From jpn at imixmics.co.uk Sun Dec 1 02:08:02 2019 From: jpn at imixmics.co.uk (John Nottage) Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2019 08:08:02 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Car In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3963c538-232f-9e66-ae33-5490f1227fe0@imixmics.co.uk> The local police offered a free CAT marking scheme to discourage the thieves. I took my car along, but the they failed to mark it: it seems VW Golfs have the CAT mounted so deep in the workings of the car that the police couldn't reach to mark it. Of course the thieves can't get at it to steal it either! John On 30/11/2019 18:04, Paul Thackray via Tech1 wrote: > Its quick and they do not care who sees them. Seen a van pull up (We were on the 3rd floor. Looking out of a window) saw them go under the car, by the time we got down the steps they and the converter had all gone ! > > > > Paul Thackray > > PGT Media Consulting Ltd. > > 07802 243979 > > Mail;?paul at pgtmedia.co.uk > > Web;?http://www.pgtmedia.co.uk > > Linkedin;???http://uk.linkedin.com/pub/paul-thackray/19/379/746 > > IMDB;?http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1488554/ > > sent from my BlackBerry?the most secure mobile device?via the O2 Network > > > ? Original Message > > > From: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > Sent: 30 November 2019 17:18 > To: phil at philwthomas.plus.com; pete.m.thomas456 at gmail.com; daidor24 at wendoveremail.co.uk; davelebreton at btinternet.com; d.cjennings at btinternet.com; tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > Reply to: dave.mdv at btinternet.com > Subject: [Tech1] Car > > > We went shopping in Croydon today to a busy shopping complex. We spent > about 90 minutes there and when we got in the car to come home the noise > from the exhaust was terrific! I drove home very carefully (13 miles) > and when I looked under the car with a torch I found that the catalytic > converter had been cut off leaving a very short downpipe! Duh! On a > busy Saturday lunchtime in a busy car park and no-one noticed anything > going on. Cheers, Dave. > > -- > Tech1 mailing list > Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk > From pat.heigham at amps.net Sun Dec 1 10:13:10 2019 From: pat.heigham at amps.net (patheigham) Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2019 16:13:10 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Scam calls Message-ID: <5de3e696.1c69fb81.73789.64ff@mx.google.com> Thanks to those who flagged up recent scam calls to beware of. I received two calls during this last week, which numbers I did not recognise, so let the answer machine pick up ? instant dropped line. Mischieviously I then dialled these numbers, as the machine had saved them (putting in 141 first which withholds my number). Guess what? Friendly BT voice tells me that: ?This number has not been recognised....? i.e. a ?borrowed? number and therefore an obvious fake/scam call. Makes me wonder if my real number has been ?borrowed? at all? In the Bond movie ?Goldeneye? the Russian computer nerd can send a ?spike? to screw up the sender?s computer ? pity we cannot do this! Pat Sent from Mail for Windows 10 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bernie833 at gmail.com Mon Dec 2 04:13:24 2019 From: bernie833 at gmail.com (Bernard Newnham) Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2019 10:13:24 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Disorganised Christmas Message-ID: Welcome back to the 1970s. With SWT guards on strike now till Christmas, those of us down the line may well be staying where we are. Given that the strike is a stupid manufactured dispute about new trains the same as the Crossrail ones, and already agreed there, it may go away, but who knows. 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David ------ Original Message ------ From: "Bernard Newnham via Tech1" To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk Cc: "TechOps Announce" Sent: Monday, 2 Dec, 2019 At 10:13 Subject: [Tech1] Disorganised Christmas Welcome back to the 1970s. With SWT guards on strike now till Christmas, those of us down the line may well be staying where we are. Given that the strike is a stupid manufactured dispute about new trains the same as the Crossrail ones, and already agreed there, it may go away, but who knows. The plan was that Ken Webb will fix something in Richmond, but I think that I for one can only drive there along with millions of others. Ken has trouble with email (don't ask), so I'll talk to him separately in case he has an idea B -- Tech1 mailing list Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From barrybonner119 at btinternet.com Mon Dec 2 06:34:36 2019 From: barrybonner119 at btinternet.com (Barry Bonner) Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2019 12:34:36 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Disorganised Christmas In-Reply-To: <11c7423a.52f.16ec6838db5.Webtop.53@btinternet.com> References: <11c7423a.52f.16ec6838db5.Webtop.53@btinternet.com> Message-ID: <1F9C4A1E-CE13-4C4B-BC75-070901215F2E@btinternet.com> Good idea David! Barry. On 2 Dec 2019, at 12:09, davidpcarter--- via Tech1 wrote: > With all the pre-Christmas kerfuffle now taking off, perhaps it would be expedient to arrange it in January to relieve the post Christmas gloom! > > Have a good one, folks. > > David > > > > ------ Original Message ------ > From: "Bernard Newnham via Tech1" > To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > Cc: "TechOps Announce" > Sent: Monday, 2 Dec, 2019 At 10:13 > Subject: [Tech1] Disorganised Christmas > > Welcome back to the 1970s. With SWT guards on strike now till Christmas, those of us down the line may well be staying where we are. Given that the strike is a stupid manufactured dispute about new trains the same as the Crossrail ones, and already agreed there, it may go away, but who knows. > The plan was that Ken Webb will fix something in Richmond, but I think that I for one can only drive there along with millions of others. Ken has trouble with email (don't ask), so I'll talk to him separately in case he has an idea > > B > > -- > > Tech1 mailing list > > Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk > > -- > Tech1 mailing list > Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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With SWT guards on strike now till Christmas, those of us down the line may well be staying where we are. Given that the strike is a stupid manufactured dispute about new trains the same as the Crossrail ones, and already agreed there, it may go away, but who knows. > The plan was that Ken Webb will fix something in Richmond, but I think that I for one can only drive there along with millions of others. Ken has trouble with email (don't ask), so I'll talk to him separately in case he has an idea > > > B > -- > Tech1 mailing list > Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk > > -- > Announce mailing list > Announce at tech-ops.co.uk > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce_tech-ops.co.uk From dave at davesound.co.uk Mon Dec 2 08:06:08 2019 From: dave at davesound.co.uk (Dave Plowman) Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2019 14:06:08 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [Tech1] Car In-Reply-To: <24FF505D10CB4F59BD309DF75B6743F3@Gigabyte> References: <24FF505D10CB4F59BD309DF75B6743F3@Gigabyte> Message-ID: <581c17b174dave@davesound.co.uk> In article <24FF505D10CB4F59BD309DF75B6743F3 at Gigabyte>, Mike Jordan via Tech1 wrote: > I believe Honda and Toyotas are particularly vulnerable and Honda even > admit so much on their web pages. I'd guess it depends on how exposed the cat. is. How easy to get at the pipes either side. The minicab favourite - the Prius - seems to be particularly vulnerable. Cheap cordless angle grinders have a lot to answer for. -- *Change is inevitable, except from a vending machine* Dave Plowman dave at davesound.co.uk London SW 12 From david.jasma at sky.com Mon Dec 2 09:19:06 2019 From: david.jasma at sky.com (Dave Buckley) Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2019 15:19:06 -0000 Subject: [Tech1] Stealing Catalytic convertors References: <000001d5a923$d72e1a50$858a4ef0$.ref@sky.com> Message-ID: <000001d5a923$d72e1a50$858a4ef0$@sky.com> Double page spread in the printed version of the Daily Mail (pages 34/5 in the Scottish paper) about this problem. Here's the online version................. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7744581/New-breed-thieves-steal-cat alytic-converters-car-minutes.html Dave Buckley From dave.mdv at btinternet.com Mon Dec 2 12:37:10 2019 From: dave.mdv at btinternet.com (dave.mdv) Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2019 18:37:10 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Stealing Catalytic convertors In-Reply-To: <000001d5a923$d72e1a50$858a4ef0$@sky.com> References: <000001d5a923$d72e1a50$858a4ef0$.ref@sky.com> <000001d5a923$d72e1a50$858a4ef0$@sky.com> Message-ID: <756be57a-212b-fa18-e4e9-552bae2ac6ba@btinternet.com> What a coincidence! I'm told that if I claim on my insurance they will make the car a write-off and Honda would charge ?1700 to repair it! In the old days I would have done it myself! Cheers, Dave From dave.mdv at btinternet.com Mon Dec 2 12:41:46 2019 From: dave.mdv at btinternet.com (dave.mdv) Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2019 18:41:46 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Disorganised Christmas In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Kingston is great for me! My local bus goes past the door! The venue is in the centre of Kingston with easy access to Richmond and Ealing Underground and by bus to Putney, Guildford, and Woking for example. Cheers, Dave From rogerbunce at btinternet.com Tue Dec 3 04:23:03 2019 From: rogerbunce at btinternet.com (ROGER BUNCE) Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2019 10:23:03 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Tech1] Disorganised Christmas In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1965443215.14904395.1575368583587@mail.yahoo.com> Fear not Bernie, If we all cast our votes sensibly, by the time we have our Christmas lunch, SW Trains will be nationalised and the problem will have gone away! luv, Rog. On Monday, 2 December 2019, 10:14:12 GMT, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 wrote: Welcome back to the 1970s. With SWT guards on strike now till Christmas, those of us down the line may well be staying where we are. Given that the strike is a stupid manufactured dispute about new trains the same as the Crossrail ones, and already agreed there, it may go away, but who knows.The plan was that Ken Webb will fix something in Richmond, but I think that I for one can only drive there along with millions of others. Ken has trouble with email (don't ask), so I'll talk to him separately in case he has an idea B-- Tech1 mailing list Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dave.mdv at btinternet.com Tue Dec 3 04:35:53 2019 From: dave.mdv at btinternet.com (dave.mdv) Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2019 10:35:53 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] "Oregon FBI Tech Tuesday: Securing Smart TVs" Message-ID: <4071fd51-606a-7994-6755-3384fdaf0555@btinternet.com> Whatever next? Cheers, Dave. https://www.fbi.gov/contact-us/field-offices/portland/news/press-releases/tech-tuesdaysmart-tvs/layout_view From rogerbunce at btinternet.com Tue Dec 3 04:44:56 2019 From: rogerbunce at btinternet.com (ROGER BUNCE) Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2019 10:44:56 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Tech1] For those who worked on Doctor Who References: <628987022.14936909.1575369896741.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <628987022.14936909.1575369896741@mail.yahoo.com> Hi All, Toby Hadoke is assembling his annual 'In Memorium' tribute to those who have contributed to 'Doctor Who', and have died this year. He is lacking photos of the following: John Lintern, Gordon Mackie, Colin Widgery, Winnie Hopkins (P.A.). and Bob Eltringham (Dresser). He already has Rodney Taylor and Alan Kerridge. If anyone has any such photos, please could you forward them? 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Cheers, Dave. > > https://www.fbi.gov/contact-us/field-offices/portland/news/press-releases/tech-tuesdaysmart-tvs/layout_view > > -- > Tech1 mailing list > Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: airpods.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 28018 bytes Desc: not available URL: From pat.heigham at amps.net Tue Dec 3 07:14:37 2019 From: pat.heigham at amps.net (patheigham) Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2019 13:14:37 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] "Oregon FBI Tech Tuesday: Securing Smart TVs" In-Reply-To: <4071fd51-606a-7994-6755-3384fdaf0555@btinternet.com> References: <4071fd51-606a-7994-6755-3384fdaf0555@btinternet.com> Message-ID: <5de65fbe.1c69fb81.5d079.023a@mx.google.com> Maybe someone?s looking out for us in this age of ?Big Brother? Glad to see that Oregon FBI advise a piece of black tape across the inbuilt lens ? we used to call it a lens cap? Avast keeps trying to sell me some form of video protection, ?do you want to see what hackers can?? Effectively, Avast is switching to my laptop camera!!! A mask across the lens is cheaper! Wasn?t there a ?Not the Nine-O?Clock News? sketch, where the studio presenters could see back into the viewer?s room? Pat Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: dave.mdv via Tech1 Sent: 03 December 2019 10:36 To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk Subject: [Tech1] "Oregon FBI Tech Tuesday: Securing Smart TVs" Whatever next? Cheers, Dave. https://www.fbi.gov/contact-us/field-offices/portland/news/press-releases/tech-tuesdaysmart-tvs/layout_view -- Tech1 mailing list Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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He is lacking photos of the following: John Lintern, Gordon Mackie, Colin Widgery, Winnie Hopkins (P.A.). and Bob Eltringham (Dresser). He already has Rodney Taylor and Alan Kerridge. If anyone has any such photos, please could you forward them? Other behind-the-scenes names on the list, include: Terrance Dicks (script editor and writer), L ?Rowland Warne (Costume) and Tex Childs (Grip). luv, Rog.? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From geoff.hawkes134 at gmail.com Wed Dec 4 04:43:59 2019 From: geoff.hawkes134 at gmail.com (Geoffrey Hawkes) Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2019 10:43:59 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Scams Message-ID: <55899601-301E-4282-9220-0498FFD63E15@gmail.com> Another of those occasional nuisance calls came in yesterday when a ?helpful? voice said they?d been informed that I?d had an accident recently which wasn?t my fault and asked me for details. I asked what their source of information was and they said it came from the ?accident report centre?, as if. I then went into my ?Why don?t you get an honest job? routine which promptly had them ending the call. Do any of you know what their game is and whether they are some kind of ambulance chasing, no win, no fee business or what? I?ve never got far enough into a conversation with them to find out and had nothing to tell them if I did, Geoff Hawkes From paul at pgtmedia.co.uk Wed Dec 4 04:52:06 2019 From: paul at pgtmedia.co.uk (Paul Thackray) Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2019 10:52:06 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Scams In-Reply-To: <55899601-301E-4282-9220-0498FFD63E15@gmail.com> References: <55899601-301E-4282-9220-0498FFD63E15@gmail.com> Message-ID: <084f5e7e-4507-37f0-92c0-4f1eda9c3172@pgtmedia.co.uk> Hi Geof, Yes its passed on to a 'no win, no fee business' I tell that I have had an accident, but unfortunately died in the accident.. That really confuses them! Where its a human, not a machine that does voice recognition the longer you keep them on the phone , giving them no info and agreeing to nothing , the less other unsuspecting people they can ring and scam....If your not busy, keep them talking. Paul On 04/12/2019 10:43, Geoffrey Hawkes via Tech1 wrote: > no win, no fee business -- Paul Thackray PGT Media Consulting Ltd. +44 7802 243979 Mail; paul at pgtmedia.co.uk Web; http://www.pgtmedia.co.uk Linkedin; http://uk.linkedin.com/pub/paul-thackray/19/379/746 IMDB; http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1488554/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Avast keeps trying to sell me some form of video protection, ?do you want to see what hackers can?? Effectively, Avast is switching to my laptop camera!!! A mask across the lens is cheaper! Wasn?t there a ?Not the Nine-O?Clock News? sketch, where the studio presenters could see back into the viewer?s room? Pat Sent from Mail for Windows 10 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Effectively, Avast is switching to my >> laptop camera!!! A mask across the lens is cheaper! >> >> Wasn?t there a ?Not the Nine-O?Clock News? sketch, where the studio >> presenters could see back into the viewer?s room? >> >> Pat >> >> Sent from Mail for >> Windows 10 >> > -- Paul Thackray PGT Media Consulting Ltd. +44 7802 243979 Mail; paul at pgtmedia.co.uk Web; http://www.pgtmedia.co.uk Linkedin; http://uk.linkedin.com/pub/paul-thackray/19/379/746 IMDB; http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1488554/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From waresound at msn.com Wed Dec 4 07:32:20 2019 From: waresound at msn.com (Nick Ware) Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2019 13:32:20 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] "Oregon FBI Tech Tuesday: Securing Smart TVs" In-Reply-To: References: <4071fd51-606a-7994-6755-3384fdaf0555@btinternet.com> <5de65fbe.1c69fb81.5d079.023a@mx.google.com> , Message-ID: Yep. That?s the way I would do it too! Nick. Sent from my iPad mini 5 On 4 Dec 2019, at 11:55, Paul Thackray via Tech1 wrote: ? Or this version that does about 50 PC webcams for less than a quid? https://www.amazon.co.uk/Faithfull-2702-Elect-Tape-19Mm/dp/B0001IXA6C/ref=sr_1_12?crid=EITPG5PA800V&keywords=black+electrical+tape&qid=1575460405&sprefix=black+electrical%2Caps%2C239&sr=8-12 On 04/12/2019 11:35, Nick Ware via Tech1 wrote: Maybe if you are worried about random people seeing what you?re up to on your laptop Pat, et al, this is what you need: https://tinyurl.com/vfo23hq It?s always encouraging to know that no matter how complex and sophisticated technology gets, there?s often a childishly simple mechanical alternative that can do the job just as well, or better. Cheers, Nick. Sent from my iPad mini 5 On 3 Dec 2019, at 13:15, patheigham via Tech1 wrote: ? Maybe someone?s looking out for us in this age of ?Big Brother? Glad to see that Oregon FBI advise a piece of black tape across the inbuilt lens ? we used to call it a lens cap? Avast keeps trying to sell me some form of video protection, ?do you want to see what hackers can?? Effectively, Avast is switching to my laptop camera!!! A mask across the lens is cheaper! Wasn?t there a ?Not the Nine-O?Clock News? sketch, where the studio presenters could see back into the viewer?s room? Pat Sent from Mail for Windows 10 -- Paul Thackray PGT Media Consulting Ltd. +44 7802 243979 Mail; paul at pgtmedia.co.uk Web; http://www.pgtmedia.co.uk Linkedin; http://uk.linkedin.com/pub/paul-thackray/19/379/746 IMDB; http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1488554/ -- Tech1 mailing list Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Ringo has a fabulous mansion and estate here in Cranleigh that has two huge Christmas star decorations on the front gates, and is currently up for sale for a snip at ?10M. Maybe I?ll knock on his door and ask if he?s still got the camera! Cheers, Nick. Sent from my iPad mini 5 On 4 Dec 2019, at 21:17, Gary Critcher via Tech1 wrote: ? Lads, I came across this photo of Ringo Starr earlier today. Taken during the January 1969 sessions that finally produced their 'Let It Be' film and album. Now, that doesn't look like a cine film camera to me, but some sort of early video camera. What do you think? all the best, Gary C ----- [cid:b5ebdf89-d665-9b41-7752-44b23401149e at yahoo.com]-- Tech1 mailing list Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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The vidicon stems from the early 50s, and was thought too inferior for most broadcast purposes (except things like rostrum cameras) but quite large numbers of (transistorised) cameras were around. I was asked to mend one in the? mid 60s that had been used in a night club - the tube had died of old age. Similarly with TV recording. Although Ampex quad got there first helical scan was only about three years behind. Perfectly acceptable sub-broadcast B&W? recorders were around from the early 60s, so Ringo's 1969 gear was "v2.0" in modern parlance. Chris Woolf > >> On 4 Dec 2019, at 21:17, Gary Critcher via Tech1 >> wrote: >> >> ? >> Lads, I came across this photo of Ringo Starr earlier today. >> ?Taken during the January 1969 sessions that finally produced their >> 'Let It Be' film and album. >> ?Now, that doesn't look like a cine film camera to me, but some sort >> of early video camera. >> What do you think? >> >> all the best, >> ? Gary C >> ----- >> >> -- >> Tech1 mailing list >> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk >> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 2019-12-03 20.58.19.png Type: image/png Size: 1735105 bytes Desc: not available URL: From robin.sutherland at ukgateway.net Thu Dec 5 05:32:01 2019 From: robin.sutherland at ukgateway.net (Robin Sutherland) Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2019 11:32:01 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Still from Cilla Black Show Message-ID: <8F9955BC-C0D8-4FD4-BE75-7ABB7FE238A8@ukgateway.net> I came across this rather nice still from The Cilla Black Show in the Theatre on You Tube which was on a posting of Anyone Who Had A Heart. Pretty sure it?s from 1968 as she?s wearing the same dress on another post, a complete version of Step Inside also taken from the BBC show. Same show? Any ideas who?s on Camera 1? Nice silhouette of the motorised Vinten in the pit and the quadrant speed controller. I remember being the tracker on it for a series of [I think] Billy Cotton on Crew 11 when John Lintern [sorry to hear of his passing] ended up with his head rammed in the viewfinder and covered in glass from the clock on the circle edge when the Mole crew missed a mark. No injuries apart from pride! Happy days. Robin Sutherland -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Pretty sure it?s from 1968 as she?s wearing the same dress on another post, a complete version of Step Inside also taken from the BBC show. Same show? > Any ideas who?s on Camera 1? Nice silhouette of the motorised Vinten in the pit and the quadrant speed controller. > I remember being the tracker on it for a series of [I think] Billy Cotton on Crew 11 when John Lintern [sorry to hear of his passing] ended up with his head rammed in the viewfinder and covered in glass from the clock on the circle edge when the Mole crew missed a mark. No injuries apart from pride! > > Happy days. > > Robin Sutherland > > > > > -- > Tech1 mailing list > Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk From vernon.dyer at btinternet.com Thu Dec 5 08:18:16 2019 From: vernon.dyer at btinternet.com (vernon.dyer) Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2019 14:18:16 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Still from Cilla Black Show Message-ID: Ian Gibb?Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.