27:42 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Signing your posts In-Reply-To: References: <822FD237-5E3E-4644-8B18-7072AC8E9811@me.com> <542803b2-66d3-b204-a470-1d6f994eccaa@gmail.com> Message-ID: <912a2cfd-6418-76c1-5090-02231be9db74@gmail.com> Because it has a sig separator before it. The idea being it will be automatically removed from any post which quotes it. As they will already know who they are relying to. More from the days when bandwidth cost money. On 10/03/2023 07:48, Nick Ware via Tech1 wrote: > So how come yours got added after all the previous c**p and mine didn?t? > N. > Nick Ware - sent from my iPad > >> On 9 Mar 2023, at 23:55, Dave Plowman via Tech1 wrote: >> >> ?Quite - see the bottom of this post. However given the c**p added to the bottom of many posts by the software of this forum or the device etc you're using to send, it may get rather lost. >> >>> On 09/03/2023 21:59, Nick Ware via Tech1 wrote: >>> To add a signature automatically without having to remember to do it, in iOS, go to settings - mail - signature, and customise it as you want it, then tick ?all accounts?. >>> In MS Outlook, click ?new email - scroll along top menu bar to ?signatures? icon - edit or create one, and save. >>> Apple Mac - something similar, I daresay. >>> Cheers, >>> N. >>> Nick Ware - sent from my iPad >>>>> On 9 Mar 2023, at 20:58, Alan Taylor via Tech1 wrote: >>>> >>>> ? >>>> On a related topic, some people sign off emails with a nickname. When archiving emails I generally try to use people?s real name when crediting their contribution because the site is probably going to be read by people who don?t know the individuals in real life. >>>> >>>> Would anybody prefer to be credited using their nickname rather than their real name? >>>> >>>> Alan >>>> >>>>> On 9 Mar 2023, at 20:22, techtone via Tech1 wrote: >>>>> >>>>> ? >>>>> Forgive me for harping on regarding this topic raised by Geoff Hawkes, but I completely agree. Whilst it's possible to ferret around headers and other ejements of emails and come up with a sender's name (if your system is having a good day) it's a pain to jump through hoops yourself, especially if the email makes an intelligent point, and you'd like to agree, or add an even more intelligent response (as is my case!!) but would like to know who to before formulating a reply, as you may wish to tailor said reply to their known foibles.. >>>>> >>>>> So, please add your name at the end of each email you send to this list, for instance Roger Bunce always added his sent 'with luv'. making it easily recognisable, and you may notice that, as I've always had a reputation to maintain when it comes to drinking tea............ >>>>> >>>>> TeaTeaFN - Tony (and in case there are still some other Tony's on the list, that's Tony Grant, tea swiller extraordinary and former resident of the Red Tea Bar) >>>>> >>>>> Sent with Proton Mail secure email. >>>>> -- >>>>> Tech1 mailing list >>>>> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk >>>>> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk >>>> -- >>>> Tech1 mailing list >>>> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk >>>> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk >> >> -- >> Dave Plowman >> London, SW >> >> -- >> Tech1 mailing list >> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk >> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk -- Dave Plowman London, SW From k.sam at tiscali.co.uk Fri Mar 10 04:45:08 2023 From: k.sam at tiscali.co.uk (Keith Salmon) Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2023 10:45:08 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Geoff Feld In-Reply-To: <4BE5AE84-7CC6-41A7-9208-21F9022D9152@gmail.com> References: <4BE5AE84-7CC6-41A7-9208-21F9022D9152@gmail.com> Message-ID: <37820F47-4C58-4574-A7D5-B32CF09111C2@tiscali.co.uk> Geoffrey the story Geoff told me. He was working in a plastics factory, before joining the BBC, and when he was operating a plastic press he brought the press down on his fingers losing two of them. He turned to a colleague to phone for an ambulance, the colleague fainted and ended up on the floor. Geoff had to phone himself. He reckoned part of the reason the BBC employed him was that he qualified as disabled, the BBC had to employ a certain percentage of disabled staff. Still above ground. Keith Salmon > On 9 Mar 2023, at 17:12, Geoffrey Hawkes wrote: > > No worries Keith and it wasn?t personal as you weren?t the only culprit. I know how easy it is to dash off a message particularly from a tablet or phone which may not have a signature set up and people forget to add their name. > Geoff was undoubtedly a clever and a multi-talented person with a mischievous sense of humour, a bit like the great Frank Wilkins who turned me from a boy into a man in that big new world of television in its hey day of the sixties. I had many an interesting conversation with Geoff when he was Frank?s number three (one below Bob Coles). Geoff had a liking for calligraphy too which I shared and his hand was even steadier and more developed than mine. > John Barlow mentioned his expertise in woodwork, an unlikely attribute it seemed till I remembered that he had the upper parts of two middle fingers missing. I think he told me once that it was the result of an accident with a wood working machine, probably a band saw or circular saw which wasn?t uncommon in the days before adequate safety guards were used. > I?m sure he will be given a good send off and hope that either Garth or John will do a fitting tribute and an obituary for Prospero. > Hope you are well, > Geoff Hawkes > >> On 9 Mar 2023, at 15:01, Keith Salmon wrote: >> >> ?Sorry Geoff should know better. >> >> Best wishes >> >> Keith Salmon >> >> >>> On 9 Mar 2023, at 14:45, Geoffrey Hawkes wrote: >>> >>> Sorry to go on about it, but the message about Geoff Feld today came as far as I could see with no identification as to who had sent it. The only clue is that when I hit ?Reply All? it came up with the name Keith Salmon in the ?To? box (cc Tech-Ops). Please can everyone be sure to put their name at the foot of messages as you would when handwriting a letter or note, then we?ll know who?s speaking, >>> Geoff Hawkes >>> >>>>> On 9 Mar 2023, at 12:29, Keith Salmon via Tech1 wrote: >>>> >>>> ? >>>> A lovely man, many happy memories working together. >>>> Geoff was a very good cameraman and his experience showed when he directed drama. >>>> RIP Geoff. >>>> -- >>>> Tech1 mailing list >>>> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk >>>> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk >> From dnewbitt at fireflyuk.net Fri Mar 10 14:30:39 2023 From: dnewbitt at fireflyuk.net (David Newbitt) Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2023 20:30:39 -0000 Subject: [Tech1] Anyone recognise these ladies? Message-ID: <6A22CB04E832470D93895E81F5F959BD@DESKTOP6GGCRV1> After many years of web searches I have a large collection of photos, a fair number of which I have failed to retain any provenance for. Could anyone throw any light on the picture here? Two of the three faces seem familiar to me but I have no idea if the reason for the period Mrs Mop garb was to do with a film, a TV program or neither. I kept it because I think it?s a great image but I wish I knew more. Dave Newbitt. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: days%20that%20used%20to%20be[3].jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 373152 bytes Desc: not available URL: From jpbarlow at btopenworld.com Mon Mar 13 04:24:36 2023 From: jpbarlow at btopenworld.com (John Barlow) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2023 09:24:36 -0000 Subject: [Tech1] GEOFF FELD MEMORIES PLEASE Message-ID: <004c01d9558d$a11b4950$e351dbf0$@btopenworld.com> Garth Tucker and I are compiling an obituary for Geoff Feld, and we would really appreciate anecdotes and memories that made Geoff the person we all loved. Some have already posted or texted but feel free to expand on these. This would be primarily for Prospero but there may be other options too such as various media outlets. Suggestions welcome. If there are sufficient, we could compile them into a Remembrance Book for the family. Photographs too would really help. Any format. There are quite a few available, we know, on the Tech Ops website but they tend to be without any commentary. Please send them to jpbarlow at btopenworld.com Looking forward to all contributions. Garth and JohnB -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From waresound at msn.com Mon Mar 13 11:13:42 2023 From: waresound at msn.com (Nick Ware) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2023 16:13:42 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] A Little Light Reading Message-ID: I thought some of you folk might like to catch up on some of the latest news from Practical Mechanics, February 1937. Editor: F.J. Camm , no less - a name I?m sure every schoolboy in the land knew in our youth. [image0.jpeg]? [image1.jpeg] Cheers, Nick. 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I recall watching things like "Champion the Wonder Horse" on it and possibly "The Lone Ranger?, but my most vivid memory is of a Christmas play with lots of snow, culminating in an avalanche from the porch roof enveloping one (or more) of the artists. Mike G > On 13 Mar 2023, at 16:13, Nick Ware via Tech1 wrote: > > I thought some of you folk might like to catch up on some of the latest news from Practical Mechanics, February 1937. Editor: F.J. Camm , no less - a name I?m sure every schoolboy in the land knew in our youth. > ? > > > > Cheers, > Nick. > Nick Ware - sent from my iPad > -- > Tech1 mailing list > Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk From saranewman at hotmail.com Mon Mar 13 12:25:12 2023 From: saranewman at hotmail.com (Sara Newman) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2023 17:25:12 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Anyone recognise these ladies? In-Reply-To: <6A22CB04E832470D93895E81F5F959BD@DESKTOP6GGCRV1> References: <6A22CB04E832470D93895E81F5F959BD@DESKTOP6GGCRV1> Message-ID: Hi, I used to go to The Goodwood Revival for many years, until it got so busy the fun was going out of it and I do remember something very similar to these ladies from there. I am almost sure that they were part of the paid entertainment from the 1940?s section - see picture below . I do somewhere have a photo of one of the circuit side cameramen dressed as a milkman I will post it if i can find it. The final year I was there, there was a trial of a drone camera filming the circuit which was fascination. We used to camp initially and then we stayed at the Goodwood Hotel but even that got impossible to book. Camping was great fun as the atmosphere was great and I loved all the dressing up ! 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Accordingly he booked accommodation at the Goodwood Hotel. Having had but little first hand experience of relatively upmarket hotels I remember finding it most agreeable. Food was excellent and rooms very civilised. Next morning we dropped him off for his reunion do and went to see the Victory and then the Marie Rose ? by then open to the public. Dimly lit and seen through the mist of the continuous water spray, I was somewhat disappointed. I believe it is very different now. A second night at Goodwood and then back home. The Merc was a revelation ? I had certainly never experienced such refinement nor such effortless delivery of power. Thank you Sara for taking the trouble ? it answered the query and re-kindled a rather special memory. Dave Newbitt. From: Sara Newman via Tech1 Sent: Monday, March 13, 2023 5:25 PM To: David Newbitt Cc: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk Subject: Re: [Tech1] Anyone recognise these ladies? Hi, I used to go to The Goodwood Revival for many years, until it got so busy the fun was going out of it and I do remember something very similar to these ladies from there. I am almost sure that they were part of the paid entertainment from the 1940?s section - see picture below . I do somewhere have a photo of one of the circuit side cameramen dressed as a milkman I will post it if i can find it. The final year I was there, there was a trial of a drone camera filming the circuit which was fascination. We used to camp initially and then we stayed at the Goodwood Hotel but even that got impossible to book. Camping was great fun as the atmosphere was great and I loved all the dressing up ! Sara On 10 Mar 2023, at 20:30, David Newbitt via Tech1 wrote: After many years of web searches I have a large collection of photos, a fair number of which I have failed to retain any provenance for. Could anyone throw any light on the picture here? 