From dave.mdv at btinternet.com Wed Feb 2 12:54:20 2022 From: dave.mdv at btinternet.com (dave.mdv) Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2022 18:54:20 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Nice day tomorrow? Message-ID: <75b8920d-d0d5-3a94-b36a-085081f34fa8@btinternet.com> Earlier, from my front garden. Cheers, Dave -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: IMG_6141.JPG Type: image/jpeg Size: 73179 bytes Desc: not available URL: From barrybonner119 at btinternet.com Wed Feb 2 14:31:48 2022 From: barrybonner119 at btinternet.com (Barry Bonner) Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2022 20:31:48 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Nice day tomorrow? In-Reply-To: <75b8920d-d0d5-3a94-b36a-085081f34fa8@btinternet.com> References: <75b8920d-d0d5-3a94-b36a-085081f34fa8@btinternet.com> Message-ID: There?ll be nobody there to enjoy it as this lot are looking for sun elsewhere! Barry. On 2 Feb 2022, at 18:54, dave.mdv via Tech1 wrote: > Earlier, from my front garden. Cheers, Dave > -- > Tech1 mailing list > Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Sky lines.jpg Type: image/jpg Size: 519240 bytes Desc: not available URL: From dnewbitt at fireflyuk.net Wed Feb 2 17:28:09 2022 From: dnewbitt at fireflyuk.net (David Newbitt) Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2022 23:28:09 -0000 Subject: [Tech1] Nice day tomorrow? In-Reply-To: References: <75b8920d-d0d5-3a94-b36a-085081f34fa8@btinternet.com> Message-ID: <64DEA354C7004E35A4DD74AB2040040A@DESKTOP6GGCRV1> Nice to see the injection of a spot of humour! Well done Barry. Hope you?re keeping good. Dave Newbitt. From: Barry Bonner via Tech1 Sent: Wednesday, February 2, 2022 8:31 PM To: Dave Mundy Cc: Phil ; tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk ; Dave Subject: Re: [Tech1] Nice day tomorrow? There?ll be nobody there to enjoy it as this lot are looking for sun elsewhere! Barry. On 2 Feb 2022, at 18:54, dave.mdv via Tech1 wrote: Earlier, from my front garden. Cheers, Dave -- Tech1 mailing list Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Tech1 mailing list Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Sky lines.jpg Type: image/jpg Size: 519240 bytes Desc: not available URL: From grahamthecameraman at icloud.com Thu Feb 3 03:26:38 2022 From: grahamthecameraman at icloud.com (Graham Maunder) Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2022 17:26:38 +0800 Subject: [Tech1] Beijing Olympics Message-ID: The amount of money that China has spent on these games is extraordinary. They?re even using Gold Ingots as ballast in the Mixed Zone at the Alpine events!!! It?s also colder here than in my freezer at home! A chilly minus 26C yesterday.. Stay safe everyone Graham Maunder Sent from my iPhone > On 3 Feb 2022, at 07:29, David Newbitt via Tech1 wrote: > > ? > Nice to see the injection of a spot of humour! Well done Barry. > > Hope you?re keeping good. > > Dave Newbitt. > > From: Barry Bonner via Tech1 > Sent: Wednesday, February 2, 2022 8:31 PM > To: Dave Mundy > Cc: Phil ; tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk ; Dave > Subject: Re: [Tech1] Nice day tomorrow? > > There?ll be nobody there to enjoy it as this lot are looking for sun elsewhere! > Barry. > > > >> On 2 Feb 2022, at 18:54, dave.mdv via Tech1 wrote: >> >> Earlier, from my front garden. 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Well done Barry. >> Hope you?re keeping good. >> Dave Newbitt. >> *From:* Barry Bonner via Tech1 >> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 2, 2022 8:31 PM >> *To:* Dave Mundy >> *Cc:* Phil ; tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk ; Dave >> *Subject:* Re: [Tech1] Nice day tomorrow? >> There?ll be nobody there to enjoy it as this lot are looking for sun >> elsewhere! >> Barry. >> >> On 2 Feb 2022, at 18:54, dave.mdv via Tech1 wrote: >> >>> Earlier, from my front garden. Cheers, Dave >>> -- >>> Tech1 mailing list >>> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk >>> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> -- >> Tech1 mailing list >> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk >> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk >> -- >> Tech1 mailing list >> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk >> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Pat Sent from Mail for Windows From: Bernard Newnham via Tech1 Sent: 03 February 2022 09:39 To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk Subject: Re: [Tech1] Beijing Olympics But no snow? B On 03/02/2022 09:26, Graham Maunder via Tech1 wrote: The amount of money that China has spent on these games is extraordinary. They?re even using Gold Ingots as ballast in the Mixed Zone at the Alpine events!!! It?s also colder here than in my freezer at home! A chilly minus 26C yesterday.. Stay safe everyone? Graham Maunder Sent from my iPhone? -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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A chilly minus 26C yesterday.. >> >> Stay safe everyone >> >> Graham Maunder >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On 3 Feb 2022, at 07:29, David Newbitt via Tech1 wrote: >>> >>> ? >>> Nice to see the injection of a spot of humour! Well done Barry. >>> >>> Hope you?re keeping good. >>> >>> Dave Newbitt. >>> >>> From: Barry Bonner via Tech1 >>> Sent: Wednesday, February 2, 2022 8:31 PM >>> To: Dave Mundy >>> Cc: Phil ; tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk ; Dave >>> Subject: Re: [Tech1] Nice day tomorrow? >>> >>> There?ll be nobody there to enjoy it as this lot are looking for sun elsewhere! >>> Barry. >>> >>> >>> >>> On 2 Feb 2022, at 18:54, dave.mdv via Tech1 wrote: >>> >>>> Earlier, from my front garden. Cheers, Dave >>>> -- >>>> Tech1 mailing list >>>> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk >>>> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk >>> >>> -- >>> Tech1 mailing list >>> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk >>> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk >>> -- >>> Tech1 mailing list >>> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk >>> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk >> > > -- > Tech1 mailing list > Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image0.jpeg Type: image/jpeg Size: 876988 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image0.jpeg Type: image/jpeg Size: 558045 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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This was more than possible as I was on a Fisher boom, chocked up on a frozen roadway! Today?s H & S would have banned it! Good fun, and I learned how to drive in snow and ice, with and without chains, as each department had a self drive Fiat car to ferry ourselves about. Pat Sent from Mail for Windows From: Graham Maunder via Tech1 Sent: 03 February 2022 13:10 To: Bernard Newnham Cc: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk Subject: Re: [Tech1] Beijing Olympics Plenty of snow on the courses but all man made. Billions of gallons of water used and a beautiful nature reserves ruined for 2 weeks of sport?.. Graham? -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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There was a deal where for ?50, they would hire you all the gear you needed for the duration of the games ( it might have been $50 as it could have been a special deal negotiated by CBS - can?t remember for sure ). As we were working long days, the shift pattern was four days on followed by either one or two days off, so it gave plenty of opportunities for skiing. It was good fun. I was glad to have experienced working on the Winter Olympics, but along with summer Olympics and the World Cup, doing it once was enough for me. The voice-over artist who I worked with a lot ( William Mercer, usually known as Rosko ) asked me how I would sum up the Winter Olympics in 30 seconds. I simply said ?28 ways of sliding?. He was greatly amused by it and used that expression in a recorded link, but his producer refused to transmit it as they had paid millions of dollars to the rights to televise it and they didn?t want it trivialised. Alan Taylor -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pat.heigham at amps.net Thu Feb 3 09:53:35 2022 From: pat.heigham at amps.net (patheigham) Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2022 15:53:35 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Beijing Olympics In-Reply-To: <7A370FAE-CB68-4F0A-AA2D-D9D78F9F871F@me.com> References: <61fbdf0c.1c69fb81.4fb30.0ae2@mx.google.com> <7A370FAE-CB68-4F0A-AA2D-D9D78F9F871F@me.com> Message-ID: <61fbfa7f.1c69fb81.d0d83.1665@mx.google.com> Further to my posting about ?Skiboy? the company equipped us with decent anoraks, but offered boots, either Derryboots, or padded Snow boots. The latter were much better, as the Derryboots did not have the insulation against cold, cold snow! They also gave us snowshoes, like tennis rackets on your feet. These were useless as when the poor grips with a box in each hand, sank in the snow up to his thighs. Much better to have a crew which could ski! Pat Sent from Mail for Windows From: Alan Taylor via Tech1 Sent: 03 February 2022 14:51 To: tech1 Subject: Re: [Tech1] Beijing Olympics On 3 Feb 2022, at 13:57, patheigham via Tech1 wrote: . My mixer and I were keen skiers, but the company forbade us to ski ? stupid, it was the best way to move around on the slopes. When I did the 1992 Winter Olympics, the Olympic accreditation also acted as a pass for all the ski lifts etc. As virtually no holidaymakers were staying in the area, the ski hire companies were scarcely doing any trade. There was a deal where for ?50, they would hire you all the gear you needed for the duration of the games ( it might have been $50 as it could have been a special deal negotiated by CBS - can?t remember for sure ). Alan Taylor -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Timing wise the plane was a little late and with the camera in the plane we could see the jumper waiting by the open door and Stewart was getting more nad more frustrated about the delay in the jump and was heard to order the production person on board to 'PUSH HIM OUT!'. Happy days. Cheers, Dave On 03/02/2022 16:30, David Newbitt via Tech1 wrote: > Hi Bernie, > On the Tech Ops History site, I find my browsers can?t find the link. > Eurovision 77 > This one however does take me there:- > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTgCLfYdRo4 > Might it be worth updating the site? Too good a reminder to miss. > Dave Newbitt. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Timing wise the plane was a little late and with the camera in the plane we could see the jumper waiting by the open door and Stewart was getting more nad more frustrated about the delay in the jump and was heard to order the production person on board to 'PUSH HIM OUT!'. Happy days. Cheers, Dave. PS. I went to his funeral and it was packed, and with many ladies in tears! From dave.mdv at btinternet.com Thu Feb 3 15:00:53 2022 From: dave.mdv at btinternet.com (dave.mdv) Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2022 21:00:53 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Stewart Morris Message-ID: <6d32b152-a055-59d4-b9c9-4db22fcbf969@btinternet.com> Apologies for the repetition, I didn't think I had sent it to the news goup! Cheers, Dave From dave.mdv at btinternet.com Thu Feb 3 15:07:18 2022 From: dave.mdv at btinternet.com (dave.mdv) Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2022 21:07:18 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Social manners Message-ID: <772354ba-d0f9-888b-86c0-f602fed9ea07@btinternet.com> Many years ago, before I joined the Beeb, I worked in a factory where the week was set in stone! On Monday everyone talked about their weekend, Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday, work as normal, Friday was preparation day for pay day and the fun of what might or might not happen on Friday night or Saturday. The first tea break on Monday there were many stories of conquests and achievements but there was always one person who had a better story to tell (or so he thought!) In the end, it became so predictable that he was told to STFU! and that cured him! Cheers, Dave From mikej at bmanor.co.uk Thu Feb 3 15:59:47 2022 From: mikej at bmanor.co.uk (Mike Jordan) Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2022 21:59:47 -0000 Subject: [Tech1] Stewart Morris In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: My only memory of that Euro song contest at the Wembley Conference Centre (as was) was of manning the radio links and looking after lines and afterwards we all got invited to a gathering with drinks etc (similar to number 10 working garden party?). Everyone including the R/Ds had to wear dinner jackets. I guess we must have been required to hire one. I vaguely think I still have my pass somewhere so will seek it out - though doubtless not working any more. Mike -----Original Message----- From: dave.mdv via Tech1 Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2022 8:57 PM To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk Subject: [Tech1] Stewart Morris Many thanks Dave, for that reminder of the great man! Luckily, I wasn't on the Wembley Euro song contest, I had to wait until Harrogate some time later where there was not quite so much shouting. The Commonwealth Games in Edinburgh gave us a few classic Stewart moments! One of our clever sound chaps hid a video camera in the production gallery of the transmission vehicle and recorded the great man in action! Our favourite moment was during the opening ceremony when a parachutist was was supposed to arrive in the arena at that start of proceedings. Timing wise the plane was a little late and with the camera in the plane we could see the jumper waiting by the open door and Stewart was getting more nad more frustrated about the delay in the jump and was heard to order the production person on board to 'PUSH HIM OUT!'. Happy days. Cheers, Dave. PS. I went to his funeral and it was packed, and with many ladies in tears! From dnewbitt at fireflyuk.net Thu Feb 3 18:18:08 2022 From: dnewbitt at fireflyuk.net (David Newbitt) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2022 00:18:08 -0000 Subject: [Tech1] Stewart Morris In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7831D01F8BCC45CFBE58920E2899B7B4@DESKTOP6GGCRV1> Dave, I'm blown away that you attended the funeral. Did you by any chance keep the Order of Service? I copied and kept the obituaries from The Times & The Telegraph, the former being the more comprehensive of the two and I'm attaching it for any who might have missed it but would like to indulge. I worked on a great many of Stewart's shows from which I have a particular item of memorabilia. Following one of the more spectacularly stupid decisions in my younger days I left the Beeb for a spell. My last show before leaving was a Rolf Harris & YG production with Stewart at the helm in the TVT. After the show some gathered on stage, Stewart said a few nice words, there'd been a whip round and this was passed to me by the great man together with a good luck card. I still have the card - sadly tarnished by Rolf's fall from grace. I've also attached this and it is signed by Rolf (together with his signature cartoon), Stewart with his thanks and well wishes, and signatures from the following crew and cast figures: Frank Rose Len Shorey Bish Ron Peverall Geoff Clark Dick Greening Tony Milton Peter Rose Dave Beer Doug Puddifoot Angus Plowman Mike Fenner Ray Williams David W Johnston >From the YG just two, Lynda Herbert and top left 'Love, Jane' - Lynda's sister who I was secretly crazy about.They lived at West Byfleet which I regularly drove through en route to my parents in Somerset but don't remember ever spotting either of them! I subsequently returned to the Beeb, albeit a grade lower, but there is a price to be paid for idiocy! Dave Newbitt. -----Original Message----- From: dave.mdv via Tech1 Sent: Thursday, February 3, 2022 8:57 PM To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk Subject: [Tech1] Stewart Morris Many thanks Dave, for that reminder of the great man! Luckily, I wasn't on the Wembley Euro song contest, I had to wait until Harrogate some time later where there was not quite so much shouting. The Commonwealth Games in Edinburgh gave us a few classic Stewart moments! One of our clever sound chaps hid a video camera in the production gallery of the transmission vehicle and recorded the great man in action! Our favourite moment was during the opening ceremony when a parachutist was was supposed to arrive in the arena at that start of proceedings. Timing wise the plane was a little late and with the camera in the plane we could see the jumper waiting by the open door and Stewart was getting more nad more frustrated about the delay in the jump and was heard to order the production person on board to 'PUSH HIM OUT!'. Happy days. Cheers, Dave. PS. I went to his funeral and it was packed, and with many ladies in tears! -- Tech1 mailing list Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Stewart Morris obituary The Times.docx Type: application/vnd.openxmlformats-officedocument.wordprocessingml.document Size: 2529087 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Good luck card.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 536108 bytes Desc: not available URL: From alanaudio at me.com Thu Feb 3 18:28:46 2022 From: alanaudio at me.com (Alan Taylor) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2022 00:28:46 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Stewart Morris In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <84932F1F-79FC-426A-82F8-DA7477660F4E@me.com> > On 3 Feb 2022, at 22:23, Mike Jordan via Tech1 wrote: > > Everyone including the R/Ds had to wear dinner jackets. I guess we must have been required to hire one. > It was quite a routine thing on OB life to need to wear a DJ or even a morning suit for Ascot ( including top hat of course ). If you owned your own, you could claim a modest allowance for cleaning and wear & tear. Otherwise you had to go off to Moss Bros in Covent Garden to get measured up to get one on the BBC account. The Covent Garden branch was a bit like Grace Brothers, but for many years there was a sales assistant in the formal hire dept who had the most curious hairstyle. It was quite flamboyant, sculpted into an impressive wave on top of his head, but I assume that his natural hair wouldn?t do what he wanted. To create the desired look, he used what I assumed to be a sausage of cotton wool, coloured to match his hair and swept his hair over it. It probably optimised to look good enough in the mirror, but was a bit strange to onlookers from other angles. It was tempting to come up with some sort of ruse to get him to bend down so you could work out just what was happening with his hair style. When I worked on the MSC ( Mobile Sound Control van ) it was quite spacious, with no windows, therefore it was a popular place for crew members to change out of their civvies and into their DJs. One thing which was frequently overlooked was that dress shirt cuffs require cuff links and Moss Bros didn?t supply them. I used to save the bifurcated paper clips from the corner of scripts so that people could clip their cuffs together if they forgot to bring their own cuff links. Most of the crew asked for clip-on bow ties, but I have always preferred tying one properly. Aided and abetted by Clive Potter, who wore a bow tie all the time and with help from a few others, we taught crew members how to tie a proper bow tie. We also had giveaway photocopied instructions for people to take away and practice for next time. Over the years, some of them switched away from clip-ons. I remember Richard Baker wandering into the MSC prior to a show and spotted a young member of the sound crew tying a bow tie. Richard expressed his approval and said ?Definitely an officer in the making?. Morning suits were problematical. No issues with the suit, but there is no way to wear headphones with a top hat. We always brought a plentiful supply of earpieces for the crew to use with radios or to plug into cameras. The riggers loved formal hire. It meant they didn?t get their own clothes mucky in the derig. Alan Taylor From dave.mdv at btinternet.com Thu Feb 3 18:58:02 2022 From: dave.mdv at btinternet.com (dave.mdv) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2022 00:58:02 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Formal wear In-Reply-To: <84932F1F-79FC-426A-82F8-DA7477660F4E@me.com> References: <84932F1F-79FC-426A-82F8-DA7477660F4E@me.com> Message-ID: I remember having to wear a morning suit for Royal Ascot to be able to access our in-vision position on 'windy corner' with Julian Wilson. Very often we got so-called hot-tips from people associated with the various racing stables on their way to the bar nearby. I never won a penny from any of their tips! Julian came back in a foul mood one day and I said jokingly - 'lost again Julian?' - he replied 'I never lose!' So, why didn't he give the crew the benefit of his knowledge and let us all have a little bonus? I was in the Royal enclosure one day and reversed a bit to let a posh lady pass by and nearly bumped into HMQ! Cheers, Dave On 04/02/2022 00:28, Alan Taylor via Tech1 wrote: >> On 3 Feb 2022, at 22:23, Mike Jordan via Tech1 wrote: >> >> Everyone including the R/Ds had to wear dinner jackets. I guess we must have been required to hire one. >> > It was quite a routine thing on OB life to need to wear a DJ or even a morning suit for Ascot ( including top hat of course ). If you owned your own, you could claim a modest allowance for cleaning and wear & tear. Otherwise you had to go off to Moss Bros in Covent Garden to get measured up to get one on the BBC account. > > The Covent Garden branch was a bit like Grace Brothers, but for many years there was a sales assistant in the formal hire dept who had the most curious hairstyle. It was quite flamboyant, sculpted into an impressive wave on top of his head, but I assume that his natural hair wouldn?t do what he wanted. To create the desired look, he used what I assumed to be a sausage of cotton wool, coloured to match his hair and swept his hair over it. It probably optimised to look good enough in the mirror, but was a bit strange to onlookers from other angles. It was tempting to come up with some sort of ruse to get him to bend down so you could work out just what was happening with his hair style. > > When I worked on the MSC ( Mobile Sound Control van ) it was quite spacious, with no windows, therefore it was a popular place for crew members to change out of their civvies and into their DJs. One thing which was frequently overlooked was that dress shirt cuffs require cuff links and Moss Bros didn?t supply them. I used to save the bifurcated paper clips from the corner of scripts so that people could clip their cuffs together if they forgot to bring their own cuff links. > > Most of the crew asked for clip-on bow ties, but I have always preferred tying one properly. Aided and abetted by Clive Potter, who wore a bow tie all the time and with help from a few others, we taught crew members how to tie a proper bow tie. We also had giveaway photocopied instructions for people to take away and practice for next time. Over the years, some of them switched away from clip-ons. I remember Richard Baker wandering into the MSC prior to a show and spotted a young member of the sound crew tying a bow tie. Richard expressed his approval and said ?Definitely an officer in the making?. > > Morning suits were problematical. No issues with the suit, but there is no way to wear headphones with a top hat. We always brought a plentiful supply of earpieces for the crew to use with radios or to plug into cameras. > > The riggers loved formal hire. It meant they didn?t get their own clothes mucky in the derig. > > Alan Taylor > > > From mikej at bmanor.co.uk Fri Feb 4 03:48:28 2022 From: mikej at bmanor.co.uk (Mike Jordan) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2022 09:48:28 -0000 Subject: [Tech1] Can't beat old technology Message-ID: <4E6694A2E60E4442B247001C1DBC18AD@Gigabyte> >From Yesterdays Guardian. Love the high-tech camera with all the add-on bits including what looks like a mic stand for reverse vision/cue monitor. However the best bit is the sunscreen jacket being held up. I haven?t used my ex-TFI Friday/EM Lastolite for an absolute age. Don?t you just like the camera/mic enclosure sometimes seen across the road from 10 Downing Street party entrance? Ever seen so many squeeze-in rigged high power lamps and people? Mike -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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On 04/02/2022 10:20, Nick Ware via Tech1 wrote: > Just for fun I switched to LBC radio to see how long it would take James O?Brian to say the word ?Boris?, starting a stopwatch as I did so. It took him 6.8 seconds. It took me 1.3 seconds to switch him off. > Cheers, > N. > Nick Ware - From my iPad mini 6 07802-246088 From dnewbitt at fireflyuk.net Fri Feb 4 04:34:08 2022 From: dnewbitt at fireflyuk.net (David Newbitt) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2022 10:34:08 -0000 Subject: [Tech1] LBC In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3E4B9E1D61AB4642942C34146D039C3A@DESKTOP6GGCRV1> Is that because James O'Brian gets on your nerves or because criticism of Boris gets on your nerves? Or maybe you've just got fed up with Boris being the only topical news! Dave Newbitt. -----Original Message----- From: Nick Ware via Tech1 Sent: Friday, February 4, 2022 10:20 AM To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk Subject: [Tech1] LBC Just for fun I switched to LBC radio to see how long it would take James O?Brian to say the word ?Boris?, starting a stopwatch as I did so. It took him 6.8 seconds. It took me 1.3 seconds to switch him off. Cheers, N. Nick Ware - From my iPad mini 6 07802-246088 -- Tech1 mailing list Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk From jpbarlow at btopenworld.com Fri Feb 4 04:39:35 2022 From: jpbarlow at btopenworld.com (jpbarlow at btopenworld.com) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2022 10:39:35 -0000 Subject: [Tech1] {Tech1} LBC Message-ID: <015801d819b3$80c4ef60$824ece20$@btopenworld.com> Of course people are going to want to talk about him. Here are a few favourite notes to remember when deciding who you want to lead the Conservative Party. 1. In 2018, Boris Johnson, told the DUP "no British government could or should" sign up to putting a border in the Irish Sea between mainland United Kingdom and Northern Ireland - less than one year later he put a border in the Irish Sea 2. Kuensberg reports that in2006 he said on Booktalk * "I've got a brilliant new strategy, which is to make so many gaffes that nobody knows which one to concentrate on," * "They cease to be newsworthy, you completely out-general the media in that way, and they despair." * "You shell them, you pepper the media... you've got to pepper their positions with so many gaffes that they're confused. * 2002 Telegraph 3. No doubt the AK47s will fall silent, and the pangas will stop their hacking of human flesh, and the warriors will break out in watermelon smiles to see the big white chief touch down in his big white British taxpayer-funded bird. 4. 2002 Spectator on Africa * The continent may be a blot, but it is not a blot upon our conscience. The problem is not that we were once in charge, but that we are not in charge any more. 5. He has called gay men "bumboys," and compared Muslim women to "letterboxes." 6. In one column he labeled black Africans "piccaninnies" with "watermelon smiles." 7. He suggested that Malaysian women only go to university "to find men to marry." 8. Former Tory leader Lord Michael Howard sacked Johnson back in September 2004 for appearing to publicly lie about an affair he had with his colleague, a Spectator journalist Petronella Wyatt. 9. As Mayor of London he promised to totally eradicate rough sleeping by 2012; it doubled under his leadership. His 2008 manifesto promised there would be manned ticket offices at every station; he closed all of London's ticket offices. He aimed to reduce transport fares; they increased by 4.2 per cent 10. 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Did you do a similar check on every other topical show on radio and TV? >> >>>> On 04/02/2022 10:20, Nick Ware via Tech1 wrote: >>> Just for fun I switched to LBC radio to see how long it would take James O?Brian to say the word ?Boris?, starting a stopwatch as I did so. It took him 6.8 seconds. It took me 1.3 seconds to switch him off. >>> Cheers, >>> N. >>> Nick Ware - From my iPad mini 6 07802-246088 >> >> -- >> Tech1 mailing list >> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk >> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk From dnewbitt at fireflyuk.net Fri Feb 4 09:29:03 2022 From: dnewbitt at fireflyuk.net (David Newbitt) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2022 15:29:03 -0000 Subject: [Tech1] LBC In-Reply-To: References: <98d4ebee-6265-a082-9734-419fb8a533ee@btinternet.com> Message-ID: Being serious rather than flippant, your entirely justified priority concerns re Russia and China presumably extend to the hope that we might have sufficient clout to influence the path they are treading. Our ability to be a significant presence in the diplomatic negotiation processes is, sadly, already reduced from what it might once have been so the current situation on the home front, until resolved, pretty much leaves us on the sidelines. Hence the inevitable media (and indeed public) focus on Boris - surely understandable in all the circumstances. Dave Newbitt. -----Original Message----- From: Nick Ware via Tech1 Sent: Friday, February 4, 2022 12:23 PM To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk Subject: Re: [Tech1] LBC Nope. Better things to be doing. To be honest, more concerned about Russia and China at the moment. > N. > > Nick Ware - From my iPad mini 6 07802-246088 > >> On 4 Feb 2022, at 10:30, Dave Plowman via Tech1 >> wrote: >> >> ?Given it is - for most - the topic his listeners would like to discuss >> this morning, what would you expect him to do? Did you do a similar check >> on every other topical show on radio and TV? >> >>>> On 04/02/2022 10:20, Nick Ware via Tech1 wrote: >>> Just for fun I switched to LBC radio to see how long it would take James >>> O?Brian to say the word ?Boris?, starting a stopwatch as I did so. It >>> took him 6.8 seconds. It took me 1.3 seconds to switch him off. >>> Cheers, >>> N. >>> Nick Ware - From my iPad mini 6 07802-246088 >> >> -- >> Tech1 mailing list >> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk >> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk -- Tech1 mailing list Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk From relong at btinternet.com Fri Feb 4 11:44:48 2022 From: relong at btinternet.com (Roger E Long) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2022 17:44:48 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] LBC In-Reply-To: References: <98d4ebee-6265-a082-9734-419fb8a533ee@btinternet.com> Message-ID: Russia and China are antagonists and always have been Russia has an economy the size of Spain.. but all oil n Gas. Boris is in a mess, but essentially a media frenzy over parties and cake. Nobody reads papers anymore ,and few believe the broadcasters opinions. The US is sidelined after the disaster of Afghan withdraw Any body would think we have just experienced a frightening World Pandemic?. > On 4 Feb 2022, at 15:29, David Newbitt via Tech1 wrote: > > Being serious rather than flippant, your entirely justified priority concerns re Russia and China presumably extend to the hope that we might have sufficient clout to influence the path they are treading. Our ability to be a significant presence in the diplomatic negotiation processes is, sadly, already reduced from what it might once have been so the current situation on the home front, until resolved, pretty much leaves us on the sidelines. Hence the inevitable media (and indeed public) focus on Boris - surely understandable in all the circumstances. > > Dave Newbitt. > > -----Original Message----- From: Nick Ware via Tech1 > Sent: Friday, February 4, 2022 12:23 PM > To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > Subject: Re: [Tech1] LBC > > Nope. Better things to be doing. To be honest, more concerned about Russia and China at the moment. >> N. >> >> Nick Ware - From my iPad mini 6 07802-246088 >> >>> On 4 Feb 2022, at 10:30, Dave Plowman via Tech1 wrote: >>> >>> ?Given it is - for most - the topic his listeners would like to discuss this morning, what would you expect him to do? Did you do a similar check on every other topical show on radio and TV? >>> >>>>> On 04/02/2022 10:20, Nick Ware via Tech1 wrote: >>>> Just for fun I switched to LBC radio to see how long it would take James O?Brian to say the word ?Boris?, starting a stopwatch as I did so. It took him 6.8 seconds. It took me 1.3 seconds to switch him off. >>>> Cheers, >>>> N. >>>> Nick Ware - From my iPad mini 6 07802-246088 >>> >>> -- >>> Tech1 mailing list >>> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk >>> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk > -- > Tech1 mailing list > Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk > > -- > Tech1 mailing list > Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk From alanaudio at me.com Fri Feb 4 12:19:39 2022 From: alanaudio at me.com (Alan Taylor) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2022 18:19:39 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] LBC In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I was brought up to believe that the big threat was Russia and they were planning to invade Europe. When I actually spent some time in Russia, I came to the conclusion that although they had manpower and firepower, they didn?t have the organisational ability to sustain a prolonged invasion of sophisticated countries. Russia at that time embraced many nations and their army was multicultural, with soldiers coming from areas adjacent to Finland, China and Turkey. You could see these different races represented in the Army, but the officers were almost exclusively ?proper Russians?. It didn?t look to me like an army which could be a successful occupying army as it was struggling to hold itself together in peace time. I was also brought up to believe that China was something of a third world nation and anything but sophisticated. When I spent some time in China I came to the conclusion that China was an advanced civilisation and had the resources, manpower, technology and organisational ability to do almost anything they set out to do. China has its own orbiting space station, built by China, not an international effort. They build roads, bridges, railway lines and large buildings incredibly rapidly. Chinese aircraft are very advanced. China also plays the long game, putting pieces into place ready for when they want to make a move. As far as threats to world peace are concerned, I?m much more concerned about China than Russia. The worst case scenario would for them to act in unison. China invading Taiwan at the same time as Russia invading Ukraine, with a side order of North Korean mischief. Alan Taylor > On 4 Feb 2022, at 17:45, Roger E Long via Tech1 wrote: > > ?Russia and China are antagonists and always have been > Russia has an economy the size of Spain.. but all oil n Gas. > Boris is in a mess, but essentially a media frenzy over parties and cake. > Nobody reads papers anymore ,and few believe the broadcasters opinions. > The US is sidelined after the disaster of Afghan withdraw > Any body would think we have just experienced a frightening World Pandemic?. > >> On 4 Feb 2022, at 15:29, David Newbitt via Tech1 wrote: >> >> Being serious rather than flippant, your entirely justified priority concerns re Russia and China presumably extend to the hope that we might have sufficient clout to influence the path they are treading. Our ability to be a significant presence in the diplomatic negotiation processes is, sadly, already reduced from what it might once have been so the current situation on the home front, until resolved, pretty much leaves us on the sidelines. Hence the inevitable media (and indeed public) focus on Boris - surely understandable in all the circumstances. >> >> Dave Newbitt. >> >> -----Original Message----- From: Nick Ware via Tech1 >> Sent: Friday, February 4, 2022 12:23 PM >> To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk >> Subject: Re: [Tech1] LBC >> >> Nope. Better things to be doing. To be honest, more concerned about Russia and China at the moment. >>> N. >>> >>> Nick Ware - From my iPad mini 6 07802-246088 >>> >>>> On 4 Feb 2022, at 10:30, Dave Plowman via Tech1 wrote: >>>> >>>> ?Given it is - for most - the topic his listeners would like to discuss this morning, what would you expect him to do? Did you do a similar check on every other topical show on radio and TV? >>>> >>>>>> On 04/02/2022 10:20, Nick Ware via Tech1 wrote: >>>>> Just for fun I switched to LBC radio to see how long it would take James O?Brian to say the word ?Boris?, starting a stopwatch as I did so. It took him 6.8 seconds. It took me 1.3 seconds to switch him off. >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> N. >>>>> Nick Ware - From my iPad mini 6 07802-246088 >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Tech1 mailing list >>>> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk >>>> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk >> -- >> Tech1 mailing list >> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk >> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk >> >> -- >> Tech1 mailing list >> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk >> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk > > > -- > Tech1 mailing list > Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk From dnewbitt at fireflyuk.net Fri Feb 4 12:20:20 2022 From: dnewbitt at fireflyuk.net (David Newbitt) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2022 18:20:20 -0000 Subject: [Tech1] LBC In-Reply-To: References: <98d4ebee-6265-a082-9734-419fb8a533ee@btinternet.com> Message-ID: <63C0A4F282D549CFB4D8D85A17AB1CC5@DESKTOP6GGCRV1> Russia might well say "never mind the size of our economy - have you seen the size of our military?" China might well say "my enemy's enemy is my friend". The two of them together (at least while that's expedient for the two of them) are one side of a massive stand off situation which surely can't be ignored by suggesting media frenzy and public disillusionment with broadcasters opinions. At least some broadcasters are giving informed insights and reporting current affairs from a baseline of accuracy rather than opinion. Don't see how the USA can be considered as sidelined - they are by definition the other side of the stand off, notwithstanding domestic political chaos. The whole thing is a dangerous game which could go horribly wrong. Dave Newbitt. -----Original Message----- From: Roger E Long via Tech1 Sent: Friday, February 4, 2022 5:44 PM To: David Newbitt Cc: tech1 Subject: Re: [Tech1] LBC Russia and China are antagonists and always have been Russia has an economy the size of Spain.. but all oil n Gas. Boris is in a mess, but essentially a media frenzy over parties and cake. Nobody reads papers anymore ,and few believe the broadcasters opinions. The US is sidelined after the disaster of Afghan withdraw Any body would think we have just experienced a frightening World Pandemic?. > On 4 Feb 2022, at 15:29, David Newbitt via Tech1 > wrote: > > Being serious rather than flippant, your entirely justified priority > concerns re Russia and China presumably extend to the hope that we might > have sufficient clout to influence the path they are treading. Our ability > to be a significant presence in the diplomatic negotiation processes is, > sadly, already reduced from what it might once have been so the current > situation on the home front, until resolved, pretty much leaves us on the > sidelines. Hence the inevitable media (and indeed public) focus on Boris - > surely understandable in all the circumstances. > > Dave Newbitt. > > -----Original Message----- From: Nick Ware via Tech1 > Sent: Friday, February 4, 2022 12:23 PM > To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > Subject: Re: [Tech1] LBC > > Nope. Better things to be doing. To be honest, more concerned about Russia > and China at the moment. >> N. >> >> Nick Ware - From my iPad mini 6 07802-246088 >> >>> On 4 Feb 2022, at 10:30, Dave Plowman via Tech1 >>> wrote: >>> >>> ?Given it is - for most - the topic his listeners would like to discuss >>> this morning, what would you expect him to do? Did you do a similar >>> check on every other topical show on radio and TV? >>> >>>>> On 04/02/2022 10:20, Nick Ware via Tech1 wrote: >>>> Just for fun I switched to LBC radio to see how long it would take >>>> James O?Brian to say the word ?Boris?, starting a stopwatch as I did >>>> so. It took him 6.8 seconds. It took me 1.3 seconds to switch him off. >>>> Cheers, >>>> N. >>>> Nick Ware - From my iPad mini 6 07802-246088 >>> >>> -- >>> Tech1 mailing list >>> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk >>> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk > -- > Tech1 mailing list > Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk > > -- > Tech1 mailing list > Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk -- Tech1 mailing list Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk From relong at btinternet.com Fri Feb 4 12:45:30 2022 From: relong at btinternet.com (Roger E Long) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2022 18:45:30 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] LBC In-Reply-To: <63C0A4F282D549CFB4D8D85A17AB1CC5@DESKTOP6GGCRV1> References: <98d4ebee-6265-a082-9734-419fb8a533ee@btinternet.com> <63C0A4F282D549CFB4D8D85A17AB1CC5@DESKTOP6GGCRV1> Message-ID: The Cold War was a dangerous game that could have gone horribly wrong, but luckily we survived. China and Russia might act in unison and encroach Taiwan and Donbass. That would be a mighty gamble and might stir civil war in China and Guerrilla non symmetrical terror in Ukraine. What would be the gain ? The US is in political turmoil but still a huge military industrial complex. Its Navy and AirPower unmatched in experience and reach. Pretty similar to the Cold War, only China is the unknown, and it rarely exceeds its borders historically. > On 4 Feb 2022, at 18:20, David Newbitt wrote: > > Russia might well say "never mind the size of our economy - have you seen the size of our military?" China might well say "my enemy's enemy is my friend". The two of them together (at least while that's expedient for the two of them) are one side of a massive stand off situation which surely can't be ignored by suggesting media frenzy and public disillusionment with broadcasters opinions. At least some broadcasters are giving informed insights and reporting current affairs from a baseline of accuracy rather than opinion. Don't see how the USA can be considered as sidelined - they are by definition the other side of the stand off, notwithstanding domestic political chaos. The whole thing is a dangerous game which could go horribly wrong. > > Dave Newbitt. > > -----Original Message----- From: Roger E Long via Tech1 > Sent: Friday, February 4, 2022 5:44 PM > To: David Newbitt > Cc: tech1 > Subject: Re: [Tech1] LBC > > Russia and China are antagonists and always have been > Russia has an economy the size of Spain.. but all oil n Gas. > Boris is in a mess, but essentially a media frenzy over parties and cake. > Nobody reads papers anymore ,and few believe the broadcasters opinions. > The US is sidelined after the disaster of Afghan withdraw > Any body would think we have just experienced a frightening World Pandemic?. > >> On 4 Feb 2022, at 15:29, David Newbitt via Tech1 wrote: >> >> Being serious rather than flippant, your entirely justified priority concerns re Russia and China presumably extend to the hope that we might have sufficient clout to influence the path they are treading. Our ability to be a significant presence in the diplomatic negotiation processes is, sadly, already reduced from what it might once have been so the current situation on the home front, until resolved, pretty much leaves us on the sidelines. Hence the inevitable media (and indeed public) focus on Boris - surely understandable in all the circumstances. >> >> Dave Newbitt. >> >> -----Original Message----- From: Nick Ware via Tech1 >> Sent: Friday, February 4, 2022 12:23 PM >> To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk >> Subject: Re: [Tech1] LBC >> >> Nope. Better things to be doing. To be honest, more concerned about Russia and China at the moment. >>> N. >>> >>> Nick Ware - From my iPad mini 6 07802-246088 >>> >>>> On 4 Feb 2022, at 10:30, Dave Plowman via Tech1 wrote: >>>> >>>> ?Given it is - for most - the topic his listeners would like to discuss this morning, what would you expect him to do? Did you do a similar check on every other topical show on radio and TV? >>>> >>>>>> On 04/02/2022 10:20, Nick Ware via Tech1 wrote: >>>>> Just for fun I switched to LBC radio to see how long it would take James O?Brian to say the word ?Boris?, starting a stopwatch as I did so. It took him 6.8 seconds. It took me 1.3 seconds to switch him off. >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> N. >>>>> Nick Ware - From my iPad mini 6 07802-246088 >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Tech1 mailing list >>>> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk >>>> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk >> -- >> Tech1 mailing list >> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk >> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk >> >> -- >> Tech1 mailing list >> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk >> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk > > > -- > Tech1 mailing list > Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk From pat.heigham at amps.net Sat Feb 5 00:14:42 2022 From: pat.heigham at amps.net (patheigham) Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2022 06:14:42 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] LBC In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <61fe15d2.1c69fb81.917ba.12ef@mx.google.com> I was of the opinion that Japan were world leaders in manufacturing in the electronics industry, but practically everything I acquire has ?made in China? now. Even the anti-covid face masks! Almost like a Bond plot where the megalomaniac unleashes a dastardly virus and holds the world to ransom, charging a mountain of money to supply the antidote! (Ah! First part in place, isn?t it?). On another tack, re ?putting pieces into place? ? when working in East Germany, before the wall came down, it was apparent that transport links were already there with well constructed roadways up to the border to the West, even with some of them acting as runways for aircraft. (no central reservation barriers and a turn-out loop at each end, with concealed hangers in the woodlands. ? The cameraman on that trip was a qualified pilot, and tackled the liaison guy, who strenuously denied this ? ?I?m a pilot ? our man said, ?I know what a bloody runway looks like!?). Pat Sent from Mail for Windows From: Alan Taylor via Tech1 Sent: 04 February 2022 18:19 To: tech1 Subject: Re: [Tech1] LBC I was also brought up to believe that China was something of a third world nation and anything but sophisticated. When I spent some time in China I came to the conclusion that China was an advanced civilisation and had the resources, manpower, technology and organisational ability to do almost anything they set out to do. China has its own orbiting space station, built by China, not an international effort. They build roads, bridges, railway lines and large buildings incredibly rapidly. Chinese aircraft are very advanced. China also plays the long game, putting pieces into place ready for when they want to make a move. Alan Taylor -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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We were walking across Waterloo bridge to get a shot of K with the Houses in the background ? he perched on the balustrade and looked down into the water, remarking: ?That would make a good shot for you, if I fell in!? Think we even got a G & T in the members? terrace bar! ?nother story, which I heard about. A party of American tourists were in the main lobby of the House of Commons, when a fellow politician needed to attract the attention of Kinnock, who was passing through. ?Neil!? he yelled, whereupon all the Americans sank to their knees on the floor! (I cannot vouch for the veracity, but it?s a good story! Maybe written by Monkhouse for Ken Dodd). Pat Sent from Mail for Windows From: Mike Jordan via Tech1 Sent: 04 February 2022 09:48 To: Tech-Ops-chit-chat Subject: [Tech1] Can't beat old technology >From Yesterdays Guardian. Love the high-tech camera with all the add-on bits including what looks like a mic stand for reverse vision/cue monitor. However the best bit is the sunscreen jacket being held up. I haven?t used my ex-TFI Friday/EM Lastolite for an absolute age. ? Don?t you just like the camera/mic enclosure sometimes seen across the road from 10 Downing Street party entrance? Ever seen so many squeeze-in rigged high power lamps and people? ? Mike -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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And Tony Lennon to the fore. JohnB From: Tech1 On Behalf Of Roger Long via Tech1 Sent: 06 February 2022 23:33 To: Bernard Newnham Cc: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk Subject: Re: [Tech1] Pic from Facebook That?s Andrew Cruickshank at the bar Dr Finlay?s partner?. I disliked the place , especially the Commissioner?s and the barmen , preferred the smaller clubs at Bush and Ken House or the Grove. AP and Bristol clubs were the best imho Sent from my iPhone On 6 Feb 2022, at 20:00, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 > wrote: ? Someone somewhere was asking the other day if anyone had a picture of the club. Another someone coincidentally has posted one on Facebook Eeee - it takes you back B -- Tech1 mailing list Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk -- Tech1 mailing list Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I frequently went to the club at lunchtime on Wednesdays for a pie and a pint before incarcerating myself in LG Studio R for the afternoon, prepping for Dr.Who. Pat Sent from Mail for Windows From: Roger Long via Tech1 Sent: 06 February 2022 23:33 To: Bernard Newnham Cc: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk Subject: Re: [Tech1] Pic from Facebook That?s Andrew Cruickshank at the bar Dr Finlay?s partner?. I disliked the place , especially the Commissioner?s and the barmen , preferred the smaller clubs at Bush and Ken House or the Grove. AP and Bristol clubs were the best imho Sent from my iPhone On 6 Feb 2022, at 20:00, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 wrote: ? Someone somewhere was asking the other day if anyone had a picture of the club.? Another someone coincidentally has posted one on Facebook Eeee - it takes you back B -- Tech1 mailing list Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: DlraQdcS4otekDtP.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 52580 bytes Desc: not available URL: From pat.heigham at amps.net Mon Feb 7 08:08:48 2022 From: pat.heigham at amps.net (patheigham) Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2022 14:08:48 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] BBC Club and Dr.Who story Message-ID: <620127f0.1c69fb81.aff9.9286@mx.google.com> I was recently asked to join in to a ?bonus? extra commentary item for the DVD release of ?The Ice Warriors?. It was good to link up again with Deborah Watling and Frazer Hines. I related a story involving Deborah. Technicians were discouraged from fraternising with artistes ? BBC protocol rules! On one occasion, I was having a snack in the Club after a Dr. Who rehearsal and Deborah came in with her father, Jack. They asked to share my table, whereupon, she proceeded to play ?footsie? with me under the table! Very sadly Debbie passed away in July 2017, from lung cancer. (pic shows from left: Toby Hadoke (interviewer), Frazer Hines, Debbie Watling, self, Sonny Caldinez (a very large Ice Warrior). Sent from Mail for Windows -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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It fits in with Pat?s topic and is also topical regarding Jimmy Carr. Alan Taylor > On 7 Feb 2022, at 14:20, Alan Taylor wrote: > > ?The barman says ?We don?t serve Time Lords in here.? > > Dr Who walks into the BBC Club bar. > > > > > Alan Taylor > > > > From techtone at protonmail.com Mon Feb 7 14:55:53 2022 From: techtone at protonmail.com (techtone) Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2022 20:55:53 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] BBC Clubs (Was Pic from Facebook) Message-ID: I used to be a member of one of the Club groups based at BH, and after meetings we used to gather in the Langham. IMHO it was by far the best club bar in the 60s. TeaTeaFN - Tony Sent with [ProtonMail](https://protonmail.com/) Secure Email. ------- Original Message ------- On Sunday, February 6th, 2022 at 23:33, Roger Long via Tech1 wrote: > That?s Andrew Cruickshank at the bar > Dr Finlay?s partner?. > I disliked the place , especially the Commissioner?s and the barmen , preferred the smaller clubs at Bush and Ken House or the Grove. > AP and Bristol clubs were the best imho > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On 6 Feb 2022, at 20:00, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 wrote: > >> ? Someone somewhere was asking the other day if anyone had a picture of the club. Another someone coincidentally has posted one on Facebook >> >> Eeee - it takes you back >> >> B -- >> Tech1 mailing list >> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk >> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Pat Sent from Mail for Windows From: techtone via Tech1 Sent: 07 February 2022 20:56 Cc: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk Subject: Re: [Tech1] BBC Clubs (Was Pic from Facebook) I used to be a member of one of the Club groups based at BH, and after meetings we used to gather in the Langham. IMHO it was by far the best club bar in the 60s. TeaTeaFN - Tony Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email. -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From geoff.hawkes134 at gmail.com Mon Feb 7 17:46:41 2022 From: geoff.hawkes134 at gmail.com (Geoffrey Hawkes) Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2022 23:46:41 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] BBC Clubs (Was Pic from Facebook) In-Reply-To: <62019b28.1c69fb81.e3ef.8685@mx.google.com> References: <62019b28.1c69fb81.e3ef.8685@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <46C21730-5E08-482C-B6C8-8325497B9B01@gmail.com> The small bar to the left as I remember was called the Helios Lounge. The only member of club staff I remember was Eric who was quite a character. When I was on attachment to Pres, the Club was a good place to go to on a Saturday afternoon for peace and quiet when we weren?t needed till the early evening trails and weather but had to be within call in case anything cropped up. An alternative occupation was when TK were previewing the feature film (or transferring it to VT, I don?t know which). If it was any good I would sit in Pres A gallery to watch and that was where I first saw the original Pshyco, Geoff > On 7 Feb 2022, at 22:20, patheigham via Tech1 wrote: > > ? > The TVC Club had a small bar off to the left, which was the gathering point for all the LE Directors, Dennis Main Wilson, Duncan Wood etc and many new programmes were coaxed into fruition, which we were grateful to work on, later! > Returning to the main Bar, after a show, it was my turn to get in the next round, and at the counter, one of the make-up girls appeared in a green trouser suit. She looked fabulous and I was stunned enough to offer her a drink on my tab. Going back to our table with the tray of glasses, Johnny Holmes shook his head sadly, saying: ?Much too expensive for you, Pat!? > Probably right! > Pat > > > Sent from Mail for Windows > > From: techtone via Tech1 > Sent: 07 February 2022 20:56 > Cc: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > Subject: Re: [Tech1] BBC Clubs (Was Pic from Facebook) > > I used to be a member of one of the Club groups based at BH, and after meetings we used to gather in the Langham. IMHO it was by far the best club bar in the 60s. > > TeaTeaFN - Tony > > Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email. > > > > > > > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > www.avast.com > > > -- > Tech1 mailing list > Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Cheers, N. Nick Ware - From my iPad mini 6 07802-246088 On 8 Feb 2022, at 22:43, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 wrote: ? Is anyone any good with Blender? I'm looking for a tiny favour - really easy for someone who knows what they are doing, but I just don't seem to be able to manage it Thanks B -- Tech1 mailing list Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From davesound at btinternet.com Wed Feb 9 04:42:15 2022 From: davesound at btinternet.com (Dave Plowman) Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2022 10:42:15 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] What a faff. Message-ID: I have two fluorescent tubes lighting my kitchen? worktops, under the wall cupboards, the tubes concealed by a plinth. Fairly normal. A 6ft and a 3 ft. Does what it says on the tin. One failed, and since all the other lighting in the kitchen is LED, decided to replace them with LED too. All the other lighting is on dimmers, so decided it would be nice to be able to dim those too. Now it is easy to dim a bulb LED with the correct dimmer, but not, it seems LED replacement tubes. Only one company I could find sells them - Ledison LedLights. They are actually low voltage tubes with an external constant current dimmable driver - bit like a florrie tube and ballast - so no different to what I already have. And pricey. But I'd decided it was what I wanted. If you feed the driver mains from an LED dimmer they then dim like other LEDs. Lots of problems with delivery, but over a month after ordering, they arrived. With no instructions. The drivers are obviously a universal type covering more than one tube size, and have several output current settings. Take the 6 ft one as an example. Driver can be switched to 500,700,900 and 1050 mA. Tube says 30w 36-42v. Working out the current from those figures gives 714-833 mA Of course I went back to the Ledison site to look for datasheets etc (that you'd expect to come with the drivers) but can't even find a listing for the make of drivers they've supplied. Most of the drivers they supply are fixed output so provided the correct one is supplied for the tube, easy enough to install with no instructions. Know from? emailing them about delivery you get an idiot answering - even when they do answer. Never been able to get beyond being on hold on the phone. From alanaudio at me.com Wed Feb 9 05:30:39 2022 From: alanaudio at me.com (Alan Taylor) Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2022 11:30:39 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] What a faff. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <085FDEB5-9222-42E3-9655-106F98FF87B4@me.com> Presumably you?ve selected either the 700 or 900 mA setting? I?d be surprised if it made much difference either way. I?ve given up on dimming with LEDs, I?ve had a bit of success, but realise that it?s much simpler to have multiple lights and switch them on selectively to suit whatever I?m doing. Smart lighting works very well and many smart lights are dimmable. I?m very impressed with how it?s worked out for me. You can easily automate things too. I trigger a bedtime automation which initially turns on one light in the living room and a light in the kitchen, followed by others in the landing and bedroom. Over the course of a few minutes, the lights progressively turn off, by which time I should be upstairs. Similarly when one of us arrives home, if it?s dark, the light near the back door automatically comes on as soon as we get within WiFi range and stays on for two minutes. If anybody is tempted to install smart lighting or controls, I would advise holding back for a few months as a new standard called Matter is about to be launched. Matter offers greater interoperability, with individual devices no longer being tied to specific operating systems and most won?t need a hub either. Alan Taylor > On 9 Feb 2022, at 10:42, Dave Plowman via Tech1 wrote: > > ?I have two fluorescent tubes lighting my kitchen worktops, under the wall cupboards, the tubes concealed by a plinth. Fairly normal. A 6ft and a 3 ft. Does what it says on the tin. > > One failed, and since all the other lighting in the kitchen is LED, decided to replace them with LED too. > > All the other lighting is on dimmers, so decided it would be nice to be able to dim those too. > > Now it is easy to dim a bulb LED with the correct dimmer, but not, it seems LED replacement tubes. > > Only one company I could find sells them - Ledison LedLights. > > They are actually low voltage tubes with an external constant current dimmable driver - bit like a florrie tube and ballast - so no different to what I already have. And pricey. But I'd decided it was what I wanted. If you feed the driver mains from an LED dimmer they then dim like other LEDs. > > Lots of problems with delivery, but over a month after ordering, they arrived. With no instructions. The drivers are obviously a universal type covering more than one tube size, and have several output current settings. > > Take the 6 ft one as an example. Driver can be switched to 500,700,900 and 1050 mA. Tube says 30w 36-42v. Working out the current from those figures gives 714-833 mA > > Of course I went back to the Ledison site to look for datasheets etc (that you'd expect to come with the drivers) but can't even find a listing for the make of drivers they've supplied. Most of the drivers they supply are fixed output so provided the correct one is supplied for the tube, easy enough to install with no instructions. > > Know from emailing them about delivery you get an idiot answering - even when they do answer. Never been able to get beyond being on hold on the phone. > > > -- > Tech1 mailing list > Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk From graeme.wall at icloud.com Wed Feb 9 05:46:01 2022 From: graeme.wall at icloud.com (Graeme Wall) Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2022 11:46:01 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] What a faff. In-Reply-To: <085FDEB5-9222-42E3-9655-106F98FF87B4@me.com> References: <085FDEB5-9222-42E3-9655-106F98FF87B4@me.com> Message-ID: Thanks Alan, that is useful to know. ? Graeme Wall > On 9 Feb 2022, at 11:30, Alan Taylor via Tech1 wrote: > > If anybody is tempted to install smart lighting or controls, I would advise holding back for a few months as a new standard called Matter is about to be launched. Matter offers greater interoperability, with individual devices no longer being tied to specific operating systems and most won?t need a hub either. From davesound at btinternet.com Wed Feb 9 08:14:25 2022 From: davesound at btinternet.com (Dave Plowman) Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2022 14:14:25 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Fwd: What a faff. In-Reply-To: <166636f6-ebea-719b-4e3a-99f1e35525f7@btinternet.com> References: <166636f6-ebea-719b-4e3a-99f1e35525f7@btinternet.com> Message-ID: <6aff125e-92bf-6c11-4e8f-11a361390168@btinternet.com> -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: Re: [Tech1] What a faff. Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2022 13:05:20 +0000 From: Dave Plowman To: Alan Taylor On 09/02/2022 11:30, Alan Taylor via Tech1 wrote: > Presumably you?ve selected either the 700 or 900 mA setting? I?d be > surprised if it made much difference either way. If it didn't matter, why have four settings rather than two? In my experience with 'ordinary' single LEDs, if you overdrive them you drastically shorten the life. And these tubes are very pricey.? And since there are two different ones in use, I want the subjective lighting level from them to match - same as the florries. > > I?ve given up on dimming with LEDs, I?ve had a bit of success, but > realise that it?s much simpler to have multiple lights and switch them > on selectively to suit whatever I?m doing. That would require a deal of re-wiring and therefore redecoration. I already have four lighting circuits in this room - three on dimmers - and adding a dimmer for the strip lights easy. The existing LEDs being decent quality ones designed for dimming, as are the dimmers, which they do just fine. Beauty with LED is dimming them saves near enough a proportional amount of cost to run. Unlike tungsten, which become horribly inefficient when dimmed. > > Smart lighting works very well and many smart lights are dimmable. I?m > very impressed with how it?s worked out for me. You can easily > automate things too. I trigger a bedtime automation which initially > turns on one light in the living room and a light in the kitchen, > followed by others in the landing and bedroom. Over the course of a > few minutes, the lights progressively turn off, by which time I should > be upstairs. Similarly when one of us arrives home, if it?s dark, the > light near the back door automatically comes on as soon as we get > within WiFi range and stays on for two minutes. Really don't want the complication of all that. Having seen a pal's house so equipped. Impressive to demonstrate. Until I ask myself just how I'd use it in practice. Oh - and how one would cope in very advanced years. > > If anybody is tempted to install smart lighting or controls, I would > advise holding back for a few months as a new standard called Matter > is about to be launched. Matter offers greater interoperability, with > individual devices no longer being tied to specific operating systems > and most won?t need a hub either. It will be most surprising if there ever is a true standard. That is never to a manufacture's benefit. Look at Apple for the best example of that. > > Alan Taylor > >> On 9 Feb 2022, at 10:42, Dave Plowman via Tech1 >> wrote: >> >> ?I have two fluorescent tubes lighting my kitchen worktops, under the >> wall cupboards, the tubes concealed by a plinth. Fairly normal. A 6ft >> and a 3 ft. Does what it says on the tin. >> >> One failed, and since all the other lighting in the kitchen is LED, >> decided to replace them with LED too. >> >> All the other lighting is on dimmers, so decided it would be nice to >> be able to dim those too. >> >> Now it is easy to dim a bulb LED with the correct dimmer, but not, it >> seems LED replacement tubes. >> >> Only one company I could find sells them - Ledison LedLights. >> >> They are actually low voltage tubes with an external constant current >> dimmable driver - bit like a florrie tube and ballast - so no >> different to what I already have. And pricey. But I'd decided it was >> what I wanted. If you feed the driver mains from an LED dimmer they >> then dim like other LEDs. >> >> Lots of problems with delivery, but over a month after ordering, they >> arrived. With no instructions. The drivers are obviously a universal >> type covering more than one tube size, and have several output >> current settings. >> >> Take the 6 ft one as an example. Driver can be switched to >> 500,700,900 and 1050 mA. Tube says 30w 36-42v. Working out the >> current from those figures gives 714-833 mA >> >> Of course I went back to the Ledison site to look for datasheets etc >> (that you'd expect to come with the drivers) but can't even find a >> listing for the make of drivers they've supplied. Most of the drivers >> they supply are fixed output so provided the correct one is supplied >> for the tube, easy enough to install with no instructions. >> >> Know from emailing them about delivery you get an idiot answering - >> even when they do answer. Never been able to get beyond being on hold >> on the phone. >> >> >> -- Tech1 mailing list >> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk >> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bernie833 at gmail.com Wed Feb 9 09:29:02 2022 From: bernie833 at gmail.com (Bernard Newnham) Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2022 15:29:02 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Blender In-Reply-To: References: <8dfa50cc-3e43-d7c0-f147-0d41e98a8c1e@gmail.com> Message-ID: This Blender - https://www.blender.org/ Thanks for the reference, but I was just hoping that someone would say "oh yes, that's really easy" . And I'm sure it is, from the tutorials,? once you've climbed the short steep slope of basics. I'd spend the ?17 for the book, but it isn't a big enough project. B On 09/02/2022 09:04, Nick Ware via Tech1 wrote: > Assuming that you?re not struggling with some fancy kitchen gadget > normally only understood by they who must be obeyed, how about > ?Blender for Dummies??! > Available as paperback on Amazon etc., or cheaper options for Kindle. > Cheers, > N. > Nick Ware - From my iPad mini 6 07802-246088 > >> On 8 Feb 2022, at 22:43, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 >> wrote: >> >> ? Is anyone any good with Blender? >> >> I'm looking for a tiny favour - really easy for someone who knows >> what they are doing, but I just don't seem to be able to manage it >> >> Thanks >> >> B >> >> -- >> Tech1 mailing list >> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk >> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Is anyone any good with Blender? >> >> I'm looking for a tiny favour - really easy for someone who knows >> what they are doing, but I just don't seem to be able to manage it >> >> Thanks >> >> B >> >> -- >> Tech1 mailing list >> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk >> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From saranewman at hotmail.com Wed Feb 9 09:45:23 2022 From: saranewman at hotmail.com (sara newman) Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2022 15:45:23 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Blender In-Reply-To: References: <8dfa50cc-3e43-d7c0-f147-0d41e98a8c1e@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi, There I thought for a moment you needed cookery lessons???:) LoL Sarax > On 9 Feb 2022, at 15:29, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 wrote: > > > This Blender - https://www.blender.org/ > > Thanks for the reference, but I was just hoping that someone would say "oh yes, that's really easy" . And I'm sure it is, from the tutorials, once you've climbed the short steep slope of basics. I'd spend the ?17 for the book, but it isn't a big enough project. > > B > > > > On 09/02/2022 09:04, Nick Ware via Tech1 wrote: >> Assuming that you?re not struggling with some fancy kitchen gadget normally only understood by they who must be obeyed, how about ?Blender for Dummies??! >> Available as paperback on Amazon etc., or cheaper options for Kindle. >> Cheers, >> N. >> Nick Ware - From my iPad mini 6 07802-246088 >> >>> On 8 Feb 2022, at 22:43, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 wrote: >>> >>> ? 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After an awful six months, with millions seeing their energy firms go bust, now the nation faces a once-unthinkable, but still catastrophic and disastrous, 54% rise in bills in April. On Thursday, the Chancellor made a spate of announcements, which I then interviewed him about as the centrepiece of my show - watch my ITV energy interview with Rishi Sunak, including some of what I discuss below plus issues such as why he won't levy a windfall tax on big energy firms. As so many of you have questions, I'm doing a live TikTok energy Q&A today (Wed) at 6.30pm, but do read my need-to-knows below first. However, I should say we only know the skeletons of the Chancellor's new schemes - the detailed consultation documents aren't out yet. 1. New.?On 1 April the energy price cap rises 54% - you'll pay half again on top of what you pay now (up an average ?700/yr) The vast majority of homes in Eng, Scot and Wales (NI doesn't have a cap) are now on price-capped, default standard variable tariffs - pretty much anyone who isn't still on a fixed deal. As we've long predicted, on Thursday, we got the hideous news it'd rise an unaffordable-for-many, poverty-inducing 54%, for six months from 1 April. The rise is down to the fact the algorithm is partly based on wholesale energy prices and they exploded during the August to January assessment period. Yet, remember, the price cap is misnamed... There's NO MAX you can pay on energy. Use more, pay more. What's actually capped are?electricity & gas standing charges and kWh rates?- the link shows the current and new rates. To show the scale of magnitude, someone with average direct debit use currently pays ?1,277/yr (?1,309/yr prepay).?From 1 April, they'll pay ?1,971/yr?(?2,017/yr prepay) - a ?693/yr rise (?708/yr). See more on how the price cap works. 2. If things stay as they are, the October price cap will rise another 20% on top As most energy decisions are made for at least a year, it's worth knowing what rate the crystal ball currently shows for the 1 October price cap - based on wholesale energy costs over February to July. If wholesale rates stay roughly where they are right now, we would see a rise again in October of 20% on top of April, taking the rate for someone with average use to ?2,365/yr. Though it should be noted, regulator Ofgem is consulting on changing the cap more frequently so the October rate may not last the full six months. The markets do seem to suggest the price cap will drop in April 2023, and indeed the Chancellor told me that he'd been looking at that data when deciding policy (which I suspect is what the new 'loan-not-loan' in point 4 below is about). And of course, while a war in Europe is worrying for a whole lot more than just energy prices, if the Russia-Ukraine conflict escalates substantially, that's likely to see wholesale prices ramp up further. 3. There are NO tariffs meaningfully cheaper than the price cap Before the energy world changed last October, I always said the price cap rate was pants, so switch to something cheaper. Today there are no tariffs meaningfully cheaper than the price cap and the cheapest open-market fixes are all more expensive than the 1 April price cap. When the rate rises in April, as it's a cap, firms can choose to charge less, but most main suppliers have always priced their standard tariffs within a couple of quid of it. I don't see that changing unless wholesale rates rapidly drop. 4. New. In Oct a loan-not-loan will reduce bills by ?200, then raise them by ?40/yr for 5yrs from April 2023 (not N. Ireland) The Chancellor announced three new measures on Thursday. What's looking to be the most controversial is what he called a ?200 "energy bills rebate" for ALL households in Eng, Scot and Wales. There's been much confusion about this, so please watch my 2-min new 'energy loan' video explainer - that's the easiest way to understand it... In brief though there are two elements here... ? In around October 2022:?EVERY ELECTRICITY BILL will be reduced by a flat ?200 (though a consultation may mean it's paid across a few months, not in one go). There is no choice - YOU CAN'T OPT OUT. Prepay users will get the money via their smart meter, voucher, cheque or similar. For those with small bills, the flat ?200 will have a big impact; for those with big bills, a little one. ? From April 2023:?EVERY ELECTRICITY BILL will have a ?40/yr levy added to it, and that will happen for five years to effectively repay the initial discount. And in a reverse to October, for those with small bills, the flat ?40 will have a bigger impact than for those with big bills. While many are calling this a loan, it isn't. It's automatic, not optional. It isn't linked to individuals or households or buildings, it's about bills. You have to take it if you pay for electricity this year. You have to pay extra for it if you pay for electricity in future. It's not regulated via the Financial Conduct Authority. It doesn't go on your credit file. It's an energy levy (like the green infrastructure levy added to bills). First there's a negative levy reducing bills, then a levy added to them. While for people whose home-situation doesn't change it will feel like a ?200 loan repaid at ?40/yr, for others there are bizarre outcomes, eg... - LOSERS: Five people share a house in Oct then separate.?They get 1 x ?200 discount off their bill. They then all move out and live alone. >From the following April all five of them will have bills ?40/yr higher. Similar for those moving out of parents' houses in the five years. - WINNERS:?Two singles live alone in Oct, then meet.?They each get a ?200/yr discount, then they move in together, so they've only one bill, and it'll just have one ?40/yr added.? Ultimately, I believe the Chancellor is taking a big gamble that energy bills will drop rapidly by April 2023. If they don't, this is a lose-lose of high bills with an added levy on top - political dynamite. I'm already hearing protests. A staggering 80% of 44,000 votes in my Opt out? Twitter poll said they'd opt out if they could (though that poll's NOT statistically representative so more research is needed). I think we may see changes in the consultation. 5. New.?Households in England in council tax bands A to D get ?150 rebate in April towards energy increases ? The other rabbit the Chancellor pulled out of his hat last week was a ?150 council tax rebate for homes in England in bands A to D (about 80% of homes), to be paid in April. We still await detailed rules, but there's full info in our??150 council tax discount explainer. He chose council tax because energy bills are household bills, so council tax is a decent proxy, and bands A to D reach many lower and middle-income homes. Indeed the independent Resolution Foundation said it's on the progressive side, though isn't without challenges. The Chancellor admitted to me, it's not a perfect system, as some get it who don't need it - after all, council tax is based on 1991 valuations so there are now some very expensive band D properties in London, and some people with low incomes in band E homes. (Related: See my council tax - challenge your band system.) He didn't mention though that councils are allowed to increase the tax by up to 3% in April, which would add ?57/yr to a typical band D property's bill, eating away some of this. Scot, Wales & NI:?Devolved governments will receive a total of??565 million in funding to be able to put their own schemes in place. We don't yet know what they'll do with it though.? 6.?New.?Not due the council tax discount but struggling? You may be able to get 'discretionary help' Many homes are exempt from council tax, as are all-student households and student nurses, and some of those households won't get the ?150. So there will be a ?144 million discretionary fund distributed via local authorities in England that should cover some of those cases and those who slip through the net, but we don't have eligibility criteria yet. PS: The Chancellor called me two days before the announcement to get my thoughts. He wouldn't tell me what his plans were but did say: "Sadly no system is perfect". So, mindful of those excluded from Covid support, I said: "Then why not set up a discretionary fund for the edge cases?" He perked up and said: "That's a great idea". 7. Is it time to ditch the price cap and get a fix? (Spoiler alert: for most, no) For months, for most the right thing to do has been 'nothing' as then you either stay on the price cap or move to it when your cheap fix ends (or your energy firm goes bust). Of course, now we know?the new price cap, my mailbag is swamped with people asking what to do now. Again, it's one of those to talk you through, so do watch my Stick on price cap or get a fix? 4-min video (courtesy of ITV),?from Thursday (those on older cheap fixes, you're likely best to stick with them, then watch this video for what to do when they end). A transcript is also available via the link. To check what tariffs are available, use our Cheap Energy Club and also ask your existing provider what it'll offer. Do remember to compare the actual rates, not the direct debit it's offering to set (which depends on usage estimates). 8. Warm home discount to rise ?10, to ?150 (woop-de-woop) though wider eligibility criteria will be expanded? The warm home discount is paid to many on low incomes, including pensioners. The Government says it will continue with plans to increase it by ?10 (not exactly huge since it's been the same for eight years, while energy prices have more than doubled in the last year alone). It also plans to extend the eligibility criteria so an additional 780,000 households will qualify, but we don't yet know who. Likely it'll be more people on means-tested benefits.? For this winter's scheme, only E.on, E.on Next, Bulb and So Energy still have applications open, so go quick if you may be eligible - see warm home discount help. 9. Energy price hikes will be hell for many. If you're already struggling to pay, some help may be available...? Even with the Government announcements, as I told the Chancellor directly, I still believe some will be left with the choice of freeze or starve. Citizens Advice reports record numbers asking for energy help, and that's before April's huge hikes. We've a new?What to do if you're struggling to pay your energy bills guide to cover everything you can do, and crucially where to get help. 10. The other way to cut bills, is, obviously, to use less... Our energy saving tips help with the simpler stuff, such as turning your thermostat down and cutting shower time. But other ways to use less aren't as clear-cut, such as whether to leave the heating on low all day - we've the pros and cons of this and more in our Energy mythbusting guide. And the team will be working on adding more tips soon. ? ? DON'T believe the fake 'Martin Lewis' or 'MSE' ads Lots of scam ads litter social media and even newspaper websites - some of these lie that we or Martin promote Bitcoin, binary trading etc. See Fake ads warning. ? ? ? Update:?Car & home insurers have delayed expected big January price rises - but for how long? Sort it ASAP Following a massive shake-up of car and home insurance rules on 1 January, insurers must now prove they charge new and existing customers the same price on aggregate, if they're buying cover by the same route. While a cheer went up from many loyal customers at the news, the prediction was it'd make switching costlier. But that's not happened (yet). Full info in our Cheap car insurance and Cheap home insurance guides, but in brief here's what you need to know...? Price rises after 1 January rule changes are?still expected for switchers.? Insurers usually charged existing customers far more than switchers (who they pull in with big discounts). With the new equal pricing rules, the assumption is rates will meet nearer the middle, meaning, all else being equal, switchers' prices will rise. Yet January quote prices are only slightly up on December's. We've heard it's because insurers still have huge 'customer acquisition targets' to meet. But the spectre of price rises still looms, so EVERYONE - check now if you can save. How to cut the cost of car insurance...? Here are the quick routes to drive down car insurance costs. Home cover is similar, but exact info's in Cheap home insurance. ? Near renewal? Get quotes about 23 days beforehand.?For those with renewals soon, timing can save ?100s. Our analysis of more than 70 million quotes showed the optimum time to get car insurance is 23 days ahead of renewal (though it's still cheap a few days either side - as the graph shows). Not at renewal? It's sometimes worth switching mid-policy, so do check if you can save, though factor in a ?50-ish admin fee to cancel. ? Combine comparisons to scour 100s of insurers in minutes.?Different comparison sites cover different insurers, and may even have different prices for the same insurer. So use at least two sites - more if you've time. Below is our current order (see why). However, the difference is usually slight, so if particular freebies appeal you can select your order based on that: -?Compare The Market* Perks:?2for1 cinema tickets and meals (but you can get this for ?1 with the meerkat loophole) -?Confused.com* Perks:?Choice of a ?20 Halfords, Domino's or Lidl voucher or 12 IMO car washes - MoneySupermarket* Perks: Up to ?150 of car repair and servicing vouchers (for example, MOTs for ?20) - Gocompare* Perks: Up to ?250 'free' excess cover ? Then check Direct Line.?Big insurer?Direct Line* isn't on comparisons and can be competitive for some. ? Tips and counter-logical tricks.?Check if these work for you: -?Use trial and error to see if comprehensive cover is cheaper than third party. - See if legitimately tweaking your job description gets you a cheaper quote. - Add a responsible additional driver to see if it cuts costs (even if they'll only drive occasionally). - More than one car? See if a multicar policy is cheaper. - After you've found your cheapest quote, try to haggle a bigger discount with your existing insurer. -?Check to see if cashback sites can beat your top quote. Topcashback* gives ?42 when you buy through its comparison, and Quidco* ?35 - so factor that in to the quotes you get from 'em. For both, the underlying comparison is Confused's but prices can differ. ? Always check the policy's right for you before buying.?Plus, ensure the firm you're buying from is regulated by the Financial Conduct Authority, as that way, if a claim's unfairly rejected you can take it to the free Financial Ombudsman. ? Is now the time to get solar panels??The copper lining of energy price rises is it makes solar panels more viable - if you've a suitable home, and savings. We've updated?Are solar panels worth it for you??with new price-cap numbers. Got stamps that say '1st' or '2nd' class? Beware - they're going to become unusable.?See?how to save your stamps. Ends Sun.?Got credit or store card debt? Shift it to 31 months 0% (2.7% fee) + get ?25 cashback.?A balance transfer's where you get a new card that clears old card(s) for you, so you owe it but at a cheaper rate.?HSBC's 31-month 0% deal (2.7% fee, minimum ?5)*?is one of the longest 0% cards, yet as it gives ?25 cashback if you shift ?100+ until Sunday, for many that covers the one-off transfer fee. Key tip: Use our?0% eligibility calculator?first to see if you'll likely be accepted for this and other cards.?Key rules:?Always repay at least the monthly minimum, and clear the card before the 0% ends, or it's 21.9% rep APR interest. Full help and more options in?Top balance transfers?(APR examples). Amazon ?5 off ?15 for some - do you qualify??See how to quickly check, plus 32 more?Amazon tips & tricks. 1p Walkers crisps, 23p Irn-Bru & 90p Heinz mayonnaise via extra 10% off already-reduced 'past best-before' food.?MSE Blagged.?Approved Food sells groceries near or past 'best-before' dates at a discount (they're NOT past use-by dates so they're safe). Minimum ?22.50 spend, delivery is ?3+ or free for newbies.?Approved Food New.?Now switchers get a FREE ?150 from First Direct, NatWest or RBS.?Last week we told you the no.1 customer service bank?First Direct*?(90% polled rated it 'great') had upped its switching bonus to ?150. Now First Direct's been joined by the?RBS Reward account* - and its sister bank's NatWest Reward*?already offered a free ?150. With both, pay a??2/month fee and you get up to ?5/month back (so a ?36/year net gain), as long as you've two direct debits of ?2+/month going out and you use its mobile app. Full account reviews and crucial eligibility info in?Best bank accounts. 5 Odeon tickets for ?25 (or 2 for ?11) - can be used any day. This used to be a regular deal, then the pandemic hit. It's now back, till 1 March. You needn't use all tickets in one go. See this Odeon deal, plus 19 more cinema savers. New.?Cheapest iPhone 12 contract we've seen - with 100GB data for '?30/month'.?They're not MoneySaving, but if you want an iPhone 12, at least do it the cheapest way. Three newbies can get a?64GB iPhone 12*?with 100GB/month of data for ?89 upfront, then ?26/month via Affordable Mobiles. That's ?713 in total over the two-year contract - equivalent to ?30/month and ?540 cheaper than a similar deal from Three itself. Want a different handset??Use our?Cheap Mobile Finder. Note: Three is responsible for the contract, Affordable Mobiles for the handset. UK base rates double, from 0.25% to 0.5% - what it means for mortgages & savings.?Variable rate mortgages will rise roughly ?12/month per ?100,000 owed. For full info see our?UK rate rises help. Treasury agrees to change Gov.uk website after Martin says writing 'national insurance will rise 1.25%' is misleading.?Find out why it's wrong and what happened...?Treasury changes Gov.uk national insurance rise info. Energy change questions & student loan repayment hikes: Thu 8.30pm, ITV - The Martin Lewis Money Show LIVE.?Over to Martin: "So much going on. I want to cover all your questions from last week's energy changes, plus I question the Chancellor over hidden hikes to student loan repayments. And no doubt lots more news you can use. See you Thursday - do watch us live and set your VideoPlus for the other side." ? ? BLAGGED FOR MSE - Approved Food 10% off code Ends Tue - eHarmony premium free five-day trial Ends Sat DID YOU MISS? - Claim working-from-home tax rebate (worth up to ?280) now - Where should you put your tomatoes? 15 food storage hacks - Student loan repayments to rise by ?110/year from April - Cheap Covid travel tests - help on what tests are needed - Don't just go direct to airlines - use our tricks to slash flight costs ? ? New.?Top cash Lifetime ISA (for newbies & switchers) FREE ?1,000/year for first-time buyers (age 18 to 39) on top of interest. Not ready to save yet? Put ?1 in ASAP anyway Opening a Lifetime ISA is the powerhouse financial move for most people wanting to buy their first home, as long as you're at least 18 and not yet 40 (In your late 30s??Open one ASAP, even with ?1, as you can continue to save in it once it's open). And now there are new top deals out there. FULL help & info in our Top Lifetime ISAs (LISAs)?guide, but in brief... ? How you can get up to ?1,000 a year free with a LISA.?A LISA is a special tax-free savings or investment account. While it can be used for retirement purposes, its strongest use is for first-time buyers... - You get a 25% bonus from the state on everything you put in, up to ?4,000 per tax year, until you're aged 50.?So if you save ?1,000, you'll have ?1,250, and if you save the full ?4,000, you'll have ?5,000. See LISA bonus explained. - Use it on your first residential home (costing up to ?450,000).?First-time buyers (those who have never owned/part-owned a home anywhere) can use it to buy a property costing up to ?450,000, with a mortgage, as long as the LISA's been open a year or more. - It's still doable even if you're buying with someone who isn't a first-time buyer.?It's an individual product, so first-time buyers can still use it, regardless of who they buy with. Equally, if both are first-time buyers, you can have one each. -?Withdraw before you're 60, and there's effectively a 6.25% penalty if you're not buying a home.?LISAs can also be used as retirement savings,?but if you want to withdraw it earlier and aren't buying a qualifying home, you'll pay a penalty - see how the LISA withdrawal penalty works. - Already got a Help to Buy ISA??These were the LISA's forerunner (and can't be opened now), and while you can have both, you can't get the first-time buyer's bonus on both. See Help to Buy ISAs v LISAs for which is best for you. ? New.?Top cash Lifetime ISAs.?As well as the 25% bonus, you also get interest on your savings. The rates aren't anything to write home about but - as always - it's worth maximising every penny. And recently there's been a shake-up of the best buys. Full info & more options in Top cash LISAs (there are also investment LISAs, but they're often better if using the LISA for retirement). Top picks include... -?Earn 0.85% AER when you save from ?1.?App-only?Moneybox?is now the top payer, offering newbies and switchers 0.85% AER variable. Yet 0.6% is a year-long bonus, so diarise to review the rate and possibly transfer in a year. - Earn 0.8% AER and a possible ?50 transfer bonus.?Beehive Money (part of Nottingham Building Society) is also app-based and pays 0.8% AER variable (min ?10) and offers ?50 cashback if you transfer ?10,000 or more from an existing LISA (so useful for existing Moneybox LISA savers who've been there a while, as you don't get the 0.85%). If you are transferring your existing LISA, don't just withdraw the cash, you'll pay the withdrawal penalty. You need to open the new LISA and ask it to move the money in from your current provider. ? Not even thinking about buying yet? Put ?1 in a LISA now anyway. You need to have had a LISA for a year before you can use it to buy a home, so just for safety, open one with ?1 now to get the clock started. That way, if things change and you find you're ready to buy, you can put money in and get the bonus, then use the LISA within weeks (and if not, withdraw the ?1 and you'd just lose 6p). ? 20 tips to cut the cost of holidays abroad - flights, hotels, roaming, airport lounges, euros, insurance, school holiday hacks & far more.?In case you missed them in last week's email, see our?20 holiday hacks. New.?Will your water bill increase in April? Some to rise up to 10%. Some firms' prices are rising, others are falling, some staying the same. Find out Will my water bill rise and what can I do to stop it? 'I would've binned Barclaycard post refunding ?1k if it wasn't for MSE.'?Our success of the week comes from MoneySaver Debbie, who followed our tip to keep an eye out for?Barclaycard sending refund cheques by post: "I received the 'circular' letter from Barclaycard and remembered your newsletter. ?980 later and I want to thank you so much because I would have thrown it." Please send us your MoneySaving successes on this or anything else. Private parking ticket costs to be capped. New Government rules mean motorists will be charged no more than ?50 in most situations, by 2024 at the latest. See Private parking charge cap. Related: Fight unfair private parking tickets, Fight unfair council parking tickets. Last-second Valentine's deals: ?4 roses, ?15 dine-in meals & ideas to celebrate for free. Romance is great, but over-commercialised pressure to show your love ain't. If you're going to spend, we've Valentine's offers galore (and if not, see MSE Jules' Free and cheap ways to celebrate blog). How do you rate your broadband firm's service? Please vote now.?It's our regular six-monthly poll on broadband firms. Please vote to help us help you and others decide who to use in future.?Rate your broadband Ends Sat. Rare 5-day free trial for eHarmony premium.?MSE Blagged. We've blagged a rare chance for you to try it, with no subscription. Gets unlimited messaging, video date feature and lets you see who's visited your profile. Normally ?10/month. eHarmony ? ? Tell your friends about us They can get this email free every week ? ? AT A GLANCE BEST BUYS 0% balance transfers Longest 0%:?MBNA (check eligibility / apply*) up to 33 months 0%, 2.69% or 3.49% fee (21.9% rep APR) No-fee 0%:?Sainsbury's Bank (check eligibility / apply*) up to 21 months 0% (20.9% rep APR) or 22 months 0% if you're a NatWest/RBS customer (21.9% rep APR) Top savings accounts Top standard easy access:?Aldermore 0.75%, min ?1,000 Top one-year fix:?Habib Bank Zurich 1.41%, min ?5,000 Car insurance Get comparison site quotes in this order: 1. Compare The Market* 2. Confused.com* 3. MoneySupermarket.com* 4. 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Pat Sent from Mail for Windows -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alanaudio at me.com Wed Feb 9 12:15:37 2022 From: alanaudio at me.com (Alan Taylor) Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2022 18:15:37 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] 'New' Postage stamps In-Reply-To: <620402e1.1c69fb81.a25d.41db@mx.google.com> References: <620402e1.1c69fb81.a25d.41db@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <2A5051BB-2178-4215-A6FD-265CCC86FF26@me.com> I would expect the barcode to encode the price paid for the stamp, which could prevent people using them after a price rise unless an additional fee is paid. Paying online for stamps and printing the code onto the envelope has been an option for many years and works well. The first envelope going into the postal system bearing that particular code is the only one which will get through ( in theory ). I can?t see much point in buying the new barcode stamps as I send very few letters these days. Alan Taylor > On 9 Feb 2022, at 18:08, patheigham via Tech1 wrote: > > ? > If you have read the item about Royal Mail introducing new postage stamps with bar codes, set me wondering suspiciously, if the bar code is dated, so if the rates go up, as they do each year ? should you try using a stamp bought the previous year could attract the ?insufficient postage? marker and the recipient has to pay a surcharge, and maybe have to traipse to the local delivery office to collect the missive! > > Pat > > Sent from Mail for Windows > > > > > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > www.avast.com > > > -- > Tech1 mailing list > Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From waresound at msn.com Wed Feb 9 12:23:11 2022 From: waresound at msn.com (Nick Ware) Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2022 18:23:11 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] 'New' Postage stamps In-Reply-To: <620402e1.1c69fb81.a25d.41db@mx.google.com> References: <620402e1.1c69fb81.a25d.41db@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Can?t be bothered to read the article, but one thing to note is that if you have postage stamps with just ?1st? or ?2nd? on them, they are valid as such no matter how old, or what you paid for them. Cheers, N. Nick Ware - From my iPad mini 6 07802-246088 On 9 Feb 2022, at 18:08, patheigham via Tech1 wrote: ? If you have read the item about Royal Mail introducing new postage stamps with bar codes, set me wondering suspiciously, if the bar code is dated, so if the rates go up, as they do each year ? should you try using a stamp bought the previous year could attract the ?insufficient postage? marker and the recipient has to pay a surcharge, and maybe have to traipse to the local delivery office to collect the missive! Pat Sent from Mail for Windows ________________________________ [Avast logo] This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.com -- Tech1 mailing list Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alawrance1 at me.com Wed Feb 9 12:26:06 2022 From: alawrance1 at me.com (Alasdair Lawrance) Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2022 18:26:06 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] 'New' Postage stamps In-Reply-To: <2A5051BB-2178-4215-A6FD-265CCC86FF26@me.com> References: <2A5051BB-2178-4215-A6FD-265CCC86FF26@me.com> Message-ID: <8F7A8F25-AEEF-4E64-8290-93C34856A632@me.com> When you swap the old stamps will you get 'like-for-like'? Or will they rip us off a second time? Alasdair Lawrance Don?t blame me, I voted Remain. > On 9 Feb 2022, at 18:16, Alan Taylor via Tech1 wrote: > > ? > I would expect the barcode to encode the price paid for the stamp, which could prevent people using them after a price rise unless an additional fee is paid. > > Paying online for stamps and printing the code onto the envelope has been an option for many years and works well. The first envelope going into the postal system bearing that particular code is the only one which will get through ( in theory ). I can?t see much point in buying the new barcode stamps as I send very few letters these days. > > Alan Taylor > >>> On 9 Feb 2022, at 18:08, patheigham via Tech1 wrote: >>> >> ? >> If you have read the item about Royal Mail introducing new postage stamps with bar codes, set me wondering suspiciously, if the bar code is dated, so if the rates go up, as they do each year ? should you try using a stamp bought the previous year could attract the ?insufficient postage? marker and the recipient has to pay a surcharge, and maybe have to traipse to the local delivery office to collect the missive! >> >> Pat >> >> Sent from Mail for Windows >> >> >> >> >> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >> www.avast.com >> >> >> -- >> Tech1 mailing list >> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk >> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk > -- > Tech1 mailing list > Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From davesound at btinternet.com Wed Feb 9 12:27:20 2022 From: davesound at btinternet.com (Dave Plowman) Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2022 18:27:20 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] 'New' Postage stamps In-Reply-To: <620402e1.1c69fb81.a25d.41db@mx.google.com> References: <620402e1.1c69fb81.a25d.41db@mx.google.com> Message-ID: That would be a total about face - back to the days when the stamp cost was printed on it? But wondering how many still use stamps - and for how long this will continue? Most things I post these days, I pay online and print out a label. Wouldn't be difficult to do this on an envelope too. 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URL: From alanaudio at me.com Wed Feb 9 12:53:08 2022 From: alanaudio at me.com (Alan Taylor) Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2022 18:53:08 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] 'New' Postage stamps In-Reply-To: <8F7A8F25-AEEF-4E64-8290-93C34856A632@me.com> References: <8F7A8F25-AEEF-4E64-8290-93C34856A632@me.com> Message-ID: Details are emerging, but it appears that you post your existing stamps to the Post Office and you will get a similar number of nice shiny ones in return. No mention of whether it?s Freepost or if you have to use one of your stamps to post them. I think it?s going to be easier to just make sure I use up the little stock of stamps in the drawer of my desk during this year. Alan Taylor > On 9 Feb 2022, at 18:26, Alasdair Lawrance wrote: > > ?When you swap the old stamps will you get 'like-for-like'? > > Or will they rip us off a second time? > > Alasdair Lawrance > > Don?t blame me, I voted Remain. > > > >>> On 9 Feb 2022, at 18:16, Alan Taylor via Tech1 wrote: >>> >> ? >> I would expect the barcode to encode the price paid for the stamp, which could prevent people using them after a price rise unless an additional fee is paid. >> >> Paying online for stamps and printing the code onto the envelope has been an option for many years and works well. The first envelope going into the postal system bearing that particular code is the only one which will get through ( in theory ). I can?t see much point in buying the new barcode stamps as I send very few letters these days. >> >> Alan Taylor >> >>>> On 9 Feb 2022, at 18:08, patheigham via Tech1 wrote: >>>> >>> ? >>> If you have read the item about Royal Mail introducing new postage stamps with bar codes, set me wondering suspiciously, if the bar code is dated, so if the rates go up, as they do each year ? should you try using a stamp bought the previous year could attract the ?insufficient postage? marker and the recipient has to pay a surcharge, and maybe have to traipse to the local delivery office to collect the missive! >>> >>> Pat >>> >>> Sent from Mail for Windows >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >>> www.avast.com >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Tech1 mailing list >>> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk >>> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk >> -- >> Tech1 mailing list >> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk >> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pat.heigham at amps.net Thu Feb 10 03:12:10 2022 From: pat.heigham at amps.net (patheigham) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2022 09:12:10 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] 'New' Postage stamps In-Reply-To: <2A5051BB-2178-4215-A6FD-265CCC86FF26@me.com> References: <620402e1.1c69fb81.a25d.41db@mx.google.com> <2A5051BB-2178-4215-A6FD-265CCC86FF26@me.com> Message-ID: <6204d6e8.1c69fb81.2ba7b.5b96@mx.google.com> Pretty much my thinking, Alan, but from a different angle. Royal Mail has woken up, albeit tardily, to the fact that people buy stamps in one year to avoid the price increase the next. I?ve been using ?Click & Drop? for some time, but do not find the order form very easy ? why aren?t the fields labelled simply as ?recipient? and ?sender? addresses! Also it?s unclear as to what point one selects the print position on a sheet of four labels. I had to have a couple of tutorials from Mike McCarthy on that! Pat Sent from Mail for Windows From: Alan Taylor via Tech1 Sent: 09 February 2022 18:15 To: tech1 Subject: Re: [Tech1] 'New' Postage stamps I would expect the barcode to encode the price paid for the stamp, which could prevent people using them after a price rise unless an additional fee is paid. Paying online for stamps and printing the code onto the envelope has been an option for many years and works well. ?The first envelope going into the postal system bearing that particular code is the only one which will get through ( in theory ). I can?t see much point in buying the new barcode stamps as I send very few letters these days. Alan Taylor On 9 Feb 2022, at 18:08, patheigham via Tech1 wrote: ? If you have read the item about Royal Mail introducing? new postage stamps with bar codes, set me wondering suspiciously, if the bar code is dated, so if the rates go up, as they do each year ? should you try using a stamp bought the previous year could attract the ?insufficient postage? marker and the recipient has to pay a surcharge, and maybe have to traipse to the local delivery office to collect the missive! ? Pat ? Sent from Mail for Windows ? This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.com -- Tech1 mailing list Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Royal Mail has woken up, albeit tardily, to the fact that people buy stamps in one year to avoid the price increase the next. > I?ve been using ?Click & Drop? for some time, but do not find the order form very easy ? why aren?t the fields labelled simply as ?recipient? and ?sender? addresses! Also it?s unclear as to what point one selects the print position on a sheet of four labels. I had to have a couple of tutorials from Mike McCarthy on that! > Pat > > Sent from Mail for Windows > > From: Alan Taylor via Tech1 > Sent: 09 February 2022 18:15 > To: tech1 > Subject: Re: [Tech1] 'New' Postage stamps > > I would expect the barcode to encode the price paid for the stamp, which could prevent people using them after a price rise unless an additional fee is paid. > > Paying online for stamps and printing the code onto the envelope has been an option for many years and works well. The first envelope going into the postal system bearing that particular code is the only one which will get through ( in theory ). I can?t see much point in buying the new barcode stamps as I send very few letters these days. > > Alan Taylor > > > On 9 Feb 2022, at 18:08, patheigham via Tech1 wrote: > > ? > If you have read the item about Royal Mail introducing new postage stamps with bar codes, set me wondering suspiciously, if the bar code is dated, so if the rates go up, as they do each year ? should you try using a stamp bought the previous year could attract the ?insufficient postage? marker and the recipient has to pay a surcharge, and maybe have to traipse to the local delivery office to collect the missive! > > Pat > > Sent from Mail for Windows > > > > <7A8ECA52E4DC4217B3B5E0A48ADE9B81.png> > > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > www.avast.com > > > > -- > Tech1 mailing list > Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk > > <7A8ECA52E4DC4217B3B5E0A48ADE9B81.png> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From doug at puddifoot.me Thu Feb 10 05:04:37 2022 From: doug at puddifoot.me (Doug Puddifoot) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2022 11:04:37 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] 'New' Postage stamps Message-ID: New technology is great, but maybe they should get it working before it is introduced. I sent a parcel a couple of weeks ago. I booked it on line, printed the label, and the postman arrived to collect it. His scanner said the barcode was invalid. He said it should be the old fashoned one D barcode, and this was a two D QR code. He finally agreed to take it and enter it into the system using the tracking number. I got notification it had been collected. However ten days and several phone calls later they had no idear where it was. The gist of the phone calls was that although you pay for "tracking" that is not what happens. It is only scanned at pickup and delivery. "So if there is no record of it by next week, just make a claim". The company I sent the parcel to finally confirmed it had arrived, so I sent a complaint asking why they issued invalid barcodes. Their answer was that they could see that it was entered into the system so obviously there was no problem with the barcode, and since there was still no record of it, I should make a claim. I have just replied saying that if it did have a working barcode it would have been scanned when it arrived and they would know where it was. I await the next excuse with interest. Doug On 10 February 2022, at 09:12, patheigham via Tech1 wrote: Pretty much my thinking, Alan, but from a different angle. Royal Mail has woken up, albeit tardily, to the fact that people buy stamps in one year to avoid the price increase the next. I?ve been using ?Click & Drop? for some time, but do not find the order form very easy ? why aren?t the fields labelled simply as ?recipient? and ?sender? addresses! Also it?s unclear as to what point one selects the print position on a sheet of four labels. I had to have a couple of tutorials from Mike McCarthy on that! Pat ? Sent from Mail for Windows ? From: Alan Taylor via Tech1 Sent: 09 February 2022 18:15 To: tech1 Subject: Re: [Tech1] 'New' Postage stamps ? I would expect the barcode to encode the price paid for the stamp, which could prevent people using them after a price rise unless an additional fee is paid. ? Paying online for stamps and printing the code onto the envelope has been an option for many years and works well. ?The first envelope going into the postal system bearing that particular code is the only one which will get through ( in theory ). I can?t see much point in buying the new barcode stamps as I send very few letters these days. ? Alan Taylor On 9 Feb 2022, at 18:08, patheigham via Tech1 wrote: ? If you have read the item about Royal Mail introducing? new postage stamps with bar codes, set me wondering suspiciously, if the bar code is dated, so if the rates go up, as they do each year ? should you try using a stamp bought the previous year could attract the ?insufficient postage? marker and the recipient has to pay a surcharge, and maybe have to traipse to the local delivery office to collect the missive! ? Pat ? Sent from Mail for Windows ? ? ? ? This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.com -- Tech1 mailing list Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk ? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pat.heigham at amps.net Thu Feb 10 05:17:20 2022 From: pat.heigham at amps.net (patheigham) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2022 11:17:20 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] 'New' Postage stamps In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6204f43e.1c69fb81.8e1b8.9acd@mx.google.com> Yep, agreed! The Click & Drop programme seems to exist in two forms ? the Beta version is much easier to use, but like you say, Doug, should be fully tested before launch. (Awful memories of BBC 2?s opening night, here!) One thing I get incensed about ? being a grumpy old fart, now, is the interminable ?menus? one is presented with on phoning utility companies. And none of the options ever relate to my particular problem! I recently practiced what someone advised ? don?t press any invited numbers, and eventually a human will answer! Pat Sent from Mail for Windows From: Doug Puddifoot via Tech1 Sent: 10 February 2022 11:04 To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk Subject: Re: [Tech1] 'New' Postage stamps New technology is great, but maybe they should get it working before it is introduced. I sent a parcel a couple of weeks ago. I booked it on line, printed the label, and the postman arrived to collect it. His scanner said the barcode was invalid. He said it should be the old fashoned one D barcode, and this was a two D QR code. He finally agreed to take it and enter it into the system using the tracking number. I got notification it had been collected. However ten days and several phone calls later they had no idear where it was. The gist of the phone calls was that although you pay for "tracking" that is not what happens. It is only scanned at pickup and delivery. "So if there is no record of it by next week, just make a claim".? The company I sent the parcel to finally confirmed it had arrived, so I sent a complaint asking why they issued invalid barcodes. Their answer was that they could see that it was entered into the system so obviously there was no problem with the barcode, and since there was still no record of it, I should make a claim. I have just replied saying that if it did have a working barcode it would have been scanned when it arrived and they would know where it was. I await the next excuse with interest. Doug On 10 February 2022, at 09:12, patheigham via Tech1 wrote: Pretty much my thinking, Alan, but from a different angle. Royal Mail has woken up, albeit tardily, to the fact that people buy stamps in one year to avoid the price increase the next. I?ve been using ?Click & Drop? for some time, but do not find the order form very easy ? why aren?t the fields labelled simply as ?recipient? and ?sender? addresses! Also it?s unclear as to what point one selects the print position on a sheet of four labels. I had to have a couple of tutorials from Mike McCarthy on that! Pat Sent from Mail for Windows From: Alan Taylor via Tech1 Sent: 09 February 2022 18:15 To: tech1 Subject: Re: [Tech1] 'New' Postage stamps I would expect the barcode to encode the price paid for the stamp, which could prevent people using them after a price rise unless an additional fee is paid. Paying online for stamps and printing the code onto the envelope has been an option for many years and works well. ?The first envelope going into the postal system bearing that particular code is the only one which will get through ( in theory ). I can?t see much point in buying the new barcode stamps as I send very few letters these days. Alan Taylor On 9 Feb 2022, at 18:08, patheigham via Tech1 wrote: ? If you have read the item about Royal Mail introducing? new postage stamps with bar codes, set me wondering suspiciously, if the bar code is dated, so if the rates go up, as they do each year ? should you try using a stamp bought the previous year could attract the ?insufficient postage? marker and the recipient has to pay a surcharge, and maybe have to traipse to the local delivery office to collect the missive! ? Pat ? Sent from Mail for Windows ? This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.com -- Tech1 mailing list Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pat.heigham at amps.net Thu Feb 10 05:17:31 2022 From: pat.heigham at amps.net (patheigham) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2022 11:17:31 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] 'New' Postage stamps In-Reply-To: References: <6204d6e8.1c69fb81.2ba7b.5b96@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <6204f44a.1c69fb81.4b985.b38a@mx.google.com> I was using ?Click & Drop? to print postage paid labels for Mailite envelopes containing DVD?s in cases to send to friends. Pat Sent from Mail for Windows From: Alan Taylor via Tech1 Sent: 10 February 2022 09:40 To: tech1 Subject: Re: [Tech1] 'New' Postage stamps I print directly onto the envelope. It seems easier with my setup. ?Even printing on different sized envelopes works well.? If in doubt, I would do an initial test print onto plain paper cut to the size of that envelope Alan Taylor On 10 Feb 2022, at 09:12, patheigham wrote: ? Pretty much my thinking, Alan, but from a different angle. Royal Mail has woken up, albeit tardily, to the fact that people buy stamps in one year to avoid the price increase the next. I?ve been using ?Click & Drop? for some time, but do not find the order form very easy ? why aren?t the fields labelled simply as ?recipient? and ?sender? addresses! Also it?s unclear as to what point one selects the print position on a sheet of four labels. I had to have a couple of tutorials from Mike McCarthy on that! Pat ? Sent from Mail for Windows ? From: Alan Taylor via Tech1 Sent: 09 February 2022 18:15 To: tech1 Subject: Re: [Tech1] 'New' Postage stamps ? I would expect the barcode to encode the price paid for the stamp, which could prevent people using them after a price rise unless an additional fee is paid. ? Paying online for stamps and printing the code onto the envelope has been an option for many years and works well. ?The first envelope going into the postal system bearing that particular code is the only one which will get through ( in theory ). I can?t see much point in buying the new barcode stamps as I send very few letters these days. ? Alan Taylor On 9 Feb 2022, at 18:08, patheigham via Tech1 wrote: ? If you have read the item about Royal Mail introducing? new postage stamps with bar codes, set me wondering suspiciously, if the bar code is dated, so if the rates go up, as they do each year ? should you try using a stamp bought the previous year could attract the ?insufficient postage? marker and the recipient has to pay a surcharge, and maybe have to traipse to the local delivery office to collect the missive! ? Pat ? Sent from Mail for Windows ? ? <7A8ECA52E4DC4217B3B5E0A48ADE9B81.png> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.com -- Tech1 mailing list Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk ? <7A8ECA52E4DC4217B3B5E0A48ADE9B81.png> -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From davesound at btinternet.com Thu Feb 10 05:17:48 2022 From: davesound at btinternet.com (Dave Plowman) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2022 11:17:48 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] 'New' Postage stamps In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <85651dcf-a5ce-6ed0-27d2-7117e92f5b4c@btinternet.com> I have one of those parcel lockers handy. And very unusual in that you can park easily for the short time needed - if the parcel too big to carry, etc. It reads the barcode before opening an empty locker for you. Suits me better than having to hang around for someone to call. On 10/02/2022 11:04, Doug Puddifoot via Tech1 wrote: > > New technology is great, but maybe they should get it working before > it is introduced. I sent a parcel a couple of weeks ago. I booked it > on line, printed the label, and the postman arrived to collect it. His > scanner said the barcode was invalid. He said it should be the old > fashoned one D barcode, and this was a two D QR code. He finally > agreed to take it and enter it into the system using the tracking > number. I got notification it had been collected. However ten days and > several phone calls later they had no idear where it was. The gist of > the phone calls was that although you pay for "tracking" that is not > what happens. It is only scanned at pickup and delivery. "So if there > is no record of it by next week, just make a claim".? The company I > sent the parcel to finally confirmed it had arrived, so I sent a > complaint asking why they issued invalid barcodes. Their answer was > that they could see that it was entered into the system so obviously > there was no problem with the barcode, and since there was still no > record of it, I should make a claim. I have just replied saying that > if it did have a working barcode it would have been scanned when it > arrived and they would know where it was. I await the next excuse with > interest. > > Doug > > > > On 10 February 2022, at 09:12, patheigham via Tech1 > wrote: > > > Pretty much my thinking, Alan, but from a different angle. Royal Mail > has woken up, albeit tardily, to the fact that people buy stamps in > one year to avoid the price increase the next. > > I?ve been using ?Click & Drop? for some time, but do not find the > order form very easy ? why aren?t the fields labelled simply as > ?recipient? and ?sender? addresses! Also it?s unclear as to what point > one selects the print position on a sheet of four labels. I had to > have a couple of tutorials from Mike McCarthy on that! > > Pat > > Sent from Mail for > Windows > > *From: *Alan Taylor via Tech1 > *Sent: *09 February 2022 18:15 > *To: *tech1 > *Subject: *Re: [Tech1] 'New' Postage stamps > > I would expect the barcode to encode the price paid for the stamp, > which could prevent people using them after a price rise unless an > additional fee is paid. > > Paying online for stamps and printing the code onto the envelope has > been an option for many years and works well. ?The first envelope > going into the postal system bearing that particular code is the only > one which will get through ( in theory ). I can?t see much point in > buying the new barcode stamps as I send very few letters these days. > > Alan Taylor > > > > On 9 Feb 2022, at 18:08, patheigham via Tech1 > wrote: > > ? > > If you have read the item about Royal Mail introducing? new > postage stamps with bar codes, set me wondering suspiciously, if > the bar code is dated, so if the rates go up, as they do each year > ? should you try using a stamp bought the previous year could > attract the ?insufficient postage? marker and the recipient has to > pay a surcharge, and maybe have to traipse to the local delivery > office to collect the missive! > > Pat > > Sent from Mail > for Windows > > Avast logo > > > > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > www.avast.com > > > > -- > Tech1 mailing list > Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From davesound at btinternet.com Thu Feb 10 05:21:27 2022 From: davesound at btinternet.com (Dave Plowman) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2022 11:21:27 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] 'New' Postage stamps In-Reply-To: <6204f43e.1c69fb81.8e1b8.9acd@mx.google.com> References: <6204f43e.1c69fb81.8e1b8.9acd@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <41cbc6e8-f84f-346b-149d-7519b04a84df@btinternet.com> It's not having to press a button that annoys me, but having to listen to all the irrelevant guff that goes before it. Like why don't you do this online? If online worked for what I needed, WTF would I be phoning? On 10/02/2022 11:17, patheigham via Tech1 wrote: > > Yep, agreed! The Click & Drop programme seems to exist in two forms ? > the Beta version is much easier to use, but like you say, Doug, should > be fully tested before launch. (Awful memories of BBC 2?s opening > night, here!) > > One thing I get incensed about ? being a grumpy old fart, now, is the > interminable ?menus? one is presented with on phoning utility > companies. And none of the options ever relate to my particular > problem! I recently practiced what someone advised ? don?t press any > invited numbers, and eventually a human will answer! > > Pat > > Sent from Mail for > Windows > > *From: *Doug Puddifoot via Tech1 > *Sent: *10 February 2022 11:04 > *To: *tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > *Subject: *Re: [Tech1] 'New' Postage stamps > > New technology is great, but maybe they should get it working before > it is introduced. I sent a parcel a couple of weeks ago. I booked it > on line, printed the label, and the postman arrived to collect it. His > scanner said the barcode was invalid. He said it should be the old > fashoned one D barcode, and this was a two D QR code. He finally > agreed to take it and enter it into the system using the tracking > number. I got notification it had been collected. However ten days and > several phone calls later they had no idear where it was. The gist of > the phone calls was that although you pay for "tracking" that is not > what happens. It is only scanned at pickup and delivery. "So if there > is no record of it by next week, just make a claim".? The company I > sent the parcel to finally confirmed it had arrived, so I sent a > complaint asking why they issued invalid barcodes. Their answer was > that they could see that it was entered into the system so obviously > there was no problem with the barcode, and since there was still no > record of it, I should make a claim. I have just replied saying that > if it did have a working barcode it would have been scanned when it > arrived and they would know where it was. I await the next excuse with > interest. > > Doug > > > > On 10 February 2022, at 09:12, patheigham via Tech1 > wrote: > > Pretty much my thinking, Alan, but from a different angle. Royal Mail > has woken up, albeit tardily, to the fact that people buy stamps in > one year to avoid the price increase the next. > > I?ve been using ?Click & Drop? for some time, but do not find the > order form very easy ? why aren?t the fields labelled simply as > ?recipient? and ?sender? addresses! Also it?s unclear as to what point > one selects the print position on a sheet of four labels. I had to > have a couple of tutorials from Mike McCarthy on that! > > Pat > > Sent from Mail for > Windows > > *From: *Alan Taylor via Tech1 > *Sent: *09 February 2022 18:15 > *To: *tech1 > *Subject: *Re: [Tech1] 'New' Postage stamps > > I would expect the barcode to encode the price paid for the stamp, > which could prevent people using them after a price rise unless an > additional fee is paid. > > Paying online for stamps and printing the code onto the envelope has > been an option for many years and works well. ?The first envelope > going into the postal system bearing that particular code is the only > one which will get through ( in theory ). I can?t see much point in > buying the new barcode stamps as I send very few letters these days. > > Alan Taylor > > On 9 Feb 2022, at 18:08, patheigham via Tech1 > wrote: > > ? > > If you have read the item about Royal Mail introducing? new > postage stamps with bar codes, set me wondering suspiciously, if > the bar code is dated, so if the rates go up, as they do each year > ? should you try using a stamp bought the previous year could > attract the ?insufficient postage? marker and the recipient has to > pay a surcharge, and maybe have to traipse to the local delivery > office to collect the missive! > > Pat > > Sent from Mail > for Windows > > Avast logo > > > > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > www.avast.com > > -- > Tech1 mailing list > Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pat.heigham at amps.net Thu Feb 10 05:52:12 2022 From: pat.heigham at amps.net (patheigham) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2022 11:52:12 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] 'New' Postage stamps In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6204fc6b.1c69fb81.6937a.e806@mx.google.com> Tracking sometimes works well. I had booked a boiler service and repair with British Gas. I could see on their website, when the engineer was within 30 mins of arrival. I suspect that Royal Mail is feeling the pinch when it comes to competition delivery firms, now in the field. I?m amazed that Amazon can offer same day delivery, on occasion. They use a broad collection of firms ? Hermes, DHL, etc. And it seems to work, as does their tracking. As Doug says, there is now a collection service from RM, but miles late to implement. I stayed with an ex-pat friend, just north of Toronto, some 20 years ago, and was intrigued that one could put stamped mail in the post box at your drive, with the flag up, and it would be collected. (Royal Mail -if you needed to write to Her Majesty at the palace, do you have to put a stamp on?) Pat Sent from Mail for Windows From: Doug Puddifoot via Tech1 Sent: 10 February 2022 11:04 To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk Subject: Re: [Tech1] 'New' Postage stamps The gist of the phone calls was that although you pay for "tracking" that is not what happens. It is only scanned at pickup and delivery. "So if there is no record of it by next week, just make a claimDoug -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From davesound at btinternet.com Thu Feb 10 08:57:52 2022 From: davesound at btinternet.com (Dave Plowman) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2022 14:57:52 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Your starter for 10... Message-ID: Just where do you guess this was recovered from? Best possible taste replies only. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 20220210_143349.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 1938608 bytes Desc: not available URL: From graeme.wall at icloud.com Thu Feb 10 09:14:17 2022 From: graeme.wall at icloud.com (Graeme Wall) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2022 15:14:17 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Your starter for 10... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <89225D57-ACB6-44A5-B7F9-B6BC52BC3056@icloud.com> Don?t know what it is or where it?s from but what is it doing on my kitchen table? ? Graeme Wall PS what is that strange object on the right? > On 10 Feb 2022, at 14:57, Dave Plowman via Tech1 wrote: > > Just where do you guess this was recovered from? Best possible taste replies only. > <20220210_143349.jpg>-- > Tech1 mailing list > Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk From chris at chriswoolf.co.uk Thu Feb 10 09:19:59 2022 From: chris at chriswoolf.co.uk (Chris Woolf) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2022 15:19:59 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] 'New' Postage stamps In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9a535e2f-9d36-d692-d993-1a17405d5914@chriswoolf.co.uk> Best of luck making a claim. The Post Office accepted a Special Delivery from me and failed to deliver the time-sensitive contents the next day. I claimed and just got wiped aside - a "Covid casualty" - no refund. Chris Woolf On 10/02/2022 11:04, Doug Puddifoot via Tech1 wrote: > > New technology is great, but maybe they should get it working before > it is introduced. I sent a parcel a couple of weeks ago. I booked it > on line, printed the label, and the postman arrived to collect it. His > scanner said the barcode was invalid. He said it should be the old > fashoned one D barcode, and this was a two D QR code. He finally > agreed to take it and enter it into the system using the tracking > number. I got notification it had been collected. However ten days and > several phone calls later they had no idear where it was. The gist of > the phone calls was that although you pay for "tracking" that is not > what happens. It is only scanned at pickup and delivery. "So if there > is no record of it by next week, just make a claim".? The company I > sent the parcel to finally confirmed it had arrived, so I sent a > complaint asking why they issued invalid barcodes. Their answer was > that they could see that it was entered into the system so obviously > there was no problem with the barcode, and since there was still no > record of it, I should make a claim. I have just replied saying that > if it did have a working barcode it would have been scanned when it > arrived and they would know where it was. I await the next excuse with > interest. > > Doug > > > > On 10 February 2022, at 09:12, patheigham via Tech1 > wrote: > > > Pretty much my thinking, Alan, but from a different angle. Royal Mail > has woken up, albeit tardily, to the fact that people buy stamps in > one year to avoid the price increase the next. > > I?ve been using ?Click & Drop? for some time, but do not find the > order form very easy ? why aren?t the fields labelled simply as > ?recipient? and ?sender? addresses! Also it?s unclear as to what point > one selects the print position on a sheet of four labels. I had to > have a couple of tutorials from Mike McCarthy on that! > > Pat > > Sent from Mail for > Windows > > *From: *Alan Taylor via Tech1 > *Sent: *09 February 2022 18:15 > *To: *tech1 > *Subject: *Re: [Tech1] 'New' Postage stamps > > I would expect the barcode to encode the price paid for the stamp, > which could prevent people using them after a price rise unless an > additional fee is paid. > > Paying online for stamps and printing the code onto the envelope has > been an option for many years and works well. ?The first envelope > going into the postal system bearing that particular code is the only > one which will get through ( in theory ). I can?t see much point in > buying the new barcode stamps as I send very few letters these days. > > Alan Taylor > > > > On 9 Feb 2022, at 18:08, patheigham via Tech1 > wrote: > > ? > > If you have read the item about Royal Mail introducing? new > postage stamps with bar codes, set me wondering suspiciously, if > the bar code is dated, so if the rates go up, as they do each year > ? should you try using a stamp bought the previous year could > attract the ?insufficient postage? marker and the recipient has to > pay a surcharge, and maybe have to traipse to the local delivery > office to collect the missive! > > Pat > > Sent from Mail > for Windows > > Avast logo > > > > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > www.avast.com > > > > -- > Tech1 mailing list > Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk > > -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pat.heigham at amps.net Thu Feb 10 09:22:00 2022 From: pat.heigham at amps.net (patheigham) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2022 15:22:00 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Your starter for 10... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <62052d96.1c69fb81.3c94.57c1@mx.google.com> Maybe a mummified dildo, employed by Cleopatra when Mark Antony was off fighting wars! Is the knot hole on the woodwork a clue? Would this baffle John or Victoria? Pat Sent from Mail for Windows From: Dave Plowman via Tech1 Sent: 10 February 2022 14:58 To: TechOps Subject: [Tech1] Your starter for 10... Just where do you guess this was recovered from? Best possible taste replies only. -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alanaudio at me.com Thu Feb 10 09:31:27 2022 From: alanaudio at me.com (Alan Taylor) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2022 15:31:27 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Your starter for 10... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <519A4245-AAF3-4343-A035-31A937D4E308@me.com> My guess is that the thing in the picture is your change, recovered from giving the Post Office a ten pound note and asking for a book of stamps. I?ve no idea what that thing on the left might be. Alan Taylor > On 10 Feb 2022, at 14:58, Dave Plowman via Tech1 wrote: > > ?Just where do you guess this was recovered from? Best possible taste replies only. > <20220210_143349.jpg> > -- > Tech1 mailing list > Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk From mibridge at mac.com Thu Feb 10 11:11:52 2022 From: mibridge at mac.com (Mike Giles) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2022 17:11:52 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] 'New' Postage stamps In-Reply-To: <9a535e2f-9d36-d692-d993-1a17405d5914@chriswoolf.co.uk> References: <9a535e2f-9d36-d692-d993-1a17405d5914@chriswoolf.co.uk> Message-ID: I used ?Tracked/signed for? via Royal Mail for my wife?s driver?s licence renewal application, with the old licence and the new photograph DVLA insisted on. The system acknowledged that I had entrusted the package to their tender care, but there was no record of delivery, let alone a signature. After a week, I rang Royal Mail to be told the same as Chris - presumed missing, make a claim, which would be pointless. This was a few weeks before Christmas, so we looked at the DVLA web-site., where it was made clear that they could not search for?missing? post as everything was dealt with in the order it arrived - they caused gloom and despondency by adding that they were dealing with a backlog, and were currently opening mail received in October! We waited until the festive postal rush was over and were on the point of sending a fresh application, with a statement that the old licence had been lost, when I did a final check on the DVLA web-site to discover that her licence had been updated, and indeed the new one arrived less than a week later. Therefore, when my renewal fell due, I decided just to use tracked/not signed for, as I presumed it was the requirement for a signature which had caused the confusion. But the counter clerk said they only handled ?tracked/signed for? - you need to print at home to get plain tracked! So I let it go and didn?t notice that I was charged three times what I?d paid before Christmas, as I was buying stamps and drawing cash at the same time. Sure enough, by the due time, this package had not arrived, but it did turn up 24 hours after the guaranteed delivery time. On principle, I claimed separately for both of these to be refunded and they actually paid out on the expensive one but didn?t even respond properly on the cheaper one - so I accepted a moral victory and took it no further. But it makes a nonsense of the whole system. The annoying thing is that if you are allowed to renew without a fresh photograph, it can be done very quickly online and the licence arrives very promptly. But because DVLA can?t accept a file online and don?t access the passport photo, even though they ask for the passport number, occasionally it?s necessary to use snail mail and very protracted it proved to be. Mike G > On 10 Feb 2022, at 15:20, Chris Woolf via Tech1 wrote: > > ? > Best of luck making a claim. > > The Post Office accepted a Special Delivery from me and failed to deliver the time-sensitive contents the next day. I claimed and just got wiped aside - a "Covid casualty" - no refund. > > Chris Woolf > > > > On 10/02/2022 11:04, Doug Puddifoot via Tech1 wrote: >> New technology is great, but maybe they should get it working before it is introduced. I sent a parcel a couple of weeks ago. I booked it on line, printed the label, and the postman arrived to collect it. His scanner said the barcode was invalid. He said it should be the old fashoned one D barcode, and this was a two D QR code. He finally agreed to take it and enter it into the system using the tracking number. I got notification it had been collected. However ten days and several phone calls later they had no idear where it was. The gist of the phone calls was that although you pay for "tracking" that is not what happens. It is only scanned at pickup and delivery. "So if there is no record of it by next week, just make a claim". The company I sent the parcel to finally confirmed it had arrived, so I sent a complaint asking why they issued invalid barcodes. Their answer was that they could see that it was entered into the system so obviously there was no problem with the barcode, and since there was still no record of it, I should make a claim. I have just replied saying that if it did have a working barcode it would have been scanned when it arrived and they would know where it was. I await the next excuse with interest. >> >> Doug >> >> >> >> On 10 February 2022, at 09:12, patheigham via Tech1 wrote: >> >> >> Pretty much my thinking, Alan, but from a different angle. Royal Mail has woken up, albeit tardily, to the fact that people buy stamps in one year to avoid the price increase the next. >> I?ve been using ?Click & Drop? for some time, but do not find the order form very easy ? why aren?t the fields labelled simply as ?recipient? and ?sender? addresses! Also it?s unclear as to what point one selects the print position on a sheet of four labels. I had to have a couple of tutorials from Mike McCarthy on that! >> Pat >> >> Sent from Mail for Windows >> >> From: Alan Taylor via Tech1 >> Sent: 09 February 2022 18:15 >> To: tech1 >> Subject: Re: [Tech1] 'New' Postage stamps >> >> I would expect the barcode to encode the price paid for the stamp, which could prevent people using them after a price rise unless an additional fee is paid. >> >> Paying online for stamps and printing the code onto the envelope has been an option for many years and works well. The first envelope going into the postal system bearing that particular code is the only one which will get through ( in theory ). I can?t see much point in buying the new barcode stamps as I send very few letters these days. >> >> Alan Taylor >> >> >> On 9 Feb 2022, at 18:08, patheigham via Tech1 wrote: >> >> ? >> If you have read the item about Royal Mail introducing new postage stamps with bar codes, set me wondering suspiciously, if the bar code is dated, so if the rates go up, as they do each year ? should you try using a stamp bought the previous year could attract the ?insufficient postage? marker and the recipient has to pay a surcharge, and maybe have to traipse to the local delivery office to collect the missive! >> >> Pat >> >> Sent from Mail for Windows >> >> >> >> >> >> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >> www.avast.com >> >> >> >> -- >> Tech1 mailing list >> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk >> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk >> >> >> > -- > Tech1 mailing list > Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pat.heigham at amps.net Thu Feb 10 11:46:28 2022 From: pat.heigham at amps.net (patheigham) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2022 17:46:28 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] 'New' Postage stamps In-Reply-To: References: <9a535e2f-9d36-d692-d993-1a17405d5914@chriswoolf.co.uk> Message-ID: <62054f73.1c69fb81.9bca4.213b@mx.google.com> Being of much older age, I have to renew my Driving Licence every 3 years. I did it on-line and it arrived within 3 days! Earlier, there was a question regarding sight. It?s worded: ? do you suffer from, or have ever, any sight problems?. Being honest, I admitted to two cataract operations. This led to my application plonked into a ?wait? tray, so I rang in and the lovely lass just said: ?Put No!? It?s the wording ? Have you ever.... Just like blinking phone menus ? none ever relate to your particular query! Is there a University degree in ?menu obfuscation?? Pat Sent from Mail for Windows From: Mike Giles via Tech1 Sent: 10 February 2022 17:12 To: Tech Ops Subject: Re: [Tech1] 'New' Postage stamps The annoying thing is that if you are allowed to renew without a fresh photograph, it can be done very quickly online and the licence arrives very promptly. But because DVLA can?t accept a file online and don?t access the passport photo, even though they ask for the passport number, occasionally it?s necessary to use snail mail and very protracted it proved to be.? Mike G -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dave.mdv at btinternet.com Thu Feb 10 13:11:12 2022 From: dave.mdv at btinternet.com (dave.mdv) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2022 19:11:12 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] New scam! Message-ID: I received the following message on my mobile this afternoon - 'NHS. You are eligible to apply for your NHS COVID pass. You could be fined if you fail to apply. To apply for your pass,? please go to nhs.status-16.com' - it was sent from +447784326773. Cheers, Dave. From waresound at msn.com Fri Feb 11 02:46:43 2022 From: waresound at msn.com (Nick Ware) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2022 08:46:43 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] The Russians are here! Message-ID: Yikes! A huge Antonov AN-12B four prop aircraft just passed our house at around 700ft and has landed at Dunsfold. Could it be dumping ?deaf? Liz Truss back, or something more sinister? N. Nick Ware - From my iPad mini 6 07802-246088 From ohbytheway.tv at gmail.com Fri Feb 11 03:05:14 2022 From: ohbytheway.tv at gmail.com (ohbytheway.tv at gmail.com) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2022 09:05:14 -0000 Subject: [Tech1] The Russians are here! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000801d81f26$7b8dab90$72a902b0$@gmail.com> There is nothing more sinister Dave D -----Original Message----- From: Tech1 On Behalf Of Nick Ware via Tech1 Sent: 11 February 2022 08:47 To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk Subject: [Tech1] The Russians are here! Yikes! A huge Antonov AN-12B four prop aircraft just passed our house at around 700ft and has landed at Dunsfold. Could it be dumping ?deaf? Liz Truss back, or something more sinister? N. Nick Ware - From my iPad mini 6 07802-246088 -- Tech1 mailing list Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk From graeme.wall at icloud.com Fri Feb 11 03:16:15 2022 From: graeme.wall at icloud.com (Graeme Wall) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2022 09:16:15 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] The Russians are here! In-Reply-To: <000801d81f26$7b8dab90$72a902b0$@gmail.com> References: <000801d81f26$7b8dab90$72a902b0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <92497D3E-0E0E-478E-A9AE-7E336B6F5379@icloud.com> I didn?t think Dunsfold was an operating airfield any more? Perhaps no-one told the Kremlin. ? Graeme Wall > On 11 Feb 2022, at 09:05, ohbytheway.tv--- via Tech1 wrote: > > There is nothing more sinister > Dave D > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tech1 On Behalf Of Nick Ware via Tech1 > Sent: 11 February 2022 08:47 > To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > Subject: [Tech1] The Russians are here! > > Yikes! A huge Antonov AN-12B four prop aircraft just passed our house at around 700ft and has landed at Dunsfold. Could it be dumping ?deaf? Liz Truss back, or something more sinister? > N. > Nick Ware - From my iPad mini 6 07802-246088 > -- > Tech1 mailing list > Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk > > > -- > Tech1 mailing list > Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk From alanaudio at me.com Fri Feb 11 03:57:21 2022 From: alanaudio at me.com (Alan Taylor) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2022 09:57:21 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] The Russians are here! In-Reply-To: <000801d81f26$7b8dab90$72a902b0$@gmail.com> References: <000801d81f26$7b8dab90$72a902b0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <85939A38-5671-4B23-AEA6-630E8F4F8022@me.com> I used to live at Newbury on a hill called Wash Common. They used to have air tattoos at Greenham Common before it became a cruise missile base. The runway lined up pretty well with the end of my garden. As the tattoo was building up, all sorts of weird and wonderful aircraft would make their final approach very low over my beech trees. One of the most memorable ones was what I assume to be an Antonov An-225, an absolute beast of an aircraft with six engines and about 30 wheels. It came over exceptionally low, which meant that I scarcely got any warning that it was on it?s way. I had a camera on the patio table, but there was no way I could down the garden in time. I?ve seen other transport aircraft and been up in a Hercules, but this thing was in a completely different league. It was immense. We occasionally have very low flying Hercules over our house. They follow a military corridor which runs from Peterborough to Gloucester, which passes the end of the garden at my present house. However the Hercules do a sudden turn over my house to the south, possibly using the church or castle as a marker. They are scarcely 100 feet above ground as they turn. It?s something which happens several times per year, but they arrive so suddenly that I?ve never been able to get my phone out of my pocket and fired up in time to photograph one, but it?s a very impressive sight as it sharply banks so low over the house opposite mine. I?m determined to get a picture one day. Alan Taylor > On 11 Feb 2022, at 09:05, ohbytheway.tv--- via Tech1 wrote: > > ?There is nothing more sinister > Dave D > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tech1 On Behalf Of Nick Ware via Tech1 > Sent: 11 February 2022 08:47 > To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > Subject: [Tech1] The Russians are here! > > Yikes! A huge Antonov AN-12B four prop aircraft just passed our house at around 700ft and has landed at Dunsfold. Could it be dumping ?deaf? Liz Truss back, or something more sinister? > N. > Nick Ware - From my iPad mini 6 07802-246088 > From Waresound at msn.com Fri Feb 11 04:32:44 2022 From: Waresound at msn.com (Nick Ware) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2022 10:32:44 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] The Russians are here! In-Reply-To: <92497D3E-0E0E-478E-A9AE-7E336B6F5379@icloud.com> References: <000801d81f26$7b8dab90$72a902b0$@gmail.com> <92497D3E-0E0E-478E-A9AE-7E336B6F5379@icloud.com> Message-ID: It?s not. It?s an industrial estate and gypsy site mainly. Oh, and home to Top Gear. Also three 747?s that will never fly again. One is a film set/prop, one a hireable events venue, the other recently bought from BA minus its engines for ?1.00, not sure what for. But ludicrously, there?s a current planning application to build 5,000 houses there with no infrastucture to support them. Cheers, Nick. Nick Ware - From my iPad mini 6 07802-246088 > On 11 Feb 2022, at 09:16, Graeme Wall wrote: > > ?I didn?t think Dunsfold was an operating airfield any more? Perhaps no-one told the Kremlin. > > ? > Graeme Wall > > >> On 11 Feb 2022, at 09:05, ohbytheway.tv--- via Tech1 wrote: >> >> There is nothing more sinister >> Dave D >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Tech1 On Behalf Of Nick Ware via Tech1 >> Sent: 11 February 2022 08:47 >> To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk >> Subject: [Tech1] The Russians are here! >> >> Yikes! A huge Antonov AN-12B four prop aircraft just passed our house at around 700ft and has landed at Dunsfold. Could it be dumping ?deaf? Liz Truss back, or something more sinister? >> N. >> Nick Ware - From my iPad mini 6 07802-246088 >> -- >> Tech1 mailing list >> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk >> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk >> >> >> -- >> Tech1 mailing list >> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk >> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk > From bernie833 at gmail.com Fri Feb 11 04:46:44 2022 From: bernie833 at gmail.com (Bernard Newnham) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2022 10:46:44 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Fwd: Blender In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <18d6ccc5-caab-4a06-a95f-9883e6031b24@gmail.com> Thanks to all for your (not) useful suggestions.? I have a perfectly good blender and I'm not afraid to use it. However -? Blender https://www.blender.org/ is an incredibly complex 3D computer graphics system https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Blender_(software)? . Here are a couple of showreels - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRqY_20ti9A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3JTx64C8q8 ...and it's free, so you can exercise your mind with it, growing your synapses and extending your active brain life, without even slightly denting your BBC pension. ? I wanted to create a very straightforward thing - a rectangular solid with one side lifted up to make a slope.? I've spent too much time on it, though it irritates me enormously to fail in such a simple task.? Having given up, I've done a 2D version in Photoshop which will be ok for what I need. cheers B -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: Re: [Tech1] Blender Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2022 15:14:42 +0000 From: Albert Barber To: Bernard Newnham CC: A Barber What do you want to do? We have a Magimix. Albert > On 9 Feb 2022, at 15:29, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 > wrote: > > > This Blender - https://www.blender.org/ > > Thanks for the reference, but I was just hoping that someone would say > "oh yes, that's really easy" . And I'm sure it is, from the > tutorials,? once you've climbed the short steep slope of basics.? I'd > spend the ?17 for the book, but it isn't a big enough project. > > B > > > > On 09/02/2022 09:04, Nick Ware via Tech1 wrote: >> Assuming that you?re not struggling with some fancy kitchen gadget >> normally only understood by they who must be obeyed, how about >> ?Blender for Dummies??! >> Available as paperback on Amazon etc., or cheaper options for Kindle. >> Cheers, >> N. >> Nick Ware - From my iPad mini 6 07802-246088 >> >>> On 8 Feb 2022, at 22:43, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 >>> wrote: >>> >>> ? Is anyone any good with Blender? >>> >>> I'm looking for a tiny favour - really easy for someone who knows >>> what they are doing, but I just don't seem to be able to manage it >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> B >>> >>> -- >>> Tech1 mailing list >>> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk >>> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk >> > > -- > Tech1 mailing list > Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bernie833 at gmail.com Fri Feb 11 04:59:07 2022 From: bernie833 at gmail.com (Bernard Newnham) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2022 10:59:07 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] The Russians are here! In-Reply-To: References: <000801d81f26$7b8dab90$72a902b0$@gmail.com> <92497D3E-0E0E-478E-A9AE-7E336B6F5379@icloud.com> Message-ID: <5b2450ce-730c-b7d9-ee37-1c17908b559c@gmail.com> Because I set up a Flightradar24 system for LTFC - Raspberry Pi and a USB tv tuner - I have a free business account whilst we keep sending info, so I've just replayed that time at Dunsfold. This is your aircraft - https://www.jetphotos.com/photo/10441334 https://www.radarbox.com/data/registration/UR-11819 inbound from somewhere in Africa B On 11/02/2022 10:32, Nick Ware via Tech1 wrote: > It?s not. It?s an industrial estate and gypsy site mainly. Oh, and home to Top Gear. Also three 747?s that will never fly again. One is a film set/prop, one a hireable events venue, the other recently bought from BA minus its engines for ?1.00, not sure what for. > But ludicrously, there?s a current planning application to build 5,000 houses there with no infrastucture to support them. > Cheers, > Nick. > Nick Ware - From my iPad mini 6 07802-246088 > >> On 11 Feb 2022, at 09:16, Graeme Wall wrote: >> >> ?I didn?t think Dunsfold was an operating airfield any more? Perhaps no-one told the Kremlin. >> >> ? >> Graeme Wall >> >> >>> On 11 Feb 2022, at 09:05, ohbytheway.tv--- via Tech1 wrote: >>> >>> There is nothing more sinister >>> Dave D >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Tech1 On Behalf Of Nick Ware via Tech1 >>> Sent: 11 February 2022 08:47 >>> To:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk >>> Subject: [Tech1] The Russians are here! >>> >>> Yikes! A huge Antonov AN-12B four prop aircraft just passed our house at around 700ft and has landed at Dunsfold. Could it be dumping ?deaf? Liz Truss back, or something more sinister? >>> N. >>> Nick Ware - From my iPad mini 6 07802-246088 >>> -- >>> Tech1 mailing list >>> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk >>> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Tech1 mailing list >>> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk >>> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From waresound at msn.com Fri Feb 11 07:24:07 2022 From: waresound at msn.com (Nick Ware) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2022 13:24:07 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] The Russians are here! In-Reply-To: References: <000801d81f26$7b8dab90$72a902b0$@gmail.com> <92497D3E-0E0E-478E-A9AE-7E336B6F5379@icloud.com> Message-ID: If you have Flighradar24 have a look right now at the Antonov doing circuits at very low level around the Dunsfold / Cranleigh area. Nick Ware - From my iPad mini 6 > On 11 Feb 2022, at 10:32, Nick Ware wrote: > > ?It?s not. It?s an industrial estate and gypsy site mainly. Oh, and home to Top Gear. Also three 747?s that will never fly again. One is a film set/prop, one a hireable events venue, the other recently bought from BA minus its engines for ?1.00, not sure what for. > But ludicrously, there?s a current planning application to build 5,000 houses there with no infrastucture to support them. > Cheers, > Nick. > Nick Ware - From my iPad mini 6 07802-246088 > >> On 11 Feb 2022, at 09:16, Graeme Wall wrote: >> >> ?I didn?t think Dunsfold was an operating airfield any more? Perhaps no-one told the Kremlin. >> >> ? >> Graeme Wall >> >> >>>> On 11 Feb 2022, at 09:05, ohbytheway.tv--- via Tech1 wrote: >>> >>> There is nothing more sinister >>> Dave D >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Tech1 On Behalf Of Nick Ware via Tech1 >>> Sent: 11 February 2022 08:47 >>> To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk >>> Subject: [Tech1] The Russians are here! >>> >>> Yikes! A huge Antonov AN-12B four prop aircraft just passed our house at around 700ft and has landed at Dunsfold. Could it be dumping ?deaf? Liz Truss back, or something more sinister? >>> N. >>> Nick Ware - From my iPad mini 6 07802-246088 >>> -- >>> Tech1 mailing list >>> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk >>> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Tech1 mailing list >>> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk >>> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk >> From jccglass at gmail.com Fri Feb 11 07:31:59 2022 From: jccglass at gmail.com (Chris on gmail) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2022 13:31:59 -0000 Subject: [Tech1] The Russians are here! References: <000801d81f26$7b8dab90$72a902b0$@gmail.com><92497D3E-0E0E-478E-A9AE-7E336B6F5379@icloud.com> Message-ID: <716681A4FD7A49788362CB64162E7E13@dell9100> yesterday around 2pm i saw 2 giant planes flying low heading north over ruislip not being a plane bough I assumed were some sort of american c 17 transport with the very high tail fins i m guessing from thier height they had just taken off from Northolt thought the were off to Crimea Chris From graeme.wall at icloud.com Fri Feb 11 07:38:16 2022 From: graeme.wall at icloud.com (Graeme Wall) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2022 13:38:16 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] The Russians are here! In-Reply-To: References: <000801d81f26$7b8dab90$72a902b0$@gmail.com> <92497D3E-0E0E-478E-A9AE-7E336B6F5379@icloud.com> Message-ID: <2226AB1B-9163-4CEC-8CFE-4644D3DAA41D@icloud.com> No sign of it here ? Graeme Wall > On 11 Feb 2022, at 13:24, Nick Ware via Tech1 wrote: > > If you have Flighradar24 have a look right now at the Antonov doing circuits at very low level around the Dunsfold / Cranleigh area. > > Nick Ware - From my iPad mini 6 > >> On 11 Feb 2022, at 10:32, Nick Ware wrote: >> >> ?It?s not. It?s an industrial estate and gypsy site mainly. Oh, and home to Top Gear. Also three 747?s that will never fly again. One is a film set/prop, one a hireable events venue, the other recently bought from BA minus its engines for ?1.00, not sure what for. >> But ludicrously, there?s a current planning application to build 5,000 houses there with no infrastucture to support them. >> Cheers, >> Nick. >> Nick Ware - From my iPad mini 6 07802-246088 >> >>> On 11 Feb 2022, at 09:16, Graeme Wall wrote: >>> >>> ?I didn?t think Dunsfold was an operating airfield any more? Perhaps no-one told the Kremlin. >>> >>> ? >>> Graeme Wall >>> >>> >>>>> On 11 Feb 2022, at 09:05, ohbytheway.tv--- via Tech1 wrote: >>>> >>>> There is nothing more sinister >>>> Dave D >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Tech1 On Behalf Of Nick Ware via Tech1 >>>> Sent: 11 February 2022 08:47 >>>> To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk >>>> Subject: [Tech1] The Russians are here! >>>> >>>> Yikes! A huge Antonov AN-12B four prop aircraft just passed our house at around 700ft and has landed at Dunsfold. Could it be dumping ?deaf? Liz Truss back, or something more sinister? >>>> N. >>>> Nick Ware - From my iPad mini 6 07802-246088 >>>> -- >>>> Tech1 mailing list >>>> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk >>>> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Tech1 mailing list >>>> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk >>>> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk >>> > -- > Tech1 mailing list > Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk From bernie833 at gmail.com Fri Feb 11 09:38:33 2022 From: bernie833 at gmail.com (Bernard Newnham) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2022 15:38:33 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] The Russians are here! In-Reply-To: References: <000801d81f26$7b8dab90$72a902b0$@gmail.com> <92497D3E-0E0E-478E-A9AE-7E336B6F5379@icloud.com> Message-ID: <1fa1949a-b2e3-9200-a108-4b666beaf8ca@gmail.com> Maybe filming Mission Impossible 24 ? On 11/02/2022 13:24, Nick Ware via Tech1 wrote: > If you have Flighradar24 have a look right now at the Antonov doing circuits at very low level around the Dunsfold / Cranleigh area. > > Nick Ware - From my iPad mini 6 > >> On 11 Feb 2022, at 10:32, Nick Ware wrote: >> >> ?It?s not. It?s an industrial estate and gypsy site mainly. Oh, and home to Top Gear. Also three 747?s that will never fly again. One is a film set/prop, one a hireable events venue, the other recently bought from BA minus its engines for ?1.00, not sure what for. >> But ludicrously, there?s a current planning application to build 5,000 houses there with no infrastucture to support them. >> Cheers, >> Nick. >> Nick Ware - From my iPad mini 6 07802-246088 >> >>> On 11 Feb 2022, at 09:16, Graeme Wall wrote: >>> >>> ?I didn?t think Dunsfold was an operating airfield any more? 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Had to then go out to Merriott, a large village between ourselves and the Crewkerne exchange. Spotted an Openreach engineer busy at a roadside cabinet so asked him if the presence a couple of hundred yards away of a large contingent of Openreach engineers (6 vehicles plus) had any connection with our problem. Oh yes he said ? they were dealing with the consequences of cable theft. It seems the thieves break into the cabinet, cut the copper wires free of their terminations, attach them to a vehicle and drive away pulling the cables out of the the buried duct. Coil up the wires, throw them in the van and vamoose. Service restored sometime after midday. So now we know what a ?network event? is (sounds more like a bring and buy sale). I learned there was a previous occurrence with the same MO elsewhere in the county. I wondered why the so-helpful sounding BT website continued with ?no known issues?. 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It takes me back to my BBC BH days when all BT coax cables had yellow tape around the joints for a similar reason since a?fat? cable was not necessarily full of lots of copper pairs but perhaps a couple of videos with lots of airspace and so not worth nicking. The old lead cables didn?t get stolen so much either for same reason. It upset thieves as well when GPO went to aluminium cables which were not worth so much. Network Rail are also changing the cable ducts (I see this alongside the Crossrail tracks out into Essex in particular) When cables were just strung along the posts or in ducts with easily removable lids, they were always getting nicked. Nowadays even cable on poles are in steel ducts with locking bits on each join between sections to make access harder. Mike From: David Newbitt via Tech1 On Wed afternoon we realised the landline was u/s. It could well have been down 24 hours before that as neither of us had initiated an outgoing call. So telephoned Firefly who were back within minutes to report a ?network event? affecting significant numbers of subscribers in the area. Telco dealing..... Checked the BT dedicated website https://www.bt.com/help/check-service-status#tabpanel-landline which indicated ?no known issues?. No change for the remainder of the day, nor throughout the following day, nor this morning up to elevenses. Had to then go out to Merriott, a large village between ourselves and the Crewkerne exchange. Spotted an Openreach engineer busy at a roadside cabinet so asked him if the presence a couple of hundred yards away of a large contingent of Openreach engineers (6 vehicles plus) had any connection with our problem. Oh yes he said ? they were dealing with the consequences of cable theft. It seems the thieves break into the cabinet, cut the copper wires free of their terminations, attach them to a vehicle and drive away pulling the cables out of the the buried duct. Coil up the wires, throw them in the van and vamoose. Service restored sometime after midday. So now we know what a ?network event? is (sounds more like a bring and buy sale). I learned there was a previous occurrence with the same MO elsewhere in the county. I wondered why the so-helpful sounding BT website continued with ?no known issues?. Engineer told me management are not readily persuaded of the need to keep the public informed. I dread to think of the cost of this debacle. What a society. Dave Newbitt. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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BT have now started > putting yellow tape on all cables that are just fibre to show thieves > that it is not worth stealing the cable ? especially as one fibre > cable now carries so many customers. > It takes me back to my BBC BH days when all BT coax cables had yellow > tape around the joints for a similar reason since a?fat? cable was not > necessarily full of lots of copper pairs but perhaps a couple of > videos with lots of airspace and so not worth nicking. The old lead > cables didn?t get stolen so much either for same reason. > It upset thieves as well when GPO went to aluminium cables which were > not worth so much. > Network Rail are also changing the cable ducts (I see this alongside > the Crossrail tracks out into Essex in particular) > When cables were just strung along the posts or in ducts with easily > removable lids, they were always getting nicked. > Nowadays even cable on poles are in steel ducts with locking bits on > each join between sections to make access harder. > Mike > *From:* David Newbitt via Tech1 > On Wed afternoon we realised the landline was u/s. It could well have > been down 24 hours before that as neither of us had initiated an > outgoing call. So telephoned Firefly who were back within minutes to > report a ?network event? affecting significant numbers of subscribers > in the area. Telco dealing..... > Checked the BT dedicated website > https://www.bt.com/help/check-service-status#tabpanel-landline which > indicated ?no known issues?. No change for the remainder of the day, > nor throughout the following day, nor this morning up to elevenses. > Had to then go out to Merriott, a large village between ourselves and > the Crewkerne exchange. Spotted an Openreach engineer busy at a > roadside cabinet so asked him if the presence a couple of hundred > yards away of a large contingent of Openreach engineers (6 vehicles > plus) had any connection with our problem. Oh yes he said ? they were > dealing with the consequences of cable theft. It seems the thieves > break into the cabinet, cut the copper wires free of their > terminations, attach them to a vehicle and drive away pulling the > cables out of the the buried duct. Coil up the wires, throw them in > the van and vamoose. > Service restored sometime after midday. So now we know what a ?network > event? is (sounds more like a bring and buy sale). I learned there was > a previous occurrence with the same MO elsewhere in the county. I > wondered why the so-helpful sounding BT website continued with ?no > known issues?. Engineer told me management are not readily persuaded > of the need to keep the public informed. > I dread to think of the cost of this debacle. What a society. > Dave Newbitt. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dave.mdv at btinternet.com Sat Feb 12 16:20:31 2022 From: dave.mdv at btinternet.com (dave.mdv) Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2022 22:20:31 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Spelling! Message-ID: Thieves, of course! I got 100 lines for miss-spelling it! BTW, do any of you geniarses know how to play 'Wordle'? My family WhatsApp pages are full of it and 'I haven't got a clue' (good name for a programme!). Cheers, Dave From davidvbrunt at gmail.com Sat Feb 12 16:32:26 2022 From: davidvbrunt at gmail.com (David Brunt) Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2022 22:32:26 -0000 Subject: [Tech1] Spelling! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Wordle is just a guessing game. You get six lines to work it out. https://www.nytimes.com/games/wordle/index.html First line would be a complete guess. Some people have hit lucky first line but it's very rare to get higher than third line. Pick a word for the first line that uses a load of vowels 'ariel', for example. Any correct letters will show up in one colour (one colour if the letter's right, but in the wrong place in the line. A different colour if the letter's in the right place). Then keep guessing until you hit the right one, usually by accident. If you don't get it in six lines, you're not alone. David -----Original Message----- From: dave.mdv via Tech1 Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2022 10:20 PM To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk ; Phil ; Dave Subject: [Tech1] Spelling! Thieves, of course! I got 100 lines for miss-spelling it! BTW, do any of you geniarses know how to play 'Wordle'? My family WhatsApp pages are full of it and 'I haven't got a clue' (good name for a programme!). Cheers, Dave -- Tech1 mailing list Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk From alanaudio at me.com Sat Feb 12 16:37:55 2022 From: alanaudio at me.com (Alan Taylor) Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2022 22:37:55 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Spelling! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: My wife occasionally plays it because staff at the hospital play it at quiet times during night shifts. She encouraged me to try too, so for my first guess I tried AUDIO, which did a good job of sorting out lots of vowels. She insisted it?s cheating to use a word like that and I should use a normal word, which of course it is, especially in our business. Alan Taylor > On 12 Feb 2022, at 22:20, dave.mdv via Tech1 wrote: > > ?Thieves, of course! I got 100 lines for miss-spelling it! BTW, do any of you geniarses know how to play 'Wordle'? My family WhatsApp pages are full of it and 'I haven't got a clue' (good name for a programme!). Cheers, Dave > > > -- > Tech1 mailing list > Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk From mibridge at mac.com Sat Feb 12 16:47:00 2022 From: mibridge at mac.com (M E GILES) Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2022 22:47:00 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Spelling! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Assuming that you?ve found Wordle in the first place, Dave, you`re presented with six rows of five columns of empty squares, with a keyboard beneath. Simply start typing and row one will fill in order.You must choose a valid five letter word, but your first attempt is merely a wild guess ~ some start with the same word every time, for example ?adieu? includes most of the vowels. I usually just pick any word from my fertile brain! Press ?ENTER? (bottom left) and each letter will adopt a colour or a grey fill. Green means you have a correct letter in the correct location. Yellow(ish) means it?s a correct letter but in the wrong place. Using what you?ve learned from row one, complete row two, avoiding any of the greyed out letters, of course, placing the green ones in the same place and using the yellow ones in alternative slots. Only genuine words are accepted. If you?ve failed to find the right word by row six, the answer will appear and you can hang your head (privately) in shame! I?ve done eleven so far, with 3 correct by row 3, 2 by row 4, 2 by row 5 and 3 by row 6 and one ignominious failure. It?s quite addictive, so it?s just as well that only one word is released each day ~ changeover is at midnight if you can?t wait! Bon chance! Mike G > On 12 Feb 2022, at 22:20, dave.mdv via Tech1 wrote: > > Thieves, of course! I got 100 lines for miss-spelling it! BTW, do any of you geniarses know how to play 'Wordle'? My family WhatsApp pages are full of it and 'I haven't got a clue' (good name for a programme!). Cheers, Dave > > > -- > Tech1 mailing list > Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk From barrybonner119 at btinternet.com Sat Feb 12 18:25:16 2022 From: barrybonner119 at btinternet.com (Barry Bonner) Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2022 00:25:16 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Spelling! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: For ?misspelling" was it? Barry. On 12 Feb 2022, at 22:20, dave.mdv via Tech1 wrote: > Thieves, of course! I got 100 lines for miss-spelling it! BTW, do any of you geniarses know how to play 'Wordle'? My family WhatsApp pages are full of it and 'I haven't got a clue' (good name for a programme!). Cheers, Dave > > > -- > Tech1 mailing list > Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Cheers, Dave >> >> >> -- >> Tech1 mailing list >> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk >> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk > -- Tech1 mailing list Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mibridge at mac.com Sun Feb 13 01:29:53 2022 From: mibridge at mac.com (Mike Giles) Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2022 07:29:53 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Spelling! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Same applies to Scrabble, but that allows English spelling too. Mike G > On 13 Feb 2022, at 06:20, Peter Fox via Tech1 wrote: > > ?There were some Twitter Moans last week about American spellings in Wordle. eg HUMOR So perhaps best to avoid getting hooked for the sake of your sanity? > > Peter Fox > > On 13 Feb 2022, at 00:34, dave.mdv via Tech1 wrote: > > ? > Obviously, my English language teacher was a Miss Pelling who wasn't very good at her job! Thanks, Barry for pointing it out! (clever arse!) Cheers, Dave > > On 13/02/2022 00:25, Barry Bonner wrote: >> For ?misspelling" was it? >> Barry. >> >> >> >> On 12 Feb 2022, at 22:20, dave.mdv via Tech1 wrote: >> >>> Thieves, of course! I got 100 lines for miss-spelling it! BTW, do any of you geniarses know how to play 'Wordle'? My family WhatsApp pages are full of it and 'I haven't got a clue' (good name for a programme!). Cheers, Dave >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Tech1 mailing list >>> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk >>> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk >> > -- > Tech1 mailing list > Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk > -- > Tech1 mailing list > Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alawrance1 at me.com Sun Feb 13 02:11:05 2022 From: alawrance1 at me.com (Alasdair Lawrance) Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2022 08:11:05 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Spelling! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <623ED65C-7CD1-4805-ABFE-2EE9D4427E58@me.com> I've had a look at this Wordle thing, and if you scroll down there is an option for different languages, (and length of words), including UK English. Alasdair Lawrance Don?t blame me, I voted Remain. > On 13 Feb 2022, at 07:31, Mike Giles via Tech1 wrote: > > ? > Same applies to Scrabble, but that allows English spelling too. > > Mike G > >>> On 13 Feb 2022, at 06:20, Peter Fox via Tech1 wrote: >>> >> ?There were some Twitter Moans last week about American spellings in Wordle. eg HUMOR So perhaps best to avoid getting hooked for the sake of your sanity? >> >> Peter Fox >> >> On 13 Feb 2022, at 00:34, dave.mdv via Tech1 wrote: >> >> ? >> Obviously, my English language teacher was a Miss Pelling who wasn't very good at her job! Thanks, Barry for pointing it out! (clever arse!) Cheers, Dave >> >> On 13/02/2022 00:25, Barry Bonner wrote: >>> For ?misspelling" was it? >>> Barry. >>> >>> >>> >>>> On 12 Feb 2022, at 22:20, dave.mdv via Tech1 wrote: >>>> >>>> Thieves, of course! I got 100 lines for miss-spelling it! BTW, do any of you geniarses know how to play 'Wordle'? My family WhatsApp pages are full of it and 'I haven't got a clue' (good name for a programme!). 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(Got today's word in 4) John Nottage On 13/02/2022 00:25, Barry Bonner via Tech1 wrote: > For ?misspelling" was it? > Barry. > > > > On 12 Feb 2022, at 22:20, dave.mdv via Tech1 > wrote: > >> Thieves, of course! I got 100 lines for miss-spelling it! BTW, do any >> of you geniarses know how to play 'Wordle'? My family WhatsApp pages >> are full of it and 'I haven't got a clue' (good name for a >> programme!). Cheers, Dave >> >> >> -- >> Tech1 mailing list >> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk >> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk > > From pat.heigham at amps.net Sun Feb 13 02:30:17 2022 From: pat.heigham at amps.net (patheigham) Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2022 08:30:17 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Spelling! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6208c199.1c69fb81.27c26.e1d5@mx.google.com> Just wonder if your teacher?s first name might have been Sarah or Susan, then she would have been Miss S Pelling! (Oh Ha Ha! Pat, now go and lie down!). At boarding Prep School, I was sent to the Headmaster for not being able to spell ?shepherd? He believed in corporal punishment, so I was invited to touch my toes and received two strokes of his bamboo cane. I heard that girls were often thwacked with the tawse across the hands which I thought wrong ? hands could be badly damaged. Suppose the individual might have tried to go on to become a talented instrumentalist? US spelling irritates me. I think it was Shaw who said that USA and UK were two countries separated by a single language, or something. I read a lot of detective novels set in America and I constantly pause at what I regard as misspelling. (they've got their own way of spelling ?arse?). There was mention of Scrabble ? I remember working on Steptoe, and one episode was cleverly written, when Harold got annoyed with the old man, who constantly put down rude words! Last night on TV, there was a retrospective programme of extracts of Parkinson interviewing Peter Ustinov, now there was a man with an enviable command of languages. I was pleased to have worked with him once, for an NBC historical about the history of tennis. Much enjoyed his humorous wit. Pat Sent from Mail for Windows From: dave.mdv via Tech1 Sent: 13 February 2022 00:33 To: Barry Bonner; tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk Subject: Re: [Tech1] Spelling! Obviously, my English language teacher was a Miss Pelling who wasn't very good at her job! Thanks, Barry for pointing it out! (clever arse!) Cheers, Dave On 13/02/2022 00:25, Barry Bonner wrote: For ?misspelling" was it? Barry. On 12 Feb 2022, at 22:20, dave.mdv via Tech1 wrote: Thieves, of course! I got 100 lines for miss-spelling it! BTW, do any of you geniarses know how to play 'Wordle'? My family WhatsApp pages are full of it and 'I haven't got a clue' (good name for a programme!). Cheers, Dave -- Tech1 mailing list Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From peter.neill at icloud.com Sun Feb 13 02:34:04 2022 From: peter.neill at icloud.com (Peter Neill) Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2022 08:34:04 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Spelling! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <38154676-0699-47FB-8C0D-2E0BCC5BD19C@icloud.com> Josh Wardle, the British developer (who lives in the US) sold the game to NYT for ?a low 7 figure sum? a couple of weeks ago. There are several similar games around including Sweardle and Lewdle. Sent from my iPhone. Apologies for typos and autocorruptions. > On 13 Feb 2022, at 08:29, John Nottage via Tech1 wrote: > > ?I'm confused. The Wordle link I've been using was not the NY Times - until today. Suddenly it's the NY Times, though the new site still has my stats. > (Got today's word in 4) > > John Nottage > >> On 13/02/2022 00:25, Barry Bonner via Tech1 wrote: >> For ?misspelling" was it? >> Barry. >>> On 12 Feb 2022, at 22:20, dave.mdv via Tech1 > wrote: >>> Thieves, of course! I got 100 lines for miss-spelling it! BTW, do any of you geniarses know how to play 'Wordle'? My family WhatsApp pages are full of it and 'I haven't got a clue' (good name for a programme!). Cheers, Dave >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Tech1 mailing list >>> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk >>> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk > > > -- > Tech1 mailing list > Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk From mibridge at mac.com Sun Feb 13 02:46:22 2022 From: mibridge at mac.com (Mike Giles) Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2022 08:46:22 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Spelling! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2877A249-DF14-48D7-9921-E762A8CD9401@mac.com> Any advance on three? Mike G > On 13 Feb 2022, at 08:29, John Nottage via Tech1 wrote: > > ?I'm confused. The Wordle link I've been using was not the NY Times - until today. Suddenly it's the NY Times, though the new site still has my stats. > (Got today's word in 4) > > John Nottage > >> On 13/02/2022 00:25, Barry Bonner via Tech1 wrote: >> For ?misspelling" was it? >> Barry. >>> On 12 Feb 2022, at 22:20, dave.mdv via Tech1 > wrote: >>> Thieves, of course! I got 100 lines for miss-spelling it! BTW, do any of you geniarses know how to play 'Wordle'? My family WhatsApp pages are full of it and 'I haven't got a clue' (good name for a programme!). Cheers, Dave >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Tech1 mailing list >>> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk >>> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk > > > -- > Tech1 mailing list > Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk From nickrodger at mac.com Sun Feb 13 03:17:38 2022 From: nickrodger at mac.com (Nick Rodger) Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2022 09:17:38 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Spelling! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Wordless is not totally a guessing game. The first line is, and there are some words which are tactically better than others. Once you have some correct letters, or better, correct letters in the correct positions, you can then start deducing, similar to anagrams in crosswords. Nick Rodger Cameraman (Retired) 07971 007578 nickrodger at mac.com Sent from my iPhone. Please excuse typos and auto~corruptions!! Don?t blame me!! I voted Remain ?? On 13 Feb 2022, at 08:29, John Nottage via Tech1 wrote: ?I'm confused. The Wordle link I've been using was not the NY Times - until today. Suddenly it's the NY Times, though the new site still has my stats. (Got today's word in 4) John Nottage On 13/02/2022 00:25, Barry Bonner via Tech1 wrote: > For ?misspelling" was it? > Barry. > On 12 Feb 2022, at 22:20, dave.mdv via Tech1 > wrote: >> Thieves, of course! I got 100 lines for miss-spelling it! BTW, do any of you geniarses know how to play 'Wordle'? My family WhatsApp pages are full of it and 'I haven't got a clue' (good name for a programme!). Cheers, Dave >> >> >> -- >> Tech1 mailing list >> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk >> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk -- Tech1 mailing list Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk From alanaudio at me.com Sun Feb 13 03:28:30 2022 From: alanaudio at me.com (Alan Taylor) Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2022 09:28:30 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Spelling! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <76ECEA16-4F35-43D4-B615-9B6363A6B52D@me.com> Wordle was devised by a bloke as a fun project and it ended up going viral. It?s now been sold to the NYT ( I believe for a million pounds ) and they have promised to keep it free to play and free from advertising ?? initially. Alan Taylor > On 13 Feb 2022, at 08:29, John Nottage via Tech1 wrote: > > ?I'm confused. The Wordle link I've been using was not the NY Times - until today. Suddenly it's the NY Times, though the new site still has my stats. > (Got today's word in 4) > > John Nottage > >> On 13/02/2022 00:25, Barry Bonner via Tech1 wrote: >> For ?misspelling" was it? >> Barry. >>> On 12 Feb 2022, at 22:20, dave.mdv via Tech1 > wrote: >>> Thieves, of course! I got 100 lines for miss-spelling it! BTW, do any of you geniarses know how to play 'Wordle'? My family WhatsApp pages are full of it and 'I haven't got a clue' (good name for a programme!). Cheers, Dave >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Tech1 mailing list >>> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk >>> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk > > > -- > Tech1 mailing list > Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk From alanaudio at me.com Sun Feb 13 04:32:07 2022 From: alanaudio at me.com (Alan Taylor) Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2022 10:32:07 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Interesting use of technology Message-ID: https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/feb/13/satellite-technology-creates-virtual-grazing-areas-in-epping-forest The article explains how grazing cows have been fitted with GPS gadgets so that they can graze freely in parts of Epping Forest, but kept away from certain areas, such as roads and how the permitted areas can be refined on a smartphone before places become overgrazed. In essence, it?s a virtual electric fence which gives a warning sound as the prospect of a shock approaches. 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In essence, it?s a virtual electric fence which gives a warning sound as the prospect of a shock approaches. It?s a great idea which could be deployed in many other areas. > > Alan Taylor > -- > Tech1 mailing list > Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bernie833 at gmail.com Sun Feb 13 05:11:22 2022 From: bernie833 at gmail.com (Bernard Newnham) Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2022 11:11:22 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Interesting use of technology In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8bc48a59-8f19-e08b-97f5-25cc27d14b48@gmail.com> Sort of similar subject. Well, technology, anyway...... I've ripped this off the Daily Mail online website to get rid of all the crap.?? I know not everyone agrees, but I'm really pleased that someone who people actually listen to says the same as I have been for many years.? I bet Andrew Neil got paid a fortune for writing the same words as me. Attached B On 13/02/2022 10:32, Alan Taylor via Tech1 wrote: > https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/feb/13/satellite-technology-creates-virtual-grazing-areas-in-epping-forest > > > The article explains how grazing cows have been fitted with GPS > gadgets so that they can graze freely in parts of Epping Forest, but > kept away from certain areas, such as roads and how the permitted > areas can be refined on a smartphone before places become overgrazed. > ?In essence, it?s a virtual electric fence which gives a warning sound > as the prospect of a shock approaches. ?It?s a great idea which could > be deployed in many other areas. > > Alan Taylor > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: andrew Neil.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 63026 bytes Desc: not available URL: From graeme.wall at icloud.com Sun Feb 13 05:28:21 2022 From: graeme.wall at icloud.com (Graeme Wall) Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2022 11:28:21 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Interesting use of technology In-Reply-To: <8bc48a59-8f19-e08b-97f5-25cc27d14b48@gmail.com> References: <8bc48a59-8f19-e08b-97f5-25cc27d14b48@gmail.com> Message-ID: Andrew Neil bleating about hypocrisy, hmmm? Perhaps this should go to the political forum. ? Graeme Wall > On 13 Feb 2022, at 11:11, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 wrote: > > Sort of similar subject. Well, technology, anyway...... > > I've ripped this off the Daily Mail online website to get rid of all the crap. I know not everyone agrees, but I'm really pleased that someone who people actually listen to says the same as I have been for many years. I bet Andrew Neil got paid a fortune for writing the same words as me. > > Attached > > B > > > On 13/02/2022 10:32, Alan Taylor via Tech1 wrote: >> https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/feb/13/satellite-technology-creates-virtual-grazing-areas-in-epping-forest >> >> The article explains how grazing cows have been fitted with GPS gadgets so that they can graze freely in parts of Epping Forest, but kept away from certain areas, such as roads and how the permitted areas can be refined on a smartphone before places become overgrazed. In essence, it?s a virtual electric fence which gives a warning sound as the prospect of a shock approaches. It?s a great idea which could be deployed in many other areas. >> >> Alan Taylor >> > > > -- > Tech1 mailing list > Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk From davesound at btinternet.com Sun Feb 13 05:40:03 2022 From: davesound at btinternet.com (Dave Plowman) Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2022 11:40:03 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Interesting use of technology In-Reply-To: <8bc48a59-8f19-e08b-97f5-25cc27d14b48@gmail.com> References: <8bc48a59-8f19-e08b-97f5-25cc27d14b48@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4f4b943f-3bed-1e4b-3298-0560051a2fe8@btinternet.com> The general standards of reporting on any technological subject is often poor. Was interested in Chiltern Trains modifying their diesel electric stock to hybrids. One article just said by adding a? battery from Rolls Royce. The went on to claim a 70% reduction in NOX output, and a 20% saving in fuel. On 13/02/2022 11:11, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 wrote: > Sort of similar subject. Well, technology, anyway...... > > I've ripped this off the Daily Mail online website to get rid of all > the crap.?? I know not everyone agrees, but I'm really pleased that > someone who people actually listen to says the same as I have been for > many years.? I bet Andrew Neil got paid a fortune for writing the same > words as me. > > Attached > > B > > > On 13/02/2022 10:32, Alan Taylor via Tech1 wrote: >> https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/feb/13/satellite-technology-creates-virtual-grazing-areas-in-epping-forest >> >> >> The article explains how grazing cows have been fitted with GPS >> gadgets so that they can graze freely in parts of Epping Forest, but >> kept away from certain areas, such as roads and how the permitted >> areas can be refined on a smartphone before places become overgrazed. >> ?In essence, it?s a virtual electric fence which gives a warning >> sound as the prospect of a shock approaches. ?It?s a great idea which >> could be deployed in many other areas. >> >> Alan Taylor >> > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From saranewman at hotmail.com Sun Feb 13 05:43:55 2022 From: saranewman at hotmail.com (Sara Newman) Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2022 11:43:55 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Cable theft In-Reply-To: <2a587eac-a910-2acf-a3fa-b432c3215f17@btinternet.com> References: <4FA6B25B05394B3DBBD43A4AF437C5B2@Gigabyte> <2a587eac-a910-2acf-a3fa-b432c3215f17@btinternet.com> Message-ID: This happened all the time in Africa The cables were sold to the fishermen. We had a major issue getting money when the business district of Accra was hit We ended up having our bank at the Toyota garage in another district until the cables were finally replaced weeks and weeks later ! Sent from my iPhone On 12 Feb 2022, at 00:20, dave.mdv via Tech1 wrote: ? On Millenium night my scanner was just next to Jubilee Gardens on the South Bank. When we came to de-rig on Jan. 1st. 2001 we found that all of the 'cables' to the site had been stolen. Unfortunately, for the theives, they weren't copper but fibre! Tough s**t! Cheers, Dave On 11/02/2022 22:11, Mike Jordan via Tech1 wrote: That sort of thing is happening all the time. BT have now started putting yellow tape on all cables that are just fibre to show thieves that it is not worth stealing the cable ? especially as one fibre cable now carries so many customers. It takes me back to my BBC BH days when all BT coax cables had yellow tape around the joints for a similar reason since a?fat? cable was not necessarily full of lots of copper pairs but perhaps a couple of videos with lots of airspace and so not worth nicking. The old lead cables didn?t get stolen so much either for same reason. It upset thieves as well when GPO went to aluminium cables which were not worth so much. Network Rail are also changing the cable ducts (I see this alongside the Crossrail tracks out into Essex in particular) When cables were just strung along the posts or in ducts with easily removable lids, they were always getting nicked. Nowadays even cable on poles are in steel ducts with locking bits on each join between sections to make access harder. Mike From: David Newbitt via Tech1 On Wed afternoon we realised the landline was u/s. It could well have been down 24 hours before that as neither of us had initiated an outgoing call. So telephoned Firefly who were back within minutes to report a ?network event? affecting significant numbers of subscribers in the area. Telco dealing..... Checked the BT dedicated website https://www.bt.com/help/check-service-status#tabpanel-landline which indicated ?no known issues?. No change for the remainder of the day, nor throughout the following day, nor this morning up to elevenses. Had to then go out to Merriott, a large village between ourselves and the Crewkerne exchange. Spotted an Openreach engineer busy at a roadside cabinet so asked him if the presence a couple of hundred yards away of a large contingent of Openreach engineers (6 vehicles plus) had any connection with our problem. Oh yes he said ? they were dealing with the consequences of cable theft. It seems the thieves break into the cabinet, cut the copper wires free of their terminations, attach them to a vehicle and drive away pulling the cables out of the the buried duct. Coil up the wires, throw them in the van and vamoose. Service restored sometime after midday. So now we know what a ?network event? is (sounds more like a bring and buy sale). I learned there was a previous occurrence with the same MO elsewhere in the county. I wondered why the so-helpful sounding BT website continued with ?no known issues?. Engineer told me management are not readily persuaded of the need to keep the public informed. I dread to think of the cost of this debacle. What a society. 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Some of them run under the North Sea, I believe. The conveyors which once brought out the coal, should be made to run in reverse, to transport the bulk rubbish to the end. But no doubt they are rusting and useless now. We made holes in the ground ? let?s fill them up! Carbon emissions ? do we want a lingering painful death, or shall we put all the nuclear stuff in a pile, and organise a final earth splitting sodding bang to become a supernova. And could all the politicians be plonked on the top of the bonfire, like Guy Fawkes. There could be a celebratory day, like Nov. 5th. Oops, sorry, we wouldn?t be here any more, would we! Pat Sent from Mail for Windows From: Bernard Newnham via Tech1 Sent: 13 February 2022 11:11 To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk Subject: Re: [Tech1] Interesting use of technology Sort of similar subject. Well, technology, anyway...... I've ripped this off the Daily Mail online website to get rid of all the crap.?? I know not everyone agrees, but I'm really pleased that someone who people actually listen to says the same as I have been for many years.? I bet Andrew Neil got paid a fortune for writing the same words as me. Attached B -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pat.heigham at amps.net Sun Feb 13 08:01:44 2022 From: pat.heigham at amps.net (patheigham) Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2022 14:01:44 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] School Message-ID: <62090f47.1c69fb81.56a2a.bfb7@mx.google.com> I touched on the subject of caning at prep school, but here?s another story: I was at the same school as Jeremy Irons ? our mothers were good friends and I remember digging sandcastles with him on the beach at Bembridge in the Isle of Wight. Jeremy went on to become a very successful actor, and I as a technician on the other side of the camera. One job I had was to pick up interviews on ?Danny-Champion of the World? (1989) as there were three generations of the family in the same cast ? Cyril Cusack, Jeremy Irons and the latter?s son Sam. After the interviews, I just said to Jeremy: ?Can I say two words to you? The crew were horrified, expecting me to slag him off, or something. I said ?Little Appley? which had been our prep school. Jeremy said: ?I thought I recognised you? and it became the film moment where the background goes all soft focus, and it was just the two of us chatting. My Mum reckoned he was the spitting image of his father ? darkly handsome. I loved the story when he had taken Sin?ad Cusack out to dinner and was invited in for coffee. He said (apparently) If I come in, I?ll never leave! ?Cut. Print!? Pat Sent from Mail for Windows -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From relong at btinternet.com Sun Feb 13 09:17:31 2022 From: relong at btinternet.com (Roger Long) Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2022 15:17:31 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Interesting use of technology In-Reply-To: <8bc48a59-8f19-e08b-97f5-25cc27d14b48@gmail.com> References: <8bc48a59-8f19-e08b-97f5-25cc27d14b48@gmail.com> Message-ID: The Bowlands Field could be our transition to renewables . The Green loons have thwarted its development and made us reliant on unreliable sources. Seismic activity is similar to mining and job creation is implicit. Not sure I would like it in our valley but secure energy is an essential ingredient to a long term prosperity Sent from my iPhone > On 13 Feb 2022, at 11:11, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 wrote: > > ? Sort of similar subject. Well, technology, anyway...... > > I've ripped this off the Daily Mail online website to get rid of all the crap. I know not everyone agrees, but I'm really pleased that someone who people actually listen to says the same as I have been for many years. I bet Andrew Neil got paid a fortune for writing the same words as me. > > Attached > > B > > > On 13/02/2022 10:32, Alan Taylor via Tech1 wrote: >> https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/feb/13/satellite-technology-creates-virtual-grazing-areas-in-epping-forest >> >> The article explains how grazing cows have been fitted with GPS gadgets so that they can graze freely in parts of Epping Forest, but kept away from certain areas, such as roads and how the permitted areas can be refined on a smartphone before places become overgrazed. In essence, it?s a virtual electric fence which gives a warning sound as the prospect of a shock approaches. It?s a great idea which could be deployed in many other areas. >> >> Alan Taylor >> >> > > -- > Tech1 mailing list > Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: andrew Neil.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 63026 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From chris at chriswoolf.co.uk Sun Feb 13 09:52:42 2022 From: chris at chriswoolf.co.uk (Chris Woolf) Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2022 15:52:42 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Interesting use of technology In-Reply-To: References: <8bc48a59-8f19-e08b-97f5-25cc27d14b48@gmail.com> Message-ID: <9f7471ee-78e3-2639-7df7-d1e964b1564a@chriswoolf.co.uk> On 13/02/2022 15:17, Roger Long via Tech1 wrote: > The Bowlands Field could be our transition to renewables > The Green loons have thwarted its development and made us reliant on > unreliable sources. Speaking as a green loon.... No, Roger using fracking in the UK is not a clever idea. > Seismic activity is similar to mining and job creation is implicit. Seismic activity with coal-mining was a relatively predictable and controllable activity, and above all was caused by removal of material. The problem with fracking is the injection of liquid - nominally water, but actually a cocktail of quite a large number of materials that increase viscosity and help with the flow of gas. This stuff helps spread a vast network of cracks and fissures underground to release the gas, but does so in a relatively uncontrolled fashion. The concern about that is penetration of ground water supplies, themselves extremely random and hard-to-map regions. Once buggered you can do nothing about contaminated groundwater the source is wrecked for many decades. It has been a serious problem in the US, but they have got away with it in most cases because the US is BIG - we are small. We don't have the physical spacing to take the risks involved, even if the rewards of gas were actual, rather than speculatory. We really, really, do not want any more carbon based fuels exploited. There is no need for them, and the present mess the UK energy industry is in because it hasn't even been looking at current technology, let alone planning for the future. The world has ample proven clean technology in a developed state - it is just "us" that have been staggeringly slow to employ it. For the last couple of decades we have been building tens of thousands of houses with crap insulation and wasteful gas heating, because it is cheap for developers to do that. It costs the customers money; it costs the environment even more, but it allows Persimmon etc to make whacking great profits. It is a splendid indication that several members of this group have been able to implement efficient carbon-light homes that use low energy inputs - it is not difficult for us as a nation. However we do have to be a lot less insular in our outlook and recognise that we need to catch up with what is already there (and may be build more of it here) rather than think we know better than everyone else. > Not sure I would like it in our valley but secure energy is an > essential ingredient to a > long term prosperity > No, you wouldn't like it - and if you had a water supply anywhere hear it you would be terrified. Secure energy is not a temporary carbon fix - it is using the an energy source that is safe for a few centuries. Chris Woolf > Sent from my iPhone > >> On 13 Feb 2022, at 11:11, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 >> wrote: >> >> ? Sort of similar subject. Well, technology, anyway...... >> >> I've ripped this off the Daily Mail online website to get rid of all >> the crap.?? I know not everyone agrees, but I'm really pleased that >> someone who people actually listen to says the same as I have been >> for many years.? I bet Andrew Neil got paid a fortune for writing the >> same words as me. >> >> Attached >> >> B >> >> >> On 13/02/2022 10:32, Alan Taylor via Tech1 wrote: >>> https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/feb/13/satellite-technology-creates-virtual-grazing-areas-in-epping-forest >>> >>> >>> The article explains how grazing cows have been fitted with GPS >>> gadgets so that they can graze freely in parts of Epping Forest, but >>> kept away from certain areas, such as roads and how the permitted >>> areas can be refined on a smartphone before places become >>> overgrazed. ?In essence, it?s a virtual electric fence which gives a >>> warning sound as the prospect of a shock approaches. ?It?s a great >>> idea which could be deployed in many other areas. >>> >>> Alan Taylor >>> >> > >> -- >> Tech1 mailing list >> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk >> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk > -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bernie833 at gmail.com Sun Feb 13 09:56:53 2022 From: bernie833 at gmail.com (Bernard Newnham) Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2022 15:56:53 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Interesting use of technology In-Reply-To: References: <8bc48a59-8f19-e08b-97f5-25cc27d14b48@gmail.com> Message-ID: <2be33371-c086-506b-b35e-710a17f5d7a6@gmail.com> Looking at the various maps, it seems that shale gas could be in a lots of places.? Our local airfield, Fairoaks, was going to be a garden village for a while, making some foreign (American, mostly)? shareholder rich. Currently it's following the latest trend and converting hangars into film support facilities, but I can't help thinking that when the Texans get wind of the winds of change, there'll be a fracking farm right in the middle.? I can have my own direct gas main. Graeme suggests that this should be in the politics forum, but I rather think that it transcends politics - at the level of "Is there milk in the fridge for breakfast, always providing that the fridge is working?"? Not politics, though politics shapes things, but more at the level of basic living. ? Watch the growing numbers of newspaper articles on resources in the next few months as the price rise hits us -? "Last Six Governments Derelict in Duty to UK" B On 13/02/2022 15:17, Roger Long wrote: > The Bowlands Field could be our transition to renewables . > The Green loons have thwarted its development and made us reliant on > unreliable sources. > Seismic activity is similar to mining and job creation is implicit. > Not sure I would like it in our valley but secure energy is an > essential ingredient to a > long term prosperity > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On 13 Feb 2022, at 11:11, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 >> wrote: >> >> ? Sort of similar subject. Well, technology, anyway...... >> >> I've ripped this off the Daily Mail online website to get rid of all >> the crap.?? I know not everyone agrees, but I'm really pleased that >> someone who people actually listen to says the same as I have been >> for many years.? I bet Andrew Neil got paid a fortune for writing the >> same words as me. >> >> Attached >> >> B >> >> >> On 13/02/2022 10:32, Alan Taylor via Tech1 wrote: >>> https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/feb/13/satellite-technology-creates-virtual-grazing-areas-in-epping-forest >>> >>> >>> The article explains how grazing cows have been fitted with GPS >>> gadgets so that they can graze freely in parts of Epping Forest, but >>> kept away from certain areas, such as roads and how the permitted >>> areas can be refined on a smartphone before places become >>> overgrazed. ?In essence, it?s a virtual electric fence which gives a >>> warning sound as the prospect of a shock approaches. ?It?s a great >>> idea which could be deployed in many other areas. >>> >>> Alan Taylor >>> >> > >> -- >> Tech1 mailing list >> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk >> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From relong at btinternet.com Sun Feb 13 10:06:23 2022 From: relong at btinternet.com (Roger Long) Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2022 16:06:23 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Interesting use of technology In-Reply-To: <9f7471ee-78e3-2639-7df7-d1e964b1564a@chriswoolf.co.uk> References: <9f7471ee-78e3-2639-7df7-d1e964b1564a@chriswoolf.co.uk> Message-ID: Coal mining was never predictable Chris I lived in the Forest of Dean and mines there stretched for miles and subsidence was very common As for water table contamination can you quote a serious example , there is much disinformation. Our housing stock is poorly insulated , we live a temperate and damp maritime climate with high home ownership , cheap houses now rather than expensive ones in retirement as in Germany I?m all for clean energy but we need a sensible transition without the lights going out Sent from my iPhone > On 13 Feb 2022, at 15:53, Chris Woolf via Tech1 wrote: > > ? > > > On 13/02/2022 15:17, Roger Long via Tech1 wrote: >> The Bowlands Field could be our transition to renewables >> The Green loons have thwarted its development and made us reliant on unreliable sources. > Speaking as a green loon.... No, Roger using fracking in the UK is not a clever idea. >> Seismic activity is similar to mining and job creation is implicit. > Seismic activity with coal-mining was a relatively predictable and controllable activity, and above all was caused by removal of material. The problem with fracking is the injection of liquid - nominally water, but actually a cocktail of quite a large number of materials that increase viscosity and help with the flow of gas. This stuff helps spread a vast network of cracks and fissures underground to release the gas, but does so in a relatively uncontrolled fashion. > > The concern about that is penetration of ground water supplies, themselves extremely random and hard-to-map regions. Once buggered you can do nothing about contaminated groundwater the source is wrecked for many decades. It has been a serious problem in the US, but they have got away with it in most cases because the US is BIG - we are small. We don't have the physical spacing to take the risks involved, even if the rewards of gas were actual, rather than speculatory. > > We really, really, do not want any more carbon based fuels exploited. There is no need for them, and the present mess the UK energy industry is in because it hasn't even been looking at current technology, let alone planning for the future. The world has ample proven clean technology in a developed state - it is just "us" that have been staggeringly slow to employ it. For the last couple of decades we have been building tens of thousands of houses with crap insulation and wasteful gas heating, because it is cheap for developers to do that. It costs the customers money; it costs the environment even more, but it allows Persimmon etc to make whacking great profits. > > It is a splendid indication that several members of this group have been able to implement efficient carbon-light homes that use low energy inputs - it is not difficult for us as a nation. However we do have to be a lot less insular in our outlook and recognise that we need to catch up with what is already there (and may be build more of it here) rather than think we know better than everyone else. > >> Not sure I would like it in our valley but secure energy is an essential ingredient to a >> long term prosperity >> > No, you wouldn't like it - and if you had a water supply anywhere hear it you would be terrified. Secure energy is not a temporary carbon fix - it is using the an energy source that is safe for a few centuries. > > > > Chris Woolf > > > >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On 13 Feb 2022, at 11:11, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 wrote: >>> >>> ? Sort of similar subject. Well, technology, anyway...... >>> >>> I've ripped this off the Daily Mail online website to get rid of all the crap. I know not everyone agrees, but I'm really pleased that someone who people actually listen to says the same as I have been for many years. I bet Andrew Neil got paid a fortune for writing the same words as me. >>> >>> Attached >>> >>> B >>> >>> >>> On 13/02/2022 10:32, Alan Taylor via Tech1 wrote: >>>> https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/feb/13/satellite-technology-creates-virtual-grazing-areas-in-epping-forest >>>> >>>> The article explains how grazing cows have been fitted with GPS gadgets so that they can graze freely in parts of Epping Forest, but kept away from certain areas, such as roads and how the permitted areas can be refined on a smartphone before places become overgrazed. In essence, it?s a virtual electric fence which gives a warning sound as the prospect of a shock approaches. It?s a great idea which could be deployed in many other areas. >>>> >>>> Alan Taylor >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >>> -- >>> Tech1 mailing list >>> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk >>> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk >> > > Virus-free. www.avast.com > -- > Tech1 mailing list > Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From chris at chriswoolf.co.uk Sun Feb 13 10:36:17 2022 From: chris at chriswoolf.co.uk (Chris Woolf) Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2022 16:36:17 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Interesting use of technology In-Reply-To: <31c65a21-d0c3-83c7-0119-fee973bc51b2@gmail.com> References: <8bc48a59-8f19-e08b-97f5-25cc27d14b48@gmail.com> <9f7471ee-78e3-2639-7df7-d1e964b1564a@chriswoolf.co.uk> <31c65a21-d0c3-83c7-0119-fee973bc51b2@gmail.com> Message-ID: Costs always drop into two boxes - the cost of installation and the cost of running. And those costs need to be evaluated as both simple money and also environmental costs. Many on this list will be old enough to remember the environmental costs of heating houses with cheap coal - the murderous London fogs earlier last century. The financially more expensive smokeless fuels were deemed essential, just as the smoke requirements for diesels and the catalytic treatment of car exhausts make motoring more expensive, but improve our health. In running cost terms heat pump systems give 200-400% heat output for a given energy input. Other systems can only approach 90% at best (and are often nearer 60%). That tells you the running costs are massively tilted in favour of such systems. In very broad brush terms an air source heat pump installation in a house is 10k against a gas boiler at ?5k. That disguises real costs because a gas boiler needs maintenance every year and current versions are unlikely to last >10years. Heat pumps need almost no maintenance and projected life is 20years. Given that, the spread installation costs probably tilt slightly towards the heat pumps. So do your own maths - every developer will put in a gas boiler until prevented. Every householder will prefer the annual bills of a heat pump. Mind you the British are notorious for being bamboozled by headline prices. Hence Ryanair's ability to sell us Brits an apparently cheap airfare while landing us with a very expensive taxi fare at each end to get where we really want. We all know "by cheap, buy twice". While fracking would never have created any quantity of jobs - the system works almost unattended - extending the building and installation of heat pumps in this country could happen very quickly, and would be a high quality job for 10s of thousands. It is an industry waiting to happen. The corollary of all that - insulating houses properly - is incredibly cheap when done from new. There is low cost housing being built in several places that comes up to passivhaus standards. It really isn't difficult or expensive - it's just that we need a government that gets long-term policies into place, rather than sticking plaster stuff. Chris Woolf On 13/02/2022 16:06, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 wrote: > > > On 13/02/2022 15:52, Chris Woolf via Tech1 wrote: >> have been able to implement efficient carbon-light homes that use low >> energy inputs > > Any ideas on costs? > > B > > -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From pat.heigham at amps.net Sun Feb 13 14:01:28 2022 From: pat.heigham at amps.net (patheigham) Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2022 20:01:28 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Evelyn Glennie Message-ID: <62096397.1c69fb81.bdb9d.84ab@mx.google.com> BBC 4 Broadcast a 1992 Prom for Evelyn Gennie. I am a great fan, not only for a superb musician who is profoundly deaf, but for a particular moment. After interviewing her at her house, I de-rigged the radio mic and lost the mic clip. Didn?t worry as they were not that expensive. Had to film her at the RAH, later, and she sought me out to return the clip which had fallen into her filing drawer. Not many people would have bothered with that. Although profoundly deaf, as long as she could lipread your face a perfectly normal conversation ensued. Nice lady Pat Sent from Mail for Windows -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Alan Taylor > On 13 Feb 2022, at 21:36, Alec Bray via Tech1 wrote: > > ? > Hi all, > Always thought "Call the Midwife" was reasonably good on period detail (excepting blown down 625 line TV aeriels some seasons back) but tonight oh dear oh dear oh dear.... > > A diesel on the electrified route to Chelmsford > > And a class 20 at that (slow General freight only as designed) > > Signalled by GWR lower quadrant signals > > Colliding with tanks propelled by a class 08 shunter (TOPS came in after 1971) > > maybe more things but am away from home and using phone only > > !!! > > Best regards Alec > > sent from my mobile phone. Apologies for any strange autocorrections. > -- > Tech1 mailing list > Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk From tuckergarth at me.com Sun Feb 13 16:28:12 2022 From: tuckergarth at me.com (Garth Tucker) Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2022 22:28:12 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Fwd: Interesting use of technology References: <8bc48a59-8f19-e08b-97f5-25cc27d14b48@gmail.com> Message-ID: <2AD6B9FF-0255-4BF5-8667-4D77BD9FD250@me.com> Bernie, I clicked on the pdf you sent re andrew neil and Adobe charged me ?21.14 for it. And as you may have guessed, I?m no lover of the Daily Mail. Garth > Begin forwarded message: > > From: Bernard Newnham via Tech1 > Subject: Re: [Tech1] Interesting use of technology > Date: 13 February 2022 at 11:11:22 GMT > To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > Reply-To: Bernard Newnham > > Sort of similar subject. Well, technology, anyway...... > > I've ripped this off the Daily Mail online website to get rid of all the crap. I know not everyone agrees, but I'm really pleased that someone who people actually listen to says the same as I have been for many years. I bet Andrew Neil got paid a fortune for writing the same words as me. > > Attached > > B > > > On 13/02/2022 10:32, Alan Taylor via Tech1 wrote: >> https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/feb/13/satellite-technology-creates-virtual-grazing-areas-in-epping-forest >> >> The article explains how grazing cows have been fitted with GPS gadgets so that they can graze freely in parts of Epping Forest, but kept away from certain areas, such as roads and how the permitted areas can be refined on a smartphone before places become overgrazed. In essence, it?s a virtual electric fence which gives a warning sound as the prospect of a shock approaches. It?s a great idea which could be deployed in many other areas. >> >> Alan Taylor >> >> > > -- > Tech1 mailing list > Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: andrew Neil.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 63025 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bernie833 at gmail.com Mon Feb 14 04:17:53 2022 From: bernie833 at gmail.com (Bernard Newnham) Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2022 10:17:53 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Fwd: Interesting use of technology In-Reply-To: <2AD6B9FF-0255-4BF5-8667-4D77BD9FD250@me.com> References: <8bc48a59-8f19-e08b-97f5-25cc27d14b48@gmail.com> <2AD6B9FF-0255-4BF5-8667-4D77BD9FD250@me.com> Message-ID: <4f742870-b301-1df9-36ec-707fedb8e0f5@ntlworld.com> Ummm...... Is it that you didn't have an alternate pdf reader already installed? There are lots of them. As for the Daily Mail - it was what Andrew Neil said that I thought mattered. I imagine that as a freelance he would have sold his rant to anyone who paid. I was just amazed to read words that I've been saying for many years written down. cheers B On 13/02/2022 22:28, Garth Tucker via Tech1 wrote: > Bernie, I clicked on the pdf you sent re andrew neil and Adobe charged > me ?21.14 for it. And as you may have guessed, I?m no lover of the > Daily Mail. > > Garth > >> Begin forwarded message: >> >> *From: *Bernard Newnham via Tech1 >> *Subject: **Re: [Tech1] Interesting use of technology* >> *Date: *13 February 2022 at 11:11:22 GMT >> *To: *tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk >> *Reply-To: *Bernard Newnham >> >> Sort of similar subject. Well, technology, anyway...... >> >> I've ripped this off the Daily Mail online website to get rid of all >> the crap.?? I know not everyone agrees, but I'm really pleased that >> someone who people actually listen to says the same as I have been >> for many years.? I bet Andrew Neil got paid a fortune for writing the >> same words as me. >> >> Attached >> >> B >> >> >> On 13/02/2022 10:32, Alan Taylor via Tech1 wrote: >>> https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/feb/13/satellite-technology-creates-virtual-grazing-areas-in-epping-forest >>> >>> >>> The article explains how grazing cows have been fitted with GPS >>> gadgets so that they can graze freely in parts of Epping Forest, but >>> kept away from certain areas, such as roads and how the permitted >>> areas can be refined on a smartphone before places become >>> overgrazed. ?In essence, it?s a virtual electric fence which gives a >>> warning sound as the prospect of a shock approaches. ?It?s a great >>> idea which could be deployed in many other areas. >>> >>> Alan Taylor >>> >> > >> -- >> Tech1 mailing list >> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk >> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Ummm...... > > Is it that you didn't have an alternate pdf reader already installed? There are lots of them. > > As for the Daily Mail - it was what Andrew Neil said that I thought mattered. I imagine that as a freelance he would have sold his rant to anyone who paid. I was just amazed to read words that I've been saying for many years written down. > > cheers > > B > > > > On 13/02/2022 22:28, Garth Tucker via Tech1 wrote: >> Bernie, I clicked on the pdf you sent re andrew neil and Adobe charged me ?21.14 for it. And as you may have guessed, I?m no lover of the Daily Mail. >> >> Garth >> >>> Begin forwarded message: >>> >>> From: Bernard Newnham via Tech1 >>> Subject: Re: [Tech1] Interesting use of technology >>> Date: 13 February 2022 at 11:11:22 GMT >>> To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk >>> Reply-To: Bernard Newnham >>> >>> Sort of similar subject. Well, technology, anyway...... >>> >>> I've ripped this off the Daily Mail online website to get rid of all the crap. I know not everyone agrees, but I'm really pleased that someone who people actually listen to says the same as I have been for many years. I bet Andrew Neil got paid a fortune for writing the same words as me. >>> >>> Attached >>> >>> B >>> >>> >>> On 13/02/2022 10:32, Alan Taylor via Tech1 wrote: >>>> https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/feb/13/satellite-technology-creates-virtual-grazing-areas-in-epping-forest >>>> >>>> The article explains how grazing cows have been fitted with GPS gadgets so that they can graze freely in parts of Epping Forest, but kept away from certain areas, such as roads and how the permitted areas can be refined on a smartphone before places become overgrazed. In essence, it?s a virtual electric fence which gives a warning sound as the prospect of a shock approaches. It?s a great idea which could be deployed in many other areas. >>>> >>>> Alan Taylor >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >>> -- >>> Tech1 mailing list >>> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk >>> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk >> >> > > -- > Tech1 mailing list > Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From waresound at msn.com Mon Feb 14 04:46:48 2022 From: waresound at msn.com (Nick Ware) Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2022 10:46:48 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Routemaster moment or rather railway moment(s) Message-ID: On the whole I think that Call the Midwife is quality TV. Well written, convincingly acted, and mostly not wrecked by distractingly shoddy direction/camerawork, and with generally good intelligible sound. It would probably be fair to say that railway anoraks are not the target audience, whereas people like my wife are. She is an avid fan, a mother, an NHS worker (but thankfully not a Nun!), and doesn?t give a fig if the trains are running a decade early or late. She?s far too busy going ?oh dear oh dear oh dear? when newborn babies magically pop out looking clean and already a month old, or ?jelly babies?, animated by squeeze-bulbs and plastic tubing, rather than real ones. You can?t satisfy everyone! And re- the pink levitating lady - It?s worth remembering that a lot of productions have carried on pretty ingeniously throughout Covid, observing social distancing, etc. As we all know it?s easy to be a couch critic when you weren?t there and have no knowledge of the whys and wherefores. I lay claims to being the worst offender at that! Cheers, Nick. Nick Ware - From my iPad mini 6 > On 13 Feb 2022, at 21:36, Alec Bray via Tech1 wrote: > ? > Hi all, > Always thought "Call the Midwife" was reasonably good on period detail (excepting blown down 625 line TV aeriels some seasons back) but tonight oh dear oh dear oh dear.... > > A diesel on the electrified route to Chelmsford > > And a class 20 at that (slow General freight only as designed) > > Signalled by GWR lower quadrant signals > > Colliding with tanks propelled by a class 08 shunter (TOPS came in after 1971) > > maybe more things but am away from home and using phone only > > !!! > > Best regards Alec > > sent from my mobile phone. Apologies for any strange autocorrections. > -- > Tech1 mailing list > Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk From dave.mdv at btinternet.com Mon Feb 14 04:50:13 2022 From: dave.mdv at btinternet.com (dave.mdv) Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2022 10:50:13 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] .pdf readers In-Reply-To: <626BE213-EB12-4C1F-AC9A-73F0738238EA@gmail.com> References: <4f742870-b301-1df9-36ec-707fedb8e0f5@ntlworld.com> <626BE213-EB12-4C1F-AC9A-73F0738238EA@gmail.com> Message-ID: <12f9ae5a-8bab-2136-1fa1-94f6c60d4738@btinternet.com> I stopped using the Adobe one many years ago and have used the free Foxit Reader ever since. It has it's own Editor and many other useful facilities as well. Cheers, Dave On 14/02/2022 10:35, Geoffrey Hawkes via Tech1 wrote: > The story of what Garth found about being charged and extortionate > amount to read a pdf file seems extraordinary and needs more > unpacking. I have the Adobe reader installed that was a free download > and I assume still is, and I?ve opened and read lots of pdfs without > ever incurring a charge, so what happened in this case and why? > Bernie, you referred to an alternative pdf reader, whatever that is - > and I?d like to know if there?s any alternative free, safe, editing > software to download as that?s often the catch, > Geoff > >> On 14 Feb 2022, at 10:18, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 >> wrote: >> >> ? Ummm...... >> >> Is it that you didn't have an alternate pdf reader already installed? >> There are lots of them. >> >> As for the Daily Mail - it was what Andrew Neil said that I thought >> mattered. I imagine that as a freelance he would have sold his rant >> to anyone who paid. I was just amazed to read words that I've been >> saying for many years written down. >> >> cheers >> >> B >> >> >> >> On 13/02/2022 22:28, Garth Tucker via Tech1 wrote: >>> Bernie, I clicked on the pdf you sent re andrew neil and Adobe >>> charged me ?21.14 for it. And as you may have guessed, I?m no lover >>> of the Daily Mail. >>> >>> Garth >>> >>>> Begin forwarded message: >>>> >>>> *From: *Bernard Newnham via Tech1 >>>> *Subject: **Re: [Tech1] Interesting use of technology* >>>> *Date: *13 February 2022 at 11:11:22 GMT >>>> *To: *tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk >>>> *Reply-To: *Bernard Newnham >>>> >>>> Sort of similar subject. Well, technology, anyway...... >>>> >>>> I've ripped this off the Daily Mail online website to get rid of >>>> all the crap.?? I know not everyone agrees, but I'm really pleased >>>> that someone who people actually listen to says the same as I have >>>> been for many years. I bet Andrew Neil got paid a fortune for >>>> writing the same words as me. >>>> >>>> Attached >>>> >>>> B >>>> >>>> >>>> On 13/02/2022 10:32, Alan Taylor via Tech1 wrote: >>>>> https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/feb/13/satellite-technology-creates-virtual-grazing-areas-in-epping-forest >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The article explains how grazing cows have been fitted with GPS >>>>> gadgets so that they can graze freely in parts of Epping Forest, >>>>> but kept away from certain areas, such as roads and how the >>>>> permitted areas can be refined on a smartphone before places >>>>> become overgrazed. ?In essence, it?s a virtual electric fence >>>>> which gives a warning sound as the prospect of a shock approaches. >>>>> ?It?s a great idea which could be deployed in many other areas. >>>>> >>>>> Alan Taylor >>>>> >>>> >>> >>>> -- >>>> Tech1 mailing list >>>> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk >>>> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk >>> >>> >> >> -- >> Tech1 mailing list >> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk >> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From geoff.hawkes134 at gmail.com Mon Feb 14 04:52:57 2022 From: geoff.hawkes134 at gmail.com (Geoffrey Hawkes) Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2022 10:52:57 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] .pdf readers In-Reply-To: <12f9ae5a-8bab-2136-1fa1-94f6c60d4738@btinternet.com> References: <12f9ae5a-8bab-2136-1fa1-94f6c60d4738@btinternet.com> Message-ID: That sounds good and I?ll have to look into it, Geoff > On 14 Feb 2022, at 10:50, dave.mdv wrote: > > ? > I stopped using the Adobe one many years ago and have used the free Foxit Reader ever since. It has it's own Editor and many other useful facilities as well. Cheers, Dave > > On 14/02/2022 10:35, Geoffrey Hawkes via Tech1 wrote: >> The story of what Garth found about being charged and extortionate amount to read a pdf file seems extraordinary and needs more unpacking. I have the Adobe reader installed that was a free download and I assume still is, and I?ve opened and read lots of pdfs without ever incurring a charge, so what happened in this case and why? >> Bernie, you referred to an alternative pdf reader, whatever that is - and I?d like to know if there?s any alternative free, safe, editing software to download as that?s often the catch, >> Geoff >> >>> On 14 Feb 2022, at 10:18, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 wrote: >>> >>> ? Ummm...... >>> >>> Is it that you didn't have an alternate pdf reader already installed? There are lots of them. >>> >>> As for the Daily Mail - it was what Andrew Neil said that I thought mattered. I imagine that as a freelance he would have sold his rant to anyone who paid. I was just amazed to read words that I've been saying for many years written down. >>> >>> cheers >>> >>> B >>> >>> >>> >>> On 13/02/2022 22:28, Garth Tucker via Tech1 wrote: >>>> Bernie, I clicked on the pdf you sent re andrew neil and Adobe charged me ?21.14 for it. And as you may have guessed, I?m no lover of the Daily Mail. >>>> >>>> Garth >>>> >>>>> Begin forwarded message: >>>>> >>>>> From: Bernard Newnham via Tech1 >>>>> Subject: Re: [Tech1] Interesting use of technology >>>>> Date: 13 February 2022 at 11:11:22 GMT >>>>> To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk >>>>> Reply-To: Bernard Newnham >>>>> >>>>> Sort of similar subject. Well, technology, anyway...... >>>>> >>>>> I've ripped this off the Daily Mail online website to get rid of all the crap. I know not everyone agrees, but I'm really pleased that someone who people actually listen to says the same as I have been for many years. I bet Andrew Neil got paid a fortune for writing the same words as me. >>>>> >>>>> Attached >>>>> >>>>> B >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 13/02/2022 10:32, Alan Taylor via Tech1 wrote: >>>>>> https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/feb/13/satellite-technology-creates-virtual-grazing-areas-in-epping-forest >>>>>> >>>>>> The article explains how grazing cows have been fitted with GPS gadgets so that they can graze freely in parts of Epping Forest, but kept away from certain areas, such as roads and how the permitted areas can be refined on a smartphone before places become overgrazed. In essence, it?s a virtual electric fence which gives a warning sound as the prospect of a shock approaches. 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I imagine that as a freelance he would have sold his rant to anyone who paid. I was just amazed to read words that I've been saying for many years written down. cheers B On 13/02/2022 22:28, Garth Tucker via Tech1 wrote: Bernie, I clicked on the pdf you sent re andrew neil and Adobe charged me ?21.14 for it. And as you may have guessed, I?m no lover of the Daily Mail. Garth Begin forwarded message: From: Bernard Newnham via Tech1 > Subject: Re: [Tech1] Interesting use of technology Date: 13 February 2022 at 11:11:22 GMT To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk Reply-To: Bernard Newnham > Sort of similar subject. Well, technology, anyway...... I've ripped this off the Daily Mail online website to get rid of all the crap. I know not everyone agrees, but I'm really pleased that someone who people actually listen to says the same as I have been for many years. I bet Andrew Neil got paid a fortune for writing the same words as me. 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URL: From bernie833 at gmail.com Mon Feb 14 05:12:24 2022 From: bernie833 at gmail.com (Bernard Newnham) Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2022 11:12:24 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Fwd: Interesting use of technology In-Reply-To: <002401d82192$9fc2df80$df489e80$@gmail.com> References: <8bc48a59-8f19-e08b-97f5-25cc27d14b48@gmail.com> <2AD6B9FF-0255-4BF5-8667-4D77BD9FD250@me.com> <4f742870-b301-1df9-36ec-707fedb8e0f5@ntlworld.com> <002401d82192$9fc2df80$df489e80$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <0ddd18f8-82ae-9b39-d1a7-17bae6c22e40@gmail.com> Geoff says? - "The story of what Garth found about being charged and extortionate amount to read a pdf file seems extraordinary and needs more unpacking. "?? Yes, it does. This from Google - ...and a touch more Googling will find lots more.? I use Libreoffice for all my office stuff, and have done since it was Staroffice on the Atari ST.? It will open and edit PDFs all for free. So - Garth, what did you do? B On 14/02/2022 11:04, David Denness wrote: > > ?& absolutely nothing to do with his six figure investment in > Cuadrilla, of course? > > David J Denness > > daviddenness at ohbytheway.co.uk > > 07836 371108 > > *From:*Tech1 *On Behalf Of *Bernard > Newnham via Tech1 > *Sent:* 14 February 2022 10:18 > *To:* tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > *Cc:* Bernard Newnham > *Subject:* Re: [Tech1] Fwd: Interesting use of technology > > Ummm...... > > Is it that you didn't have an alternate pdf reader already installed? > There are lots of them. > > As for the Daily Mail - it was what Andrew Neil said that I thought > mattered. I imagine that as a freelance he would have sold his rant to > anyone who paid. I was just amazed to read words that I've been saying > for many years written down. > > cheers > > B > > > On 13/02/2022 22:28, Garth Tucker via Tech1 wrote: > > Bernie, I clicked on the pdf you sent re andrew neil and Adobe > charged me ?21.14 for it. And as you may have guessed, I?m no > lover of the Daily Mail. > > Garth > > > > Begin forwarded message: > > *From: *Bernard Newnham via Tech1 > > *Subject: Re: [Tech1] Interesting use of technology* > > *Date: *13 February 2022 at 11:11:22 GMT > > *To: *tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > > *Reply-To: *Bernard Newnham > > Sort of similar subject. Well, technology, anyway...... > > I've ripped this off the Daily Mail online website to get rid > of all the crap.?? I know not everyone agrees, but I'm really > pleased that someone who people actually listen to says the > same as I have been for many years.? I bet Andrew Neil got > paid a fortune for writing the same words as me. > > Attached > > B > > On 13/02/2022 10:32, Alan Taylor via Tech1 wrote: > > https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/feb/13/satellite-technology-creates-virtual-grazing-areas-in-epping-forest > > > The article explains how grazing cows have been fitted > with GPS gadgets so that they can graze freely in parts of > Epping Forest, but kept away from certain areas, such as > roads and how the permitted areas can be refined on a > smartphone before places become overgrazed. ?In essence, > it?s a virtual electric fence which gives a warning sound > as the prospect of a shock approaches. ?It?s a great idea > which could be deployed in many other areas. > > Alan Taylor > > > > > > -- > Tech1 mailing list > Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I bought the oily stuff years ago for the good dividends, and have confidence that those companies know as well as little me how things are changing, and that they have a lot of money to put in to renewables etc, because they'd like to keep trading. You all also have investments in huge companies via your BBC pension, if you have one.?? All this shock horror about BP and Shell making loads of money out of the oil price rise ignores where lots of that money goes - which is into pension funds in the UK. To see what the BBC currently has see here - https://www.bbc.com/mypension/about-the-scheme/top-20-investments/ A lot of Chinese stuff there. B On 14/02/2022 11:04, David Denness wrote: > > ?& absolutely nothing to do with his six figure investment in > Cuadrilla, of course? > > David J Denness > > daviddenness at ohbytheway.co.uk > > 07836 371108 > > *From:*Tech1 *On Behalf Of *Bernard > Newnham via Tech1 > *Sent:* 14 February 2022 10:18 > *To:* tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > *Cc:* Bernard Newnham > *Subject:* Re: [Tech1] Fwd: Interesting use of technology > > Ummm...... > > Is it that you didn't have an alternate pdf reader already installed? > There are lots of them. > > As for the Daily Mail - it was what Andrew Neil said that I thought > mattered. I imagine that as a freelance he would have sold his rant to > anyone who paid. I was just amazed to read words that I've been saying > for many years written down. > > cheers > > B > > > On 13/02/2022 22:28, Garth Tucker via Tech1 wrote: > > Bernie, I clicked on the pdf you sent re andrew neil and Adobe > charged me ?21.14 for it. And as you may have guessed, I?m no > lover of the Daily Mail. > > Garth > > > > Begin forwarded message: > > *From: *Bernard Newnham via Tech1 > > *Subject: Re: [Tech1] Interesting use of technology* > > *Date: *13 February 2022 at 11:11:22 GMT > > *To: *tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > > *Reply-To: *Bernard Newnham > > Sort of similar subject. Well, technology, anyway...... > > I've ripped this off the Daily Mail online website to get rid > of all the crap.?? I know not everyone agrees, but I'm really > pleased that someone who people actually listen to says the > same as I have been for many years.? I bet Andrew Neil got > paid a fortune for writing the same words as me. > > Attached > > B > > On 13/02/2022 10:32, Alan Taylor via Tech1 wrote: > > https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/feb/13/satellite-technology-creates-virtual-grazing-areas-in-epping-forest > > > The article explains how grazing cows have been fitted > with GPS gadgets so that they can graze freely in parts of > Epping Forest, but kept away from certain areas, such as > roads and how the permitted areas can be refined on a > smartphone before places become overgrazed. ?In essence, > it?s a virtual electric fence which gives a warning sound > as the prospect of a shock approaches. ?It?s a great idea > which could be deployed in many other areas. > > Alan Taylor > > > > > > -- > Tech1 mailing list > Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Garth Begin forwarded message: From: Bernard Newnham via Tech1 Subject: Re: [Tech1] Interesting use of technology Date: 13 February 2022 at 11:11:22 GMT To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk Reply-To: Bernard Newnham Sort of similar subject. Well, technology, anyway...... I've ripped this off the Daily Mail online website to get rid of all the crap.?? I know not everyone agrees, but I'm really pleased that someone who people actually listen to says the same as I have been for many years.? I bet Andrew Neil got paid a fortune for writing the same words as me. 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I have the Adobe reader installed that was a free download and I assume still is, and I?ve opened and read lots of pdfs without ever incurring a charge, so what happened in this case and why? Bernie, you referred to an alternative pdf reader, whatever that is - and I?d like to know if there?s any alternative free, safe, editing software to download as that?s often the catch, Geoff On 14 Feb 2022, at 10:18, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 wrote: ? Ummm...... Is it that you didn't have an alternate pdf reader already installed? There are lots of them. As for the Daily Mail - it was what Andrew Neil said that I thought mattered. I imagine that as a freelance he would have sold his rant to anyone who paid. I was just amazed to read words that I've been saying for many years written down. cheers B On 13/02/2022 22:28, Garth Tucker via Tech1 wrote: Bernie, I clicked on the pdf you sent re andrew neil and Adobe charged me ?21.14 for it. And as you may have guessed, I?m no lover of the Daily Mail. Garth Begin forwarded message: From: Bernard Newnham via Tech1 Subject: Re: [Tech1] Interesting use of technology Date: 13 February 2022 at 11:11:22 GMT To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk Reply-To: Bernard Newnham Sort of similar subject. Well, technology, anyway...... I've ripped this off the Daily Mail online website to get rid of all the crap.?? I know not everyone agrees, but I'm really pleased that someone who people actually listen to says the same as I have been for many years.? I bet Andrew Neil got paid a fortune for writing the same words as me. 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URL: From tuckergarth at me.com Mon Feb 14 06:10:33 2022 From: tuckergarth at me.com (Garth Tucker) Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2022 12:10:33 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Remiss Message-ID: Hi Bernie, I think my remark about the Daily Mail was somewhat cheap. Having paid for the privilege I read the Andrew Neil article and thought that it contained much to ponder on. I will try to cancel my Adobe pdf reader and seek one of the alternatives you hinted at. The pdf messages I?d received until the Andrew Neil one arrived had a blue tinge to them, the errant one from yourself was red tinged. Apparently the one I unwittingly paid for would allow me to edit received pdf messages (as if I couldn?t anyway). All best wishes, Garth From pat.heigham at amps.net Mon Feb 14 06:25:49 2022 From: pat.heigham at amps.net (patheigham) Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2022 12:25:49 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Remiss In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <620a4a4b.1c69fb81.12fe2.8d7e@mx.google.com> I have a ?free? pdf reader and print to .pdf with PDF Redirect v. 2 which works well, but spent this morning with a programme which merges several pdf?s to a single document. Pat Sent from Mail for Windows From: Garth Tucker via Tech1 Sent: 14 February 2022 12:10 To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk Subject: [Tech1] Remiss Hi Bernie, I think my remark about the Daily Mail was somewhat cheap. Having paid for the privilege I read the Andrew Neil article and thought that it contained much to ponder on. I will try to cancel my Adobe pdf reader and seek one of the alternatives you hinted at. The pdf messages I?d received until the Andrew Neil one arrived had a blue tinge to them, the errant one from yourself was red tinged. Apparently the one I unwittingly paid for would allow me to edit received pdf messages (as if I couldn?t anyway). All best wishes, Garth -- Tech1 mailing list Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From davesound at btinternet.com Mon Feb 14 06:47:17 2022 From: davesound at btinternet.com (Dave Plowman) Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2022 12:47:17 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Remiss In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The free version of Adobe PDF doesn't allow you to edit them. But then why would you want to edit most PDFs sent to you anyway? Most browsers will also allow you do read a PDF - Firefox and Edge do. You sometimes get a form that has to be filled in as a PDF. Libra Office is good for that and free too. I've a feeling PDFs can have a flag set to prevent them being edited? On 14/02/2022 12:10, Garth Tucker via Tech1 wrote: > Hi Bernie, > > I think my remark about the Daily Mail was somewhat cheap. Having paid for the privilege I read the Andrew Neil article and thought that it contained much to ponder on. > > I will try to cancel my Adobe pdf reader and seek one of the alternatives you hinted at. > > The pdf messages I?d received until the Andrew Neil one arrived had a blue tinge to them, the errant one from yourself was red tinged. Apparently the one I unwittingly paid for would allow me to edit received pdf messages (as if I couldn?t anyway). > > All best wishes, > > Garth From dnewbitt at fireflyuk.net Mon Feb 14 06:53:01 2022 From: dnewbitt at fireflyuk.net (David Newbitt) Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2022 12:53:01 -0000 Subject: [Tech1] Fwd: Interesting use of technology In-Reply-To: <002401d82192$9fc2df80$df489e80$@gmail.com> References: <8bc48a59-8f19-e08b-97f5-25cc27d14b48@gmail.com> <2AD6B9FF-0255-4BF5-8667-4D77BD9FD250@me.com><4f742870-b301-1df9-36ec-707fedb8e0f5@ntlworld.com> <002401d82192$9fc2df80$df489e80$@gmail.com> Message-ID: I think we should pay more than a little attention to David?s observation. Andrew Neil has an extremely powerful personality which shows itself in all his arguments whether in print or interview or commentary. So powerful it is all too easy to think he must be right when he is well capable of framing an argument to support his own interest. Chris Woolf?s counter argument seems to me not to have been addressed adequately so far in this thread and I personally find it persuasive. Dave Newbitt. From: David Denness via Tech1 Sent: Monday, February 14, 2022 11:04 AM To: bernard.newnham at ntlworld.com ; tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk Cc: 'Bernard Newnham' Subject: Re: [Tech1] Fwd: Interesting use of technology ?& absolutely nothing to do with his six figure investment in Cuadrilla, of course? David J Denness daviddenness at ohbytheway.co.uk 07836 371108 From: Tech1 On Behalf Of Bernard Newnham via Tech1 Sent: 14 February 2022 10:18 To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk Cc: Bernard Newnham Subject: Re: [Tech1] Fwd: Interesting use of technology Ummm...... Is it that you didn't have an alternate pdf reader already installed? There are lots of them. As for the Daily Mail - it was what Andrew Neil said that I thought mattered. I imagine that as a freelance he would have sold his rant to anyone who paid. I was just amazed to read words that I've been saying for many years written down. cheers B On 13/02/2022 22:28, Garth Tucker via Tech1 wrote: Bernie, I clicked on the pdf you sent re andrew neil and Adobe charged me ?21.14 for it. And as you may have guessed, I?m no lover of the Daily Mail. Garth Begin forwarded message: From: Bernard Newnham via Tech1 Subject: Re: [Tech1] Interesting use of technology Date: 13 February 2022 at 11:11:22 GMT To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk Reply-To: Bernard Newnham Sort of similar subject. Well, technology, anyway...... I've ripped this off the Daily Mail online website to get rid of all the crap. I know not everyone agrees, but I'm really pleased that someone who people actually listen to says the same as I have been for many years. I bet Andrew Neil got paid a fortune for writing the same words as me. Attached B On 13/02/2022 10:32, Alan Taylor via Tech1 wrote: https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/feb/13/satellite-technology-creates-virtual-grazing-areas-in-epping-forest The article explains how grazing cows have been fitted with GPS gadgets so that they can graze freely in parts of Epping Forest, but kept away from certain areas, such as roads and how the permitted areas can be refined on a smartphone before places become overgrazed. In essence, it?s a virtual electric fence which gives a warning sound as the prospect of a shock approaches. It?s a great idea which could be deployed in many other areas. 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There might be a case for trailing another show by some means, but devoting 15/16 of the frame to it is immensely disrespectful to all those involved in making the programme I had been watching. Of all organisations delivering content online, I would have liked to think that somebody in the BBC might treat closing credits with a tiny bit of respect. On my TV it was impossible to make out any of the names. On my best resolution computer screen they are readable with difficulty. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image0.png Type: image/png Size: 120709 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- Presumably the cretins doing this are the people who stand up rush out of the cinema as soon as the camera cranes up into the air and the music swells to a crescendo. Alan Taylor From gary_critcher at yahoo.com Wed Feb 16 08:49:53 2022 From: gary_critcher at yahoo.com (Gary Critcher) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2022 14:49:53 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Tech1] 'Peepie-Creepie' camera?? References: <1044806406.3545534.1645022993924.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1044806406.3545534.1645022993924@mail.yahoo.com> ? Hi all,I recently came across this item from a 1958 Autosport magazine.??I know it's ITN, but did anyone come across this? ? All the best,Gary C? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Screenshot_20220216-145940_Samsung Internet.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 904878 bytes Desc: not available URL: From alanaudio at me.com Wed Feb 16 09:31:06 2022 From: alanaudio at me.com (Alan Taylor) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2022 15:31:06 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] 'Peepie-Creepie' camera?? In-Reply-To: <1044806406.3545534.1645022993924@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1044806406.3545534.1645022993924@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <15C6E228-D5C1-4258-87E3-229E9AE1391E@me.com> I suspect that the idea didn?t catch on until somebody thought of relaying the images to a trackside receiver rather than a trackside transmitter as described in the article. In the mid 1950s, following the success of the original BBC OBs Roving Eye, there was a demand for a miniaturised portable radio camera, cabled to an assistant wearing a backpack with support electronics and a transmitter. Inspired by names such as ?Walkie-Talkie?, one proposed name for it was the ?Peepie Creepy?. Fortunately the name didn?t catch on - well not in the BBC anyway, but it seems to be a name used for a number of similar projects. Radio-Cam, or Radio Camera sounds more dignified to me. The same name had also been coined earlier for an American lightweight camera. I?ve never found much technical info about it, just a reference to it existing in 1952, it?s dimensions and that it used a vidicon. https://americanhistory.si.edu/collections/search/object/nmah_713217 Following a similar theme, in 1962, Ikegami launched the original Handy Lookie camera which used a 3? image orthicon. Many cameramen will remember using more recent Ikegami cameras also bearing the HL prefix. Alan Taylor > On 16 Feb 2022, at 14:50, Gary Critcher via Tech1 wrote: > > ? > Hi all, > I recently came across this item from a 1958 Autosport magazine. > I know it's ITN, but did anyone come across this? > > All the best, > Gary C > > -- > Tech1 mailing list > Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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In the mid 1950s, following the success of the original BBC OBs Roving Eye, there was a demand for a miniaturised portable radio camera, cabled to an assistant wearing a backpack with support electronics and a transmitter. Inspired by names such as ?Walkie-Talkie?, one proposed name for it was the ?Peepie Creepy?. Fortunately the name didn?t catch on - well not in the BBC anyway, but it seems to be a name used for a number of similar projects. Radio-Cam, or Radio Camera sounds more dignified to me. Alan Taylor -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: RAI Reasarch Visit 19xx 1.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 1075209 bytes Desc: not available URL: From mikej at bmanor.co.uk Wed Feb 16 09:43:47 2022 From: mikej at bmanor.co.uk (Mike Jordan) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2022 15:43:47 -0000 Subject: [Tech1] 'Peepie-Creepie' camera?? 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Best to all Albert From pat.heigham at amps.net Thu Feb 17 04:01:37 2022 From: pat.heigham at amps.net (patheigham) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2022 10:01:37 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Was he a twit....??? In-Reply-To: <496955C4-33F3-4E2F-856D-273085922496@btinternet.com> References: <496955C4-33F3-4E2F-856D-273085922496@btinternet.com> Message-ID: <620e1d02.1c69fb81.e142e.2e7d@mx.google.com> Most likely The Paris, but I did attend* a recording of the Goon Show at The Camden, many years ago. (* courtesy of producer Bobby Jaye, who was the brother of one of my Mum?s great friends). Pat Sent from Mail for Windows From: Albert Barber via Tech1 Sent: 17 February 2022 08:53 To: tech1 Subject: [Tech1] Was he a twit....??? Was this recorded in The Paris or The Theatre next to Charing Cross station? Best to all Albert -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Graeme Wall > On 17 Feb 2022, at 10:01, patheigham via Tech1 wrote: > > Most likely The Paris, but I did attend* a recording of the Goon Show at The Camden, many years ago. > (* courtesy of producer Bobby Jaye, who was the brother of one of my Mum?s great friends). > > Pat > > Sent from Mail for Windows > > From: Albert Barber via Tech1 > Sent: 17 February 2022 08:53 > To: tech1 > Subject: [Tech1] Was he a twit....??? > > > > Was this recorded in The Paris or The Theatre next to Charing Cross station? > > Best to all > Albert > > > > > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > www.avast.com > > > -- > Tech1 mailing list > Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk From pat.heigham at amps.net Thu Feb 17 16:58:32 2022 From: pat.heigham at amps.net (patheigham) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2022 22:58:32 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Call sheet Message-ID: <620ed319.1c69fb81.938b.7a03@mx.google.com> Could anyone furnish me with a blank call sheet format? 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Cheers, Dave From waresound at msn.com Fri Feb 18 03:11:55 2022 From: waresound at msn.com (Nick Ware) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2022 09:11:55 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Choir boys! Message-ID: As your resident expert in Gold on the subject of choirs and choirboys, I?m wondering what the missing missive was that Dave was replying to. And by the way Dave, just to put your mind at rest, nowadays there are kinder and less drastic means of delaying the onset of puberty, better known in Olympic circles as ?doping?! Cheers, Nick. Nick Ware - From my iPad mini 6 > On 18 Feb 2022, at 00:37, dave.mdv via Tech1 wrote: > ?Yes, I know, but it is their singing I am bringing to your attention! The files are too large for me to add to our newsgroup but if you 'Google' Cai Thomas and Aksel Ryykvin you can hear the most amazing boy performances, and the shame is that nature will have halted their continued beautiful sounds not long after their performances, the antidote doesn't bear thinking about!!! Cheers, Dave > > > -- > Tech1 mailing list > Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk From mikej at bmanor.co.uk Fri Feb 18 04:01:22 2022 From: mikej at bmanor.co.uk (Mike Jordan) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2022 10:01:22 -0000 Subject: [Tech1] Lets hear it for the chap who changes my batteries Message-ID: <49F357401AAE432180A3EDC8AB94AFA1@Gigabyte> This appeared in yesterdays Guardian in Adrian Chiles column. Might interest/amuse the sound people out there! Mike Jordan (who nowadays just has to mend ?Britny headsets?, old style radio mic Tx with bent contacts on the 2.5mm mic sockets, badly made BNC cables and mini-XLRs for a neighbour!) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Graeme Wall > On 18 Feb 2022, at 10:01, Mike Jordan via Tech1 wrote: > > This appeared in yesterdays Guardian in Adrian Chiles column. > Might interest/amuse the sound people out there! > > Mike Jordan > (who nowadays just has to mend ?Britny headsets?, old style radio mic Tx with bent contacts on the 2.5mm mic sockets, badly made BNC cables and mini-XLRs for a neighbour!) > -- > Tech1 mailing list > Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk From davesound at btinternet.com Fri Feb 18 04:06:55 2022 From: davesound at btinternet.com (Dave Plowman) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2022 10:06:55 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Lets hear it for the chap who changes my batteries In-Reply-To: <49F357401AAE432180A3EDC8AB94AFA1@Gigabyte> References: <49F357401AAE432180A3EDC8AB94AFA1@Gigabyte> Message-ID: <794a2692-01bf-68fd-e8c2-f95fc1d152ad@btinternet.com> Things must have changed. In my day, a twin battery Micron would do a couple of days - if rigged close to the flesh to keep it warm, in very cold weather. Are digital mics really so power hungry? On 18/02/2022 10:01, Mike Jordan via Tech1 wrote: > This appeared in yesterdays Guardian in Adrian Chiles column. > Might interest/amuse the sound people out there! > Mike Jordan > (who nowadays just has to mend ?Britny headsets?, old style radio mic > Tx with bent contacts on the 2.5mm mic sockets, badly made BNC cables > and mini-XLRs for a neighbour!) > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From relong at btinternet.com Fri Feb 18 04:59:15 2022 From: relong at btinternet.com (Roger Long) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2022 10:59:15 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Lets hear it for the chap who changes my batteries In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Changing batts every 30 minutes? Shurly shum mistake? Docs don?t need recordists any more and doesn?t it show Portillo in Cornwall in March on the coastal path? Some can do a fair job if the camera has 4 tracks and the director can manage a boom but most cannot Simon Reeves seems to manage but most of the camera guys I knew hated doing sound I think sound men come in on selected days or the drone op does it It?s all multi tasking PS what happens to the boom on the 360 camera see the shadow but never it ! 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URL: From bernie833 at gmail.com Fri Feb 18 05:31:57 2022 From: bernie833 at gmail.com (Bernard Newnham) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2022 11:31:57 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Lets hear it for the chap who changes my batteries In-Reply-To: References: <49F357401AAE432180A3EDC8AB94AFA1@Gigabyte> Message-ID: <39408be7-9474-c683-b453-e29de26be3cf@gmail.com> Just to show that I'm keeping up with the times too, my U3A group and I have just been planning a film we're going to make with a man from the Woking News and Mail.? It's going to be shot mostly on my phone for walking and talking shots. The phone will be mounted on my DJI Osmo 3 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xah7LpZpFY0 with separate sound from a Rode radio mic recorded on a Tascam DR-60D kindly given to me by one of this list.? It's going to be the first outing for the Tascam, thanks to Covid, so I - and the others - need to read the book again. 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URL: From graeme.wall at icloud.com Fri Feb 18 05:39:25 2022 From: graeme.wall at icloud.com (Graeme Wall) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2022 11:39:25 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Lets hear it for the chap who changes my batteries In-Reply-To: <39408be7-9474-c683-b453-e29de26be3cf@gmail.com> References: <49F357401AAE432180A3EDC8AB94AFA1@Gigabyte> <39408be7-9474-c683-b453-e29de26be3cf@gmail.com> Message-ID: <63618129-9F14-4673-AE8B-020812A1FDEF@icloud.com> Neat device, tryng to find a justification to get one! ? Graeme Wall > On 18 Feb 2022, at 11:31, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 wrote: > > Just to show that I'm keeping up with the times too, my U3A group and I have just been planning a film we're going to make with a man from the Woking News and Mail. It's going to be shot mostly on my phone for walking and talking shots. The phone will be mounted on my DJI Osmo 3 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xah7LpZpFY0 with separate sound from a Rode radio mic recorded on a Tascam DR-60D kindly given to me by one of this list. It's going to be the first outing for the Tascam, thanks to Covid, so I - and the others - need to read the book again. > > B > > > > On 18/02/2022 10:05, Graeme Wall via Tech1 wrote: >> As a cameraman (sic) it amuses, and depresses, me as well! >> ? >> Graeme Wall >> >> >> >>> On 18 Feb 2022, at 10:01, Mike Jordan via Tech1 >>> wrote: >>> >>> This appeared in yesterdays Guardian in Adrian Chiles column. >>> Might interest/amuse the sound people out there! >>> >>> Mike Jordan >>> (who nowadays just has to mend ?Britny headsets?, old style radio mic Tx with bent contacts on the 2.5mm mic sockets, badly made BNC cables and mini-XLRs for a neighbour!) >>> -- >>> Tech1 mailing list >>> >>> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk >>> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk >> > > -- > Tech1 mailing list > Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk From bernie833 at gmail.com Fri Feb 18 06:03:20 2022 From: bernie833 at gmail.com (Bernard Newnham) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2022 12:03:20 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] A bit breezy Message-ID: -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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B On 18/02/2022 11:39, Graeme Wall wrote: > Neat device, tryng to find a justification to get one! > ? > Graeme Wall > > >> On 18 Feb 2022, at 11:31, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 wrote: >> >> Just to show that I'm keeping up with the times too, my U3A group and I have just been planning a film we're going to make with a man from the Woking News and Mail. It's going to be shot mostly on my phone for walking and talking shots. The phone will be mounted on my DJI Osmo 3 -https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xah7LpZpFY0 with separate sound from a Rode radio mic recorded on a Tascam DR-60D kindly given to me by one of this list. It's going to be the first outing for the Tascam, thanks to Covid, so I - and the others - need to read the book again. >> >> B >> >> >> >> On 18/02/2022 10:05, Graeme Wall via Tech1 wrote: >>> As a cameraman (sic) it amuses, and depresses, me as well! >>> ? >>> Graeme Wall >>> >>> >>> >>>> On 18 Feb 2022, at 10:01, Mike Jordan via Tech1 >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> This appeared in yesterdays Guardian in Adrian Chiles column. >>>> Might interest/amuse the sound people out there! >>>> >>>> Mike Jordan >>>> (who nowadays just has to mend ?Britny headsets?, old style radio mic Tx with bent contacts on the 2.5mm mic sockets, badly made BNC cables and mini-XLRs for a neighbour!) >>>> -- >>>> Tech1 mailing list >>>> >>>> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk >>>> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk >> -- >> Tech1 mailing list >> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk >> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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A friend asked me to record his son (a chorister at Guildford), before his voice broke, and we achieved a good CD for the family archives. I learned a lot from you while on Music in Time ? we had some adventures, didn?t we? Pat Sent from Mail for Windows From: Nick Ware via Tech1 incorporating Sent: 18 February 2022 09:12 To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk Subject: Re: [Tech1] Choir boys! As your resident expert in Gold on the subject of choirs and choirboys, I?m wondering what the missing missive was that Dave was replying to. And by the way Dave, just to put your mind at rest, nowadays there are kinder and less drastic means of delaying the onset of puberty, better known in Olympic circles as ?doping?! Cheers, Nick. Nick Ware - From my iPad mini 6 -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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You draw round a face on the screen, and that person can't get away.?? I turned that mode off and did some stuff, and when I turned it back on again it picked out the same person. B On 18/02/2022 11:39, Graeme Wall wrote: Neat device, tryng to find a justification to get one! ? Graeme Wall On 18 Feb 2022, at 11:31, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 wrote: Just to show that I'm keeping up with the times too, my U3A group and I have just been planning a film we're going to make with a man from the Woking News and Mail. It's going to be shot mostly on my phone for walking and talking shots. The phone will be mounted on my DJI Osmo 3 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xah7LpZpFY0 with separate sound from a Rode radio mic recorded on a Tascam DR-60D kindly given to me by one of this list. It's going to be the first outing for the Tascam, thanks to Covid, so I - and the others - need to read the book again. 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From peter.fox at zero51.force9.co.uk Fri Feb 18 07:21:43 2022 From: peter.fox at zero51.force9.co.uk (Peter Fox) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2022 13:21:43 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] A bit breezy In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <33AE7196-29C2-46EE-A5E5-4468D216B918@zero51.force9.co.uk> Flight Radar showing a lot of planes chickening out and going round Peter Fox On 18 Feb 2022, at 12:03, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 wrote: ? -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Alan Taylor > On 18 Feb 2022, at 13:22, Peter Fox via Tech1 wrote: > ?Flight Radar showing a lot of planes chickening out and going round > > Peter Fox > > On 18 Feb 2022, at 12:03, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 wrote: > > ? > > > > -- > Tech1 mailing list > Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk > -- > Tech1 mailing list > Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk From peter.fox at zero51.force9.co.uk Fri Feb 18 07:56:37 2022 From: peter.fox at zero51.force9.co.uk (Peter Fox) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2022 13:56:37 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] A bit breezy In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <63FCCE28-56D1-4A65-A841-F2F9DA76107B@zero51.force9.co.uk> Yes, I am afraid I am, Its rather cringeworthy on many levels and then you get a minute or two of really fancy flying Peter Fox On 18 Feb 2022, at 13:46, Nick Ware via Tech1 wrote: ? I presume some of you folk are watching Big Jet TV live on Youtube? The guy?s got 220,274 viewers currently, live streaming since 10AM Eat you hearts out, some of the crap broadcast TV channels! Search: Storm Eunice at London Heathrow Airport Sound probs at the moment. He just changed his mic and it?s worse than the previous one. Cheers, N. Nick Ware - From my iPad mini 6 > On 18 Feb 2022, at 13:22, Peter Fox via Tech1 wrote: > > ? > Flight Radar showing a lot of planes chickening out and going round > > Peter Fox > > On 18 Feb 2022, at 12:03, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 wrote: > > ? > > > > -- > Tech1 mailing list > Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk > -- > Tech1 mailing list > Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk -- Tech1 mailing list Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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He sounded really worried on the radio.? And he wasn't a passenger.?? I was once in a Thai Air A380 that went around at Heathrow because the runway was still occupied. All that way from Bangkok, then a big tour of Surrey. Don't know how much fuel was still available, but worse for this fellow. ATC was telling newcomers to the frequency what the weather was and asking if they wanted to try an approach. B -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: Re: [Tech1] A bit breezy Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2022 13:28:45 +0000 From: Peter Fox To: Bernard Newnham Apparently 100,000 sadists (like me ) are watching their efforts Peter Fox On 18 Feb 2022, at 13:22, Peter Fox wrote: ?Flight Radar showing a lot of planes chickening out and going round Peter Fox On 18 Feb 2022, at 12:03, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 wrote: ? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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The list was endless, and I worry that esoteric members are credited. No wonder it?s so expensive to make now. The two that I worked on had a much smaller crew. I was pleased that Simon Hayes got an AMPS suffix, though. (P.S. I actually appear in The Spy Who Loved Me! Background action, chasing a girl around the beach. Actually the focus puller?s wife! On one take I slipped, sending up a shower of sand. My HoD enquired of me: ?How long have you been the beach bully, Pat??) Attached is a story about that film. Best Pat Sent from Mail for Windows -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Spy Who Loved Me.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 24694 bytes Desc: not available URL: From waresound at msn.com Sun Feb 20 07:54:01 2022 From: waresound at msn.com (Nick Ware) Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2022 13:54:01 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] No Time To Die In-Reply-To: <6212411e.1c69fb81.d0c18.0ae0@mx.google.com> References: <6212411e.1c69fb81.d0c18.0ae0@mx.google.com> Message-ID: I actually had lines to say in the one and only film that I appeared in. I think Pat knows which one that was, and what the - er - subject matter was! Imagine, taking a relatively new girlfriend to the cinema to see that film, not telling her beforehand that I was in it! Well, we?re still very much together 40 years later, so the shock can?t have been that bad. N. Nick Ware - From my iPad mini 6 On 20 Feb 2022, at 13:25, patheigham via Tech1 wrote: ? I think I was a bit out of order with my comments about the latest Bond. When I ran the Bluray, I must have fallen asleep, missed the early part and woke up when the wrecking of the 4x4?x occurred in the Norwegian woods. So having watched it last night, it?s pretty good. However, I paused the end credits, in case there were names I recognised, but none from the earlier films. The list was endless, and I worry that esoteric members are credited. No wonder it?s so expensive to make now. The two that I worked on had a much smaller crew. I was pleased that Simon Hayes got an AMPS suffix, though. (P.S. I actually appear in The Spy Who Loved Me! Background action, chasing a girl around the beach. Actually the focus puller?s wife! On one take I slipped, sending up a shower of sand. My HoD enquired of me: ?How long have you been the beach bully, Pat??) Attached is a story about that film. Best Pat Sent from Mail for Windows ________________________________ [Avast logo] This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.com -- Tech1 mailing list Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dave at davesound.co.uk Sun Feb 20 09:01:37 2022 From: dave at davesound.co.uk (Dave Plowman) Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2022 15:01:37 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] No Time To Die In-Reply-To: References: <6212411e.1c69fb81.d0c18.0ae0@mx.google.com> Message-ID: I've not appeared in a drama - but a dog I had did. Had arranged to look after a pal's border collie - called Shep. A rescue dog. When they went to a wedding over a weekend. Then my schedule changed at short notice - we were shooting exteriors on a Sunday, on The Bill. Checked with my crew, and they were happy if he came with us in the camera van. The first location was a street scene, and he came with us while we recce'd it.? Director, the lovely Jimmy Cellan Jones saw it and asked if it would like to appear. Which it did. Found a walk-on who liked dogs, and it appeared in the back of the master, sitting patiently on the pavement until the road was clear, then crossing trotting nicely behind its 'master'. I hope that walk-on got a special skills fee. I didn't for the dog. On the same block, our LD stood in for an actor on a pickup shot. He was about the same size and build, and we only need a wide-shot of him leaving. And, of course JCJ often appeared in his shows too. On 20/02/2022 13:54, Nick Ware via Tech1 wrote: > I actually had lines to say in the one and only film that I appeared > in. I think Pat knows which one that was, and what the - er - subject > matter was! > Imagine, taking a relatively new girlfriend to the cinema to see that > film, not telling her beforehand that I was in it! > Well, we?re still very much together 40 years later, so the shock > can?t have been that bad. > N. > Nick Ware - From my iPad mini 6 > >> On 20 Feb 2022, at 13:25, patheigham via Tech1 >> wrote: >> >> ? >> >> I think I was a bit out of order with my comments about the latest Bond. >> >> When I ran the Bluray, I must have fallen asleep, missed the early >> part and woke up when the wrecking of the 4x4?x occurred in the >> Norwegian woods. So having watched it last night, it?s pretty good. >> >> However, I paused the end credits, in case there were names I >> recognised, but none from the earlier films. The list was endless, >> and I worry that esoteric members are credited. No wonder it?s so >> expensive to make now. The two that I worked on had a much smaller crew. >> >> I was pleased that Simon Hayes got an AMPS suffix, though. >> >> (P.S. I actually appear in The Spy Who Loved Me! Background action, >> chasing a girl around the beach. Actually the focus puller?s wife! >> >> On one take I slipped, sending up a shower of sand. My HoD enquired >> of me: ?How long have you been the beach bully, Pat??) >> >> Attached is a story about that film. >> >> Best >> >> Pat >> >> Sent from Mail for >> Windows >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Avast logo >> >> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >> www.avast.com >> >> >> >> -- >> Tech1 mailing list >> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk >> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bernie833 at gmail.com Sun Feb 20 09:13:39 2022 From: bernie833 at gmail.com (Bernard Newnham) Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2022 15:13:39 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] No Time To Die In-Reply-To: References: <6212411e.1c69fb81.d0c18.0ae0@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <49b5b33e-aad2-e891-1fb6-e3e75ffe3380@gmail.com> When I was on Breakfast Time, every so often I'd need a "person doing something" shot. You'd wait....... So I gave up and did them myself. No one ever said anything. B On 20/02/2022 15:01, Dave Plowman via Tech1 wrote: > > I've not appeared in a drama - but a dog I had did. Had arranged to > look after a pal's border collie - called Shep. A rescue dog. When > they went to a wedding over a weekend. Then my schedule changed at > short notice - we were shooting exteriors on a Sunday, on The Bill. > Checked with my crew, and they were happy if he came with us in the > camera van. The first location was a street scene, and he came with us > while we recce'd it. Director, the lovely Jimmy Cellan Jones saw it > and asked if it would like to appear. Which it did. Found a walk-on > who liked dogs, and it appeared in the back of the master, sitting > patiently on the pavement until the road was clear, then crossing > trotting nicely behind its 'master'. I hope that walk-on got a special > skills fee. I didn't for the dog. On the same block, our LD stood in > for an actor on a pickup shot. He was about the same size and build, > and we only need a wide-shot of him leaving. And, of course JCJ often > appeared in his shows too. > > On 20/02/2022 13:54, Nick Ware via Tech1 wrote: >> I actually had lines to say in the one and only film that I appeared >> in. I think Pat knows which one that was, and what the - er - subject >> matter was! >> Imagine, taking a relatively new girlfriend to the cinema to see that >> film, not telling her beforehand that I was in it! >> Well, we?re still very much together 40 years later, so the shock >> can?t have been that bad. >> N. >> Nick Ware - From my iPad mini 6 >> >>> On 20 Feb 2022, at 13:25, patheigham via Tech1 >>> wrote: >>> >>> ? >>> >>> I think I was a bit out of order with my comments about the latest Bond. >>> >>> When I ran the Bluray, I must have fallen asleep, missed the early >>> part and woke up when the wrecking of the 4x4?x occurred in the >>> Norwegian woods. So having watched it last night, it?s pretty good. >>> >>> However, I paused the end credits, in case there were names I >>> recognised, but none from the earlier films. The list was endless, >>> and I worry that esoteric members are credited. No wonder it?s so >>> expensive to make now. The two that I worked on had a much smaller crew. >>> >>> I was pleased that Simon Hayes got an AMPS suffix, though. >>> >>> (P.S. I actually appear in The Spy Who Loved Me! Background action, >>> chasing a girl around the beach. Actually the focus puller?s wife! >>> >>> On one take I slipped, sending up a shower of sand. My HoD enquired >>> of me: ?How long have you been the beach bully, Pat??) >>> >>> Attached is a story about that film. >>> >>> Best >>> >>> Pat >>> >>> Sent from Mail for >>> Windows >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> Avast logo >>> >>> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >>> www.avast.com >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Tech1 mailing list >>> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk >>> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I think Pat knows which one that was, and what the - er - subject > matter was! > Imagine, taking a relatively new girlfriend to the cinema to see that > film, not telling her beforehand that I was in it! > Well, we?re still very much together 40 years later, so the shock > can?t have been that bad. > N. > Nick Ware - From my iPad mini 6 > >> On 20 Feb 2022, at 13:25, patheigham via Tech1 >> wrote: >> >> ? >> >> I think I was a bit out of order with my comments about the latest Bond. >> >> When I ran the Bluray, I must have fallen asleep, missed the early >> part and woke up when the wrecking of the 4x4?x occurred in the >> Norwegian woods. So having watched it last night, it?s pretty good. >> >> However, I paused the end credits, in case there were names I >> recognised, but none from the earlier films. The list was endless, >> and I worry that esoteric members are credited. No wonder it?s so >> expensive to make now. The two that I worked on had a much smaller crew. >> >> I was pleased that Simon Hayes got an AMPS suffix, though. >> >> (P.S. I actually appear in The Spy Who Loved Me! Background action, >> chasing a girl around the beach. Actually the focus puller?s wife! >> >> On one take I slipped, sending up a shower of sand. My HoD enquired >> of me: ?How long have you been the beach bully, Pat??) >> >> Attached is a story about that film. >> >> Best >> >> Pat >> >> Sent from Mail for >> Windows >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Avast logo >> >> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >> www.avast.com >> >> >> >> -- >> Tech1 mailing list >> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk >> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From barrybonner119 at btinternet.com Sun Feb 20 09:32:11 2022 From: barrybonner119 at btinternet.com (Barry Bonner) Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2022 15:32:11 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] No Time To Die In-Reply-To: <49b5b33e-aad2-e891-1fb6-e3e75ffe3380@gmail.com> References: <6212411e.1c69fb81.d0c18.0ae0@mx.google.com> <49b5b33e-aad2-e891-1fb6-e3e75ffe3380@gmail.com> Message-ID: <5F7D314E-D653-46A0-892B-E884374366B7@btinternet.com> How did you qualify for that then? ? Barry. On 20 Feb 2022, at 15:13, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 wrote: > When I was on Breakfast Time, every so often I'd need a "person doing something" shot. You'd wait....... > > So I gave up and did them myself. No one ever said anything. > > B > > > > On 20/02/2022 15:01, Dave Plowman via Tech1 wrote: >> I've not appeared in a drama - but a dog I had did. Had arranged to look after a pal's border collie - called Shep. A rescue dog. When they went to a wedding over a weekend. Then my schedule changed at short notice - we were shooting exteriors on a Sunday, on The Bill. Checked with my crew, and they were happy if he came with us in the camera van. The first location was a street scene, and he came with us while we recce'd it. Director, the lovely Jimmy Cellan Jones saw it and asked if it would like to appear. Which it did. Found a walk-on who liked dogs, and it appeared in the back of the master, sitting patiently on the pavement until the road was clear, then crossing trotting nicely behind its 'master'. I hope that walk-on got a special skills fee. I didn't for the dog. On the same block, our LD stood in for an actor on a pickup shot. He was about the same size and build, and we only need a wide-shot of him leaving. And, of course JCJ often appeared in his shows too. >> >> On 20/02/2022 13:54, Nick Ware via Tech1 wrote: >>> I actually had lines to say in the one and only film that I appeared in. I think Pat knows which one that was, and what the - er - subject matter was! >>> Imagine, taking a relatively new girlfriend to the cinema to see that film, not telling her beforehand that I was in it! >>> Well, we?re still very much together 40 years later, so the shock can?t have been that bad. >>> N. >>> Nick Ware - From my iPad mini 6 >>> >>>> On 20 Feb 2022, at 13:25, patheigham via Tech1 wrote: >>>> >>>> ? >>>> I think I was a bit out of order with my comments about the latest Bond. >>>> When I ran the Bluray, I must have fallen asleep, missed the early part and woke up when the wrecking of the 4x4?x occurred in the Norwegian woods. So having watched it last night, it?s pretty good. >>>> However, I paused the end credits, in case there were names I recognised, but none from the earlier films. The list was endless, and I worry that esoteric members are credited. No wonder it?s so expensive to make now. The two that I worked on had a much smaller crew. >>>> I was pleased that Simon Hayes got an AMPS suffix, though. >>>> (P.S. I actually appear in The Spy Who Loved Me! Background action, chasing a girl around the beach. Actually the focus puller?s wife! >>>> On one take I slipped, sending up a shower of sand. My HoD enquired of me: ?How long have you been the beach bully, Pat??) >>>> Attached is a story about that film. >>>> Best >>>> Pat >>>> >>>> >>>> Sent from Mail for Windows >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >>>> www.avast.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Tech1 mailing list >>>> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk >>>> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk >>> >> > > -- > Tech1 mailing list > Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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No one ever said anything. >> >> B >> >> >> >> On 20/02/2022 15:01, Dave Plowman via Tech1 wrote: >>> >>> I've not appeared in a drama - but a dog I had did. Had arranged to >>> look after a pal's border collie - called Shep. A rescue dog. When >>> they went to a wedding over a weekend. Then my schedule changed at >>> short notice - we were shooting exteriors on a Sunday, on The Bill. >>> Checked with my crew, and they were happy if he came with us in the >>> camera van. The first location was a street scene, and he came with >>> us while we recce'd it. Director, the lovely Jimmy Cellan Jones saw >>> it and asked if it would like to appear. Which it did. Found a >>> walk-on who liked dogs, and it appeared in the back of the master, >>> sitting patiently on the pavement until the road was clear, then >>> crossing trotting nicely behind its 'master'. I hope that walk-on >>> got a special skills fee. I didn't for the dog. On the same block, >>> our LD stood in for an actor on a pickup shot. He was about the same >>> size and build, and we only need a wide-shot of him leaving. And, of >>> course JCJ often appeared in his shows too. >>> >>> On 20/02/2022 13:54, Nick Ware via Tech1 wrote: >>>> I actually had lines to say in the one and only film that I >>>> appeared in. I think Pat knows which one that was, and what the - >>>> er - subject matter was! >>>> Imagine, taking a relatively new girlfriend to the cinema to see >>>> that film, not telling her beforehand that I was in it! >>>> Well, we?re still very much together 40 years later, so the shock >>>> can?t have been that bad. >>>> N. >>>> Nick Ware - From my iPad mini 6 >>>> >>>>> On 20 Feb 2022, at 13:25, patheigham via >>>>> Tech1wrote: >>>>> >>>>> ? >>>>> I think I was a bit out of order with my comments about the latest >>>>> Bond. >>>>> When I ran the Bluray, I must have fallen asleep, missed the early >>>>> part and woke up when the wrecking of the 4x4?x occurred in the >>>>> Norwegian woods. So having watched it last night, it?s pretty good. >>>>> However, I paused the end credits, in case there were names I >>>>> recognised, but none from the earlier films. The list was endless, >>>>> and I worry that esoteric members are credited. No wonder it?s so >>>>> expensive to make now. The two that I worked on had a much smaller >>>>> crew. >>>>> I was pleased that Simon Hayes got an AMPS suffix, though. >>>>> (P.S. I actually appear in The Spy Who Loved Me! Background >>>>> action, chasing a girl around the beach. Actually the focus >>>>> puller?s wife! >>>>> On one take I slipped, sending up a shower of sand. My HoD >>>>> enquired of me: ?How long have you been the beach bully, Pat??) >>>>> Attached is a story about that film. >>>>> Best >>>>> Pat >>>>> Sent fromMail for >>>>> Windows >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>> Avast logo >>>>> >>>>> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >>>>> www.avast.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Tech1 mailing list >>>>> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk >>>>> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk >>>> >>> >> >> -- >> Tech1 mailing list >> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk >> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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TeaTeaFN - Tony Sent with [ProtonMail](https://protonmail.com/) Secure Email. ------- Original Message ------- On Sunday, February 20th, 2022 at 16:45, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 wrote: > I said "Turnover" "Action", then walked through a door, ordered a Chinese takeaway, open a bottle of champagne, whatever. > > B > > On 20/02/2022 15:32, Barry Bonner wrote: > >> How did you qualify for that then? ? >> Barry. >> >> On 20 Feb 2022, at 15:13, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 wrote: >> >>> When I was on Breakfast Time, every so often I'd need a "person doing something" shot. You'd wait....... >>> >>> So I gave up and did them myself. No one ever said anything. >>> >>> B >>> >>> On 20/02/2022 15:01, Dave Plowman via Tech1 wrote: >>> >>>> I've not appeared in a drama - but a dog I had did. Had arranged to look after a pal's border collie - called Shep. A rescue dog. When they went to a wedding over a weekend. Then my schedule changed at short notice - we were shooting exteriors on a Sunday, on The Bill. Checked with my crew, and they were happy if he came with us in the camera van. The first location was a street scene, and he came with us while we recce'd it. Director, the lovely Jimmy Cellan Jones saw it and asked if it would like to appear. Which it did. Found a walk-on who liked dogs, and it appeared in the back of the master, sitting patiently on the pavement until the road was clear, then crossing trotting nicely behind its 'master'. I hope that walk-on got a special skills fee. I didn't for the dog. On the same block, our LD stood in for an actor on a pickup shot. He was about the same size and build, and we only need a wide-shot of him leaving. And, of course JCJ often appeared in his shows too. >>>> >>>> On 20/02/2022 13:54, Nick Ware via Tech1 wrote: >>>> >>>>> I actually had lines to say in the one and only film that I appeared in. I think Pat knows which one that was, and what the - er - subject matter was! >>>>> Imagine, taking a relatively new girlfriend to the cinema to see that film, not telling her beforehand that I was in it! >>>>> Well, we?re still very much together 40 years later, so the shock can?t have been that bad. >>>>> N. >>>>> Nick Ware - From my iPad mini 6 >>>>> >>>>>> On 20 Feb 2022, at 13:25, patheigham via Tech1[](mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk)wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> ? >>>>>> I think I was a bit out of order with my comments about the latest Bond. >>>>>> When I ran the Bluray, I must have fallen asleep, missed the early part and woke up when the wrecking of the 4x4?x occurred in the Norwegian woods. So having watched it last night, it?s pretty good. >>>>>> However, I paused the end credits, in case there were names I recognised, but none from the earlier films. The list was endless, and I worry that esoteric members are credited. No wonder it?s so expensive to make now. The two that I worked on had a much smaller crew. >>>>>> I was pleased that Simon Hayes got an AMPS suffix, though. >>>>>> (P.S. I actually appear in The Spy Who Loved Me! Background action, chasing a girl around the beach. Actually the focus puller?s wife! >>>>>> On one take I slipped, sending up a shower of sand. 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During the 1980s, we had with Sypher ( which became Sypher 1 ), followed by Sypher 2 and subsequently Syphers 3&4. We also had prep rooms and my diary mentions a place called Limited Sypher. Am I right in thinking that the prep rooms contained multitrack recorders and a synchroniser? Obviously they had ?? tape machines, grams and a U-Matic. Could we track-lay in the prep rooms? What about Limited Sypher? I remember the name, but can?t recall quite where it was, or what facilities it offered. Alan Taylor From dave.mdv at btinternet.com Fri Feb 25 06:39:06 2022 From: dave.mdv at btinternet.com (dave.mdv) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2022 12:39:06 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Newspaper article Message-ID: <46b19662-b8ae-b645-fbdb-870bac220e28@btinternet.com> In today's Daily Mirror there is a big article about newsreader, Jan Leeming, and her five marriages, the first of which was to a famous Sound Supervisor at TVC! 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During the 1980s, we had with Sypher ( which became Sypher 1 ), followed by Sypher 2 and subsequently Syphers 3&4. We also had prep rooms and my diary mentions a place called Limited Sypher. Am I right in thinking that the prep rooms contained multitrack recorders and a synchroniser? Obviously they had ?? tape machines, grams and a U-Matic. Could we track-lay in the prep rooms? What about Limited Sypher? I remember the name, but can?t recall quite where it was, or what facilities it offered. Alan Taylor -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pat.heigham at amps.net Fri Feb 25 06:49:52 2022 From: pat.heigham at amps.net (patheigham) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2022 12:49:52 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Newspaper article In-Reply-To: <46b19662-b8ae-b645-fbdb-870bac220e28@btinternet.com> References: <46b19662-b8ae-b645-fbdb-870bac220e28@btinternet.com> Message-ID: <6218d06f.1c69fb81.fe437.8cbe@mx.google.com> I?d almost forgotten John Staple (or was it Staples, with an ?s??). He was an institution, and I enjoyed working with him. I have a memory of him at the desk in Riverside, saying: ?Dear God! I need a pee! Oh, think something sexy ? Ah, that?s better!? I believe that he was killed in a light plane accident in South Africa, but that was thought to be a dubious terrorist act? Pat Sent from Mail for Windows From: dave.mdv via Tech1 Sent: 25 February 2022 12:39 To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk Subject: [Tech1] Newspaper article In today's Daily Mirror there is a big article about newsreader, Jan Leeming, and her five marriages, the first of which was to a famous Sound Supervisor at TVC! (photo attached) Cheers, Dave. -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dave.mdv at btinternet.com Fri Feb 25 07:32:12 2022 From: dave.mdv at btinternet.com (dave.mdv) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2022 13:32:12 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] John Staple(s) In-Reply-To: <6218d06f.1c69fb81.fe437.8cbe@mx.google.com> References: <46b19662-b8ae-b645-fbdb-870bac220e28@btinternet.com> <6218d06f.1c69fb81.fe437.8cbe@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Yes, I thought it had an 's' on the end but the DM didn't. John took myself and my No.2 (Wilf, now Wendy Rath) to Biggin Hill for a? flight but luckily it rained all afternoon so we waited in the bar and then came home, much safer - although John's driving was as erratic as he was! I think he married a Rhodesian lady and went to live over there at a time when everybody else was leaving due to the politics at the time. There were lots of rumours about his death including smuggling, power lines and so on. Many more stories including mixing a drama with his belt undone (for comfort) and jumping up to answer the wall phone in front of the production area glass window, guess what happened! Cheers, Dave On 25/02/2022 12:49, patheigham wrote: > > I?d almost forgotten John Staple (or was it Staples, with an ?s??). > > He was an institution, and I enjoyed working with him. > > I have a memory of him at the desk in Riverside, saying: > > ?Dear God! I need a pee! Oh, think something sexy ? Ah, that?s better!? > > I believe that he was killed in a light plane accident in South > Africa, but that was thought to be a dubious terrorist act? > > Pat > > Sent from Mail for > Windows > > *From: *dave.mdv via Tech1 > *Sent: *25 February 2022 12:39 > *To: *tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > *Subject: *[Tech1] Newspaper article > > In today's Daily Mirror there is a big article about newsreader, Jan > > Leeming, and her five marriages, the first of which was to a famous > > Sound Supervisor at TVC! (photo attached) Cheers, Dave. > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Avast logo > > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > www.avast.com > > > <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dave at davesound.co.uk Fri Feb 25 07:37:27 2022 From: dave at davesound.co.uk (Dave Plowman) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2022 13:37:27 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] John Staple(s) In-Reply-To: References: <46b19662-b8ae-b645-fbdb-870bac220e28@btinternet.com> <6218d06f.1c69fb81.fe437.8cbe@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <2ac55894-d859-4108-50f1-8132a281dd25@davesound.co.uk> I've oft wondered if he and Staggers Wilson vied to be the biggest 'character' of the time? On 25/02/2022 13:32, dave.mdv via Tech1 wrote: > > Yes, I thought it had an 's' on the end but the DM didn't. John took > myself and my No.2 (Wilf, now Wendy Rath) to Biggin Hill for a? flight > but luckily it rained all afternoon so we waited in the bar and then > came home, much safer - although John's driving was as erratic as he > was! I think he married a Rhodesian lady and went to live over there > at a time when everybody else was leaving due to the politics at the > time. There were lots of rumours about his death including smuggling, > power lines and so on. Many more stories including mixing a drama with > his belt undone (for comfort) and jumping up to answer the wall phone > in front of the production area glass window, guess what happened! > Cheers, Dave > > On 25/02/2022 12:49, patheigham wrote: >> >> I?d almost forgotten John Staple (or was it Staples, with an ?s??). >> >> He was an institution, and I enjoyed working with him. >> >> I have a memory of him at the desk in Riverside, saying: >> >> ?Dear God! I need a pee! Oh, think something sexy ? Ah, that?s better!? >> >> I believe that he was killed in a light plane accident in South >> Africa, but that was thought to be a dubious terrorist act? >> >> Pat >> >> Sent from Mail for >> Windows >> >> *From: *dave.mdv via Tech1 >> *Sent: *25 February 2022 12:39 >> *To: *tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk >> *Subject: *[Tech1] Newspaper article >> >> In today's Daily Mirror there is a big article about newsreader, Jan >> >> Leeming, and her five marriages, the first of which was to a famous >> >> Sound Supervisor at TVC! (photo attached) Cheers, Dave. >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Avast logo >> >> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >> www.avast.com >> >> >> <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I think he married a Rhodesian lady and went to live over there at a time when everybody else was leaving due to the politics at the time. There were lots of rumours about his death including smuggling, power lines and so on. Many more stories including mixing a drama with his belt undone (for comfort) and jumping up to answer the wall phone in front of the production area glass window, guess what happened! Cheers, Dave > >> On 25/02/2022 12:49, patheigham wrote: >> I?d almost forgotten John Staple (or was it Staples, with an ?s??). >> He was an institution, and I enjoyed working with him. >> I have a memory of him at the desk in Riverside, saying: >> ?Dear God! I need a pee! Oh, think something sexy ? Ah, that?s better!? >> >> I believe that he was killed in a light plane accident in South Africa, but that was thought to be a dubious terrorist act? >> Pat >> >> Sent from Mail for Windows >> >> From: dave.mdv via Tech1 >> Sent: 25 February 2022 12:39 >> To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk >> Subject: [Tech1] Newspaper article >> >> In today's Daily Mirror there is a big article about newsreader, Jan >> Leeming, and her five marriages, the first of which was to a famous >> Sound Supervisor at TVC! (photo attached) Cheers, Dave. >> >> >> >> >> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >> www.avast.com >> >> > -- > Tech1 mailing list > Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dnewbitt at fireflyuk.net Fri Feb 25 14:21:10 2022 From: dnewbitt at fireflyuk.net (David Newbitt) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2022 20:21:10 -0000 Subject: [Tech1] John Staple(s) In-Reply-To: References: <46b19662-b8ae-b645-fbdb-870bac220e28@btinternet.com><6218d06f.1c69fb81.fe437.8cbe@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <6E8C2AF9CD634B24BA8E9892BF9E39BE@DESKTOP6GGCRV1> >From a slightly different start point we?ve aired various recollections of John before (Aug 2020). As I mentioned in that thread, I knew John well and my first wife and I spent many entertaining times with him and his second wife Ruth (Rhodesian as correctly remembered Dave). I and others shared various anecdotes which I won?t bore you all with a second time, but here?s a recollection I probably didn?t mention at the time. John and Ruth lived in Claygate, following John?s spell at the Grade 1 listed Trinity Green Almshouses on Mile End Road, Whitechapel. How on earth as a relatively young man John worked that one is beyond me. Not too many folk get to live in property designed by Sir Christopher Wren but, typical of John, he managed it. I remember when I first went there feeling much as one feels entering an awe inspiring church. John however exercised his Quad electrostatics in uninhibited fashion and with ease fended off dissenting neighbours! But back to Claygate where John?s requirement for worldly goods was usually met from nearby Kingston, particularly Bentalls. On one pilgrimage he helped himself to a rigid lockable brief case and unconcernedly waltzed out with it sans anything vulgar like payment. Arriving home he took the case from the boot and put it on the drive then lost the plot somewhere, got back in the car and reversed over it. He was so incensed at his screw-up that he headed straight back to Bentalls for a re-take.. This time he took two for good measure but his luck ran out as he was accosted as he was exiting the premises. When his court case came up he defended himself using the absent-minded professor ploy. He, poor innocent abroad, was so confused and disorientated by this crazed world he found himself living in that he somehow, without any intention of shoplifting, made his dazed way to the exit and was horrified when the security man drew his attention to the oversight. He got away with it! For all the affection many of us had for the incorrigible old eccentric, he was impossible to live with. Poor Jan found that out fairly quickly and understandably sought solace elsewhere. John responded with a surveillance exercise involving stake outs at night in parked cars with ?independent? potential witnesses, one of whom (according to John) was the now sadly missed Hugh Barker. His second wife Ruth, a really lovely person, did her level best to make a success of the relationship but inevitably she eventually concluded it was impossible and decided to separate and return to Rhodesia. Amazingly John announced he would give up the BBC, the UK and his entire lifestyle and join her. Using his private pilots license he inveigled his way into a job training pilots for the Rhodesian authorities and he did end his days by crashing on an exercise. Ruth wrote to us after his demise advising tragically that his misjudgement also took the life of the young woman in the aircraft with him. There is every reason to believe that John was, much in the manner of his road behaviour, putting on a show to scare the poor lass witless by flying under overhead power cables. His devil-may-care got the better of his ability. Ruth had a brother and a younger sister who both came to the UK and visited us. They were as delightful as Ruth but when my first marriage ended I lost touch. Definitely no ?s? on the end of Staple. Dave Newbitt. From: dave.mdv via Tech1 Sent: Friday, February 25, 2022 1:32 PM To: patheigham ; tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk Subject: Re: [Tech1] John Staple(s) Yes, I thought it had an 's' on the end but the DM didn't. John took myself and my No.2 (Wilf, now Wendy Rath) to Biggin Hill for a flight but luckily it rained all afternoon so we waited in the bar and then came home, much safer - although John's driving was as erratic as he was! I think he married a Rhodesian lady and went to live over there at a time when everybody else was leaving due to the politics at the time. There were lots of rumours about his death including smuggling, power lines and so on. Many more stories including mixing a drama with his belt undone (for comfort) and jumping up to answer the wall phone in front of the production area glass window, guess what happened! Cheers, Dave On 25/02/2022 12:49, patheigham wrote: I?d almost forgotten John Staple (or was it Staples, with an ?s??). He was an institution, and I enjoyed working with him. I have a memory of him at the desk in Riverside, saying: ?Dear God! I need a pee! Oh, think something sexy ? Ah, that?s better!? I believe that he was killed in a light plane accident in South Africa, but that was thought to be a dubious terrorist act? Pat Sent from Mail for Windows From: dave.mdv via Tech1 Sent: 25 February 2022 12:39 To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk Subject: [Tech1] Newspaper article In today's Daily Mirror there is a big article about newsreader, Jan Leeming, and her five marriages, the first of which was to a famous Sound Supervisor at TVC! 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He lived close to me and Grahame Haines in Claygate and when I visited his house he showed me a large cupboard full of world-band radios etc.! At that time, I had bought a beautiful Tandberg 26" colour TV and John managed to rent one from Granada, I think. Anyway, while he was adjusting the convergence (as you did with a CRT set!) it fell over and snapped the neck off the tube! I would love to have been a fly on the wall when he talked his way out of that one! Cheers, Dave. On 25/02/2022 20:21, David Newbitt wrote: > From a slightly different start point we?ve aired various > recollections of John before (Aug 2020). As I mentioned in that > thread, I knew John well and my first wife and I spent many > entertaining times with him and his second wife Ruth (Rhodesian as > correctly remembered Dave). I and others shared various anecdotes > which I won?t bore you all with a second time, but here?s a > recollection I probably didn?t mention at the time. > John and Ruth lived in Claygate, following John?s spell at the Grade 1 > listed Trinity Green Almshouses on Mile End Road, Whitechapel. How on > earth as a relatively young man John worked that one is beyond me. Not > too many folk get to live in property designed by Sir Christopher Wren > but, typical of John, he managed it. I remember when I first went > there feeling much as one feels entering an awe inspiring church. > trinity green > John however exercised his Quad electrostatics in uninhibited fashion > and with ease fended off dissenting neighbours! But back to Claygate > where John?s requirement for worldly goods was usually met from nearby > Kingston, particularly Bentalls. On one pilgrimage he helped himself > to a rigid lockable brief case and unconcernedly waltzed out with it > /sans /anything vulgar like payment. Arriving home he took the case > from the boot and put it on the drive then lost the plot somewhere, > got back in the car and reversed over it. He was so incensed at his > screw-up that he headed straight back to Bentalls for a re-take.. This > time he took two for good measure but his luck ran out as he was > accosted as he was exiting the premises. When his court case came up > he defended himself using the absent-minded professor ploy. He, poor > innocent abroad, was so confused and disorientated by this crazed > world he found himself living in that he somehow, without any > intention of shoplifting, made his dazed way to the exit and was > horrified when the security man drew his attention to the oversight. > He got away with it! > For all the affection many of us had for the incorrigible old > eccentric, he was impossible to live with. Poor Jan found that out > fairly quickly and understandably sought solace elsewhere. John > responded with a surveillance exercise involving stake outs at night > in parked cars with ?independent? potential witnesses, one of whom > (according to John) was the now sadly missed Hugh Barker. His second > wife Ruth, a really lovely person, did her level best to make a > success of the relationship but inevitably she eventually concluded it > was impossible and decided to separate and return to Rhodesia. > Amazingly John announced he would give up the BBC, the UK and his > entire lifestyle and join her. Using his private pilots license he > inveigled his way into a job training pilots for the Rhodesian > authorities and he did end his days by crashing on an exercise. Ruth > wrote to us after his demise advising tragically that his misjudgement > also took the life of the young woman in the aircraft with him. There > is every reason to believe that John was, much in the manner of his > road behaviour, putting on a show to scare the poor lass witless by > flying under overhead power cables. His devil-may-care got the better > of his ability. Ruth had a brother and a younger sister who both came > to the UK and visited us. They were as delightful as Ruth but when my > first marriage ended I lost touch. > Definitely no ?s? on the end of Staple. > Dave Newbitt. > *From:* dave.mdv via Tech1 > *Sent:* Friday, February 25, 2022 1:32 PM > *To:* patheigham ; tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > *Subject:* Re: [Tech1] John Staple(s) > > Yes, I thought it had an 's' on the end but the DM didn't. John took > myself and my No.2 (Wilf, now Wendy Rath) to Biggin Hill for a? flight > but luckily it rained all afternoon so we waited in the bar and then > came home, much safer - although John's driving was as erratic as he > was! I think he married a Rhodesian lady and went to live over there > at a time when everybody else was leaving due to the politics at the > time. There were lots of rumours about his death including smuggling, > power lines and so on. Many more stories including mixing a drama with > his belt undone (for comfort) and jumping up to answer the wall phone > in front of the production area glass window, guess what happened! > Cheers, Dave > > On 25/02/2022 12:49, patheigham wrote: >> >> I?d almost forgotten John Staple (or was it Staples, with an ?s??). >> >> He was an institution, and I enjoyed working with him. >> >> I have a memory of him at the desk in Riverside, saying: >> >> ?Dear God! I need a pee! Oh, think something sexy ? Ah, that?s better!? >> >> I believe that he was killed in a light plane accident in South >> Africa, but that was thought to be a dubious terrorist act? >> >> Pat >> >> Sent from Mail for >> Windows >> >> *From: *dave.mdv via Tech1 >> *Sent: *25 February 2022 12:39 >> *To: *tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk >> *Subject: *[Tech1] Newspaper article >> >> In today's Daily Mirror there is a big article about newsreader, Jan >> >> Leeming, and her five marriages, the first of which was to a famous >> >> Sound Supervisor at TVC! (photo attached) Cheers, Dave. >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Avast logo >> >> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >> www.avast.com >> >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > -- > Tech1 mailing list > Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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He ended up at Millbank, I hear, good luck to them! Cheers, Dave On 25/02/2022 13:37, Dave Plowman via Tech1 wrote: > > I've oft wondered if he and Staggers Wilson vied to be the biggest > 'character' of the time? > > On 25/02/2022 13:32, dave.mdv via Tech1 wrote: >> >> Yes, I thought it had an 's' on the end but the DM didn't. John took >> myself and my No.2 (Wilf, now Wendy Rath) to Biggin Hill for a? >> flight but luckily it rained all afternoon so we waited in the bar >> and then came home, much safer - although John's driving was as >> erratic as he was! I think he married a Rhodesian lady and went to >> live over there at a time when everybody else was leaving due to the >> politics at the time. There were lots of rumours about his death >> including smuggling, power lines and so on. Many more stories >> including mixing a drama with his belt undone (for comfort) and >> jumping up to answer the wall phone in front of the production area >> glass window, guess what happened! Cheers, Dave >> >> On 25/02/2022 12:49, patheigham wrote: >>> >>> I?d almost forgotten John Staple (or was it Staples, with an ?s??). >>> >>> He was an institution, and I enjoyed working with him. >>> >>> I have a memory of him at the desk in Riverside, saying: >>> >>> ?Dear God! I need a pee! Oh, think something sexy ? Ah, that?s better!? >>> >>> I believe that he was killed in a light plane accident in South >>> Africa, but that was thought to be a dubious terrorist act? >>> >>> Pat >>> >>> Sent from Mail for >>> Windows >>> >>> *From: *dave.mdv via Tech1 >>> *Sent: *25 February 2022 12:39 >>> *To: *tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk >>> *Subject: *[Tech1] Newspaper article >>> >>> In today's Daily Mirror there is a big article about newsreader, Jan >>> >>> Leeming, and her five marriages, the first of which was to a famous >>> >>> Sound Supervisor at TVC! (photo attached) Cheers, Dave. >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> Avast logo >>> >>> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >>> www.avast.com >>> >>> >>> <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mibridge at mac.com Fri Feb 25 17:37:13 2022 From: mibridge at mac.com (M E GILES) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2022 23:37:13 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Putin Message-ID: <116A5D1F-F1A3-4CA6-A0ED-730A85ECA09A@mac.com> I know we shouldn?t be political on this site, but I doubt that anyone will oppose the aims of this campaign. Mike G Tech companies are amplifying Putin's disinformation, here's how we stop it: From graeme.wall at icloud.com Sat Feb 26 02:46:27 2022 From: graeme.wall at icloud.com (Graeme Wall) Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2022 08:46:27 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Putin In-Reply-To: <116A5D1F-F1A3-4CA6-A0ED-730A85ECA09A@mac.com> References: <116A5D1F-F1A3-4CA6-A0ED-730A85ECA09A@mac.com> Message-ID: <394A7FB2-575B-4E05-8C58-A23DC0014469@icloud.com> Regretably it will have no effect whatsoever. ? Graeme Wall > On 25 Feb 2022, at 23:37, M E GILES via Tech1 wrote: > > I know we shouldn?t be political on this site, but I doubt that anyone will oppose the aims of this campaign. > > Mike G > > Tech companies are amplifying Putin's disinformation, here's how we stop it: > > > -- > Tech1 mailing list > Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk From mibridge at mac.com Sat Feb 26 06:11:25 2022 From: mibridge at mac.com (Mike Giles) Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2022 12:11:25 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Putin In-Reply-To: <394A7FB2-575B-4E05-8C58-A23DC0014469@icloud.com> References: <394A7FB2-575B-4E05-8C58-A23DC0014469@icloud.com> Message-ID: Agreed, Graeme, that it won?t affect Putin?s delusions, but social media channels should not be allowing support for his totally fanciful ideas of history. Mike G > On 26 Feb 2022, at 08:47, Graeme Wall wrote: > > ?Regretably it will have no effect whatsoever. > ? > Graeme Wall > > >> On 25 Feb 2022, at 23:37, M E GILES via Tech1 wrote: >> >> I know we shouldn?t be political on this site, but I doubt that anyone will oppose the aims of this campaign. >> >> Mike G >> >> Tech companies are amplifying Putin's disinformation, here's how we stop it: >> >> >> -- >> Tech1 mailing list >> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk >> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk > From pat.heigham at amps.net Sat Feb 26 06:28:36 2022 From: pat.heigham at amps.net (patheigham) Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2022 12:28:36 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Putin In-Reply-To: References: <394A7FB2-575B-4E05-8C58-A23DC0014469@icloud.com> Message-ID: <621a1cf3.1c69fb81.8e4d0.fd8a@mx.google.com> WW2 started when Adolf marched in and took over Poland. Putin?s annexing of Ukraine seems remarkably similar. Sanctions won?t work, Russia will just turn off the oil supplies. (see the opening cartoon titles of Have I Got News for You). We could be in for an uncomfortable cold winter. Need a SWAT team to go in and sort him out. Where is Bond, Jason Bourne, Jack Reacher when they are needed? Pat (living in a fanciful make believe world of novels and films!). Sent from Mail for Windows From: Mike Giles via Tech1 Sent: 26 February 2022 12:11 To: Tech Ops Subject: Re: [Tech1] Putin Agreed, Graeme, that it won?t affect Putin?s delusions, but social media channels should not be allowing support for his totally fanciful ideas of history. Mike G > On 26 Feb 2022, at 08:47, Graeme Wall wrote: > > ?Regretably it will have no effect whatsoever. > ? > Graeme Wall > > >> On 25 Feb 2022, at 23:37, M E GILES via Tech1 wrote: >> >> I know we shouldn?t be political on this site, but I doubt that anyone will oppose the aims of this campaign. >> >> Mike G >> >> Tech companies are amplifying Putin's disinformation, here's how we stop it: >> >> >> -- >> Tech1 mailing list >> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk >> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk > -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dave at davesound.co.uk Sat Feb 26 06:37:52 2022 From: dave at davesound.co.uk (Dave Plowman) Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2022 12:37:52 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Putin In-Reply-To: <621a1cf3.1c69fb81.8e4d0.fd8a@mx.google.com> References: <394A7FB2-575B-4E05-8C58-A23DC0014469@icloud.com> <621a1cf3.1c69fb81.8e4d0.fd8a@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <289dea3d-4893-d760-4bc6-1f6d3d063724@davesound.co.uk> It would seem the rich and powerful in Russia don't actually much like living there. Hence all their properties in the more pleasant countries. Hit them hard to prevent them doing so, and they'll soon turn on Putin. Putin's lies will also be obvious to them, given they spend so much time in the West. On 26/02/2022 12:28, patheigham via Tech1 wrote: > > WW2 started when Adolf marched in and took over Poland. Putin?s > annexing of Ukraine seems remarkably similar. > > Sanctions won?t work, Russia will just turn off the oil supplies. > > (see the opening cartoon titles of Have I Got News for You). > > We could be in for an uncomfortable cold winter. > > Need a SWAT team to go in and sort him out. Where is Bond, Jason > Bourne, Jack Reacher when they are needed? > > Pat > > (living in a fanciful make believe world of novels and films!). > > Sent from Mail for > Windows > > *From: *Mike Giles via Tech1 > *Sent: *26 February 2022 12:11 > *To: *Tech Ops > *Subject: *Re: [Tech1] Putin > > Agreed, Graeme, that it won?t affect Putin?s delusions, but social > media channels should not be allowing support for his totally fanciful > ideas of history. > > Mike G > > > On 26 Feb 2022, at 08:47, Graeme Wall wrote: > > > > > > ?Regretably it will have no effect whatsoever. > > > ? > > > Graeme Wall > > > > > > > > >> On 25 Feb 2022, at 23:37, M E GILES via Tech1 > wrote: > > >> > > >> I know we shouldn?t be political on this site, but I doubt that > anyone will oppose the aims of this campaign. > > >> > > >> Mike G > > >> > > >> Tech companies are amplifying Putin's disinformation, here's how we > stop it: > > >> > > >> > > > >> -- > > >> Tech1 mailing list > > >> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > > >> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Avast logo > > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > www.avast.com > > > <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Pat Sent from Mail for Windows -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alec.bray.2 at gmail.com Sat Feb 26 07:11:19 2022 From: alec.bray.2 at gmail.com (Alec Bray) Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2022 13:11:19 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Reach ..er Jack In-Reply-To: <621a1cf3.1c69fb81.8e4d0.fd8a@mx.google.com> References: <394A7FB2-575B-4E05-8C58-A23DC0014469@icloud.com> <621a1cf3.1c69fb81.8e4d0.fd8a@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <49745388-e30a-44ba-e1eb-8dfbdb3c6d22@gmail.com> Hi On 26/02/2Hi022 12:28, patheigham via Tech1 wrote: > Where is ... Jack Reacher Alive and well on Amazon Prime.? At least someone who looks the part ... And the adaption seems faithful to the original story.? My wife said "I remember that line from the book!"? She was initially very reluctant to watch "Reacher" as she had this mental picture of Jack - and of course little diddly Tom Cruise was just ludicrous for the film(s)... We binge watched the whole season over three nights ... (AND you get free deliveries from Amazon...) -- ======= Alec Bray alec.bray.2 at gmail.com Mob: 07789 561 346 Tel: 0118 981 7502 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pat.heigham at amps.net Sat Feb 26 07:17:56 2022 From: pat.heigham at amps.net (patheigham) Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2022 13:17:56 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Putin In-Reply-To: <148BBF8A3259483D804B4082B31254A9@0023242e4e14> References: <394A7FB2-575B-4E05-8C58-A23DC0014469@icloud.com> <621a1cf3.1c69fb81.8e4d0.fd8a@mx.google.com> <148BBF8A3259483D804B4082B31254A9@0023242e4e14> Message-ID: <621a2883.1c69fb81.586b0.20d0@mx.google.com> Interesting, David, but what?s the figure for oil? 5% doesn?t sound much but the loss of 5% gives our gas suppliers an excuse to raise fuel prices to far more than that. Pat Sent from Mail for Windows From: David Brunt Sent: 26 February 2022 12:43 To: patheigham; Mike Giles; Tech Ops Subject: Re: [Tech1] Putin As I understand it, only about 5% of UK gas supply comes from Russia. From: patheigham via Tech1 Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2022 12:28 PM To: Mike Giles ; Tech Ops Subject: Re: [Tech1] Putin ? WW2 started when Adolf marched in and took over Poland. Putin?s annexing of Ukraine seems remarkably similar. Sanctions won?t work, Russia will just turn off the oil supplies. (see the opening cartoon titles of Have I Got News for You). We could be in for an uncomfortable cold winter. ? Need a SWAT team to go in and sort him out. Where is Bond, Jason Bourne, Jack Reacher when they are needed? Pat (living in a fanciful make believe world of novels and films!). ? Sent from Mail for Windows -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From davidvbrunt at gmail.com Sat Feb 26 07:19:59 2022 From: davidvbrunt at gmail.com (David Brunt) Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2022 13:19:59 -0000 Subject: [Tech1] Putin In-Reply-To: <621a2883.1c69fb81.586b0.20d0@mx.google.com> References: <394A7FB2-575B-4E05-8C58-A23DC0014469@icloud.com> <621a1cf3.1c69fb81.8e4d0.fd8a@mx.google.com> <148BBF8A3259483D804B4082B31254A9@0023242e4e14> <621a2883.1c69fb81.586b0.20d0@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Not entirely sure about oil. Doesn?t most of UK Oil hail from UAE and the Middle East? Prices are already going up. They don?t need any excuse. From: patheigham Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2022 1:17 PM To: David Brunt ; Mike Giles ; Tech Ops Subject: RE: [Tech1] Putin Interesting, David, but what?s the figure for oil? 5% doesn?t sound much but the loss of 5% gives our gas suppliers an excuse to raise fuel prices to far more than that. Pat Sent from Mail for Windows From: David Brunt Sent: 26 February 2022 12:43 To: patheigham; Mike Giles; Tech Ops Subject: Re: [Tech1] Putin As I understand it, only about 5% of UK gas supply comes from Russia. From: patheigham via Tech1 Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2022 12:28 PM To: Mike Giles ; Tech Ops Subject: Re: [Tech1] Putin WW2 started when Adolf marched in and took over Poland. Putin?s annexing of Ukraine seems remarkably similar. Sanctions won?t work, Russia will just turn off the oil supplies. (see the opening cartoon titles of Have I Got News for You). We could be in for an uncomfortable cold winter. Need a SWAT team to go in and sort him out. Where is Bond, Jason Bourne, Jack Reacher when they are needed? Pat (living in a fanciful make believe world of novels and films!). 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Pat Sent from Mail for Windows From: David Brunt Sent: 26 February 2022 13:20 To: Mike Giles; Tech Ops; patheigham Subject: Re: [Tech1] Putin Not entirely sure about oil.? Doesn?t most of UK Oil hail from UAE and the Middle East? Prices are already going up. They don?t need any excuse. ? From: patheigham Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2022 1:17 PM To: David Brunt ; Mike Giles ; Tech Ops Subject: RE: [Tech1] Putin ? Interesting, David, but what?s the figure for oil? ? 5% doesn?t sound much but the loss of 5% gives our gas suppliers an excuse to raise fuel prices to far more than that. Pat ? Sent from Mail for Windows ? From: David Brunt Sent: 26 February 2022 12:43 To: patheigham; Mike Giles; Tech Ops Subject: Re: [Tech1] Putin ? As I understand it, only about 5% of UK gas supply comes from Russia. From: patheigham via Tech1 Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2022 12:28 PM To: Mike Giles ; Tech Ops Subject: Re: [Tech1] Putin ? WW2 started when Adolf marched in and took over Poland. Putin?s annexing of Ukraine seems remarkably similar. Sanctions won?t work, Russia will just turn off the oil supplies. (see the opening cartoon titles of Have I Got News for You). We could be in for an uncomfortable cold winter. ? Need a SWAT team to go in and sort him out. Where is Bond, Jason Bourne, Jack Reacher when they are needed? Pat (living in a fanciful make believe world of novels and films!). ? Sent from Mail for Windows ? This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.com -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 9E9234EC77224DB2A4C2D1FD56723380.png Type: image/png Size: 139 bytes Desc: not available URL: From pat.heigham at amps.net Sat Feb 26 07:43:16 2022 From: pat.heigham at amps.net (patheigham) Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2022 13:43:16 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Reach ..er Jack In-Reply-To: <49745388-e30a-44ba-e1eb-8dfbdb3c6d22@gmail.com> References: <394A7FB2-575B-4E05-8C58-A23DC0014469@icloud.com> <621a1cf3.1c69fb81.8e4d0.fd8a@mx.google.com> <49745388-e30a-44ba-e1eb-8dfbdb3c6d22@gmail.com> Message-ID: <621a2e74.1c69fb81.e5e52.1784@mx.google.com> Yep, I loved the Reacher stories. The author, James Grant, pen name Lee Child, used to be a presentation director at Granada. Like your wife, I form a mental image of the character, and equally disappointed with Tom Cruise. But it?s his name that sells the movie and pulls in the punters. (Maybe like Audie Murphy, he stood on a box while his lady co-star acted in a trench!). Perhaps Pierce Brosnan might have filled the bill. Pat Sent from Mail for Windows From: Alec Bray via Tech1 Sent: 26 February 2022 13:11 To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk Subject: [Tech1] Reach ..er Jack Hi On 26/02/2Hi022 12:28, patheigham via Tech1 wrote: Where is ... Jack Reacher Alive and well on Amazon Prime.? At least someone who looks the part ... And the adaption seems faithful to the original story.? My wife said "I remember that line from the book!"? She was initially very reluctant to watch "Reacher" as she had this mental picture of Jack - and of course little diddly Tom Cruise was just ludicrous for the film(s)... We binge watched the whole season over three nights ... (AND you get free deliveries from Amazon...) -- ======= Alec Bray alec.bray.2 at gmail.com Mob: 07789 561 346 Tel: 0118 981 7502 -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Sent from Mail for Windows From: Paul Thackray Sent: 26 February 2022 14:49 To: patheigham; Tech Ops Subject: Re: [Tech1] State Pension I guess for those who have not received any pay rise for a number of years , may see your ?273 per year as worth while? Paul Thackray PGT Media Consulting Ltd. 07802 243979 Mail; paul at pgtmedia.co.uk Web; http://www.pgtmedia.co.uk Linkedin;?? http://uk.linkedin.com/pub/paul-thackray/19/379/746 IMDB; http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1488554/ From: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk Sent: 26 February 2022 13:04 To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk Reply to: pat.heigham at amps.net Subject: [Tech1] State Pension Hooray! From April, our magnanimous government will give me another ?5 a week! And this is the best bit ? from my 80th Birthday, another 25p! Wow! What shall I spend it on? A bag of crisps ? no they cost a ?1. ? MP?s are on an annual salary of nearly ?82K and when Lord?s peers get ?300 a day just for signing in, 25p is but a widow?s mite! For ?82K I expect them to do something for us. No wonder they look so happy when the results are announced. ? Pat ? ? Sent from Mail for Windows ? This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.com -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: C3BC4BCAF8754572BE8F8D473E05FD32.png Type: image/png Size: 160 bytes Desc: not available URL: From paul at pgtmedia.co.uk Sat Feb 26 09:48:11 2022 From: paul at pgtmedia.co.uk (Paul Thackray) Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2022 15:48:11 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] State Pension In-Reply-To: <621a48b8.1c69fb81.f006e.b153@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <93jgurrouh1453ai7s3fl8ud.1645890491488@pgtmedia.co.uk> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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But hey, Pat, you stuff yourself with bags of crisps and old Bond films if that?s all you want. N. Nick Ware - From my iPad mini 6 On 26 Feb 2022, at 14:49, Paul Thackray via Tech1 wrote: ? I guess for those who have not received any pay rise for a number of years , may see your ?273 per year as worth while? Paul Thackray PGT Media Consulting Ltd. 07802 243979 Mail; paul at pgtmedia.co.uk Web; http://www.pgtmedia.co.uk Linkedin; http://uk.linkedin.com/pub/paul-thackray/19/379/746 IMDB; http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1488554/ From: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk Sent: 26 February 2022 13:04 To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk Reply to: pat.heigham at amps.net Subject: [Tech1] State Pension Hooray! From April, our magnanimous government will give me another ?5 a week! And this is the best bit ? from my 80th Birthday, another 25p! Wow! What shall I spend it on? A bag of crisps ? no they cost a ?1. MP?s are on an annual salary of nearly ?82K and when Lord?s peers get ?300 a day just for signing in, 25p is but a widow?s mite! For ?82K I expect them to do something for us. No wonder they look so happy when the results are announced. Pat Sent from Mail for Windows ________________________________ [Avast logo] This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.com -- Tech1 mailing list Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mibridge at mac.com Sat Feb 26 10:36:17 2022 From: mibridge at mac.com (M E GILES) Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2022 16:36:17 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Putin In-Reply-To: <621a2ba0.1c69fb81.21679.1200@mx.google.com> References: <394A7FB2-575B-4E05-8C58-A23DC0014469@icloud.com> <621a1cf3.1c69fb81.8e4d0.fd8a@mx.google.com> <148BBF8A3259483D804B4082B31254A9@0023242e4e14> <621a2883.1c69fb81.586b0.20d0@mx.google.com> <621a2ba0.1c69fb81.21679.1200@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <8B440F7B-3D94-40B2-A9B4-D7862C506F58@mac.com> As a variation on the theme, I wonder if anyone has calculated the effect which the likes of Putin?s current extravaganza have on climate change ~ or the two world wars and all the rest, for that matter. Still, it won?t worry those Russian soldiers whom Putin has sacrificed for his own glorification, presumably already consumed by the transportable crematoria which apparently now follow Russian soldiers into battle ~ saves him the embarrassment of welcoming them home in body bags. Sting?s song ?Russians? should find a new relevance. Mike G > On 26 Feb 2022, at 13:31, patheigham wrote: > > Probably ? there was a fascinating programme the other night about building the Northfield rig, I think it was called, at Nigg in Scotland. > (had a job on the Montrose gas rig to update the safety video after the Piper Alpha fire. I spent the night out there and was terrified). > Pat > > Sent from Mail for Windows > > From: David Brunt > Sent: 26 February 2022 13:20 > To: Mike Giles ; Tech Ops ; patheigham > Subject: Re: [Tech1] Putin > > Not entirely sure about oil. Doesn?t most of UK Oil hail from UAE and the Middle East? > > Prices are already going up. They don?t need any excuse. > > > From: patheigham > Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2022 1:17 PM > To: David Brunt ; Mike Giles ; Tech Ops > Subject: RE: [Tech1] Putin > > Interesting, David, but what?s the figure for oil? > > 5% doesn?t sound much but the loss of 5% gives our gas suppliers an excuse to raise fuel prices to far more than that. > Pat > > Sent from Mail for Windows > > From: David Brunt > Sent: 26 February 2022 12:43 > To: patheigham ; Mike Giles ; Tech Ops > Subject: Re: [Tech1] Putin > > As I understand it, only about 5% of UK gas supply comes from Russia. > > From: patheigham via Tech1 > Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2022 12:28 PM > To: Mike Giles ; Tech Ops > Subject: Re: [Tech1] Putin > > WW2 started when Adolf marched in and took over Poland. 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URL: From alanaudio at me.com Sat Feb 26 10:45:43 2022 From: alanaudio at me.com (Alan Taylor) Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2022 16:45:43 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Putin In-Reply-To: <8B440F7B-3D94-40B2-A9B4-D7862C506F58@mac.com> References: <8B440F7B-3D94-40B2-A9B4-D7862C506F58@mac.com> Message-ID: <1186C670-4C80-4C4A-B1F8-324EC52870A7@me.com> Some people might not be able to instantly point to Ukraine on a map. See if you can work out where it is on this map, which shows passenger aircraft movements this afternoon. Alan Taylor > On 26 Feb 2022, at 16:36, M E GILES via Tech1 wrote: > > ?As a variation on the theme, I wonder if anyone has calculated the effect which the likes of Putin?s current extravaganza have on climate change ~ or the two world wars and all the rest, for that matter. Still, it won?t worry those Russian soldiers whom Putin has sacrificed for his own glorification, presumably already consumed by the transportable crematoria which apparently now follow Russian soldiers into battle ~ saves him the embarrassment of welcoming them home in body bags. > > Sting?s song ?Russians? should find a new relevance. > > Mike G > > > >> On 26 Feb 2022, at 13:31, patheigham wrote: >> >> Probably ? there was a fascinating programme the other night about building the Northfield rig, I think it was called, at Nigg in Scotland. >> (had a job on the Montrose gas rig to update the safety video after the Piper Alpha fire. I spent the night out there and was terrified). >> Pat >> >> Sent from Mail for Windows >> >> From: David Brunt >> Sent: 26 February 2022 13:20 >> To: Mike Giles; Tech Ops; patheigham >> Subject: Re: [Tech1] Putin >> >> Not entirely sure about oil. Doesn?t most of UK Oil hail from UAE and the Middle East? >> >> Prices are already going up. They don?t need any excuse. >> >> >> From: patheigham >> Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2022 1:17 PM >> To: David Brunt ; Mike Giles ; Tech Ops >> Subject: RE: [Tech1] Putin >> >> Interesting, David, but what?s the figure for oil? >> >> 5% doesn?t sound much but the loss of 5% gives our gas suppliers an excuse to raise fuel prices to far more than that. >> Pat >> >> Sent from Mail for Windows >> >> From: David Brunt >> Sent: 26 February 2022 12:43 >> To: patheigham; Mike Giles; Tech Ops >> Subject: Re: [Tech1] Putin >> >> As I understand it, only about 5% of UK gas supply comes from Russia. >> >> From: patheigham via Tech1 >> Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2022 12:28 PM >> To: Mike Giles ; Tech Ops >> Subject: Re: [Tech1] Putin >> >> WW2 started when Adolf marched in and took over Poland. Putin?s annexing of Ukraine seems remarkably similar. >> Sanctions won?t work, Russia will just turn off the oil supplies. >> (see the opening cartoon titles of Have I Got News for You). >> We could be in for an uncomfortable cold winter. >> >> Need a SWAT team to go in and sort him out. Where is Bond, Jason Bourne, Jack Reacher when they are needed? >> Pat >> (living in a fanciful make believe world of novels and films!). >> >> Sent from Mail for Windows >> >> >> >> <9E9234EC77224DB2A4C2D1FD56723380.png> >> >> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >> www.avast.com >> >> >> >> <9E9234EC77224DB2A4C2D1FD56723380.png> > > -- > Tech1 mailing list > Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Graeme Wall > On 26 Feb 2022, at 12:11, Mike Giles via Tech1 wrote: > > Agreed, Graeme, that it won?t affect Putin?s delusions, but social media channels should not be allowing support for his totally fanciful ideas of history. > > Mike G > >> On 26 Feb 2022, at 08:47, Graeme Wall wrote: >> >> ?Regretably it will have no effect whatsoever. >> ? >> Graeme Wall >> >> >>> On 25 Feb 2022, at 23:37, M E GILES via Tech1 wrote: >>> >>> I know we shouldn?t be political on this site, but I doubt that anyone will oppose the aims of this campaign. >>> >>> Mike G >>> >>> Tech companies are amplifying Putin's disinformation, here's how we stop it: >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Tech1 mailing list >>> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk >>> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk >> > > -- > Tech1 mailing list > Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk From dave.mdv at btinternet.com Sat Feb 26 11:18:01 2022 From: dave.mdv at btinternet.com (dave.mdv) Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2022 17:18:01 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] State Pension In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7d84ad14-50d5-b4db-ddf0-2c2bafbeedad@btinternet.com> Hear, Hear! Cheers, Dave On 26/02/2022 16:18, Nick Ware via Tech1 wrote: > ?Maybe rather than sitting smugly in his little batchelor flat > wondering what to spend his extra State pension on, Pat could donate > it to the Lifeboat Society, or Cancer Research, or any one of a > hundred other needy causes. Or better still, get out and actually *do* > some some charity work. > My wife (20 years younger than me) and one of my daughters are NHS > key-workers. Neither has seen a pay rise for a number of years, but > both have seen their state pensionable age go from 60 to 67. Ditto, my > other daughter who works in the state education system. > But hey, Pat, you stuff yourself with bags of crisps and old Bond > films if that?s all you want. > N. > Nick Ware - From my iPad mini 6 > >> On 26 Feb 2022, at 14:49, Paul Thackray via Tech1 >> wrote: >> >> ? >> I guess for those who have not received any pay rise for a number of >> years , may see your ?273 per year as worth while? >> >> Paul Thackray >> >> PGT Media Consulting Ltd. >> >> 07802 243979 >> >> Mail; paul at pgtmedia.co.uk >> >> Web; http://www.pgtmedia.co.uk >> >> Linkedin; http://uk.linkedin.com/pub/paul-thackray/19/379/746 >> >> IMDB; http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1488554/ >> >> *From:* tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk >> *Sent:* 26 February 2022 13:04 >> *To:* tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk >> *Reply to:* pat.heigham at amps.net >> *Subject:* [Tech1] State Pension >> >> >> Hooray! From April, our magnanimous government will give me another >> ?5 a week! And this is the best bit ? from my 80^th Birthday, another >> 25p! >> >> Wow! What shall I spend it on? A bag of crisps ? no they cost a ?1. >> >> MP?s are on an annual salary of nearly ?82K and when Lord?s peers get >> ?300 a day just for signing in, 25p is but a widow?s mite! >> >> For ?82K I expect them to do something for us. >> >> No wonder they look so happy when the results are announced. >> >> Pat >> >> Sent from Mail for >> Windows >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Avast logo >> >> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >> www.avast.com >> >> >> -- >> Tech1 mailing list >> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk >> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Or better still, get out and actually >> *do* some some charity work. >> My wife (20 years younger than me) and one of my daughters are NHS >> key-workers. Neither has seen a pay rise for a number of years, but >> both have seen their state pensionable age go from 60 to 67. Ditto, >> my other daughter who works in the state education system. >> But hey, Pat, you stuff yourself with bags of crisps and old Bond >> films if that?s all you want. >> N. >> Nick Ware - From my iPad mini 6 >> >>> On 26 Feb 2022, at 14:49, Paul Thackray via Tech1 >>> wrote: >>> >>> ? >>> I guess for those who have not received any pay rise for a number of >>> years , may see your ?273 per year as worth while? >>> >>> Paul Thackray >>> >>> PGT Media Consulting Ltd. >>> >>> 07802 243979 >>> >>> Mail; paul at pgtmedia.co.uk >>> >>> Web; http://www.pgtmedia.co.uk >>> >>> Linkedin; http://uk.linkedin.com/pub/paul-thackray/19/379/746 >>> >>> IMDB; http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1488554/ >>> >>> *From:* tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk >>> *Sent:* 26 February 2022 13:04 >>> *To:* tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk >>> *Reply to:* pat.heigham at amps.net >>> *Subject:* [Tech1] State Pension >>> >>> >>> Hooray! From April, our magnanimous government will give me another >>> ?5 a week! And this is the best bit ? from my 80^th Birthday, >>> another 25p! >>> >>> Wow! What shall I spend it on? A bag of crisps ? no they cost a ?1. >>> >>> MP?s are on an annual salary of nearly ?82K and when Lord?s peers >>> get ?300 a day just for signing in, 25p is but a widow?s mite! >>> >>> For ?82K I expect them to do something for us. >>> >>> No wonder they look so happy when the results are announced. >>> >>> Pat >>> >>> Sent from Mail for >>> Windows >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> Avast logo >>> >>> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >>> www.avast.com >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Tech1 mailing list >>> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk >>> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mibridge at mac.com Sat Feb 26 16:59:44 2022 From: mibridge at mac.com (M E GILES) Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2022 22:59:44 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] BBC Pension In-Reply-To: References: <7d84ad14-50d5-b4db-ddf0-2c2bafbeedad@btinternet.com> Message-ID: <888B4A01-CD04-422E-ACDB-2A3F09081E8E@mac.com> It wouldn?t have been the Beeb without you, Dave! And if you need proof ~ you?re not there now and it?s definitely not the Beeb we knew! After all, all cabbages are green (apart from the red ones), therefore all green things are cabbages ~ I wonder if that?s Putin?s philosophy. Mike G > On 26 Feb 2022, at 18:33, dave.mdv via Tech1 wrote: > > Anyone with a Beeb pension should count themselves lucky! A rise of 7.5% this year is beyond the wildest dreams of most workers. Thank goodness I decided to stay at the BBC for as long as possible no matter what the lucrative offers from ITV. Cheers, Dave > > On 26/02/2022 17:18, dave.mdv via Tech1 wrote: >> Hear, Hear! Cheers, Dave >> >> On 26/02/2022 16:18, Nick Ware via Tech1 wrote: >>> ?Maybe rather than sitting smugly in his little batchelor flat wondering what to spend his extra State pension on, Pat could donate it to the Lifeboat Society, or Cancer Research, or any one of a hundred other needy causes. Or better still, get out and actually do some some charity work. >>> My wife (20 years younger than me) and one of my daughters are NHS key-workers. Neither has seen a pay rise for a number of years, but both have seen their state pensionable age go from 60 to 67. Ditto, my other daughter who works in the state education system. >>> But hey, Pat, you stuff yourself with bags of crisps and old Bond films if that?s all you want. >>> N. >>> Nick Ware - From my iPad mini 6 >>> >>>> On 26 Feb 2022, at 14:49, Paul Thackray via Tech1 wrote: >>>> >>>> ? >>>> I guess for those who have not received any pay rise for a number of years , may see your ?273 per year as worth while? >>>> >>>> Paul Thackray >>>> >>>> PGT Media Consulting Ltd. >>>> >>>> 07802 243979 >>>> Mail; paul at pgtmedia.co.uk >>>> Web; http://www.pgtmedia.co.uk >>>> Linkedin; http://uk.linkedin.com/pub/paul-thackray/19/379/746 >>>> IMDB; http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1488554/ >>>> From: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk >>>> Sent: 26 February 2022 13:04 >>>> To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk >>>> Reply to: pat.heigham at amps.net >>>> Subject: [Tech1] State Pension >>>> >>>> Hooray! From April, our magnanimous government will give me another ?5 a week! And this is the best bit ? from my 80th Birthday, another 25p! >>>> Wow! What shall I spend it on? A bag of crisps ? no they cost a ?1. >>>> >>>> MP?s are on an annual salary of nearly ?82K and when Lord?s peers get ?300 a day just for signing in, 25p is but a widow?s mite! >>>> For ?82K I expect them to do something for us. >>>> No wonder they look so happy when the results are announced. >>>> >>>> Pat >>>> >>>> >>>> Sent from Mail for Windows >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >>>> www.avast.com >>>> -- >>>> Tech1 mailing list >>>> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk >>>> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk >>> >> > -- > Tech1 mailing list > Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From barrybonner119 at btinternet.com Sun Feb 27 05:49:29 2022 From: barrybonner119 at btinternet.com (Barry Bonner) Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2022 11:49:29 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Sypher prep In-Reply-To: <5B997335-E4C2-443A-8108-9D184A10F643@me.com> References: <5B997335-E4C2-443A-8108-9D184A10F643@me.com> Message-ID: <6F1041CA-59E4-4305-B97E-9D9B10E38B6B@btinternet.com> Hi Alan, Here?s the info for Limited Sypher as presented to us by Derek Gough and John EE??.Enjoy! The prep rooms were on the left of the corridor leading to Syper One & Two. The first room became the little studio and the second the control room as above, the door between the two rooms was removed so the Gram op could breathe! Edit room two remained as was. Regards, Barry. (Sypher Wizard!) 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Paul Thackray PGT Media Consulting Ltd. 07802 243979 Mail; paul at pgtmedia.co.uk Web; http://www.pgtmedia.co.uk Linkedin; http://uk.linkedin.com/pub/paul-thackray/19/379/746 IMDB; http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1488554/ From: Tech1 On Behalf Of dave.mdv via Tech1 Sent: 26 February 2022 18:33 To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk Subject: Re: [Tech1] BBC Pension Anyone with a Beeb pension should count themselves lucky! A rise of 7.5% this year is beyond the wildest dreams of most workers. Thank goodness I decided to stay at the BBC for as long as possible no matter what the lucrative offers from ITV. Cheers, Dave On 26/02/2022 17:18, dave.mdv via Tech1 wrote: Hear, Hear! Cheers, Dave On 26/02/2022 16:18, Nick Ware via Tech1 wrote: ?Maybe rather than sitting smugly in his little batchelor flat wondering what to spend his extra State pension on, Pat could donate it to the Lifeboat Society, or Cancer Research, or any one of a hundred other needy causes. Or better still, get out and actually do some some charity work. My wife (20 years younger than me) and one of my daughters are NHS key-workers. Neither has seen a pay rise for a number of years, but both have seen their state pensionable age go from 60 to 67. Ditto, my other daughter who works in the state education system. But hey, Pat, you stuff yourself with bags of crisps and old Bond films if that?s all you want. N. Nick Ware - From my iPad mini 6 On 26 Feb 2022, at 14:49, Paul Thackray via Tech1 wrote: ? I guess for those who have not received any pay rise for a number of years , may see your ?273 per year as worth while? Paul Thackray PGT Media Consulting Ltd. 07802 243979 Mail; paul at pgtmedia.co.uk Web; http://www.pgtmedia.co.uk Linkedin; http://uk.linkedin.com/pub/paul-thackray/19/379/746 IMDB; http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1488554/ From: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk Sent: 26 February 2022 13:04 To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk Reply to: pat.heigham at amps.net Subject: [Tech1] State Pension Hooray! From April, our magnanimous government will give me another ?5 a week! And this is the best bit ? from my 80th Birthday, another 25p! Wow! What shall I spend it on? A bag of crisps ? no they cost a ?1. MP?s are on an annual salary of nearly ?82K and when Lord?s peers get ?300 a day just for signing in, 25p is but a widow?s mite! For ?82K I expect them to do something for us. No wonder they look so happy when the results are announced. Pat Sent from Mail for Windows _____ This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.com -- Tech1 mailing list Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From j at howell61.f9.co.uk Sun Feb 27 08:34:13 2022 From: j at howell61.f9.co.uk (John Howell) Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2022 14:34:13 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Sypher prep In-Reply-To: <5B997335-E4C2-443A-8108-9D184A10F643@me.com> References: <5B997335-E4C2-443A-8108-9D184A10F643@me.com> Message-ID: Hi Alan, Editing rooms did not normally have 8 Track machines but they could be imported for "special occasions". The prep was done to Umatic sound and vision. Limited Sypher /did/ have an 8 track and synchroniser, also balance key for A/B monitoring. There was a small studio with? foldback LS, picture monitor, and basic Comms.You could ask to do your prep in Limited Sypher and lay tracks but Prep focused on logging timecodes, choosing music and arranging FX.? I seem to remember it appeared in CAR as a routeable source so could go On Air in its own right. On the 2nd floor of the Main Block enter the Spur and take the 1st door on the left and you come to the head of a corridor with Sypher 1 on the right and Ltd Sypher on the left followed by Edit Room 1 and Edit Room 2, turn right at the end of the corridor and you come to the door at the back of? Sypher 2 Control Room. I hope this brings back memories ! John. On 25/02/2022 12:28, Alan Taylor via Tech1 wrote: > Can any of the sound guys remind me about Sypher prep and Limited Sypher? > > During the 1980s, we had with Sypher ( which became Sypher 1 ), followed by Sypher 2 and subsequently Syphers 3&4. We also had prep rooms and my diary mentions a place called Limited Sypher. > > Am I right in thinking that the prep rooms contained multitrack recorders and a synchroniser? Obviously they had ?? tape machines, grams and a U-Matic. Could we track-lay in the prep rooms? > > What about Limited Sypher? I remember the name, but can?t recall quite where it was, or what facilities it offered. > > Alan Taylor > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bernie833 at gmail.com Sun Feb 27 11:32:11 2022 From: bernie833 at gmail.com (Bernard Newnham) Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2022 17:32:11 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Sypher prep In-Reply-To: References: <5B997335-E4C2-443A-8108-9D184A10F643@me.com> Message-ID: <355a5e5e-3b81-ec9c-f73d-650bbc4069e4@ntlworld.com> How life moves on. Any of us can do this stuff and much more now, just sitting at our computer using free software. B On 27/02/2022 14:34, John Howell via Tech1 wrote: > > Hi Alan, > > Editing rooms did not normally have 8 Track machines but they could be > imported for "special occasions". The prep was done to Umatic sound > and vision. Limited Sypher /did/ have an 8 track and synchroniser, > also balance key for A/B monitoring. There was a small studio with? > foldback LS, picture monitor, and basic Comms.You could ask to do your > prep in Limited Sypher and lay tracks but Prep focused on logging > timecodes, choosing music and arranging FX.? I seem to remember it > appeared in CAR as a routeable source so could go On Air in its own right. > > On the 2nd floor of the Main Block enter the Spur and take the 1st > door on the left and you come to the head of a corridor with Sypher 1 > on the right and Ltd Sypher on the left followed by Edit Room 1 and > Edit Room 2, turn right at the end of the corridor and you come to the > door at the back of? Sypher 2 Control Room. > > > I hope this brings back memories ! > > > John. > > > > > On 25/02/2022 12:28, Alan Taylor via Tech1 wrote: >> Can any of the sound guys remind me about Sypher prep and Limited Sypher? >> >> During the 1980s, we had with Sypher ( which became Sypher 1 ), followed by Sypher 2 and subsequently Syphers 3&4. We also had prep rooms and my diary mentions a place called Limited Sypher. >> >> Am I right in thinking that the prep rooms contained multitrack recorders and a synchroniser? Obviously they had ?? tape machines, grams and a U-Matic. Could we track-lay in the prep rooms? >> >> What about Limited Sypher? I remember the name, but can?t recall quite where it was, or what facilities it offered. >> >> Alan Taylor >> >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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A bag of crisps ? no they cost a ?1. > > MP?s are on an annual salary of nearly ?82K and when Lord?s peers get ?300 a day just for signing in, 25p is but a widow?s mite! > For ?82K I expect them to do something for us. > No wonder they look so happy when the results are announced. > > Pat > > > Sent from Mail for Windows > > > > > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > www.avast.com > -- > Tech1 mailing list > Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pat.heigham at amps.net Mon Feb 28 05:15:58 2022 From: pat.heigham at amps.net (patheigham) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2022 11:15:58 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] State Pension In-Reply-To: <7FE643C2-CD96-4413-9D1E-A2187D7CD26E@gmail.com> References: <621a2541.1c69fb81.234ae.062d@mx.google.com> <7FE643C2-CD96-4413-9D1E-A2187D7CD26E@gmail.com> Message-ID: <621caeee.1c69fb81.9e89d.dbab@mx.google.com> Thank you Geoff. My comments about anything are merely chit-chat that might have been aired in the TVC teabars! Poor = not necessarily, but comfortable. Old = definitely, getting on for 80 in December. Re: BBC Pension, I?ve posted this before, but take heed! When I departed the Corporation, I left my pension in, just in case I returned. I didn?t, but my financial pension advisor reckoned that whatever it was worth, would be more beneficial placed elsewhere. Approaches to BBC Pensions produced the bleat that as I had left before the computers took over, they had no record of my contributions. I had kept all the documentation and hit them with that. Surprise, surprise, suddenly it was found! It was worth ?3K and subsequently placed as a single contribution into the Prudential. It all added to the other three SERA plans that were in place, resulting in a pot of ?92K to pay for a couple of retirement annuities. (The tax-free cash lump sum paid for my current BMW! My birthday present to myself!). So, the message is ? make sure that BBC Pensions know about you. Attached is a newsletter from BMW. I?ve been driving them for years ? why? because they are well engineered. As we won the war, maybe they should be free to us??? How is it, that the industries of the ?defeated? foes are so bloody successful? (Good topic for argueing in the teabar!) Pat From: Geoff Fletcher Sent: 28 February 2022 10:22 To: patheigham Cc: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk Subject: Re: [Tech1] State Pension Why are so many of you jumping on poor old Pat? He makes a valid point, and he hasn?t imposed a pay freeze on anyone as far as I know. Geoff F On 26 Feb 2022, at 13:04, patheigham via Tech1 wrote: Hooray! From April, our magnanimous government will give me another ?5 a week! And this is the best bit ? from my 80th?Birthday, another 25p! Wow! What shall I spend it on? A bag of crisps ? no they cost a ?1. ? MP?s are on an annual salary of nearly ?82K and when Lord?s peers get ?300 a day just for signing in, 25p is but a widow?s mite! For ?82K I expect them to do something for us. No wonder they look so happy when the results are announced. ? Pat ? ? Sent from?Mail?for Windows ? This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.? www.avast.com --? 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And this is the best bit ? from my 80^th Birthday, another >> 25p! >> Wow! What shall I spend it on? A bag of crisps ? no they cost a ?1. >> MP?s are on an annual salary of nearly ?82K and when Lord?s peers get >> ?300 a day just for signing in, 25p is but a widow?s mite! >> For ?82K I expect them to do something for us. >> No wonder they look so happy when the results are announced. >> Pat >> Sent fromMail for Windows >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Avast logo >> >> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >> www.avast.com >> >> >> -- >> Tech1 mailing list >> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk >> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From crew13 at vincent68.plus.com Mon Feb 28 08:37:43 2022 From: crew13 at vincent68.plus.com (crew13) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2022 14:37:43 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] When Vladimir Presses The Button Message-ID: Over a family lunch we asked what we?d like to eat in our last 4 minutes. I went through things from my Mum and Gran. Then I got to BBC sausage rolls! Made on the premises at TVC. Shooting in the Blue Peter Garden you could see them being made. After a rig, into the tea bar and a warm sausage roll and tea made in a pot. Bon Appetit! John V From graeme.wall at icloud.com Mon Feb 28 10:09:47 2022 From: graeme.wall at icloud.com (Graeme Wall) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2022 16:09:47 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] When Vladimir Presses The Button In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <06342DD7-0B5E-4F08-845D-8E2367D56058@icloud.com> Bacon roll, as supplied by location caterers everywhere! ? Graeme Wall > On 28 Feb 2022, at 14:37, crew13 via Tech1 wrote: > > Over a family lunch we asked what we?d like to eat in our last 4 minutes. > > I went through things from my Mum and Gran. > > Then I got to BBC sausage rolls! > > Made on the premises at TVC. Shooting in the Blue Peter Garden you could see them being made. > > After a rig, into the tea bar and a warm sausage roll and tea made in a pot. > > Bon Appetit! > > John V > > > > > -- > Tech1 mailing list > Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk From pat.heigham at amps.net Mon Feb 28 10:34:26 2022 From: pat.heigham at amps.net (patheigham) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2022 16:34:26 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] When Vladimir Presses The Button In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <621cf992.1c69fb81.22779.478a@mx.google.com> I don?t think I would have an appetite for anything, but maybe a handful of cyanide pills ? Oh! Shit, its all gone to peace, and I?ve just downed them! Pat Sent from Mail for Windows From: crew13 via Tech1 Sent: 28 February 2022 14:38 To: Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk Subject: [Tech1] When Vladimir Presses The Button Over a family lunch we asked what we?d like to eat in our last 4 minutes. Bon Appetit! John V -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alanaudio at me.com Mon Feb 28 10:37:22 2022 From: alanaudio at me.com (Alan Taylor) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2022 16:37:22 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] When Vladimir Presses The Button In-Reply-To: <06342DD7-0B5E-4F08-845D-8E2367D56058@icloud.com> References: <06342DD7-0B5E-4F08-845D-8E2367D56058@icloud.com> Message-ID: <4A96750B-C0AD-4E02-B05B-D4B1EFC48565@me.com> I used to live near Newbury when Greenham Common became a base for cruise missiles. You lot used to get door to door double glazing salesmen, I had a chap knock on the door asking if I valued my wife and children? He was trying to sell nuclear fallout shelters which could be installed in the garden. He was keen to point out that in the meantime it could also serve as a wonderful wine store or den. I pointed out that - 1) We lived so close to Greenham Common that we would be in ground zero if a bomb were dropped. Our chances of survival in such a shelter would be negligible. 2) If a nuclear war were to happen, I wouldn?t like to emerge from my shelter into a world populated solely by those who could afford shelters, or who had places reserved in official shelters. There would be nobody left capable of doing useful work. Alan Taylor > On 28 Feb 2022, at 16:10, Graeme Wall via Tech1 wrote: > > ?Bacon roll, as supplied by location caterers everywhere! > > ? > Graeme Wall > > >> On 28 Feb 2022, at 14:37, crew13 via Tech1 wrote: >> >> Over a family lunch we asked what we?d like to eat in our last 4 minutes. >> >> I went through things from my Mum and Gran. >> >> Then I got to BBC sausage rolls! >> >> Made on the premises at TVC. Shooting in the Blue Peter Garden you could see them being made. >> >> After a rig, into the tea bar and a warm sausage roll and tea made in a pot. >> >> Bon Appetit! >> >> John V >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Tech1 mailing list >> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk >> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk > > > -- > Tech1 mailing list > Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk From waresound at msn.com Mon Feb 28 11:57:55 2022 From: waresound at msn.com (Nick Ware) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2022 17:57:55 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] When Vladimir Presses The Button In-Reply-To: <621cf992.1c69fb81.22779.478a@mx.google.com> References: <621cf992.1c69fb81.22779.478a@mx.google.com> Message-ID: I think Shakespeare beat you to that one, Pat, but he didn?t quite word it like that! Nick. Nick Ware - From my iPad mini 6 On 28 Feb 2022, at 16:35, patheigham via Tech1 wrote: ? I don?t think I would have an appetite for anything, but maybe a handful of cyanide pills ? Oh! Shit, its all gone to peace, and I?ve just downed them! Pat Sent from Mail for Windows From: crew13 via Tech1 Sent: 28 February 2022 14:38 To: Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk Subject: [Tech1] When Vladimir Presses The Button Over a family lunch we asked what we?d like to eat in our last 4 minutes. Bon Appetit! John V ________________________________ [Avast logo] This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.com -- Tech1 mailing list Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Does this put anyone off, or are we rich enough not to worry? It is very convenient. Otherwise, I wonder about a Wetherspoon's. This one seems to have good reviews - https://www.jdwetherspoon.com/pubs/all-pubs/england/london/penderels-oak-holborn All thoughts gratefully accepted. B -- Tech1 mailing list Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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