-------- Original message --------From: Graeme Wall via Tech1 Date: 05/12/2019 11:57 (GMT+00:00) To: Robin Sutherland Cc: Tech ops Subject: Re: [Tech1] Still from Cilla Black Show Senior moment, I think it is Ian (?) senior cameraman on Crew 15, I swung him on the Mole on many Cilla Black shows. I reckon I could still do the moves for the closing number , it was the same every week!? Graeme Wall> On 5 Dec 2019, at 11:32, Robin Sutherland via Tech1 wrote:> > I came across this rather nice still from The Cilla Black Show in the Theatre on You Tube which was on a posting of Anyone Who Had A Heart. Pretty sure it?s from 1968 as she?s wearing the same dress on another post, a complete version of Step Inside also taken from the BBC show. Same show?> Any ideas who?s on Camera 1? Nice silhouette of the motorised Vinten in the pit and the quadrant speed controller. > I remember being the tracker on it for a series of [I think] Billy Cotton on Crew 11 when John Lintern [sorry to hear of his passing] ended up with his head rammed in the viewfinder and covered in glass from the clock on the circle edge when the Mole crew missed a mark. No injuries apart from pride!> > Happy days.> > Robin Sutherland > > > > > -- > Tech1 mailing list> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk-- Tech1 mailing listTech1 at tech-ops.co.ukhttp://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From neil at dormand.eclipse.co.uk Thu Dec 5 16:40:20 2019 From: neil at dormand.eclipse.co.uk (Neil Dormand) Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2019 22:40:20 -0000 Subject: [Tech1] Still from Cilla Black Show In-Reply-To: <8F9955BC-C0D8-4FD4-BE75-7ABB7FE238A8@ukgateway.net> References: <8F9955BC-C0D8-4FD4-BE75-7ABB7FE238A8@ukgateway.net> Message-ID: Robin I took this picture. Against the rules I know. The same shot is posted on the original tech ops site Bernie set up. http://www.tech-ops.co.uk/page23.html . The camera 1 was John Lintern. Crew 11. We did the whole series if I remember rightly. I usually swung or tracked the mole. Don?t know how it got on youtube, probably nicked from tech ops site. As you say happy days. Neil From: Tech1 [mailto:tech1-bounces at tech-ops.co.uk] On Behalf Of Robin Sutherland via Tech1 Sent: 05 December 2019 11:32 To: TechOps Forum Subject: [Tech1] Still from Cilla Black Show I came across this rather nice still from The Cilla Black Show in the Theatre on You Tube which was on a posting of Anyone Who Had A Heart. Pretty sure it?s from 1968 as she?s wearing the same dress on another post, a complete version of Step Inside also taken from the BBC show. Same show? Any ideas who?s on Camera 1? Nice silhouette of the motorised Vinten in the pit and the quadrant speed controller. I remember being the tracker on it for a series of [I think] Billy Cotton on Crew 11 when John Lintern [sorry to hear of his passing] ended up with his head rammed in the viewfinder and covered in glass from the clock on the circle edge when the Mole crew missed a mark. No injuries apart from pride! Happy days. Robin Sutherland cid:image001.jpg at 01D5ABBA.DA1EDC60 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 191636 bytes Desc: not available URL: From waresound at msn.com Fri Dec 6 08:31:32 2019 From: waresound at msn.com (Nick Ware) Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2019 14:31:32 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Fw: Ringo pic In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: [cid:68347A62-56DD-46AF-950D-7F750656B4FB-L0-001] So I tried knocking, and the doorbell, but I don?t think he heard me. ? Or as Loyd would have said: ?Who would live in a house like this?? (If I could have a tenner for every time I recorded him saying that, I could afford ..... Oh, but I did, - should have saved it.). N.W. Sent from my iPad mini 5 On 4 Dec 2019, at 22:58, Nick Ware wrote: ? That was a Sony 1/2? vidicon b&w camera, connected by cable to a helical scan 1/2? [snip]. A tape that I?d love to be able to play. Ringo has a fabulous mansion and estate here in Cranleigh that has two huge Christmas star decorations on the front gates, and is currently up for sale for a snip at ?10M. Maybe I?ll knock on his door and ask if he?s still got the camera! Cheers, Nick. Sent from my iPad mini 5 On 4 Dec 2019, at 21:17, Gary Critcher via Tech1 wrote: ? Lads, I came across this photo of Ringo Starr earlier today. Taken during the January 1969 sessions that finally produced their 'Let It Be' film and album. Now, that doesn't look like a cine film camera to me, but some sort of early video camera. What do you think? all the best, Gary C ----- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Geoff F On Sat, 7 Dec 2019 at 15:47, Tony Scott via Tech1 wrote: > Isn't it Roger Fenna? > > On Sat, 7 Dec 2019, 15:30 ROGER BUNCE via Tech1, > wrote: > >> Hi All, >> >> Does anyone have contact details for Roger Fenner. >> >> This is another request from Toby Haydoke, trying to reach people who >> worked on 'Doctor Who'. >> >> luv, Rog. >> -- >> Tech1 mailing list >> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk >> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk >> > -- > Tech1 mailing list > Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ohbytheway.tv at gmail.com Tue Dec 10 04:46:59 2019 From: ohbytheway.tv at gmail.com (David Denness) Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2019 10:46:59 -0000 Subject: [Tech1] Sound drinks Message-ID: <000001d5af47$2703ffd0$750bff70$@gmail.com> Apologies to whom it may concern: I, Dave D, will not be able to attend for drinks in Maidenhead this lunchtime. 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(See below) So, the original question I should have asked is - Can anyone send me a photo of Reg Poulter, in electronic form, large enough to fill a screen, at reasonable quality? luv, Rog. ----- Forwarded message ----- From: ROGER BUNCE via Tech1 To: Tech-Ops-chit-chat Sent: Tuesday, 10 December 2019, 21:24:02 GMTSubject: [Tech1] Reg Poulter Does anyone have a photo of Reg Poulter? I have a feeling he appeared recently, in one of our conversations, but I can't remember where, when or why. luv, Rog.-- Tech1 mailing list Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I thought I'd seen one on this > mailing list recently, but then I realised, 'Oh No, It was on Facebook!' > and it was just another grotty little thumbnail. (See below) > > So, the original question I should have asked is - Can anyone send me a > photo of Reg Poulter, in electronic form, large enough to fill a screen, at > reasonable quality? > > luv, Rog. > > [image: Inline image] > ----- Forwarded message ----- > *From:* ROGER BUNCE via Tech1 > *To:* Tech-Ops-chit-chat > *Sent:* Tuesday, 10 December 2019, 21:24:02 GMT > *Subject:* [Tech1] Reg Poulter > > Does anyone have a photo of Reg Poulter? 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Dave Newbitt. -----Original Message----- From: Dave Buckley via Tech1 Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2019 7:20 PM To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk Subject: [Tech1] A piece of woddstock grove history I was sent this link by my old boss, John Symons........... reuters.screenocean.com/record/227339 (the film is mute for some reason) It is a film taken in October 1966 of the original Overseas training studio in Woodstock Grove. There were two or three overseas courses a year until around the early 1970s when the studio started to be used for BBC staff training. It went colour in 1975 and the studio was used for both BBC and overseas courses, although the number of OS courses reduced and came to an end by about 1980. Most of you in this group will recognise John Eden who starts the film, with John Symons appearing when the group go into the gallery. Enjoy, Dave Buckley Also attached is a photo of the gallery after the studio went colour. -- Tech1 mailing list Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk From bernie833 at gmail.com Sat Dec 14 09:01:29 2019 From: bernie833 at gmail.com (Bernard Newnham) Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2019 15:01:29 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Fwd: Mike Chislett In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <032aae85-73e8-2973-e8ef-b3a5aa3cae2b@gmail.com> FW From Nicholas Moore - I have just received a Christmas card from Gill Chislett, unfortunately it contained bad news. Mike passed away in May after a short illness, it appears to have gone under the radar. Mike had moved to Warwickshire some time ago to be near his family and we sent each other Christmas cards each year. I am sure a number of this group will remember Mike, when he was appointed as a TM he was the youngest ever, and was an incredibly popular TM / Co-ordinator. Best wishes and Merry Christmas to all /Nicholas C Moore /_ >>> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mibridge at mac.com Sat Dec 14 09:14:36 2019 From: mibridge at mac.com (Mike Giles) Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2019 15:14:36 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Fwd: Mike Chislett In-Reply-To: <032aae85-73e8-2973-e8ef-b3a5aa3cae2b@gmail.com> References: <032aae85-73e8-2973-e8ef-b3a5aa3cae2b@gmail.com> Message-ID: <7540043D-BEE6-416B-93D9-E00B435442EF@mac.com> Are you able to share a postal or e-mail address for Mike?s family, Nick? If so, would it be appropriate, do you think, to send belated condolences? One of nature?s finest - very competent, Mike, as well as being popular. Not a trace of self-aggrandisement - he just got on with his job and helped you get on with yours. It was Mike, I believe, who organised the sale of the General Election Mitsubishi TV?s to staff, in whichever year. I bought two and very good they were for their day. 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I am sure a number of this group will remember Mike, when he was appointed as a TM he was the youngest ever, and was an incredibly popular TM / Co-ordinator. ? Best wishes and Merry Christmas to all ? Nicholas C Moore >>> ? -- Tech1 mailing list Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From waresound at msn.com Sat Dec 14 13:47:34 2019 From: waresound at msn.com (Nick Ware) Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2019 19:47:34 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] KISS-cam Message-ID: What do you do when you get there and find you?ve forgotten the bit that you can?t do without? Love it! Cheers, Nick. [cid:D910541F-B44C-4576-96F2-24283562D239] Sent from my iPad mini 5 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Graeme Wall > On 14 Dec 2019, at 19:47, Nick Ware via Tech1 wrote: > > What do you do when you get there and find you?ve forgotten the bit that you can?t do without? > Love it! > Cheers, > Nick. > > Sent from my iPad mini 5 > -- > Tech1 mailing list > Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk From dave.mdv at btinternet.com Sun Dec 15 17:08:58 2019 From: dave.mdv at btinternet.com (dave.mdv) Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2019 23:08:58 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Christmas Message-ID: Our house is now decorated and lit according to tradition, 12 days before Christmas until 12 days after. Some new people on my road had their lights up on December 1st.! Next door to them, more new people have put white lights all round every window and door which keep flashing on and off, making Blackpool seem much closer to Surrey! Are there no standards anymore? Yours, grumpily, Dave From waresound at msn.com Mon Dec 16 04:41:56 2019 From: waresound at msn.com (Nick Ware) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2019 10:41:56 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Christmas In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I sense in my bones, Dave, that you might agree with me that the ultimate in bad taste is cold white Christmas lights. That?s of course if I?m allowed to use the C word. ?Winter lights? it is now, I?m told. Cranleigh village has cold white and blue lights throughout, and as I see it, there?s nothing welcoming or warming about them at all. A great display, but why cold white and blue? There, I got that off my chest! [PS - no offence intended for people here with cold white lights. Needless to say, you are the exception!] Cheers, Nick. Sent from my iPad mini 5 > On 15 Dec 2019, at 23:09, dave.mdv via Tech1 wrote: > > ?Our house is now decorated and lit according to tradition, 12 days before Christmas until 12 days after. Some new people on my road had their lights up on December 1st.! Next door to them, more new people have put white lights all round every window and door which keep flashing on and off, making Blackpool seem much closer to Surrey! Are there no standards anymore? Yours, grumpily, Dave > > -- > Tech1 mailing list > Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk From chris at chriswoolf.co.uk Mon Dec 16 05:50:05 2019 From: chris at chriswoolf.co.uk (Chris Woolf) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2019 11:50:05 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Christmas In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <25a86e15-7109-ecff-6eb8-4efd003693dc@chriswoolf.co.uk> Oh come on Nick, I know what you ~really~ hanker after - an auto-inflating Santa on the roof, and a flock of plastic reindeer on the lawn with 6000?K LEDs lighting their ears, and flashing red noses. No need to pretend to us - you're among friends (!) - you can come out of the closet. Chris Woolf (Who heartily agrees that the whole point of Winter festivities is warmth - only reprehensible ice-queens go for the chilly blue look) On 16/12/2019 10:41, Nick Ware via Tech1 wrote: > I sense in my bones, Dave, that you might agree with me that the ultimate in bad taste is cold white Christmas lights. That?s of course if I?m allowed to use the C word. ?Winter lights? it is now, I?m told. > Cranleigh village has cold white and blue lights throughout, and as I see it, there?s nothing welcoming or warming about them at all. A great display, but why cold white and blue? > There, I got that off my chest! > [PS - no offence intended for people here with cold white lights. Needless to say, you are the exception!] > Cheers, > Nick. > > Sent from my iPad mini 5 > >> On 15 Dec 2019, at 23:09, dave.mdv via Tech1 wrote: >> >> ?Our house is now decorated and lit according to tradition, 12 days before Christmas until 12 days after. Some new people on my road had their lights up on December 1st.! Next door to them, more new people have put white lights all round every window and door which keep flashing on and off, making Blackpool seem much closer to Surrey! Are there no standards anymore? Yours, grumpily, Dave >> >> -- >> Tech1 mailing list >> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk >> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk From waresound at msn.com Mon Dec 16 06:31:58 2019 From: waresound at msn.com (Nick Ware) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2019 12:31:58 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Christmas In-Reply-To: <25a86e15-7109-ecff-6eb8-4efd003693dc@chriswoolf.co.uk> References: , <25a86e15-7109-ecff-6eb8-4efd003693dc@chriswoolf.co.uk> Message-ID: Ah, but there?s a problem with the auto-inflating Santa on the roof: no chimney pots!! Cheers, Nick. Sent from my iPad mini 5 > On 16 Dec 2019, at 11:50, Chris Woolf via Tech1 wrote: > > ?Oh come on Nick, > > I know what you ~really~ hanker after - an auto-inflating Santa on the roof, and a flock of plastic reindeer on the lawn with 6000?K LEDs lighting their ears, and flashing red noses. > > No need to pretend to us - you're among friends (!) - you can come out of the closet. > > Chris Woolf > > (Who heartily agrees that the whole point of Winter festivities is warmth - only reprehensible ice-queens go for the chilly blue look) > > >> On 16/12/2019 10:41, Nick Ware via Tech1 wrote: >> I sense in my bones, Dave, that you might agree with me that the ultimate in bad taste is cold white Christmas lights. That?s of course if I?m allowed to use the C word. ?Winter lights? it is now, I?m told. >> Cranleigh village has cold white and blue lights throughout, and as I see it, there?s nothing welcoming or warming about them at all. A great display, but why cold white and blue? >> There, I got that off my chest! >> [PS - no offence intended for people here with cold white lights. Needless to say, you are the exception!] >> Cheers, >> Nick. >> >> Sent from my iPad mini 5 >> >>>> On 15 Dec 2019, at 23:09, dave.mdv via Tech1 wrote: >>> >>> ?Our house is now decorated and lit according to tradition, 12 days before Christmas until 12 days after. Some new people on my road had their lights up on December 1st.! Next door to them, more new people have put white lights all round every window and door which keep flashing on and off, making Blackpool seem much closer to Surrey! Are there no standards anymore? Yours, grumpily, Dave >>> >>> -- >>> Tech1 mailing list >>> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk >>> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk > > -- > Tech1 mailing list > Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk From dave.mdv at btinternet.com Mon Dec 16 07:36:28 2019 From: dave.mdv at btinternet.com (dave.mdv) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2019 13:36:28 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Christmas In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I certainly do, Nick, I'm proud to say that all my illuminations are with 'lights of colour' (I think that is now the PC correct way of describing them!) Cheers, Dave From mibridge at mac.com Mon Dec 16 07:46:55 2019 From: mibridge at mac.com (Mike Giles) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2019 13:46:55 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Christmas In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6D83A45B-2B7A-401A-AA59-93A09EE4E41B@mac.com> I?ve always thought it should be hot white lights - the description of warm white seems reasonable, as cooler incandescent bodies are red or yellow, but at the extremes one has ?white heat?. I confess to being one who uses white and blue lights in our front garden - very tastefully placed, of course, with no icicles or nets of lights. On our hedge and on the bushes in the garden, the whiteness is tempered by the reflection from evergreen leaves. Indoors, our Christmas tree ? has multicoloured lights which work for us. My pet hate is flashing lights and I had to give away one set which defaulted to frantic flashing every time it was switched on by the photo-cell controlled automatic switch. I?ve left it too late for this year, but I have been intending to copy what I?ve done for our hearth, where we have logs purely for decorative purposes, with red and amber 12volt car LEDs buried in amongst them to give a warming glow. I think the same approach would work well as uplighters in the bushes and trees. ? Mike G > On 16 Dec 2019, at 10:42, Nick Ware via Tech1 wrote: > > ?I sense in my bones, Dave, that you might agree with me that the ultimate in bad taste is cold white Christmas lights. That?s of course if I?m allowed to use the C word. ?Winter lights? it is now, I?m told. > Cranleigh village has cold white and blue lights throughout, and as I see it, there?s nothing welcoming or warming about them at all. A great display, but why cold white and blue? > There, I got that off my chest! > [PS - no offence intended for people here with cold white lights. Needless to say, you are the exception!] > Cheers, > Nick. > > Sent from my iPad mini 5 > >> On 15 Dec 2019, at 23:09, dave.mdv via Tech1 wrote: >> >> ?Our house is now decorated and lit according to tradition, 12 days before Christmas until 12 days after. Some new people on my road had their lights up on December 1st.! Next door to them, more new people have put white lights all round every window and door which keep flashing on and off, making Blackpool seem much closer to Surrey! Are there no standards anymore? Yours, grumpily, Dave >> >> -- >> Tech1 mailing list >> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk >> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk > -- > Tech1 mailing list > Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk From pat.heigham at amps.net Mon Dec 16 09:07:33 2019 From: pat.heigham at amps.net (patheigham) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2019 15:07:33 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Christmas In-Reply-To: References: , <25a86e15-7109-ecff-6eb8-4efd003693dc@chriswoolf.co.uk> Message-ID: <5df79db4.1c69fb81.dc62c.d970@mx.google.com> I have a ladyfriend (travelling companion...) who loves tacky Christmas ? the tackier the better! One year she invited me to her darkened kitchen and clapped her hands ? immediately a ghostly Puppet lit up and bounced up and down on a string, playing an apology for a carol! She would definitely be a candidate for inflatable Santa (+ sleigh and reindeer on the roof!). However ? one year I happened to be in Newcastle approaching Christmas and the main street was decorated with Christmas lights etc. At the very end of the street, perfectly positioned, was a tower crane for a new development. The builders had fitted the jib with Santa?s sleigh, plus reindeers, and picked out with perimeter lights, leaving the orientation so that it appeared to be flying over the city. Brilliant! Pat Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Nick Ware via Tech1 Sent: 16 December 2019 12:32 To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk Subject: Re: [Tech1] Christmas Ah, but there?s a problem with the auto-inflating Santa on the roof: no chimney pots!! Cheers, Nick. Sent from my iPad mini 5 > On 16 Dec 2019, at 11:50, Chris Woolf via Tech1 wrote: > > ?Oh come on Nick, > > I know what you ~really~ hanker after - an auto-inflating Santa on the roof, and a flock of plastic reindeer on the lawn with 6000?K LEDs lighting their ears, and flashing red noses. > > No need to pretend to us - you're among friends (!) - you can come out of the closet. > > Chris Woolf > > (Who heartily agrees that the whole point of Winter festivities is warmth - only reprehensible ice-queens go for the chilly blue look) > > >> On 16/12/2019 10:41, Nick Ware via Tech1 wrote: >> I sense in my bones, Dave, that you might agree with me that the ultimate in bad taste is cold white Christmas lights. That?s of course if I?m allowed to use the C word. ?Winter lights? it is now, I?m told. >> Cranleigh village has cold white and blue lights throughout, and as I see it, there?s nothing welcoming or warming about them at all. A great display, but why cold white and blue? >> There, I got that off my chest! >> [PS - no offence intended for people here with cold white lights. Needless to say, you are the exception!] >> Cheers, >> Nick. >> >> Sent from my iPad mini 5 >> >>>> On 15 Dec 2019, at 23:09, dave.mdv via Tech1 wrote: >>> >>> ?Our house is now decorated and lit according to tradition, 12 days before Christmas until 12 days after. Some new people on my road had their lights up on December 1st.! Next door to them, more new people have put white lights all round every window and door which keep flashing on and off, making Blackpool seem much closer to Surrey! Are there no standards anymore? Yours, grumpily, Dave -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Alan Taylor > On 16 Dec 2019, at 16:27, John Howell via Tech1 wrote: > > ? > Here's one I havn't heard before --> > > When all the planning is competed a Civil Engineering Project is deemed to be 'shovel ready'. > > (groan). > > > > Happy Christmas to one and all, > > John H. > > -- > Tech1 mailing list > Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The builders had fitted the jib with Santa?s > sleigh, > > plus reindeers, and picked out with perimeter lights, leaving the > orientation so that it appeared to be flying over the city. Brilliant! > > Pat > > Sent from Mail for > Windows 10 > > *From: *Nick Ware via Tech1 > *Sent: *16 December 2019 12:32 > *To: *tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > *Subject: *Re: [Tech1] Christmas > > Ah, but there?s a problem with the auto-inflating Santa on the roof: > no chimney pots!! > > Cheers, > > Nick. > > Sent from my iPad mini 5 > > > On 16 Dec 2019, at 11:50, Chris Woolf via Tech1 > wrote: > > > > > > ?Oh come on Nick, > > > > > > I know what you ~really~ hanker after - an auto-inflating Santa on > the roof, and a flock of plastic reindeer on the lawn with 6000?K LEDs > lighting their ears, and flashing red noses. > > > > > > No need to pretend to us - you're among friends (!) - you can come > out of the closet. > > > > > > Chris Woolf > > > > > > (Who heartily agrees that the whole point of Winter festivities is > warmth - only reprehensible ice-queens go for the chilly blue look) > > > > > > > > >> On 16/12/2019 10:41, Nick Ware via Tech1 wrote: > > >> I sense in my bones, Dave, that you might agree with me that the > ultimate in bad taste is cold white Christmas lights. That?s of course > if I?m allowed to use the C word. ?Winter lights? it is now, I?m told. > > >> Cranleigh village has cold white and blue lights throughout, and as > I see it, there?s nothing welcoming or warming about them at all. A > great display, but why cold white and blue? > > >> There, I got that off my chest! > > >> [PS - no offence intended for people here with cold white lights. > Needless to say, you are the exception!] > > >> Cheers, > > >> Nick. > > >> > > >> Sent from my iPad mini 5 > > >> > > >>>> On 15 Dec 2019, at 23:09, dave.mdv via Tech1 > wrote: > > >>> > > >>> ?Our house is now decorated and lit according to tradition, 12 > days before Christmas until 12 days after. Some new people on my road > had their lights up on December 1st.! Next door to them, more new > people have put white lights all round every window and door which > keep flashing on and off, making Blackpool seem much closer to Surrey! > Are there no standards anymore? Yours, grumpily, Dave > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pat.heigham at amps.net Mon Dec 16 11:51:32 2019 From: pat.heigham at amps.net (patheigham) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2019 17:51:32 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Another phrase you'll love to hate In-Reply-To: <067131D8-C19E-4951-93CF-A805171718AD@me.com> References: <3bdbdd4b-28a6-4941-b018-9cf17a24c5f0@howell61.f9.co.uk> <067131D8-C19E-4951-93CF-A805171718AD@me.com> Message-ID: <5df7c424.1c69fb81.1bb23.44a8@mx.google.com> My maximum ?hate? phrase is: ?After the break? on quiz shows when a huge monetary prize depends on a correct answer! And isn?t it irritating when BBC originated programmes get re-run on the digital channels and breaks are inserted where none were planned. No finesse, just chopped in and out. Grrr! Pat P.S. at 77 I?m enjoying being a grumpy old git. Is there a ?Victor Meldrew? club?? Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Alan Taylor via Tech1 Sent: 16 December 2019 17:21 To: Tech-Ops-chit-chat Subject: Re: [Tech1] Another phrase you'll love to hate I once worked with a rather annoying director ( OK, I?ve worked with quite a few annoying directors, but with ?this particular annoying director only once ). ?When he believed that every department might be ready for a take, he would ask ?Are you red light ready?? ? ? Alan Taylor On 16 Dec 2019, at 16:27, John Howell via Tech1 wrote: ? Here's one I havn't heard before --> When all the planning is competed a Civil Engineering Project is deemed to be 'shovel ready'. (groan). Happy Christmas to one and all, John H. -- Tech1 mailing list Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pat.heigham at amps.net Mon Dec 16 12:19:13 2019 From: pat.heigham at amps.net (patheigham) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2019 18:19:13 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Christmas In-Reply-To: References: <25a86e15-7109-ecff-6eb8-4efd003693dc@chriswoolf.co.uk> <5df79db4.1c69fb81.dc62c.d970@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <5df7caa1.1c69fb81.4a21b.3c55@mx.google.com> Well, that?s totally OTT! But inventive. Were there external speakers pumping out the audio in sync for the neighbours to ?enjoy?? I?m reminded of one of the National Lampoons? films ? the Christmas Vacation one, in wonderfully bad taste. I worked on the ?European Vacation? ? great locations around Europe ? London, Paris, Rome, The Dolomites, but the star was a bit of an acquired taste. Regarding synchronised light shows, I watched a firework competition in Toronto ? it was the Italians? night. I was impressed that the fireworks and the audio came from a barge moored offshore on the lake. Care had been taken to calculate the sound delay from the speakers to the shore, and for the rockets? fly time before exploding in perfect sync to the music. Absolutely brilliant! Pat Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: dick via Tech1 Sent: 16 December 2019 17:44 To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk Subject: Re: [Tech1] Christmas here is a video of mine... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VL9dQHMMfo -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alanaudio at me.com Mon Dec 16 13:39:08 2019 From: alanaudio at me.com (Alan Taylor) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2019 19:39:08 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Christmas In-Reply-To: <5df7caa1.1c69fb81.4a21b.3c55@mx.google.com> References: <5df7caa1.1c69fb81.4a21b.3c55@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <7060754B-225F-45D4-AA88-329FA5C74702@me.com> I worked on televising an international firework competition. It was just when computer controlled firing was starting to appear. Nearly every team was using computer control synced to music, but the Spanish team preferred their low tech tried and trusted method, together with a display which consisted almost entirely of rockets because they didn?t care for stationary set pieces on the ground, preferring loads of stuff exploding overhead. Each team was allowed three minutes for their display and the Spanish team planned to get about 10,000 rockets launched in three minutes, synchronised to music. The way they achieved it was to have steel launching racks, holding rows of rockets about 1.5 metres off the ground, there were quite a few of these racks, aligned to aim rockets in particular directions. When the music started, a number of mad Spaniards held a flare in each hand and positioned themselves at the start between a pair of racks of rockets. On their music cue, they started running along the racks at a predetermined speed, the flares lighting all the blue touch papers on both sides as they passed. The rockets were not evenly spaced, some gaps were left in order to adjust the timings. As each mad Spaniard reached the end of the rack, he would turn round and wait for a specific music cue before starting to run down his next pair of racks. They managed to get their ten thousand rockets launched in three spectacular minutes. Unfortunately our scanner was downwind of the launch site. The riggers were loving the display for the first twenty seconds or so until they found themselves on the receiving end of ten thousand rocket sticks landing over the course of three minutes. It was a bit like being a French soldier at Agincourt. The Spanish team fired each rocket in advance of the music so that when they exploded, it was in perfect sync with the music. Nearly all the teams encountered some sort of timing problems, but the Spaniards had no technical hitches at all. Alan Taylor > On 16 Dec 2019, at 18:19, patheigham via Tech1 wrote: > > ? > > Regarding synchronised light shows, I watched a firework competition in Toronto ? it was the Italians? night. I was impressed that the fireworks and the audio came from a barge moored offshore on the lake. Care had been taken to calculate the sound delay from the speakers to the shore, and for the rockets? fly time before exploding in perfect sync to the music. Absolutely brilliant! > Pat > Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > > From: dick via Tech1 > Sent: 16 December 2019 17:44 > To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > Subject: Re: [Tech1] Christmas > > here is a video of mine... > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VL9dQHMMfo > > > > > -- > Tech1 mailing list > Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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When he believed that every department might be ready for a take, he would ask ?Are you red light ready?? > > Alan Taylor > >>> On 16 Dec 2019, at 16:27, John Howell via Tech1 wrote: >>> >> ? >> Here's one I havn't heard before --> >> >> When all the planning is competed a Civil Engineering Project is deemed to be 'shovel ready'. >> >> (groan). >> >> >> >> Happy Christmas to one and all, >> >> John H. >> >> -- >> Tech1 mailing list >> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk >> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk > -- > Tech1 mailing list > Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From phider at gmx.com Tue Dec 17 01:24:33 2019 From: phider at gmx.com (Mr P.J.Hider) Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2019 07:24:33 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Another phrase you'll love to hate Message-ID: On the other hand there were phrases I loved to hear. Rob Walker, a director on a Ruth Rendell Mystery I worked on as Associate Producer, would declare at the end of a successful take "Print the Hummer." He was a big man in both stature and character such that the prop guys, chippie and grip built a throne on camera track for him while shooting some scenes in a large Hampshire garden. He would travel along it like a Roman emporer and could be back at the beginning of the start point in seconds for another take. Happy days. Let me wish all techovians a pleasant Christmas and a Healthy 2020. Peter Hider From graeme.wall at icloud.com Tue Dec 17 02:23:49 2019 From: graeme.wall at icloud.com (Graeme Wall) Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2019 08:23:49 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Another phrase you'll love to hate In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <185E0051-7BBB-47F9-B3B3-8B30FBEEED24@icloud.com> Surely the phrase that everyone loved to hear was ?That?s a wrap?. ? Graeme Wall > On 17 Dec 2019, at 07:24, Mr P.J.Hider via Tech1 wrote: > > On the other hand there were phrases I loved to hear. Rob Walker, a director on a Ruth Rendell Mystery I worked on as Associate Producer, would declare at the end of a successful take "Print the Hummer." He was a big man in both stature and character such that the prop guys, chippie and grip built a throne on camera track for him while shooting some scenes in a large Hampshire garden. He would travel along it like a Roman emporer and could be back at the beginning of the start point in seconds for another take. Happy days. > Let me wish all techovians a pleasant Christmas and a Healthy 2020. > > Peter Hider > -- > Tech1 mailing list > Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk From phider at gmx.com Tue Dec 17 04:41:33 2019 From: phider at gmx.com (Peter Hider) Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2019 11:41:33 +0100 Subject: [Tech1] Another phrase you'll love to hate In-Reply-To: <185E0051-7BBB-47F9-B3B3-8B30FBEEED24@icloud.com> References: <185E0051-7BBB-47F9-B3B3-8B30FBEEED24@icloud.com> Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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As you nay be aware or may have been part of the conversations from the beginning, during early October, we ran focus groups across all home nations to discuss the practical skills and knowledge people need in order to work in camera and lighting related roles in the screen industries. Based on industry feedback gathered at these focus groups, the standards have been redrafted and are available online for the wider industry to look at, check and confirm their validity or make suggestions for changes. The aim is to ensure that the updated suite of standards capture what is currently considered best practice in the industry. Please view the standards and provide feedback using the links below: - Camera Standards - Lighting for Film and TV Standards We encourage you to share this consultation with any colleagues and professionals within your networks who might want to participate. The consultation is open until *midday on 15th January 2020 * Full details can also be found on our website, so please feel to share the link below with your networks: https://www.screenskills.com/insight/news/help-us-improve-the-national-occupational-standards-for-screen-industry-roles/ Once all feedback is collated and standards are updated and published, they are used to inform the development of qualifications, continuing professional development (CPD) training and apprenticeships in these particular areas of the screen industries across all home nations in the UK. These standards can also form the basis of job descriptions, recruitment processes, appraisal processes, professional development plans and training plans for individuals, employers and training companies. Thank you in advance for your time and please do not hesitate to contact us should you have any questions or further comments. We are looking forward to receiving your feedback. Kind regards, Krisztina [image: cid:image001.jpg at 01D556A4.B7C36980] *Krisztina Biliczky* *Standards Development Manager* ScreenSkills, 94 Euston Street, London, NW1 2HA t: +44 (0)20 7713 9800 | d: +44 (0)20 7713 9868 _______________________________________________ Committee mailing list Committee at stld.org.uk http://stld.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/committee_stld.org.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Nearly every team was using computer control synced to music, but the Spanish team preferred their low tech tried and trusted method, together with a display which consisted almost entirely of rockets because they didn?t care for stationary set pieces on the ground, preferring loads of stuff exploding overhead. Each team was allowed three minutes for their display and the Spanish team planned to get about 10,000 rockets launched in three minutes, synchronised to music. The way they achieved it was to have steel launching racks, holding rows of rockets about 1.5 metres off the ground, there were quite a few of these racks, aligned to aim rockets in particular directions. When the music started, a number of mad Spaniards held a flare in each hand and positioned themselves at the start between a pair of racks of rockets. On their music cue, they started running along the racks at a predetermined speed, the flares lighting all the blue touch papers on both sides as they passed. The rockets were not evenly spaced, some gaps were left in order to adjust the timings. As each mad Spaniard reached the end of the rack, he would turn round and wait for a specific music cue before starting to run down his next pair of racks. They managed to get their ten thousand rockets launched in three spectacular minutes. Unfortunately our scanner was downwind of the launch site. The riggers were loving the display for the first twenty seconds or so until they found themselves on the receiving end of ten thousand rocket sticks landing over the course of three minutes. It was a bit like being a French soldier at Agincourt. The Spanish team fired each rocket in advance of the music so that when they exploded, it was in perfect sync with the music. Nearly all the teams encountered some sort of timing problems, but the Spaniards had no technical hitches at all. Alan Taylor On 16 Dec 2019, at 18:19, patheigham via Tech1 > wrote: ? Regarding synchronised light shows, I watched a firework competition in Toronto ? it was the Italians? night. I was impressed that the fireworks and the audio came from a barge moored offshore on the lake. Care had been taken to calculate the sound delay from the speakers to the shore, and for the rockets? fly time before exploding in perfect sync to the music. Absolutely brilliant! Pat Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: dick via Tech1 Sent: 16 December 2019 17:44 To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk Subject: Re: [Tech1] Christmas here is a video of mine... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VL9dQHMMfo -- Tech1 mailing list Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk -- Tech1 mailing list Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On Sat, 21 Dec 2019, 11:09 Steve Edwards via Tech1, wrote: > I watching some Top of the Pops footage from 1974 and wondered what the > person wearing red at the bottom right of the photo is doing: Is this just > a monitor? - It appears to have a cue light with a protective metal cage on > top and he/she can be seen moving it around.... > > > > Steve-- > Tech1 mailing list > Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From chris at chriswoolf.co.uk Sat Dec 21 05:44:08 2019 From: chris at chriswoolf.co.uk (Chris Woolf) Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2019 11:44:08 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] TOTP In-Reply-To: References: <720FDC33-99D8-4A22-81A6-F928A8F95127.ref@btinternet.com> <720FDC33-99D8-4A22-81A6-F928A8F95127@btinternet.com> Message-ID: <0b04893b-8a16-4e85-eafb-f7d5662efafe@chriswoolf.co.uk> LS something - can't remember the numbers now. They were "tracked" on TOTP partly to keep them out of the way of cameras during quick moves. Chris Woolf On 21/12/2019 11:41, Tony Scott via Tech1 wrote: > It looks like sound PA. > > On Sat, 21 Dec 2019, 11:09 Steve Edwards via Tech1, > > wrote: > > I watching some Top of the Pops footage from 1974 and wondered > what the person wearing red at the bottom right of the photo is > doing: Is this just a monitor? - It appears to have a cue light > with a protective metal cage on top and he/she can be seen moving > it around.... > > > > Steve-- > Tech1 mailing list > Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Graeme Wall > On 21 Dec 2019, at 11:41, Tony Scott via Tech1 wrote: > > It looks like sound PA. > > On Sat, 21 Dec 2019, 11:09 Steve Edwards via Tech1, wrote: > I watching some Top of the Pops footage from 1974 and wondered what the person wearing red at the bottom right of the photo is doing: Is this just a monitor? - It appears to have a cue light with a protective metal cage on top and he/she can be seen moving it around.... > > > > Steve-- > Tech1 mailing list > Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk > -- > Tech1 mailing list > Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk From dave at davesound.co.uk Sat Dec 21 05:48:21 2019 From: dave at davesound.co.uk (Dave Plowman) Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2019 11:48:21 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [Tech1] TOTP In-Reply-To: <720FDC33-99D8-4A22-81A6-F928A8F95127@btinternet.com> References: <720FDC33-99D8-4A22-81A6-F928A8F95127.ref@btinternet.com> <720FDC33-99D8-4A22-81A6-F928A8F95127@btinternet.com> Message-ID: <5825d3f5efdave@davesound.co.uk> That's the standard tracking foldback speaker of the day, and the light on the top merely to show it is switched on. It would be carrying either the full balance if mimed, or a backing track if live vocals, or even some of a live orchestra like the rhythm. The speaker is manned so it can be moved to the best position for each stage. These days you'd use wedges on stage for the same job - and or in ear monitoring. In article <720FDC33-99D8-4A22-81A6-F928A8F95127 at btinternet.com>, Steve Edwards via Tech1 wrote: > #I watching some Top of the Pops footage from 1974 and wondered what the person wearing red at the bottom right of the photo is doing: Is this just a monitor? - It appears to have a cue light with a protective metal cage on top and he/she can be seen moving it around.... -- *I didn't fight my way to the top of the food chain to be a vegetarian. Dave Plowman dave at davesound.co.uk London SW 12 From dave at davesound.co.uk Sat Dec 21 06:18:49 2019 From: dave at davesound.co.uk (Dave Plowman) Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2019 12:18:49 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [Tech1] TOTP In-Reply-To: <0b04893b-8a16-4e85-eafb-f7d5662efafe@chriswoolf.co.uk> References: <720FDC33-99D8-4A22-81A6-F928A8F95127.ref@btinternet.com> <720FDC33-99D8-4A22-81A6-F928A8F95127@btinternet.com> <0b04893b-8a16-4e85-eafb-f7d5662efafe@chriswoolf.co.uk> Message-ID: <5825d6c00fdave@davesound.co.uk> In article <0b04893b-8a16-4e85-eafb-f7d5662efafe at chriswoolf.co.uk>, Chris Woolf via Tech1 wrote: > LS something - can't remember the numbers now. IIRC, LS3/1A. OB version of the LS5/1. The concentric tweeter location actually made it quite a decent speaker for stereo - unlike the LS5/1. -- *Someday, we'll look back on this, laugh nervously and change the subject Dave Plowman dave at davesound.co.uk London SW 12 From barrybonner119 at btinternet.com Sat Dec 21 07:04:11 2019 From: barrybonner119 at btinternet.com (Barry Bonner) Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2019 13:04:11 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] TOTP In-Reply-To: <720FDC33-99D8-4A22-81A6-F928A8F95127@btinternet.com> References: <720FDC33-99D8-4A22-81A6-F928A8F95127.ref@btinternet.com> <720FDC33-99D8-4A22-81A6-F928A8F95127@btinternet.com> Message-ID: Hi Steve, It?s a tracking foldback speaker fed with the backing tracks or orchestra. Red light indicates it?s powered. Cage over the light was to stop Ron Peveral craning down on your fingers again! OUCH! Barry. On 21 Dec 2019, at 11:09, Steve Edwards via Tech1 wrote: > I watching some Top of the Pops footage from 1974 and wondered what the person wearing red at the bottom right of the photo is doing: Is this just a monitor? - It appears to have a cue light with a protective metal cage on top and he/she can be seen moving it around.... > > > > Steve-- > Tech1 mailing list > Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ian.hillson at gmail.com Sat Dec 21 07:17:54 2019 From: ian.hillson at gmail.com (Ian H) Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2019 13:17:54 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] TOTP In-Reply-To: References: <720FDC33-99D8-4A22-81A6-F928A8F95127.ref@btinternet.com> <720FDC33-99D8-4A22-81A6-F928A8F95127@btinternet.com> Message-ID: *"Cage over the light was to stop Ron Peveral craning down on your fingers again"* Underrated tweet ? On Sat, Dec 21, 2019 at 1:04 PM Barry Bonner via Tech1 wrote: > Hi Steve, > It?s a tracking foldback speaker fed with the backing tracks or orchestra. > Red light indicates it?s powered. Cage over the light was to stop Ron > Peveral craning down on your fingers again! OUCH! > Barry. > > > > On 21 Dec 2019, at 11:09, Steve Edwards via Tech1 > wrote: > > I watching some Top of the Pops footage from 1974 and wondered what the > person wearing red at the bottom right of the photo is doing: Is this just > a monitor? - It appears to have a cue light with a protective metal cage on > top and he/she can be seen moving it around.... > > > > Steve-- > Tech1 mailing list > Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk > > > -- > Tech1 mailing list > Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Mike G > On 21 Dec 2019, at 11:42, Tony Scott via Tech1 wrote: > > ? > It looks like sound PA. > >> On Sat, 21 Dec 2019, 11:09 Steve Edwards via Tech1, wrote: >> I watching some Top of the Pops footage from 1974 and wondered what the person wearing red at the bottom right of the photo is doing: Is this just a monitor? - It appears to have a cue light with a protective metal cage on top and he/she can be seen moving it around.... >> >> >> >> Steve-- >> Tech1 mailing list >> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk >> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk > -- > Tech1 mailing list > Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Pat (and I wasn?t in her eyeline) Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Mike Giles via Tech1 Sent: 21 December 2019 13:41 To: Tony Scott Cc: Tech-OpsMailing List Subject: Re: [Tech1] TOTP Yes, it?s an LS3, if my memory serves me right, used as a tracking fold back speaker for ?les artistes?. John Howell has made matchbox sized replica of it.? Mike G -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rogerbunce at btinternet.com Sat Dec 21 10:27:01 2019 From: rogerbunce at btinternet.com (ROGER BUNCE) Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2019 16:27:01 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Tech1] Only Connect In-Reply-To: References: <1841806988.3461178.1576874135893.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1841806988.3461178.1576874135893@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <788629392.3786940.1576945621141@mail.yahoo.com> Hey! How Did You Know?! On Saturday, 21 December 2019, 00:22:18 GMT, Geoff Fletcher wrote: BCU On Fri, 20 Dec 2019 at 20:36, ROGER BUNCE via Tech1 wrote: Question on 'Only Connect Family Special' tonight - What is the fourth term in this series? - 'Mid-Shot'; 'Medium Close-Up'; -? ; -? At last, one we can all get! (although they seem to have missed 'Close Mid-Shot'.) luv, Rog.-- Tech1 mailing list Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rogerbunce at btinternet.com Sat Dec 21 10:33:57 2019 From: rogerbunce at btinternet.com (ROGER BUNCE) Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2019 16:33:57 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Tech1] TOTP In-Reply-To: <5dfe46d4.1c69fb81.719e3.2c18@mx.google.com> References: <7C50729F-B21C-4606-99BA-F9518ABCAEA2@mac.com> <5dfe46d4.1c69fb81.719e3.2c18@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <1241203264.3789192.1576946037646@mail.yahoo.com> Reminds me on an inexperienced Director in Pres. We managed to get him through the rehearsal, but he went to pieces on the take. His excuse: - "I was distracted by that red light. It wasn't there on rehearsals."! On Saturday, 21 December 2019, 16:23:18 GMT, patheigham via Tech1 wrote: Tracking foldback speakers..... I worked on a play and had to look after an LSU10 ? the big blighters and make sure it was in the right place etc. Being busy during rehearsals, I was only on station for the recording. Dame Edith Evans stopped the take, pointed at me with her stick and announced in her quavery ?handbag? voice: ?That man there! He wasn?t there on rehearsal!!? I think she had forgotten her dialogue, and used me as an excuse! Pat (and I wasn?t in her eyeline) ? Sent from Mail for Windows 10 ? From: Mike Giles via Tech1 Sent: 21 December 2019 13:41 To: Tony Scott Cc: Tech-OpsMailing List Subject: Re: [Tech1] TOTP ? Yes, it?s an LS3, if my memory serves me right, used as a tracking fold back speaker for ?les artistes?. ? John Howell has made matchbox sized replica of it.? ? Mike G ? -- Tech1 mailing list Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pat.heigham at amps.net Sat Dec 21 11:24:04 2019 From: pat.heigham at amps.net (patheigham) Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2019 17:24:04 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] TOTP In-Reply-To: <1241203264.3789192.1576946037646@mail.yahoo.com> References: <7C50729F-B21C-4606-99BA-F9518ABCAEA2@mac.com> <5dfe46d4.1c69fb81.719e3.2c18@mx.google.com> <1241203264.3789192.1576946037646@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5dfe5535.1c69fb81.53b6c.76f3@mx.google.com> When talking about professionalism: On a Grandstand one day: David Coleman's perfect professionalism - an event suddenly occurred in a Cricket OB - rapid cue to David to link to the OB, and as he was in the middle of the announcement "so now over to......" Ginge shouted down the talkback "We don't know who the commentator is!" without breaking stride, he finished "....to our man on the spot" Brilliant! I was always rather more hyped up if going live. As a Gram Op, my pressing the play button on the tape deck to start the sig. Music, kicked off everything. Such power! Pat Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: ROGER BUNCE via Tech1 Sent: 21 December 2019 16:34 To: Tech-OpsMailing List Subject: Re: [Tech1] TOTP Reminds me on an inexperienced Director in Pres. We managed to get him through the rehearsal, but he went to pieces on the take. His excuse: - "I was distracted by that red light. It wasn't there on rehearsals."! On Saturday, 21 December 2019, 16:23:18 GMT, patheigham via Tech1 wrote: Tracking foldback speakers..... I worked on a play and had to look after an LSU10 ? the big blighters and make sure it was in the right place etc. Being busy during rehearsals, I was only on station for the recording. Dame Edith Evans stopped the take, pointed at me with her stick and announced in her quavery ?handbag? voice: ?That man there! He wasn?t there on rehearsal!!? I think she had forgotten her dialogue, and used me as an excuse! Pat (and I wasn?t in her eyeline) ? Sent from Mail for Windows 10 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bernie833 at gmail.com Sat Dec 21 11:52:02 2019 From: bernie833 at gmail.com (Bernard Newnham) Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2019 17:52:02 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] TOTP In-Reply-To: <5dfe5535.1c69fb81.53b6c.76f3@mx.google.com> References: <7C50729F-B21C-4606-99BA-F9518ABCAEA2@mac.com> <5dfe46d4.1c69fb81.719e3.2c18@mx.google.com> <1241203264.3789192.1576946037646@mail.yahoo.com> <5dfe5535.1c69fb81.53b6c.76f3@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <68cb4e4a-96e3-3674-25d2-10174dd1a022@gmail.com> The first job I did in Presentation was network director.? Usually you took over from someone else, but some shifts you opened the network. The engineers were in charge of the test card, and they faded it out with 30" to go.? After that it was all down to you. No "Fade up", no BBC2.? Go / No go decisions could be less than a second - a scary job. B On 21/12/2019 17:24, patheigham via Tech1 wrote: > > When talking about professionalism: > > On a Grandstand one day: > > David Coleman's perfect professionalism - an event suddenly occurred > in a Cricket OB - rapid cue to David to link to the OB, and as he was > in the middle of the announcement "so now over to......" Ginge shouted > down the talkback "We don't know who the commentator is!" without > breaking stride, he finished "....to our man on the spot" > > Brilliant! > > I was always rather more hyped up if going live. > > As a Gram Op, my pressing the play button on the tape deck to start > the sig. Music, kicked off everything. > > Such power! > > Pat > > Sent from Mail for > Windows 10 > > *From: *ROGER BUNCE via Tech1 > *Sent: *21 December 2019 16:34 > *To: *Tech-OpsMailing List > *Subject: *Re: [Tech1] TOTP > > Reminds me on an inexperienced Director in Pres. We managed to get him > through the rehearsal, but he went to pieces on the take. His excuse: > - "I was distracted by that red light. It wasn't there on rehearsals."! > > On Saturday, 21 December 2019, 16:23:18 GMT, patheigham via Tech1 > wrote: > > Tracking foldback speakers..... > > I worked on a play and had to look after an LSU10 ? the big blighters > and make sure it was in the right place etc. > > Being busy during rehearsals, I was only on station for the recording. > > Dame Edith Evans stopped the take, pointed at me with her stick and > announced in her quavery ?handbag? voice: > > ?That man there! He wasn?t there on rehearsal!!? > > I think she had forgotten her dialogue, and used me as an excuse! > > Pat (and I wasn?t in her eyeline) > > Sent from Mail for > Windows 10 > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dave.mdv at btinternet.com Sat Dec 21 12:20:50 2019 From: dave.mdv at btinternet.com (dave.mdv) Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2019 18:20:50 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Tracking Foldback In-Reply-To: <5dfe46d4.1c69fb81.719e3.2c18@mx.google.com> References: <7C50729F-B21C-4606-99BA-F9518ABCAEA2@mac.com> <5dfe46d4.1c69fb81.719e3.2c18@mx.google.com> Message-ID: A similar story concerns Dusty Springfield who left the TOTP set in tears and went to her dressing room. Dickie Chamberlain went to find out if there was a sound problem that had caused her such emotion. Eventually she told him that is was the tracking foldback operator 'because he wasn't looking at me!'. Frankie Vaughan was as deaf as a post and the LS3 had to be so close and so loud it made everybody wince! Repeating myself (how unusual!) I was behind the LS3 on the 'Musical Time Machine' with Vince Hill and The Nolans, Stewart Morris was going on about sound stuff on the studio floor when Hugh Barker said to me on sound talkback - 'tell Stewart to worry about the pictures and I'll worry about the sound'. I pressed the reverse talkback button and 'OK, I'll tell him'. Stewart spun round and glared at me and said 'What will you tell me!' If the ground could have opened up I would have been saved! As it was I told him word-for-word what Hugh had said, dreading the outcome, but he just smiled and said 'OK'. Phew! Cheers, Dave From bernie833 at gmail.com Sun Dec 22 05:15:34 2019 From: bernie833 at gmail.com (Bernard Newnham) Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2019 11:15:34 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Gear for sale, very cheap Message-ID: <556dd956-18c4-bec3-5ac6-595afee00192@gmail.com> I have a Blackmagic Intensity Pro for sale - ?20 plus postage. It's a capture and playback card and is ideal for VHS transfers.? It does analogue and component in and out. The reason for selling it is that I can't make it do HD HDMI on my Windows 10 machine - probably because it isn't the latest version? - and in my quest to get good HD results for my U3A video group, I seem to need it to do that. So, after much fiddling with this and other kit, I've bought a new Blackmagic Intensity Shuttle which has solved the problem. So, all you need for VHS transfers, or whatever SD requirements you have, is this, the free desktop video software from the BM website, and free OBS Studio. cheers B -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: llacedeomejddndc.png Type: image/png Size: 198998 bytes Desc: not available URL: From s.k.edwards at btinternet.com Sun Dec 22 07:41:50 2019 From: s.k.edwards at btinternet.com (Steve Edwards) Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2019 13:41:50 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Tracking Foldback References: Message-ID: ?Thank you to everyone for all the replies. I?ve enjoyed reading the informative answers regarding what I now know is a Foldback speaker. ....as usual, the Tech-Ops list has all the answers! Enclosed is another photo - just in case anyone recognises the sound person with the LS3 ..... -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Stewart spun round and glared at me and said 'What will you tell me!' If the ground could have opened up I would have been saved! As it was I told him word-for-word what Hugh had said, dreading the outcome, but he just smiled and said 'OK'. Phew! Cheers, Dave > > -- > Tech1 mailing list > Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk From s.k.edwards at btinternet.com Sun Dec 22 07:41:50 2019 From: s.k.edwards at btinternet.com (Steve Edwards) Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2019 13:41:50 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Tracking Foldback References: Message-ID: ?Thank you to everyone for all the replies. I?ve enjoyed reading the informative answers regarding what I now know is a Foldback speaker. ....as usual, the Tech-Ops list has all the answers! Enclosed is another photo - just in case anyone recognises the sound person with the LS3 ..... -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Stewart spun round and glared at me and said 'What will you tell me!' If the ground could have opened up I would have been saved! As it was I told him word-for-word what Hugh had said, dreading the outcome, but he just smiled and said 'OK'. Phew! Cheers, Dave > > -- > Tech1 mailing list > Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk From dave at davesound.co.uk Sun Dec 22 09:01:56 2019 From: dave at davesound.co.uk (Dave Plowman) Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2019 15:01:56 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [Tech1] Tracking Foldback In-Reply-To: References: <7C50729F-B21C-4606-99BA-F9518ABCAEA2@mac.com> <5dfe46d4.1c69fb81.719e3.2c18@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <582669850adave@davesound.co.uk> I know it was a lowly job in the sound hierarchy, but one I greatly enjoyed doing in the Theatre. Do it well, and you almost became the artist's personal sound man. ;-) In article , dave.mdv via Tech1 wrote: > A similar story concerns Dusty Springfield who left the TOTP set in > tears and went to her dressing room. Dickie Chamberlain went to find out > if there was a sound problem that had caused her such emotion. > Eventually she told him that is was the tracking foldback operator > 'because he wasn't looking at me!'. Frankie Vaughan was as deaf as a > post and the LS3 had to be so close and so loud it made everybody wince! > Repeating myself (how unusual!) I was behind the LS3 on the 'Musical > Time Machine' with Vince Hill and The Nolans, Stewart Morris was going > on about sound stuff on the studio floor when Hugh Barker said to me on > sound talkback - 'tell Stewart to worry about the pictures and I'll > worry about the sound'. I pressed the reverse talkback button and 'OK, > I'll tell him'. Stewart spun round and glared at me and said 'What will > you tell me!' If the ground could have opened up I would have been > saved! As it was I told him word-for-word what Hugh had said, dreading > the outcome, but he just smiled and said 'OK'. Phew! Cheers, Dave -- *60-year-old, one owner - needs parts, make offer Dave Plowman dave at davesound.co.uk London SW 12 From tonynuttall at me.com Tue Dec 24 05:04:41 2019 From: tonynuttall at me.com (William Nuttall) Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2019 11:04:41 -0000 Subject: [Tech1] Just out of Interest to "SOUND PEOPLE" Message-ID: <9fe9e411-a52c-43c0-872c-d9ee295fb713@me.com> Following on from Steve Edwards request for info on the tracking Fold Back speaker on TOTP in 1974. I contacted ?Roger Beckwith at ?Old Radio Broadcast Equipment ?& Memories to see if he had any pics of the LS3/1. Roger had no pictures but he did have the TI on BBC LS's from 1961:- http://www.bbceng.info/ti/non-eqpt/TI_S8_Loudspeakers%20And%20Loudspeaker%20Units.pdf Roger would like to do a page for OREBM on LS's so if you have any pics he would be happy to hear from you. The other area that Roger is working on is the BBC Type B sound desk. Again he is short of pics for the Type B ?Sound Desk . If you have any Roger would be pleased to hear from you. http://www.orbem.co.uk/typeb/typeb1.htm Happy Xmas & a Prosperous New Year to all. Tony N (In the wilds of Cumbria) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On 24/12/2019 20:10, ROGER BUNCE via Tech1 wrote: > Merry Christmas, 1988, from the SODS. > > > And if you can't remember which Health and Safety hazard was > afflicting TV Centre in 1988, you may be able to find it by cracking > the secret message. > > luv, Rog. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From billjenkin67 at gmail.com Tue Dec 24 17:47:19 2019 From: billjenkin67 at gmail.com (Bill Jenkin) Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2019 23:47:19 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Christmas 1988 In-Reply-To: <1953533622.5518368.1577218245792@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1953533622.5518368.1577218245792.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1953533622.5518368.1577218245792@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Is it snowing as asbestos by any chance? On Tue, 24 Dec 2019, 20:11 ROGER BUNCE via Tech1, wrote: > Merry Christmas, 1988, from the SODS. > [image: Inline image] > > And if you can't remember which Health and Safety hazard was afflicting TV > Centre in 1988, you may be able to find it by cracking the secret message. > > luv, Rog. > -- > Tech1 mailing list > Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 1988SODSa.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 365952 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I can assure you that in my case it can certainly give a very close approximation to genuine 'flu, I have never felt so ill in my 81 years! (and, yes, I know it's not Easter that's the other big day!). Why I made the effort is to tell you about the local celebrations here. On a day to celebrate the birth of a baby hopefully bringing peace and love to everyone we have had several very loud explosive fireworks and several which sound like machine-gun fire! What sort of message does that send out? This is an affluent area, the last two houses to be built were priced at ?1.5 million(!) so the people round here shouldn't be morons, but they obviously are! Happy New Year - if we survive that long! I shall retire to my pit. Cheers, Dave From pat.heigham at amps.net Thu Dec 26 10:11:23 2019 From: pat.heigham at amps.net (patheigham) Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2019 16:11:23 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Programme of interest Message-ID: <5e04dbab.1c69fb81.4e096.7769@mx.google.com> Flagging up a programme that might be of interest to anyone who knew Michael Bond, or was on his crew. BBC2 21:00 ? 22:00 Paddington: the Man behind the Bear. A look at how Michael Bond created the amiable bear. Tonight ? Boxing Day 26/12/19 Pat Sent from Mail for Windows 10 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dnewbitt at fireflyuk.net Thu Dec 26 11:58:08 2019 From: dnewbitt at fireflyuk.net (David Newbitt) Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2019 17:58:08 -0000 Subject: [Tech1] Programme of interest In-Reply-To: <5e04dbab.1c69fb81.4e096.7769@mx.google.com> References: <5e04dbab.1c69fb81.4e096.7769@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <1F6674839F5248A389B51E08C3A9C258@DESKTOP6GGCRV1> Thanks Pat ? I was on Mike?s crew for a time so will definitely tune in. Dave Newbitt. From: patheigham via Tech1 Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2019 4:11 PM To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk Subject: [Tech1] Programme of interest Flagging up a programme that might be of interest to anyone who knew Michael Bond, or was on his crew. BBC2 21:00 ? 22:00 Paddington: the Man behind the Bear. A look at how Michael Bond created the amiable bear. Tonight ? Boxing Day 26/12/19 Pat Sent from Mail for Windows 10 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Tech1 mailing list Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I am often saddened by the views of some people in our society these days ? the more so because it is clear that, for many, complete ignorance of the facts of any particular issue does not interfere with them forming the strongest of opinions. I trust you all had a merry time and emerged relatively unscathed! Dave Newbitt. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Mike -----Original Message----- From: Mike Giles via Tech1 Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2019 10:51 PM To: Tech Ops Subject: [Tech1] Petition Many may already know that a petition has just been launched on calling for the government to keep its hands off the BBC Mike G -- Tech1 mailing list Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk From keithwicksuk at gmail.com Fri Dec 27 05:44:38 2019 From: keithwicksuk at gmail.com (Keith Wicks) Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2019 11:44:38 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Petition In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I think this is it: https://www.change.org/p/uk-government-hands-off-our-bbc?recruited_by_id=f9a6f5a0-49ef-0130-1257-3c764e044346 KW On Fri, 27 Dec 2019 at 11:28, Mike Jordan via Tech1 wrote: > Can't see it on their website! Got the full URL? > > Mike > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mike Giles via Tech1 > Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2019 10:51 PM > To: Tech Ops > Subject: [Tech1] Petition > > Many may already know that a petition has just been launched on < > change.org> > calling for the government to keep its hands off the BBC > > Mike G > > -- > Tech1 mailing list > Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk > > > -- > Tech1 mailing list > Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Mike -----Original Message----- From: Mike Giles via Tech1 Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2019 10:51 PM To: Tech Ops Subject: [Tech1] Petition Many may already know that a petition has just been launched on calling for the government to keep its hands off the BBC Mike G -- Tech1 mailing list Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk -- Tech1 mailing list Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk From martin at theeccles.uk Fri Dec 27 05:54:50 2019 From: martin at theeccles.uk (Martin Eccles) Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2019 11:54:50 -0000 Subject: [Tech1] Petiton Message-ID: <004801d5bcac$7207ac80$56170580$@theeccles.uk> 5th one down in "Popular"... https://www.change.org/p/uk-government-hands-off-our-bbc?source_location=pet itions_browse Martin. -----Original Message----- From: Tech1 > On Behalf Of Mike Jordan via Tech1 Sent: 27 December 2019 11:28 To: Mike Giles >; Tech Ops > Subject: Re: [Tech1] Petition Can't see it on their website! Got the full URL? Mike -----Original Message----- From: Mike Giles via Tech1 Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2019 10:51 PM To: Tech Ops Subject: [Tech1] Petition Many may already know that a petition has just been launched on calling for the government to keep its hands off the BBC Mike G -- Tech1 mailing list Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk -- Tech1 mailing list Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From relong at btinternet.com Fri Dec 27 05:57:59 2019 From: relong at btinternet.com (Roger E Long) Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2019 11:57:59 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Petition In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: BBC Licence fee well past 'sell by date', subscription now a recognised model. Non payment of Licence should not be criminal offence (200,000 prosecutions last year) Vital arguments for the survival of the BBC Discuss. Roger Long > On 27 Dec 2019, at 11:44, Keith Wicks via Tech1 wrote: > > I think this is it: > > https://www.change.org/p/uk-government-hands-off-our-bbc?recruited_by_id=f9a6f5a0-49ef-0130-1257-3c764e044346 > > KW > > On Fri, 27 Dec 2019 at 11:28, Mike Jordan via Tech1 > wrote: > Can't see it on their website! 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Mike -----Original Message----- From: Mike Giles via Tech1 Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2019 10:51 PM To: Tech Ops Subject: [Tech1] Petition Many may already know that a petition has just been launched on calling for the government to keep its hands off the BBC Mike G -- Tech1 mailing list Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk -- Tech1 mailing list Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk From dnewbitt at fireflyuk.net Fri Dec 27 06:22:44 2019 From: dnewbitt at fireflyuk.net (David Newbitt) Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2019 12:22:44 -0000 Subject: [Tech1] Petition In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Further to my post re URL, did any of you who have looked at the site see the extent of the " I won't be signing because....." ? Essentially it seems the BBC are a corrupt bunch of morons, not remotely impartial, politically motivated and guilty of stealing money from the public purse. Where in God's name do these perceptions come from? I like many could write a book on the Beeb's shortcomings but I would defend their integrity totally when faced with this type of nasty and untruthful diatribe. Dave Newbitt. -----Original Message----- From: Mike Jordan via Tech1 Sent: Friday, December 27, 2019 11:27 AM To: Mike Giles ; Tech Ops Subject: Re: [Tech1] Petition Can't see it on their website! Got the full URL? Mike -----Original Message----- From: Mike Giles via Tech1 Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2019 10:51 PM To: Tech Ops Subject: [Tech1] Petition Many may already know that a petition has just been launched on calling for the government to keep its hands off the BBC Mike G -- Tech1 mailing list Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk -- Tech1 mailing list Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk From pat.heigham at amps.net Fri Dec 27 07:03:47 2019 From: pat.heigham at amps.net (patheigham) Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2019 13:03:47 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Petition In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5e060133.1c69fb81.35a46.0610@mx.google.com> Yes, I had a look at the comments!! However, it?s a well known fact that any totalitarian government or rebel insurgency needs to take control of the broadcasters, as therein lies the power over the people. Perhaps the Government wants to alter the wording of the BBC?s motto? Pat Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: David Newbitt via Tech1 Sent: 27 December 2019 12:23 To: Mike Jordan; Mike Giles; Tech Ops Subject: Re: [Tech1] Petition Further to my post re URL, did any of you who have looked at the site see the extent of the " I won't be signing because....." ? Essentially it seems the BBC are a corrupt bunch of morons, not remotely impartial, politically motivated and guilty of stealing money from the public purse. Where in God's name do these perceptions come from? I like many could write a book on the Beeb's shortcomings but I would defend their integrity totally when faced with this type of nasty and untruthful diatribe. Dave Newbitt. -----Original Message----- From: Mike Jordan via Tech1 Sent: Friday, December 27, 2019 11:27 AM To: Mike Giles ; Tech Ops Subject: Re: [Tech1] Petition Can't see it on their website! Got the full URL? 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URL: From mibridge at mac.com Fri Dec 27 08:29:09 2019 From: mibridge at mac.com (Mike Giles) Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2019 14:29:09 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Petition In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4BA9D539-E6C3-4FA4-BC02-88202CA7426B@mac.com> On the other hand, there were far more positive comments than the four I found from non-signers. I think it is probably the case that if you listen to your favourite politician being rigorously interviewed on Radio 4, or Newsnight, you may think the interviewer biased, unless you also hear your least favourite one being interviewed, when you will realise that there is equal rigour in both cases, and the many in between. The problem as I see it is that too many people only listen to odd snatches and don?t take the trouble to listen across the spectrum, probably only choosing to listen at all when it?s their own person in the hot seat. And most will certainly base very pedantic opinions on the scanties of evidence or fake news. Mike G > On 27 Dec 2019, at 12:23, David Newbitt wrote: > > ?Further to my post re URL, did any of you who have looked at the site see the extent of the " I won't be signing because....." ? > > Essentially it seems the BBC are a corrupt bunch of morons, not remotely impartial, politically motivated and guilty of stealing money from the public purse. > > Where in God's name do these perceptions come from? I like many could write a book on the Beeb's shortcomings but I would defend their integrity totally when faced with this type of nasty and untruthful diatribe. > > Dave Newbitt. > > -----Original Message----- From: Mike Jordan via Tech1 > Sent: Friday, December 27, 2019 11:27 AM > To: Mike Giles ; Tech Ops > Subject: Re: [Tech1] Petition > > Can't see it on their website! Got the full URL? > > Mike > > -----Original Message----- From: Mike Giles via Tech1 > Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2019 10:51 PM > To: Tech Ops > Subject: [Tech1] Petition > > Many may already know that a petition has just been launched on > calling for the government to keep its hands off the BBC > > Mike G > > -- > Tech1 mailing list > Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk > > > -- > Tech1 mailing list > Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk From dave at davesound.co.uk Fri Dec 27 08:20:28 2019 From: dave at davesound.co.uk (Dave Plowman) Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2019 14:20:28 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [Tech1] Petition In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5828f8e741dave@davesound.co.uk> In article , David Newbitt via Tech1 wrote: > Essentially it seems the BBC are a corrupt bunch of morons, not remotely > impartial, politically motivated and guilty of stealing money from the > public purse. People tend to hear (or read) what they want to hear. The paper which supports their views is impartial. One which opposes them, biased. -- *I don't suffer from insanity -- I'm a carrier Dave Plowman dave at davesound.co.uk London SW 12 From alawrance1 at me.com Fri Dec 27 08:37:52 2019 From: alawrance1 at me.com (Alasdair Lawrance) Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2019 14:37:52 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Petition In-Reply-To: <5e060133.1c69fb81.35a46.0610@mx.google.com> References: <5e060133.1c69fb81.35a46.0610@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <9470120A-C26F-46D9-94B0-8C09FCF36841@me.com> "Perhaps the Government wants to alter the wording of the BBC's motto" Doesn't need to, just ignores it..... Alasdair Lawrance alawrance1 at me.com Don?t blame me, I voted Remain. > On 27 Dec 2019, at 13:03, patheigham via Tech1 wrote: > > Yes, I had a look at the comments!! > However, it?s a well known fact that any totalitarian government or rebel insurgency needs to take control of the broadcasters, as therein lies the power over the people. > Perhaps the Government wants to alter the wording of the BBC?s motto? > > Pat > > Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > > From: David Newbitt via Tech1 > Sent: 27 December 2019 12:23 > To: Mike Jordan ; Mike Giles ; Tech Ops > Subject: Re: [Tech1] Petition > > Further to my post re URL, did any of you who have looked at the site see > the extent of the " I won't be signing because....." ? > > Essentially it seems the BBC are a corrupt bunch of morons, not remotely > impartial, politically motivated and guilty of stealing money from the > public purse. > > Where in God's name do these perceptions come from? I like many could write > a book on the Beeb's shortcomings but I would defend their integrity totally > when faced with this type of nasty and untruthful diatribe. > > Dave Newbitt. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mike Jordan via Tech1 > Sent: Friday, December 27, 2019 11:27 AM > To: Mike Giles ; Tech Ops > Subject: Re: [Tech1] Petition > > Can't see it on their website! 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Roger had no pictures but he did have the TI on BBC LS's from 1961:- http://www.bbceng.info/ti/non-eqpt/TI_S8_Loudspeakers%20And%20Loudspeaker%20Units.pdf Roger would like to do a page for OREBM on LS's so if you have any pics he would be happy to hear from you. The other area that Roger is working on is the BBC Type B sound desk. Again he is short of pics for the Type B Sound Desk . If you have any Roger would be pleased to hear from you. http://www.orbem.co.uk/typeb/typeb1.htm Happy Xmas & a Prosperous New Year to all. Tony N (In the wilds of Cumbria) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Name: image.png Type: image/png Size: 5872142 bytes Desc: not available URL: From waresound at msn.com Fri Dec 27 12:15:40 2019 From: waresound at msn.com (Nick Ware) Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2019 18:15:40 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] BBC Type 2 Sound Desk? In-Reply-To: <001401d5bcd8$a68d8cf0$f3a8a6d0$@gmail.com> References: <001401d5bcd8$a68d8cf0$f3a8a6d0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: It?s a BBC type B alright, but strictly speaking, in today?s terminology it?s only a control surface, because all the electronics was (were?) in racks in the Sound Apparatus Room adjacent to the Sound Control Room. Nit-picky, me? But of course. Best, Nick W. Sent from my iPad mini 5 On 27 Dec 2019, at 17:11, geoff.hawkes134--- via Tech1 wrote: ? Hi William/Tony, Among my photos I have this one I took in about 1970, I think, in either TC2 or 5. I don?t know if it?s a Type B Sound Desk but thought you and or your contact might like to see it. I?m sure it?ll bring back memories to a lot of our old Sound colleagues as well and might prompt a tale or too to amuse us all, Regards, Geoff Hawkes From: Tech1 On Behalf Of William Nuttall via Tech1 Sent: 24 December 2019 11:05 To: Bernard Newnham Cc: Bernard Newnham Subject: [Tech1] Just out of Interest to "SOUND PEOPLE" Following on from Steve Edwards request for info on the tracking Fold Back speaker on TOTP in 1974. I contacted Roger Beckwith at Old Radio Broadcast Equipment & Memories to see if he had any pics of the LS3/1. Roger had no pictures but he did have the TI on BBC LS's from 1961:- http://www.bbceng.info/ti/non-eqpt/TI_S8_Loudspeakers%20And%20Loudspeaker%20Units.pdf Roger would like to do a page for OREBM on LS's so if you have any pics he would be happy to hear from you. The other area that Roger is working on is the BBC Type B sound desk. Again he is short of pics for the Type B Sound Desk . If you have any Roger would be pleased to hear from you. http://www.orbem.co.uk/typeb/typeb1.htm Happy Xmas & a Prosperous New Year to all. Tony N (In the wilds of Cumbria) [cid:4242E353-D0E1-46C8-82C6-78BFFFC49C54]-- Tech1 mailing list Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: BBC sound desk circa 1970.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 598898 bytes Desc: BBC sound desk circa 1970.jpg URL: From waresound at msn.com Fri Dec 27 12:24:59 2019 From: waresound at msn.com (Nick Ware) Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2019 18:24:59 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] BBC LS3/1 Message-ID: https://images.app.goo.gl/DqzR7iTjjNFytK8j9 Google and ye shall find. The ones we had in the studios were mounted on a base containing (I think) a Leak TL10 power amp with a tailored frequency response . The whole thing on casters. Nick. Sent from my iPad mini 5 From dave.mdv at btinternet.com Fri Dec 27 12:36:24 2019 From: dave.mdv at btinternet.com (dave.mdv) Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2019 18:36:24 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] BBC Type 2 Sound Desk? In-Reply-To: References: <001401d5bcd8$a68d8cf0$f3a8a6d0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <5fa19660-8329-7e9c-f484-de4957e4bb28@btinternet.com> Wasn't it also called a DK4/20, or was that another old desk? Cheers, Dave From dave.mdv at btinternet.com Fri Dec 27 12:52:51 2019 From: dave.mdv at btinternet.com (dave.mdv) Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2019 18:52:51 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] BBC LS3/1 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <43beb87e-d9b8-a8f7-1ad8-909a150e398f@btinternet.com> Quite right. I think the amp changed to the Mullard 5/20 later on (more grunt - EL34 v. EL86!) plus, of course, the red light and the sound talkback box. Happy days. Cheers, Dave From j at howell61.f9.co.uk Sat Dec 28 02:23:58 2019 From: j at howell61.f9.co.uk (John howell) Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2019 08:23:58 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] BBC LS3/1 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Sound Sales I think Nick, not Leak or Quad John. John. (Sent from the ifone) > On 27 Dec 2019, at 18:25, Nick Ware via Tech1 wrote: > > ?https://images.app.goo.gl/DqzR7iTjjNFytK8j9 > > Google and ye shall find. The ones we had in the studios were mounted on a base containing (I think) a Leak TL10 power amp with a tailored frequency response . The whole thing on casters. > Nick. > Sent from my iPad mini 5 > -- > Tech1 mailing list > Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk From Waresound at msn.com Sat Dec 28 02:56:43 2019 From: Waresound at msn.com (Nick Ware) Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2019 08:56:43 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] BBC LS3/1 In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: I?d rather trust your memory than mine on that! Happy new year, by the way. We must ?do? lunch again soon. Cheers, Nick. Sent from my iPad mini 5 > On 28 Dec 2019, at 08:24, John howell wrote: > > ?Sound Sales I think Nick, not Leak or Quad > > John. > > John. > > (Sent from the ifone) > >> On 27 Dec 2019, at 18:25, Nick Ware via Tech1 wrote: >> >> ?https://images.app.goo.gl/DqzR7iTjjNFytK8j9 >> >> Google and ye shall find. The ones we had in the studios were mounted on a base containing (I think) a Leak TL10 power amp with a tailored frequency response . The whole thing on casters. >> Nick. >> Sent from my iPad mini 5 >> -- >> Tech1 mailing list >> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk >> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk > From dnewbitt at fireflyuk.net Sat Dec 28 07:19:06 2019 From: dnewbitt at fireflyuk.net (David Newbitt) Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2019 13:19:06 -0000 Subject: [Tech1] BBC LS3/1 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5494596C47E9423D89E566512A9E0D25@DESKTOP6GGCRV1> Nick's recollection of the Leak amplifier was not entirely without foundation. The LSU/10 loudspeaker was driven by an amp coded by the BBC as LSM/8 but which was commercially sourced from H J Leak, it being basically that company's TL/12 amp with modified programme input circuitry. The LS3/1 used an amp coded by the BBC as AM8/1 which doubtless would also have been commercially sourced though I personally wouldn't have remembered from where. Step forward the ever reliable Hibou! Best to both, Dave Newbitt. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: John howell via Tech1 Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2019 8:23 AM To: Nick Ware Cc: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk Subject: Re: [Tech1] BBC LS3/1 Sound Sales I think Nick, not Leak or Quad John. John. (Sent from the ifone) > On 27 Dec 2019, at 18:25, Nick Ware via Tech1 > wrote: > > ?https://images.app.goo.gl/DqzR7iTjjNFytK8j9 > > Google and ye shall find. The ones we had in the studios were mounted on a > base containing (I think) a Leak TL10 power amp with a tailored frequency > response . The whole thing on casters. > Nick. > Sent from my iPad mini 5 > -- > Tech1 mailing list > Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk -- Tech1 mailing list Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk From dnewbitt at fireflyuk.net Sat Dec 28 08:02:29 2019 From: dnewbitt at fireflyuk.net (David Newbitt) Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2019 14:02:29 -0000 Subject: [Tech1] BBC LS3/1 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Further thought re Nick's mention of a tailored frequency response. In the case of the LS5/1 (though not I believe in the LS3/1) the crossover circuitry employed only fed both of the tweeters up to a certain frequency, above which only one was fed. In order not to lose overall output level at the frequencies where only one tweeter was in use, the feed amplifier had a 'tailored' response built in to compensate. I just wondered if this might be what Nick had remembered? Dave Newbitt. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Nick's recollection of the Leak amplifier was not entirely without foundation. The LSU/10 loudspeaker was driven by an amp coded by the BBC as LSM/8 but which was commercially sourced from H J Leak, it being basically that company's TL/12 amp with modified programme input circuitry. The LS3/1 used an amp coded by the BBC as AM8/1 which doubtless would also have been commercially sourced though I personally wouldn't have remembered from where. Step forward the ever reliable Hibou! Best to both, Dave Newbitt. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: John howell via Tech1 Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2019 8:23 AM To: Nick Ware Cc: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk Subject: Re: [Tech1] BBC LS3/1 Sound Sales I think Nick, not Leak or Quad John. John. (Sent from the ifone) > On 27 Dec 2019, at 18:25, Nick Ware via Tech1 > wrote: > > ?https://images.app.goo.gl/DqzR7iTjjNFytK8j9 > > Google and ye shall find. The ones we had in the studios were mounted on a > base containing (I think) a Leak TL10 power amp with a tailored frequency > response . The whole thing on casters. > Nick. > Sent from my iPad mini 5 > -- > Tech1 mailing list > Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk -- Tech1 mailing list Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk From Waresound at msn.com Sat Dec 28 11:14:34 2019 From: Waresound at msn.com (Nick Ware) Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2019 17:14:34 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] BBC LS3/1 In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: I thought it curious at the time, that while the rest of the World was Hell-bent on designing loudspeakers and amplifiers with as flat a frequency response as possible, BBC designers seemingly thought it OK to make a speaker cabinet with anything but a flat response, and put a fixed mirror image of that response in the amplifier. Not a bad approach as it turned out, as that has become the basis of every active loudspeaker you see around you today. Bi-amped drivers are a further progression on that concept, removing the need for passive crossovers. Good old Kingswood Warren you might think, but what a shame they gave away so many pioneering ideas rather than capitalising on them. Our dear and tragically lost friend John Staple, was a good friend of Peter J Walker (Quad), and I jumped at the opportunity of going to Huntingdon with John to visit Peter at the Quad factory on several occasions. I remember a conversation with Peter on just this subject. Peter was, as we all know, totally focussed on flat frequency response at every point in the signal path, not the least being the Quad Electrostatic loudspeakers. I liked his assertion that his Quad products were for music-aware purists listening to top quality recordings, ?the closest approach to the original sound?, whereas BBC monitor speakers were only for showing up faults! I felt comfortable with both sides of that argument. Interesting times! Best, Nick W. Sent from my iPad mini 5 > On 28 Dec 2019, at 14:02, David Newbitt wrote: > > ?Further thought re Nick's mention of a tailored frequency response. In the case of the LS5/1 (though not I believe in the LS3/1) the crossover circuitry employed only fed both of the tweeters up to a certain frequency, above which only one was fed. In order not to lose overall output level at the frequencies where only one tweeter was in use, the feed amplifier had a 'tailored' response built in to compensate. > > I just wondered if this might be what Nick had remembered? > > Dave Newbitt. > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Nick's recollection of the Leak amplifier was not entirely without > foundation. The LSU/10 loudspeaker was driven by an amp coded by the BBC as > LSM/8 but which was commercially sourced from H J Leak, it being basically > that company's TL/12 amp with modified programme input circuitry. > > The LS3/1 used an amp coded by the BBC as AM8/1 which doubtless would also > have been commercially sourced though I personally wouldn't have remembered > from where. Step forward the ever reliable Hibou! > > Best to both, > > Dave Newbitt. > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > -----Original Message----- From: John howell via Tech1 > Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2019 8:23 AM > To: Nick Ware > Cc: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > Subject: Re: [Tech1] BBC LS3/1 > > Sound Sales I think Nick, not Leak or Quad > > John. > > John. > > (Sent from the ifone) > >> On 27 Dec 2019, at 18:25, Nick Ware via Tech1 >> wrote: >> >> ?https://images.app.goo.gl/DqzR7iTjjNFytK8j9 >> >> Google and ye shall find. The ones we had in the studios were mounted on a >> base containing (I think) a Leak TL10 power amp with a tailored frequency >> response . The whole thing on casters. >> Nick. >> Sent from my iPad mini 5 >> -- >> Tech1 mailing list >> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk >> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk > > > -- > Tech1 mailing list > Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk From alawrance1 at me.com Sat Dec 28 12:11:25 2019 From: alawrance1 at me.com (Alasdair Lawrance) Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2019 18:11:25 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] BBC LS3/1 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I?ve recently discovered that my hearing drops off a cliff (almost) after 2khz, and is almost useless above 8khz. Fortunately, both ears are about the same. I said to the consultant, ?so what I need, I suppose, is the inverse of that curve??, and she said, yes, more or less. The aids I?m getting can apparently be controlled by an iPhone app, and I will be interested to see how that works. I?m sure Mr Walker could agree that?s a good idea to have a response the opposite of his life?s work! Alasdair Lawrance Don?t blame me, I voted Remain. > On 28 Dec 2019, at 17:15, Nick Ware via Tech1 wrote: > > ?I thought it curious at the time, that while the rest of the World was Hell-bent on designing loudspeakers and amplifiers with as flat a frequency response as possible, BBC designers seemingly thought it OK to make a speaker cabinet with anything but a flat response, and put a fixed mirror image of that response in the amplifier. Not a bad approach as it turned out, as that has become the basis of every active loudspeaker you see around you today. Bi-amped drivers are a further progression on that concept, removing the need for passive crossovers. > Good old Kingswood Warren you might think, but what a shame they gave away so many pioneering ideas rather than capitalising on them. > Our dear and tragically lost friend John Staple, was a good friend of Peter J Walker (Quad), and I jumped at the opportunity of going to Huntingdon with John to visit Peter at the Quad factory on several occasions. I remember a conversation with Peter on just this subject. Peter was, as we all know, totally focussed on flat frequency response at every point in the signal path, not the least being the Quad Electrostatic loudspeakers. I liked his assertion that his Quad products were for music-aware purists listening to top quality recordings, ?the closest approach to the original sound?, whereas BBC monitor speakers were only for showing up faults! I felt comfortable with both sides of that argument. > Interesting times! > Best, > Nick W. > Sent from my iPad mini 5 > >> On 28 Dec 2019, at 14:02, David Newbitt wrote: >> >> ?Further thought re Nick's mention of a tailored frequency response. In the case of the LS5/1 (though not I believe in the LS3/1) the crossover circuitry employed only fed both of the tweeters up to a certain frequency, above which only one was fed. In order not to lose overall output level at the frequencies where only one tweeter was in use, the feed amplifier had a 'tailored' response built in to compensate. >> >> I just wondered if this might be what Nick had remembered? >> >> Dave Newbitt. >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Nick's recollection of the Leak amplifier was not entirely without >> foundation. The LSU/10 loudspeaker was driven by an amp coded by the BBC as >> LSM/8 but which was commercially sourced from H J Leak, it being basically >> that company's TL/12 amp with modified programme input circuitry. >> >> The LS3/1 used an amp coded by the BBC as AM8/1 which doubtless would also >> have been commercially sourced though I personally wouldn't have remembered >> from where. Step forward the ever reliable Hibou! >> >> Best to both, >> >> Dave Newbitt. >> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> -----Original Message----- From: John howell via Tech1 >> Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2019 8:23 AM >> To: Nick Ware >> Cc: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk >> Subject: Re: [Tech1] BBC LS3/1 >> >> Sound Sales I think Nick, not Leak or Quad >> >> John. >> >> John. >> >> (Sent from the ifone) >> >>> On 27 Dec 2019, at 18:25, Nick Ware via Tech1 >>> wrote: >>> >>> ?https://images.app.goo.gl/DqzR7iTjjNFytK8j9 >>> >>> Google and ye shall find. The ones we had in the studios were mounted on a >>> base containing (I think) a Leak TL10 power amp with a tailored frequency >>> response . The whole thing on casters. >>> Nick. >>> Sent from my iPad mini 5 >>> -- >>> Tech1 mailing list >>> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk >>> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk >> >> >> -- >> Tech1 mailing list >> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk >> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk > -- > Tech1 mailing list > Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk From pat.heigham at amps.net Sat Dec 28 12:21:58 2019 From: pat.heigham at amps.net (patheigham) Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2019 18:21:58 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] BBC LS3/1 In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: <5e079d45.1c69fb81.695c5.7bca@mx.google.com> Interesting topic. I recall staggering in one day with one of my Tannoy Chatsworth speakers to compare with the BBC installed monitor in TC4. What a difference ? fed from the L/S feed from the apparatus bay, it sounded rubbish, which meant that the tweaked response was well before the L/S unit itself. Now we were not told about this tweakery during our training ? why not? Never mind ? at Wood Norton, there was a session on stereo which I thought was crap, so brought up my rig ? same Tannoy speakers and Quad amps to demonstrate to the tutors that they were behind the times! (Naughty Pat!). Used that rig for the STO pantomime we put on in the club dancehall. I worked a stereo audio gag that had Ian Leiper (dressed as a sultan, doing a Wimbledon tennis head twist between the speakers!). I think that the dear BBC managers had little idea of the inventiveness of their staff, which if nurtured, would enhance the Corporation?s standing. Mind you, anything that was invented and subsequently developed was appropriated and whipped away from the perpetrator. ( I was asked to draw the circuity for the Dr.Who Dalek voices ? my sketch had my name on it which was erased when the plan was published!) Nick ? I still deal with The Acoustical Company and had my Quad 44/405 updated not too long ago. Years ago, I invested in a pair of Quad Electrostatics, and initially was disappointed as I expected a more ?fizzy? sound. However, listening to a R4 play in stereo, a character spoke on one channel, and made me jump as I thought that there was someone in the room. Thus ? ?a closer approach to the original sound? I sold the Electrostatics and bought BNS off Nick, which took up less room and still sound great, and well matched for stereo ? a mono source is perfectly positioned in the middle between them. Best Pat Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Nick Ware via Tech1 Sent: 28 December 2019 17:14 To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk Subject: Re: [Tech1] BBC LS3/1 I thought it curious at the time, that while the rest of the World was Hell-bent on designing loudspeakers and amplifiers with as flat a frequency response as possible, BBC designers seemingly thought it OK to make a speaker cabinet with anything but a flat response, and put a fixed mirror image of that response in the amplifier. Not a bad approach as it turned out, as that has become the basis of every active loudspeaker you see around you today. Bi-amped drivers are a further progression on that concept, removing the need for passive crossovers. Good old Kingswood Warren you might think, but what a shame they gave away so many pioneering ideas rather than capitalising on them. Our dear and tragically lost friend John Staple, was a good friend of Peter J Walker (Quad), and I jumped at the opportunity of going to Huntingdon with John to visit Peter at the Quad factory on several occasions. I remember a conversation with Peter on just this subject. Peter was, as we all know, totally focussed on flat frequency response at every point in the signal path, not the least being the Quad Electrostatic loudspeakers. I liked his assertion that his Quad products were for music-aware purists listening to top quality recordings, ?the closest approach to the original sound?, whereas BBC monitor speakers were only for showing up faults! I felt comfortable with both sides of that argument. Interesting times! Best, Nick W. Sent from my iPad mini 5 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dnewbitt at fireflyuk.net Sat Dec 28 12:35:59 2019 From: dnewbitt at fireflyuk.net (David Newbitt) Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2019 18:35:59 -0000 Subject: [Tech1] BBC LS3/1 In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: <23A0E13C2F694904A3EED5D2EAFE3EA0@DESKTOP6GGCRV1> Interesting times indeed. I too accompanied John on a couple of occasions when he was making the pilgrimage to Quad - always when Peter Walker was part of the deal. I think John enjoyed almost as much the compulsory drive he made up the road to the perimeter fence of the American Air Force Base. They were let us say 'sensitive' to people nosing about and it was, as you well know, very much part of John's make up that he liked the idea of getting up their noses! John's gear at home was of course Quad based (pair of electrostatics, 22 Preamp, FM Tuner + 2 x Quad II's), fed by his Decca FFSS/ 301 combination which he fiercely justified as THE set up. When Arthur Radford designed his pentode phase splitter and published in HI Fi News the full amp circuitry, I climbed aboard with a couple of MA15's, a home constructed SC2 to Radford's design and a pair of Kef designed floorstanders which I built. Raymond Cooke himself came to our flat bringing the Mutocell sound deadening panels specified which I had been unable to source. Connoisseur turntable and ADC wooden tone arm with ADC 10E Mk1V to finish. We had endless debates with John re the merits/de-merits of our respective systems and at least once carted my gear down to John's house at Claygate to do side-by-sides. Made the more entertaining of course by John's expansive conducting with baton and full score, hair flying about in response to the violent head movements. And of course a liberal sprinkling of "dear gods". I don't recall anything conclusive ever emerging from the session. Re John himself. When I first knew him he was in one of the now Grade 1 listed alms-houses called Trinity Green on Mile End Road, Whitechapel. I don't know why it never struck me to wonder how the devil he managed that but I sure wonder now. Imagine the effect (which I can attest to) of John's gear going full chat in that type of environment! Dave Newbitt. -----Original Message----- From: Nick Ware via Tech1 Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2019 5:14 PM To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk Subject: Re: [Tech1] BBC LS3/1 I thought it curious at the time, that while the rest of the World was Hell-bent on designing loudspeakers and amplifiers with as flat a frequency response as possible, BBC designers seemingly thought it OK to make a speaker cabinet with anything but a flat response, and put a fixed mirror image of that response in the amplifier. Not a bad approach as it turned out, as that has become the basis of every active loudspeaker you see around you today. Bi-amped drivers are a further progression on that concept, removing the need for passive crossovers. Good old Kingswood Warren you might think, but what a shame they gave away so many pioneering ideas rather than capitalising on them. Our dear and tragically lost friend John Staple, was a good friend of Peter J Walker (Quad), and I jumped at the opportunity of going to Huntingdon with John to visit Peter at the Quad factory on several occasions. I remember a conversation with Peter on just this subject. Peter was, as we all know, totally focussed on flat frequency response at every point in the signal path, not the least being the Quad Electrostatic loudspeakers. I liked his assertion that his Quad products were for music-aware purists listening to top quality recordings, ?the closest approach to the original sound?, whereas BBC monitor speakers were only for showing up faults! I felt comfortable with both sides of that argument. Interesting times! Best, Nick W. Sent from my iPad mini 5 > On 28 Dec 2019, at 14:02, David Newbitt wrote: > > ?Further thought re Nick's mention of a tailored frequency response. In > the case of the LS5/1 (though not I believe in the LS3/1) the crossover > circuitry employed only fed both of the tweeters up to a certain > frequency, above which only one was fed. In order not to lose overall > output level at the frequencies where only one tweeter was in use, the > feed amplifier had a 'tailored' response built in to compensate. > > I just wondered if this might be what Nick had remembered? > > Dave Newbitt. > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Nick's recollection of the Leak amplifier was not entirely without > foundation. The LSU/10 loudspeaker was driven by an amp coded by the BBC > as > LSM/8 but which was commercially sourced from H J Leak, it being basically > that company's TL/12 amp with modified programme input circuitry. > > The LS3/1 used an amp coded by the BBC as AM8/1 which doubtless would also > have been commercially sourced though I personally wouldn't have > remembered > from where. Step forward the ever reliable Hibou! > > Best to both, > > Dave Newbitt. > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > -----Original Message----- From: John howell via Tech1 > Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2019 8:23 AM > To: Nick Ware > Cc: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > Subject: Re: [Tech1] BBC LS3/1 > > Sound Sales I think Nick, not Leak or Quad > > John. > > John. > > (Sent from the ifone) > >> On 27 Dec 2019, at 18:25, Nick Ware via Tech1 >> wrote: >> >> ?https://images.app.goo.gl/DqzR7iTjjNFytK8j9 >> >> Google and ye shall find. The ones we had in the studios were mounted on >> a >> base containing (I think) a Leak TL10 power amp with a tailored frequency >> response . The whole thing on casters. >> Nick. >> Sent from my iPad mini 5 >> -- >> Tech1 mailing list >> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk >> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk > > > -- > Tech1 mailing list > Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk -- Tech1 mailing list Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk From pat.heigham at amps.net Sat Dec 28 12:41:37 2019 From: pat.heigham at amps.net (patheigham) Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2019 18:41:37 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Hearing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5e07a1e1.1c69fb81.30570.4448@mx.google.com> I used to engage with full-bore shooting at Bisley. I was quite a good shot and got offered a job with the Armed Response Unit of the Toronto Police! (?nother story there!) But... caught a shot badly once which resulted in a singing in the ears. I wasn?t worried as it used to pass off by the evening. Except this time it didn?t. A gentle background hiss ? tinnitus. A consultant in Wigmore Street heard my story and said he would test the intermediate frequencies. If he hadn?t it would have missed that I suffer a 20db drop at 6KHz. He could tell off which shoulder I shot! Possibly as one ear is closer to the breech than the other. Pat Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Alasdair Lawrance via Tech1 Sent: 28 December 2019 18:11 To: Nick Ware Cc: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk Subject: Re: [Tech1] BBC LS3/1 I?ve recently discovered that my hearing drops off a cliff (almost) after 2khz, and is almost useless above 8khz. Fortunately, both ears are about the same. I said to the consultant, ?so what I need, I suppose, is the inverse of that curve??, and she said, yes, more or less. The aids I?m getting can apparently be controlled by an iPhone app, and I will be interested to see how that works. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I said to the consultant, ?so what I need, I suppose, is the inverse of that curve??, and she said, yes, more or less. The aids I?m getting can apparently be controlled by an iPhone app, and I will be interested to see how that works. I?m sure Mr Walker could agree that?s a good idea to have a response the opposite of his life?s work! Alasdair Lawrance Don?t blame me, I voted Remain. > On 28 Dec 2019, at 17:15, Nick Ware via Tech1 > wrote: > > ?I thought it curious at the time, that while the rest of the World was > Hell-bent on designing loudspeakers and amplifiers with as flat a > frequency response as possible, BBC designers seemingly thought it OK to > make a speaker cabinet with anything but a flat response, and put a fixed > mirror image of that response in the amplifier. Not a bad approach as it > turned out, as that has become the basis of every active loudspeaker you > see around you today. Bi-amped drivers are a further progression on that > concept, removing the need for passive crossovers. > Good old Kingswood Warren you might think, but what a shame they gave away > so many pioneering ideas rather than capitalising on them. > Our dear and tragically lost friend John Staple, was a good friend of > Peter J Walker (Quad), and I jumped at the opportunity of going to > Huntingdon with John to visit Peter at the Quad factory on several > occasions. I remember a conversation with Peter on just this subject. > Peter was, as we all know, totally focussed on flat frequency response at > every point in the signal path, not the least being the Quad Electrostatic > loudspeakers. I liked his assertion that his Quad products were for > music-aware purists listening to top quality recordings, ?the closest > approach to the original sound?, whereas BBC monitor speakers were only > for showing up faults! I felt comfortable with both sides of that > argument. > Interesting times! > Best, > Nick W. > Sent from my iPad mini 5 > >> On 28 Dec 2019, at 14:02, David Newbitt wrote: >> >> ?Further thought re Nick's mention of a tailored frequency response. In >> the case of the LS5/1 (though not I believe in the LS3/1) the crossover >> circuitry employed only fed both of the tweeters up to a certain >> frequency, above which only one was fed. In order not to lose overall >> output level at the frequencies where only one tweeter was in use, the >> feed amplifier had a 'tailored' response built in to compensate. >> >> I just wondered if this might be what Nick had remembered? >> >> Dave Newbitt. >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Nick's recollection of the Leak amplifier was not entirely without >> foundation. The LSU/10 loudspeaker was driven by an amp coded by the BBC >> as >> LSM/8 but which was commercially sourced from H J Leak, it being >> basically >> that company's TL/12 amp with modified programme input circuitry. >> >> The LS3/1 used an amp coded by the BBC as AM8/1 which doubtless would >> also >> have been commercially sourced though I personally wouldn't have >> remembered >> from where. Step forward the ever reliable Hibou! >> >> Best to both, >> >> Dave Newbitt. >> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> -----Original Message----- From: John howell via Tech1 >> Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2019 8:23 AM >> To: Nick Ware >> Cc: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk >> Subject: Re: [Tech1] BBC LS3/1 >> >> Sound Sales I think Nick, not Leak or Quad >> >> John. >> >> John. >> >> (Sent from the ifone) >> >>> On 27 Dec 2019, at 18:25, Nick Ware via Tech1 >>> wrote: >>> >>> ?https://images.app.goo.gl/DqzR7iTjjNFytK8j9 >>> >>> Google and ye shall find. The ones we had in the studios were mounted on >>> a >>> base containing (I think) a Leak TL10 power amp with a tailored >>> frequency >>> response . The whole thing on casters. >>> Nick. >>> Sent from my iPad mini 5 >>> -- >>> Tech1 mailing list >>> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk >>> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk >> >> >> -- >> Tech1 mailing list >> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk >> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk > -- > Tech1 mailing list > Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk -- Tech1 mailing list Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk From gary_critcher at yahoo.com Sat Dec 28 15:09:29 2019 From: gary_critcher at yahoo.com (Gary Critcher) Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2019 21:09:29 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Tech1] attached pictures (spoiler - steam trains!) 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Graeme Wall > On 28 Dec 2019, at 21:09, Gary Critcher via Tech1 wrote: > > I was recently given a stack of old 35mm slides of steam engines etc., I hope I'm right in thinking there are a few steam enthusiasts on here? > Anyway, here's a brief selection, unfortunately I have no info whatsoever on where and when they were taken. > > all the best for the New Year, > Gary C > -- > Tech1 mailing list > Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk From j at howell61.f9.co.uk Sat Dec 28 16:18:15 2019 From: j at howell61.f9.co.uk (John Howell) Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2019 22:18:15 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] BBC LS3/1 In-Reply-To: <5e079d45.1c69fb81.695c5.7bca@mx.google.com> References: <5e079d45.1c69fb81.695c5.7bca@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <123bb065-a786-8a2b-aa1b-fecc3c5ef34a@howell61.f9.co.uk> Time to re-present my miniature LS3/1 & LSU10, both contain tiny class D amplifiers powered by 3 rechargeable 'AAA' cells. They? pump out 3 Watts but it is the devil of a job stopping the guts from rattling. The LS3 is charged via crock clips on the handles. A happy and prosperous New Year to all John Howell. On 28/12/2019 18:21, patheigham via Tech1 wrote: > > Interesting topic. > > I recall staggering in one day with one of my Tannoy Chatsworth > speakers to compare with the BBC installed monitor in TC4. > > What a difference ? fed from the L/S feed from the apparatus bay, it > sounded rubbish, which meant that the tweaked response was well before > the L/S unit itself. > > Now we were not told about this tweakery during our training ? why not? > > Never mind ? at Wood Norton, there was a session on stereo which I > thought was crap, so brought up my rig ? same Tannoy speakers and Quad > amps to demonstrate to the tutors that they were behind the times! > (Naughty Pat!). Used that rig for the STO pantomime we put on in the > club dancehall. I worked a stereo audio gag that had Ian Leiper > (dressed as a sultan, doing a Wimbledon tennis head twist between the > speakers!). > > I? think that the dear BBC managers had little idea of the > inventiveness of their staff, which if nurtured, would enhance the > Corporation?s standing. Mind you, anything that _was_ invented and > subsequently developed was appropriated and whipped away from the > perpetrator. > > ( I was asked to draw the circuity for the Dr.Who Dalek voices ? my > sketch had my name on it which was erased when the plan was published!) > > Nick ? I still deal with The Acoustical Company and had my Quad 44/405 > updated not too long ago. > > Years ago, I invested in a pair of Quad Electrostatics, and initially > was disappointed as I expected a more ?fizzy? sound. However, > listening to a R4 play in stereo, a character spoke on one channel, > and made me jump as I thought that there was someone in the room. Thus > ? ?a closer approach to the original sound? > > I sold the Electrostatics and bought BNS off Nick, which took up less > room and still sound great, and well matched for stereo ? a mono > source is perfectly positioned in the middle between them. > > Best > > Pat > > Sent from Mail for > Windows 10 > > *From: *Nick Ware via Tech1 > *Sent: *28 December 2019 17:14 > *To: *tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > *Subject: *Re: [Tech1] BBC LS3/1 > > I thought it curious at the time, that while the rest of the World was > Hell-bent on designing loudspeakers and amplifiers with as flat a > frequency response as possible, BBC designers seemingly thought it OK > to make a speaker cabinet with anything but a flat response, and put a > fixed mirror image of that response in the amplifier. Not a bad > approach as it turned out, as that has become the basis of every > active loudspeaker you see around you today. Bi-amped drivers are a > further progression on that concept, removing the need for passive > crossovers. > > Good old Kingswood Warren you might think, but what a shame they gave > away so many pioneering ideas rather than capitalising on them. > > Our dear and tragically lost friend John Staple, was a good friend of > Peter J Walker (Quad), and I jumped at the opportunity of going to > Huntingdon with John to visit Peter at the Quad factory on several > occasions. I remember a conversation with Peter on just this subject. > Peter was, as we all know, totally focussed on flat frequency response > at every point in the signal path, not the least being the Quad > Electrostatic loudspeakers. I liked his assertion that his Quad > products were for music-aware purists listening to top quality > recordings, ?the closest approach to the original sound?, whereas BBC > monitor speakers were only for showing up faults! I felt comfortable > with both sides of that argument. > > Interesting times! > > Best, > > Nick W. > > Sent from my iPad mini 5 > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: LS3+1Front.JPG Type: image/jpeg Size: 106762 bytes Desc: not available URL: From david.jasma at sky.com Sun Dec 29 05:24:38 2019 From: david.jasma at sky.com (Dave Buckley) Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2019 11:24:38 -0000 Subject: [Tech1] attached pictures (spoiler - steam trains!) In-Reply-To: <596723100.7087564.1577567370343@mail.yahoo.com> References: <596723100.7087564.1577567370343.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <596723100.7087564.1577567370343@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000c01d5be3a$8f3a9760$adafc620$@sky.com> For further info on two of the photos taken on the Bluebell Railway (nos.14 and 7) see the link below and other pages on the site. https://www.bulleidsociety.org/21C123/21C123_Preservation.html Dave Buckley -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Dave Buckley From dave at davesound.co.uk Sun Dec 29 07:36:26 2019 From: dave at davesound.co.uk (Dave Plowman) Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2019 13:36:26 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [Tech1] BBC LS3/1 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5829fc8b33dave@davesound.co.uk> In article , Nick Ware via Tech1 wrote: > https://images.app.goo.gl/DqzR7iTjjNFytK8j9 > Google and ye shall find. The ones we had in the studios were mounted on > a base containing (I think) a Leak TL10 power amp with a tailored > frequency response . The whole thing on casters. Nick. Sent from my iPad > mini 5 When they produced the tracking version (with a talkback box mounted on it, easy to get at level control and bigger wheels) the power amp was changed to a transistor Quad 50. IIRC the Leak and Sound Sales amps were pretty similar. -- *Born free - taxed to death * Dave Plowman dave at davesound.co.uk London SW 12 From dave at davesound.co.uk Sun Dec 29 07:41:50 2019 From: dave at davesound.co.uk (Dave Plowman) Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2019 13:41:50 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [Tech1] BBC LS3/1 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5829fd0a03dave@davesound.co.uk> In article , David Newbitt via Tech1 wrote: > Further thought re Nick's mention of a tailored frequency response. In > the case of the LS5/1 (though not I believe in the LS3/1) the crossover > circuitry employed only fed both of the tweeters up to a certain > frequency, above which only one was fed. In order not to lose overall > output level at the frequencies where only one tweeter was in use, the > feed amplifier had a 'tailored' response built in to compensate. Got a bit of trivia about that. When I moved to Thames, they were still using some LS 5/1. But had a Thames built equaliser in the bay which removed the BBC designed upper mid range suck out. -- *Procrastination is the art of keeping up with yesterday. Dave Plowman dave at davesound.co.uk London SW 12 From dave at davesound.co.uk Sun Dec 29 07:45:19 2019 From: dave at davesound.co.uk (Dave Plowman) Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2019 13:45:19 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [Tech1] BBC LS3/1 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5829fd5af9dave@davesound.co.uk> In article , Nick Ware via Tech1 wrote: > Peter was, as we all know, totally focussed on flat frequency response > at every point in the signal path, not the least being the Quad > Electrostatic loudspeakers. I liked his assertion that his Quad > products were for music-aware purists listening to top quality > recordings, ?the closest approach to the original sound?, whereas BBC > monitor speakers were only for showing up faults! I felt comfortable > with both sides of that argument. I can see his argument, but a Quad ESL of that day simply wasn't capable of producing the level needed for GP TV monitoring - even more so in mono days. Thames TV knew that from practice. -- *A closed mouth gathers no feet.* Dave Plowman dave at davesound.co.uk London SW 12 From graeme.wall at icloud.com Sun Dec 29 08:56:43 2019 From: graeme.wall at icloud.com (Graeme Wall) Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2019 14:56:43 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Old cars Message-ID: <01FA505F-4F5E-40B3-8560-0BADD2883022@icloud.com> After pictures of steam trains, here?s one of an old car. I have no idea what it is - can anyone identify it? Seen at a vintage car rally in Buenos Aires. ? Graeme Wall -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Old car.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 837647 bytes Desc: not available URL: From dnewbitt at fireflyuk.net Sun Dec 29 09:22:26 2019 From: dnewbitt at fireflyuk.net (David Newbitt) Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2019 15:22:26 -0000 Subject: [Tech1] Old cars In-Reply-To: <01FA505F-4F5E-40B3-8560-0BADD2883022@icloud.com> References: <01FA505F-4F5E-40B3-8560-0BADD2883022@icloud.com> Message-ID: <18996D562DCB423F880245910D590B22@DESKTOP6GGCRV1> I?m reasonably certain it?s a 1930?s Packard but can?t say which model ? I?ll have a poke around a bit later. Dave Newbitt From: Graeme Wall via Tech1 Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2019 2:56 PM To: Tech ops Subject: [Tech1] Old cars After pictures of steam trains, here?s one of an old car. I have no idea what it is - can anyone identify it? Seen at a vintage car rally in Buenos Aires. ? 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I have no > idea what it is - can anyone identify it? > > Seen at a vintage car rally in Buenos Aires. > > ? > Graeme Wall > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 1936 Packard Victoria.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 756208 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Old car.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 837647 bytes Desc: not available URL: From graeme.wall at icloud.com Sun Dec 29 09:54:03 2019 From: graeme.wall at icloud.com (Graeme Wall) Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2019 15:54:03 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Old cars In-Reply-To: References: <01FA505F-4F5E-40B3-8560-0BADD2883022@icloud.com> Message-ID: Thanks Hugh and Dave, some googling is called for now. ? Graeme Wall > On 29 Dec 2019, at 15:48, Hugh Sheppard via Tech1 wrote: > > Try this younger relo: A 1936 Packard Victoria. > > <1936 Packard Victoria.jpg> > > From Google, > > Hugh > > > On 29-Dec-19 2:56 PM, Graeme Wall via Tech1 wrote: >> After pictures of steam trains, here?s one of an old car. I have no idea what it is - can anyone identify it? >> >> Seen at a vintage car rally in Buenos Aires. >> >> ? >> Graeme Wall >> >> >> > > -- > Tech1 mailing list > Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk From dnewbitt at fireflyuk.net Sun Dec 29 10:14:31 2019 From: dnewbitt at fireflyuk.net (David Newbitt) Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2019 16:14:31 -0000 Subject: [Tech1] Old cars In-Reply-To: References: <01FA505F-4F5E-40B3-8560-0BADD2883022@icloud.com> Message-ID: <71D7C9C2189A4784A276DEAB68D02472@DESKTOP6GGCRV1> Think I've got it Graeme - a 1934 Packard 12 Club Sedan. See attached. What do you think? Cheers, Dave Newbitt. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: Graeme Wall via Tech1 Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2019 3:54 PM To: Hugh Sheppard Cc: Tech ops Subject: Re: [Tech1] Old cars Thanks Hugh and Dave, some googling is called for now. ? Graeme Wall > On 29 Dec 2019, at 15:48, Hugh Sheppard via Tech1 > wrote: > > Try this younger relo: A 1936 Packard Victoria. > > <1936 Packard Victoria.jpg> > > From Google, > > Hugh > > > On 29-Dec-19 2:56 PM, Graeme Wall via Tech1 wrote: >> After pictures of steam trains, here?s one of an old car. I have no idea >> what it is - can anyone identify it? >> >> Seen at a vintage car rally in Buenos Aires. >> >> ? >> Graeme Wall >> >> >> > > -- > Tech1 mailing list > Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk -- Tech1 mailing list Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 1934 Packard 12 club Sedan.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 1061603 bytes Desc: not available URL: From graeme.wall at icloud.com Sun Dec 29 12:02:08 2019 From: graeme.wall at icloud.com (Graeme Wall) Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2019 18:02:08 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Old cars In-Reply-To: <71D7C9C2189A4784A276DEAB68D02472@DESKTOP6GGCRV1> References: <01FA505F-4F5E-40B3-8560-0BADD2883022@icloud.com> <71D7C9C2189A4784A276DEAB68D02472@DESKTOP6GGCRV1> Message-ID: <095C364A-6E01-4C7F-B3C6-A57FEAE90FB7@icloud.com> Thanks Dave, that definitely looks like the one. ? Graeme Wall > On 29 Dec 2019, at 16:14, David Newbitt wrote: > > Think I've got it Graeme - a 1934 Packard 12 Club Sedan. See attached. > > What do you think? > > Cheers, Dave Newbitt. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -----Original Message----- From: Graeme Wall via Tech1 > Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2019 3:54 PM > To: Hugh Sheppard > Cc: Tech ops > Subject: Re: [Tech1] Old cars > > Thanks Hugh and Dave, some googling is called for now. > > ? > Graeme Wall > > >> On 29 Dec 2019, at 15:48, Hugh Sheppard via Tech1 wrote: >> >> Try this younger relo: A 1936 Packard Victoria. >> >> <1936 Packard Victoria.jpg> >> >> From Google, >> >> Hugh >> >> >> On 29-Dec-19 2:56 PM, Graeme Wall via Tech1 wrote: >>> After pictures of steam trains, here?s one of an old car. I have no idea what it is - can anyone identify it? >>> >>> Seen at a vintage car rally in Buenos Aires. >>> >>> ? >>> Graeme Wall >>> >>> >>> >> >> -- >> Tech1 mailing list >> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk >> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk > > > -- > Tech1 mailing list > Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk > <1934 Packard 12 club Sedan.jpg> From dnewbitt at fireflyuk.net Sun Dec 29 13:55:22 2019 From: dnewbitt at fireflyuk.net (David Newbitt) Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2019 19:55:22 -0000 Subject: [Tech1] Old cars In-Reply-To: <095C364A-6E01-4C7F-B3C6-A57FEAE90FB7@icloud.com> References: <01FA505F-4F5E-40B3-8560-0BADD2883022@icloud.com> <71D7C9C2189A4784A276DEAB68D02472@DESKTOP6GGCRV1> <095C364A-6E01-4C7F-B3C6-A57FEAE90FB7@icloud.com> Message-ID: Should have said Graham that the photo I posted was from here :- http://www.vaultcars.com/1934-packard-twelve-club-sedan There are multiple photos and some specs (eg V12 of 445 cu ins). Really seems a beautiful car and I enjoyed the ride! Dave Newbitt --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: Graeme Wall Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2019 6:02 PM To: David Newbitt Cc: Hugh Sheppard ; Tech ops Subject: Re: [Tech1] Old cars Thanks Dave, that definitely looks like the one. ? Graeme Wall > On 29 Dec 2019, at 16:14, David Newbitt wrote: > > Think I've got it Graeme - a 1934 Packard 12 Club Sedan. See attached. > > What do you think? > > Cheers, Dave Newbitt. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -----Original Message----- From: Graeme Wall via Tech1 > Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2019 3:54 PM > To: Hugh Sheppard > Cc: Tech ops > Subject: Re: [Tech1] Old cars > > Thanks Hugh and Dave, some googling is called for now. > > ? > Graeme Wall > > >> On 29 Dec 2019, at 15:48, Hugh Sheppard via Tech1 >> wrote: >> >> Try this younger relo: A 1936 Packard Victoria. >> >> <1936 Packard Victoria.jpg> >> >> From Google, >> >> Hugh >> >> >> On 29-Dec-19 2:56 PM, Graeme Wall via Tech1 wrote: >>> After pictures of steam trains, here?s one of an old car. I have no idea >>> what it is - can anyone identify it? >>> >>> Seen at a vintage car rally in Buenos Aires. >>> >>> ? >>> Graeme Wall >>> >>> >>> >> >> -- >> Tech1 mailing list >> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk >> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk > > > -- > Tech1 mailing list > Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk > <1934 Packard 12 club Sedan.jpg> From alanaudio at me.com Sun Dec 29 16:00:28 2019 From: alanaudio at me.com (Alan Taylor) Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2019 22:00:28 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Loudspeaker information In-Reply-To: <001701d5be3b$a380c1d0$ea824570$@sky.com> References: <001701d5be3b$a380c1d0$ea824570$@sky.com> Message-ID: I always enjoy linking two entirely different topics with one story. Some of you may recall that I spoke of a series of O.B. dance inserts for the Engelbert Humperdinck Show where every one of them involved some sort of monumental cock-up. One further shoot in that series which I have just remembered was a Christmas number, so with Stewart Morris directing, it simply had to be shot in snow. The location was a clearing in a forest within an army camp in Hampshire. The dance routine was carefully rehearsed on the location and then it was time for the snow. The army provided a couple of fire engines with foam attachments and while the dancers and crew took a meal break, a bunch of squaddies were ordered to cover everything in foam, which they did most enthusiastically, even managing to cover the tops of the highest trees because as we all know, Stewart would have settled for nothing less. The first problem came to light when somebody was walking across the clearing and simply disappeared, throwing up a comedy plume of foam as he sunk below the surface. Being army land, they had dug trenches in all sorts of random places, but when you cover them with foam, they become completely indiscernible. One of the squaddies rushing to his aid vanished into the unseen trench in a similar manner. The remaining squaddies were issued with bamboo sticks and instructed to prod the ground and mark places where there were trenches. The more observant amongst us might be wondering how this could possibly tie in with a thread about BBC monitoring loudspeakers? Well the dancers needed foldback speakers and this was achieved by using a number of fairly large BBC monitor speakers. I can?t remember the exact model number, but they were the best part of a metre high, about 500mm wide and 400mm deep, painted grey and with sturdy handles either side so that they could be laughingly referred to as portable speakers by people who never had to carry loads of them into a forest. When the squaddies were tasked with covering everything in foam, they didn?t worry about those solid looking boxes. They looked pretty rugged and would doubtless cope with a bit of foam. Upon returning, we were alarmed when we saw what had been done to our speakers. We wiped off as much foam as possible and tentatively tried them. It sounded rather like what we hear these days when listening to an iPhone playing music through its internal speaker. The paper cones of the speakers had turned into porridge and the tiny bit of sound being produced was from the plasticised tweeter and more easily heard by dogs rather than humans. We didn?t have any spare speakers and the routine needed to be recorded, so the sound crew positioned ourselves as close to the speakers as possible to hear whatever we could and conducted with our hands so that the dancers could see the tempo wherever they looked. The floor manager was listening to the production secretary on long lead cans ( no radio talkback in those days ) and shouted out the bar count - 1, 2,3,4:2,2,3,4:3,2,3,4:4,2,3,4 etc. Stewart came up with the brilliant idea of getting the crew to sing along to the track, but it was soon abandoned in order to avoid unnecessary cruelty to the dancers and besides, they were supposed to be smiling alluringly, not laughing uncontrollably! Alan Taylor > On 29 Dec 2019, at 11:32, Dave Buckley via Tech1 wrote: > > ?For more info on any LS and other BBC equipment in general, have a look at > this page on Martin Ellen's excellent website, > http://www.bbceng.info/ti/aco-post-1960.htm and select the equipment > required. > > Unfortunately, none of the information pages have photos of the equipment, > only technical write-ups and circuit diagrams (except the LSU/10 sheet!) > > Should provide a few hours reading for members! > > Dave Buckley > > > -- > Tech1 mailing list > Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk From hughsheppard at btinternet.com Mon Dec 30 03:36:19 2019 From: hughsheppard at btinternet.com (Hugh Sheppard) Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2019 09:36:19 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Memories of Chan Canasta Message-ID: <19043ddd-872f-f721-9484-fd0adfb017f8@btinternet.com> Circa early '60s, Chan Canasta was a remarkable magician/illusionist/mentalist who made several series for the BBC; lastly in a Parkinson (BBC) in 1971. Meeting a current magician who revered him took me on a trawl of IMDB and of YouTube to find a few copies, probably of telerecordings that appear to be off Philips or VHS. No matter, they're enough of a reminder of an extraordinary talent; one that Chan spent time repeating for Crew 6 as I recall, with Ken Major amongst us, all gathered around. We were still none the wiser about how he did it, but does anyone else remember working with him - or having the odd recording? Hugh -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pat.heigham at amps.net Mon Dec 30 07:11:26 2019 From: pat.heigham at amps.net (patheigham) Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2019 13:11:26 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Memories of Chan Canasta In-Reply-To: <19043ddd-872f-f721-9484-fd0adfb017f8@btinternet.com> References: <19043ddd-872f-f721-9484-fd0adfb017f8@btinternet.com> Message-ID: <5e09f77e.1c69fb81.b51f.6c31@mx.google.com> Hugh, I can?t help with Chan Canasta, although I do remember the name. My memory of conjurors at the BBC stems from my very first studio duty, ?Mr. Pastry? in LG ?D?. Robert Harbin was guesting as a magician. His wife was my mother?s stepmother?s sister, and Robert used to entertain the family with close-up sleight-of-hand. While de-rigging after the show, I went up to him, introduced myself, saying: ? I believe you know my mother!? He knew her by her maiden name, and we enjoyed a chat! Pat Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Hugh Sheppard via Tech1 Sent: 30 December 2019 09:36 To: Tech1 at tech-ops Subject: [Tech1] Memories of Chan Canasta Circa early '60s, Chan Canasta was a remarkable magician/illusionist/mentalist who made several series for the BBC; lastly in a Parkinson (BBC) in 1971. Meeting a current magician who revered him took me on a trawl of IMDB and of YouTube to find a few copies, probably of telerecordings that appear to be off Philips or VHS.? No matter, they're enough of a reminder of an extraordinary talent; one that Chan spent time repeating for Crew 6 as I recall, with Ken Major amongst us, all gathered around. We were still none the wiser about how he did it, but does anyone else remember working with him - or having the odd recording? Hugh -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pat.heigham at amps.net Mon Dec 30 07:28:29 2019 From: pat.heigham at amps.net (patheigham) Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2019 13:28:29 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Loudspeaker information In-Reply-To: References: <001701d5be3b$a380c1d0$ea824570$@sky.com> Message-ID: <5e09fb7d.1c69fb81.b98de.7bbe@mx.google.com> What a wonderful story, Alan! Worth a comedy slot of it?s own! I?ve a couple of stories of location playback, so might put fingers to keyboards in a while. They aren?t as amusing as yours, though. Pat Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Alan Taylor via Tech1 Sent: 29 December 2019 22:00 To: Tech-Ops-chit-chat Subject: Re: [Tech1] Loudspeaker information I always enjoy linking two entirely different topics with one story. Some of you may recall that I spoke of a series of O.B. dance inserts for the Engelbert Humperdinck Show where every one of them involved some sort of monumental cock-up. One further shoot in that series which I have just remembered was a Christmas number, so with Stewart Morris directing, it simply had to be shot in snow. The location was a clearing in a forest within an army camp in Hampshire. The dance routine was carefully rehearsed on the location and then it was time for the snow. The army provided a couple of fire engines with foam attachments and while the dancers and crew took a meal break, a bunch of squaddies were ordered to cover everything in foam, which they did most enthusiastically, even managing to cover the tops of the highest trees because as we all know, Stewart would have settled for nothing less. The first problem came to light when somebody was walking across the clearing and simply disappeared, throwing up a comedy plume of foam as he sunk below the surface. Being army land, they had dug trenches in all sorts of random places, but when you cover them with foam, they become completely indiscernible. One of the squaddies rushing to his aid vanished into the unseen trench in a similar manner. The remaining squaddies were issued with bamboo sticks and instructed to prod the ground and mark places where there were trenches. The more observant amongst us might be wondering how this could possibly tie in with a thread about BBC monitoring loudspeakers? Well the dancers needed foldback speakers and this was achieved by using a number of fairly large BBC monitor speakers. I can?t remember the exact model number, but they were the best part of a metre high, about 500mm wide and 400mm deep, painted grey and with sturdy handles either side so that they could be laughingly referred to as portable speakers by people who never had to carry loads of them into a forest. When the squaddies were tasked with covering everything in foam, they didn?t worry about those solid looking boxes. They looked pretty rugged and would doubtless cope with a bit of foam. Upon returning, we were alarmed when we saw what had been done to our speakers. We wiped off as much foam as possible and tentatively tried them. It sounded rather like what we hear these days when listening to an iPhone playing music through its internal speaker. The paper cones of the speakers had turned into porridge and the tiny bit of sound being produced was from the plasticised tweeter and more easily heard by dogs rather than humans. We didn?t have any spare speakers and the routine needed to be recorded, so the sound crew positioned ourselves as close to the speakers as possible to hear whatever we could and conducted with our hands so that the dancers could see the tempo wherever they looked. The floor manager was listening to the production secretary on long lead cans ( no radio talkback in those days ) and shouted out the bar count - 1, 2,3,4:2,2,3,4:3,2,3,4:4,2,3,4 etc. Stewart came up with the brilliant idea of getting the crew to sing along to the track, but it was soon abandoned in order to avoid unnecessary cruelty to the dancers and besides, they were supposed to be smiling alluringly, not laughing uncontrollably! Alan Taylor -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pat.heigham at amps.net Mon Dec 30 09:20:53 2019 From: pat.heigham at amps.net (patheigham) Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2019 15:20:53 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] attached pictures (spoiler - steam trains!) In-Reply-To: <000c01d5be3a$8f3a9760$adafc620$@sky.com> References: <596723100.7087564.1577567370343.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <596723100.7087564.1577567370343@mail.yahoo.com> <000c01d5be3a$8f3a9760$adafc620$@sky.com> Message-ID: <5e0a15d5.1c69fb81.983c.ebcc@mx.google.com> No worries about steam train spoiler! One of my Grandfather?s was fond of steam trains, and lived on Watford Way. At about 4 or 5 years old, I was taken to a bridge across the road one evening to see (I think the Flying Scotsman hurtling past). I was more affected when Granddad took me to King?s Cross to see the trains. It had been raining and the carriages had water dripping from the gutters ? I remember that clearly and wondered from where they had come. Maybe that instilled in me the need to travel which was realised with my career in feature films. On Fiddler on the Roof, the studio sets completed, there was just one sequence left to shoot ? where Tevye?s daughter catches a train to join her reactionary boyfriend in Kiev. Norman (Jewison) had visions of a great, wide, snowy scene, like Dr. Zhivago, but there was no snow anywhere that February. Location scouts were looking in Canada, Norway, Finland to no avail. Thus we returned to Yugoslavia, and shot on a branch loop of a railway to play on. Snow machines dressed the acting area, and great swathes of white polythene sheeting over the background fields, suitably soft focus. Playing trains is always fun, and the tea/lunch breaks were organised with a little diesel shunter pushing a couple of flat trucks that the caterers had loaded with trestle tables, white table cloths fluttering gaily! A moment that was straight out of a comedy sketch:- the painters had prepared a stencil for the Russian eagle to be painted on the action engine?s tender. As the painter turned back from loading his brush and applied it to the stencil, the engine suddenly moved off! Nice black line along the tender! And the number of times I?ve shot on the Bluebell ? both int. and ext. When I was little I loved to stand above a tunnel entrance and be enveloped in steam/smoke/soot as the engine passed right underneath! Another story: ?Eye of the Needle? This was a film starring Donald Sutherland as a Nazi agent operating in England during WW2. I was brought in (by Claude Hitchcock ? Mixer) with whom I had previously worked, to rig the silent stage at Shepperton with PA gear for the Director to give instructions to the artistes on board a fishing boat in a storm sequence. Subsequently, this extended to keeping me on for a night shoot on the Watercress Line, for a shot where the agent had to jump off the train. No sound effects were required, as these had all been picked up previously, and my job was to look after all the W/T kit. As I didn?t fancy sitting in my cold car (it was November!) I offered my services as a temporary Assistant Director, with a walkie-talkie. ?Oh, Pat! Would you?? ?Yes, but one condition ? I?m the one that rides with the driver on the footplate!? (This being calculated as being possibly the warmest place!) This established ? we rehearsed in daylight, with the stunt double doing his bit. Come the night, a few takes were shot, until the engine driver asked me how many more times were we to chuff up and down. We hadn?t yet got a suitable take, so I asked him why. Apparently, the original plan had been to transport all the lighting kit up the line in the afternoon, then back to the station to pick up any extra stuff needed, where the engine would take on more water. This never happened, so the engine was running low on water. There was enough for one more run. Over the radio came the query ? what if we need one more? Driver?s answer: ?Tell ?em it?ll f*ck*ng blow up!? The next take was perfect! Oh! The fun of movies!! Pat Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Dave Buckley via Tech1 Sent: 29 December 2019 11:24 To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk Subject: Re: [Tech1] attached pictures (spoiler - steam trains!) For further info on two of the photos taken on the Bluebell Railway (nos.14 and 7) see the link below and other pages on the site. https://www.bulleidsociety.org/21C123/21C123_Preservation.html Dave Buckley -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Anyone have such a picture, know about it, or have another as clear as possible monochrome overlay piccy? -- Best Regards Alec Alec Bray alec.bray.2 at gmail.com mob: 07789 561 346 home: 0118 981 7502 From martin at theeccles.uk Mon Dec 30 11:07:37 2019 From: martin at theeccles.uk (Martin Eccles) Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2019 17:07:37 -0000 Subject: [Tech1] Magicians In-Reply-To: <37b625be-ea0b-3e9c-9dc9-5672614bad4b@gmail.com> References: <19043ddd-872f-f721-9484-fd0adfb017f8@btinternet.com> <5e09f77e.1c69fb81.b51f.6c31@mx.google.com> <37b625be-ea0b-3e9c-9dc9-5672614bad4b@gmail.com> Message-ID: <006401d5bf33$a32054a0$e960fde0$@theeccles.uk> Hi Alec, On this compilation there is the ballerina tv illusion at 3' 09" in. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnpwWnYdgNA Martin. -----Original Message----- From: Tech1 On Behalf Of Alec Bray via Tech1 Sent: 30 December 2Ccompilation019 16:49 To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk Subject: Re: [Tech1] Magicians Hi all, I have been trawling t'Internet for a picture of David Nixon with a ballerina on his hand - without success - to illustrate Overlay before CSO. Anyone have such a picture, know about it, or have another as clear as possible monochrome overlay piccy? -- Best Regards Alec Alec Bray alec.bray.2 at gmail.com mob: 07789 561 346 home: 0118 981 7502 -- Tech1 mailing list Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pat.heigham at amps.net Mon Dec 30 12:15:14 2019 From: pat.heigham at amps.net (patheigham) Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2019 18:15:14 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Magicians In-Reply-To: <37b625be-ea0b-3e9c-9dc9-5672614bad4b@gmail.com> References: <19043ddd-872f-f721-9484-fd0adfb017f8@btinternet.com> <5e09f77e.1c69fb81.b51f.6c31@mx.google.com> <37b625be-ea0b-3e9c-9dc9-5672614bad4b@gmail.com> Message-ID: <5e0a3eb2.1c69fb81.a3697.6e3c@mx.google.com> I remember a ?trick? he performed in the TVT, where he beckoned the boom down and ?pretented? to cut the mic cable. (a collusion between the sound mixer to mute the boom and a spare bit of matching cable). Simple but effective for the audience! Pat Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Alec Bray via Tech1 Sent: 30 December 2019 16:48 To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk Subject: Re: [Tech1] Magicians Hi all, I have been trawling t'Internet for a picture of David Nixon with a ballerina on his hand - without success - to illustrate Overlay before CSO. Anyone have such a picture, know about it, or have another as clear as possible monochrome overlay piccy? -- Best Regards Alec -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From johna.bennett at talktalk.net Mon Dec 30 12:44:48 2019 From: johna.bennett at talktalk.net (John Bennett) Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2019 18:44:48 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] BBC LS3/1 In-Reply-To: <123bb065-a786-8a2b-aa1b-fecc3c5ef34a@howell61.f9.co.uk> References: <5e079d45.1c69fb81.695c5.7bca@mx.google.com> <123bb065-a786-8a2b-aa1b-fecc3c5ef34a@howell61.f9.co.uk> Message-ID: I found some pictures on Google. A Japanese company has recently sold two LS1/3s (at $3,000 dollars the pair) https://www.hifido.co.jp/sold/?KW=B&G=0201&LNG=E&O=0&L=10&C=11-56680-94650-00 Cheers?? John On 28/12/2019 22:18, John Howell via Tech1 wrote: > > Time to re-present my miniature LS3/1 & LSU10, both contain tiny class > D amplifiers powered by 3 rechargeable 'AAA' cells. They? pump out 3 > Watts but it is the devil of a job stopping the guts from rattling. > The LS3 is charged via crock clips on the handles. > > > A happy and prosperous New Year to all > > John Howell. > > -- John Bennett 07768 527518 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alanaudio at me.com Mon Dec 30 14:03:02 2019 From: alanaudio at me.com (Alan Taylor) Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2019 20:03:02 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] BBC LS3/1 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <381A59DA-AC91-4032-A86F-E5B6A71CF591@me.com> They?re the type of speakers I was trying to describe in my anecdote about the chaotic Stewart Morris snow scene. I guessed they might have been LS/3s, but was hesitant to specifically call them that in view of the number of very knowledgable people here, but those pictures left no doubt. Alan Taylor > On 30 Dec 2019, at 18:45, John Bennett via Tech1 wrote: > > ? > I found some pictures on Google. A Japanese company has recently sold two LS1/3s (at $3,000 dollars the pair) > > https://www.hifido.co.jp/sold/?KW=B&G=0201&LNG=E&O=0&L=10&C=11-56680-94650-00 > > Cheers John > > > > On 28/12/2019 22:18, John Howell via Tech1 wrote: >> Time to re-present my miniature LS3/1 & LSU10, both contain tiny class D amplifiers powered by 3 rechargeable 'AAA' cells. They pump out 3 Watts but it is the devil of a job stopping the guts from rattling. The LS3 is charged via crock clips on the handles. >> >> >> >> A happy and prosperous New Year to all >> >> John Howell. >> >> > -- > John Bennett > 07768 527518 > -- > Tech1 mailing list > Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Although his passing was not unexpected it has still come as a dreadful shock to us all. We will miss his ready smile and wonderful sense of humour. I first met Chris when I joined Crew 3 in 1966 as a newly arrived trainee. He extended the hand of friendship and we became close friends and work colleagues over the next 53 years, both in Tech Ops and latterly at Tel OBs and into retirement. All we can do now is mourn his passing and send our love to Heather and Jonathan. Rest in peace Chris. Robin Sutherland -- Announce mailing list Announce at tech-ops.co.uk http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce_tech-ops.co.uk From dave.mdv at btinternet.com Mon Dec 30 14:44:20 2019 From: dave.mdv at btinternet.com (dave.mdv) Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2019 20:44:20 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] Akihabara In-Reply-To: References: <5e079d45.1c69fb81.695c5.7bca@mx.google.com> <123bb065-a786-8a2b-aa1b-fecc3c5ef34a@howell61.f9.co.uk> Message-ID: <0d196df8-8e28-90c6-6091-7ebadc0ed12a@btinternet.com> A true Aladdin's Cave! Imagine Lisle street, Edgware Road, Tottenham Court Road, Cricklewood Broadway and a dash of Englefield Green all together in a compact area in Tokyo and you have the best technical shopping area I have ever seen! Lots of dosh has been spent there over the years by BBC crews on away jobs. Happy days. Cheers, Dave. From bernie833 at gmail.com Mon Dec 30 14:49:36 2019 From: bernie833 at gmail.com (Bernard Newnham) Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2019 20:49:36 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] [Announce] Chris Wickham In-Reply-To: <00c201d5bf50$5635e840$02a1b8c0$@gmail.com> References: <00c201d5bf50$5635e840$02a1b8c0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <19f326c8-ef4d-82e7-3cb4-a0d5c6a419cf@ntlworld.com> Indeed - Chris was a good chap. I didn't see him very often but we got on very well, he always had a fun quip.? Already much missed. B On 30/12/2019 20:33, geoff.hawkes134--- via Tech1 wrote: > Sad news indeed. Chris was a gentleman and I never heard him put anyone down > with a cutting word. I always felt comfortable being with him and he will be > much missed, not least for his sideways look at life and his good humour, > Geoff Hawkes > > -----Original Message----- > From: Announce On Behalf Of Robin > Sutherland via Announce > Sent: 30 December 2019 16:42 > To: TechOps Announce > Subject: [Announce] Chris Wickham > > Hi Bernie > > I learnt the sad news that Chris Wickham passed away earlier today. He had > been diagnosed with cancer of the liver last summer and had dealt with the > illness with dignity and bravery over the following months. > > Although his passing was not unexpected it has still come as a dreadful > shock to us all. We will miss his ready smile and wonderful sense of humour. > > I first met Chris when I joined Crew 3 in 1966 as a newly arrived trainee. > He extended the hand of friendship and we became close friends and work > colleagues over the next 53 years, both in Tech Ops and latterly at Tel OBs > and into retirement. > > All we can do now is mourn his passing and send our love to Heather and > Jonathan. > > Rest in peace Chris. > > Robin Sutherland -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Meeting a current magician who revered him took me on a trawl of IMDB and of YouTube to find a few copies, probably of telerecordings that appear to be off Philips or VHS.? No matter, they're enough of a reminder of an extraordinary talent; one that Chan spent time repeating for Crew 6 as I recall, with Ken Major amongst us, all gathered around. We were still none the wiser about how he did it, but does anyone else remember working with him - or having the odd recording? Hugh -- Tech1 mailing list Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vernon.dyer at btinternet.com Mon Dec 30 18:19:16 2019 From: vernon.dyer at btinternet.com (vernon.dyer) Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2019 00:19:16 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] [Announce] Chris Wickham Message-ID: Sorry to hear of Chris's passing. I too worked with him on Crew 3, and got on very well with him, as I think we all did.?At the risk of starting? (or re-starting) a whole new thread, he and? (I think) Steve B were The Pondskater and The Waterboatman, but I can't remember which was which.?Happy New Year to all? .....? Vern?Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.-------- Original message --------> Hi Bernie>> I learnt the sad news that Chris Wickham passed away earlier today. He had> been diagnosed with cancer of the liver last summer and had dealt with the> illness with dignity and bravery over the following months.>> Although his passing was not unexpected it has still come as a dreadful> shock to us all. We will miss his ready smile and wonderful sense of humour.>> I first met Chris when I joined Crew 3 in 1966 as a newly arrived trainee.> He extended the hand of friendship and we became close friends and work> colleagues over the next 53 years, both in Tech Ops and latterly at Tel OBs> and into retirement.>> All we can do now is mourn his passing and send our love to Heather and> Jonathan.>> Rest in peace Chris.>> Robin Sutherland> --> Announce mailing list> Announce at tech-ops.co.uk> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce_tech-ops.co.uk>-- Announce mailing listAnnounce at tech-ops.co.ukhttp://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce_tech-ops.co.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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He always claimed that no camera trickery would be used in any of his conjuring tricks, EXCEPT that once in each episode there would be a sequence (often a musical interlude or dance routine), which deliberately used electronic effects - often Luminance Overlay. Later, Dave Jervis resurrected Luminance Overlay, combining it with C.S.O., in order to generate shadows for overlay foreground figures. First a crude Luminance Overlay image was created, of person with shadow, and plonked onto the background. Then a cleaner C.S.O. image of the person, without a shadow, was plonked on top of both. In combination this created a colour foreground person with matching monochrome shadow. He used a similar technique to overlay transparent foregrounds, such as glass or smoke. In colour days, I worked on a David Nixon programme at TV Theatre, which used a very early C.S.O. sequence.The action happened in a single static shot. David Nixon was sitting on a stool, at a bar, staring in disbelief at a young lady dancer, who was performing a striptease - except - the young lady was invisible, and she was performing her act in reverse, i.e. slowly, sexily, and in time to the music, she was putting her clothes ON! In reality, the dancer was on a separate camera, dressed entirely in a blue body-stocking, in front of a blue backdrop. This rendered her invisible in the composite image. Parts of her began to appear, only as she put on clothing, over her blue costume. Slowly and seductively, she pulled up her first stocking and, inch by inch, a single female leg appeared in mid-air. Then came a second stocking, and two disembodied legs were dancing enticingly. More of her figure took shape as she put on her underwear, then her top clothes. Finally, fully-dressed but headless, she pulled off her blue head covering to reveal her face. 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I am guessing that in luminance overlay, the switch was made at a certain level of the video signal, so features of the overlaid picture had to be above that level - which may explain why the overlay picture looks wrongly exposed (in examples I have seen). I have to thank publicly Martin Eccles who pointed me to a compilation which included David Nixon and the Ballerina. And it is interesting to see, from Bernie, how much easier the use of colour and colour separation has made to construction of some visual effects. My job now is to try to work out how much of all the material I now have - thanks to many people on Tech Ops email - I can cram into a one hour talk! -- Best Regards Alec Alec Bray alec.bray.2 at gmail.com mob: 07789 561 346 home: 0118 981 7502 From paulvictork at uwclub.net Tue Dec 31 13:56:23 2019 From: paulvictork at uwclub.net (paulvictork at uwclub.net) Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2019 19:56:23 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] [Announce] Chris Wickham In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1577822183.u91yyae1w0ww4ws0@webmail.uwclub.net> So sorry to len of Chris`s passing. We worked together on numerous occasions. RIP Chris On Tue, 31 Dec 2019 00:19:16 +0000, "vernon.dyer via Tech1" <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote: Sorry to hear of Chris's passing. I too worked with him on Crew 3, and got on very well with him, as I think we all did.    At the risk of starting  (or re-starting) a whole new thread, he and  (I think) Steve B were The Pondskater and The Waterboatman, but I can't remember which was which.    Happy New Year to all  .....  Vern        Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone. -------- Original message --------   > Hi Bernie > > I learnt the sad news that Chris Wickham passed away earlier today. He had > been diagnosed with cancer of the liver last summer and had dealt with the > illness with dignity and bravery over the following months. > > Although his passing was not unexpected it has still come as a dreadful > shock to us all. We will miss his ready smile and wonderful sense of humour. > > I first met Chris when I joined Crew 3 in 1966 as a newly arrived trainee. > He extended the hand of friendship and we became close friends and work > colleagues over the next 53 years, both in Tech Ops and latterly at Tel OBs > and into retirement. > > All we can do now is mourn his passing and send our love to Heather and > Jonathan. > > Rest in peace Chris. > > Robin Sutherland > -- > Announce mailing list > Announce at tech-ops.co.uk > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce_tech-ops.co.uk > -- Announce mailing list Announce at tech-ops.co.uk http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce_tech-ops.co.uk -- Tech1 mailing list Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Before colour, it was simply "Overlay" I am guessing that in luminance overlay, the switch was made at a certain level of the video signal, so features of the overlaid picture had to be above that level - which may explain why the overlay picture looks wrongly exposed (in examples I have seen). > > I have to thank publicly Martin Eccles who pointed me to a compilation which included David Nixon and the Ballerina. > > And it is interesting to see, from Bernie, how much easier the use of colour and colour separation has made to construction of some visual effects. > > My job now is to try to work out how much of all the material I now have - thanks to many people on Tech Ops email - I can cram into a one hour talk! > > -- > > Best Regards > > Alec > > Alec Bray > > alec.bray.2 at gmail.com > mob: 07789 561 346 > home: 0118 981 7502 > > > > -- > Tech1 mailing list > Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk From j at howell61.f9.co.uk Tue Dec 31 16:27:22 2019 From: j at howell61.f9.co.uk (John Howell) Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2019 22:27:22 +0000 Subject: [Tech1] BBC LS3/1 In-Reply-To: <381A59DA-AC91-4032-A86F-E5B6A71CF591@me.com> References: <381A59DA-AC91-4032-A86F-E5B6A71CF591@me.com> Message-ID: <93ce0d00-7774-a92b-d257-320f879f5654@howell61.f9.co.uk> I thought the LS3 was originally designed for use in OB scanners. If you look at those pictures in the Japanese sale the aperture in the front is very much smaller than would normally be associated with such a large speaker chassis. This was done to increase the dispersion of the sound over a wider area because the ls's were inevitably very close to the occupants. John H. On 30/12/2019 20:03, Alan Taylor via Tech1 wrote: > /*They?re the type of speakers I was trying to describe in my anecdote > about the chaotic Stewart Morris snow scene. */ > /* > */ > /*I guessed they might have been LS/3s, but was hesitant to > specifically call them that in view of the number of very knowledgable > people here, but those pictures left no doubt. */ > /* > */ > /*Alan Taylor*/ > >> On 30 Dec 2019, at 18:45, John Bennett via Tech1 >> wrote: >> >> ? >> >> I found some pictures on Google. A Japanese company has recently sold >> two LS1/3s (at $3,000 dollars the pair) >> >> https://www.hifido.co.jp/sold/?KW=B&G=0201&LNG=E&O=0&L=10&C=11-56680-94650-00 >> >> Cheers?? John >> >> >> >> On 28/12/2019 22:18, John Howell via Tech1 wrote: >>> >>> Time to re-present my miniature LS3/1 & LSU10, both contain tiny >>> class D amplifiers powered by 3 rechargeable 'AAA' cells. They? pump >>> out 3 Watts but it is the devil of a job stopping the guts from >>> rattling. The LS3 is charged via crock clips on the handles. >>> >>> >>> A happy and prosperous New Year to all >>> >>> John Howell. >>> >>> >> -- >> John Bennett >> 07768 527518 >> -- >> Tech1 mailing list >> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk >> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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This was done to increase the dispersion of the sound over a wider area because the ls's were inevitably very close to the occupants. > > John H. > > > > > > On 30/12/2019 20:03, Alan Taylor via Tech1 wrote: >> They?re the type of speakers I was trying to describe in my anecdote about the chaotic Stewart Morris snow scene. >> >> I guessed they might have been LS/3s, but was hesitant to specifically call them that in view of the number of very knowledgable people here, but those pictures left no doubt. >> >> Alan Taylor >> >>> On 30 Dec 2019, at 18:45, John Bennett via Tech1 wrote: >>> >>> ? >>> I found some pictures on Google. A Japanese company has recently sold two LS1/3s (at $3,000 dollars the pair) >>> https://www.hifido.co.jp/sold/?KW=B&G=0201&LNG=E&O=0&L=10&C=11-56680-94650-00 >>> Cheers John >>> >>> >>> >>> On 28/12/2019 22:18, John Howell via Tech1 wrote: >>>> Time to re-present my miniature LS3/1 & LSU10, both contain tiny class D amplifiers powered by 3 rechargeable 'AAA' cells. They pump out 3 Watts but it is the devil of a job stopping the guts from rattling. The LS3 is charged via crock clips on the handles. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> A happy and prosperous New Year to all >>>> >>>> John Howell. >>>> >>>> >>> -- >>> John Bennett >>> 07768 527518 >>> -- >>> Tech1 mailing list >>> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk >>> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk >> > -- > Tech1 mailing list > Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk > http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: