From alanaudio at me.com  Thu Aug  3 04:27:32 2023
From: alanaudio at me.com (Alan Taylor)
Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2023 10:27:32 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Zoom audio
In-Reply-To: <1bda5a94-0271-5486-d095-cb7738bd7e29@gmail.com>
References: <1bda5a94-0271-5486-d095-cb7738bd7e29@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <11DD3346-005B-469E-88DC-12E7FCFFBC39@me.com>

It might be worth taking a look at the Audacity digital audio software - it?s free, which is always an attractive price. It?s available for most platforms.

It?s a while since I?ve used Audacity, but I remember it having a 30 band graphic EQ built in.  The software was rock-solid and I relied on it for recording and trimming some fast turnaround shows where a recording of a live conference needed to be posted online just a few minutes after it had finished. It?s intended as a digital audio workstation, but I?ve been able to use some of its features in real time on a Mac and would assume that the same is possible on other platforms.

Alan



> On 3 Aug 2023, at 10:13, Dave Plowman via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> ?Hi Chaps,
>          Once a month my family - scattered over the UK - have a Zoom meeting. Just a chat and a quiz for the kids. I host it using a paid for Zoom account - to give the time needed in one go.
> 
> For my comfort, I do it from my living room where I have a PC mainly used as a music server. So I get the pictures and sound from the normal TV and audio system. My camera on a lazy arm. My mic end consists of a Tram TR 250 fed via a mixer with three band EQ. And heavily tweeked. Without the EQ it sounds decidedly woolly compared to the Zoom norm - a mic in a phone or laptop.
> 
> I also have a fairly decent USB tie-clip mic which sounds much the same as the TR250 flat.
> 
> What I'd like is free or low cost software to EQ the USB mic for Zoom.
> Or other suggestions. I've looked for a single channel USB EQ unit which would take up less room that the mixer, but without success. And don't want to spend much anyway.
> -- 
> Dave Plowman
> London, SW
> 
> -- 
> Tech1 mailing list
> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk


From alanaudio at me.com  Thu Aug  3 04:35:41 2023
From: alanaudio at me.com (Alan Taylor)
Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2023 10:35:41 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Technical car boot sale or flea market
Message-ID: <4DA9E8EF-AEAD-4040-A3D3-1FCDE79B24AD@me.com>

I?m selling off most of my equipment now that I?ve retired.  The big name things will be going onto BB List, while selected items will be sold locally, but I?m still left with loads of stuff which is either too bulky for parcels, rather niche, or not valuable enough to justify carriage charges, but too good to throw away.

Do any of you know of any techie car boot sales or flea markets where odd bits of gear can find new owners?

Alan

From graeme.wall at icloud.com  Fri Aug  4 06:06:25 2023
From: graeme.wall at icloud.com (Graeme Wall)
Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2023 12:06:25 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Zoom audio
In-Reply-To: <11DD3346-005B-469E-88DC-12E7FCFFBC39@me.com>
References: <1bda5a94-0271-5486-d095-cb7738bd7e29@gmail.com>
	<11DD3346-005B-469E-88DC-12E7FCFFBC39@me.com>
Message-ID: <88B9BE26-1921-4CCC-B84C-3A27ECA1D83F@icloud.com>

Another vote for Audacity, it is surprisingly flexible at the price! Easily useable even by a cameraman.

> On 3 Aug 2023, at 10:27, Alan Taylor via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> It might be worth taking a look at the Audacity digital audio software - it?s free, which is always an attractive price. It?s available for most platforms.
> 
> It?s a while since I?ve used Audacity, but I remember it having a 30 band graphic EQ built in.  The software was rock-solid and I relied on it for recording and trimming some fast turnaround shows where a recording of a live conference needed to be posted online just a few minutes after it had finished. It?s intended as a digital audio workstation, but I?ve been able to use some of its features in real time on a Mac and would assume that the same is possible on other platforms.
> 
> Alan
> 
> 
> 
>> On 3 Aug 2023, at 10:13, Dave Plowman via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
>> 
>> ?Hi Chaps,
>>         Once a month my family - scattered over the UK - have a Zoom meeting. Just a chat and a quiz for the kids. I host it using a paid for Zoom account - to give the time needed in one go.
>> 
>> For my comfort, I do it from my living room where I have a PC mainly used as a music server. So I get the pictures and sound from the normal TV and audio system. My camera on a lazy arm. My mic end consists of a Tram TR 250 fed via a mixer with three band EQ. And heavily tweeked. Without the EQ it sounds decidedly woolly compared to the Zoom norm - a mic in a phone or laptop.
>> 
>> I also have a fairly decent USB tie-clip mic which sounds much the same as the TR250 flat.
>> 
>> What I'd like is free or low cost software to EQ the USB mic for Zoom.
>> Or other suggestions. I've looked for a single channel USB EQ unit which would take up less room that the mixer, but without success. And don't want to spend much anyway.
>> -- 
>> Dave Plowman
>> London, SW
>> 
>> -- 
>> Tech1 mailing list
>> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
>> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk
> 
> -- 
> Tech1 mailing list
> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk

? 
Graeme Wall




From robert.miles at soundsuper.co.uk  Fri Aug  4 11:13:58 2023
From: robert.miles at soundsuper.co.uk (Robert Miles)
Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2023 17:13:58 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Yvonne Littlewood Obit on R4
Message-ID: <004401d9c6ee$acca5e80$065f1b80$@soundsuper.co.uk>

Yvonne Littlewood's obit on R4's Last Word programme - 

7 mins 28 sec in from start -  <https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m001p7pn>
Last Word - 04/08/2023 - BBC Sounds

 

Rob

 

 

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From waresound at msn.com  Sat Aug  5 07:05:57 2023
From: waresound at msn.com (Nick Ware)
Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2023 12:05:57 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Fwd: Lime Grove nostalgia
In-Reply-To: <CWLP123MB6542AC1A102246E5349897CEC30EA@CWLP123MB6542.GBRP123.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
References: <CWLP123MB6542AC1A102246E5349897CEC30EA@CWLP123MB6542.GBRP123.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
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From Nick (see below)
Begin forwarded message:

From: Nick Ware <npware at outlook.com>
Date: 5 August 2023 at 13:02:30 BST
To:
Cc: waresound at msn.com
Subject: Lime Grove nostalgia

?
For those of us who were there, a little something you might recognise
Nick
Nick Ware, mips. Copper Beech, 5, Homewood, Cranleigh, Surrey, GU6 7HS
Email: npware at outlook.com<mailto:npware at outlook.com>. Mob: 07802 246088

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From graeme.wall at icloud.com  Sat Aug  5 12:15:52 2023
From: graeme.wall at icloud.com (Graeme Wall)
Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2023 18:15:52 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Lime Grove nostalgia
In-Reply-To: <AM9P191MB16049A97D8E12D7B13C0C810A70EA@AM9P191MB1604.EURP191.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
References: <CWLP123MB6542AC1A102246E5349897CEC30EA@CWLP123MB6542.GBRP123.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
	<AM9P191MB16049A97D8E12D7B13C0C810A70EA@AM9P191MB1604.EURP191.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
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Not heard that for many years!

> On 5 Aug 2023, at 13:05, Nick Ware via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> From Nick (see below)
> Begin forwarded message:
> 
>> From: Nick Ware <npware at outlook.com>
>> Date: 5 August 2023 at 13:02:30 BST
>> To:
>> Cc: waresound at msn.com
>> Subject: Lime Grove nostalgia
>> 
>> ?For those of us who were there, a little something you might recognise
>> Nick
>> Nick Ware, mips. Copper Beech, 5, Homewood, Cranleigh, Surrey, GU6 7HS
>> Email: npware at outlook.com. Mob: 07802 246088
>>  
> <Nationwide ident loop.mp3>-- 
> Tech1 mailing list
> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk


? 
Graeme Wall




From robert.miles at soundsuper.co.uk  Sun Aug  6 04:43:59 2023
From: robert.miles at soundsuper.co.uk (Robert Miles)
Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2023 10:43:59 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] I Claudius returns to BBC4
Message-ID: <001d01d9c84a$867267c0$93573740$@soundsuper.co.uk>

I Claudius returns to BBC4 on 16th August. Item on R4 this morning with Sir
Derek and Brian Blessed (attached).

 

Rob

 

 

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From waresound at msn.com  Sun Aug  6 12:19:50 2023
From: waresound at msn.com (Nick Ware)
Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2023 17:19:50 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Technical car boot sale or flea market
In-Reply-To: <4DA9E8EF-AEAD-4040-A3D3-1FCDE79B24AD@me.com>
References: <4DA9E8EF-AEAD-4040-A3D3-1FCDE79B24AD@me.com>
Message-ID: <AM9P191MB16041FCA4EB70CD6FE294F6AA70FA@AM9P191MB1604.EURP191.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>

The IPS holds occasional boot/van sales, though I don?t know of any planned at the moment. The last one (NW10, March 26th) was free for IPS and AMPS members, and available to non members of either for a small fee. As you might expect it?s a bit of a scavenger-fest, but I did manage to clear a lot of garage space and make a few hundred quid at that one. A good opportunity for a good old chinwag with like-minded folk too!
We also have a no commission Facebook (workplace) for-sale group and an IPS email for-sale list. If you would like to send me a list of your BB list items I might be able to post that ?on behalf of a friend?.
Cheers,
Nick Ware - sent from my iPad

> On 6 Aug 2023, at 17:19, Alan Taylor via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> ?I?m selling off most of my equipment now that I?ve retired.  The big name things will be going onto BB List, while selected items will be sold locally, but I?m still left with loads of stuff which is either too bulky for parcels, rather niche, or not valuable enough to justify carriage charges, but too good to throw away.
> 
> Do any of you know of any techie car boot sales or flea markets where odd bits of gear can find new owners?
> 
> Alan
> -- 
> Tech1 mailing list
> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk

From hughsnape at talktalk.net  Sun Aug  6 12:20:34 2023
From: hughsnape at talktalk.net (Hugh Snape)
Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2023 18:20:34 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] I Claudius returns to BBC4
In-Reply-To: <001d01d9c84a$867267c0$93573740$@soundsuper.co.uk>
References: <001d01d9c84a$867267c0$93573740$@soundsuper.co.uk>
Message-ID: <7C40370F-3487-4EF3-ADE4-689EF2BE49F5@talktalk.net>

It richly deserves to be re-shown. I hope there will be no censoring in light of today?s sensibilities . . .

Hugh Snape

> On 6 Aug 2023, at 14:39, Robert Miles via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> ?
> I Claudius returns to BBC4 on 16th August. Item on R4 this morning with Sir Derek and Brian Blessed (attached).
>  
> Rob
>  
>  
> -- 
> Tech1 mailing list
> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk
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From waresound at msn.com  Mon Aug  7 11:00:43 2023
From: waresound at msn.com (Nick Ware)
Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2023 16:00:43 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Change of email address
Message-ID: <AM9P191MB160427B6107A2A2B00D2F68FA70CA@AM9P191MB1604.EURP191.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>

Hi Bernie, if you or whoever is managing Tech1 at the moment could do me a small favour, please:
I?m wanting to ditch the waresound at msn.com email address that I?ve been using for tech1 email. The one to replace it is ware.nick at aol.com . Please, anyone who?s interested, make a note of that too. Also, for personal stuff, I have npware at outlook.com . Always glad to hear from old friends on either of these.
I?ve had the msn address since day 1 of email messaging, and can?t seem to stop it attracting 50 to 60 spam (and in some cases downright offensive junk). Time to quit that ASAP.
Bernie, your contributions here are sorely missed, and I do offer my sincerest best wishes for as good a recovery as possible.
Cheers,
Nick.
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From geoff.hawkes134 at gmail.com  Tue Aug  8 05:07:18 2023
From: geoff.hawkes134 at gmail.com (Geoffrey Hawkes)
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2023 11:07:18 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Tech-ops emailing lists
Message-ID: <7A9C720E-A8D9-42C0-B841-79382F7BF32F@gmail.com>

Dear All,
As you are probably aware, Bernie is unable to continue administering the emailing lists, ie the Tech-1 omnibus list for general chatter and the Announce list that just carries important news about our colleagues. I seem to remember that someone kindly agreed to take over the business of adding and subtracting names from these lists, or at least knows how it?s done. Bernie?s daughter, Charley says, ?My brother Robin and I will pick up tech-ops.co.uk when we can, but we have not worked out where the email lists are generated from/managed? and she has asked me to find out if someone can tell them how.
Please let me know if you have any information that would help as one of our old colleagues would like to be added to the Announce list if we can find out how,
Thanks,
Geoff Hawkes

From chris at chriswoolf.co.uk  Tue Aug  8 10:32:14 2023
From: chris at chriswoolf.co.uk (Chris Woolf)
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2023 16:32:14 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] I Claudius returns to BBC4
In-Reply-To: <7C40370F-3487-4EF3-ADE4-689EF2BE49F5@talktalk.net>
References: <001d01d9c84a$867267c0$93573740$@soundsuper.co.uk>
	<7C40370F-3487-4EF3-ADE4-689EF2BE49F5@talktalk.net>
Message-ID: <6de5424a-0c3b-2706-da6a-061d142bb889@chriswoolf.co.uk>

Indeed! Ridiculous how we've gone backwards as society.

A mixture of (misplaced) wokeness and fear of being sued for something 
or other.? The constraints in every walk of life are becoming quite mad.

Our broadband and phones? disappeared after storm whateveritwas the 
other day. The young OpenReach guy came searching for the break down in 
the valley, where a big oak standing on the edge of a stream had fallen, 
and taken out a phone pole conclusively. "I can't work within 5mt of a 
watercourse, and I can't stand near a felled tree, according to the 
rules," he said with a broad smile. "How the F*** am I supposed to mend 
this!"? He did, but only because he was alone and there was nobody to see.

Mind you the cable is now draped across bushes, and will maybe like that 
for ever, because there is nobody to put in new poles, saw up big trees, 
and dig out underground cable links.

Chris Woolf


On 06/08/2023 18:20, Hugh Snape via Tech1 wrote:
> It richly deserves to be re-shown. I hope there will be no censoring 
> in light of today?s sensibilities . . .
>
> Hugh Snape
>
>> On 6 Aug 2023, at 14:39, Robert Miles via Tech1 
>> <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>> ?
>>
>> I Claudius returns to BBC4 on 16^th August. Item on R4 this morning 
>> with Sir Derek and Brian Blessed (attached).
>>
>> Rob
>>
>
>> -- 
>> Tech1 mailing list
>> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
>> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk
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From billjenkin67 at gmail.com  Wed Aug  9 02:33:04 2023
From: billjenkin67 at gmail.com (Bill Jenkin)
Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2023 08:33:04 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Just testing
Message-ID: <CAE6tP4BQso7-_etnPk-L7Q+YN-2BWnmJWyTTL0s4F_syW-vZpA@mail.gmail.com>

I am probably not alone in wondering what has happened to the tech-ops
email group. So if anyone gets this please let me know.

Bill  Jenkin
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From waresound at msn.com  Wed Aug  9 03:37:16 2023
From: waresound at msn.com (Nick Ware)
Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2023 08:37:16 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Just wondering
Message-ID: <AM9P191MB1604D1BA2A19AF60BECD2E81A712A@AM9P191MB1604.EURP191.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>

Hi, all,
Just wondering if Tech1 is working or is it just me? Seems remarkably quiet.
Cheers, Nick.
Nick Ware - sent from my iPad


From geoff.hawkes134 at gmail.com  Wed Aug  9 05:13:56 2023
From: geoff.hawkes134 at gmail.com (geoff.hawkes134 at gmail.com)
Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2023 11:13:56 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Tech-Ops Emailing System
Message-ID: <001001d9caaa$3532e800$9f98b800$@gmail.com>

Dear All,

As you may be aware, Bernie is no longer able to run the emailing system
that we rely on to bring us news of our old colleagues on the Announce list
and exchange general chatter on Tech-1.

The family have asked if any of us know how the system works, ie how to add
or remove names from the two lists and any other admin needed to keep it
running smoothly.

I have a feeling that someone has already volunteered to take this job on
and if so, it would be good to know who.

If any of you have information that would help, please let me know and I
will pass it on,

Thanks,

Geoff Hawkes

PS, I tried sending a similar request a few days ago but so far have had no
response and didn't receive it myself, only a reply from Bounces to say that
the message had been received so I am wondering if it got through the filter

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From apts at apts.org.uk  Wed Aug  9 10:52:14 2023
From: apts at apts.org.uk (Simon Vaughan)
Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2023 16:52:14 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Yvonne Littlewood featured on BBC Radio 4's 'Last Word'
Message-ID: <AB89E6A8-AFA5-4EDE-BBA9-3A00182EF989@apts.org.uk>

For those that haven?t heard it yet, Yvonne was featured on BBC Radio 4?s obituary programme ?Last Word? on 4th August ? by coincidence, the same day as her funeral at West London Crematorium.

 
Should any member of Tech Ops want to view her funeral it is available for the next month on the following link - https://watch.obitus.com ? using the following log-in details: Username:? zexa2412, Password: 160097.
 
Nana Mouskouri was watching from Greece (and wrote a beautiful tribute, read out by the Celebrant), while Nana?s daughter attended in person.? Petula Clark watched from Switzerland, and Michael Emmerson from Mexico, while Geoff Hawes gave a wonderful eulogy of working with Yve.? 
 
It was a beautiful tribute to the first lady of BBC TV Light Entertainment, while a fantastic celebration was had at The Masons Arms afterwards.
 
 

Simon Vaughan

Archivist

for and on behalf of

Alexandra Palace Television Society

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Mob:      +44 (0)7791 780882

Email:     apts at apts.org.uk

Twitter:  https://twitter.com/APTSArchive

Web:      www.apts.org.uk

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From hughsnape at talktalk.net  Wed Aug  9 14:13:24 2023
From: hughsnape at talktalk.net (Hugh Snape)
Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2023 20:13:24 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Just wondering
In-Reply-To: <AM9P191MB1604D1BA2A19AF60BECD2E81A712A@AM9P191MB1604.EURP191.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
References: <AM9P191MB1604D1BA2A19AF60BECD2E81A712A@AM9P191MB1604.EURP191.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
Message-ID: <EB1478BA-A011-4398-A32B-700FA58CFD7F@talktalk.net>

Message received here,

Hugh

> On 9 Aug 2023, at 09:37, Nick Ware via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> Hi, all,
> Just wondering if Tech1 is working or is it just me? Seems remarkably quiet.
> Cheers, Nick.
> Nick Ware - sent from my iPad
> 
> -- 
> Tech1 mailing list
> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk



From paul at pgtmedia.co.uk  Thu Aug 10 05:44:10 2023
From: paul at pgtmedia.co.uk (paul at pgtmedia.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2023 11:44:10 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] FW: Tech-OPs Email System
In-Reply-To: <000201d9cb76$840415e0$8c0c41a0$@btinternet.com>
References: <000201d9cb76$840415e0$8c0c41a0$@btinternet.com>
Message-ID: <010301d9cb77$98bc3c00$ca34b400$@pgtmedia.co.uk>

Please see the message below from Geoff. For some reason. Hopefully anyone
with system knowledge or understanding will see this and be in touch 

 

Paul Thackray

 

PGT Media Consulting Ltd.

+44 7802 243979

Mail;  <mailto:paul at pgtmedia.co.uk> paul at pgtmedia.co.uk

 

Web;  <http://www.pgtmedia.co.uk> http://www.pgtmedia.co.uk

Linkedin;  <http://uk.linkedin.com/pub/paul-thackray/19/379/746>
http://uk.linkedin.com/pub/paul-thackray/19/379/746

IMDB;  <http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1488554/>
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1488554/

Subject: Tech-OPs Email System

 

Hi Paul, Thanks for getting in touch so quickly which is much appreciated.
I'll be very glad if there's anything you can do to help and sending out the
message below on my behalf would be a good start,

Regards,

Geoff

 

 

Dear All,

As you may be aware, Bernie is no longer able to run the emailing system
that we rely on to bring us news of our old colleagues on the Announce list
and exchange general chatter on Tech-1.

The family have asked if any of us know how the system works, ie how to add
or remove names from the two lists and any other admin needed to keep it
running smoothly.

I have a feeling that someone has already volunteered to take this job on
and if so, it would be good to know who.

If any of you have information that would help, please let me know and I
will pass it on,

Thanks,

Geoff Hawkes

PS, I tried sending a similar request a few days ago but so far have had no
response and didn't receive it myself, only a reply from Bounces to say that
the message had been received so I am wondering if it failed to pass through
the filter

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From paul at pgtmedia.co.uk  Thu Aug 10 11:03:01 2023
From: paul at pgtmedia.co.uk (paul at pgtmedia.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2023 17:03:01 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] I Claudius returns to BBC4
In-Reply-To: <7C40370F-3487-4EF3-ADE4-689EF2BE49F5@talktalk.net>
References: <001d01d9c84a$867267c0$93573740$@soundsuper.co.uk>
	<7C40370F-3487-4EF3-ADE4-689EF2BE49F5@talktalk.net>
Message-ID: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAuAAAAAAAAACSsg4AwmjxPsTxExn/qL5ABAMO2jhD3dRHOtM0AqgC7tuYAAAAAAA4AABAAAABHSu1X5M20TKyaIuiDgt09AQAAAAA=@pgtmedia.co.uk>

Both Geof & I have failed to send this message directly, Now trying a reply to an existing message?If you receive this and have an answer,, please let me know (Direct Email paul at pgtmedia.co.uk <mailto:paul at pgtmedia.co.uk> )  

 

Dear All,

As you may be aware, Bernie is no longer able to run the emailing system that we rely on to bring us news of our old colleagues on the Announce list and exchange general chatter on Tech-1.

The family have asked if any of us know how the system works, ie how to add or remove names from the two lists and any other admin needed to keep it running smoothly.

I have a feeling that someone has already volunteered to take this job on and if so, it would be good to know who.

If any of you have information that would help, please let me know and I will pass it on,

Thanks,

Geoff Hawkes

PS, I tried sending a similar request a few days ago but so far have had no response and didn?t receive it myself, only a reply from Bounces to say that the message had been received so I am wondering if it failed to pass through the filter

 

 

 

Paul Thackray

 

PGT Media Consulting Ltd.

+44 7802 243979

Mail;  <mailto:paul at pgtmedia.co.uk> paul at pgtmedia.co.uk

 

Web;  <http://www.pgtmedia.co.uk> http://www.pgtmedia.co.uk

Linkedin;  <http://uk.linkedin.com/pub/paul-thackray/19/379/746> http://uk.linkedin.com/pub/paul-thackray/19/379/746

IMDB;  <http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1488554/> http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1488554/

 

From: Tech1 <tech1-bounces at tech-ops.co.uk> On Behalf Of Hugh Snape via Tech1
Sent: 06 August 2023 18:21
To: Robert Miles <robert.miles at soundsuper.co.uk>
Cc: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
Subject: Re: [Tech1] I Claudius returns to BBC4

 

It richly deserves to be re-shown. I hope there will be no censoring in light of today?s sensibilities . . .

 

Hugh Snape





On 6 Aug 2023, at 14:39, Robert Miles via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk <mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> > wrote:

?

I Claudius returns to BBC4 on 16th August. Item on R4 this morning with Sir Derek and Brian Blessed (attached).

 

Rob

 

 

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From dnewbitt at fireflyuk.net  Thu Aug 10 12:57:23 2023
From: dnewbitt at fireflyuk.net (David Newbitt)
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2023 18:57:23 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] I Claudius returns to BBC4
In-Reply-To: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAuAAAAAAAAACSsg4AwmjxPsTxExn/qL5ABAMO2jhD3dRHOtM0AqgC7tuYAAAAAAA4AABAAAABHSu1X5M20TKyaIuiDgt09AQAAAAA=@pgtmedia.co.uk>
References: <001d01d9c84a$867267c0$93573740$@soundsuper.co.uk><7C40370F-3487-4EF3-ADE4-689EF2BE49F5@talktalk.net>
	<!&!AAAAAAAAAAAuAAAAAAAAACSsg4AwmjxPsTxExn/qL5ABAMO2jhD3dRHOtM0AqgC7tuYAAAAAAA4AABAAAABHSu1X5M20TKyaIuiDgt09AQAAAAA=@pgtmedia.co.uk>
Message-ID: <9E4AA1460F7144DC9B9C569F8240F4BB@DESKTOP6GGCRV1>

Hi Paul,

Can?t answer the fundamental query but Geoff and yourself might like to know what is being received in at least some instances.

The message commencing ?Dear All, As you may be aware, Bernie.....? shows on the Archive as having been sent:-

Aug 8th   05.07 by Geoff
Aug 9th   11.14 by Geoff
Aug 10th 10.05 by yourself
Aug 10th 11.03 by yourself

I received items 2 & 4 but not 1 & 3.

There have been occasions these last few weeks when my posts have produced the Tech 1 post acknowledgement (bounces) to my inbox many hours after I sent them whereas previously it would have been no more than a minute or two. Like Nick I have sensed a significant reduction in apparent activity ? as I write there are just 19 entries in the August archive and clearly a number of those have not reached all the membership, if any.

Dave Newbitt.



From: paul--- via Tech1 
Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2023 5:03 PM
To: 'Hugh Snape' ; 'Robert Miles' ; Geoff Hawkes 
Cc: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk 
Subject: Re: [Tech1] I Claudius returns to BBC4

Both Geof & I have failed to send this message directly, Now trying a reply to an existing message?If you receive this and have an answer,, please let me know (Direct Email paul at pgtmedia.co.uk)  

 

Dear All,

As you may be aware, Bernie is no longer able to run the emailing system that we rely on to bring us news of our old colleagues on the Announce list and exchange general chatter on Tech-1.

The family have asked if any of us know how the system works, ie how to add or remove names from the two lists and any other admin needed to keep it running smoothly.

I have a feeling that someone has already volunteered to take this job on and if so, it would be good to know who.

If any of you have information that would help, please let me know and I will pass it on,

Thanks,

Geoff Hawkes

PS, I tried sending a similar request a few days ago but so far have had no response and didn?t receive it myself, only a reply from Bounces to say that the message had been received so I am wondering if it failed to pass through the filter

 

 

 

Paul Thackray

 

PGT Media Consulting Ltd.

+44 7802 243979

Mail; paul at pgtmedia.co.uk

 

Web; http://www.pgtmedia.co.uk

Linkedin; http://uk.linkedin.com/pub/paul-thackray/19/379/746

IMDB; http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1488554/

 

From: Tech1 <tech1-bounces at tech-ops.co.uk> On Behalf Of Hugh Snape via Tech1
Sent: 06 August 2023 18:21
To: Robert Miles <robert.miles at soundsuper.co.uk>
Cc: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
Subject: Re: [Tech1] I Claudius returns to BBC4

 

It richly deserves to be re-shown. I hope there will be no censoring in light of today?s sensibilities . . .

 

Hugh Snape





  On 6 Aug 2023, at 14:39, Robert Miles via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:

  ?

  I Claudius returns to BBC4 on 16th August. Item on R4 this morning with Sir Derek and Brian Blessed (attached).

   

  Rob

   

   



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From dnewbitt at fireflyuk.net  Thu Aug 10 13:02:05 2023
From: dnewbitt at fireflyuk.net (David Newbitt)
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2023 19:02:05 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] I Claudius returns to BBC4
In-Reply-To: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAuAAAAAAAAACSsg4AwmjxPsTxExn/qL5ABAMO2jhD3dRHOtM0AqgC7tuYAAAAAAA4AABAAAABHSu1X5M20TKyaIuiDgt09AQAAAAA=@pgtmedia.co.uk>
References: <001d01d9c84a$867267c0$93573740$@soundsuper.co.uk><7C40370F-3487-4EF3-ADE4-689EF2BE49F5@talktalk.net>
	<!&!AAAAAAAAAAAuAAAAAAAAACSsg4AwmjxPsTxExn/qL5ABAMO2jhD3dRHOtM0AqgC7tuYAAAAAAA4AABAAAABHSu1X5M20TKyaIuiDgt09AQAAAAA=@pgtmedia.co.uk>
Message-ID: <7E68C47B76A64C21A8D70E1E606612D2@DESKTOP6GGCRV1>

My first reply to this message sent a few minutes ago produced quick success responses EXCEPT that a Mail Delivery Subsystem  message showed that there was a delivery failure to Geoff Hawkes.

Dave Newbitt.

From: paul--- via Tech1 
Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2023 5:03 PM
To: 'Hugh Snape' ; 'Robert Miles' ; Geoff Hawkes 
Cc: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk 
Subject: Re: [Tech1] I Claudius returns to BBC4

Both Geof & I have failed to send this message directly, Now trying a reply to an existing message?If you receive this and have an answer,, please let me know (Direct Email paul at pgtmedia.co.uk)  

 

Dear All,

As you may be aware, Bernie is no longer able to run the emailing system that we rely on to bring us news of our old colleagues on the Announce list and exchange general chatter on Tech-1.

The family have asked if any of us know how the system works, ie how to add or remove names from the two lists and any other admin needed to keep it running smoothly.

I have a feeling that someone has already volunteered to take this job on and if so, it would be good to know who.

If any of you have information that would help, please let me know and I will pass it on,

Thanks,

Geoff Hawkes

PS, I tried sending a similar request a few days ago but so far have had no response and didn?t receive it myself, only a reply from Bounces to say that the message had been received so I am wondering if it failed to pass through the filter

 

 

 

Paul Thackray

 

PGT Media Consulting Ltd.

+44 7802 243979

Mail; paul at pgtmedia.co.uk

 

Web; http://www.pgtmedia.co.uk

Linkedin; http://uk.linkedin.com/pub/paul-thackray/19/379/746

IMDB; http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1488554/

 

From: Tech1 <tech1-bounces at tech-ops.co.uk> On Behalf Of Hugh Snape via Tech1
Sent: 06 August 2023 18:21
To: Robert Miles <robert.miles at soundsuper.co.uk>
Cc: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
Subject: Re: [Tech1] I Claudius returns to BBC4

 

It richly deserves to be re-shown. I hope there will be no censoring in light of today?s sensibilities . . .

 

Hugh Snape





  On 6 Aug 2023, at 14:39, Robert Miles via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:

  ?

  I Claudius returns to BBC4 on 16th August. Item on R4 this morning with Sir Derek and Brian Blessed (attached).

   

  Rob

   

   



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From paul at pgtmedia.co.uk  Thu Aug 10 14:39:14 2023
From: paul at pgtmedia.co.uk (paul at pgtmedia.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2023 20:39:14 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] I Claudius returns to BBC4
In-Reply-To: <7E68C47B76A64C21A8D70E1E606612D2@DESKTOP6GGCRV1>
Message-ID: <4n3uahrcuhkl6laeoctakr8q.1691696354059@pgtmedia.co.uk>

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From dnewbitt at fireflyuk.net  Fri Aug 11 01:25:50 2023
From: dnewbitt at fireflyuk.net (David Newbitt)
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2023 07:25:50 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] I Claudius returns to BBC4
In-Reply-To: <4n3uahrcuhkl6laeoctakr8q.1691696354059@pgtmedia.co.uk>
References: <4n3uahrcuhkl6laeoctakr8q.1691696354059@pgtmedia.co.uk>
Message-ID: <A8BE92F022ED4E35BE8E4ABF3B437D64@DESKTOP6GGCRV1>

Interesting timings Paul. I got this latest message of yours via both routes. Direct from your own email at 20.39 Aug 10th then via tech1 almost 5 hours later at 01.19 today Aug 11th.

Reinforces my earlier comments about delays.

Dave Newbitt.

From: paul--- via Tech1 
Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2023 8:39 PM
To: ; 'Hugh Snape' ; Rob Miles ; Geoff Hawkes ; 'Geoffrey Hawkes' 
Cc: Tech 1 ; dnewbitt at fireflyuk.net 
Subject: Re: [Tech1] I Claudius returns to BBC4

The issue with Geoff is my fault. I picked an old addresss for him. It interesting you are still getting tech1 messages. Most people are not.I have this direct from you but not via tech 1I do not know Burnie well enough to guess who he would have told about the system (if anyone)
Paul Thackray



PGT Media Consulting Ltd.

+44 7802 243979

Mail; paul at pgtmedia.co.uk



Web; http://www.pgtmedia.co.uk

Linkedin; http://uk.linkedin.com/pub/paul-thackray/19/379/746

IMDB; http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1488554/

      From: dnewbitt at fireflyuk.net
      Sent: 10 August 2023 19:02
      To: paul at pgtmedia.co.uk; hughsnape at talktalk.net; robert.miles at soundsuper.co.uk; geoff.hawkes at bbc.co.uk
      Cc: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk; dnewbitt at fireflyuk.net
      Subject: Re: [Tech1] I Claudius returns to BBC4 


My first reply to this message sent a few minutes ago produced quick success responses EXCEPT that a Mail Delivery Subsystem  message showed that there was a delivery failure to Geoff Hawkes.

Dave Newbitt.

From: paul--- via Tech1 
Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2023 5:03 PM
To: 'Hugh Snape' ; 'Robert Miles' ; Geoff Hawkes 
Cc: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
Subject: Re: [Tech1] I Claudius returns to BBC4

Both Geof & I have failed to send this message directly, Now trying a reply to an existing message?If you receive this and have an answer,, please let me know (Direct Email paul at pgtmedia.co.uk) 



Dear All,

As you may be aware, Bernie is no longer able to run the emailing system that we rely on to bring us news of our old colleagues on the Announce list and exchange general chatter on Tech-1.

The family have asked if any of us know how the system works, ie how to add or remove names from the two lists and any other admin needed to keep it running smoothly.

I have a feeling that someone has already volunteered to take this job on and if so, it would be good to know who.

If any of you have information that would help, please let me know and I will pass it on,

Thanks,

Geoff Hawkes

PS, I tried sending a similar request a few days ago but so far have had no response and didn?t receive it myself, only a reply from Bounces to say that the message had been received so I am wondering if it failed to pass through the filter







Paul Thackray



PGT Media Consulting Ltd.

+44 7802 243979

Mail; paul at pgtmedia.co.uk



Web; http://www.pgtmedia.co.uk

Linkedin; http://uk.linkedin.com/pub/paul-thackray/19/379/746

IMDB; http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1488554/



From: Tech1 <tech1-bounces at tech-ops.co.uk>On Behalf Of Hugh Snape via Tech1
Sent: 06 August 2023 18:21
To: Robert Miles <robert.miles at soundsuper.co.uk>
Cc: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
Subject: Re: [Tech1] I Claudius returns to BBC4



It richly deserves to be re-shown. I hope there will be no censoring in light of today?s sensibilities . . .



Hugh Snape





  On 6 Aug 2023, at 14:39, Robert   Miles via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:

  ?

  I Claudius returns to BBC4 on 16th August. Item on R4 this morning with Sir Derek and Brian Blessed (attached).



  Rob






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From billjenkin67 at gmail.com  Fri Aug 11 02:28:44 2023
From: billjenkin67 at gmail.com (Bill Jenkin)
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2023 08:28:44 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] I Claudius returns to BBC4
In-Reply-To: <A8BE92F022ED4E35BE8E4ABF3B437D64@DESKTOP6GGCRV1>
References: <4n3uahrcuhkl6laeoctakr8q.1691696354059@pgtmedia.co.uk>
	<A8BE92F022ED4E35BE8E4ABF3B437D64@DESKTOP6GGCRV1>
Message-ID: <CAE6tP4CRutcX-1o2585O3PFOokwN6ZhbC3H3RQP0Yzks9uJ7ww@mail.gmail.com>

Wow, this is the first post I have received via the tech1 email address
since 13th July!
Bill Jenkin


On Fri, Aug 11, 2023 at 7:30?AM David Newbitt via Tech1 <
tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:

> Interesting timings Paul. I got this latest message of yours via both
> routes. Direct from your own email at 20.39 Aug 10th then via tech1 almost
> 5 hours later at 01.19 today Aug 11th.
>
> Reinforces my earlier comments about delays.
>
> Dave Newbitt.
>
> *From:* paul--- via Tech1
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 10, 2023 8:39 PM
> *To:* ; 'Hugh Snape' ; Rob Miles ; Geoff Hawkes ; 'Geoffrey Hawkes'
> *Cc:* Tech 1 ; dnewbitt at fireflyuk.net
> *Subject:* Re: [Tech1] I Claudius returns to BBC4
>
> The issue with Geoff is my fault. I picked an old addresss for him. It
> interesting you are still getting tech1 messages. Most people are not.
> I have this direct from you but not via tech 1
> I do not know Burnie well enough to guess who he would have told about the
> system (if anyone)
>
> Paul Thackray
>
>
>
> PGT Media Consulting Ltd.
>
> +44 7802 243979 <+447802243979>
>
> Mail; paul at pgtmedia.co.uk
>
>
>
> Web; http://www.pgtmedia.co.uk
>
> Linkedin; http://uk.linkedin.com/pub/paul-thackray/19/379/746
>
> IMDB; http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1488554/
> *From:* dnewbitt at fireflyuk.net
> *Sent:* 10 August 2023 19:02
> *To:* paul at pgtmedia.co.uk; hughsnape at talktalk.net;
> robert.miles at soundsuper.co.uk; geoff.hawkes at bbc.co.uk
> *Cc:* tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk; dnewbitt at fireflyuk.net
> *Subject:* Re: [Tech1] I Claudius returns to BBC4
>
> My first reply to this message sent a few minutes ago produced quick
> success responses EXCEPT that a Mail Delivery Subsystem  message showed
> that there was a delivery failure to Geoff Hawkes.
>
> Dave Newbitt.
>
> *From:* paul--- via Tech1
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 10, 2023 5:03 PM
> *To:* 'Hugh Snape' ; 'Robert Miles' ; Geoff Hawkes
> *Cc:* tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
> *Subject:* Re: [Tech1] I Claudius returns to BBC4
>
>
> Both Geof & I have failed to send this message directly, Now trying a
> reply to an existing message?If you receive this and have an answer,,
> please let me know (Direct Email paul at pgtmedia.co.uk)
>
>
>
> Dear All,
>
> As you may be aware, Bernie is no longer able to run the emailing system
> that we rely on to bring us news of our old colleagues on the Announce list
> and exchange general chatter on Tech-1.
>
> The family have asked if any of us know how the system works, ie how to
> add or remove names from the two lists and any other admin needed to keep
> it running smoothly.
>
> I have a feeling that someone has already volunteered to take this job on
> and if so, it would be good to know who.
>
> If any of you have information that would help, please let me know and I
> will pass it on,
>
> Thanks,
>
> *Geoff Hawkes*
>
> PS, I tried sending a similar request a few days ago but so far have had
> no response and didn?t receive it myself, only a reply from Bounces to say
> that the message had been received so I am wondering if it failed to pass
> through the filter
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Paul Thackray
>
>
>
> PGT Media Consulting Ltd.
>
> +44 7802 243979
>
> Mail; paul at pgtmedia.co.uk
>
>
>
> Web; http://www.pgtmedia.co.uk
>
> Linkedin; http://uk.linkedin.com/pub/paul-thackray/19/379/746
>
> IMDB; http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1488554/
>
>
>
> *From:* Tech1 <tech1-bounces at tech-ops.co.uk>*On Behalf Of *Hugh Snape via
> Tech1
> *Sent:* 06 August 2023 18:21
> *To:* Robert Miles <robert.miles at soundsuper.co.uk>
> *Cc:* tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
> *Subject:* Re: [Tech1] I Claudius returns to BBC4
>
>
>
> It richly deserves to be re-shown. I hope there will be no censoring in
> light of today?s sensibilities . . .
>
>
>
> Hugh Snape
>
>
>
> On 6 Aug 2023, at 14:39, Robert   Miles via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
> ?
>
> I Claudius returns to BBC4 on 16th August. Item on R4 this morning with
> Sir Derek and Brian Blessed (attached).
>
>
>
> Rob
>
>
>
>
>
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From paul at pgtmedia.co.uk  Fri Aug 11 05:17:32 2023
From: paul at pgtmedia.co.uk (paul at pgtmedia.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2023 11:17:32 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] A new topic
Message-ID: <002201d9cc3d$0ade4330$209ac990$@pgtmedia.co.uk>

 

 

Paul Thackray

 

PGT Media Consulting Ltd.

+44 7802 243979

Mail;  <mailto:paul at pgtmedia.co.uk> paul at pgtmedia.co.uk

 

Web;  <http://www.pgtmedia.co.uk> http://www.pgtmedia.co.uk

Linkedin;  <http://uk.linkedin.com/pub/paul-thackray/19/379/746>
http://uk.linkedin.com/pub/paul-thackray/19/379/746

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http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1488554/

 

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From plowmandave44 at gmail.com  Fri Aug 11 06:53:10 2023
From: plowmandave44 at gmail.com (Dave Plowman)
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2023 12:53:10 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] A researcher called.
Message-ID: <616ea4c7-b966-fea5-de7b-01de1a3ed651@gmail.com>

Is it just me, or has it all gone very quiet here? Last post I've 
received dated 13/07.

But a TV related story. Doorbell rang yesterday. Young lady. "We're 
filming down this street" Immediate thoughts were they wanted my car 
moved. Or - with luck - wanted to pay me for something. But no - she 
went on to say "We are looking for neighbours to do a piece to camera 
about the renovation at number **"  Which I can't say I'd noticed, given 
there is always work going on at one house or other on this Victorian 
street. And she asked if I'd like to have a look. Not sure of the prog 
name, but she said it was for CH4.

I followed her along the road to have a look. First impressions bad. 
Cheap UPVC windows and front door. Inside a real IKEA special - 
everything grey or white. Including the mock wood floors. Fitted 
cupboards everywhere, ruining the style of a Victorian house. The 
cheapest Screwfix bathroom suite and sockets, etc. The only original 
bits left were the wall panelling in the hall, and the cornice there. 
All painted white, of course. Every other room had the fireplaces and 
cornicing removed (if of course it still existed before the renovations)

Was introduced to the 'producer' Had a nice chat but declined the 
interview - since I'd have had little positive to say, but could guess 
what they'd do in the edit.

I left feeing very old.

-- 
Dave Plowman
London, SW


From dnewbitt at fireflyuk.net  Fri Aug 11 09:43:42 2023
From: dnewbitt at fireflyuk.net (David Newbitt)
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2023 15:43:42 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] [Announce] I think this is no longer working for anyone?
In-Reply-To: <76d1k3kn1b5al9b9p0e4jc0b.1691758703146@pgtmedia.co.uk>
References: <76d1k3kn1b5al9b9p0e4jc0b.1691758703146@pgtmedia.co.uk>
Message-ID: <BDE6EA061B33457A82DDA3140260A361@DESKTOP6GGCRV1>

Am I the favoured one today? I did get this message of Paul?s on the ?Announce? facility. However back on the Tech 1 forum neither of the two messages (visible on the Archive as following Bill Jenkin?s ?cri de coeur?) has come to my inbox as yet. These were from Paul showing on the Archive timed 05.17 and Dave Plowman showing 06.53.

These times (and others I have referred to previously) seem a touch suspicious.

It is clearly difficult to have a forum debate on this issue when nobody knows who, if anyone, is getting the benefit of their input.

Best to all (however few that may be!),

Dave Newbitt.

From: paul--- via Announce 
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2023 1:58 PM
To: 'TechOps Announce' 
Subject: [Announce] I think this is no longer working for anyone?







Paul Thackray



PGT Media Consulting Ltd.

+44 7802 243979

Mail; paul at pgtmedia.co.uk



Web; http://www.pgtmedia.co.uk

Linkedin; http://uk.linkedin.com/pub/paul-thackray/19/379/746

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From alec.bray.2 at gmail.com  Fri Aug 11 09:52:40 2023
From: alec.bray.2 at gmail.com (Alec Bray)
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2023 15:52:40 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Tech 1 Email.
In-Reply-To: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAuAAAAAAAAACSsg4AwmjxPsTxExn/qL5ABAMO2jhD3dRHOtM0AqgC7tuYAAAAAAA4AABAAAAD7WdHroGDRSLgkZGb5IgMbAQAAAAA=@pgtmedia.co.uk>
References: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAuAAAAAAAAACSsg4AwmjxPsTxExn/qL5ABAMO2jhD3dRHOtM0AqgC7tuYAAAAAAA4AABAAAAD7WdHroGDRSLgkZGb5IgMbAQAAAAA=@pgtmedia.co.uk>
Message-ID: <CAA0HHB3Tp8dzcQ2RP0m8965iF7WVFze62hfmC2tu7ZwzC+JTGg@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Paul,

Thank you for your email. I had been wondering about lack of emails!

I had admin privileges for the BBC Tech Ops website (now passed to Alan),
but this did not extend to the email system.  AFAIK the only admin for the
email system was Bernie himself - and as you say, we don't want to bother
his family...

Best regards to you (and all Tech Ops people)

Alec

Sent from my mobile phone. Apologies for any strange autocorrections...

On Fri, 11 Aug 2023, 15:27 , <paul at pgtmedia.co.uk> wrote:

> The Tech 1 discuss email is only occasionally passing messages to a few
> people at random. The Announce list does not appear to work ever now!
>
>
>
> This Email has gone to those I believe are on the discuss list. Bernie is
> unfortunately not able to help and its not something we wish to bother his
> family with any time soon.
>
> Just wondering if Bernie has given anyone in the group ?admin? privileges
> or log in / password etc. I know ?bills? are already paid for some time,
> but not sure if anyone had discussed ?admin?? (Other than the half a dozen
> I have been in contact with in the last few days.
>
>
>
> The BCC on this email is the ?discuss? list I have managed to extract from
> the server. I cannot see an ?announce? list at all
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> Paul Thackray
>
>
>
> PGT Media Consulting Ltd.
>
> +44 7802 243979
>
> Mail; paul at pgtmedia.co.uk
>
>
>
> Web; http://www.pgtmedia.co.uk
>
> Linkedin; http://uk.linkedin.com/pub/paul-thackray/19/379/746
>
> IMDB; http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1488554/
>
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From dnewbitt at fireflyuk.net  Fri Aug 11 11:20:18 2023
From: dnewbitt at fireflyuk.net (David Newbitt)
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2023 17:20:18 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] [Announce] I think this is no longer working for anyone?
In-Reply-To: <BDE6EA061B33457A82DDA3140260A361@DESKTOP6GGCRV1>
References: <76d1k3kn1b5al9b9p0e4jc0b.1691758703146@pgtmedia.co.uk>
	<BDE6EA061B33457A82DDA3140260A361@DESKTOP6GGCRV1>
Message-ID: <D5D4C9CD51EE4417B9A693B406DFC160@DESKTOP6GGCRV1>

At risk of boring  everyone to death I see that since my previous message below, probably within the last hour, a message from Alec has appeared as the most recent entry on the Archive, albeit timed at 09.52 this morning. It has not (yet?) appeared in my inbox.

Dave Newbitt.

From: David Newbitt 
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2023 3:43 PM
To: paul at pgtmedia.co.uk ; 'TechOps Announce' ; tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk 
Cc: dnewbitt at fireflyuk.net 
Subject: Re: [Announce] I think this is no longer working for anyone?

Am I the favoured one today? I did get this message of Paul?s on the ?Announce? facility. However back on the Tech 1 forum neither of the two messages (visible on the Archive as following Bill Jenkin?s ?cri de coeur?) has come to my inbox as yet. These were from Paul showing on the Archive timed 05.17 and Dave Plowman showing 06.53.

These times (and others I have referred to previously) seem a touch suspicious.

It is clearly difficult to have a forum debate on this issue when nobody knows who, if anyone, is getting the benefit of their input.

Best to all (however few that may be!),

Dave Newbitt.

From: paul--- via Announce 
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2023 1:58 PM
To: 'TechOps Announce' 
Subject: [Announce] I think this is no longer working for anyone?







Paul Thackray



PGT Media Consulting Ltd.

+44 7802 243979

Mail; paul at pgtmedia.co.uk



Web; http://www.pgtmedia.co.uk

Linkedin; http://uk.linkedin.com/pub/paul-thackray/19/379/746

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From j at howell61.f9.co.uk  Fri Aug 11 13:50:19 2023
From: j at howell61.f9.co.uk (John Howell)
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2023 19:50:19 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Just wondering
In-Reply-To: <AM9P191MB1604D1BA2A19AF60BECD2E81A712A@AM9P191MB1604.EURP191.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
References: <AM9P191MB1604D1BA2A19AF60BECD2E81A712A@AM9P191MB1604.EURP191.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
Message-ID: <0B1D11FA-7AA5-4D0E-B53B-918944952DCE@howell61.f9.co.uk>


Yes Nick, very few  getting to me just yourself, Pawl Thack, Chris Woolf, Hugh Snape, Alan Taylor, Geoffrey Hawkes, no others since 31st July.

I wonder what's going on?

John H.


> On 9 Aug 2023, at 09:37, Nick Ware via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> Hi, all,
> Just wondering if Tech1 is working or is it just me? Seems remarkably quiet.
> Cheers, Nick.
> Nick Ware - sent from my iPad
> 
> -- 
> Tech1 mailing list
> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk



From j at howell61.f9.co.uk  Fri Aug 11 14:00:37 2023
From: j at howell61.f9.co.uk (John Howell)
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2023 20:00:37 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Just wondering
In-Reply-To: <0B1D11FA-7AA5-4D0E-B53B-918944952DCE@howell61.f9.co.uk>
References: <AM9P191MB1604D1BA2A19AF60BECD2E81A712A@AM9P191MB1604.EURP191.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
	<0B1D11FA-7AA5-4D0E-B53B-918944952DCE@howell61.f9.co.uk>
Message-ID: <926B280B-C7D2-4305-BA3D-8F834252ADC1@howell61.f9.co.uk>

Further to my previous email, that didn't appear copied back to me from the group. It was in my 'sent items' folder. We'll see what happens this time!

John H.

> On 11 Aug 2023, at 19:50, John Howell <j at howell61.f9.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> 
> Yes Nick, very few  getting to me just yourself, Pawl Thack, Chris Woolf, Hugh Snape, Alan Taylor, Geoffrey Hawkes, no others since 31st July.
> 
> I wonder what's going on?
> 
> John H.
> 
> 
>> On 9 Aug 2023, at 09:37, Nick Ware via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi, all,
>> Just wondering if Tech1 is working or is it just me? Seems remarkably quiet.
>> Cheers, Nick.
>> Nick Ware - sent from my iPad
>> 
>> -- 
>> Tech1 mailing list
>> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
>> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk



From tony.briselden at gmail.com  Sat Aug 12 05:07:16 2023
From: tony.briselden at gmail.com (Tony Briselden)
Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2023 11:07:16 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Test email
Message-ID: <3A843AD2-D005-4F8A-B2FB-3BC2E265AFE2@gmail.com>

Before receiving Paul Thackray?s letter I had not been receiving anything from Tech Ops. Paul?s email worried me as clearly there is a major problem. If anyone sees this perhaps you would be good enough to let me know to my personal email address as well as by Tech Ops.   Hope I get a response of some sort either way!!

Tony B

From alec.bray.2 at gmail.com  Sat Aug 12 05:25:03 2023
From: alec.bray.2 at gmail.com (Alec Bray)
Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2023 11:25:03 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Tech 1 Email.
In-Reply-To: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAuAAAAAAAAACSsg4AwmjxPsTxExn/qL5ABAMO2jhD3dRHOtM0AqgC7tuYAAAAAAA4AABAAAAD7WdHroGDRSLgkZGb5IgMbAQAAAAA=@pgtmedia.co.uk>
References: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAuAAAAAAAAACSsg4AwmjxPsTxExn/qL5ABAMO2jhD3dRHOtM0AqgC7tuYAAAAAAA4AABAAAAD7WdHroGDRSLgkZGb5IgMbAQAAAAA=@pgtmedia.co.uk>
Message-ID: <f75cd781-5581-f0d4-d335-e4db9ae7ca56@gmail.com>

Hi all,

Following Paul's message about the Tech Ops email, I had a quick look on 
the tech ops email archive - this is located at

tech-ops.co.uk

The Tech1 Archives <about:blank?compose#>

? http://tech-ops.co.uk/pipermail/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk/ 
<http://tech-ops.co.uk/pipermail/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk/>

 ?- and I have received NONE of the messages dated August! Looking 
through the info on the archive site, there is this information:

Tech1 <http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk> list 
run by tech1-owner at tech-ops.co.uk <mailto:tech1-owner at tech-ops.co.uk>
Tech1 administrative interface 
<http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/admin/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk> (requires 
authorization)
Overview of all tech-ops.co.uk mailing lists 
<http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo>

I am guessing that Bernie is tech1-owner at Tech-ops.co.uk.


I have some email addresses and so some people are in the BCC list.


BTW I have missed seeing all your emails - here is the list of messages 
received at the Tech Ops email archives for August but not necessarily 
received by you!


*Messages:* 31

  * [Tech1] Zoom audio
    <http://tech-ops.co.uk/pipermail/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk/2023-August/016775.html>/Alan
    Taylor /
      o [Tech1] Zoom audio
        <http://tech-ops.co.uk/pipermail/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk/2023-August/016777.html>/Graeme
        Wall /
  * [Tech1] Technical car boot sale or flea market
    <http://tech-ops.co.uk/pipermail/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk/2023-August/016776.html>/Alan
    Taylor /
      o [Tech1] Technical car boot sale or flea market
        <http://tech-ops.co.uk/pipermail/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk/2023-August/016782.html>/Nick
        Ware /
  * [Tech1] Yvonne Littlewood Obit on R4
    <http://tech-ops.co.uk/pipermail/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk/2023-August/016778.html>/Robert
    Miles /
  * [Tech1] Fwd: Lime Grove nostalgia
    <http://tech-ops.co.uk/pipermail/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk/2023-August/016779.html>/Nick
    Ware /
      o [Tech1] Lime Grove nostalgia
        <http://tech-ops.co.uk/pipermail/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk/2023-August/016780.html>/Graeme
        Wall /
  * [Tech1] I Claudius returns to BBC4
    <http://tech-ops.co.uk/pipermail/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk/2023-August/016781.html>/Robert
    Miles /
      o [Tech1] I Claudius returns to BBC4
        <http://tech-ops.co.uk/pipermail/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk/2023-August/016783.html>/Hugh
        Snape /
          + [Tech1] I Claudius returns to BBC4
            <http://tech-ops.co.uk/pipermail/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk/2023-August/016786.html>/Chris
            Woolf /
          + [Tech1] I Claudius returns to BBC4
            <http://tech-ops.co.uk/pipermail/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk/2023-August/016793.html>/paul
            at pgtmedia.co.uk /
              # [Tech1] I Claudius returns to BBC4
                <http://tech-ops.co.uk/pipermail/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk/2023-August/016794.html>/David
                Newbitt /
              # [Tech1] I Claudius returns to BBC4
                <http://tech-ops.co.uk/pipermail/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk/2023-August/016795.html>/David
                Newbitt /
              # [Tech1] I Claudius returns to BBC4
                <http://tech-ops.co.uk/pipermail/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk/2023-August/016796.html>/paul
                at pgtmedia.co.uk /
              # [Tech1] I Claudius returns to BBC4
                <http://tech-ops.co.uk/pipermail/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk/2023-August/016797.html>/David
                Newbitt /
              # [Tech1] I Claudius returns to BBC4
                <http://tech-ops.co.uk/pipermail/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk/2023-August/016798.html>/Bill
                Jenkin /
  * [Tech1] Change of email address
    <http://tech-ops.co.uk/pipermail/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk/2023-August/016784.html>/Nick
    Ware /
  * [Tech1] Tech-ops emailing lists
    <http://tech-ops.co.uk/pipermail/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk/2023-August/016785.html>/Geoffrey
    Hawkes /
  * [Tech1] Just testing
    <http://tech-ops.co.uk/pipermail/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk/2023-August/016787.html>/Bill
    Jenkin /
  * [Tech1] Just wondering
    <http://tech-ops.co.uk/pipermail/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk/2023-August/016788.html>/Nick
    Ware /
      o [Tech1] Just wondering
        <http://tech-ops.co.uk/pipermail/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk/2023-August/016791.html>/Hugh
        Snape /
      o [Tech1] Just wondering
        <http://tech-ops.co.uk/pipermail/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk/2023-August/016804.html>/John
        Howell /
          + [Tech1] Just wondering
            <http://tech-ops.co.uk/pipermail/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk/2023-August/016805.html>/John
            Howell /
  * [Tech1] Tech-Ops Emailing System
    <http://tech-ops.co.uk/pipermail/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk/2023-August/016789.html>/geoff.hawkes134
    at gmail.com /
  * [Tech1] Yvonne Littlewood featured on BBC Radio 4's 'Last Word'
    <http://tech-ops.co.uk/pipermail/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk/2023-August/016790.html>/Simon
    Vaughan /
  * [Tech1] FW: Tech-OPs Email System
    <http://tech-ops.co.uk/pipermail/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk/2023-August/016792.html>/paul
    at pgtmedia.co.uk /
  * [Tech1] A new topic
    <http://tech-ops.co.uk/pipermail/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk/2023-August/016799.html>/paul
    at pgtmedia.co.uk /
  * [Tech1] A researcher called.
    <http://tech-ops.co.uk/pipermail/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk/2023-August/016800.html>/Dave
    Plowman /
  * [Tech1] [Announce] I think this is no longer working for anyone?
    <http://tech-ops.co.uk/pipermail/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk/2023-August/016801.html>/David
    Newbitt /
      o [Tech1] [Announce] I think this is no longer working for anyone?
        <http://tech-ops.co.uk/pipermail/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk/2023-August/016803.html>/David
        Newbitt /
  * [Tech1] Tech 1 Email.
    <http://tech-ops.co.uk/pipermail/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk/2023-August/016802.html>/Alec
    Bray /



I hope that this is useful to you!

Best regards,

Alec


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From mike.felton at mac.com  Sat Aug 12 06:13:50 2023
From: mike.felton at mac.com (Mike Felton)
Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2023 12:13:50 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Technical car boot sale or flea market
In-Reply-To: <4DA9E8EF-AEAD-4040-A3D3-1FCDE79B24AD@me.com>
References: <4DA9E8EF-AEAD-4040-A3D3-1FCDE79B24AD@me.com>
Message-ID: <354D0E65-2714-4323-A335-9F902A61DEED@mac.com>

The IPS holds a ?Van Boot Sale? now and then, the last was March this year. We haven?t got one planned at the moment but will likely have one early next year if you can wait.

Cheers
Mike



> On 3 Aug 2023, at 10:35, Alan Taylor via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> I?m selling off most of my equipment now that I?ve retired.  The big name things will be going onto BB List, while selected items will be sold locally, but I?m still left with loads of stuff which is either too bulky for parcels, rather niche, or not valuable enough to justify carriage charges, but too good to throw away.
> 
> Do any of you know of any techie car boot sales or flea markets where odd bits of gear can find new owners?
> 
> Alan
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From dnewbitt at fireflyuk.net  Sat Aug 12 06:43:35 2023
From: dnewbitt at fireflyuk.net (dnewbitt at fireflyuk.net)
Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2023 12:43:35 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Test email
Message-ID: <64d77067.f20.13e4.2ebe@fireflyuk.net>


 Hi Tony,
Got your message I'm pleased to say, albeit on my tablet some 20 miles 
from home and my usual computer facilities. I will be interested when 
back home this evening to check the archive for what I've received and 
what has passed me by.
Regards,
Dave Newbitt.


On Saturday 12/08/2023 at 11:07:41, Tony Briselden via Tech1  wrote:
> Before receiving Paul Thackray?s letter I had not been receiving 
> anything from Tech Ops. Paul?s email worried me as clearly there is 
> a major problem. If anyone sees this perhaps you would be good enough 
> to let me know to my personal email address as well as by Tech Ops.   
> Hope I get a response of some sort either way!!
>
> Tony B
> --
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> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
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From dnewbitt at fireflyuk.net  Sat Aug 12 09:23:11 2023
From: dnewbitt at fireflyuk.net (dnewbitt at fireflyuk.net)
Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2023 15:23:11 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Just wondering
Message-ID: <64d795cf.f20.568.790c@fireflyuk.net>


 Hi John,
I did respond to your previous posts but it seems likely it didn't 
reach you.
Getting hard to see a way out of this impasse.
Best anyway,
Dave Newbitt.


On Saturday 12/08/2023 at 14:39:31, John Howell via Tech1  wrote:
> Further to my previous email, that didn't appear copied back to me 
> from the group. It was in my 'sent items' folder. We'll see what 
> happens this time!
>
> John H.
>
>>
>> On 11 Aug 2023, at 19:50, John Howell <j at howell61.f9.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Yes Nick, very few  getting to me just yourself, Pawl Thack, Chris 
>> Woolf, Hugh Snape, Alan Taylor, Geoffrey Hawkes, no others since 31st 
>> July.
>>
>> I wonder what's going on?
>>
>> John H.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> On 9 Aug 2023, at 09:37, Nick Ware via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi, all,
>>> Just wondering if Tech1 is working or is it just me? Seems remarkably 
>>> quiet.
>>> Cheers, Nick.
>>> Nick Ware - sent from my iPad
>>>
>>> --
>>> Tech1 mailing list
>>> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
>>> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk
>
>
> --
> Tech1 mailing list
> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk

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From graeme.wall at icloud.com  Sat Aug 12 11:38:59 2023
From: graeme.wall at icloud.com (Graeme Wall)
Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2023 17:38:59 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Just wondering
In-Reply-To: <926B280B-C7D2-4305-BA3D-8F834252ADC1@howell61.f9.co.uk>
References: <AM9P191MB1604D1BA2A19AF60BECD2E81A712A@AM9P191MB1604.EURP191.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
	<0B1D11FA-7AA5-4D0E-B53B-918944952DCE@howell61.f9.co.uk>
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Message-ID: <14A56DBD-EFB8-4A80-901A-B6BA11E8FCF7@icloud.com>

Seen here


> On 11 Aug 2023, at 20:00, John Howell via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> Further to my previous email, that didn't appear copied back to me from the group. It was in my 'sent items' folder. We'll see what happens this time!
> 
> John H.
> 
>> On 11 Aug 2023, at 19:50, John Howell <j at howell61.f9.co.uk> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Yes Nick, very few  getting to me just yourself, Pawl Thack, Chris Woolf, Hugh Snape, Alan Taylor, Geoffrey Hawkes, no others since 31st July.
>> 
>> I wonder what's going on?
>> 
>> John H.
>> 
>> 
>>> On 9 Aug 2023, at 09:37, Nick Ware via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi, all,
>>> Just wondering if Tech1 is working or is it just me? Seems remarkably quiet.
>>> Cheers, Nick.
>>> Nick Ware - sent from my iPad
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> Tech1 mailing list
>>> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
>>> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk
> 
> 
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? 
Graeme Wall




From hughsnape at talktalk.net  Mon Aug 14 07:01:31 2023
From: hughsnape at talktalk.net (Hugh Snape)
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2023 13:01:31 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] [Announce] I think this is no longer working for anyone?
In-Reply-To: <BDE6EA061B33457A82DDA3140260A361@DESKTOP6GGCRV1>
References: <BDE6EA061B33457A82DDA3140260A361@DESKTOP6GGCRV1>
Message-ID: <FDB427A8-174C-44E0-B6B9-62ED3857F979@talktalk.net>

I?ve had most / all of the recent posts on this subject . . .

> On 14 Aug 2023, at 12:22, David Newbitt via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> ?
> Am I the favoured one today? I did get this message of Paul?s on the ?Announce? facility. However back on the Tech 1 forum neither of the two messages (visible on the Archive as following Bill Jenkin?s ?cri de coeur?) has come to my inbox as yet. These were from Paul showing on the Archive timed 05.17 and Dave Plowman showing 06.53.
>  
> These times (and others I have referred to previously) seem a touch suspicious.
>  
> It is clearly difficult to have a forum debate on this issue when nobody knows who, if anyone, is getting the benefit of their input.
>  
> Best to all (however few that may be!),
>  
> Dave Newbitt.
>  
> From: paul--- via Announce
> Sent: Friday, August 11, 2023 1:58 PM
> To: 'TechOps Announce'
> Subject: [Announce] I think this is no longer working for anyone?
>  
> 
> 
>  
> 
> Paul Thackray
> 
>  
> 
> PGT Media Consulting Ltd.
> 
> +44 7802 243979
> 
> Mail; paul at pgtmedia.co.uk
> 
>  
> 
> Web; http://www.pgtmedia.co.uk
> 
> Linkedin; http://uk.linkedin.com/pub/paul-thackray/19/379/746
> 
> IMDB; http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1488554/
> 
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From waresound at msn.com  Wed Aug 16 03:52:01 2023
From: waresound at msn.com (Nick Ware)
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2023 08:52:01 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Change of email address
In-Reply-To: <AM9P191MB160427B6107A2A2B00D2F68FA70CA@AM9P191MB1604.EURP191.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
References: <AM9P191MB160427B6107A2A2B00D2F68FA70CA@AM9P191MB1604.EURP191.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
Message-ID: <AM9P191MB1604A39D42BDCE28345A595BA715A@AM9P191MB1604.EURP191.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>

Further to my message below, this is to let you all know that waresound at msn.com is no longer going to be on my system. I very much hope that I can re-join you all on ware.nick at aol.com
Also, for anything other than tech1 my main email address is npware at outlook.com
Phone contact by anyone, of course, will be welcome anytime on 07802-246088
Bye for now.
Nick.

Nick Ware - sent from my iPad

On 7 Aug 2023, at 17:00, Nick Ware <waresound at msn.com> wrote:

? Hi Bernie, if you or whoever is managing Tech1 at the moment could do me a small favour, please:
I?m wanting to ditch the waresound at msn.com email address that I?ve been using for tech1 email. The one to replace it is ware.nick at aol.com . Please, anyone who?s interested, make a note of that too. Also, for personal stuff, I have npware at outlook.com . Always glad to hear from old friends on either of these.
I?ve had the msn address since day 1 of email messaging, and can?t seem to stop it attracting 50 to 60 spam (and in some cases downright offensive junk). Time to quit that ASAP.
Bernie, your contributions here are sorely missed, and I do offer my sincerest best wishes for as good a recovery as possible.
Cheers,
Nick.
Nick Ware - sent from my iPad
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From david.plaice at googlemail.com  Wed Aug 16 06:54:35 2023
From: david.plaice at googlemail.com (David Plaice)
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2023 12:54:35 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Test email
In-Reply-To: <3A843AD2-D005-4F8A-B2FB-3BC2E265AFE2@gmail.com>
References: <3A843AD2-D005-4F8A-B2FB-3BC2E265AFE2@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CANssj35pXTrCnTob-ST1GwBQwyTmo-mG0ijgopQhXwePa9tAXQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Tony,

Email received.

Dave Plaice


On Wed, 16 Aug 2023, 12:36 Tony Briselden via Tech1, <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
wrote:

> Before receiving Paul Thackray?s letter I had not been receiving anything
> from Tech Ops. Paul?s email worried me as clearly there is a major problem.
> If anyone sees this perhaps you would be good enough to let me know to my
> personal email address as well as by Tech Ops.   Hope I get a response of
> some sort either way!!
>
> Tony B
> --
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From hughsnape at talktalk.net  Wed Aug 16 07:09:22 2023
From: hughsnape at talktalk.net (Hugh Snape)
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2023 13:09:22 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Test email
In-Reply-To: <3A843AD2-D005-4F8A-B2FB-3BC2E265AFE2@gmail.com>
References: <3A843AD2-D005-4F8A-B2FB-3BC2E265AFE2@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <A9AEFD2D-2F2A-4CA5-9C64-0AF45E850BEA@talktalk.net>

I can see your post

Hugh

> On 16 Aug 2023, at 12:36, Tony Briselden via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> ?Before receiving Paul Thackray?s letter I had not been receiving anything from Tech Ops. Paul?s email worried me as clearly there is a major problem. If anyone sees this perhaps you would be good enough to let me know to my personal email address as well as by Tech Ops.   Hope I get a response of some sort either way!!
> 
> Tony B
> -- 
> Tech1 mailing list
> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk



From hughsnape at talktalk.net  Thu Aug 17 02:12:00 2023
From: hughsnape at talktalk.net (Hugh Snape)
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2023 08:12:00 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Test email
In-Reply-To: <A9AEFD2D-2F2A-4CA5-9C64-0AF45E850BEA@talktalk.net>
References: <A9AEFD2D-2F2A-4CA5-9C64-0AF45E850BEA@talktalk.net>
Message-ID: <0A26155C-9322-4998-871F-2AA355996A77@talktalk.net>

But it took a long time to appear back in my inbox 

> On 17 Aug 2023, at 01:38, Hugh Snape via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> ?I can see your post
> 
> Hugh
> 
>> On 16 Aug 2023, at 12:36, Tony Briselden via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
>> 
>> ?Before receiving Paul Thackray?s letter I had not been receiving anything from Tech Ops. Paul?s email worried me as clearly there is a major problem. If anyone sees this perhaps you would be good enough to let me know to my personal email address as well as by Tech Ops.   Hope I get a response of some sort either way!!
>> 
>> Tony B
>> -- 
>> Tech1 mailing list
>> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
>> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk
> 
> 
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From pat.heigham at amps.net  Thu Aug 17 02:26:48 2023
From: pat.heigham at amps.net (Pat Heigham)
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2023 08:26:48 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Test email
In-Reply-To: <3A843AD2-D005-4F8A-B2FB-3BC2E265AFE2@gmail.com>
References: <3A843AD2-D005-4F8A-B2FB-3BC2E265AFE2@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <7702b95b-79cc-178c-035d-482f4791a277@amps.net>

Hi Tony and all,

I received your test OK, also I get various from Paul, Chris Woolf, the 
two Daves, Mike Giles and a few others, but it has been a bit quiet - 
whether this is due to holiday time, perhaps.

It occurs to me that if Bernie is unable to carry on as 
administrator/moderator of this chatroom, then maybe a fresh one could 
be set up and subscribers asked to sign up anew.
I do not have the knowledge or expertise to do this myself, but AMPS 
employed a guru to sort out their comms following a screw up, however as 
it is his fee earning business, there would be a charge.

Could a new chat forum be set up as an attachment to the Tech ops 
website, perhaps, although it needs to be private and secure, as the 
website is accessible by the general
public. Apologies for this muddled thinking, but at 80, this is inevitable!

Keep well, everyone!

Pat H

On 12/08/2023 11:07, Tony Briselden via Tech1 wrote:
> Before receiving Paul Thackray?s letter I had not been receiving anything from Tech Ops. Paul?s email worried me as clearly there is a major problem. If anyone sees this perhaps you would be good enough to let me know to my personal email address as well as by Tech Ops.   Hope I get a response of some sort either way!!
>
> Tony B
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From john at ecompton.plus.com  Thu Aug 17 03:14:31 2023
From: john at ecompton.plus.com (John Adams)
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2023 09:14:31 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Test email
In-Reply-To: <CANssj35pXTrCnTob-ST1GwBQwyTmo-mG0ijgopQhXwePa9tAXQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <3A843AD2-D005-4F8A-B2FB-3BC2E265AFE2@gmail.com>
	<CANssj35pXTrCnTob-ST1GwBQwyTmo-mG0ijgopQhXwePa9tAXQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000001d9d0e2$da5dffc0$8f19ff40$@plus.com>

Same for me. No messages for some time. Only John Howell recently. Your message came through ok. From personal address.

Regards

John Adams

 

From: Tech1 [mailto:tech1-bounces at tech-ops.co.uk] On Behalf Of David Plaice via Tech1
Sent: 16 August 2023 12:55
To: Tony Briselden
Cc: Tech-Ops-chit-chat
Subject: Re: [Tech1] Test email

 

Hi Tony,

 

Email received.

 

Dave Plaice 

 

On Wed, 16 Aug 2023, 12:36 Tony Briselden via Tech1, <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:

Before receiving Paul Thackray?s letter I had not been receiving anything from Tech Ops. Paul?s email worried me as clearly there is a major problem. If anyone sees this perhaps you would be good enough to let me know to my personal email address as well as by Tech Ops.   Hope I get a response of some sort either way!!

Tony B
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From techtone at protonmail.com  Thu Aug 17 14:44:22 2023
From: techtone at protonmail.com (techtone)
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2023 19:44:22 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] [Announce] I think this is no longer working for anyone?
In-Reply-To: <FDB427A8-174C-44E0-B6B9-62ED3857F979@talktalk.net>
References: <BDE6EA061B33457A82DDA3140260A361@DESKTOP6GGCRV1>
	<FDB427A8-174C-44E0-B6B9-62ED3857F979@talktalk.net>
Message-ID: <dcTvUVTNS5fSu8t92Xtw3L4Ht2fzdSt6Lu2sKyPiDP-xTz8ei4W8_v4Z3HYd5c7cOT1RENtwDssmXj8eiMv9BatkRHLnPvonTK7bUXe8DGw=@protonmail.com>

I can confirm that I have received the email, and also sadly announce the sad news via the GTC forum that Ian Perry has died. I have no further news relating to any funeral arrangements.

TeaTeaFN - Tony

Sent with [Proton Mail](https://proton.me/) secure email.

------- Original Message -------
On Thursday, August 17th, 2023 at 14:58, Hugh Snape via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:

> I?ve had most / all of the recent posts on this subject . . .
>
>> On 14 Aug 2023, at 12:22, David Newbitt via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> ?
>> Am I the favoured one today? I did get this message of Paul?s on the ?Announce? facility. However back on the Tech 1 forum neither of the two messages (visible on the Archive as following Bill Jenkin?s ?cri de coeur?) has come to my inbox as yet. These were from Paul showing on the Archive timed 05.17 and Dave Plowman showing 06.53.
>>
>> These times (and others I have referred to previously) seem a touch suspicious.
>>
>> It is clearly difficult to have a forum debate on this issue when nobody knows who, if anyone, is getting the benefit of their input.
>>
>> Best to all (however few that may be!),
>>
>> Dave Newbitt.
>>
>> From: paul--- via Announce
>> Sent: Friday, August 11, 2023 1:58 PM
>> To: 'TechOps Announce'
>> Subject: [Announce] I think this is no longer working for anyone?
>>
>> Paul Thackray
>>
>> PGT Media Consulting Ltd.
>>
>> [+44 7802 243979](tel:+447802243979)
>>
>> Mail; paul at pgtmedia.co.uk
>>
>> Web; http://www.pgtmedia.co.uk
>>
>> Linkedin; http://uk.linkedin.com/pub/paul-thackray/19/379/746
>>
>> IMDB; http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1488554/
>>
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From mibridge at mac.com  Thu Aug 17 17:02:00 2023
From: mibridge at mac.com (Mike Giles)
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2023 23:02:00 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] My brain hurts
Message-ID: <22D7F6F6-A746-4AC1-A4F6-B1ED8BB51222@mac.com>

I am still confused that if I think ahead and use iPlayer to watch BBC1 live for the ten o?clock news, (our off-air signal can be disrupted by aircraft) then the BBC London News does not follow and the usual caption appears, whereas if I?m slightly late in switching on and use iPlayer to watch the ten o?clock from the beginning by pressing the green button the local news magically appears  ~ what on earth is the difference?

Mike G

From dnewbitt at fireflyuk.net  Thu Aug 17 17:21:56 2023
From: dnewbitt at fireflyuk.net (David Newbitt)
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2023 23:21:56 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] [Announce] I think this is no longer working for anyone?
In-Reply-To: <dcTvUVTNS5fSu8t92Xtw3L4Ht2fzdSt6Lu2sKyPiDP-xTz8ei4W8_v4Z3HYd5c7cOT1RENtwDssmXj8eiMv9BatkRHLnPvonTK7bUXe8DGw=@protonmail.com>
References: <BDE6EA061B33457A82DDA3140260A361@DESKTOP6GGCRV1>
	<FDB427A8-174C-44E0-B6B9-62ED3857F979@talktalk.net>
	<dcTvUVTNS5fSu8t92Xtw3L4Ht2fzdSt6Lu2sKyPiDP-xTz8ei4W8_v4Z3HYd5c7cOT1RENtwDssmXj8eiMv9BatkRHLnPvonTK7bUXe8DGw=@protonmail.com>
Message-ID: <3C0EABB9EC2A4D759D020FB87A5E8FAE@DESKTOP6GGCRV1>

As if it wasn?t enough to hear of Michael Parkinson?s passing I now see from Tony?s message that Ian Perry is no longer with us. I worked on many of Michael?s programmes and worked for spells on the same crew as Ian and am really saddened on both counts.

Ian, like all my former colleagues is still embedded in my memory as a young man. I have seen none of them for well over 40 years and think sometimes it might be less painful if my picture of them was more like the way I am ? an old man. On this same day my eldest granddaughter comes up with her A ?levels, two A?s and two A*?s so is now headed for her university of choice. Life all ahead for her but mostly all behind for us. Forgive my sounding morbid but somehow the day?s news has dragged me down rather. I will rebound I?m sure ? please, the rest of you, try to stay alive!

Dave Newbitt.

From: techtone 
Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2023 8:44 PM
To: Hugh Snape 
Cc: David Newbitt ; TechOps Announce ; tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk ; paul at pgtmedia.co.uk ; Geoffrey Hawkes 
Subject: Re: [Tech1] [Announce] I think this is no longer working for anyone?

I can confirm that I have received the email, and also sadly announce the sad news via the GTC forum that Ian Perry has died. I have no further news relating to any funeral arrangements.

TeaTeaFN - Tony

Sent with Proton Mail secure email. 

------- Original Message -------
On Thursday, August 17th, 2023 at 14:58, Hugh Snape via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:


  I?ve had most / all of the recent posts on this subject . . .


    On 14 Aug 2023, at 12:22, David Newbitt via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:


    ? 
    Am I the favoured one today? I did get this message of Paul?s on the ?Announce? facility. However back on the Tech 1 forum neither of the two messages (visible on the Archive as following Bill Jenkin?s ?cri de coeur?) has come to my inbox as yet. These were from Paul showing on the Archive timed 05.17 and Dave Plowman showing 06.53.

    These times (and others I have referred to previously) seem a touch suspicious.

    It is clearly difficult to have a forum debate on this issue when nobody knows who, if anyone, is getting the benefit of their input.

    Best to all (however few that may be!),

    Dave Newbitt.

    From: paul--- via Announce 
    Sent: Friday, August 11, 2023 1:58 PM
    To: 'TechOps Announce' 
    Subject: [Announce] I think this is no longer working for anyone?







    Paul Thackray



    PGT Media Consulting Ltd.

    +44 7802 243979

    Mail; paul at pgtmedia.co.uk



    Web; http://www.pgtmedia.co.uk

    Linkedin; http://uk.linkedin.com/pub/paul-thackray/19/379/746

    IMDB; http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1488554/


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From tony.briselden at gmail.com  Fri Aug 18 03:41:12 2023
From: tony.briselden at gmail.com (Tony Briselden)
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2023 09:41:12 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Test email
In-Reply-To: <7702b95b-79cc-178c-035d-482f4791a277@amps.net>
References: <3A843AD2-D005-4F8A-B2FB-3BC2E265AFE2@gmail.com>
	<7702b95b-79cc-178c-035d-482f4791a277@amps.net>
Message-ID: <E6165873-C22C-494E-8490-D79E5DACE639@gmail.com>

Pat

Thank you and all the other people who have responded to say they can receive my Tech Ops email. Still no luck for me as I don?t get any Tech Ops mail at all.

Your suggestion that a new forum be set up is a good idea as i?m sure that others are having problems even to the same extent as I have.

In the meantime I will have no knowledge of what is going on and regrettably this may be the position from now on.

All the best for everyone

Tony B

> On 17 Aug 2023, at 08:26, Pat Heigham <pat.heigham at amps.net> wrote:
> 
> Hi Tony and all,
> 
> I received your test OK, also I get various from Paul, Chris Woolf, the two Daves, Mike Giles and a few others, but it has been a bit quiet - whether this is due to holiday time, perhaps.
> 
> It occurs to me that if Bernie is unable to carry on as administrator/moderator of this chatroom, then maybe a fresh one could be set up and subscribers asked to sign up anew.
> I do not have the knowledge or expertise to do this myself, but AMPS employed a guru to sort out their comms following a screw up, however as it is his fee earning business, there would be a charge.
> 
> Could a new chat forum be set up as an attachment to the Tech ops website, perhaps, although it needs to be private and secure, as the website is accessible by the general
> public. Apologies for this muddled thinking, but at 80, this is inevitable!
> 
> Keep well, everyone!
> 
> Pat H
> 
> On 12/08/2023 11:07, Tony Briselden via Tech1 wrote:
>> Before receiving Paul Thackray?s letter I had not been receiving anything from Tech Ops. Paul?s email worried me as clearly there is a major problem. If anyone sees this perhaps you would be good enough to let me know to my personal email address as well as by Tech Ops.   Hope I get a response of some sort either way!!
>> 
>> Tony B

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From mibridge at mac.com  Fri Aug 18 16:49:53 2023
From: mibridge at mac.com (Mike Giles)
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2023 22:49:53 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Bernie
Message-ID: <A1A53E25-921A-4026-8D4A-05C3DF297CBA@mac.com>

In the hope that this reaches you and others, thank you Paul for relaying Pauline?s sad message about Bernie. 

Yet another unwanted milestone. 

Mike G

From barry-wilkinson at sky.com  Sun Aug 20 17:11:13 2023
From: barry-wilkinson at sky.com (B Wilkinson)
Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2023 23:11:13 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Test email
In-Reply-To: <000001d9d0e2$da5dffc0$8f19ff40$@plus.com>
References: <000001d9d0e2$da5dffc0$8f19ff40$@plus.com>
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From crew13 at vincent68.plus.com  Mon Aug 21 05:05:19 2023
From: crew13 at vincent68.plus.com (crew13)
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2023 11:05:19 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Bernie Newnham
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Message-ID: <E46DD9BF-97CA-4512-8973-1FAA4FE3459C@vincent68.plus.com>

Very sad news.

I think Pauline?s spot on.

I?m one of the lucky ones who didn?t miss out.

John Vincent




> On 18 Aug 2023, at 21:32, paul at pgtmedia.co.uk wrote:
> 
> Please see the Message below about Bernie from his wife. As you may be aware the Tech Ops announce system is currently unreliable, so I have forwared this directly as an email to all those who have emails registered with this group. (I have also copied this to tech ops as a few emails occationaly get through.)
> I have added Pauline?s email to the CC of this email, so a reply all will go to her. I will forwared Pauline?s update to the same list of names, once details are finalised
>  
> Pesonaly I find this very sad news, my thoughts are with those left behind. 
> Paul
>  
>  
> Dear All,
>    
> It is with great sadness that I share with you that Bernie died yesterday (17th). He had been ill for some time, but was able to spend his last few months at home where he wanted to be.
>  
> I'm sorry that the Announce List is not currently working, and regular email services are causing issues, so I am contacting you via a mailing service. If you wish to reply to me please do so at pauline.langfield at ntlworld.com <mailto:pauline.langfield at ntlworld.com>
>  
> I will post funeral details when we know them.
> 
> Thank you to the friends who kept in touch over the years.
> 
> If you don't know me, I'm his wife and we'd been together for 41 years.
> 
> If you didn't know Bernie, then you missed out.
> Regards,
>  
> Pauline
> Copyright (C) 2023 Tech-Ops. All rights reserved.
> You are receiving this email because you opted in via our website. 
> 
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From alec.bray.2 at gmail.com  Tue Aug 22 07:44:46 2023
From: alec.bray.2 at gmail.com (Alec Bray)
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2023 13:44:46 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Any ideas?
Message-ID: <CAA0HHB1Ux2BcR=g9O0=iWmRrBjLrYht9ubSLqN-WTb_PAwmvQQ@mail.gmail.com>

https://www.facebook.com/groups/1425282661005351/permalink/2355414754658799/?sfnsn=scwspmo&ref=share

Came across this on Facebook and thought of you guys ..


Alec

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From alec.bray.2 at gmail.com  Tue Aug 22 11:38:55 2023
From: alec.bray.2 at gmail.com (Alec Bray)
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2023 17:38:55 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Wimbledon - '65,' 66 query
Message-ID: <b22477ce-da47-2b73-80f6-cff17d7d07df@gmail.com>

HI,

I have just found some negatives that had been hiding away, and there 
are some shots that I had quite forgotten about.

One summer some of us studio bods were asked to go to Wimbledon to help 
out, as the OB was short staffed: not sure the year but possible 1965 or 
1966.

The OB people did not want us anywhere near the main cameras, so we were 
told to man the cameras for the player interviews and local "studio" pieces.

I took some quick shots - sorry for the poor quality but I think 
interest outweighs it in this case.


Rediffusion were also broadcasting the tennis, and there was no thought 
of a common feed.? So each broadcaster had their own cameras and crew.? 
Here on Centre Court we have two BBC TV Pye Mk 6 cameras, which contrast 
with the Rediffusion Marconi Mk III cameras - a couple of (tv camera) 
generations older!? (and are they unmanned at this precise moment ...???)


This is before Wimbledon Centre court got rebuilt.? This is the sort of 
view that you got:


And of course there was a hoist ....


Hope that these are interesting.


BTW any comments - can you cc me directly as I am not getting Tech Ops 
emails ...


Best regards,

Alec


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From johnk.farr at tiscali.co.uk  Tue Aug 22 12:02:48 2023
From: johnk.farr at tiscali.co.uk (john farr)
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2023 18:02:48 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Test email
In-Reply-To: <E6165873-C22C-494E-8490-D79E5DACE639@gmail.com>
References: <3A843AD2-D005-4F8A-B2FB-3BC2E265AFE2@gmail.com>
	<7702b95b-79cc-178c-035d-482f4791a277@amps.net>
	<E6165873-C22C-494E-8490-D79E5DACE639@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <mailman.0.1692723781.453454.tech1_tech-ops.co.uk@tech-ops.co.uk>

I am receiving some of the things that are being sent but it is evident that I am not getting everything as there are references and replies to things I have not received.

John

Sent from Mail for Windows

From: Tony Briselden via Tech1
Sent: 22 August 2023 05:12
To: Pat Heigham; tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
Subject: Re: [Tech1] Test email

Pat

Thank you and all the other people who have responded to say they can receive my Tech Ops email. Still no luck for me as I don?t get any Tech Ops mail at all.

Your suggestion that a new forum be set up is a good idea as i?m sure that others are having problems even to the same extent as I have.

In the meantime I will have no knowledge of what is going on and regrettably this may be the position from now on.

All the best for everyone

Tony B


On 17 Aug 2023, at 08:26, Pat Heigham <pat.heigham at amps.net> wrote:

Hi Tony and all,
I received your test OK, also I get various from Paul, Chris Woolf, the two Daves, Mike Giles and a few others, but it has been a bit quiet - whether this is due to holiday time, perhaps.
It occurs to me that if Bernie is unable to carry on as administrator/moderator of this chatroom, then maybe a fresh one could be set up and subscribers asked to sign up anew.
I do not have the knowledge or expertise to do this myself, but AMPS employed a guru to sort out their comms following a screw up, however as it is his fee earning business, there would be a charge.
Could a new chat forum be set up as an attachment to the Tech ops website, perhaps, although it needs to be private and secure, as the website is accessible by the general
public. Apologies for this muddled thinking, but at 80, this is inevitable!
Keep well, everyone!
Pat H
On 12/08/2023 11:07, Tony Briselden via Tech1 wrote:
Before receiving Paul Thackray?s letter I had not been receiving anything from Tech Ops. Paul?s email worried me as clearly there is a major problem. If anyone sees this perhaps you would be good enough to let me know to my personal email address as well as by Tech Ops.   Hope I get a response of some sort either way!!

Tony B


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From alanaudio at me.com  Wed Aug 23 00:00:30 2023
From: alanaudio at me.com (Alan Taylor)
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2023 07:00:30 +0200
Subject: [Tech1] Any ideas?
In-Reply-To: <CAA0HHB1Ux2BcR=g9O0=iWmRrBjLrYht9ubSLqN-WTb_PAwmvQQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAA0HHB1Ux2BcR=g9O0=iWmRrBjLrYht9ubSLqN-WTb_PAwmvQQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <06EE38C5-DF23-47B6-AB69-38218731E537@me.com>

There?s not much to add to what has already been said by the members of that group.

One member suggested that the scanner bodywork would make the basis of a terrific RV. Sadly that was the fate of too many scanners.  All the technical stuff was ripped out and the shell converted into a mobile home.  The obvious drawback being that scanners are built without windows, while an RV benefits from having windows. Other scanners have been converted into racing car transporters and mobile garages. The back of the scanner needs to be removed with a giant tin opener and replaced with a door/ramp which lowers down. Again it?s a shame that all the gear gets ripped out, but any gear which is of value will have been removed before it goes to auction anyway. What is left is the built-in stuff like cabling, racks and ancillary equipment.

Incidentally, when it comes to professional racing teams, their mobile support vehicles now look very similar to expanding side OB trucks.  Normally when
 arriving at an OB location, it?s quite straightforward to find the TV compound because OB trucks are so distinctive.  At a race circuit such as Donnington Park, the TV compound is situated in a corner of the area where all the support vehicles are.  It?s not so easy finding the scanner when there another hundred vehicles surrounding it which look very much like scanners. 

For those who don?t know, Stephen Neal who provided much of the info on that thread, is the son of OB vision supervisor Roger Neal, universally known Twink. The last time I worked with Stephen, he was a director. The first time I met Stephen was when he was about ten or twelve and his father brought him along to visit a programme.  The lad?s knowledge of scanners and OB operations at that age would have put many professionals to shame.

Alan ( currently visiting Germany )


> On 22 Aug 2023, at 14:45, Alec Bray <alec.bray.2 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> ?
> https://www.facebook.com/groups/1425282661005351/permalink/2355414754658799/?sfnsn=scwspmo&ref=share
> 
> Came across this on Facebook and thought of you guys ..
> 
> 
> Alec
> 
> Sent from my mobile phone. Apologies for any strange autocorrections...
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From dnewbitt at fireflyuk.net  Wed Aug 23 04:57:22 2023
From: dnewbitt at fireflyuk.net (David Newbitt)
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2023 10:57:22 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Any ideas?
In-Reply-To: <CAA0HHB1Ux2BcR=g9O0=iWmRrBjLrYht9ubSLqN-WTb_PAwmvQQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAA0HHB1Ux2BcR=g9O0=iWmRrBjLrYht9ubSLqN-WTb_PAwmvQQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8A47E75CC64B4182BF5E2456545E30D1@DESKTOP6GGCRV1>

Hi Alec,

I had a gander at the Facebook group OB item and despite my lack of any first hand OB knowledge found it an interesting read ? in part because of the peripheral stuff about Dennis, something I can connect with from past (and ongoing) interest in commercial vehicles.

Straying into other threads of this group (which I was previously unaware of), I soon realised that regret over decades of erosion of professional standards is not just felt by us old lags over here, it?s the same across the pond. Surprise, surprise!

Best wishes,

Dave Newbitt.



From: Alec Bray via Tech1 
Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2023 1:44 PM
To: Tech Ops Group 
Subject: [Tech1] Any ideas?

https://www.facebook.com/groups/1425282661005351/permalink/2355414754658799/?sfnsn=scwspmo&ref=share 

Came across this on Facebook and thought of you guys ..


Alec

Sent from my mobile phone. Apologies for any strange autocorrections...


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From hughsnape at talktalk.net  Wed Aug 23 08:05:34 2023
From: hughsnape at talktalk.net (Hugh Snape)
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2023 14:05:34 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Any ideas?
In-Reply-To: <CAA0HHB1Ux2BcR=g9O0=iWmRrBjLrYht9ubSLqN-WTb_PAwmvQQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <AE5ED0EF-3BAF-4DD3-8215-24FA84EE779B@talktalk.net>

Yes, there?s often some quite interesting stuff covered by that group. A lot of it is American.

Hugh Snape

> On 23 Aug 2023, at 13:12, Alec Bray via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> ?
> https://www.facebook.com/groups/1425282661005351/permalink/2355414754658799/?sfnsn=scwspmo&ref=share
> 
> Came across this on Facebook and thought of you guys ..
> 
> 
> Alec
> 
> Sent from my mobile phone. Apologies for any strange autocorrections...
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From techtone at protonmail.com  Thu Aug 24 14:58:37 2023
From: techtone at protonmail.com (techtone)
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2023 19:58:37 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Keeping the list going
Message-ID: <sOlQaer0Bu_8GLQg1ZD4XiFDo2VnusHcTAZ5HRiuoBivim22iT_folzBLpPjByZicnF69q-ofWi2sTdB9IXkuSCGoq-dF1vLpNiNq-wK_-c=@protonmail.com>

I'm sending this out on the chit-chat email address and I'd be grateful if you let me know if you receive it.

I've been in touch with a good friend of mine who runs his own computer company, and asked him for ideas about 'repairing' the holes which have occurred in the list. He's looked at the website and confirmed that it's paid for until 2029, but would like more info on the email side of things. With your permission, I will pass on email addresses that I have from past emails so's he can hopefully unravel the system and come up with a solution to being able to administer it.

TeaTeaFN - Tony

Sent with [Proton Mail](https://proton.me/) secure email.
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From hughsnape at talktalk.net  Fri Aug 25 01:40:51 2023
From: hughsnape at talktalk.net (Hugh Snape)
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2023 07:40:51 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Keeping the list going
In-Reply-To: <sOlQaer0Bu_8GLQg1ZD4XiFDo2VnusHcTAZ5HRiuoBivim22iT_folzBLpPjByZicnF69q-ofWi2sTdB9IXkuSCGoq-dF1vLpNiNq-wK_-c=@protonmail.com>
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Message-ID: <BA0BB292-45DC-4468-816F-416ADDA45574@talktalk.net>

Hi Tony,

I received your message.

Hugh Snape

> On 24 Aug 2023, at 23:54, techtone via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> ?
> I'm sending this out on the chit-chat email address and I'd be grateful if you let me know if you receive it.
> 
> I've been in touch with a good friend of mine who runs his own computer company, and asked him for ideas about 'repairing' the holes which have occurred in the list. He's looked at the website and confirmed that it's paid for until 2029, but would like more info on the email side of things. With your permission, I will pass on email addresses that I have from past emails so's he can hopefully unravel the system and come up with a solution to being able to administer it.
> 
> TeaTeaFN - Tony
> 
> Sent with Proton Mail secure email.
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From pat.heigham at amps.net  Fri Aug 25 03:16:27 2023
From: pat.heigham at amps.net (Pat Heigham)
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2023 09:16:27 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Keeping the list going
In-Reply-To: <sOlQaer0Bu_8GLQg1ZD4XiFDo2VnusHcTAZ5HRiuoBivim22iT_folzBLpPjByZicnF69q-ofWi2sTdB9IXkuSCGoq-dF1vLpNiNq-wK_-c=@protonmail.com>
References: <sOlQaer0Bu_8GLQg1ZD4XiFDo2VnusHcTAZ5HRiuoBivim22iT_folzBLpPjByZicnF69q-ofWi2sTdB9IXkuSCGoq-dF1vLpNiNq-wK_-c=@protonmail.com>
Message-ID: <91554ce2-cc0d-134c-b71a-4e4e46574ad1@amps.net>

Received,

I got te message about Bernie's demise, I think directly from Pauline, 
so it's possible that she has access to the existing mailing list.

Check after B has been laid to rest.

I think a new chat forum would be a good idea.

Pat H (TVC 1962-69)

24/08/2023 20:58, techtone via Tech1 wrote:

> I'm sending this out on the chit-chat email address and I'd be 
> grateful if you let me know if you receive it.
>
> I've been in touch with a good friend of mine who runs his own 
> computer company, and asked him for ideas about 'repairing' the holes 
> which have occurred in the list. He's looked at the website and 
> confirmed that it's paid for until 2029, but would like more info on 
> the email side of things. With your permission, I will pass on email 
> addresses that I have from past emails so's he can hopefully unravel 
> the system and come up with a solution to being able to administer it.
>
> TeaTeaFN - Tony
>
> Sent with Proton Mail <https://proton.me/> secure email.
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From dnewbitt at fireflyuk.net  Fri Aug 25 03:28:28 2023
From: dnewbitt at fireflyuk.net (David Newbitt)
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2023 09:28:28 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Keeping the list going
In-Reply-To: <sOlQaer0Bu_8GLQg1ZD4XiFDo2VnusHcTAZ5HRiuoBivim22iT_folzBLpPjByZicnF69q-ofWi2sTdB9IXkuSCGoq-dF1vLpNiNq-wK_-c=@protonmail.com>
References: <sOlQaer0Bu_8GLQg1ZD4XiFDo2VnusHcTAZ5HRiuoBivim22iT_folzBLpPjByZicnF69q-ofWi2sTdB9IXkuSCGoq-dF1vLpNiNq-wK_-c=@protonmail.com>
Message-ID: <1B552890271B406C833428F0907FA99D@DESKTOP6GGCRV1>

Well done Tony ? loud and clear here.

I?ve never known what actually distinguishes Tech-Ops-chit-chat from tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk .

Cheers,

Dave Newbitt.

From: techtone via Tech1 
Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2023 8:58 PM
To: Tech-Ops-chit-chat 
Subject: [Tech1] Keeping the list going

I'm sending this out on the chit-chat email address and I'd be grateful if you let me know if you receive it.

I've been in touch with a good friend of mine who runs his own computer company, and asked him for ideas about 'repairing' the holes which have occurred in the list. He's looked at the website and confirmed that it's paid for until 2029, but would like more info on the email side of things. With your permission, I will pass on email addresses that I have from past emails so's he can hopefully unravel the system and come up with a solution to being able to administer it.

TeaTeaFN - Tony

Sent with Proton Mail secure email. 


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From alec.bray.2 at gmail.com  Fri Aug 25 07:52:46 2023
From: alec.bray.2 at gmail.com (Alec Bray)
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2023 13:52:46 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] The Tech1 email Archives
Message-ID: <e4f91891-f831-e3ad-a78c-77197e297958@gmail.com>

Hi Tony,

You wrote:

"...I've been in touch with a good friend of mine who runs his own computer company, and asked him for
ideas about 'repairing' the holes which have occurred in the list. He's looked at the website and
confirmed that it's paid for until 2029, but would like more info on the email side of things.
With your permission, I will pass on email addresses that I have from past emails so's he can
hopefully unravel the system and come up with a solution to being able to administer it..."


There is NO problem with the Tech Ops web site - you may have noticed that there have been some new posts
there - and I know, 'cos Bernie told me - that there is provision in his will to keep the web site alive
for some time (the admin for this site is officially Alan Taylor nowadays) .

The problem, AFAIK, is to do with the mail handler (which is quite a separate application) and Bernie never talked with/to me
about that - it was very much his domain.? Paul Thackray and I have also been chatting about trying to
remedy the mail system.  To try to sort it out I/we, for example,  would need administrative access to
the mail handler (and access to the passwords), so basically I/we would need to be invited to help.  I was
not going to do anything until after Bernie has been laid to rest.

I, like you and many others, would be very pleased if people could help with sorting out the mail system, but I would counsel
against taking precipitative action.


Meanwhile - it seems as if the archive system is sort of working, although Paul has noticed some emails
have been missed: the archive lives here:

http://tech-ops.co.uk/pipermail/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk/

and it was through the archive that I found your email and the replies 
to your email -? I NEVER got it through the regular tech ops email system.

I hope that this makes sense.

Very best regards,

Alec



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From techtone at protonmail.com  Fri Aug 25 14:31:28 2023
From: techtone at protonmail.com (techtone)
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2023 19:31:28 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] The Tech1 email Archives
In-Reply-To: <e4f91891-f831-e3ad-a78c-77197e297958@gmail.com>
References: <e4f91891-f831-e3ad-a78c-77197e297958@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <vfwq83IkbEZY4aGvaW2Cj63RghnpjvnRBcCeFBZMocUCtlLSAHlaWNICigMbcxCNli4b8T3lKWbU9EE7Da2spSjJN-oqBPUUjueUv8bMbYk=@protonmail.com>

Thanks to Alec for clarifying the present status of our email list with admin overseen by Alan Taylor. I shall obviously hold fire in the meantime and wait to hear from Alan/Alec/Paul.

Thanks to you for your hard work on behalf of the tech-ops community.

TeaTeaFN - Tony

Sent with [Proton Mail](https://proton.me/) secure email.

------- Original Message -------
On Friday, August 25th, 2023 at 13:52, Alec Bray <alec.bray.2 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Tony,
>
> You wrote:
>
> "...I've been in touch with a good friend of mine who runs his own computer company, and asked him for
> ideas about 'repairing' the holes which have occurred in the list. He's looked at the website and
> confirmed that it's paid for until 2029, but would like more info on the email side of things.
> With your permission, I will pass on email addresses that I have from past emails so's he can
> hopefully unravel the system and come up with a solution to being able to administer it..."
>
> There is NO problem with the Tech Ops web site - you may have noticed that there have been some new posts
> there - and I know, 'cos Bernie told me - that there is provision in his will to keep the web site alive
> for some time (the admin for this site is officially Alan Taylor nowadays) .
>
> The problem, AFAIK, is to do with the mail handler (which is quite a separate application) and Bernie never talked with/to me
> about that - it was very much his domain.  Paul Thackray and I have also been chatting about trying to
> remedy the mail system.  To try to sort it out I/we, for example,  would need administrative access to
> the mail handler (and access to the passwords), so basically I/we would need to be invited to help.  I was
> not going to do anything until after Bernie has been laid to rest.
>
> I, like you and many others, would be very pleased if people could help with sorting out the mail system, but I would counsel
> against taking precipitative action.
>
> Meanwhile - it seems as if the archive system is sort of working, although Paul has noticed some emails
> have been missed: the archive lives here:
>
> http://tech-ops.co.uk/pipermail/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk/
>
> and it was through the archive that I found your email and the replies to your email - I NEVER got it through the regular tech ops email system.
>
> I hope that this makes sense.
>
> Very best regards,
>
> Alec
>
> --
> =====================================
>
> Alec Bray
> alec.bray.2 at gmail.com
> MOD:  07789 561 346
> TEL:  0118 981 7502
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From the_slad at yahoo.co.uk  Fri Aug 25 14:58:48 2023
From: the_slad at yahoo.co.uk (David Hunter)
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2023 20:58:48 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Keeping the list going
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Sent from my Galaxy
-------- Original message --------From: techtone via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> Date: 25/08/2023  02:31  (GMT+00:00) To: Tech-Ops-chit-chat <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> Subject: [Tech1] Keeping the list going I'm sending this out on the chit-chat email address and I'd be grateful if you let me know if you receive it.I've been in touch with a good friend of mine who runs his own computer company, and asked him for ideas about 'repairing' the holes which have occurred in the list. He's looked at the website and confirmed that it's paid for until 2029, but would like more info on the email side of things. With your permission, I will pass on email addresses that I have from past emails so's he can hopefully unravel the system and come up with a solution to being able to administer it.TeaTeaFN - Tony

    
        
            
    
            
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From jnottage.jn at googlemail.com  Sat Aug 26 03:19:02 2023
From: jnottage.jn at googlemail.com (John Nottage)
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2023 09:19:02 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] RCD Tripping Problem
Message-ID: <def765bf-06b6-1d0e-be00-99eb9aa7ea09@googlemail.com>

I have an RCD in the garage which covers the garage sockets, electric 
door & small water fountain in the garden. I have another in the house 
which covers the garage, an outside socket & the shower. Lately the 
house RCD keeps tripping out. I think it seems to coincide with the 
fountain being switched off by it's timer at about 7pm. It doesn't 
happen everyday. I only know it's happened when the shower doesn't work 
or the fountain doesn't come on in the morning. The garage RCD doesn't 
trip, luckily as the garage door still works once I've reset the house RCD!

Can anyone suggest what & how I should test the system to try to narrow 
down the problem, please?

John Nottage


From doug at puddifoot.me  Sat Aug 26 11:43:42 2023
From: doug at puddifoot.me (Doug Puddifoot)
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2023 17:43:42 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Keeping the list going
Message-ID: <trbwbk7q966i5er4duwal2oe.1693068222026@email.android.com>

Got it. Doug Puddifoot

On 24 August 2023, at 20:58, techtone via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:

I'm sending this out on the chit-chat email address and I'd be grateful if you let me know if you receive it.


I've been in touch with a good friend of mine who runs his own computer company, and asked him for ideas about 'repairing' the holes which have occurred in the list. He's looked at the website and confirmed that it's paid for until 2029, but would like more info on the email side of things. With your permission, I will pass on email addresses that I have from past emails so's he can hopefully unravel the system and come up with a solution to being able to administer it.


TeaTeaFN - Tony


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From graeme.wall at icloud.com  Sun Aug 27 05:58:52 2023
From: graeme.wall at icloud.com (Graeme Wall)
Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2023 11:58:52 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Keeping the list going
In-Reply-To: <sOlQaer0Bu_8GLQg1ZD4XiFDo2VnusHcTAZ5HRiuoBivim22iT_folzBLpPjByZicnF69q-ofWi2sTdB9IXkuSCGoq-dF1vLpNiNq-wK_-c=@protonmail.com>
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Message-ID: <2FBE152C-CBD5-4D68-AD5A-0B65CB495A93@icloud.com>

Congratulations, I hope he succedes.

> On 24 Aug 2023, at 20:58, techtone via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> I'm sending this out on the chit-chat email address and I'd be grateful if you let me know if you receive it.
> 
> I've been in touch with a good friend of mine who runs his own computer company, and asked him for ideas about 'repairing' the holes which have occurred in the list. He's looked at the website and confirmed that it's paid for until 2029, but would like more info on the email side of things. With your permission, I will pass on email addresses that I have from past emails so's he can hopefully unravel the system and come up with a solution to being able to administer it.
> 
> TeaTeaFN - Tony
> 
> Sent with Proton Mail secure email. 
> -- 
> Tech1 mailing list
> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk

? 
Graeme Wall




From alanaudio at me.com  Sun Aug 27 08:51:01 2023
From: alanaudio at me.com (Alan Taylor)
Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2023 15:51:01 +0200
Subject: [Tech1] Keeping the list going
In-Reply-To: <sOlQaer0Bu_8GLQg1ZD4XiFDo2VnusHcTAZ5HRiuoBivim22iT_folzBLpPjByZicnF69q-ofWi2sTdB9IXkuSCGoq-dF1vLpNiNq-wK_-c=@protonmail.com>
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From j at howell61.f9.co.uk  Sun Aug 27 16:16:55 2023
From: j at howell61.f9.co.uk (John Howell)
Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2023 22:16:55 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] The Tech1 email Archives
In-Reply-To: <vfwq83IkbEZY4aGvaW2Cj63RghnpjvnRBcCeFBZMocUCtlLSAHlaWNICigMbcxCNli4b8T3lKWbU9EE7Da2spSjJN-oqBPUUjueUv8bMbYk=@protonmail.com>
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	<vfwq83IkbEZY4aGvaW2Cj63RghnpjvnRBcCeFBZMocUCtlLSAHlaWNICigMbcxCNli4b8T3lKWbU9EE7Da2spSjJN-oqBPUUjueUv8bMbYk=@protonmail.com>
Message-ID: <E6D3B882-03F5-4175-A8DE-AA6F4EEE2E21@howell61.f9.co.uk>

Yes, message received well done with the recovery work, it would be a shame to lose such a valuable link to ex-  colleagues and friends. One sadness is their number is decreasing at an alarming rate.

My commiserations to Pauline and Berne's family and friends.

Best regards,
john Howell.


> On 25 Aug 2023, at 20:31, techtone via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> Thanks to Alec for clarifying the present status of our email list with admin overseen by Alan Taylor. I shall obviously hold fire in the meantime and wait to hear from Alan/Alec/Paul.
> 
> Thanks to you for your hard work on behalf of the tech-ops community.
> 
> TeaTeaFN - Tony
> 
> Sent with Proton Mail secure email.
> 
> ------- Original Message -------
>> On Friday, August 25th, 2023 at 13:52, Alec Bray <alec.bray.2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Tony,
>> 
>> You wrote:
>> "...I've been in touch with a good friend of mine who runs his own computer company, and asked him for
>> ideas about 'repairing' the holes which have occurred in the list. He's looked at the website and
>> confirmed that it's paid for until 2029, but would like more info on the email side of things.
>> With your permission, I will pass on email addresses that I have from past emails so's he can
>> hopefully unravel the system and come up with a solution to being able to administer it..."
>> 
>> 
>> There is NO problem with the Tech Ops web site - you may have noticed that there have been some new posts
>> there - and I know, 'cos Bernie told me - that there is provision in his will to keep the web site alive
>> for some time (the admin for this site is officially Alan Taylor nowadays) . 
>> 
>> The problem, AFAIK, is to do with the mail handler (which is quite a separate application) and Bernie never talked with/to me
>> about that - it was very much his domain.  Paul Thackray and I have also been chatting about trying to
>> remedy the mail system.  To try to sort it out I/we, for example,  would need administrative access to
>> the mail handler (and access to the passwords), so basically I/we would need to be invited to help.  I was
>> not going to do anything until after Bernie has been laid to rest.
>> 
>> I, like you and many others, would be very pleased if people could help with sorting out the mail system, but I would counsel
>> against taking precipitative action.
>> 
>> 
>> Meanwhile - it seems as if the archive system is sort of working, although Paul has noticed some emails
>> have been missed: the archive lives here:
>> 
>> http://tech-ops.co.uk/pipermail/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk/
>> 
>> and it was through the archive that I found your email and the replies to your email - I NEVER got it through the regular tech ops email system.
>> 
>> I hope that this makes sense.
>> 
>> Very best regards,
>> 
>> Alec
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> =====================================
>> 
>> Alec Bray
>> alec.bray.2 at gmail.com
>> MOD:  07789 561 346
>> TEL:  0118 981 7502
> 
> -- 
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> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
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From mibridge at mac.com  Mon Aug 28 16:52:56 2023
From: mibridge at mac.com (Mike Giles)
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2023 22:52:56 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Keeping the list going
In-Reply-To: <sOlQaer0Bu_8GLQg1ZD4XiFDo2VnusHcTAZ5HRiuoBivim22iT_folzBLpPjByZicnF69q-ofWi2sTdB9IXkuSCGoq-dF1vLpNiNq-wK_-c=@protonmail.com>
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Message-ID: <EE20C636-FB14-4B12-A587-CED0EF6F2D82@mac.com>

Received here and I'm happy for my email address to be passed on.

Mike Giles 

> On 24 Aug 2023, at 20:58, techtone via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> I'm sending this out on the chit-chat email address and I'd be grateful if you let me know if you receive it.
> 
> I've been in touch with a good friend of mine who runs his own computer company, and asked him for ideas about 'repairing' the holes which have occurred in the list. He's looked at the website and confirmed that it's paid for until 2029, but would like more info on the email side of things. With your permission, I will pass on email addresses that I have from past emails so's he can hopefully unravel the system and come up with a solution to being able to administer it.
> 
> TeaTeaFN - Tony
> 
> Sent with Proton Mail <https://proton.me/> secure email.
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> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
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From nickrodger at mac.com  Mon Aug 28 17:20:22 2023
From: nickrodger at mac.com (Nick Rodger)
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2023 23:20:22 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Keeping the list going
In-Reply-To: <sOlQaer0Bu_8GLQg1ZD4XiFDo2VnusHcTAZ5HRiuoBivim22iT_folzBLpPjByZicnF69q-ofWi2sTdB9IXkuSCGoq-dF1vLpNiNq-wK_-c=@protonmail.com>
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Message-ID: <D6D0AD80-5406-4DAA-8AF0-14CC29455D33@mac.com>

I received this email at 22:39, Monday 28 August. 

Nick. 

Nick Rodger 
Cameraman (Retired) 
07971 007578 
nickrodger at mac.com <mailto:nickrodger at mac.com> 

Don?t blame me!! 
I voted Remain ?? 











On 24 Aug 2023, at 20:58, techtone via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:

I'm sending this out on the chit-chat email address and I'd be grateful if you let me know if you receive it.

I've been in touch with a good friend of mine who runs his own computer company, and asked him for ideas about 'repairing' the holes which have occurred in the list. He's looked at the website and confirmed that it's paid for until 2029, but would like more info on the email side of things. With your permission, I will pass on email addresses that I have from past emails so's he can hopefully unravel the system and come up with a solution to being able to administer it.

TeaTeaFN - Tony

Sent with Proton Mail <https://proton.me/> secure email.
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From jan.goldring at yahoo.co.uk  Wed Aug 30 01:51:39 2023
From: jan.goldring at yahoo.co.uk (Janis Goldring)
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2023 07:51:39 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] The Tech1 email Archives
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From pat.heigham at amps.net  Wed Aug 30 02:56:52 2023
From: pat.heigham at amps.net (Pat Heigham)
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2023 08:56:52 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] RCD Tripping Problem
In-Reply-To: <def765bf-06b6-1d0e-be00-99eb9aa7ea09@googlemail.com>
References: <def765bf-06b6-1d0e-be00-99eb9aa7ea09@googlemail.com>
Message-ID: <8253650d-5600-3cfe-b82f-5cdebddd45cb@amps.net>

Hi John,

RCD's trip if there is a fault in the wiring somewhere.

Do you have a consumer unit with individual circuit breakers for each unit?
Try switching them all off and one by one turning them on until the RCD 
trips. That will identify where to inspect further.

Have you got exterior cabling not contained within metal or strong 
plastic conduit showing signs of squirrel nibbling?
The little beasts seem to find plastic insulation to be a tasty snack!

I would recommend calling in a qualified electrician - where I live, in 
one of a small development of purpose-built flats,
we have to have an electrical safety certificate to satisfy the building 
insurers. Do your insurers request the same?

Our man was brought in to update our interior lighting for communal 
hallways and stairs, changing from manual
wall switches to proximity detectors with back up battery emergency 
lighting. Also our exterior lights now work
on ambient light instead of time clocks.

Depending on where you are, I can let you have his contact details.

Pat H
TVC Tech-ops 1961-68

On 26/08/2023 09:19, John Nottage via Tech1 wrote:
> I have an RCD in the garage which covers the garage sockets, electric 
> door & small water fountain in the garden. I have another in the house 
> which covers the garage, an outside socket & the shower. Lately the 
> house RCD keeps tripping out. I think it seems to coincide with the 
> fountain being switched off by it's timer at about 7pm. It doesn't 
> happen everyday. I only know it's happened when the shower doesn't 
> work or the fountain doesn't come on in the morning. The garage RCD 
> doesn't trip, luckily as the garage door still works once I've reset 
> the house RCD!
>
> Can anyone suggest what & how I should test the system to try to 
> narrow down the problem, please?
>
> John Nottage
>
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From dnewbitt at fireflyuk.net  Wed Aug 30 05:46:28 2023
From: dnewbitt at fireflyuk.net (David Newbitt)
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2023 11:46:28 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] RCD Tripping Problem
In-Reply-To: <def765bf-06b6-1d0e-be00-99eb9aa7ea09@googlemail.com>
References: <def765bf-06b6-1d0e-be00-99eb9aa7ea09@googlemail.com>
Message-ID: <4B1964BD42D74FF7960CC6244F0C10EC@DESKTOP6GGCRV1>

Hi John,

I think a little more detail might be helpful in attempting to analyse this 
problem
but here is a stab at the issue.

If the 'house' RCD trips without the garage RCD tripping then either the 
house RCD
has a lower tripping current than the garage RCD (in which event your 
fountain
might be the culprit) or the fault lies not with the garage sockets/electric 
door/fountain
but with the outside socket or the shower. (That's assuming the garage RCD 
is functioning
correctly - have you tried pressing the trip button?)

When you refer to RCD (also known as RCB or RCCB) you are of course talking 
about
a tripping device sensing difference in current flow between live and 
neutral. Additional
measures are still required to protect against over current, typically 
provided by MCBs.
Ideally your garage RCD would be followed by 3 MCBs or equivalent for the 3 
separate
load requirements. These three requirements should of course on no account 
be simply
parallel fed out of the RCD.

Similarly, back at the house, the RCD should be followed by 3 MCBs for the 
garage feed,
the shower and the outside socket.

If your set up does include MCBs deployed as above it would be a simple 
matter to try
in turn switching off likely suspects one at a time for ideally two or three 
days.

You may be aware that there are also protection devices called RCBOs which 
combine
the functions of RCD and MCB. Perhaps check that these do not feature 
anywhere in
your installation?

Hope this helps a little,

Dave Newbitt.



-----Original Message----- 
From: John Nottage via Tech1
Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2023 9:19 AM
To: tech1
Subject: [Tech1] RCD Tripping Problem

I have an RCD in the garage which covers the garage sockets, electric
door & small water fountain in the garden. I have another in the house
which covers the garage, an outside socket & the shower. Lately the
house RCD keeps tripping out. I think it seems to coincide with the
fountain being switched off by it's timer at about 7pm. It doesn't
happen everyday. I only know it's happened when the shower doesn't work
or the fountain doesn't come on in the morning. The garage RCD doesn't
trip, luckily as the garage door still works once I've reset the house RCD!

Can anyone suggest what & how I should test the system to try to narrow
down the problem, please?

John Nottage

-- 
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http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk 



From jnottage.jn at googlemail.com  Wed Aug 30 10:38:53 2023
From: jnottage.jn at googlemail.com (John Nottage)
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2023 16:38:53 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] RCD Tripping Problem
In-Reply-To: <4B1964BD42D74FF7960CC6244F0C10EC@DESKTOP6GGCRV1>
References: <def765bf-06b6-1d0e-be00-99eb9aa7ea09@googlemail.com>
	<4B1964BD42D74FF7960CC6244F0C10EC@DESKTOP6GGCRV1>
Message-ID: <CAP-d_-o4Oav0-JuNOzm4HD_JN8X54XGk2a=cw9uT8OgiEk-01A@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks to all who offered solutions. I unplugged the fountain yesterday: so
far the breaker has stayed on. I've asked my local electrician to pop in
and test it for me. I suspect it might be a rat chewing it where it goes
underground!

John Nottage

On Wed, 30 Aug 2023, 11:46 David Newbitt, <dnewbitt at fireflyuk.net> wrote:

> Hi John,
>
> I think a little more detail might be helpful in attempting to analyse
> this
> problem
> but here is a stab at the issue.
>
> If the 'house' RCD trips without the garage RCD tripping then either the
> house RCD
> has a lower tripping current than the garage RCD (in which event your
> fountain
> might be the culprit) or the fault lies not with the garage
> sockets/electric
> door/fountain
> but with the outside socket or the shower. (That's assuming the garage RCD
> is functioning
> correctly - have you tried pressing the trip button?)
>
> When you refer to RCD (also known as RCB or RCCB) you are of course
> talking
> about
> a tripping device sensing difference in current flow between live and
> neutral. Additional
> measures are still required to protect against over current, typically
> provided by MCBs.
> Ideally your garage RCD would be followed by 3 MCBs or equivalent for the
> 3
> separate
> load requirements. These three requirements should of course on no account
> be simply
> parallel fed out of the RCD.
>
> Similarly, back at the house, the RCD should be followed by 3 MCBs for the
> garage feed,
> the shower and the outside socket.
>
> If your set up does include MCBs deployed as above it would be a simple
> matter to try
> in turn switching off likely suspects one at a time for ideally two or
> three
> days.
>
> You may be aware that there are also protection devices called RCBOs which
> combine
> the functions of RCD and MCB. Perhaps check that these do not feature
> anywhere in
> your installation?
>
> Hope this helps a little,
>
> Dave Newbitt.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Nottage via Tech1
> Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2023 9:19 AM
> To: tech1
> Subject: [Tech1] RCD Tripping Problem
>
> I have an RCD in the garage which covers the garage sockets, electric
> door & small water fountain in the garden. I have another in the house
> which covers the garage, an outside socket & the shower. Lately the
> house RCD keeps tripping out. I think it seems to coincide with the
> fountain being switched off by it's timer at about 7pm. It doesn't
> happen everyday. I only know it's happened when the shower doesn't work
> or the fountain doesn't come on in the morning. The garage RCD doesn't
> trip, luckily as the garage door still works once I've reset the house RCD!
>
> Can anyone suggest what & how I should test the system to try to narrow
> down the problem, please?
>
> John Nottage
>
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From chris at chriswoolf.co.uk  Thu Aug 31 04:11:33 2023
From: chris at chriswoolf.co.uk (Chris Woolf)
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2023 10:11:33 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] RCD Tripping Problem
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Fountain has to be the obvious one - disconnect.

The preferential tripping is a case of a small current leak, with one 
trip being more sensitive than the other. They might be the same nominal 
rating, but you only need a few mA difference.

Chris Woolf


On 30/08/2023 08:56, Pat Heigham via Tech1 wrote:
>
> Hi John,
>
> RCD's trip if there is a fault in the wiring somewhere.
>
> Do you have a consumer unit with individual circuit breakers for each 
> unit?
> Try switching them all off and one by one turning them on until the 
> RCD trips. That will identify where to inspect further.
>
> Have you got exterior cabling not contained within metal or strong 
> plastic conduit showing signs of squirrel nibbling?
> The little beasts seem to find plastic insulation to be a tasty snack!
>
> I would recommend calling in a qualified electrician - where I live, 
> in one of a small development of purpose-built flats,
> we have to have an electrical safety certificate to satisfy the 
> building insurers. Do your insurers request the same?
>
> Our man was brought in to update our interior lighting for communal 
> hallways and stairs, changing from manual
> wall switches to proximity detectors with back up battery emergency 
> lighting. Also our exterior lights now work
> on ambient light instead of time clocks.
>
> Depending on where you are, I can let you have his contact details.
>
> Pat H
> TVC Tech-ops 1961-68
>
> On 26/08/2023 09:19, John Nottage via Tech1 wrote:
>> I have an RCD in the garage which covers the garage sockets, electric 
>> door & small water fountain in the garden. I have another in the 
>> house which covers the garage, an outside socket & the shower. Lately 
>> the house RCD keeps tripping out. I think it seems to coincide with 
>> the fountain being switched off by it's timer at about 7pm. It 
>> doesn't happen everyday. I only know it's happened when the shower 
>> doesn't work or the fountain doesn't come on in the morning. The 
>> garage RCD doesn't trip, luckily as the garage door still works once 
>> I've reset the house RCD!
>>
>> Can anyone suggest what & how I should test the system to try to 
>> narrow down the problem, please?
>>
>> John Nottage
>>
>
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