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Graeme Wall From barry-wilkinson at sky.com Sun Mar 19 07:59:11 2023 From: barry-wilkinson at sky.com (B Wilkinson) Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2023 12:59:11 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] This is a long podcast but very interesting technically about Hydrogen being an alternative to electricity or gas. References: <14001769-E66A-46DD-BDE8-8A18BB583B02.ref@sky.com> Message-ID: <14001769-E66A-46DD-BDE8-8A18BB583B02@sky.com> https://youtu.be/JlOCS95Jvjc Sent from my iPad From chris at chriswoolf.co.uk Sun Mar 19 08:34:49 2023 From: chris at chriswoolf.co.uk (Chris Woolf) Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2023 13:34:49 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] This is a long podcast but very interesting technically about Hydrogen being an alternative to electricity or gas. In-Reply-To: <14001769-E66A-46DD-BDE8-8A18BB583B02@sky.com> References: <14001769-E66A-46DD-BDE8-8A18BB583B02.ref@sky.com> <14001769-E66A-46DD-BDE8-8A18BB583B02@sky.com> Message-ID: <6ccf3543-5bd5-bdc2-6b8b-4b2c607f1814@chriswoolf.co.uk> Excellent stuff. Gathers together a lot of the myths and hopes about hydrogen. H as a reagent (say for steel making) - good. H as a fuel - to be strenuously avoided. Lord Bamford (JCB), a man renowned for making the most disastrous of choices (mainly for political reasons), has plumped for hydrogen as a future fuel for diggers etc - confirmation, if it was ever needed, of H being a wrong direction;} The gas and coal/coke companies are desperate not to be put out of business, and so come up with all sorts of spurious arguments and "halfway houses" but it isn't possible to disguise the implausibility. Chris Woolf On 19/03/2023 12:59, B Wilkinson via Tech1 wrote: > https://youtu.be/JlOCS95Jvjc > > > Sent from my iPad > From pat.heigham at amps.net Sun Mar 19 10:23:25 2023 From: pat.heigham at amps.net (Pat Heigham) Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2023 15:23:25 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Small heaters Message-ID: <88010ec5-00a1-6b6d-6975-aa72a6376069@amps.net> Dear All, To re-visit the discussion of some while agoabout small plug-in heaters...... Currently, I have experience of such a device, as I'm staying with a friend, the guest bedroom having no central heating. Supplied is a small electric ceramic heater, which seems remarkably efficient (Made in China - what isn't, nowadays!) It is a Puremate 1590 1800W. Has a two stage fan heat, oscillating function, and thermostat with variable setting. Works a treat - ?30 or so, from Amazon. https://www.amazon.co.uk/PureMate%C2%AE-1500W-Portable-Ceramic-Heater/dp/B07KSB2Y6G/ref=sr_1_1?crid=CZP1VNFDAVBH&keywords=Puremate%2B1590%2Bheater&qid=1679230485&sprefix=puremate%2B1590%2Bheater%2Caps%2C245&sr=8-1&th=1 Best Pat H -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From plowmandave44 at gmail.com Sun Mar 19 10:31:14 2023 From: plowmandave44 at gmail.com (Dave Plowman) Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2023 15:31:14 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Small heaters% In-Reply-To: <88010ec5-00a1-6b6d-6975-aa72a6376069@amps.net> References: <88010ec5-00a1-6b6d-6975-aa72a6376069@amps.net> Message-ID: <77f9c12f-b847-216f-00b0-809b47119ab1@gmail.com> All electric heaters are as near as dammit 100% efficient, Pat. And you can buy a thermostatically controlled fan heater with a choice of output levels from Screwfix for under ?20. On 19/03/2023 15:23, Pat Heigham via Tech1 wrote: > Dear All, > > To re-visit the discussion of some while agoabout small plug-in > heaters...... > > Currently, I have experience of such a device, as I'm staying with a friend, > the guest bedroom having no central heating. > Supplied is a small electric ceramic heater, which seems remarkably > efficient (Made in China - what isn't, nowadays!) > > It is a Puremate 1590 1800W. Has a two stage fan heat, oscillating function, > and thermostat with variable setting. Works a treat - ?30 or so, from > Amazon. > > https://www.amazon.co.uk/PureMate%C2%AE-1500W-Portable-Ceramic-Heater/dp/B07KSB2Y6G/ref=sr_1_1?crid=CZP1VNFDAVBH&keywords=Puremate%2B1590%2Bheater&qid=1679230485&sprefix=puremate%2B1590%2Bheater%2Caps%2C245&sr=8-1&th=1 > > Best > > Pat H > > -- Dave Plowman London, SW From chris at chriswoolf.co.uk Sun Mar 19 11:38:12 2023 From: chris at chriswoolf.co.uk (Chris Woolf) Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2023 16:38:12 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Small heaters In-Reply-To: <88010ec5-00a1-6b6d-6975-aa72a6376069@amps.net> References: <88010ec5-00a1-6b6d-6975-aa72a6376069@amps.net> Message-ID: <1af9ba05-580a-20a8-86ab-36defc674404@chriswoolf.co.uk> While these ceramic heaters are cheap, they are also small, so the energy density when operating is very high. If the fan stops working they /must/ switch themselves off very fast to prevent the whole thing catching fire. The warning to keep anything a metre away from the front tells you a lot. They are certainly safer than a lot of other heaters from the past, but I'm not sure how highly I would rate the manufacture of ?30 Chinese device that needs overheat thermostats, kick-over trip switches etc. Though they take longer to warm your underpants, the oil-filled type are a lot less risky. There are no safety spacing requirements, and in small rooms that's quite a benefit. Chris Woolf On 19/03/2023 15:23, Pat Heigham via Tech1 wrote: > > Dear All, > > To re-visit the discussion of some while agoabout small plug-in > heaters...... > > Currently, I have experience of such a device, as I'm staying with a > friend, > the guest bedroom having no central heating. > Supplied is a small electric ceramic heater, which seems remarkably > efficient (Made in China - what isn't, nowadays!) > > It is a Puremate 1590 1800W. Has a two stage fan heat, oscillating > function, > and thermostat with variable setting. Works a treat - ?30 or so, from > Amazon. > > https://www.amazon.co.uk/PureMate%C2%AE-1500W-Portable-Ceramic-Heater/dp/B07KSB2Y6G/ref=sr_1_1?crid=CZP1VNFDAVBH&keywords=Puremate%2B1590%2Bheater&qid=1679230485&sprefix=puremate%2B1590%2Bheater%2Caps%2C245&sr=8-1&th=1 > > Best > > Pat H > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alanaudio at me.com Sun Mar 19 12:28:08 2023 From: alanaudio at me.com (Alan Taylor) Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2023 17:28:08 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Small heaters In-Reply-To: <1af9ba05-580a-20a8-86ab-36defc674404@chriswoolf.co.uk> References: <1af9ba05-580a-20a8-86ab-36defc674404@chriswoolf.co.uk> Message-ID: <02D3CAFF-F788-40C7-9AD2-0CB25D4D4746@me.com> It?s a very long time since I had an electric fan heater, but one lasting memory was the burnt dust smell when you first use them the following year. Presumably the ceramic ones have the same issue? In a previous house we had a very small kitchen and decided that space would be more efficiently used if we got rid of the conventional radiator and put it a Myson kick space heater, which was basically a fan heater which took a feed of hot water from the central heating and used an electric fan to circulate it into the room. I was surprised to discover that this too had a singed dust smell after the first year. Not as bad as electric fan heaters, but enough to make me think twice