[Tech1] Petrol quality

David Newbitt dnewbitt at fireflyuk.net
Fri Jan 18 13:09:26 CST 2019 

Talking rubbish of course - the V8 was just the Stag, not the others 
mentioned. Sorry!

Dave Newbitt.

-----Original Message----- 
From: David Newbitt via Tech1
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2019 7:02 PM
To: John Nottage ; tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
Subject: Re: [Tech1] Petrol quality

Those Triumph engines were a liability. The in-line 4's were essentially
half of the V8's (2000; 2.5PI; Stag etc.) and were well known for breaking
crankshafts. I remember at Lime Grove doing 'Tonight' on an evening Cliff
Michelmore was telling us all about the Stag he had bought which he was
seriously in love with. Pretty much all surviving Stags have Ford engines.
Are there any surviving Dolomites or even Dolomite Sprints?

I had an early Saab 99 in 1974 which of course used what was essentially the
in-line 4 from Standard Triumph. It was a good car but eventually blew a
head gasket. Removing the cylinder head nuts was easy but the studs
routinely seized where they passed through the head. Lock-nutting two nuts
together on each protruding stud in turn enabled in theory the stud to be
rotated free by applying spanner force to the lower nut. In practice a 5
foot scaffold put-lug over the spanner just about provided enough leverage
to wind each stud right out. Got there eventually, had the head skimmed etc.
then replaced not with studs but with special bolts introduced to get over
the problem. Precautionary application of Copa-slip over the bolt shanks was
advised and acted on. Lasted indefinitely thereafter.

We were all resourceful in those days - necessity is the mother of
invention!

Dave Newbitt.


-----Original Message----- 
From: John Nottage via Tech1
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2019 5:13 PM
To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
Subject: Re: [Tech1] Petrol quality

I replaced my Vitesse with a Triumph 2000 Mk1, then I bought Keith
Harlow's green Dolomite. It was the last Triumph I bought. I got so fed
up with the rubbish build quality - I had to have a new engine in that
one: cost a fortune. I moved to German cars after that: VW & BMW.

John

On 18/01/2019 17:05, Graeme Wall wrote:
> My brother-in-law is still driving a Triumph Dolomite!  Held together with 
> string and duct tape I suspect.
> —
> Graeme Wall
>
>
>> On 18 Jan 2019, at 16:58, John Nottage via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> 
>> wrote:
>>
>> All this Triumph talk. I had a yellow Triumph herald 12/50 I bought in 
>> 1967 which rusted away. Got rid of it in '69 for £160 & bought a Triumph 
>> Vitesse 6 convertible which was much more fun to drive, especially with 
>> the modified suspension, before before it also rusted away.
>>
>> John
>>
>> On 18/01/2019 13:17, patheigham via Tech1 wrote:
>>> The 3 litre was a mistake!
>>> I constructed the spec on-line, and wanted a 2.5 litre engine (petrol 
>>> not diesel as the extra cost of a diesel would take 37 years to recoup 
>>> on the increased mpg, given low annual mileage). It was only when 
>>> organising
>>> insurance that it was pointed out that the capacity of the 325 was 
>>> actually 3 litre and not 2.5 as I expected!
>>> However I love the car and it was a retirement present to myself, using 
>>> the tax-free cash lump sum when my pensions matured. Also made use of 
>>> the government scrappage scheme on the old car, £2000, when the value of 
>>> the 18 year old one was probably only £1200. The dealership I went back 
>>> to were so pleased for my custom that they knocked off a further £2250, 
>>> thus making it affordable. It’ll see me out as I can’t see me changing 
>>> it.
>>> Anyway, at 76, I am entitled to a bit of luxury which I have earned!
>>> A sobering thought, that when I had my first Triumph Herald, one got two 
>>> _gallons_ at 4/3d and change from a ten bob note!
>>> Pat
>>> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for 
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>>> *From: *Nick Ware via Tech1 <mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
>>> *Sent: *17 January 2019 17:56
>>> *To: *tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk <mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
>>> *Subject: *Re: [Tech1] Petrol quality
>>> Did you know that the price of fuel at petrol stations is calculated by 
>>> the till, and not the manager? If the number of litres sold drops off, 
>>> the price comes down to encourage more sales. When sales increase above 
>>> a target threshold, the price can be nudged up accordingly. The Shell 
>>> stn over the road from here is normally among the most expensive in the 
>>> area (lots of passing custom), but today even they are down to 119.9p. 
>>> Sainsbury’s Burpham this afternoon was 118.9p, but I think I spent the 
>>> saved penny by going there!
>>> Of course, if we’re watching the pennies, another saving would be a less 
>>> expensive BMW with a smaller capacity engine. A 3 litre engine to carry 
>>> one person is hard to justify. The environment would like that too.
>>> Best wishes as ever,
>>> Nick.
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>     --------------------------------------------
>>>     On Thu, 17/1/19, patheigham via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
>>>     <mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>> wrote:
>>>     Subject: Re: [Tech1] Petrol quality
>>>     To: "Dave Plowman" <dave at davesound.co.uk
>>>     <mailto:dave at davesound.co.uk>>, "Chris Woolf"
>>>     <chris at chriswoolf.co.uk <mailto:chris at chriswoolf.co.uk>>,
>>>     "tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk <mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>"
>>>     <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk <mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>>
>>>     Date: Thursday, 17 January, 2019, 16:41
>>>     Regarding
>>>     mpg and supermarket filling stations – I use Sainsbury’s
>>>     Unleaded, which is flagged up as the cheapest in my area by
>>>     Petrol Prices (worth signing up for regular updates- they
>>>     monitor prices within 5km of your area).I usually get between 39 and
>>>     41.5 mpg with a 3 litre engine on an expensive BMW Sport
>>>     Coupe for a long run on A roads/motorways >100 miles.
>>>     Best has been 45.5.I
>>>     never lift the bonnet – leaving that to the service
>>>     technicians – it’s all computerised now. Gone are the
>>>     days when my Dad helped me regrind valve seats on my Triumph
>>>     Herald!BestPat  Sent from Mail
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