about turning it on. Alan > On 19 Mar 2023, at 16:38, Chris Woolf via Tech1 wrote: > > ? > While these ceramic heaters are cheap, they are also small, so the energy density when operating is very high. If the fan stops working they must switch themselves off very fast to prevent the whole thing catching fire. The warning to keep anything a metre away from the front tells you a lot. They are certainly safer than a lot of other heaters from the past, but I'm not sure how highly I would rate the manufacture of ?30 Chinese device that needs overheat thermostats, kick-over trip switches etc. > > Though they take longer to warm your underpants, the oil-filled type are a lot less risky. There are no safety spacing requirements, and in small rooms that's quite a benefit. > > Chris Woolf > > > > On 19/03/2023 15:23, Pat Heigham via Tech1 wrote: >> Dear All, >> >> To re-visit the discussion of some while ago about small plug-in heaters...... >> >> Currently, I have experience of such a device, as I'm staying with a friend, >> the guest bedroom having no central heating. >> Supplied is a small electric ceramic heater, which seems remarkably >> efficient (Made in China - what isn't, nowadays!) >> >> It is a Puremate 1590 1800W. Has a two stage fan heat, oscillating function, >> and thermostat with variable setting. Works a treat - ?30 or so, from Amazon. >> >> https://www.amazon.co.uk/PureMate%C2%AE-1500W-Portable-Ceramic-Heater/dp/B07KSB2Y6G/ref=sr_1_1?crid=CZP1VNFDAVBH&keywords=Puremate%2B1590%2Bheater&qid=1679230485&sprefix=puremate%2B1590%2Bheater%2Caps%2C245&sr=8-1&th=1 >> >> Best >> >> Pat H >> >> >> > -- > Tech1 mailing list > Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dnewbitt at fireflyuk.net Sun Mar 19 12:47:25 2023 From: dnewbitt at fireflyuk.net (David Newbitt) Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2023 17:47:25 -0000 Subject: [Tech1] Small heaters In-Reply-To: <02D3CAFF-F788-40C7-9AD2-0CB25D4D4746@me.com> References: <1af9ba05-580a-20a8-86ab-36defc674404@chriswoolf.co.uk> <02D3CAFF-F788-40C7-9AD2-0CB25D4D4746@me.com> Message-ID: <11878CEB57864767A69573EE6F249989@DESKTOP6GGCRV1> These plinth heaters are often thought to be troublesome (at least in the guise of those plumbed-in rather than straight electric powered) and can be noisy to boot. Many smaller kitchens however offer little room for alternatives so they do have their place. Dave Newbitt. From: Alan Taylor via Tech1 Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2023 5:28 PM To: tech1 Subject: Re: [Tech1] Small heaters It?s a very long time since I had an electric fan heater, but one lasting memory was the burnt dust smell when you first use them the following year. Presumably the ceramic ones have the same issue? In a previous house we had a very small kitchen and decided that space would be more efficiently used if we got rid of the conventional radiator and put it a Myson kick space heater, which was basically a fan heater which took a feed of hot water from the central heating and used an electric fan to circulate it into the room. I was surprised to discover that this too had a singed dust smell after the first year. Not as bad as electric fan heaters, but enough to make me think twice about turning it on. Alan On 19 Mar 2023, at 16:38, Chris Woolf via Tech1 wrote: ? While these ceramic heaters are cheap, they are also small, so the energy density when operating is very high. If the fan stops working they must switch themselves off very fast to prevent the whole thing catching fire. The warning to keep anything a metre away from the front tells you a lot. They are certainly safer than a lot of other heaters from the past, but I'm not sure how highly I would rate the manufacture of ?30 Chinese device that needs overheat thermostats, kick-over trip switches etc. Though they take longer to warm your underpants, the oil-filled type are a lot less risky. There are no safety spacing requirements, and in small rooms that's quite a benefit. Chris Woolf On 19/03/2023 15:23, Pat Heigham via Tech1 wrote: Dear All, To re-visit the discussion of some while ago about small plug-in heaters...... Currently, I have experience of such a device, as I'm staying with a friend, the guest bedroom having no central heating. Supplied is a small electric ceramic heater, which seems remarkably efficient (Made in China - what isn't, nowadays!) It is a Puremate 1590 1800W. Has a two stage fan heat, oscillating function, and thermostat with variable setting. Works a treat - ?30 or so, from Amazon. https://www.amazon.co.uk/PureMate%C2%AE-1500W-Portable-Ceramic-Heater/dp/B07KSB2Y6G/ref=sr_1_1?crid=CZP1VNFDAVBH&keywords=Puremate%2B1590%2Bheater&qid=1679230485&sprefix=puremate%2B1590%2Bheater%2Caps%2C245&sr=8-1&th=1 Best Pat H -- Tech1 mailing list Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Tech1 mailing list Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From plowmandave44 at gmail.com Sun Mar 19 18:51:29 2023 From: plowmandave44 at gmail.com (Dave Plowman) Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2023 23:51:29 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Small heaters In-Reply-To: <1af9ba05-580a-20a8-86ab-36defc674404@chriswoolf.co.uk> References: <88010ec5-00a1-6b6d-6975-aa72a6376069@amps.net> <1af9ba05-580a-20a8-86ab-36defc674404@chriswoolf.co.uk> Message-ID: The energy cost crisis brought lots out of woodwork claiming their 'different' electric heater would save you money. Accompanied by lots of glowing testimonials. R4 did a very decent prog about them - and had a fire expert go over the safety features - or lack of them. As you say, am oil filled one is likely best for all day use - but for occasional quick heat, you can't beat the standard fan heater. A tried and tested design. On 19/03/2023 16:38, Chris Woolf via Tech1 wrote: > While these ceramic heaters are cheap, they are also small, so the > energy density when operating is very high. If the fan stops working > they /must/ switch themselves off very fast to prevent the whole thing > catching fire. The warning to keep anything a metre away from the front > tells you a lot. They are certainly safer than a lot of other heaters > from the past, but I'm not sure how highly I would rate the manufacture > of ?30 Chinese device that needs overheat thermostats, kick-over trip > switches etc. > > Though they take longer to warm your underpants, the oil-filled type are > a lot less risky. There are no safety spacing requirements, and in small > rooms that's quite a benefit. > > Chris Woolf > > > On 19/03/2023 15:23, Pat Heigham via Tech1 wrote: >> >> Dear All, >> >> To re-visit the discussion of some while agoabout small plug-in >> heaters...... >> >> Currently, I have experience of such a device, as I'm staying with a >> friend, >> the guest bedroom having no central heating. >> Supplied is a small electric ceramic heater, which seems remarkably >> efficient (Made in China - what isn't, nowadays!) >> >> It is a Puremate 1590 1800W. Has a two stage fan heat, oscillating >> function, >> and thermostat with variable setting. Works a treat - ?30 or so, from >> Amazon. >> >> https://www.amazon.co.uk/PureMate%C2%AE-1500W-Portable-Ceramic-Heater/dp/B07KSB2Y6G/ref=sr_1_1?crid=CZP1VNFDAVBH&keywords=Puremate%2B1590%2Bheater&qid=1679230485&sprefix=puremate%2B1590%2Bheater%2Caps%2C245&sr=8-1&th=1 >> >> Best >> >> Pat H >> >> > -- Dave Plowman London, SW From waresound at msn.com Mon Mar 20 04:49:27 2023 From: waresound at msn.com (Nick Ware) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2023 09:49:27 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Small heaters Message-ID: We have a couple of small 2kW fan heaters that only get brought out at odd moments when the central heating can?t cope with our fairly large dining room and it?s high vaulted ceiling (seated 17 at Christmas!). I do marvel at how little heat they actually produce though, and have to wonder how much of the possible energy efficiency is lost by the fan?s cold air inrush preventing the 2kW element from heating up enough in the first place. Evidence of that is that the hottest output is with the fan on its mid setting, not the high setting. I think the only thing you gain with a small fan heater is compact size (if that matters), not efficiency. We used to have a cylindical tube upright convection heater, also 2kW, that we?d had since the 1950?s and only threw out about four years ago. Now that really was very effective because the airflow was determined by the heating element, not forced by a fan. It contained a mercury tube cutout in case the heater got knocked over, which it never did, but it was quite fun to tilt it sideways and watch the flashing in the glass tube. Cheers, Nick. Nick Ware - sent from my iPad > On 19 Mar 2023, at 23:52, Dave Plowman via Tech1 wrote: > ?The energy cost crisis brought lots out of woodwork claiming their 'different' electric heater would save you money. Accompanied by lots of glowing testimonials. R4 did a very decent prog about them - and had a fire expert go over the safety features - or lack of them. > > As you say, am oil filled one is likely best for all day use - but for occasional quick heat, you can't beat the standard fan heater. A tried and tested design. > > On 19/03/2023 16:38, Chris Woolf via Tech1 wrote: >> While these ceramic heaters are cheap, they are also small, so the energy density when operating is very high. If the fan stops working they /must/ switch themselves off very fast to prevent the whole thing catching fire. The warning to keep anything a metre away from the front tells you a lot. They are certainly safer than a lot of other heaters from the past, but I'm not sure how highly I would rate the manufacture of ?30 Chinese device that needs overheat thermostats, kick-over trip switches etc. >> Though they take longer to warm your underpants, the oil-filled type are a lot less risky. There are no safety spacing requirements, and in small rooms that's quite a benefit. >> Chris Woolf >> On 19/03/2023 15:23, Pat Heigham via Tech1 wrote: >>> Dear All, >>> To re-visit the discussion of some while agoabout small plug-in heaters...... >>> Currently, I have experience of such a device, as I'm staying with a friend, >>> the guest bedroom having no central heating. >>> Supplied is a small electric ceramic heater, which seems remarkably >>> efficient (Made in China - what isn't, nowadays!) >>> It is a Puremate 1590 1800W. Has a two stage fan heat, oscillating function, >>> and thermostat with variable setting. Works a treat - ?30 or so, from Amazon. >>> https://www.amazon.co.uk/PureMate%C2%AE-1500W-Portable-Ceramic-Heater/dp/B07KSB2Y6G/ref=sr_1_1?crid=CZP1VNFDAVBH&keywords=Puremate%2B1590%2Bheater&qid=1679230485&sprefix=puremate%2B1590%2Bheater%2Caps%2C245&sr=8-1&th=1 >>> Best >>> Pat H > > -- > Dave Plowman > London, SW > > -- > Tech1 mailing list > Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk From saranewman at hotmail.com Mon Mar 20 05:17:25 2023 From: saranewman at hotmail.com (Sara Newman) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2023 10:17:25 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Barn owls Message-ID: Hi Hope you are all in fine fettle ! We are having an old fashioned barn built and I am having an owl box fitted and I would like to fit a camera so I can see what?s afoot inside It has to be fitted 3 m + high so cabling will be an issue There will be electric but no WiFi Can I ask you lovely people if you have any suggestions? Yous in excited anticipation Sarax Sent from my iPhone From alanaudio at me.com Mon Mar 20 05:19:55 2023 From: alanaudio at me.com (Alan Taylor) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2023 10:19:55 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Small heaters In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <95046592-7941-4ACD-A9C2-06226B0D3A69@me.com> I?m one of those inquisitive people who tends to look to see how things work. We have one of those heat-driven fans which sits on top of the wood burner and gently wafts heat into the room. On the face of it, it couldn?t be much simpler. It has no battery or mains power, just a Peltier module which creates electricity if one side is hotter than the other. The bottom half of the fan is a thermally conducting stand which gets hot by standing on the wood burner and carries the heat to the module. The top part is a rather large heat sink to cool the top of the module and create that thermal gradient. There is a small motor which drives a fan and that?s it. But the manual says it has automatic protection against overheat and over speed. I was rather sceptical about that because all the wiring is clearly visible and there are no other components. Closer inspection revealed that the base contains a tiny bimetallic strip which normally lies flush with the base. If it gets too hot, the bimetallic strip bends and slightly tilts one side of the base by a few mm so that it?s no longer standing flush, but now only has a minimal contact area. Very simple, very cheap, very elegant. The amount of air moved it fairly small, but our wood burner is installed in such a way that there is a void behind the stone mantelpiece which traps warm air, warm air which would be more usefully used in the rest of the room. The fan is just enough to shift that warm air into the main part of the room. An IR thermometer shows that the temperature in that dead space is rather lower when the fan is running. Alan > On 20 Mar 2023, at 09:50, Nick Ware via Tech1 wrote: > ? It contained a mercury tube cutout in case the heater got knocked over, which it never did, but it was quite fun to tilt it sideways and watch the flashing in the glass tube. > From alanaudio at me.com Mon Mar 20 05:48:14 2023 From: alanaudio at me.com (Alan Taylor) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2023 10:48:14 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Barn owls In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6BB4167C-0EB9-44E3-9AF9-FD4DA4A048DD@me.com> Much depends on whether you want to have a sneaky peep every so often, or whether you want live viewing 24/7. We have a bird box which we wanted to keep an eye on, but didn?t need continuous viewing. There was no easy power source. The solution I came up with was to use a cheap endoscopic camera accessory which works into an iPad. Last time I looked they were about ?30, maybe cheaper. The endoscope has its own rechargeable battery and communicates with the iPad via its own WiFi. It doesn?t need the house WiFi. I drilled 6mm holes in the bird boxes, sometimes more than one to get different angles. The holes are at an angle to reduce water ingress and can have a plug or twisting cover on the outside when not in use. One accessory wich came with the endoscope is a tiny round mirror, allowing viewing at 90? to the camera axis. The camera is on the end of a flexible gooseneck, maybe 3 metres long. It?s quite easy to poke it up into wherever it?s needed. Our requirements were for a way to keep an eye on any chicks. A couple of years ago we had some lovely ones, but then a rat or squirrel gnawed at the main entrance hole, making it big enough to get in and eat them all. The new bird box has a front and roof made from slate, which will hopefully be rodent proof. So far we have no tenants this year. If the owl box is in a barn, the camera could be left in position all the time and only switched on when you want to view the images. I couldn?t do that as my bird box is too exposed. The other advantage of this approach is that I?ve also got the endoscope gadget for various DIY jobs, making it possible to see what is above, below or behind things before doing anything drastic. If you want continuous viewing from indoors, you need to get the image back to the house. Easiest option might be to run an Ethernet cable. The cable is cheap and good for runs of up to 1Km. If you did that, there are two options. One is a camera connected by Ethernet. The other is to use that Ethernet cable to have WiFi in the barn and in turn to the area around there. You could then use a WiFi camera. I?ve got WiFi in my garden and it?s proved to be much more useful than I expected. Alan > On 20 Mar 2023, at 10:18, Sara Newman via Tech1 wrote: > > ?Hi Hope you are all in fine fettle ! 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Best wishes Simon Simon Vaughan Archivist for and on behalf of Alexandra Palace Television Society ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Mob: +44 (0)7791 780882 Email: apts at apts.org.uk Twitter: https://twitter.com/APTSArchive Web: www.apts.org.uk ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From: Public Engagement Date: Monday, 20 March 2023 at 12:00 To: Subject: Pioneering Women at the BBC - a free online event this Thursday evening Good afternoon, We thought our upcoming online event for the public might be of interest to you, so please feel free to register and share with your contacts or networks. Pioneering Women at the BBC ? Thursday 23 March 7-8:30pm For more than a century the BBC has been a fixture of British cultural life. Few people are aware, however, of the crucial role played by women in its earliest days. 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Message-ID: Before I dispose of it, does anyone here have a use for my Kodak Carousel slide projector? It?s been hanging around here for 40+ years or so. I?ve given it an overhaul and it?s in perfect working order, and comes with wired remote, two MT slide carriers and two spare halogen bulbs. Free to good home, to quote a well known phrase or saying. (Or you could offer me some dosh for it, but judging by the number of them not selling on Ebay, I won?t hold much hope of that). Please, please, someone save it from going in the electrical items recycling skip! Cheers, Nick. Nick Ware - sent from my iPad From gary_critcher at yahoo.com Tue Mar 21 06:24:30 2023 From: gary_critcher at yahoo.com (Gary Critcher) Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2023 11:24:30 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Tech1] Contact? References: <619184077.4467544.1679397870827.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <619184077.4467544.1679397870827@mail.yahoo.com> ? 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In-Reply-To: <619184077.4467544.1679397870827@mail.yahoo.com> References: <619184077.4467544.1679397870827.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <619184077.4467544.1679397870827@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Sorry. I had a stroke in November which rather slowed me down *B* On Tue, Mar 21, 2023 at 11:25?AM Gary Critcher via Tech1 < tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote: > Has anyone heard from Bernie lately? > I haven't seen him on here in a while..... > -- > Tech1 mailing list > Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From timhealy935 at btinternet.com Tue Mar 21 08:03:31 2023 From: timhealy935 at btinternet.com (Michael Healy) Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2023 13:03:31 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Geoff Feld Message-ID: <334C42AD-97F1-4E3E-A521-175154238254@btinternet.com> Hi all, I?ve been away for some time, have I missed details of Geoff?s funeral? Regards Tim Healy From waresound at msn.com Tue Mar 21 11:13:57 2023 From: waresound at msn.com (Nick Ware) Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2023 16:13:57 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Kodak Carousel 35mm slide projector, FTGH. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Just a note to say this has been spoken for now. Ta. Nick. Nick Ware - sent from my iPad > On 21 Mar 2023, at 10:49, Nick Ware wrote: > > ?Before I dispose of it, does anyone here have a use for my Kodak Carousel slide projector? It?s been hanging around here for 40+ years or so. I?ve given it an overhaul and it?s in perfect working order, and comes with wired remote, two MT slide carriers and two spare halogen bulbs. > Free to good home, to quote a well known phrase or saying. (Or you could offer me some dosh for it, but judging by the number of them not selling on Ebay, I won?t hold much hope of that). > Please, please, someone save it from going in the electrical items recycling skip! > Cheers, > Nick. > > Nick Ware - sent from my iPad From crew13 at vincent68.plus.com Tue Mar 21 11:28:42 2023 From: crew13 at vincent68.plus.com (crew13) Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2023 16:28:42 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Geoff Feld Message-ID: Any details He was a big influence! John V From dnewbitt at fireflyuk.net Tue Mar 21 12:25:08 2023 From: dnewbitt at fireflyuk.net (David Newbitt) Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2023 17:25:08 -0000 Subject: [Tech1] Contact? In-Reply-To: References: <619184077.4467544.1679397870827.ref@mail.yahoo.com><619184077.4467544.1679397870827@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Like Dave P I hope someone is able to throw a little light on the apparent absence. I've never known him on a personal level but am strongly aware of how much he has contributed to this forum. One must of course recognise and respect right of privacy and if there are personal reasons for what we trust is a temporary absence from the fray then we must hope the concerns of us all will serve as an expression of our gratitude. Dave Newbitt. -----Original Message----- From: Dave Plowman via Tech1 Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2023 11:27 AM To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk Subject: Re: [Tech1] Contact? I did email him some time back about a problem with the forum, but no reply. Do hope he is OK. But we're all getting older, I'd guess. On 21/03/2023 11:24, Gary Critcher via Tech1 wrote: > Has anyone heard from Bernie lately? > I haven't seen him on here in a while..... > -- Dave Plowman London, SW -- Tech1 mailing list Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk From bernie833 at gmail.com Wed Mar 22 05:20:22 2023 From: bernie833 at gmail.com (Bernard Newnham) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2023 10:20:22 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Me Message-ID: <9b2449b0-76d4-7e02-8d74-724e2585420d@gmail.com> In response to Gary's request? .... Last November I had stroke, which has left me rather slowed. down, and much dependent on my wife Pauline. It followed sepsis of which I've had another round since. The email list is paid for years to come, and mostly I haven't contributed because I had nothing to say. And I still don't know how the list works. B -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From plowmandave44 at gmail.com Wed Mar 22 05:30:08 2023 From: plowmandave44 at gmail.com (Dave Plowman) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2023 10:30:08 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Me In-Reply-To: <9b2449b0-76d4-7e02-8d74-724e2585420d@gmail.com> References: <9b2449b0-76d4-7e02-8d74-724e2585420d@gmail.com> Message-ID: <16ab49ab-87b5-632a-04c6-d65afa0c71a7@gmail.com> Get well soon Bernie and thanks a million for all your sterling work providing this facility. Dave. On 22/03/2023 10:20, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 wrote: > In response to Gary's request? et well soon.... > > Last November I had stroke, which has left me rather slowed. down, and > much dependent on my wife Pauline. It followed sepsis of which I've had > another round since. > > The email list is paid for years to come, and mostly I haven't > contributed because I had nothing to say. And I still don't know how the > list works. > > B > -- Dave Plowman London, SW From nick at nickway.co.uk Wed Mar 22 05:58:25 2023 From: nick at nickway.co.uk (Nick Way) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2023 10:58:25 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [Tech1] Me In-Reply-To: <9b2449b0-76d4-7e02-8d74-724e2585420d@gmail.com> References: <9b2449b0-76d4-7e02-8d74-724e2585420d@gmail.com> Message-ID: <545341459.65153.1679482705692@email.ionos.co.uk> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From dnewbitt at fireflyuk.net Wed Mar 22 06:15:27 2023 From: dnewbitt at fireflyuk.net (David Newbitt) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2023 11:15:27 -0000 Subject: [Tech1] Me In-Reply-To: <16ab49ab-87b5-632a-04c6-d65afa0c71a7@gmail.com> References: <9b2449b0-76d4-7e02-8d74-724e2585420d@gmail.com> <16ab49ab-87b5-632a-04c6-d65afa0c71a7@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hear hear! Dave Newbitt. -----Original Message----- From: Dave Plowman via Tech1 Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2023 10:30 AM To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk Subject: Re: [Tech1] Me Get well soon Bernie and thanks a million for all your sterling work providing this facility. Dave. On 22/03/2023 10:20, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 wrote: > In response to Gary's request et well soon.... > > Last November I had stroke, which has left me rather slowed. down, and > much dependent on my wife Pauline. It followed sepsis of which I've had > another round since. > > The email list is paid for years to come, and mostly I haven't > contributed because I had nothing to say. And I still don't know how the > list works. > > B > -- Dave Plowman London, SW -- Tech1 mailing list Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk From plowmandave44 at gmail.com Wed Mar 22 08:55:23 2023 From: plowmandave44 at gmail.com (Dave Plowman) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2023 13:55:23 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Cannon LNE. Message-ID: <4e2bc51b-a970-b5ce-afd9-3832901fc880@gmail.com> These are the mains connectors based on the XLR, and NLA. If anyone has new ones lying around, they seem to be fetching ?15+ on Ebay. -- Dave Plowman London, SW From waresound at msn.com Wed Mar 22 09:39:15 2023 From: waresound at msn.com (Nick Ware) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2023 14:39:15 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Cannon LNE. In-Reply-To: <4e2bc51b-a970-b5ce-afd9-3832901fc880@gmail.com> References: <4e2bc51b-a970-b5ce-afd9-3832901fc880@gmail.com> Message-ID: I think they are only legal within fixed installations now. Best avoided. Cheers, N. Nick Ware - sent from my iPad > On 22 Mar 2023, at 13:56, Dave Plowman via Tech1 wrote: > > ?These are the mains connectors based on the XLR, and NLA. If anyone has new ones lying around, they seem to be fetching ?15+ on Ebay. > > -- > Dave Plowman > London, SW > > -- > Tech1 mailing list > Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk From dave at davesound.co.uk Wed Mar 22 09:42:11 2023 From: dave at davesound.co.uk (Dave Plowman) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2023 14:42:11 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Cannon LNE. In-Reply-To: References: <4e2bc51b-a970-b5ce-afd9-3832901fc880@gmail.com> Message-ID: Oh, indeed. But ?15 for sticking something in a jiffy bag then postbox seems good to me. On 22/03/2023 14:39, Nick Ware via Tech1 wrote: > I think they are only legal within fixed installations now. Best avoided. > Cheers, > N. > Nick Ware - sent from my iPad > >> On 22 Mar 2023, at 13:56, Dave Plowman via Tech1 wrote: >> >> ?These are the mains connectors based on the XLR, and NLA. If anyone has new ones lying around, they seem to be fetching ?15+ on Ebay. >> >> -- >> Dave Plowman >> London, SW >> >> -- >> Tech1 mailing list >> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk >> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk -- Dave P London SW From saranewman at hotmail.com Wed Mar 22 10:16:35 2023 From: saranewman at hotmail.com (Sara Newman) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2023 15:16:35 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Me In-Reply-To: References: <9b2449b0-76d4-7e02-8d74-724e2585420d@gmail.com> <16ab49ab-87b5-632a-04c6-d65afa0c71a7@gmail.com> Message-ID: Loved the video Wish our U3A was as dynamic Take care and I hope you are feeling better soon Sarax Sent from my iPhone > On 22 Mar 2023, at 11:16, David Newbitt via Tech1 wrote: > > ?Hear hear! > > Dave Newbitt. > > -----Original Message----- From: Dave Plowman via Tech1 Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2023 10:30 AM To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk Subject: Re: [Tech1] Me > Get well soon Bernie and thanks a million for all your sterling work providing this facility. > > Dave. > >> On 22/03/2023 10:20, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 wrote: >> In response to Gary's request et well soon.... >> Last November I had stroke, which has left me rather slowed. down, and much dependent on my wife Pauline. It followed sepsis of which I've had another round since. >> The email list is paid for years to come, and mostly I haven't contributed because I had nothing to say. And I still don't know how the list works. >> B > > -- > Dave Plowman > London, SW > > -- > Tech1 mailing list > Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > https://emea01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Ftech-ops.co.uk%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Ftech1_tech-ops.co.uk&data=05%7C01%7C%7Ccccfee421fac45adb54608db2ac6d755%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C638150805743691809%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=81kkuQekHTRLOD9DBXtkKxm21DM1vA%2BBYJPiSmgk38c%3D&reserved=0 > > -- > Tech1 mailing list > Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > https://emea01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Ftech-ops.co.uk%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Ftech1_tech-ops.co.uk&data=05%7C01%7C%7Ccccfee421fac45adb54608db2ac6d755%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C638150805743691809%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=81kkuQekHTRLOD9DBXtkKxm21DM1vA%2BBYJPiSmgk38c%3D&reserved=0 From alanaudio at me.com Thu Mar 23 02:28:42 2023 From: alanaudio at me.com (Alan Taylor) Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2023 07:28:42 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Computational photography Message-ID: <4F036067-EB82-4AEB-81BF-83169BA55004@me.com> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Message-ID: Have you seen the ?ultra massive black hole? story on the BBC homepage? I think the piccy was taken with a fisheye lens! Cheers, N. Nick Ware - sent from my iPad From pat.heigham at amps.net Thu Mar 30 04:04:01 2023 From: pat.heigham at amps.net (Pat Heigham) Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2023 10:04:01 +0100 Subject: [Tech1] Ultra massive black hole. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2f64af2c-fe0d-517b-d425-5c6ffb69ee9e@amps.net> Nice one, Nick. Presumably that produces a /cod/ photo? Pat H On 29/03/2023 16:46, Nick Ware via Tech1 wrote: > Have you seen the ?ultra massive black hole? story on the BBC homepage? I think the piccy was taken with a fisheye lens! > Cheers, > N. > Nick Ware - sent from my iPad -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From graeme.wall at icloud.com Thu Mar 30 04:07:58 2023 From: graeme.wall at icloud.com (Graeme Wall) Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2023 10:07:58 +0100 Subject: [Tech1] Ultra massive black hole. In-Reply-To: <2f64af2c-fe0d-517b-d425-5c6ffb69ee9e@amps.net> References: <2f64af2c-fe0d-517b-d425-5c6ffb69ee9e@amps.net> Message-ID: <2A0BBA78-7C2E-4F9F-AC29-530F989CA04D@icloud.com> Depends on the scale of the image. > On 30 Mar 2023, at 10:04, Pat Heigham via Tech1 wrote: > > Nice one, Nick. > Presumably that produces a cod photo? > Pat H > On 29/03/2023 16:46, Nick Ware via Tech1 wrote: >> Have you seen the ?ultra massive black hole? story on the BBC homepage? I think the piccy was taken with a fisheye lens! >> Cheers, >> N. >> Nick Ware - sent from my iPad >> > -- > Tech1 mailing list > Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk ? Graeme Wall From dnewbitt at fireflyuk.net Thu Mar 30 12:36:43 2023 From: dnewbitt at fireflyuk.net (David Newbitt) Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2023 18:36:43 +0100 Subject: [Tech1] Ultra massive black hole. In-Reply-To: <2A0BBA78-7C2E-4F9F-AC29-530F989CA04D@icloud.com> References: <2f64af2c-fe0d-517b-d425-5c6ffb69ee9e@amps.net> <2A0BBA78-7C2E-4F9F-AC29-530F989CA04D@icloud.com> Message-ID: Until Nick posted I was beginning to fear the forum was gasping its last - really has been very quiet. Must say as far as Cosmic news goes I was in awe of the magnitude of energy force described in the item here https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-65104115. It appears this and other such bursts release more energy in a few seconds than our sun produces in 10 billion years. Dave Newbitt. -----Original Message----- From: Graeme Wall via Tech1 Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2023 10:07 AM To: Pat Heigham Cc: Nick Ware ; Tech ops Subject: Re: [Tech1] Ultra massive black hole. Depends on the scale of the image. > On 30 Mar 2023, at 10:04, Pat Heigham via Tech1 > wrote: > > Nice one, Nick. > Presumably that produces a cod photo? > Pat H > On 29/03/2023 16:46, Nick Ware via Tech1 wrote: >> Have you seen the ?ultra massive black hole? story on the BBC homepage? I >> think the piccy was taken with a fisheye lens! >> Cheers, >> N. >> Nick Ware - sent from my iPad >> > -- > Tech1 mailing list > Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk ? Graeme Wall -- Tech1 mailing list Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk