From patheigham at amps.net  Sat Sep  1 07:03:33 2018
From: patheigham at amps.net (patrickheigham)
Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2018 13:03:33 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Cinema
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When Waterloo had the News Theatre, I sometimes deliberately
missed my train to stay and see Tom & Jerry!
It had an amazing rake on the screen as the projection room was
high up in the roof.
I don't go so much to the 'public' cinemas now - too much smell of
burgers and popcorn. However the three small cinemas above HMV
in Wimbledon are bearable, and one can take wine into the
auditorium.
Being a member of the Film Guilds, there are screenings put on
at Pinewood, in the prestigious Theatre 7 - renamed The John Barry
Theatre. Always good projection and sound, although in recent years,
if it was a US film, I preferred to rent it on disc and switch the subtitles
on!
Pinewood have now installed a desk for final mix-downs, and plonked
it right where the best seats were (of course!).
As to costs, now - I've been treating friends to '42nd Street' - seen it
7 times, absolutely brilliant show, but the best seats in the centre of the
front row of the Royal Circle are ?125! They do have a huge cast to
pay, plus quite a large band, though.

Best
Pat
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From: "dave.mdv via Tech1" <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
To: <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 9:28 PM
Subject: [Tech1] Cinema


> The Boss and I have just been to see 'Mission Impossible' and I am quite 
> exhausted! If it hadn't been for the luxury reclining seats and a large 
> glass of Shiraz I don't know how I would have coped! To think that I used 
> to spend a measly 9d.(4? p.) to see two films, plus Path? News, plus 
> trailers, plus Pearl & Dean ads., how things have changed! It only cost 
> ?33.75 for the afternoon treat as well! A bargain, I hear you say! Cheers, 
> Dave



From johnhcox at gmail.com  Sat Sep  1 08:24:01 2018
From: johnhcox at gmail.com (John Cox)
Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2018 14:24:01 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] technical problems
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Thank you Bernard for sorting out the problem with the tech-ops page I join with Dave.mdv to thank you.
I knew you had a bird box but didn?t know you had a charabanc ?Diligence? (www.britannica.com) I?ve only got a small car!
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From alec.bray.2 at gmail.com  Sat Sep  1 10:00:21 2018
From: alec.bray.2 at gmail.com (Alec Bray)
Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2018 16:00:21 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Technical Problems
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Hi,

On 31/08/2018 22:24, dave.mdv via Tech1 wrote:

> I didn't understand any of his explanation as to why they buggered up 
> our newsgroup!

(Un)fortunately, I do, as in 1985 I moved from teaching to an IT company 
(TSL Communications) - and we were all about networking: we were at the 
birth of email and of the internet as we now know it. Back then, 
Ethernet needed an inch thick cable and was very limited in length!

We then (a? long and interesting story) moved into network management - 
how to configure and manage routers and hubs? remotely and to spot 
network faults. This is the sort of thing that happens when you report 
problems with broadband and "they" fix it remotely for you. Microsoft 
bought the company - and then killed the product.

So I can only echo Dave's statement:? "...Bernie deserves a medal for 
his diligence..."? I can fully appreciate how much time and effort and 
worry that Bernie puts into keeping the (wonderful) Tech Ops website 
running for all of us!

-- 

Best Regards

Alec

Alec Bray

alec.bray.2 at gmail.com
mob:    07789 561 346
home:   0118 981 7502

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From bernie833 at gmail.com  Sat Sep  1 14:48:34 2018
From: bernie833 at gmail.com (Bernard Newnham)
Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2018 20:48:34 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] technical problems
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Thanks to all for the thanks!? It is of course a hobby - keeps my brain 
working.? And actually doesn't take up much time, except when it goes 
wrong.

And John, I do have a bird box (no birds) but no charabanc. I do have a 
Cobra which I built a while back

cheers

B



On 01/09/2018 14:24, John Cox via Tech1 wrote:
>
> Thank you Bernard for sorting out the problem with the tech-ops page I 
> join with Dave.mdv to thank you.
>
> I knew you had a bird box but didn?t know you had a charabanc 
> ?Diligence? (www.britannica.com <http://www.britannica.com>) I?ve only 
> got a small car!
>
> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for 
> Windows 10
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From rogerbunce at btinternet.com  Sun Sep  2 08:42:34 2018
From: rogerbunce at btinternet.com (ROGER BUNCE)
Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2018 13:42:34 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Tech1] Mat Irvine
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A rather nice little video of Mat Irvine, demonstrating some of his Visual Effects work, has appeared on a Facebook group. I'm here endeavouring to share it. (I may fail!)
Try this -?BBC Archive
  
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I think it worked!
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From bernie833 at gmail.com  Tue Sep  4 06:29:42 2018
From: bernie833 at gmail.com (Bernard Newnham)
Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2018 12:29:42 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Facebook conversation
Message-ID: <0d8af6e3-af1d-8be5-8581-1c355fe1c1c0@gmail.com>

This was part of a conversation in the Memories of Television Centre 
Facebook group. I found it interesting.....
*
Steve Roberts * No, we were still cutting on film until a few years 
later than that (Miss Marple). There were certain shows that tried other 
approaches, such as Lovejoy, which transferred rushes rolls to Betacam 
SP and cut the show on tape. Later we went to a long-cut neg where the 
rushes were telecined and then the show cut on Avid to produced a 
cutting list which was used to cut the shots from the negs together into 
a single ?long cut? roll, with each shot having a few frames ?handle? on 
either end. This was telecined onto Digibeta and then an automated edit 
was performed to an edit decision list generated by Avid to remove all 
the handles. Later episodes of Jonathan Creek were cut that way.

*Koen Braem* How interesting, I assumed film editing had gone out of 
fashion somewhere in the second half of the eighties. If I understand 
correctly what you're saying, the 'long cut' approach involves going 
*twice* through the telecine process, is that right? (My layman's guess 
is that making a really good transfer is so time consuming it pays to do 
a rough transfer first and only do a really good one of those bits you 
actually need in the final edit, but perhaps I'm talking crap now.)

*Steve Roberts *Yeah - the labs produce a rushes transfer from the negs 
after they develop them anyway so that the director and DoP can check 
their results. They're generally just a quick transfer though. For best 
results you want to do a high-quality telecine from the cut negs later. 
You probably know this anyway, but the traditional method cutting 16mm 
film was to cut the shots into two separate rolls, one containing all 
the odd numbered shots separated by spacing and the other containing all 
the even numbered shots separated by spacing. The length of spacing on 
each roll matched the length of the shot on the other roll. So you would 
do two passes through an optical printer, exposing the shots from the 
first roll, with the blanking protecting the areas that would take the 
shots from the second roll from being exposed. Then you run the second 
roll through and that prints into the previously unexposed spaces, 
whilst the blanking protects those shots that had just been exposed in 
from the first roll. Develop the film and you then have a positive print 
of the entire show on one roll of film. This might seem an odd thing to 
do, but it had to be done like this because the rack bars between frames 
on 16mm are so small that it's impossible to cleanly join two frames 
together without the splice showing as a flash at the top and bottom of 
screen.

However, when you later come to telecine these negs, you run into a 
problem. The splices catch slightly in the gate sprockets of the 
telecine or scanner and you get a little bounce a few frames before the 
cut, which you then have to digitally stabilise out. Long-cut was a way 
of shifting the splices physically away from the shot change, so that 
any instability caused by the splice didn't affect the shots you 
actually needed. ITV had another system (used on London's Burning) where 
they assembled all of the shots into AB rolls roll but didn't intercut 
them with spacing - so if you had sequence that was switching between 
two different people talking, for example, you would get all of the 
shots of the first person on the A roll and all of the shots of the 
second person on the B roll. Again, the EDL that generated the 
neg-cutting list also generated an edit list to automatically control 
the VTRs to put everything down on tape in the correct order. We were 
once presented with those cut negs but without the EDL to go with it and 
asked if was possible to remaster it from the neg, but we had to tell 
them that the only way to do it would be to eye-match every shot against 
a copy of the episode as transmitted. The costs of doing so were 
enormous, so it wasn't financially viable to remaster London's Burning 
from the camera negs, sadly.

*Koen Braem* Ah, I never realised rescanning old programmes that don't 
exist as a finished edit on film is usually done by going back to lists 
of timecode that were generated at the time (if I understand correctly 
what you'e saying) - I naively assumed it always in?See More

*Steve Roberts* There's a company called Illuminate in the US that 
developed a technique to auto-match rushes transfers with their use in 
the final edit which can speed up the process when eye-matching is the 
only other alternative. It was used extensively on Star Trek: The Next 
Generation, X-Files and Pee-Wee's Playhouse. There's a video on this 
page showing the process: http://www.illuminatehollywood.com/restoration/

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From teateatone2 at gmail.com  Wed Sep  5 04:31:30 2018
From: teateatone2 at gmail.com (Tony Grant)
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2018 10:31:30 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Any ideas for composite decking?
Message-ID: <CAEMv0RN0vf0675mv=Gz8L1+29STyW=z7PNd4thR92+kX+juUeA@mail.gmail.com>

Good morning,

I'm contemplating having some decking in part of the garden, and if so,
would probably go for composite, since I'm not going to be willing (or
able!) to keep maintaining it over the coming years. Have you got any
ideas, suggestions, caveats with what to look out for, etc.?

TeaTeaFN - Tony
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From vernon.dyer at btinternet.com  Wed Sep  5 05:54:18 2018
From: vernon.dyer at btinternet.com (vernon.dyer)
Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2018 11:54:18 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Any ideas for composite decking?
Message-ID: <f20ldo9vr5lnf1s82boqy57b.1536144858570@email.android.com>


Well, I can't really offer any advice, but just to say we had composite decking put down about 18 months ago and we're delighted with it. Much more expensive than wood, but worth it, non-slip when wet and shouldn't need any maintenance apart from a quick hose down now and then.?Best wishes - Vern?

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.-------- Original message --------From: Tony Grant via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> Date: 05/09/2018  10:31  (GMT+00:00) To: TechOps Forum <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> Subject: [Tech1] Any ideas for composite decking? 
Good morning,
I'm contemplating having some decking in part of the garden, and if so, would probably go for composite, since I'm not going to be willing (or able!) to keep maintaining it over the coming years. Have you got any ideas, suggestions, caveats with what to look out for, etc.?
TeaTeaFN - Tony
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From waresound at msn.com  Wed Sep  5 07:31:28 2018
From: waresound at msn.com (Nick Ware)
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2018 12:31:28 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Any ideas for composite decking?
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A neighbour of mine spent a lot of money having fairly extensive decking put down about eight years ago in his back garden, and very nice it was. Now, in the last couple of months he?s had it all taken up and replaced with posh paving slabs because the decking was a perfect haven for rats. Unfortunately we have an ongoing problem with some scruffy inconsiderate other neighbours nearby who leave out food waste and packaging that attracts rats. They of course deny that they are the cause of the problem. We never had rats before they came along, and it?s not (dare I say?) the sort of area you?d expect rats.
My advice would be, know your neighbours? habits before considering decking.
I hope that doesn?t sound pessimistic or negative, but it is worth being aware.
Best regards,
Nick.
Sent from my iPad

On 5 Sep 2018, at 11:32, Tony Grant via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk<mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>> wrote:

Good morning,

I'm contemplating having some decking in part of the garden, and if so, would probably go for composite, since I'm not going to be willing (or able!) to keep maintaining it over the coming years. Have you got any ideas, suggestions, caveats with what to look out for, etc.?

TeaTeaFN - Tony
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From peter.fox at tiscali.co.uk  Wed Sep  5 08:14:00 2018
From: peter.fox at tiscali.co.uk (Peter Fox)
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2018 14:14:00 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Any ideas for composite decking?
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From Waresound at msn.com  Wed Sep  5 08:34:13 2018
From: Waresound at msn.com (Nick Ware)
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2018 13:34:13 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Any ideas for composite decking?
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Actually, an interesting irrelevancy maybe, but I?ve got to know the local Council pest controller quite well in the last couple of years. He used to work full-time for the Borough Council until he was made redundant and pest control was outsourced to an outside company. That company? Him! Now he says he earns far more than he did as a Council employee. If I call the Council for pest control assistance, the service is free, but as a local tax payer paying ?306.00 per month (x10 PA) I have to wonder how free?! And then there?s the bin men, the recycling centre, etc., etc. All outsourced.
Nick.
Sent from my iPad

On 5 Sep 2018, at 15:14, Peter Fox <peter.fox at tiscali.co.uk<mailto:peter.fox at tiscali.co.uk>> wrote:

I concur with Nick, although our neighbour wasn't in denial about Roland and family. He also paid out twice by replacing the decking next to the house with slates. In fact he paid out three times because he had a new decking of grey painted wood put at the top of the garden instead, and within months (it seemed,) it started curling up and warping here and there. I know nothing about composite decking but if it doesn't warp then go for it! At least the rats all left

Peter F

On 05/09/2018 13:31, Nick Ware via Tech1 wrote:
A neighbour of mine spent a lot of money having fairly extensive decking put down about eight years ago in his back garden, and very nice it was. Now, in the last couple of months he?s had it all taken up and replaced with posh paving slabs because the decking was a perfect haven for rats. Unfortunately we have an ongoing problem with some scruffy inconsiderate other neighbours nearby who leave out food waste and packaging that attracts rats. They of course deny that they are the cause of the problem. We never had rats before they came along, and it?s not (dare I say?) the sort of area you?d expect rats.
My advice would be, know your neighbours? habits before considering decking.
I hope that doesn?t sound pessimistic or negative, but it is worth being aware.
Best regards,
Nick.
Sent from my iPad

On 5 Sep 2018, at 11:32, Tony Grant via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk<mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>> wrote:

Good morning,

I'm contemplating having some decking in part of the garden, and if so, would probably go for composite, since I'm not going to be willing (or able!) to keep maintaining it over the coming years. Have you got any ideas, suggestions, caveats with what to look out for, etc.?

TeaTeaFN - Tony
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From geoffletch at gmail.com  Wed Sep  5 09:04:53 2018
From: geoffletch at gmail.com (Geoff Fletcher)
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2018 15:04:53 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Any ideas for composite decking?
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I was just going to point out the rat problem Nick. You beat me to it my
friend. It can be a damn nuscience.
Geoff F

On Wed, 5 Sep 2018 at 14:34, Nick Ware via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
wrote:

> Actually, an interesting irrelevancy maybe, but I?ve got to know the local
> Council pest controller quite well in the last couple of years. He used to
> work full-time for the Borough Council until he was made redundant and pest
> control was outsourced to an outside company. That company? Him! Now he
> says he earns far more than he did as a Council employee. If I call the
> Council for pest control assistance, the service is free, but as a local
> tax payer paying ?306.00 per month (x10 PA) I have to wonder how free?! And
> then there?s the bin men, the recycling centre, etc., etc. All outsourced.
>
> Nick.
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On 5 Sep 2018, at 15:14, Peter Fox <peter.fox at tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
>
> I concur with Nick, although our neighbour wasn't in denial about Roland
> and family. He also paid out twice by replacing the decking next to the
> house with slates. In fact he paid out three times because he had a new
> decking of grey painted wood put at the top of the garden instead, and
> within months (it seemed,) it started curling up and warping here and
> there. I know nothing about composite decking but if it doesn't warp then
> go for it! At least the rats all left
>
> Peter F
>
> On 05/09/2018 13:31, Nick Ware via Tech1 wrote:
>
> A neighbour of mine spent a lot of money having fairly extensive decking
> put down about eight years ago in his back garden, and very nice it was.
> Now, in the last couple of months he?s had it all taken up and replaced
> with posh paving slabs because the decking was a perfect haven for rats.
> Unfortunately we have an ongoing problem with some scruffy inconsiderate
> other neighbours nearby who leave out food waste and packaging that
> attracts rats. They of course deny that they are the cause of the problem.
> We never had rats before they came along, and it?s not (dare I say?) the
> sort of area you?d expect rats.
> My advice would be, know your neighbours? habits before considering
> decking.
> I hope that doesn?t sound pessimistic or negative, but it is worth being
> aware.
> Best regards,
> Nick.
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On 5 Sep 2018, at 11:32, Tony Grant via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
> Good morning,
>
> I'm contemplating having some decking in part of the garden, and if so,
> would probably go for composite, since I'm not going to be willing (or
> able!) to keep maintaining it over the coming years. Have you got any
> ideas, suggestions, caveats with what to look out for, etc.?
>
> TeaTeaFN - Tony
>
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From chris.booth at froyle.com  Wed Sep  5 09:23:33 2018
From: chris.booth at froyle.com (chris.booth at froyle.com)
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2018 15:23:33 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Any ideas for composite decking?
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I had a large deck installed in 2011 ? the material was a composite, trade name Twinsen.
The only problem was that the planks ?stretched? in the heat and threatened to buckle ? by this time the installer had gone broke, but I managed to find one of his original team to trim and refit the planks.
Still going fine despite that.....and no rats either even though next door neighbour has chicken!
----------
Chris B

From: Geoff Fletcher via Tech1 
Sent: Wednesday, September 5, 2018 3:04 PM
To: Nick Ware 
Cc: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk 
Subject: Re: [Tech1] Any ideas for composite decking?

I was just going to point out the rat problem Nick. You beat me to it my friend. It can be a damn nuscience.
Geoff F

On Wed, 5 Sep 2018 at 14:34, Nick Ware via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:

  Actually, an interesting irrelevancy maybe, but I?ve got to know the local Council pest controller quite well in the last couple of years. He used to work full-time for the Borough Council until he was made redundant and pest control was outsourced to an outside company. That company? Him! Now he says he earns far more than he did as a Council employee. If I call the Council for pest control assistance, the service is free, but as a local tax payer paying ?306.00 per month (x10 PA) I have to wonder how free?! And then there?s the bin men, the recycling centre, etc., etc. All outsourced.

  Nick.

  Sent from my iPad

  On 5 Sep 2018, at 15:14, Peter Fox <peter.fox at tiscali.co.uk> wrote:


    I concur with Nick, although our neighbour wasn't in denial about Roland and family. He also paid out twice by replacing the decking next to the house with slates. In fact he paid out three times because he had a new decking of grey painted wood put at the top of the garden instead, and within months (it seemed,) it started curling up and warping here and there. I know nothing about composite decking but if it doesn't warp then go for it! At least the rats all left

    Peter F


    On 05/09/2018 13:31, Nick Ware via Tech1 wrote:

      A neighbour of mine spent a lot of money having fairly extensive decking put down about eight years ago in his back garden, and very nice it was. Now, in the last couple of months he?s had it all taken up and replaced with posh paving slabs because the decking was a perfect haven for rats. Unfortunately we have an ongoing problem with some scruffy inconsiderate other neighbours nearby who leave out food waste and packaging that attracts rats. They of course deny that they are the cause of the problem. We never had rats before they came along, and it?s not (dare I say?) the sort of area you?d expect rats. 
      My advice would be, know your neighbours? habits before considering decking.
      I hope that doesn?t sound pessimistic or negative, but it is worth being aware. 
      Best regards,
      Nick.

      Sent from my iPad

      On 5 Sep 2018, at 11:32, Tony Grant via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:


        Good morning, 

        I'm contemplating having some decking in part of the garden, and if so, would probably go for composite, since I'm not going to be willing (or able!) to keep maintaining it over the coming years. Have you got any ideas, suggestions, caveats with what to look out for, etc.?

        TeaTeaFN - Tony
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From ohbytheway.tv at gmail.com  Wed Sep  5 09:26:10 2018
From: ohbytheway.tv at gmail.com (David Denness)
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2018 15:26:10 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Any ideas for composite decking?
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Be grateful for outsourcing. It kept you and me employed for many years!

All these ?free? services will be disappearing once the Tory government drop the direct grant to our local councils. Council tax pays less than 20% of the money currently spent by the councils on ?free? services, and they have promised to remove the grant altogether in 2019

 

Dave D

 

From: Tech1 <tech1-bounces at tech-ops.co.uk> On Behalf Of Nick Ware via Tech1
Sent: 05 September 2018 14:34
To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
Subject: Re: [Tech1] Any ideas for composite decking?

 

Actually, an interesting irrelevancy maybe, but I?ve got to know the local Council pest controller quite well in the last couple of years. He used to work full-time for the Borough Council until he was made redundant and pest control was outsourced to an outside company. That company? Him! Now he says he earns far more than he did as a Council employee. If I call the Council for pest control assistance, the service is free, but as a local tax payer paying ?306.00 per month (x10 PA) I have to wonder how free?! And then there?s the bin men, the recycling centre, etc., etc. All outsourced.
Nick.

Sent from my iPad


On 5 Sep 2018, at 15:14, Peter Fox <peter.fox at tiscali.co.uk <mailto:peter.fox at tiscali.co.uk> > wrote:

I concur with Nick, although our neighbour wasn't in denial about Roland and family. He also paid out twice by replacing the decking next to the house with slates. In fact he paid out three times because he had a new decking of grey painted wood put at the top of the garden instead, and within months (it seemed,) it started curling up and warping here and there. I know nothing about composite decking but if it doesn't warp then go for it! At least the rats all left

 

Peter F

 

On 05/09/2018 13:31, Nick Ware via Tech1 wrote:

A neighbour of mine spent a lot of money having fairly extensive decking put down about eight years ago in his back garden, and very nice it was. Now, in the last couple of months he?s had it all taken up and replaced with posh paving slabs because the decking was a perfect haven for rats. Unfortunately we have an ongoing problem with some scruffy inconsiderate other neighbours nearby who leave out food waste and packaging that attracts rats. They of course deny that they are the cause of the problem. We never had rats before they came along, and it?s not (dare I say?) the sort of area you?d expect rats. 

My advice would be, know your neighbours? habits before considering decking.

I hope that doesn?t sound pessimistic or negative, but it is worth being aware. 
Best regards,

Nick.

Sent from my iPad


On 5 Sep 2018, at 11:32, Tony Grant via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk <mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> > wrote:

Good morning, 

 

I'm contemplating having some decking in part of the garden, and if so, would probably go for composite, since I'm not going to be willing (or able!) to keep maintaining it over the coming years. Have you got any ideas, suggestions, caveats with what to look out for, etc.?

 

TeaTeaFN - Tony

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From Waresound at msn.com  Wed Sep  5 15:15:24 2018
From: Waresound at msn.com (Nick Ware)
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2018 20:15:24 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Any ideas for composite decking?
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True Dave, but the bit I have difficulty with is that after all the local government outsourcing, there still seem to be the same number of highly paid managers and bosses, the need for whom is hard to fathom.
And you could argue that much of the work we did was largely funded by advertising - ultimately paid for by the likes of you and me. Though of course, buying what?s advertised is voluntary, so that argument doesn?t work!
A good moment though, to mention that I have much to thank you for.
Cheers,
Nick.
Sent from my iPad

On 5 Sep 2018, at 16:26, David Denness <ohbytheway.tv at gmail.com<mailto:ohbytheway.tv at gmail.com>> wrote:

[snip] Be grateful for outsourcing. It kept you and me employed for many years!

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From teateatone2 at gmail.com  Wed Sep  5 15:22:32 2018
From: teateatone2 at gmail.com (Tony Grant)
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2018 21:22:32 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Any ideas for composite decking?
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Ah, I knew I could find useful advice here. OK, I forgot to mention that
this will be decking raised above ground level, to enjoy the view across
the sea. And we've already had rat problems, since we live in the country,
and there's every kind of animal/bird/insect, etc you could wish to see.
The local council's pest control is good, but we have to pay a fee of ?48.
The best deterrent is a cat, but we don't want to have any animals of our
own.

Anyway, raised decking, so hopefully no extra rat insurgents. I hadn't
thought of heat/expansion problems, and so will need to consider this and
make enquiries of suppliers if we decide to go ahead with the idea. Whilst
mentioning all creatures great and small in passing, we also have newts in
our pond, so mustn't muddy too many waters.

TeaTeaFN - Tony

On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 3:23 PM chris.booth--- via Tech1 <
tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:

> I had a large deck installed in 2011 ? the material was a composite, trade
> name Twinsen.
> The only problem was that the planks ?stretched? in the heat and
> threatened to buckle ? by this time the installer had gone broke, but I
> managed to find one of his original team to trim and refit the planks.
> Still going fine despite that.....and no rats either even though next door
> neighbour has chicken!
> ----------
> Chris B
>
> *From:* Geoff Fletcher via Tech1
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 5, 2018 3:04 PM
> *To:* Nick Ware
> *Cc:* tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
> *Subject:* Re: [Tech1] Any ideas for composite decking?
>
> I was just going to point out the rat problem Nick. You beat me to it my
> friend. It can be a damn nuscience.
> Geoff F
>
> On Wed, 5 Sep 2018 at 14:34, Nick Ware via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
>> Actually, an interesting irrelevancy maybe, but I?ve got to know the
>> local Council pest controller quite well in the last couple of years. He
>> used to work full-time for the Borough Council until he was made redundant
>> and pest control was outsourced to an outside company. That company? Him!
>> Now he says he earns far more than he did as a Council employee. If I call
>> the Council for pest control assistance, the service is free, but as a
>> local tax payer paying ?306.00 per month (x10 PA) I have to wonder how
>> free?! And then there?s the bin men, the recycling centre, etc., etc. All
>> outsourced.
>>
>> Nick.
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On 5 Sep 2018, at 15:14, Peter Fox <peter.fox at tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>> I concur with Nick, although our neighbour wasn't in denial about Roland
>> and family. He also paid out twice by replacing the decking next to the
>> house with slates. In fact he paid out three times because he had a new
>> decking of grey painted wood put at the top of the garden instead, and
>> within months (it seemed,) it started curling up and warping here and
>> there. I know nothing about composite decking but if it doesn't warp then
>> go for it! At least the rats all left
>>
>> Peter F
>>
>> On 05/09/2018 13:31, Nick Ware via Tech1 wrote:
>>
>> A neighbour of mine spent a lot of money having fairly extensive decking
>> put down about eight years ago in his back garden, and very nice it was.
>> Now, in the last couple of months he?s had it all taken up and replaced
>> with posh paving slabs because the decking was a perfect haven for rats.
>> Unfortunately we have an ongoing problem with some scruffy inconsiderate
>> other neighbours nearby who leave out food waste and packaging that
>> attracts rats. They of course deny that they are the cause of the problem.
>> We never had rats before they came along, and it?s not (dare I say?) the
>> sort of area you?d expect rats.
>> My advice would be, know your neighbours? habits before considering
>> decking.
>> I hope that doesn?t sound pessimistic or negative, but it is worth being
>> aware.
>> Best regards,
>> Nick.
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On 5 Sep 2018, at 11:32, Tony Grant via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Good morning,
>>
>> I'm contemplating having some decking in part of the garden, and if so,
>> would probably go for composite, since I'm not going to be willing (or
>> able!) to keep maintaining it over the coming years. Have you got any
>> ideas, suggestions, caveats with what to look out for, etc.?
>>
>> TeaTeaFN - Tony
>>
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From bernie833 at gmail.com  Thu Sep  6 03:39:13 2018
From: bernie833 at gmail.com (Bernard Newnham)
Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2018 09:39:13 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Any ideas for composite decking?
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We have an intermittent rat problem. Every couple of years I have to go 
into extermination mode. We now have three of those box things that you 
see at supermarkets by the walls.? I don't like poisoning, so at one 
point I bought an air gun, the most powerful you could legally have.? I 
did manage to shoot three rats, but the endless waiting got tedious.? We 
live slightly in the country(ish) - neither weor the neighbours are into 
fast food dumping we don't put bread out for the birds as we used to. 
And still they come....

B



On 05/09/2018 21:22, Tony Grant via Tech1 wrote:
> Ah, I knew I could find useful advice here. OK, I forgot to mention 
> that this will be decking raised above ground level, to enjoy the view 
> across the sea. And we've already had rat problems, since we live in 
> the country, and there's every kind of animal/bird/insect, etc you 
> could wish to see. The local council's pest control is good, but we 
> have to pay a fee of ?48. The best deterrent is a cat, but we don't 
> want to have any animals of our own.
>
> Anyway, raised decking, so hopefully no extra rat insurgents. I hadn't 
> thought of heat/expansion problems, and so will need to consider this 
> and make enquiries of suppliers if we decide to go ahead with the 
> idea. Whilst mentioning all creatures great and small in passing, we 
> also have newts in our pond, so mustn't muddy too many waters.
>
> TeaTeaFN - Tony
>
> On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 3:23 PM chris.booth--- via Tech1 
> <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk <mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>> wrote:
>
>     I had a large deck installed in 2011 ? the material was a
>     composite, trade name Twinsen.
>     The only problem was that the planks ?stretched? in the heat and
>     threatened to buckle ? by this time the installer had gone broke,
>     but I managed to find one of his original team to trim and refit
>     the planks.
>     Still going fine despite that.....and no rats either even though
>     next door neighbour has chicken!
>     ----------
>     Chris B
>     *From:* Geoff Fletcher via Tech1
>     *Sent:* Wednesday, September 5, 2018 3:04 PM
>     *To:* Nick Ware
>     *Cc:* tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
>     *Subject:* Re: [Tech1] Any ideas for composite decking?
>     I was just going to point out the rat problem Nick. You beat me to
>     it my friend. It can be a damn nuscience.
>     Geoff F
>     On Wed, 5 Sep 2018 at 14:34, Nick Ware via Tech1
>     <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
>
>         Actually, an interesting irrelevancy maybe, but I?ve got to
>         know the local Council pest controller quite well in the last
>         couple of years. He used to work full-time for the Borough
>         Council until he was made redundant and pest control was
>         outsourced to an outside company. That company? Him! Now he
>         says he earns far more than he did as a Council employee. If I
>         call the Council for pest control assistance, the service is
>         free, but as a local tax payer paying ?306.00 per month (x10
>         PA) I have to wonder how free?! And then there?s the bin men,
>         the recycling centre, etc., etc. All outsourced.
>
>         Nick.
>         Sent from my iPad
>
>         On 5 Sep 2018, at 15:14, Peter Fox <peter.fox at tiscali.co.uk>
>         wrote:
>
>>         I concur with Nick, although our neighbour wasn't in denial
>>         about Roland and family. He also paid out twice by replacing
>>         the decking next to the house with slates. In fact he paid
>>         out three times because he had a new decking of grey painted
>>         wood put at the top of the garden instead, and within months
>>         (it seemed,) it started curling up and warping here and
>>         there. I know nothing about composite decking but if it
>>         doesn't warp then go for it! At least the rats all left
>>         Peter F
>>         On 05/09/2018 13:31, Nick Ware via Tech1 wrote:
>>>         A neighbour of mine spent a lot of money having fairly
>>>         extensive decking put down about eight years ago in his back
>>>         garden, and very nice it was. Now, in the last couple of
>>>         months he?s had it all taken up and replaced with posh
>>>         paving slabs because the decking was a perfect haven for
>>>         rats. Unfortunately we have an ongoing problem with some
>>>         scruffy inconsiderate other neighbours nearby who leave out
>>>         food waste and packaging that attracts rats. They of course
>>>         deny that they are the cause of the problem. We never had
>>>         rats before they came along, and it?s not (dare I say?) the
>>>         sort of area you?d expect rats.
>>>         My advice would be, know your neighbours? habits before
>>>         considering decking.
>>>         I hope that doesn?t sound pessimistic or negative, but it is
>>>         worth being aware.
>>>         Best regards,
>>>         Nick.
>>>         Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>>         On 5 Sep 2018, at 11:32, Tony Grant via Tech1
>>>         <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>>         Good morning,
>>>>         I'm contemplating having some decking in part of the
>>>>         garden, and if so, would probably go for composite, since
>>>>         I'm not going to be willing (or able!) to keep maintaining
>>>>         it over the coming years. Have you got any ideas,
>>>>         suggestions, caveats with what to look out for, etc.?
>>>>         TeaTeaFN - Tony
>>>>         -- 
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From bernie833 at gmail.com  Thu Sep  6 03:49:31 2018
From: bernie833 at gmail.com (Bernard Newnham)
Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2018 09:49:31 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Google maps
Message-ID: <1d4d78a5-ebc7-a119-af22-e7586991b536@gmail.com>

Does anyone know why some parts of the country (world) are in 3D and 
others aren't - like my house?

B

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From teateatone2 at gmail.com  Thu Sep  6 04:03:33 2018
From: teateatone2 at gmail.com (Tony Grant)
Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2018 10:03:33 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Any ideas for composite decking?
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Ahh, the birds, the birds. We had to stop feeding them a couple of months
ago for that very reason, and now have the black boxes installed by our
local pest controller. I really miss the birds, they were an endless source
of amusement, but with our three year old granddaughter playing in the
garden, we certainly didn't want her to confront any rats.

TeaTeaFN - Tony

On Thu, Sep 6, 2018 at 9:39 AM Bernard Newnham via Tech1 <
tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:

> We have an intermittent rat problem. Every couple of years I have to go
> into extermination mode. We now have three of those box things that you
> see at supermarkets by the walls.  I don't like poisoning, so at one
> point I bought an air gun, the most powerful you could legally have.  I did
> manage to shoot three rats, but the endless waiting got tedious.  We live
> slightly in the country(ish) - neither we or the neighbours are into fast
> food dumping we don't put bread out for the birds as we used to. And
> still they come....
>
> B
>
>
>
> On 05/09/2018 21:22, Tony Grant via Tech1 wrote:
>
> Ah, I knew I could find useful advice here. OK, I forgot to mention that
> this will be decking raised above ground level, to enjoy the view across
> the sea. And we've already had rat problems, since we live in the country,
> and there's every kind of animal/bird/insect, etc you could wish to see.
> The local council's pest control is good, but we have to pay a fee of ?48.
> The best deterrent is a cat, but we don't want to have any animals of our
> own.
>
> Anyway, raised decking, so hopefully no extra rat insurgents. I hadn't
> thought of heat/expansion problems, and so will need to consider this and
> make enquiries of suppliers if we decide to go ahead with the idea. Whilst
> mentioning all creatures great and small in passing, we also have newts in
> our pond, so mustn't muddy too many waters.
>
> TeaTeaFN - Tony
>
> On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 3:23 PM chris.booth--- via Tech1 <
> tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> I had a large deck installed in 2011 ? the material was a composite,
>> trade name Twinsen.
>> The only problem was that the planks ?stretched? in the heat and
>> threatened to buckle ? by this time the installer had gone broke, but I
>> managed to find one of his original team to trim and refit the planks.
>> Still going fine despite that.....and no rats either even though next
>> door neighbour has chicken!
>> ----------
>> Chris B
>>
>> *From:* Geoff Fletcher via Tech1
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 5, 2018 3:04 PM
>> *To:* Nick Ware
>> *Cc:* tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
>> *Subject:* Re: [Tech1] Any ideas for composite decking?
>>
>> I was just going to point out the rat problem Nick. You beat me to it my
>> friend. It can be a damn nuscience.
>> Geoff F
>>
>> On Wed, 5 Sep 2018 at 14:34, Nick Ware via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Actually, an interesting irrelevancy maybe, but I?ve got to know the
>>> local Council pest controller quite well in the last couple of years. He
>>> used to work full-time for the Borough Council until he was made redundant
>>> and pest control was outsourced to an outside company. That company? Him!
>>> Now he says he earns far more than he did as a Council employee. If I call
>>> the Council for pest control assistance, the service is free, but as a
>>> local tax payer paying ?306.00 per month (x10 PA) I have to wonder how
>>> free?! And then there?s the bin men, the recycling centre, etc., etc. All
>>> outsourced.
>>>
>>> Nick.
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>> On 5 Sep 2018, at 15:14, Peter Fox <peter.fox at tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>> I concur with Nick, although our neighbour wasn't in denial about Roland
>>> and family. He also paid out twice by replacing the decking next to the
>>> house with slates. In fact he paid out three times because he had a new
>>> decking of grey painted wood put at the top of the garden instead, and
>>> within months (it seemed,) it started curling up and warping here and
>>> there. I know nothing about composite decking but if it doesn't warp then
>>> go for it! At least the rats all left
>>>
>>> Peter F
>>>
>>> On 05/09/2018 13:31, Nick Ware via Tech1 wrote:
>>>
>>> A neighbour of mine spent a lot of money having fairly extensive decking
>>> put down about eight years ago in his back garden, and very nice it was.
>>> Now, in the last couple of months he?s had it all taken up and replaced
>>> with posh paving slabs because the decking was a perfect haven for rats.
>>> Unfortunately we have an ongoing problem with some scruffy inconsiderate
>>> other neighbours nearby who leave out food waste and packaging that
>>> attracts rats. They of course deny that they are the cause of the problem.
>>> We never had rats before they came along, and it?s not (dare I say?) the
>>> sort of area you?d expect rats.
>>> My advice would be, know your neighbours? habits before considering
>>> decking.
>>> I hope that doesn?t sound pessimistic or negative, but it is worth being
>>> aware.
>>> Best regards,
>>> Nick.
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>> On 5 Sep 2018, at 11:32, Tony Grant via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Good morning,
>>>
>>> I'm contemplating having some decking in part of the garden, and if so,
>>> would probably go for composite, since I'm not going to be willing (or
>>> able!) to keep maintaining it over the coming years. Have you got any
>>> ideas, suggestions, caveats with what to look out for, etc.?
>>>
>>> TeaTeaFN - Tony
>>>
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From waresound at msn.com  Thu Sep  6 04:40:17 2018
From: waresound at msn.com (Nick Ware)
Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2018 09:40:17 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Any ideas for composite decking?
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It?s worth reading the Wikipedia ?Rodenticides? pages before attempting DIY rat poisoning. Some products are in any case, illegal, and most are fatal to cats, dogs and other animals that prey on dead animal carcases.

Best,
Nick.

Sent from my iPad

On 6 Sep 2018, at 10:39, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk<mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>> wrote:

We have an intermittent rat problem. Every couple of years I have to go into extermination mode. We now have three of those box things that you see at supermarkets by the walls.  I don't like poisoning, so at one point I bought an air gun, the most powerful you could legally have.  I did manage to shoot three rats, but the endless waiting got tedious.  We live slightly in the country(ish) - neither we or the neighbours are into fast food dumping we don't put bread out for the birds as we used to. And still they come....

B



On 05/09/2018 21:22, Tony Grant via Tech1 wrote:
Ah, I knew I could find useful advice here. OK, I forgot to mention that this will be decking raised above ground level, to enjoy the view across the sea. And we've already had rat problems, since we live in the country, and there's every kind of animal/bird/insect, etc you could wish to see. The local council's pest control is good, but we have to pay a fee of ?48. The best deterrent is a cat, but we don't want to have any animals of our own.

Anyway, raised decking, so hopefully no extra rat insurgents. I hadn't thought of heat/expansion problems, and so will need to consider this and make enquiries of suppliers if we decide to go ahead with the idea. Whilst mentioning all creatures great and small in passing, we also have newts in our pond, so mustn't muddy too many waters.

TeaTeaFN - Tony

On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 3:23 PM chris.booth--- via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk<mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>> wrote:
I had a large deck installed in 2011 ? the material was a composite, trade name Twinsen.
The only problem was that the planks ?stretched? in the heat and threatened to buckle ? by this time the installer had gone broke, but I managed to find one of his original team to trim and refit the planks.
Still going fine despite that.....and no rats either even though next door neighbour has chicken!
----------
Chris B

From: Geoff Fletcher via Tech1
Sent: Wednesday, September 5, 2018 3:04 PM
To: Nick Ware
Cc: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
Subject: Re: [Tech1] Any ideas for composite decking?

I was just going to point out the rat problem Nick. You beat me to it my friend. It can be a damn nuscience.
Geoff F

On Wed, 5 Sep 2018 at 14:34, Nick Ware via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
Actually, an interesting irrelevancy maybe, but I?ve got to know the local Council pest controller quite well in the last couple of years. He used to work full-time for the Borough Council until he was made redundant and pest control was outsourced to an outside company. That company? Him! Now he says he earns far more than he did as a Council employee. If I call the Council for pest control assistance, the service is free, but as a local tax payer paying ?306.00 per month (x10 PA) I have to wonder how free?! And then there?s the bin men, the recycling centre, etc., etc. All outsourced.

Nick.
Sent from my iPad

On 5 Sep 2018, at 15:14, Peter Fox <peter.fox at tiscali.co.uk> wrote:

I concur with Nick, although our neighbour wasn't in denial about Roland and family. He also paid out twice by replacing the decking next to the house with slates. In fact he paid out three times because he had a new decking of grey painted wood put at the top of the garden instead, and within months (it seemed,) it started curling up and warping here and there. I know nothing about composite decking but if it doesn't warp then go for it! At least the rats all left

Peter F

On 05/09/2018 13:31, Nick Ware via Tech1 wrote:
A neighbour of mine spent a lot of money having fairly extensive decking put down about eight years ago in his back garden, and very nice it was. Now, in the last couple of months he?s had it all taken up and replaced with posh paving slabs because the decking was a perfect haven for rats. Unfortunately we have an ongoing problem with some scruffy inconsiderate other neighbours nearby who leave out food waste and packaging that attracts rats. They of course deny that they are the cause of the problem. We never had rats before they came along, and it?s not (dare I say?) the sort of area you?d expect rats.
My advice would be, know your neighbours? habits before considering decking.
I hope that doesn?t sound pessimistic or negative, but it is worth being aware.
Best regards,
Nick.
Sent from my iPad

On 5 Sep 2018, at 11:32, Tony Grant via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:

Good morning,

I'm contemplating having some decking in part of the garden, and if so, would probably go for composite, since I'm not going to be willing (or able!) to keep maintaining it over the coming years. Have you got any ideas, suggestions, caveats with what to look out for, etc.?

TeaTeaFN - Tony
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From graeme.wall at icloud.com  Thu Sep  6 04:45:35 2018
From: graeme.wall at icloud.com (Graeme Wall)
Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2018 10:45:35 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Google maps
In-Reply-To: <1d4d78a5-ebc7-a119-af22-e7586991b536@gmail.com>
References: <1d4d78a5-ebc7-a119-af22-e7586991b536@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <0EDBDBE5-98F2-4E0C-9E34-A08390773B35@icloud.com>

They haven?t got round to processing it yet.
? 
Graeme Wall





> On 6 Sep 2018, at 09:49, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> Does anyone know why some parts of the country (world) are in 3D and others aren't - like my house?
> 
> B
> 
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From graeme.wall at icloud.com  Thu Sep  6 04:49:07 2018
From: graeme.wall at icloud.com (Graeme Wall)
Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2018 10:49:07 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Any ideas for composite decking?
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Hmmm, almost tempting, my neighbour has 3 dogs and two cats and which use their backgarden as a toilet.  The smell in hot weather is most unpleasant.  The worrying thing is they have several grandchildren who spend a lot of time playing in the same garden.
? 
Graeme Wall





> On 6 Sep 2018, at 10:40, Nick Ware via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> It?s worth reading the Wikipedia ?Rodenticides? pages before attempting DIY rat poisoning. Some products are in any case, illegal, and most are fatal to cats, dogs and other animals that prey on dead animal carcases.
> 
> Best,
> Nick. 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> On 6 Sep 2018, at 10:39, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
>> We have an intermittent rat problem. Every couple of years I have to go into extermination mode. We now have three of those box things that you see at supermarkets by the walls.  I don't like poisoning, so at one point I bought an air gun, the most powerful you could legally have.  I did manage to shoot three rats, but the endless waiting got tedious.  We live slightly in the country(ish) - neither we or the neighbours are into fast food dumping we don't put bread out for the birds as we used to. And still they come....
>> 
>> B
>> 
>>   
>> 
>> On 05/09/2018 21:22, Tony Grant via Tech1 wrote:
>>> Ah, I knew I could find useful advice here. OK, I forgot to mention that this will be decking raised above ground level, to enjoy the view across the sea. And we've already had rat problems, since we live in the country, and there's every kind of animal/bird/insect, etc you could wish to see. The local council's pest control is good, but we have to pay a fee of ?48. The best deterrent is a cat, but we don't want to have any animals of our own.
>>> 
>>> Anyway, raised decking, so hopefully no extra rat insurgents. I hadn't thought of heat/expansion problems, and so will need to consider this and make enquiries of suppliers if we decide to go ahead with the idea. Whilst mentioning all creatures great and small in passing, we also have newts in our pond, so mustn't muddy too many waters.
>>> 
>>> TeaTeaFN - Tony
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 3:23 PM chris.booth--- via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
>>> I had a large deck installed in 2011 ? the material was a composite, trade name Twinsen.
>>> The only problem was that the planks ?stretched? in the heat and threatened to buckle ? by this time the installer had gone broke, but I managed to find one of his original team to trim and refit the planks.
>>> Still going fine despite that.....and no rats either even though next door neighbour has chicken!
>>> ----------
>>> Chris B
>>>  
>>> From: Geoff Fletcher via Tech1
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 5, 2018 3:04 PM
>>> To: Nick Ware
>>> Cc: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
>>> Subject: Re: [Tech1] Any ideas for composite decking?
>>>  
>>> I was just going to point out the rat problem Nick. You beat me to it my friend. It can be a damn nuscience.
>>> Geoff F
>>>  
>>> On Wed, 5 Sep 2018 at 14:34, Nick Ware via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
>>> Actually, an interesting irrelevancy maybe, but I?ve got to know the local Council pest controller quite well in the last couple of years. He used to work full-time for the Borough Council until he was made redundant and pest control was outsourced to an outside company. That company? Him! Now he says he earns far more than he did as a Council employee. If I call the Council for pest control assistance, the service is free, but as a local tax payer paying ?306.00 per month (x10 PA) I have to wonder how free?! And then there?s the bin men, the recycling centre, etc., etc. All outsourced.
>>> 
>>> Nick.
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
>>> On 5 Sep 2018, at 15:14, Peter Fox <peter.fox at tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I concur with Nick, although our neighbour wasn't in denial about Roland and family. He also paid out twice by replacing the decking next to the house with slates. In fact he paid out three times because he had a new decking of grey painted wood put at the top of the garden instead, and within months (it seemed,) it started curling up and warping here and there. I know nothing about composite decking but if it doesn't warp then go for it! At least the rats all left
>>>>  
>>>> Peter F
>>>>  
>>>> On 05/09/2018 13:31, Nick Ware via Tech1 wrote:
>>>>> A neighbour of mine spent a lot of money having fairly extensive decking put down about eight years ago in his back garden, and very nice it was. Now, in the last couple of months he?s had it all taken up and replaced with posh paving slabs because the decking was a perfect haven for rats. Unfortunately we have an ongoing problem with some scruffy inconsiderate other neighbours nearby who leave out food waste and packaging that attracts rats. They of course deny that they are the cause of the problem. We never had rats before they came along, and it?s not (dare I say?) the sort of area you?d expect rats.
>>>>> My advice would be, know your neighbours? habits before considering decking.
>>>>> I hope that doesn?t sound pessimistic or negative, but it is worth being aware. 
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>> Nick.
>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 5 Sep 2018, at 11:32, Tony Grant via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Good morning,
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> I'm contemplating having some decking in part of the garden, and if so, would probably go for composite, since I'm not going to be willing (or able!) to keep maintaining it over the coming years. Have you got any ideas, suggestions, caveats with what to look out for, etc.?
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> TeaTeaFN - Tony
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From ian.hillson at gmail.com  Thu Sep  6 05:58:48 2018
From: ian.hillson at gmail.com (Ian H)
Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2018 11:58:48 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Google maps
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This thread is a good starting point:
https://steamcommunity.com/app/348250/discussions/0/215439774860056824/
(although a couple of years old)

I

On Thu, Sep 6, 2018 at 9:50 AM Bernard Newnham via Tech1 <
tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:

> Does anyone know why some parts of the country (world) are in 3D and
> others aren't - like my house?
>
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From teateatone2 at gmail.com  Thu Sep  6 07:23:45 2018
From: teateatone2 at gmail.com (Tony Grant)
Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2018 13:23:45 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Any ideas for composite decking?
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Hang on a minute, I just bought a duck in Morrisons and brought it home in
the car, should I eat it if that makes it a dead animal car case?
Argggh.....quick nurse, the screens.......too late, it's curtains.......

TeaTeaFN - Tony

On Thu, Sep 6, 2018 at 10:40 AM Nick Ware via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
wrote:

> It?s worth reading the Wikipedia ?Rodenticides? pages before attempting
> DIY rat poisoning. Some products are in any case, illegal, and most are
> fatal to cats, dogs and other animals that prey on dead animal carcases.
>
> Best,
> Nick.
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On 6 Sep 2018, at 10:39, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
> We have an intermittent rat problem. Every couple of years I have to go
> into extermination mode. We now have three of those box things that you
> see at supermarkets by the walls.  I don't like poisoning, so at one
> point I bought an air gun, the most powerful you could legally have.  I did
> manage to shoot three rats, but the endless waiting got tedious.  We live
> slightly in the country(ish) - neither we or the neighbours are into fast
> food dumping we don't put bread out for the birds as we used to. And
> still they come....
>
> B
>
>
>
> On 05/09/2018 21:22, Tony Grant via Tech1 wrote:
>
> Ah, I knew I could find useful advice here. OK, I forgot to mention that
> this will be decking raised above ground level, to enjoy the view across
> the sea. And we've already had rat problems, since we live in the country,
> and there's every kind of animal/bird/insect, etc you could wish to see.
> The local council's pest control is good, but we have to pay a fee of ?48.
> The best deterrent is a cat, but we don't want to have any animals of our
> own.
>
> Anyway, raised decking, so hopefully no extra rat insurgents. I hadn't
> thought of heat/expansion problems, and so will need to consider this and
> make enquiries of suppliers if we decide to go ahead with the idea. Whilst
> mentioning all creatures great and small in passing, we also have newts in
> our pond, so mustn't muddy too many waters.
>
> TeaTeaFN - Tony
>
> On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 3:23 PM chris.booth--- via Tech1 <
> tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> I had a large deck installed in 2011 ? the material was a composite,
>> trade name Twinsen.
>> The only problem was that the planks ?stretched? in the heat and
>> threatened to buckle ? by this time the installer had gone broke, but I
>> managed to find one of his original team to trim and refit the planks.
>> Still going fine despite that.....and no rats either even though next
>> door neighbour has chicken!
>> ----------
>> Chris B
>>
>> *From:* Geoff Fletcher via Tech1
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 5, 2018 3:04 PM
>> *To:* Nick Ware
>> *Cc:* tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
>> *Subject:* Re: [Tech1] Any ideas for composite decking?
>>
>> I was just going to point out the rat problem Nick. You beat me to it my
>> friend. It can be a damn nuscience.
>> Geoff F
>>
>> On Wed, 5 Sep 2018 at 14:34, Nick Ware via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Actually, an interesting irrelevancy maybe, but I?ve got to know the
>>> local Council pest controller quite well in the last couple of years. He
>>> used to work full-time for the Borough Council until he was made redundant
>>> and pest control was outsourced to an outside company. That company? Him!
>>> Now he says he earns far more than he did as a Council employee. If I call
>>> the Council for pest control assistance, the service is free, but as a
>>> local tax payer paying ?306.00 per month (x10 PA) I have to wonder how
>>> free?! And then there?s the bin men, the recycling centre, etc., etc. All
>>> outsourced.
>>>
>>> Nick.
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>> On 5 Sep 2018, at 15:14, Peter Fox <peter.fox at tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>> I concur with Nick, although our neighbour wasn't in denial about Roland
>>> and family. He also paid out twice by replacing the decking next to the
>>> house with slates. In fact he paid out three times because he had a new
>>> decking of grey painted wood put at the top of the garden instead, and
>>> within months (it seemed,) it started curling up and warping here and
>>> there. I know nothing about composite decking but if it doesn't warp then
>>> go for it! At least the rats all left
>>>
>>> Peter F
>>>
>>> On 05/09/2018 13:31, Nick Ware via Tech1 wrote:
>>>
>>> A neighbour of mine spent a lot of money having fairly extensive decking
>>> put down about eight years ago in his back garden, and very nice it was.
>>> Now, in the last couple of months he?s had it all taken up and replaced
>>> with posh paving slabs because the decking was a perfect haven for rats.
>>> Unfortunately we have an ongoing problem with some scruffy inconsiderate
>>> other neighbours nearby who leave out food waste and packaging that
>>> attracts rats. They of course deny that they are the cause of the problem.
>>> We never had rats before they came along, and it?s not (dare I say?) the
>>> sort of area you?d expect rats.
>>> My advice would be, know your neighbours? habits before considering
>>> decking.
>>> I hope that doesn?t sound pessimistic or negative, but it is worth being
>>> aware.
>>> Best regards,
>>> Nick.
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>> On 5 Sep 2018, at 11:32, Tony Grant via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Good morning,
>>>
>>> I'm contemplating having some decking in part of the garden, and if so,
>>> would probably go for composite, since I'm not going to be willing (or
>>> able!) to keep maintaining it over the coming years. Have you got any
>>> ideas, suggestions, caveats with what to look out for, etc.?
>>>
>>> TeaTeaFN - Tony
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From vernon.dyer at btinternet.com  Thu Sep  6 07:45:14 2018
From: vernon.dyer at btinternet.com (vernon.dyer)
Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2018 13:45:14 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Any ideas for composite decking?
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Has someone put something in your tea, Tony??


Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.-------- Original message --------From: Tony Grant via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> Date: 06/09/2018  13:23  (GMT+00:00) To:  Cc: TechOps Forum <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> Subject: Re: [Tech1] Any ideas for composite decking? 
Hang on a minute, I just bought a duck in Morrisons and brought it home in the car, should I eat it if that makes it a dead animal car case? Argggh.....quick nurse, the screens.......too late, it's curtains.......
TeaTeaFN - Tony
On Thu, Sep 6, 2018 at 10:40 AM Nick Ware via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:





It?s worth reading the Wikipedia ?Rodenticides? pages before attempting DIY rat poisoning. Some products are in any case, illegal, and most are fatal to cats, dogs and other animals that prey on dead animal carcases.


Best,
Nick.?



Sent from my iPad


On 6 Sep 2018, at 10:39, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:





We have 
an intermittent rat problem. Every couple of years I have to go into extermination mode. We now have three of those box things that you see at supermarkets by the walls.? I don't like poisoning, so at
 one point I bought an air gun, the most powerful you could legally have.? I did manage to shoot three rats, but the endless waiting got tedious.? We live slightly in the country(ish)
 - neither
 we or the neighbours are into fast food dumping
we don't
put bread out for the birds as we used to. And still they come....



B



? 



On 05/09/2018 21:22, Tony Grant via Tech1 wrote:



Ah, I knew I could find useful advice here. OK, I forgot to mention that this will be decking raised above ground level, to enjoy the view across the sea. And we've already had rat problems, since we live in the country, and there's every kind
 of animal/bird/insect, etc you could wish to see. The local council's pest control is good, but we have to pay a fee of ?48. The best deterrent is a cat, but we don't want to have any animals of our own.



Anyway, raised decking, so hopefully no extra rat insurgents. I hadn't thought of heat/expansion problems, and so will need to consider this and make enquiries of suppliers if we decide to go ahead with the idea. Whilst mentioning all creatures great and
 small in passing, we also have newts in our pond, so mustn't muddy too many waters.



TeaTeaFN - Tony




On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 3:23 PM chris.booth--- via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:






I had a large deck installed in 2011 ? the material was a composite, trade name Twinsen.
The only problem was that the planks ?stretched? in the heat and threatened to buckle ? by this time the installer had gone broke, but I managed to find one of his original team to trim and refit the planks.
Still going fine despite that.....and no rats either even though next door neighbour has chicken!
----------

Chris B


?

From: Geoff Fletcher via Tech1

Sent: Wednesday, September 5, 2018 3:04 PM
To: Nick Ware

Cc: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk

Subject: Re: [Tech1] Any ideas for composite decking?


?



I was just going to point out the rat problem Nick. You beat me to it my friend. It can be a damn nuscience.

Geoff F

?

On Wed, 5 Sep 2018 at 14:34, Nick Ware via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:



Actually, an interesting irrelevancy maybe, but I?ve got to know the local Council pest controller quite well in the last couple of years. He used to work full-time for the Borough Council until he was made redundant and pest control was outsourced to
 an outside company. That company? Him! Now he says he earns far more than he did as a Council employee. If I call the Council for pest control assistance, the service is free, but as a local tax payer paying ?306.00 per month (x10 PA) I have to wonder how
 free?! And then there?s the bin men, the recycling centre, etc., etc. All outsourced.


Nick.

Sent from my iPad


On 5 Sep 2018, at 15:14, Peter Fox <peter.fox at tiscali.co.uk> wrote:






I concur with Nick, although our neighbour wasn't in denial about Roland and family. He also paid out twice by replacing the decking next to the house with slates. In fact he paid out three
 times because he had a new decking of grey painted wood put at the top of the garden instead, and within months (it seemed,) it started curling up and warping here and there. I know nothing about composite decking but if it doesn't warp then go for it! At
 least the rats all left
?
Peter F


?
On 05/09/2018 13:31, Nick Ware via Tech1 wrote:


A neighbour of mine spent a lot of money having fairly extensive decking put down about eight years ago in his back garden, and very nice it was. Now, in the last couple of months he?s had it all taken up and replaced with posh paving
 slabs because the decking was a perfect haven for rats. Unfortunately we have an ongoing problem with some scruffy inconsiderate other neighbours nearby who leave out food waste and packaging that attracts rats. They of course deny that they are the cause
 of the problem. We never had rats before they came along, and it?s not (dare I say?) the sort of area you?d expect rats.
My advice would be, know your neighbours? habits before considering decking.
I hope that doesn?t sound pessimistic or negative, but it is worth being aware.


Best regards,
Nick.

Sent from my iPad


On 5 Sep 2018, at 11:32, Tony Grant via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:






Good morning,
?
I'm contemplating having some decking in part of the garden, and if so, would probably go for composite, since I'm not going to be willing (or able!) to keep maintaining it over the coming years. Have you got any ideas, suggestions, caveats with what to
 look out for, etc.?
?
TeaTeaFN - Tony




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From alec.bray.2 at gmail.com  Thu Sep  6 12:00:50 2018
From: alec.bray.2 at gmail.com (Alec Bray)
Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2018 18:00:50 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] A request to the people of Sound
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Hi,

What were the old heavy cumbersome record decks in the TC studios Sound 
Galleries in the mid 1960s?? I think they had moving coil pickups (they 
were heavy) and had straight arms: mainly ran at 78 rpm IIRC..

Even better, if you have a picture of one, that would be magic (it's for 
a U3A talk/presentation).

I have had a troll round the internet and the Tech Ops archives, without 
success as yet.

Thanks in advance!

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From doug.prior at talktalk.net  Thu Sep  6 13:50:08 2018
From: doug.prior at talktalk.net (doug.prior at talktalk.net)
Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2018 19:50:08 +0100 (BST)
Subject: [Tech1] A request to the people of Sound
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References: <8652e8b9-1941-b062-25ae-078465d32963@gmail.com>
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Hi Alec 
It was a BBC TD7
In my earlier radio studio testing duties we were told the method of setting the tone arm was to place the needle on you finger - increase the weight till it drew blood and take it back a notch. Happy days
Doug Prior



----Original Message----
From: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
Date: 06/09/2018 17:00
To: "TechOps Forum"<tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
Subj: [Tech1] A request to the people of Sound

Hi,

What were the old heavy cumbersome record decks in the TC studios Sound 
Galleries in the mid 1960s?  I think they had moving coil pickups (they 
were heavy) and had straight arms: mainly ran at 78 rpm IIRC..

Even better, if you have a picture of one, that would be magic (it's for 
a U3A talk/presentation).

I have had a troll round the internet and the Tech Ops archives, without 
success as yet.

Thanks in advance!

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Alec

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From j at howell61.f9.co.uk  Thu Sep  6 15:20:05 2018
From: j at howell61.f9.co.uk (John Howell)
Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2018 21:20:05 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] A request to the people of Sound
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Here's a TD7, it tracked at 2.5oz. If you're talking of the 1960s I 
don't believe there were ever any at TV Centre.

'Grams' at TVC were twin units called RP2s and were Garrard 301 
tuntables with fast start facilities. They had Tannoy variable 
reluctance cartridges which 'turned over' to give a choice of fine or 
coarse groove stylii.

The last TD7s in West London Television were at Lime Grove Studios D,E, 
G, and R and were replced just as I started on Grams (just as well really).

John Howell.



On 06/09/2018 19:50, doug.prior--- via Tech1 wrote:
> Hi Alec
>
> It was a BBC TD7
>
> In my earlier radio studio testing duties we were told the method of 
> setting the tone arm was to place the needle on you finger - increase 
> the weight till it drew blood and take it back a notch. Happy days
>
> Doug Prior
>
> ----Original Message----
> From: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
> Date: 06/09/2018 17:00
> To: "TechOps Forum"<tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
> Subj: [Tech1] A request to the people of Sound
>
> Hi,
>
> What were the old heavy cumbersome record decks in the TC studios Sound
> Galleries in the mid 1960s?? I think they had moving coil pickups (they
> were heavy) and had straight arms: mainly ran at 78 rpm IIRC..
>
> Even better, if you have a picture of one, that would be magic (it's for
> a U3A talk/presentation).
>
> I have had a troll round the internet and the Tech Ops archives, without
> success as yet.
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> -- 
>
> Best Regards
>
> Alec
>
> Alec Bray
>
> alec.bray.2 at gmail.com
> mob:??? 07789 561 346
> home:?? 0118 981 7502
>
>
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From teateatone2 at gmail.com  Thu Sep  6 15:21:49 2018
From: teateatone2 at gmail.com (Tony Grant)
Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2018 21:21:49 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Any ideas for composite decking?
In-Reply-To: <18cvd902krvcgey5lrw082x9.1536237914042@email.android.com>
References: <18cvd902krvcgey5lrw082x9.1536237914042@email.android.com>
Message-ID: <CAEMv0RNc1xLP+1zCDccVNQa2x6qbLSG0f34AOV9g-=cNYgMGsA@mail.gmail.com>

Could be the Red Tea Bar bromide is eventually having an effect, hmmm, must
stop quacking these obvious jokes, OK, if you duck, they go over your head,
but this the web we're on (cue spider jokes as a spin off, will this one
fly too? Perhaps up to the beak to decide). Hallo nurse, swallow what
pills?.........zzzzzz

TeaTeaFN - Tony

On Thu, Sep 6, 2018 at 1:45 PM vernon.dyer via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
wrote:

> Has someone put something in your tea, Tony?
>
>
>
> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Tony Grant via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
> Date: 06/09/2018 13:23 (GMT+00:00)
> To:
> Cc: TechOps Forum <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
> Subject: Re: [Tech1] Any ideas for composite decking?
>
> Hang on a minute, I just bought a duck in Morrisons and brought it home in
> the car, should I eat it if that makes it a dead animal car case?
> Argggh.....quick nurse, the screens.......too late, it's curtains.......
>
> TeaTeaFN - Tony
>
> On Thu, Sep 6, 2018 at 10:40 AM Nick Ware via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
>> It?s worth reading the Wikipedia ?Rodenticides? pages before attempting
>> DIY rat poisoning. Some products are in any case, illegal, and most are
>> fatal to cats, dogs and other animals that prey on dead animal carcases.
>>
>> Best,
>> Nick.
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On 6 Sep 2018, at 10:39, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
>> wrote:
>>
>> We have an intermittent rat problem. Every couple of years I have to go
>> into extermination mode. We now have three of those box things that you
>> see at supermarkets by the walls.  I don't like poisoning, so at one
>> point I bought an air gun, the most powerful you could legally have.  I did
>> manage to shoot three rats, but the endless waiting got tedious.  We
>> live slightly in the country(ish) - neither we or the neighbours are
>> into fast food dumping we don't put bread out for the birds as we used
>> to. And still they come....
>>
>> B
>>
>>
>>
>> On 05/09/2018 21:22, Tony Grant via Tech1 wrote:
>>
>> Ah, I knew I could find useful advice here. OK, I forgot to mention that
>> this will be decking raised above ground level, to enjoy the view across
>> the sea. And we've already had rat problems, since we live in the country,
>> and there's every kind of animal/bird/insect, etc you could wish to see.
>> The local council's pest control is good, but we have to pay a fee of ?48.
>> The best deterrent is a cat, but we don't want to have any animals of our
>> own.
>>
>> Anyway, raised decking, so hopefully no extra rat insurgents. I hadn't
>> thought of heat/expansion problems, and so will need to consider this and
>> make enquiries of suppliers if we decide to go ahead with the idea. Whilst
>> mentioning all creatures great and small in passing, we also have newts in
>> our pond, so mustn't muddy too many waters.
>>
>> TeaTeaFN - Tony
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 3:23 PM chris.booth--- via Tech1 <
>> tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> I had a large deck installed in 2011 ? the material was a composite,
>>> trade name Twinsen.
>>> The only problem was that the planks ?stretched? in the heat and
>>> threatened to buckle ? by this time the installer had gone broke, but I
>>> managed to find one of his original team to trim and refit the planks.
>>> Still going fine despite that.....and no rats either even though next
>>> door neighbour has chicken!
>>> ----------
>>> Chris B
>>>
>>> *From:* Geoff Fletcher via Tech1
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 5, 2018 3:04 PM
>>> *To:* Nick Ware
>>> *Cc:* tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Tech1] Any ideas for composite decking?
>>>
>>> I was just going to point out the rat problem Nick. You beat me to it my
>>> friend. It can be a damn nuscience.
>>> Geoff F
>>>
>>> On Wed, 5 Sep 2018 at 14:34, Nick Ware via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Actually, an interesting irrelevancy maybe, but I?ve got to know the
>>>> local Council pest controller quite well in the last couple of years. He
>>>> used to work full-time for the Borough Council until he was made redundant
>>>> and pest control was outsourced to an outside company. That company? Him!
>>>> Now he says he earns far more than he did as a Council employee. If I call
>>>> the Council for pest control assistance, the service is free, but as a
>>>> local tax payer paying ?306.00 per month (x10 PA) I have to wonder how
>>>> free?! And then there?s the bin men, the recycling centre, etc., etc. All
>>>> outsourced.
>>>>
>>>> Nick.
>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>
>>>> On 5 Sep 2018, at 15:14, Peter Fox <peter.fox at tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I concur with Nick, although our neighbour wasn't in denial about
>>>> Roland and family. He also paid out twice by replacing the decking next to
>>>> the house with slates. In fact he paid out three times because he had a new
>>>> decking of grey painted wood put at the top of the garden instead, and
>>>> within months (it seemed,) it started curling up and warping here and
>>>> there. I know nothing about composite decking but if it doesn't warp then
>>>> go for it! At least the rats all left
>>>>
>>>> Peter F
>>>>
>>>> On 05/09/2018 13:31, Nick Ware via Tech1 wrote:
>>>>
>>>> A neighbour of mine spent a lot of money having fairly extensive
>>>> decking put down about eight years ago in his back garden, and very nice it
>>>> was. Now, in the last couple of months he?s had it all taken up and
>>>> replaced with posh paving slabs because the decking was a perfect haven for
>>>> rats. Unfortunately we have an ongoing problem with some scruffy
>>>> inconsiderate other neighbours nearby who leave out food waste and
>>>> packaging that attracts rats. They of course deny that they are the cause
>>>> of the problem. We never had rats before they came along, and it?s not
>>>> (dare I say?) the sort of area you?d expect rats.
>>>> My advice would be, know your neighbours? habits before considering
>>>> decking.
>>>> I hope that doesn?t sound pessimistic or negative, but it is worth
>>>> being aware.
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Nick.
>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>
>>>> On 5 Sep 2018, at 11:32, Tony Grant via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Good morning,
>>>>
>>>> I'm contemplating having some decking in part of the garden, and if so,
>>>> would probably go for composite, since I'm not going to be willing (or
>>>> able!) to keep maintaining it over the coming years. Have you got any
>>>> ideas, suggestions, caveats with what to look out for, etc.?
>>>>
>>>> TeaTeaFN - Tony
>>>>
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From martin at theeccles.uk  Thu Sep  6 15:24:40 2018
From: martin at theeccles.uk (Martin Eccles)
Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2018 21:24:40 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] A request to the people of Sound
In-Reply-To: <b494d673-99eb-ccc5-0941-afdc64210716@howell61.f9.co.uk>
References: <8652e8b9-1941-b062-25ae-078465d32963@gmail.com>	<10340886.884301536259808277.JavaMail.defaultUser@defaultHost>
	<b494d673-99eb-ccc5-0941-afdc64210716@howell61.f9.co.uk>
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Here is ORBEMS site about grams?

 

http://www.orbem.co.uk/grams/grams_1.htm

 

Martin.

 

 

From: Tech1 <tech1-bounces at tech-ops.co.uk> On Behalf Of John Howell via Tech1
Sent: 06 September 2018 21:20
To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
Subject: Re: [Tech1] A request to the people of Sound

 

Here's a TD7, it tracked at 2.5oz. If you're talking of the 1960s I don't believe there were ever any at TV Centre.

'Grams' at TVC were twin units called RP2s and were Garrard 301 tuntables with fast start facilities. They had Tannoy variable reluctance cartridges which 'turned over' to give a choice of fine or coarse groove stylii.

The last TD7s in West London Television were at Lime Grove Studios D,E, G, and R and were replced just as I started on Grams (just as well really).

John Howell.



On 06/09/2018 19:50, doug.prior--- via Tech1 wrote:

Hi Alec  

 

It was a BBC TD7

 

In my earlier radio studio testing duties we were told the method of setting the tone arm was to place the needle on you finger - increase the weight till it drew blood and take it back a notch. Happy days

 

Doug Prior

----Original Message----
From: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk <mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> 
Date: 06/09/2018 17:00
To: "TechOps Forum" <mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
Subj: [Tech1] A request to the people of Sound

Hi,

What were the old heavy cumbersome record decks in the TC studios Sound 
Galleries in the mid 1960s?  I think they had moving coil pickups (they 
were heavy) and had straight arms: mainly ran at 78 rpm IIRC..

Even better, if you have a picture of one, that would be magic (it's for 
a U3A talk/presentation).

I have had a troll round the internet and the Tech Ops archives, without 
success as yet.

Thanks in advance!

-- 

Best Regards

Alec

Alec Bray

alec.bray.2 at gmail.com <mailto:alec.bray.2 at gmail.com> 
mob:    07789 561 346
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From martin at theeccles.uk  Thu Sep  6 15:35:16 2018
From: martin at theeccles.uk (Martin Eccles)
Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2018 21:35:16 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] FW:  A request to the people of Sound
References: <8652e8b9-1941-b062-25ae-078465d32963@gmail.com>	<10340886.884301536259808277.JavaMail.defaultUser@defaultHost>
	<b494d673-99eb-ccc5-0941-afdc64210716@howell61.f9.co.uk> 
Message-ID: <00c201d44621$1f0dcc10$5d296430$@theeccles.uk>

 

Here is ORBEMS page about grams from great its site of all things Old Broadcasting?

 

http://www.orbem.co.uk/grams/grams_1.htm

 

 <http://www.orbem.co.uk/index.htm> 

 

Martin.

 

 

From: Tech1 <tech1-bounces at tech-ops.co.uk <mailto:tech1-bounces at tech-ops.co.uk> > On Behalf Of John Howell via Tech1
Sent: 06 September 2018 21:20
To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk <mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> 
Subject: Re: [Tech1] A request to the people of Sound

 

Here's a TD7, it tracked at 2.5oz. If you're talking of the 1960s I don't believe there were ever any at TV Centre.

'Grams' at TVC were twin units called RP2s and were Garrard 301 tuntables with fast start facilities. They had Tannoy variable reluctance cartridges which 'turned over' to give a choice of fine or coarse groove stylii.

The last TD7s in West London Television were at Lime Grove Studios D,E, G, and R and were replced just as I started on Grams (just as well really).

John Howell.



On 06/09/2018 19:50, doug.prior--- via Tech1 wrote:

Hi Alec  

 

It was a BBC TD7

 

In my earlier radio studio testing duties we were told the method of setting the tone arm was to place the needle on you finger - increase the weight till it drew blood and take it back a notch. Happy days

 

Doug Prior

----Original Message----
From: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk <mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> 
Date: 06/09/2018 17:00
To: "TechOps Forum" <mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
Subj: [Tech1] A request to the people of Sound

Hi,

What were the old heavy cumbersome record decks in the TC studios Sound 
Galleries in the mid 1960s?  I think they had moving coil pickups (they 
were heavy) and had straight arms: mainly ran at 78 rpm IIRC..

Even better, if you have a picture of one, that would be magic (it's for 
a U3A talk/presentation).

I have had a troll round the internet and the Tech Ops archives, without 
success as yet.

Thanks in advance!

-- 

Best Regards

Alec

Alec Bray

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mob:    07789 561 346
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From johnhcox at gmail.com  Thu Sep  6 16:34:53 2018
From: johnhcox at gmail.com (John Cox)
Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2018 22:34:53 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] A request to the people of Sound
Message-ID: <5b919d7a.1c69fb81.b52cd.ae99@mx.google.com>


Alec, have a look at Stories BBC & EMI -Museum of Magnetic Sound Recording   wwwmuseumofmagneticsoundrecording.org  cheers John.
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From mibridge at mac.com  Thu Sep  6 16:37:55 2018
From: mibridge at mac.com (Mike Giles)
Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2018 22:37:55 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] A request to the people of Sound
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The TD7 had two turntables and three rotary faders on the front panel. The middle fader was for a microphone to allow the operator to make announcements ~ largely applicable to Bush House, I believe. Unlike later turntables, the stylus was angled, so you couldn?t scrub to locate an in-point. This also reminds me that recordings requiring more than one disc often had alternating tracking, so that the first disc would play from the outside in, then the second would play from the inside ~ this enabled less noticeable changeovers as the quality of recordings deteriorated towards the centre of the disc, where the stylus to groove velocity reduced with decreasing radius. For continuous material, mainly music, there was usually a significant overlap between discs, to allow the operator to sync the succeeding disc with the one currently on air and I remember practising changeovers at Wood Norton, but I never had to do it in earnest.

Mike G

> On 6 Sep 2018, at 21:20, John Howell via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> Here's a TD7, it tracked at 2.5oz. If you're talking of the 1960s I don't believe there were ever any at TV Centre.
> 
> 'Grams' at TVC were twin units called RP2s and were Garrard 301 tuntables with fast start facilities. They had Tannoy variable reluctance cartridges which 'turned over' to give a choice of fine or coarse groove stylii.
> 
> The last TD7s in West London Television were at Lime Grove Studios D,E, G, and R and were replced just as I started on Grams (just as well really).
> John Howell.
> 
> 
> 
> On 06/09/2018 19:50, doug.prior--- via Tech1 wrote:
>> Hi Alec 
>> 
>> It was a BBC TD7
>> 
>> In my earlier radio studio testing duties we were told the method of setting the tone arm was to place the needle on you finger - increase the weight till it drew blood and take it back a notch. Happy days
>> 
>> Doug Prior
>> 
>> ----Original Message----
>> From: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk <mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
>> Date: 06/09/2018 17:00
>> To: "TechOps Forum"<tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> <mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
>> Subj: [Tech1] A request to the people of Sound
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> What were the old heavy cumbersome record decks in the TC studios Sound 
>> Galleries in the mid 1960s?  I think they had moving coil pickups (they 
>> were heavy) and had straight arms: mainly ran at 78 rpm IIRC..
>> 
>> Even better, if you have a picture of one, that would be magic (it's for 
>> a U3A talk/presentation).
>> 
>> I have had a troll round the internet and the Tech Ops archives, without 
>> success as yet.
>> 
>> Thanks in advance!
>> 
>> -- 
>> 
>> Best Regards
>> 
>> Alec
>> 
>> Alec Bray
>> 
>> alec.bray.2 at gmail.com <mailto:alec.bray.2 at gmail.com>
>> mob:    07789 561 346
>> home:   0118 981 7502
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From mibridge at mac.com  Thu Sep  6 16:40:38 2018
From: mibridge at mac.com (Mike Giles)
Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2018 22:40:38 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Any ideas for composite decking?
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I think you just hit the deck, Tony!

Mike G


> On 6 Sep 2018, at 21:21, Tony Grant via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> Could be the Red Tea Bar bromide is eventually having an effect, hmmm, must stop quacking these obvious jokes, OK, if you duck, they go over your head, but this the web we're on (cue spider jokes as a spin off, will this one fly too? Perhaps up to the beak to decide). Hallo nurse, swallow what pills?.........zzzzzz
> 
> TeaTeaFN - Tony
> 
> On Thu, Sep 6, 2018 at 1:45 PM vernon.dyer via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk <mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>> wrote:
> Has someone put something in your tea, Tony? 
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Tony Grant via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk <mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>>
> Date: 06/09/2018 13:23 (GMT+00:00)
> To:
> Cc: TechOps Forum <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk <mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>>
> Subject: Re: [Tech1] Any ideas for composite decking?
> 
> Hang on a minute, I just bought a duck in Morrisons and brought it home in the car, should I eat it if that makes it a dead animal car case? Argggh.....quick nurse, the screens.......too late, it's curtains.......
> 
> TeaTeaFN - Tony
> 
> On Thu, Sep 6, 2018 at 10:40 AM Nick Ware via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk <mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>> wrote:
> It?s worth reading the Wikipedia ?Rodenticides? pages before attempting DIY rat poisoning. Some products are in any case, illegal, and most are fatal to cats, dogs and other animals that prey on dead animal carcases.
> 
> Best,
> Nick. 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> On 6 Sep 2018, at 10:39, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk <mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>> wrote:
> 
>> We have an intermittent rat problem. Every couple of years I have to go into extermination mode. We now have three of those box things that you see at supermarkets by the walls.  I don't like poisoning, so at one point I bought an air gun, the most powerful you could legally have.  I did manage to shoot three rats, but the endless waiting got tedious.  We live slightly in the country(ish) - neither we or the neighbours are into fast food dumping we don't put bread out for the birds as we used to. And still they come....
>> 
>> B
>> 
>>   
>> 
>> On 05/09/2018 21:22, Tony Grant via Tech1 wrote:
>>> Ah, I knew I could find useful advice here. OK, I forgot to mention that this will be decking raised above ground level, to enjoy the view across the sea. And we've already had rat problems, since we live in the country, and there's every kind of animal/bird/insect, etc you could wish to see. The local council's pest control is good, but we have to pay a fee of ?48. The best deterrent is a cat, but we don't want to have any animals of our own.
>>> 
>>> Anyway, raised decking, so hopefully no extra rat insurgents. I hadn't thought of heat/expansion problems, and so will need to consider this and make enquiries of suppliers if we decide to go ahead with the idea. Whilst mentioning all creatures great and small in passing, we also have newts in our pond, so mustn't muddy too many waters.
>>> 
>>> TeaTeaFN - Tony
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 3:23 PM chris.booth--- via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk <mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>> wrote:
>>> I had a large deck installed in 2011 ? the material was a composite, trade name Twinsen.
>>> The only problem was that the planks ?stretched? in the heat and threatened to buckle ? by this time the installer had gone broke, but I managed to find one of his original team to trim and refit the planks.
>>> Still going fine despite that.....and no rats either even though next door neighbour has chicken!
>>> ----------
>>> Chris B
>>>  
>>> From: Geoff Fletcher via Tech1 <>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 5, 2018 3:04 PM
>>> To: Nick Ware <>
>>> Cc: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk <>
>>> Subject: Re: [Tech1] Any ideas for composite decking?
>>>  
>>> I was just going to point out the rat problem Nick. You beat me to it my friend. It can be a damn nuscience.
>>> Geoff F
>>>  
>>> On Wed, 5 Sep 2018 at 14:34, Nick Ware via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk <>> wrote:
>>> Actually, an interesting irrelevancy maybe, but I?ve got to know the local Council pest controller quite well in the last couple of years. He used to work full-time for the Borough Council until he was made redundant and pest control was outsourced to an outside company. That company? Him! Now he says he earns far more than he did as a Council employee. If I call the Council for pest control assistance, the service is free, but as a local tax payer paying ?306.00 per month (x10 PA) I have to wonder how free?! And then there?s the bin men, the recycling centre, etc., etc. All outsourced.
>>> 
>>> Nick.
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
>>> On 5 Sep 2018, at 15:14, Peter Fox <peter.fox at tiscali.co.uk <>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I concur with Nick, although our neighbour wasn't in denial about Roland and family. He also paid out twice by replacing the decking next to the house with slates. In fact he paid out three times because he had a new decking of grey painted wood put at the top of the garden instead, and within months (it seemed,) it started curling up and warping here and there. I know nothing about composite decking but if it doesn't warp then go for it! At least the rats all left
>>>>  
>>>> Peter F
>>>>  
>>>> On 05/09/2018 13:31, Nick Ware via Tech1 wrote:
>>>>> A neighbour of mine spent a lot of money having fairly extensive decking put down about eight years ago in his back garden, and very nice it was. Now, in the last couple of months he?s had it all taken up and replaced with posh paving slabs because the decking was a perfect haven for rats. Unfortunately we have an ongoing problem with some scruffy inconsiderate other neighbours nearby who leave out food waste and packaging that attracts rats. They of course deny that they are the cause of the problem. We never had rats before they came along, and it?s not (dare I say?) the sort of area you?d expect rats.
>>>>> My advice would be, know your neighbours? habits before considering decking.
>>>>> I hope that doesn?t sound pessimistic or negative, but it is worth being aware. 
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>> Nick.
>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 5 Sep 2018, at 11:32, Tony Grant via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk <>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Good morning,
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> I'm contemplating having some decking in part of the garden, and if so, would probably go for composite, since I'm not going to be willing (or able!) to keep maintaining it over the coming years. Have you got any ideas, suggestions, caveats with what to look out for, etc.?
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> TeaTeaFN - Tony
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From martin at theeccles.uk  Thu Sep  6 18:21:18 2018
From: martin at theeccles.uk (Martin Eccles)
Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2018 00:21:18 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] A request to the people of Sound
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References: <8652e8b9-1941-b062-25ae-078465d32963@gmail.com>	<10340886.884301536259808277.JavaMail.defaultUser@defaultHost>	<b494d673-99eb-ccc5-0941-afdc64210716@howell61.f9.co.uk>
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Here is ORBEMS page about grams from its great site of all things Old Broadcasting?

 

http://www.orbem.co.uk/grams/grams_1.htm

 

 <http://www.orbem.co.uk/index.htm> 

 

Martin. E.

 

 

From: Tech1 <tech1-bounces at tech-ops.co.uk> On Behalf Of Mike Giles via Tech1
Sent: 06 September 2018 22:38
To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
Subject: Re: [Tech1] A request to the people of Sound

 

The TD7 had two turntables and three rotary faders on the front panel. The middle fader was for a microphone to allow the operator to make announcements ~ largely applicable to Bush House, I believe. Unlike later turntables, the stylus was angled, so you couldn?t scrub to locate an in-point. This also reminds me that recordings requiring more than one disc often had alternating tracking, so that the first disc would play from the outside in, then the second would play from the inside ~ this enabled less noticeable changeovers as the quality of recordings deteriorated towards the centre of the disc, where the stylus to groove velocity reduced with decreasing radius. For continuous material, mainly music, there was usually a significant overlap between discs, to allow the operator to sync the succeeding disc with the one currently on air and I remember practising changeovers at Wood Norton, but I never had to do it in earnest.

 

Mike G





On 6 Sep 2018, at 21:20, John Howell via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk <mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> > wrote:

 

Here's a TD7, it tracked at 2.5oz. If you're talking of the 1960s I don't believe there were ever any at TV Centre.

'Grams' at TVC were twin units called RP2s and were Garrard 301 tuntables with fast start facilities. They had Tannoy variable reluctance cartridges which 'turned over' to give a choice of fine or coarse groove stylii.

The last TD7s in West London Television were at Lime Grove Studios D,E, G, and R and were replced just as I started on Grams (just as well really).

John Howell.



On 06/09/2018 19:50, doug.prior--- via Tech1 wrote:

Hi Alec  

 

It was a BBC TD7

 

In my earlier radio studio testing duties we were told the method of setting the tone arm was to place the needle on you finger - increase the weight till it drew blood and take it back a notch. Happy days

 

Doug Prior

----Original Message----
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Date: 06/09/2018 17:00
To: "TechOps Forum" <mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
Subj: [Tech1] A request to the people of Sound

Hi,

What were the old heavy cumbersome record decks in the TC studios Sound 
Galleries in the mid 1960s?  I think they had moving coil pickups (they 
were heavy) and had straight arms: mainly ran at 78 rpm IIRC..

Even better, if you have a picture of one, that would be magic (it's for 
a U3A talk/presentation).

I have had a troll round the internet and the Tech Ops archives, without 
success as yet.

Thanks in advance!

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Alec

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From jpn at imixmics.co.uk  Fri Sep  7 02:38:18 2018
From: jpn at imixmics.co.uk (John Nottage)
Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2018 08:38:18 +0100 (BST)
Subject: [Tech1] Any ideas for composite decking?
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Until recently, we had hedgehogs regularly visiting the garden at night & rats visiting during the day (camera trap shows night visitors). Then the neighbours complained about the rats to the council & I guess lots of poison was spread round. Now we have rats & no hedgehogs! I have rat bait boxes which I have used in the past, but I worried about the hedgehogs so I stopped. Since then I spent a fortune on a "humane" rat zapper (www.goodnaturetraps.co.uk). I mounted it carefully in a box, inaccessible to hogs. The rats go through the box, but bypass the trap, ignoring the "irresistible" chocolate bait - so we still have rats & no hedgehogs. The problem seems to be is that rats are very clever whereas hedgehogs are not. The nearest rat nest I know of is under a neighbours huge garden shed. He's about have that knocked down, so it will be interesting to see if the rats get fewer.

John


> On 06 September 2018 at 10:40 Nick Ware via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
>  
> It?s worth reading the Wikipedia ?Rodenticides? pages before attempting DIY rat poisoning. Some products are in any case, illegal, and most are fatal to cats, dogs and other animals that prey on dead animal carcases.
> 
> Best,
> Nick.
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> On 6 Sep 2018, at 10:39, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk<mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>> wrote:
> 
> We have an intermittent rat problem. Every couple of years I have to go into extermination mode. We now have three of those box things that you see at supermarkets by the walls.  I don't like poisoning, so at one point I bought an air gun, the most powerful you could legally have.  I did manage to shoot three rats, but the endless waiting got tedious.  We live slightly in the country(ish) - neither we or the neighbours are into fast food dumping we don't put bread out for the birds as we used to. And still they come....
> 
> B
> 
> 
> 
> On 05/09/2018 21:22, Tony Grant via Tech1 wrote:
> Ah, I knew I could find useful advice here. OK, I forgot to mention that this will be decking raised above ground level, to enjoy the view across the sea. And we've already had rat problems, since we live in the country, and there's every kind of animal/bird/insect, etc you could wish to see. The local council's pest control is good, but we have to pay a fee of ?48. The best deterrent is a cat, but we don't want to have any animals of our own.
> 
> Anyway, raised decking, so hopefully no extra rat insurgents. I hadn't thought of heat/expansion problems, and so will need to consider this and make enquiries of suppliers if we decide to go ahead with the idea. Whilst mentioning all creatures great and small in passing, we also have newts in our pond, so mustn't muddy too many waters.
> 
> TeaTeaFN - Tony
>


From jpn at imixmics.co.uk  Fri Sep  7 02:45:25 2018
From: jpn at imixmics.co.uk (John Nottage)
Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2018 08:45:25 +0100 (BST)
Subject: [Tech1] Google maps
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I just discovered 3D Google Earth the other day whilst looking for the theatre in Gt Yarmouth. Amazing! I still find it hard to understand how they can make it so I can fly round buildings in such detail. I was also surprised to find Gt Yarmouth & Lowestoft are in 3D whereas the London suburbs are not. Southwold isn't yet either - looking forward to that happening.

John

> On 06 September 2018 at 11:58 Ian H via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> 
> This thread is a good starting point:
> https://steamcommunity.com/app/348250/discussions/0/215439774860056824/
> (although a couple of years old)
> 
> I
> 
> On Thu, Sep 6, 2018 at 9:50 AM Bernard Newnham via Tech1 <
> tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> > Does anyone know why some parts of the country (world) are in 3D and
> > others aren't - like my house?
> >
> > B
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From dave at davesound.co.uk  Fri Sep  7 04:48:09 2018
From: dave at davesound.co.uk (Dave Plowman)
Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2018 10:48:09 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] A request to the people of Sound
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In article <8652e8b9-1941-b062-25ae-078465d32963 at gmail.com>,
   Alec Bray via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> What were the old heavy cumbersome record decks in the TC studios Sound 
> Galleries in the mid 1960s?  I think they had moving coil pickups (they 
> were heavy) and had straight arms: mainly ran at 78 rpm IIRC..

I don't remember those 78 rpm only decks at TC. TC had Garrard 301 based
decks with a 'normal' pivoting pickup. The RP2. Which could also play 78
RPM discs, as well as 33 and 45.  

The parallel tracking 78 rpm decks were to be found in Lime Grove. etc.
The TD7.

-- 
*I'm not your type. I'm not inflatable.

    Dave Plowman     dave at davesound.co.uk     London SW 12
    


From geoffreyhawkes at btinternet.com  Fri Sep  7 05:13:31 2018
From: geoffreyhawkes at btinternet.com (Geoffrey Hawkes)
Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2018 11:13:31 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Any ideas for composite decking?
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We have a large garden and a longstanding ?problem? with rats, mainly in our compost heaps and bin, fortunately well away from the house. The classic spring traps seem totally ineffective as the rats are too clever to get caught in them. Poison, put down where birds can?t get it appears to be the only way to deal with them, though they don?t always go for that either.
The old saying that you?re never more than fifteen feet or whatever from a rat I think is probably true and they?re no respecters of class or type of neighbourhood, being content to fit in with either.
As for hedgehogs, you?re lucky if you see one, even squashed on the road. Our garden with lots of hedges and places to hide would be ideal, apart from one thing: badgers which a local farmer told me are their only natural predators, having the teeth and claws to get through their spines and unwrap them when curled up. I wish they would team up with the foxes and reduce the rabbit population too as they are definitely on the increase and are a bigger pest in the garden than rats by far, though like squirrels they have much better PR ? ,
Regards, Geoff Hawkes 

Geoff
Sent from my iPhone

> On 7 Sep 2018, at 08:38, John Nottage via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> Until recently, we had hedgehogs regularly visiting the garden at night & rats visiting during the day (camera trap shows night visitors). Then the neighbours complained about the rats to the council & I guess lots of poison was spread round. Now we have rats & no hedgehogs! I have rat bait boxes which I have used in the past, but I worried about the hedgehogs so I stopped. Since then I spent a fortune on a "humane" rat zapper (www.goodnaturetraps.co.uk). I mounted it carefully in a box, inaccessible to hogs. The rats go through the box, but bypass the trap, ignoring the "irresistible" chocolate bait - so we still have rats & no hedgehogs. The problem seems to be is that rats are very clever whereas hedgehogs are not. The nearest rat nest I know of is under a neighbours huge garden shed. He's about have that knocked down, so it will be interesting to see if the rats get fewer.
> 
> John
> 
> 
>> On 06 September 2018 at 10:40 Nick Ware via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
>> 
>> It?s worth reading the Wikipedia ?Rodenticides? pages before attempting DIY rat poisoning. Some products are in any case, illegal, and most are fatal to cats, dogs and other animals that prey on dead animal carcases.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Nick.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>> On 6 Sep 2018, at 10:39, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk<mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>> wrote:
>> 
>> We have an intermittent rat problem. Every couple of years I have to go into extermination mode. We now have three of those box things that you see at supermarkets by the walls.  I don't like poisoning, so at one point I bought an air gun, the most powerful you could legally have.  I did manage to shoot three rats, but the endless waiting got tedious.  We live slightly in the country(ish) - neither we or the neighbours are into fast food dumping we don't put bread out for the birds as we used to. And still they come....
>> 
>> B
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 05/09/2018 21:22, Tony Grant via Tech1 wrote:
>> Ah, I knew I could find useful advice here. OK, I forgot to mention that this will be decking raised above ground level, to enjoy the view across the sea. And we've already had rat problems, since we live in the country, and there's every kind of animal/bird/insect, etc you could wish to see. The local council's pest control is good, but we have to pay a fee of ?48. The best deterrent is a cat, but we don't want to have any animals of our own.
>> 
>> Anyway, raised decking, so hopefully no extra rat insurgents. I hadn't thought of heat/expansion problems, and so will need to consider this and make enquiries of suppliers if we decide to go ahead with the idea. Whilst mentioning all creatures great and small in passing, we also have newts in our pond, so mustn't muddy too many waters.
>> 
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From david.jasma at sky.com  Fri Sep  7 05:47:42 2018
From: david.jasma at sky.com (Dave Buckley)
Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2018 11:47:42 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] TD7s
Message-ID: <000301d44698$3479d540$9d6d7fc0$@sky.com>

TD7s could also be found in the AP dubbing suite, which had a bank of them
at the back of the mixer room. There was also one RP2, a cartridge machine,
and a reel to reel machine. This setup was probably there until news moved
out. The dubbing theatres in TVC all had RP2s, a cart machine and a reel to
reel machine.

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From ian.hillson at gmail.com  Fri Sep  7 06:19:04 2018
From: ian.hillson at gmail.com (Ian H)
Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2018 12:19:04 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Fwd: RICHMOND FILM SERVICES ONLINE AUCTION OF HIGH
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They did have one or two historic bits on their hire stock list if "Golden
Age" are interested - RFS were about the only place to still hire out one
solitary RCA BK6B lanyard mic, I seem to remember @ ?5.50 per day

I

http://rfs-hire.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/RFS-Rental-Catalogue.pdf

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From bernie833 at gmail.com  Fri Sep  7 06:20:39 2018
From: bernie833 at gmail.com (Bernard Newnham)
Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2018 12:20:39 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Any ideas for composite decking?
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We really ought to eat rabbits and squirrels again.?? I was brought up 
eating rabbit, as chicken was too expensive, and I tried squirrel for 
the first time the other week. Both are endlessly available and tasty, 
but for some reason aren't stocked in the supermarket.

B



On 07/09/2018 11:13, Geoffrey Hawkes via Tech1 wrote:
> We have a large garden and a longstanding ?problem? with rats, mainly in our compost heaps and bin, fortunately well away from the house. The classic spring traps seem totally ineffective as the rats are too clever to get caught in them. Poison, put down where birds can?t get it appears to be the only way to deal with them, though they don?t always go for that either.
> The old saying that you?re never more than fifteen feet or whatever from a rat I think is probably true and they?re no respecters of class or type of neighbourhood, being content to fit in with either.
> As for hedgehogs, you?re lucky if you see one, even squashed on the road. Our garden with lots of hedges and places to hide would be ideal, apart from one thing: badgers which a local farmer told me are their only natural predators, having the teeth and claws to get through their spines and unwrap them when curled up. I wish they would team up with the foxes and reduce the rabbit population too as they are definitely on the increase and are a bigger pest in the garden than rats by far, though like squirrels they have much better PR ? ,
> Regards, Geoff Hawkes
>
> Geoff
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On 7 Sep 2018, at 08:38, John Nottage via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>> Until recently, we had hedgehogs regularly visiting the garden at night & rats visiting during the day (camera trap shows night visitors). Then the neighbours complained about the rats to the council & I guess lots of poison was spread round. Now we have rats & no hedgehogs! I have rat bait boxes which I have used in the past, but I worried about the hedgehogs so I stopped. Since then I spent a fortune on a "humane" rat zapper (www.goodnaturetraps.co.uk). I mounted it carefully in a box, inaccessible to hogs. The rats go through the box, but bypass the trap, ignoring the "irresistible" chocolate bait - so we still have rats & no hedgehogs. The problem seems to be is that rats are very clever whereas hedgehogs are not. The nearest rat nest I know of is under a neighbours huge garden shed. He's about have that knocked down, so it will be interesting to see if the rats get fewer.
>>
>> John
>>
>>
>>> On 06 September 2018 at 10:40 Nick Ware via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>> It?s worth reading the Wikipedia ?Rodenticides? pages before attempting DIY rat poisoning. Some products are in any case, illegal, and most are fatal to cats, dogs and other animals that prey on dead animal carcases.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Nick.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>> On 6 Sep 2018, at 10:39, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk<mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>> wrote:
>>>
>>> We have an intermittent rat problem. Every couple of years I have to go into extermination mode. We now have three of those box things that you see at supermarkets by the walls.  I don't like poisoning, so at one point I bought an air gun, the most powerful you could legally have.  I did manage to shoot three rats, but the endless waiting got tedious.  We live slightly in the country(ish) - neither we or the neighbours are into fast food dumping we don't put bread out for the birds as we used to. And still they come....
>>>
>>> B
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 05/09/2018 21:22, Tony Grant via Tech1 wrote:
>>> Ah, I knew I could find useful advice here. OK, I forgot to mention that this will be decking raised above ground level, to enjoy the view across the sea. And we've already had rat problems, since we live in the country, and there's every kind of animal/bird/insect, etc you could wish to see. The local council's pest control is good, but we have to pay a fee of ?48. The best deterrent is a cat, but we don't want to have any animals of our own.
>>>
>>> Anyway, raised decking, so hopefully no extra rat insurgents. I hadn't thought of heat/expansion problems, and so will need to consider this and make enquiries of suppliers if we decide to go ahead with the idea. Whilst mentioning all creatures great and small in passing, we also have newts in our pond, so mustn't muddy too many waters.
>>>
>>> TeaTeaFN - Tony
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From alec.bray.2 at gmail.com  Fri Sep  7 09:49:01 2018
From: alec.bray.2 at gmail.com (Alec Bray)
Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2018 15:49:01 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Thank you all! - Re: A request to the people of Sound - TD/7
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A grateful "Thank you" to all of you who answered my plea for help!

I now have the piccies and info that I wanted for my talk!

On 06/09/2018 22:37, Mike Giles via Tech1 wrote:
> For continuous material, mainly music, there was usually a significant 
> overlap between discs, to allow the operator to sync the succeeding 
> disc with the one currently on air and I remember practising 
> changeovers at Wood Norton, 

I had to do that changeover practice at Wood Norton - the disk given to 
us was the Eightsome Reel by Jimmy Shand and his Band - really tricky to 
do the crossfade at the right point.? Having tried for some times to do 
it, my lab partner and I decided to crossfade to the BBC Light Programme 
(piped everywhere) - and as we did the crossfade, the Light Programme 
was playing the Eightsome Reel by Jimmy Shand and his Band ....? (it was 
popular at the time).

Thanks, too,? to Mike for the explanation of why we were trained to do 
it - I had totally forgotten that? (or had we actually been told?) - 
anyway now after 55 years it all makes sense!

Thanks again to all of you!

-- 

Best Regards

Alec

Alec Bray

alec.bray.2 at gmail.com
mob:    07789 561 346
home:   0118 981 7502



From saranewman at hotmail.com  Fri Sep  7 10:57:18 2018
From: saranewman at hotmail.com (Sara Newman)
Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2018 15:57:18 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Any ideas for composite decking?
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Hi, 

The pity is that a woman in Israel has fond a way of controlling rats thro their reproductive system. It does not kill them but makes them think they are safe so they reduce the numbers of their litters per year and also the amount born each time. The rat population then stabilisesand the rat problems does not go away but they reduce the numbers without harmful bait that kills lots of other ?good? mammals. Its being trialled in New York. I heard it on a radio programme 2 - 3 years ago. 
Sarabn

> On 7 Sep 2018, at 11:13, Geoffrey Hawkes via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> We have a large garden and a longstanding ?problem? with rats, mainly in our compost heaps and bin, fortunately well away from the house. The classic spring traps seem totally ineffective as the rats are too clever to get caught in them. Poison, put down where birds can?t get it appears to be the only way to deal with them, though they don?t always go for that either.
> The old saying that you?re never more than fifteen feet or whatever from a rat I think is probably true and they?re no respecters of class or type of neighbourhood, being content to fit in with either.
> As for hedgehogs, you?re lucky if you see one, even squashed on the road. Our garden with lots of hedges and places to hide would be ideal, apart from one thing: badgers which a local farmer told me are their only natural predators, having the teeth and claws to get through their spines and unwrap them when curled up. I wish they would team up with the foxes and reduce the rabbit population too as they are definitely on the increase and are a bigger pest in the garden than rats by far, though like squirrels they have much better PR ? ,
> Regards, Geoff Hawkes 
> 
> Geoff
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 7 Sep 2018, at 08:38, John Nottage via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
>> 
>> Until recently, we had hedgehogs regularly visiting the garden at night & rats visiting during the day (camera trap shows night visitors). Then the neighbours complained about the rats to the council & I guess lots of poison was spread round. Now we have rats & no hedgehogs! I have rat bait boxes which I have used in the past, but I worried about the hedgehogs so I stopped. Since then I spent a fortune on a "humane" rat zapper (https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.goodnaturetraps.co.uk&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7Ca0ab3658c53d48161c6208d614aaa227%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636719120423003222&amp;sdata=sEm%2BNTgIBVNVYQXQ7Zkcm%2BiFyerK1a8zFty%2BjXTGqQk%3D&amp;reserved=0). I mounted it carefully in a box, inaccessible to hogs. The rats go through the box, but bypass the trap, ignoring the "irresistible" chocolate bait - so we still have rats & no hedgehogs. The problem seems to be is that rats are very clever whereas hedgehogs are not. The nearest rat nest I know of is under a neighbours huge garden shed. He's about have that knocked down, so it will be interesting to see if the rats get fewer.
>> 
>> John
>> 
>> 
>>> On 06 September 2018 at 10:40 Nick Ware via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
>>> 
>>> It?s worth reading the Wikipedia ?Rodenticides? pages before attempting DIY rat poisoning. Some products are in any case, illegal, and most are fatal to cats, dogs and other animals that prey on dead animal carcases.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> Nick.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
>>> On 6 Sep 2018, at 10:39, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk<mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> We have an intermittent rat problem. Every couple of years I have to go into extermination mode. We now have three of those box things that you see at supermarkets by the walls.  I don't like poisoning, so at one point I bought an air gun, the most powerful you could legally have.  I did manage to shoot three rats, but the endless waiting got tedious.  We live slightly in the country(ish) - neither we or the neighbours are into fast food dumping we don't put bread out for the birds as we used to. And still they come....
>>> 
>>> B
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 05/09/2018 21:22, Tony Grant via Tech1 wrote:
>>> Ah, I knew I could find useful advice here. OK, I forgot to mention that this will be decking raised above ground level, to enjoy the view across the sea. And we've already had rat problems, since we live in the country, and there's every kind of animal/bird/insect, etc you could wish to see. The local council's pest control is good, but we have to pay a fee of ?48. The best deterrent is a cat, but we don't want to have any animals of our own.
>>> 
>>> Anyway, raised decking, so hopefully no extra rat insurgents. I hadn't thought of heat/expansion problems, and so will need to consider this and make enquiries of suppliers if we decide to go ahead with the idea. Whilst mentioning all creatures great and small in passing, we also have newts in our pond, so mustn't muddy too many waters.
>>> 
>>> TeaTeaFN - Tony
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From geoffletch at gmail.com  Fri Sep  7 18:07:30 2018
From: geoffletch at gmail.com (Geoff Fletcher)
Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2018 00:07:30 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Gram Desk in TC5
Message-ID: <CAB99AB-weAc6_2StG8ZTbsRbqiTQeKtxFhzuLDHOa2qWQ0VYuw@mail.gmail.com>

Another pic for you Alec.
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From dave at davesound.co.uk  Fri Sep  7 18:18:13 2018
From: dave at davesound.co.uk (Dave Plowman)
Date: Sat, 08 Sep 2018 00:18:13 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Gram Desk in TC5
In-Reply-To: <CAB99AB-weAc6_2StG8ZTbsRbqiTQeKtxFhzuLDHOa2qWQ0VYuw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAB99AB-weAc6_2StG8ZTbsRbqiTQeKtxFhzuLDHOa2qWQ0VYuw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5734083b02dave@davesound.co.uk>

In article
<CAB99AB-weAc6_2StG8ZTbsRbqiTQeKtxFhzuLDHOa2qWQ0VYuw at mail.gmail.com>,
   Geoff Fletcher via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> Another pic for you Alec.
> Geoff  F

I don't remember Huw Thomas at all. Did he move before I joined in 62?

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From alawrance1 at me.com  Sat Sep  8 02:01:31 2018
From: alawrance1 at me.com (Alasdair Lawrance)
Date: Sat, 08 Sep 2018 08:01:31 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Gram Desk in TC5
In-Reply-To: <5734083b02dave@davesound.co.uk>
References: <CAB99AB-weAc6_2StG8ZTbsRbqiTQeKtxFhzuLDHOa2qWQ0VYuw@mail.gmail.com>
	<5734083b02dave@davesound.co.uk>
Message-ID: <AB2A6984-E79B-48EC-98A3-1C8CCFD13B0B@me.com>

Huw was in Cardiff when I went there in 1966 or 67. He was in cameras then, I think.

Alasdair Lawrance

Sent from my iPad2

> On 8 Sep 2018, at 00:18, Dave Plowman via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> In article
> <CAB99AB-weAc6_2StG8ZTbsRbqiTQeKtxFhzuLDHOa2qWQ0VYuw at mail.gmail.com>,
>   Geoff Fletcher via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
>> Another pic for you Alec.
>> Geoff  F
> 
> I don't remember Huw Thomas at all. Did he move before I joined in 62?
> 
> -- 
> *HOW IS IT POSSIBLE TO HAVE A CIVIL WAR?
> 
>    Dave Plowman     dave at davesound.co.uk     London SW 12
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From robert.miles at soundsuper.co.uk  Sat Sep  8 05:36:12 2018
From: robert.miles at soundsuper.co.uk (Robert Miles)
Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2018 11:36:12 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Hitchhikers DVD
Message-ID: <001e01d4475f$c33df5f0$49b9e1d0$@soundsuper.co.uk>

I have just seen that the BBC TV's Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy has had
a video make-over and will be released on 1 October with some interesting
extras. One of which is 'The Sound of Sypher' featuring Mike McCarthy.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/bbcstudios/2018/hitchhikers-guide-to-the-g
alaxy-dvd-bluray

 

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From dave at davesound.co.uk  Sat Sep  8 05:41:01 2018
From: dave at davesound.co.uk (Dave Plowman)
Date: Sat, 08 Sep 2018 11:41:01 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Gram Desk in TC5
In-Reply-To: <AB2A6984-E79B-48EC-98A3-1C8CCFD13B0B@me.com>
References: <CAB99AB-weAc6_2StG8ZTbsRbqiTQeKtxFhzuLDHOa2qWQ0VYuw@mail.gmail.com>
	<5734083b02dave@davesound.co.uk>
	<AB2A6984-E79B-48EC-98A3-1C8CCFD13B0B@me.com>
Message-ID: <573446be16dave@davesound.co.uk>

Thanks, Alasdair. Odd I don't remember the name or face.


In article <AB2A6984-E79B-48EC-98A3-1C8CCFD13B0B at me.com>,
   Alasdair Lawrance <alawrance1 at me.com> wrote:
> Huw was in Cardiff when I went there in 1966 or 67. He was in cameras then, I think.

> Alasdair Lawrance

> Sent from my iPad2

> > On 8 Sep 2018, at 00:18, Dave Plowman via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> > 
> > In article
> > <CAB99AB-weAc6_2StG8ZTbsRbqiTQeKtxFhzuLDHOa2qWQ0VYuw at mail.gmail.com>,
> >   Geoff Fletcher via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> >> Another pic for you Alec.
> >> Geoff  F
> > 
> > I don't remember Huw Thomas at all. Did he move before I joined in 62?
> > 
> > -- 
> > *HOW IS IT POSSIBLE TO HAVE A CIVIL WAR?
> > 
> >    Dave Plowman     dave at davesound.co.uk     London SW 12
> > 
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From rogerbunce at btinternet.com  Sat Sep  8 06:09:11 2018
From: rogerbunce at btinternet.com (ROGER BUNCE)
Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2018 11:09:11 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Tech1] Hitchhikers DVD
In-Reply-To: <001e01d4475f$c33df5f0$49b9e1d0$@soundsuper.co.uk>
References: <001e01d4475f$c33df5f0$49b9e1d0$@soundsuper.co.uk>
Message-ID: <1203648319.2209492.1536404951208@mail.yahoo.com>

Or, you could get a copy on 22nd September, as part of your ticket price, by going to the BFI event (as previously advertised).
?https://whatson.bfi.org.uk/Online/default.asp?doWork::WScontent::loadArticle=Load&BOparam::WScontent::loadArticle::article_id=2CA23050-B4F8-4EEB-9A7A-5D73586C0A78&BOparam::WScontent::loadArticle::context_id=1D9CE149-56FC-4351-A8E4-647BBC3086F4

luv, Rog.

      From: Robert Miles via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
 To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk 
 Sent: Saturday, 8 September 2018, 11:36
 Subject: [Tech1] Hitchhikers DVD
   
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From bernie833 at gmail.com  Sat Sep  8 07:24:46 2018
From: bernie833 at gmail.com (Bernard Newnham)
Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2018 13:24:46 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Hitchhikers DVD
In-Reply-To: <001e01d4475f$c33df5f0$49b9e1d0$@soundsuper.co.uk>
References: <001e01d4475f$c33df5f0$49b9e1d0$@soundsuper.co.uk>
Message-ID: <a9155c49-18ad-0024-bc56-66fbcf8f91f7@ntlworld.com>

Also -

*Trailer for Radio Times*
The Radio Times magazine announced their first and only Hitchhiker cover 
article in this televised trailer for the second radio series, featuring 
a super-intelligent shade of the colour blue, plus unique narration by 
Peter Jones.

Made by me and there because I kept a copy on VHS.? The only time that a 
smoke machine was ever used in the Pres area. It turned out that that 
air was recirculated to some extent, including into the continuities.

B




On 08/09/2018 11:36, Robert Miles via Tech1 wrote:
>
> I have just seen that the BBC TV?s Hitchhiker?s Guide to the Galaxy 
> has had a video make-over and will be released on 1 October with some 
> interesting extras. One of which is ?The Sound of Sypher? featuring 
> Mike McCarthy.
>
> https://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/bbcstudios/2018/hitchhikers-guide-to-the-galaxy-dvd-bluray
>
> Rob
>
>
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From bernie833 at gmail.com  Sat Sep  8 07:25:11 2018
From: bernie833 at gmail.com (Bernard Newnham)
Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2018 13:25:11 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Hitchhikers DVD
In-Reply-To: <001e01d4475f$c33df5f0$49b9e1d0$@soundsuper.co.uk>
References: <001e01d4475f$c33df5f0$49b9e1d0$@soundsuper.co.uk>
Message-ID: <ebcabe4f-47ea-28ec-5fee-655790ca16fa@gmail.com>

Also -

*Trailer for Radio Times*
The Radio Times magazine announced their first and only Hitchhiker cover 
article in this televised trailer for the second radio series, featuring 
a super-intelligent shade of the colour blue, plus unique narration by 
Peter Jones.

Made by me and there because I kept a copy on VHS.? The only time that a 
smoke machine was ever used in the Pres area. It turned out that that 
air was recirculated to some extent, including into the continuities.

B




On 08/09/2018 11:36, Robert Miles via Tech1 wrote:
>
> I have just seen that the BBC TV?s Hitchhiker?s Guide to the Galaxy 
> has had a video make-over and will be released on 1 October with some 
> interesting extras. One of which is ?The Sound of Sypher? featuring 
> Mike McCarthy.
>
> https://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/bbcstudios/2018/hitchhikers-guide-to-the-galaxy-dvd-bluray
>
> Rob
>
>
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From gary_critcher at yahoo.com  Sat Sep  8 08:08:23 2018
From: gary_critcher at yahoo.com (Gary Critcher)
Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2018 13:08:23 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Tech1] scanning B&W negs -- help!
References: <784800080.2266165.1536412103522.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <784800080.2266165.1536412103522@mail.yahoo.com>

lads I have a ton of negatives that need scanning for a book project I'm involved in, both colour and B&W.?I have no problem scanning colour negs and 35mm slides but when it comes to B&W I get just awful results, see attached.
?In the past I have asked Ian Norman of this parish to scan stuff for me which he has done, ?and has done an excellent job I must say, but I can't keep asking him to do them for me, especially as I have an all-singing, all-dancing scanner sitting not 12 inches away from me.?The examples you see here absolutely pale into insignificance compared to what Ian produces for me......? If anyone has any tips for me after looking at these latest examples, I would be very happy to hear it!
? all the best for the weekend,?Gary C
PS. going to e-mail Ian separately too in a few mins.

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From graeme.wall at icloud.com  Sat Sep  8 08:17:01 2018
From: graeme.wall at icloud.com (Graeme Wall)
Date: Sat, 08 Sep 2018 14:17:01 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] scanning B&W negs -- help!
In-Reply-To: <784800080.2266165.1536412103522@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <784800080.2266165.1536412103522.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
	<784800080.2266165.1536412103522@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <F339C40E-F4F4-4EC6-8BBE-7608C49DB29C@icloud.com>

Have you checked the scanner is actually in monochrome mode?
? 
Graeme Wall





> On 8 Sep 2018, at 14:08, Gary Critcher via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> <scan0008small.jpg>



From keithwicksuk at gmail.com  Sat Sep  8 10:07:38 2018
From: keithwicksuk at gmail.com (Keith Wicks)
Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2018 16:07:38 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] scanning B&W negs -- help!
In-Reply-To: <784800080.2266165.1536412103522@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <784800080.2266165.1536412103522.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
	<784800080.2266165.1536412103522@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CAA=qGJnzEUQH9DNh=5D0+BTWK_hozq3QUPdQiAEXEHzHfR4sLA@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Gary

The pix you attached are colour files containing R, G and B components. I
have used simple software to desaturate the images and then adjust their
brightness and contrast ? see attached. I don't know if that approach
solves your problems completely or not as I haven't seen the originals.

If you can't switch your scanning software from colour to B&W, you might
try VueScan, which provides numerous adjustments and works with most
scanners. A free download is available, and there is a PDF of the 177-page
VueScan Bible containing much general information about scanning.

Good luck

Keith

On 8 September 2018 at 14:08, Gary Critcher via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
wrote:

> lads I have a ton of negatives that need scanning for a book project I'm
> involved in, both colour and B&W.
>  I have no problem scanning colour negs and 35mm slides but when it comes
> to B&W I get just awful results, see attached.
>
>  In the past I have asked Ian Norman of this parish to scan stuff for me
> which he has done,  and has done an excellent job I must say, but I can't
> keep asking him to do them for me, especially as I have an all-singing,
> all-dancing scanner sitting not 12 inches away from me.
>  The examples you see here absolutely pale into insignificance compared to
> what Ian produces for me......
>   If anyone has any tips for me after looking at these latest examples, I
> would be very happy to hear it!
>
>   all the best for the weekend,
>  Gary C
>
> PS. going to e-mail Ian separately too in a few mins.
>
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From dave at davesound.co.uk  Sat Sep  8 10:20:39 2018
From: dave at davesound.co.uk (Dave Plowman)
Date: Sat, 08 Sep 2018 16:20:39 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] scanning B&W negs -- help!
In-Reply-To: <F339C40E-F4F4-4EC6-8BBE-7608C49DB29C@icloud.com>
References: <784800080.2266165.1536412103522.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
	<784800080.2266165.1536412103522@mail.yahoo.com>
	<F339C40E-F4F4-4EC6-8BBE-7608C49DB29C@icloud.com>
Message-ID: <5734605818dave@davesound.co.uk>

In article <F339C40E-F4F4-4EC6-8BBE-7608C49DB29C at icloud.com>,
   Graeme Wall via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> Have you checked the scanner is actually in monochrome mode?

Mine has several settings. B&W is for basic print. Needs to be set to
Greyscale for things like B&W photos.

But do wonder if a basic scanner has enough pixels for a small neg? There
used to be add on optical units which produced a larger image to the
actual scanner.

-- 
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    Dave Plowman     dave at davesound.co.uk     London SW 12
    


From waresound at msn.com  Sat Sep  8 12:36:08 2018
From: waresound at msn.com (Nick Ware)
Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2018 17:36:08 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] scanning B&W negs -- help!
In-Reply-To: <5734605818dave@davesound.co.uk>
References: <784800080.2266165.1536412103522.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
	<784800080.2266165.1536412103522@mail.yahoo.com>
	<F339C40E-F4F4-4EC6-8BBE-7608C49DB29C@icloud.com>,
	<5734605818dave@davesound.co.uk>
Message-ID: <VI1P192MB0271176F2AD7F206305B6C97A7070@VI1P192MB0271.EURP192.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>

I have a dedicated 35mm scanner that does pos and neg, B&W and colour in high resolution, plus the software that goes with it. I think Bob Foley has it on extended loan at the moment. I?ll check with him. I say I think he has it because I have a vague recollection of someone else wanting to borrow it, and I can?t remember who! Anyone here??
When located, anyone else who would like to borrow it is more than welcome.

A problem I have is a large number of 2 1/4 sq negs and trannys. If anyone has a high res scanner for that I?d love to know.
I?ve never found an A4 size scanner much cop for anything more than barely adequate use, because for negs and trannys it ideally needs to be transmissive rather than reflective.
Cheers,
Nick.

Sent from my iPad

On 8 Sep 2018, at 17:30, Dave Plowman via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk<mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>> wrote:

In article <F339C40E-F4F4-4EC6-8BBE-7608C49DB29C at icloud.com<mailto:F339C40E-F4F4-4EC6-8BBE-7608C49DB29C at icloud.com>>,
  Graeme Wall via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk<mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>> wrote:
Have you checked the scanner is actually in monochrome mode?

Mine has several settings. B&W is for basic print. Needs to be set to
Greyscale for things like B&W photos.

But do wonder if a basic scanner has enough pixels for a small neg? There
used to be add on optical units which produced a larger image to the
actual scanner.

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From graeme.wall at icloud.com  Sat Sep  8 12:54:05 2018
From: graeme.wall at icloud.com (Graeme Wall)
Date: Sat, 08 Sep 2018 18:54:05 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] scanning B&W negs -- help!
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I?ve got an Epson flatbed that does a reasonable job of large negs.  I?ve got some of my grandfather?s negatives that are 2.75 x 1.75 inches and it copes with those.  Not sure what camera used that type of film!
? 
Graeme Wall





> On 8 Sep 2018, at 18:36, Nick Ware via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> I have a dedicated 35mm scanner that does pos and neg, B&W and colour in high resolution, plus the software that goes with it. I think Bob Foley has it on extended loan at the moment. I?ll check with him. I say I think he has it because I have a vague recollection of someone else wanting to borrow it, and I can?t remember who! Anyone here??
> When located, anyone else who would like to borrow it is more than welcome.
> 
> A problem I have is a large number of 2 1/4 sq negs and trannys. If anyone has a high res scanner for that I?d love to know.
> I?ve never found an A4 size scanner much cop for anything more than barely adequate use, because for negs and trannys it ideally needs to be transmissive rather than reflective.
> Cheers,
> Nick.
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> On 8 Sep 2018, at 17:30, Dave Plowman via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
>> In article <F339C40E-F4F4-4EC6-8BBE-7608C49DB29C at icloud.com>,
>>   Graeme Wall via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
>>> Have you checked the scanner is actually in monochrome mode?
>> 
>> Mine has several settings. B&W is for basic print. Needs to be set to
>> Greyscale for things like B&W photos.
>> 
>> But do wonder if a basic scanner has enough pixels for a small neg? There
>> used to be add on optical units which produced a larger image to the
>> actual scanner.
>> 
>> -- 
>> *Just give me chocolate and nobody gets hurt
>> 
>>    Dave Plowman     dave at davesound.co.uk     London SW 12
>> 
>> 
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From saranewman at hotmail.com  Sat Sep  8 17:08:11 2018
From: saranewman at hotmail.com (Sara Newman)
Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2018 22:08:11 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] scanning B&W negs -- help!
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Hi,

I have the epson scanner 550 which is very good for odd shaped stuff. It has different setting and modes. I the previous model but the software did not keep up with my apple. I use apple soft ware to titivate the final product I also have a daguerreotype which came up really well considering how old it is 1840 See enclosed Sara

[cid:63CAEB68-8456-43CC-9823-C9F049102CE5 at home]
On 8 Sep 2018, at 18:54, Graeme Wall via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk<mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>> wrote:

I?ve got an Epson flatbed that does a reasonable job of large negs.  I?ve got some of my grandfather?s negatives that are 2.75 x 1.75 inches and it copes with those.  Not sure what camera used that type of film!
?
Graeme Wall





On 8 Sep 2018, at 18:36, Nick Ware via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk<mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>> wrote:

I have a dedicated 35mm scanner that does pos and neg, B&W and colour in high resolution, plus the software that goes with it. I think Bob Foley has it on extended loan at the moment. I?ll check with him. I say I think he has it because I have a vague recollection of someone else wanting to borrow it, and I can?t remember who! Anyone here??
When located, anyone else who would like to borrow it is more than welcome.

A problem I have is a large number of 2 1/4 sq negs and trannys. If anyone has a high res scanner for that I?d love to know.
I?ve never found an A4 size scanner much cop for anything more than barely adequate use, because for negs and trannys it ideally needs to be transmissive rather than reflective.
Cheers,
Nick.

Sent from my iPad

On 8 Sep 2018, at 17:30, Dave Plowman via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk<mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>> wrote:

In article <F339C40E-F4F4-4EC6-8BBE-7608C49DB29C at icloud.com<mailto:F339C40E-F4F4-4EC6-8BBE-7608C49DB29C at icloud.com>>,
 Graeme Wall via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk<mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>> wrote:
Have you checked the scanner is actually in monochrome mode?

Mine has several settings. B&W is for basic print. Needs to be set to
Greyscale for things like B&W photos.

But do wonder if a basic scanner has enough pixels for a small neg? There
used to be add on optical units which produced a larger image to the
actual scanner.

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*Just give me chocolate and nobody gets hurt

  Dave Plowman     dave at davesound.co.uk<mailto:dave at davesound.co.uk>     London SW 12


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From graeme.wall at icloud.com  Sun Sep  9 01:50:02 2018
From: graeme.wall at icloud.com (Graeme Wall)
Date: Sun, 09 Sep 2018 07:50:02 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] scanning B&W negs -- help!
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I?ve the same scanner, not tried a daguerrotype yet, my wife has a few but I?m nervous about handling them.

? 
Graeme Wall





> On 8 Sep 2018, at 23:08, Sara Newman <saranewman at hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi, 
> 
> I have the epson scanner 550 which is very good for odd shaped stuff. It has different setting and modes. I the previous model but the software did not keep up with my apple. I use apple soft ware to titivate the final product I also have a daguerreotype which came up really well considering how old it is 1840 See enclosed Sara
> 
> <fullsizeoutput_62a2.jpeg>
>> On 8 Sep 2018, at 18:54, Graeme Wall via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
>> 
>> I?ve got an Epson flatbed that does a reasonable job of large negs.  I?ve got some of my grandfather?s negatives that are 2.75 x 1.75 inches and it copes with those.  Not sure what camera used that type of film!
>> ? 
>> Graeme Wall
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 8 Sep 2018, at 18:36, Nick Ware via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have a dedicated 35mm scanner that does pos and neg, B&W and colour in high resolution, plus the software that goes with it. I think Bob Foley has it on extended loan at the moment. I?ll check with him. I say I think he has it because I have a vague recollection of someone else wanting to borrow it, and I can?t remember who! Anyone here??
>>> When located, anyone else who would like to borrow it is more than welcome.
>>> 
>>> A problem I have is a large number of 2 1/4 sq negs and trannys. If anyone has a high res scanner for that I?d love to know.
>>> I?ve never found an A4 size scanner much cop for anything more than barely adequate use, because for negs and trannys it ideally needs to be transmissive rather than reflective.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Nick.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
>>> On 8 Sep 2018, at 17:30, Dave Plowman via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> In article <F339C40E-F4F4-4EC6-8BBE-7608C49DB29C at icloud.com>,
>>>>  Graeme Wall via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>> Have you checked the scanner is actually in monochrome mode?
>>>> 
>>>> Mine has several settings. B&W is for basic print. Needs to be set to
>>>> Greyscale for things like B&W photos.
>>>> 
>>>> But do wonder if a basic scanner has enough pixels for a small neg? There
>>>> used to be add on optical units which produced a larger image to the
>>>> actual scanner.
>>>> 
>>>> -- 
>>>> *Just give me chocolate and nobody gets hurt
>>>> 
>>>>   Dave Plowman     dave at davesound.co.uk     London SW 12
>>>> 
>>>> 
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From geoffletch at gmail.com  Sun Sep  9 03:24:59 2018
From: geoffletch at gmail.com (Geoff Fletcher)
Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2018 09:24:59 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] scanning B&W negs -- help!
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I use anEpson flatbed to scan all my images. It copes with anything that
will fit up to A4 size including colour pos, colour neg and monochrome negs
plus colour and monochrome prints I produced tiff files but I can change
them to jpg as required. Settings are as above plus black and white for
text stuff orcdrawings etc. I tried scanning a couple of monochrome negs
with itcsetvto colour with very similar results to your examples, so I
think that might be the problem. I generally scan at  3500 pixels setting
for 35mm frames but use a lesser setting for prints and other negs
depending on size otherwise the files get too big.
Geoff F

On Sun, 9 Sep 2018 at 07:50, Graeme Wall via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
wrote:

> I?ve the same scanner, not tried a daguerrotype yet, my wife has a few but
> I?m nervous about handling them.
>
> ?
> Graeme Wall
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 8 Sep 2018, at 23:08, Sara Newman <saranewman at hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I have the epson scanner 550 which is very good for odd shaped stuff. It
> has different setting and modes. I the previous model but the software did
> not keep up with my apple. I use apple soft ware to titivate the final
> product I also have a daguerreotype which came up really well considering
> how old it is 1840 See enclosed Sara
> >
> > <fullsizeoutput_62a2.jpeg>
> >> On 8 Sep 2018, at 18:54, Graeme Wall via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> I?ve got an Epson flatbed that does a reasonable job of large negs.
> I?ve got some of my grandfather?s negatives that are 2.75 x 1.75 inches and
> it copes with those.  Not sure what camera used that type of film!
> >> ?
> >> Graeme Wall
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> On 8 Sep 2018, at 18:36, Nick Ware via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I have a dedicated 35mm scanner that does pos and neg, B&W and colour
> in high resolution, plus the software that goes with it. I think Bob Foley
> has it on extended loan at the moment. I?ll check with him. I say I think
> he has it because I have a vague recollection of someone else wanting to
> borrow it, and I can?t remember who! Anyone here??
> >>> When located, anyone else who would like to borrow it is more than
> welcome.
> >>>
> >>> A problem I have is a large number of 2 1/4 sq negs and trannys. If
> anyone has a high res scanner for that I?d love to know.
> >>> I?ve never found an A4 size scanner much cop for anything more than
> barely adequate use, because for negs and trannys it ideally needs to be
> transmissive rather than reflective.
> >>> Cheers,
> >>> Nick.
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPad
> >>>
> >>> On 8 Sep 2018, at 17:30, Dave Plowman via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> In article <F339C40E-F4F4-4EC6-8BBE-7608C49DB29C at icloud.com>,
> >>>>  Graeme Wall via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> >>>>> Have you checked the scanner is actually in monochrome mode?
> >>>>
> >>>> Mine has several settings. B&W is for basic print. Needs to be set to
> >>>> Greyscale for things like B&W photos.
> >>>>
> >>>> But do wonder if a basic scanner has enough pixels for a small neg?
> There
> >>>> used to be add on optical units which produced a larger image to the
> >>>> actual scanner.
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> *Just give me chocolate and nobody gets hurt
> >>>>
> >>>>   Dave Plowman     dave at davesound.co.uk     London SW 12
> >>>>
> >>>>
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From keithwicksuk at gmail.com  Sun Sep  9 04:44:23 2018
From: keithwicksuk at gmail.com (Keith Wicks)
Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2018 10:44:23 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Fwd:  scanning B&W negs -- help!
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(I originally sent this by clicking on "Reply to all" but, for some reason,
that did not include the mailing list. I'm used to not seeing my
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now.) KW

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From: Keith Wicks <keithwicksuk at gmail.com>
Date: 8 September 2018 at 16:07
Subject: Re: [Tech1] scanning B&W negs -- help!
To: Gary Critcher <gary_critcher at yahoo.com>
Cc: "dave.mdv via Tech1" <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>


Hello Gary

The pix you attached are colour files containing R, G and B components. I
have used simple software to desaturate the images and then adjust their
brightness and contrast ? see attached. I don't know if that approach
solves your problems completely or not as I haven't seen the originals.

If you can't switch your scanning software from colour to B&W, you might
try VueScan, which provides numerous adjustments and works with most
scanners. A free download is available, and there is a PDF of the 177-page
VueScan Bible containing much general information about scanning.

Good luck

Keith

On 8 September 2018 at 14:08, Gary Critcher via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
wrote:

> lads I have a ton of negatives that need scanning for a book project I'm
> involved in, both colour and B&W.
>  I have no problem scanning colour negs and 35mm slides but when it comes
> to B&W I get just awful results, see attached.
>
>  In the past I have asked Ian Norman of this parish to scan stuff for me
> which he has done,  and has done an excellent job I must say, but I can't
> keep asking him to do them for me, especially as I have an all-singing,
> all-dancing scanner sitting not 12 inches away from me.
>  The examples you see here absolutely pale into insignificance compared to
> what Ian produces for me......
>   If anyone has any tips for me after looking at these latest examples, I
> would be very happy to hear it!
>
>   all the best for the weekend,
>  Gary C
>
> PS. going to e-mail Ian separately too in a few mins.
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From jpn at imixmics.co.uk  Mon Sep 10 11:42:51 2018
From: jpn at imixmics.co.uk (John Nottage)
Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2018 17:42:51 +0100 (BST)
Subject: [Tech1] One Less Rat!
Message-ID: <1826202196.132507.1536597771055@email.1and1.co.uk>

After several months of sitting uselessly in the garden, my expensive rat zapper today, at last, claimed it's first victim! It was quick & (fairly) clean. Whether another one will venture where the first went remains to be seen, but there is certainly now one less rat in my garden. Because there was no poison involved, I had no qualms about throwing the corpse in the bushes on The Common where something can eat it. I call it recycling.

John


From gary_critcher at yahoo.com  Tue Sep 11 02:55:11 2018
From: gary_critcher at yahoo.com (Gary Critcher)
Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2018 07:55:11 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Tech1] Fwd:  scanning B&W negs -- help!
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Morning all, ? very many thanks indeed for all your comments and tips in regard my scanning/scanner B+W negs.
? I have now had a play with my scans inside Photoshop and found a fix, for those interested I went to 'enhance' then down into 'adjust colour' ?then clicked on 'remove colour' and voila, it looks ok to me!?I'm going to run it past my book designer guy to make sure they are to print.
?thanks again everyoneall the best,? ?Gary 

    On Sunday, 9 September 2018, 10:45, Keith Wicks via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
 

 (I originally sent this by clicking on "Reply to all" but, for some reason, that did not include the mailing list. I'm used to not seeing my contributions on the list, so I didn't realise what had happened until now.) KW
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Keith Wicks <keithwicksuk at gmail.com>
Date: 8 September 2018 at 16:07
Subject: Re: [Tech1] scanning B&W negs -- help!
To: Gary Critcher <gary_critcher at yahoo.com>
Cc: "dave.mdv via Tech1" <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>


Hello Gary
The pix you attached are colour files containing R, G and B components. I have used simple software to desaturate the images and then adjust their brightness and contrast ? see attached. I don't know if that approach solves your problems completely or not as I haven't seen the originals.
If you can't switch your scanning software from colour to B&W, you might try VueScan, which provides numerous adjustments and works with most scanners. A free download is available, and there is a PDF of the 177-page VueScan Bible containing much general information about scanning.
Good luck
Keith
On 8 September 2018 at 14:08, Gary Critcher via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:

lads I have a ton of negatives that need scanning for a book project I'm involved in, both colour and B&W.?I have no problem scanning colour negs and 35mm slides but when it comes to B&W I get just awful results, see attached.
?In the past I have asked Ian Norman of this parish to scan stuff for me which he has done, ?and has done an excellent job I must say, but I can't keep asking him to do them for me, especially as I have an all-singing, all-dancing scanner sitting not 12 inches away from me.?The examples you see here absolutely pale into insignificance compared to what Ian produces for me......? If anyone has any tips for me after looking at these latest examples, I would be very happy to hear it!
? all the best for the weekend,?Gary C
PS. going to e-mail Ian separately too in a few mins.

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From graeme.wall at icloud.com  Tue Sep 11 03:02:00 2018
From: graeme.wall at icloud.com (Graeme Wall)
Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2018 09:02:00 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Fwd:  scanning B&W negs -- help!
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In the Enhance menu there should be an option to convert to black and white, (last on the list) this leads to a submenu that alters the gamma for various effects, may be useful to you.

? 
Graeme Wall





> On 11 Sep 2018, at 08:55, Gary Critcher via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> Morning all,   very many thanks indeed for all your comments and tips in regard my scanning/scanner B+W negs.
> 
>   I have now had a play with my scans inside Photoshop and found a fix, for those interested I went to 'enhance' then down into 'adjust colour'  then clicked on 'remove colour' and voila, it looks ok to me!
>  I'm going to run it past my book designer guy to make sure they are to print.
> 
>  thanks again everyone
> all the best,
>    Gary
> 
> 
> On Sunday, 9 September 2018, 10:45, Keith Wicks via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> 
> (I originally sent this by clicking on "Reply to all" but, for some reason, that did not include the mailing list. I'm used to not seeing my contributions on the list, so I didn't realise what had happened until now.) KW
> 
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Keith Wicks <keithwicksuk at gmail.com>
> Date: 8 September 2018 at 16:07
> Subject: Re: [Tech1] scanning B&W negs -- help!
> To: Gary Critcher <gary_critcher at yahoo.com>
> Cc: "dave.mdv via Tech1" <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
> 
> 
> Hello Gary
> 
> The pix you attached are colour files containing R, G and B components. I have used simple software to desaturate the images and then adjust their brightness and contrast ? see attached. I don't know if that approach solves your problems completely or not as I haven't seen the originals.
> 
> If you can't switch your scanning software from colour to B&W, you might try VueScan, which provides numerous adjustments and works with most scanners. A free download is available, and there is a PDF of the 177-page VueScan Bible containing much general information about scanning.
> 
> Good luck
> 
> Keith
> 
> On 8 September 2018 at 14:08, Gary Critcher via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> lads I have a ton of negatives that need scanning for a book project I'm involved in, both colour and B&W.
>  I have no problem scanning colour negs and 35mm slides but when it comes to B&W I get just awful results, see attached.
> 
>  In the past I have asked Ian Norman of this parish to scan stuff for me which he has done,  and has done an excellent job I must say, but I can't keep asking him to do them for me, especially as I have an all-singing, all-dancing scanner sitting not 12 inches away from me.
>  The examples you see here absolutely pale into insignificance compared to what Ian produces for me......
>   If anyone has any tips for me after looking at these latest examples, I would be very happy to hear it!
> 
>   all the best for the weekend,
>  Gary C
> 
> PS. going to e-mail Ian separately too in a few mins.
> 
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From bernie833 at gmail.com  Tue Sep 11 07:28:43 2018
From: bernie833 at gmail.com (Bernard Newnham)
Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2018 13:28:43 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] [Announce] Yesterday
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Or the Imperial War Museum

On Tue, 11 Sep 2018, 13:14 Geoffrey Hawkes, <geoffreyhawkes at btinternet.com>
wrote:

> So it's off to Bovinton then, unless anyone has one in their back yard. At
> least we might get Peter Booth included in that one as it would be handy
> for him,
> Geoff
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On 11 Sep 2018, at 11:58, ROGER BUNCE via Announce <
> announce at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
>
> Fantastic. So, we now have a group shot of old Techies in front of a
> Spitfire, and a group shot in front of HMS Belfast. We just need a group
> shot in front of a tank, and we'll have all three services covered!
>
> luv, Rog.
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Bernard Newnham via Announce <announce at tech-ops.co.uk>
> *To:* TechOps Announce <announce at tech-ops.co.uk>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 11 September 2018, 9:35
> *Subject:* [Announce] Yesterday
>
> An excellent Disorganised day out enjoyed by all. Caroline O'Neill has a
> better group shot, which I'll pass on to those there when I have it.
>
> Lower pics -
> Magnificent men in their flying machine - a Jet Provost (Dave Carter)
> Simulator time - I did get it on the runway, but it would have helped if
> she'd shown me the brakes. (Peter Fox)
>
> Next lunch in October, but anyone can Disorganise anything at any
> time......
>
> B
>
>
> <ajnikbgcionnfpmg.png>
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From crew13 at vincent68.plus.com  Tue Sep 11 07:30:46 2018
From: crew13 at vincent68.plus.com (John Vincent)
Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2018 13:30:46 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Garden Wildlife
Message-ID: <5617739D-5A2E-4767-BB29-CF11E68D8240@vincent68.plus.com>

Just spotted on our bird feeder.

We got rid of our large bird feeders. Squirrels and hooligan large birds were getting on our nerves. Our dog would chase the squirrels away but he got a bit over exited one day and bust his cruciate ligament. He's OK now after a 5 grand vet bill!

We put up thistle feeders and now have lots of goldfinches visiting and this little fella has managed to climb up about 6 feet and  get the seed out.

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From geoffreyhawkes at btinternet.com  Tue Sep 11 08:18:27 2018
From: geoffreyhawkes at btinternet.com (Geoffrey Hawkes)
Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2018 14:18:27 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Tanks
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After further thought I was going to suggest the Imperial War Museum too. It's worth a visit, though I found the Holocaust part of it rather harrowing and wouldn't want to look round that again, 
Geoff Hawkes

Sent from my iPad

> On 11 Sep 2018, at 13:28, Bernard Newnham <bernie833 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Or the Imperial War Museum
> 
>> On Tue, 11 Sep 2018, 13:14 Geoffrey Hawkes, <geoffreyhawkes at btinternet.com> wrote:
>> So it's off to Bovinton then, unless anyone has one in their back yard. At least we might get Peter Booth included in that one as it would be handy for him,
>> Geoff
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On 11 Sep 2018, at 11:58, ROGER BUNCE via Announce <announce at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Fantastic. So, we now have a group shot of old Techies in front of a Spitfire, and a group shot in front of HMS Belfast. We just need a group shot in front of a tank, and we'll have all three services covered!
>>> 
>>> luv, Rog.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: Bernard Newnham via Announce <announce at tech-ops.co.uk>
>>> To: TechOps Announce <announce at tech-ops.co.uk> 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, 11 September 2018, 9:35
>>> Subject: [Announce] Yesterday
>>> 
>>> An excellent Disorganised day out enjoyed by all. Caroline O'Neill has a better group shot, which I'll pass on to those there when I have it.
>>> 
>>> Lower pics -
>>> Magnificent men in their flying machine - a Jet Provost (Dave Carter)
>>> Simulator time - I did get it on the runway, but it would have helped if she'd shown me the brakes. (Peter Fox)
>>> 
>>> Next lunch in October, but anyone can Disorganise anything at any time...... 
>>> 
>>> B
>>> 
>>> 
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>>> 
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>>> 
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From patheigham at amps.net  Tue Sep 11 09:38:17 2018
From: patheigham at amps.net (patrickheigham)
Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2018 15:38:17 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Tanks
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Talking abouut tanks - a colleague who orginated at Aolian,
(Tim Blackham) became the chairman of AMPS (Association
of Motion Picture Sound), when he defected to the Film Industry
(as I did!)
He owned a tank!
Sadly he passed away a couple of years ago.

Pat

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Geoffrey Hawkes via Tech1 
  To: Bernard Newnham 
  Cc: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk 
  Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2018 2:18 PM
  Subject: Re: [Tech1] Tanks


  After further thought I was going to suggest the Imperial War Museum too. It's worth a visit, though I found the Holocaust part of it rather harrowing and wouldn't want to look round that again, 
  Geoff Hawkes

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From bernie833 at gmail.com  Tue Sep 11 09:50:23 2018
From: bernie833 at gmail.com (Bernard Newnham)
Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2018 15:50:23 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Yesterday's pictures.....
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.... taken by Caroline O'Neill, Dave Carter and Peter Fox, are here -

http://tech-ops.co.uk/next/hendon/

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From dave.mdv at btinternet.com  Wed Sep 12 02:13:51 2018
From: dave.mdv at btinternet.com (dave.mdv)
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2018 08:13:51 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] A request to the people of Sound
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I'm sure that Earnest was very grateful for that! Cheers, Dave.


From dave.mdv at btinternet.com  Wed Sep 12 16:55:47 2018
From: dave.mdv at btinternet.com (dave.mdv)
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2018 22:55:47 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Car insurance
Message-ID: <b663517b-2e56-ba6e-7791-286649cc54ef@btinternet.com>

We all have to have it by law but is it any use to you if you have an 
accident? My wife had an unfortunate collision recently caused by an 
unmarked police car switching on its bright blue flashing headlights as 
she was about to turn right between it and another car. I assume the 
other car slowed and moved over, as anyone would when seing the flashing 
blue lights in their rear view mirror, and so it hadn't passed the place 
where my wife was turning and they collided, my wife was totally 
distracted by the police car lights as was admitted by the police 
driver. My wife's car is 14 years old but has only done 48000 local 
miles. The insurance inspector has deemed it to be a 'total loss'! They 
value the car at ?1800 and the repairs to be ?2400, hence the total 
loss, grade 'N', the least serious of all damages. Today, I visited a 
Honda approved coachworks company who said that they could probably 
repair the car for ?1200! So is the insurance company is being ripped 
off? The car is absolutely essential to my wife's quality of life as 
public transport doesn't take her anywhere she needs to go. Since 
passing our driving tests in 1962 we must have paid several thousands of 
pounds into the insurance industry with little in return. The car is 
drivable (picture attached). I despair! My insurance was about to be 
increased by ?300 as my wife is on my policy as a named driver. She 
never drives my car and it was only just in case anything happened to me 
while we were away on holiday. I have taken her off my policy and my 
insurance has dropped ?300! She can drive my car with my permission, but 
only 3rd, party. Cheers, Dave
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From s.k.edwards at btinternet.com  Thu Sep 13 02:22:32 2018
From: s.k.edwards at btinternet.com (Steve Edwards)
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2018 08:22:32 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Car insurance
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Dave

I?ve had some fun with insurance companies over the years. I?ve also learnt that challenging them often pays off even if it involves a bit of time and patience especially when trying to deal with one of those call centre ?tick box? operatives. 
Following an accident (not our fault) they took our car way to be destroyed as it was deemed a write-off and would not give it us back as I wanted to repair it myself.  My only choice was to report them to the police for ?theft? as it was My car and it did not belong to any insurance company. Fortunately they transported the car all the way back from the approved dismantlers in Leeds (a 200 mile round trip) just before it was due to go into the crusher. All thanks to the typical call centre set up and the out of touch untrained staff. 

I understood you can take your car anywhere for repairs - not always made clear by insurance companies. 

It?s Your car so there?s nothing stopping you getting a few quotes for repairs. 
You car should not be Cat N if repairs are less than valuation. 

You may well be able to take the higher valuation cash in lieu of repairs and get the work done by anyone and keep the change, but you may get a Cat N stamp if you take that option. 
I think you may be better off with the Honda bodyshop as some of these larger insurance approved repair centres aren?t all they would have you believe when it comes to quality of their repair work - I have seen this for myself. 

....I bet you can buy a new headlight and a front wing a from Euro Car parts for a few hundred quid - the rest will be for repairing the bumper & repainting. 
Worth having your wheel alignment checked too. 

I?d be challenging your current insurer about the increased premium and be getting another quote elsewhere.

Steve

> On 12 Sep 2018, at 22:55, dave.mdv via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> We all have to have it by law but is it any use to you if you have an accident? My wife had an unfortunate collision recently caused by an unmarked police car switching on its bright blue flashing headlights as she was about to turn right between it and another car. I assume the other car slowed and moved over, as anyone would when seing the flashing blue lights in their rear view mirror, and so it hadn't passed the place where my wife was turning and they collided, my wife was totally distracted by the police car lights as was admitted by the police driver. My wife's car is 14 years old but has only done 48000 local miles. The insurance inspector has deemed it to be a 'total loss'! They value the car at ?1800 and the repairs to be ?2400, hence the total loss, grade 'N', the least serious of all damages. Today, I visited a Honda approved coachworks company who said that they could probably repair the car for ?1200! So is the insurance company is being ripped off? The car is absolutely essential to my wife's quality of life as public transport doesn't take her anywhere she needs to go. Since passing our driving tests in 1962 we must have paid several thousands of pounds into the insurance industry with little in return. The car is drivable (picture attached). I despair! My insurance was about to be increased by ?300 as my wife is on my policy as a named driver. She never drives my car and it was only just in case anything happened to me while we were away on holiday. I have taken her off my policy and my insurance has dropped ?300! She can drive my car with my permission, but only 3rd, party. Cheers, Dave
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From vernon.dyer at btinternet.com  Thu Sep 13 07:26:54 2018
From: vernon.dyer at btinternet.com (vernon.dyer)
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2018 13:26:54 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Car insurance
Message-ID: <5actbthplkbygo6yn5yih6te.1536841614725@email.android.com>

My daughter had her car written off for a similar minor shunt. She said she could hardly believe it, and so did her garage - they had already ordered the parts to repair it!?Just a thought - is this anything to do with scrappage schemes?Best wishes? .....? Vern
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.-------- Original message --------From: "dave.mdv via Tech1" <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> Date: 12/09/2018  22:55  (GMT+00:00) To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk Subject: [Tech1] Car insurance 
We all have to have it by law but is it any use to you if you have an 
accident? My wife had an unfortunate collision recently caused by an 
unmarked police car switching on its bright blue flashing headlights as 
she was about to turn right between it and another car. I assume the 
other car slowed and moved over, as anyone would when seing the flashing 
blue lights in their rear view mirror, and so it hadn't passed the place 
where my wife was turning and they collided, my wife was totally 
distracted by the police car lights as was admitted by the police 
driver. My wife's car is 14 years old but has only done 48000 local 
miles. The insurance inspector has deemed it to be a 'total loss'! They 
value the car at ?1800 and the repairs to be ?2400, hence the total 
loss, grade 'N', the least serious of all damages. Today, I visited a 
Honda approved coachworks company who said that they could probably 
repair the car for ?1200! So is the insurance company is being ripped 
off? The car is absolutely essential to my wife's quality of life as 
public transport doesn't take her anywhere she needs to go. Since 
passing our driving tests in 1962 we must have paid several thousands of 
pounds into the insurance industry with little in return. The car is 
drivable (picture attached). I despair! My insurance was about to be 
increased by ?300 as my wife is on my policy as a named driver. She 
never drives my car and it was only just in case anything happened to me 
while we were away on holiday. I have taken her off my policy and my 
insurance has dropped ?300! She can drive my car with my permission, but 
only 3rd, party. Cheers, Dave

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From peter.neill at icloud.com  Thu Sep 13 07:41:45 2018
From: peter.neill at icloud.com (Peter Neill)
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2018 14:41:45 +0200
Subject: [Tech1] Car insurance
In-Reply-To: <5actbthplkbygo6yn5yih6te.1536841614725@email.android.com>
References: <5actbthplkbygo6yn5yih6te.1536841614725@email.android.com>
Message-ID: <F6257233-E416-4ECC-AD2C-828A4EA81E7E@icloud.com>

I hate to think what would happen if I had a prang in my car now. 
It?s a 2008 Golf GTi which I bought ?secondhand? from a dealer in 2010. It has a 10 plate and had 147 miles on the clock

Eight years on, cosmetically it?s in near-perfect condition, is mechanically sound and runs as well as the day I got it. 

However it now has nearly 167,000 to its name and tomorrow is about to undertake the journey back home from the bottom of France. 

I wonder how they would value that if the worst happened. 

Sent from my iPhone. Apologies for typos and autocorruptions. 

> On 13 Sep 2018, at 14:26, vernon.dyer via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> My daughter had her car written off for a similar minor shunt. She said she could hardly believe it, and so did her garage - they had already ordered the parts to repair it! 
> Just a thought - is this anything to do with scrappage schemes?
> Best wishes  .....  Vern
> 
> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
> -------- Original message --------
> From: "dave.mdv via Tech1" <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
> Date: 12/09/2018 22:55 (GMT+00:00)
> To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
> Subject: [Tech1] Car insurance
> 
> We all have to have it by law but is it any use to you if you have an 
> accident? My wife had an unfortunate collision recently caused by an 
> unmarked police car switching on its bright blue flashing headlights as 
> she was about to turn right between it and another car. I assume the 
> other car slowed and moved over, as anyone would when seing the flashing 
> blue lights in their rear view mirror, and so it hadn't passed the place 
> where my wife was turning and they collided, my wife was totally 
> distracted by the police car lights as was admitted by the police 
> driver. My wife's car is 14 years old but has only done 48000 local 
> miles. The insurance inspector has deemed it to be a 'total loss'! They 
> value the car at ?1800 and the repairs to be ?2400, hence the total 
> loss, grade 'N', the least serious of all damages. Today, I visited a 
> Honda approved coachworks company who said that they could probably 
> repair the car for ?1200! So is the insurance company is being ripped 
> off? The car is absolutely essential to my wife's quality of life as 
> public transport doesn't take her anywhere she needs to go. Since 
> passing our driving tests in 1962 we must have paid several thousands of 
> pounds into the insurance industry with little in return. The car is 
> drivable (picture attached). I despair! My insurance was about to be 
> increased by ?300 as my wife is on my policy as a named driver. She 
> never drives my car and it was only just in case anything happened to me 
> while we were away on holiday. I have taken her off my policy and my 
> insurance has dropped ?300! She can drive my car with my permission, but 
> only 3rd, party. Cheers, Dave
> 
> -- 
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> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk
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From anthonybmillier at hotmail.com  Thu Sep 13 07:43:35 2018
From: anthonybmillier at hotmail.com (anthony millier)
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2018 12:43:35 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] foxes and lawns
Message-ID: <DB7PR01MB40435F313CB534404F6E622BBC1A0@DB7PR01MB4043.eurprd01.prod.exchangelabs.com>

Has anyone a reliable method of persuading a couple of foxes to try a neighbour's lawn for their digging exercises? I have been told that marking my boundary with male urine can be a deterrent, and so I am in the process of filling a large Nescafe screwtop jar with this liquid. any other ideas? Tony.


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From dave at davesound.co.uk  Thu Sep 13 09:24:55 2018
From: dave at davesound.co.uk (Dave Plowman)
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2018 15:24:55 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Car insurance
In-Reply-To: <F6257233-E416-4ECC-AD2C-828A4EA81E7E@icloud.com>
References: <F6257233-E416-4ECC-AD2C-828A4EA81E7E@icloud.com>
Message-ID: <5736ee6b90dave@davesound.co.uk>

My previous BMW saloon - old, but in very good nick, got a dent in the
rear door, when parked up, from a skip lorry manoeuvering. 

The door still worked in every way including the power window etc, so
purely cosmetic.

Insurance company wanted to write it off. Cost of a new door they said was
needed, plus all the labour of painting and fitting. Their view of what
this low miles car was worth very different to what I knew I'd have to pay
to replace it like for like, even without all the hassle of trying to find
one in that rare excellent condition. 

Eventually got to speak to their assessor and he agreed the dent could be
simply knocked out. Which including painting cost, about 1/3rd of their
original estimate, and when done was invisible.

Had they not played ball I'd have taken the money based on keeping the car
and fitted a used door which could be bought for about 80 quid, and even
in the correct colour, so a job I could DIY.

-- 
*When did my wild oats turn to prunes and all bran?

    Dave Plowman     dave at davesound.co.uk     London SW 12
    


From alec.bray.2 at gmail.com  Thu Sep 13 11:03:31 2018
From: alec.bray.2 at gmail.com (Alec Bray)
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2018 17:03:31 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] A three-part "Softly Softly" 1966-1967
Message-ID: <04944e83-34f3-60b9-7503-2662f0db061c@gmail.com>

Hi all

I am giving a talk to a U3A group about my (short) time at the BBC, and 
a s part of this, I am going through the opening sequence of "Softly 
Softly" - cue dots from Pres, cue TK,? and so on.

This got me thinking about a three-parter that we did, but the story - 
as I remember it? - is rather convoluted.? And it was unusual to have a 
multi-part "Softly Softly"

At this time, the "Softly Softly"s were live.? The crew that I was on 
did parts 1 and 3.? Part 2 was recorded using a different crew (!!)? 
(not typical, but look at the tx dates!) and done out-of-sequence before 
part 1? The trouble was that one of the actors, playing some sort of 
informant (and which was quite pivotal to the story) dried during the 
recording, and so there were edits.

As we rehearsed Part 1 later, we were told over talkback about this 
particular actor drying? (well, the actor could not be replaced as his 
part was already recorded(!)), so on the live Part 1, there was a a 
strategy: if the actor dried, Bob Keegan was to bluff and bluster over 
the problem.? And so it came to pass. Thankfully, not too catastrophically.

Series 2, Episode 8???? TX date: 21 Dec. 1966 *Barlow Was There: Part 1: 
Allegation <https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0704083/?ref_=ttep_ep8>*

Series 2, Episode 9??? TX date: ? 28 Dec. 1966 *Barlow Was There: Part 
2: Enquiry <https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0704084/?ref_=ttep_ep9>

*
Series 2, Episode 10? TX date: ? 4 Jan. 1967 *Barlow Was There: Part 3: 
Mischief <https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0704085/?ref_=ttep_ep10>*
**

Anyone else remember anything about this?? 'Twas a long time ago ...

-- 

Best Regards

Alec

Alec Bray

alec.bray.2 at gmail.com
mob:    07789 561 346
home:   0118 981 7502

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From dave.mdv at btinternet.com  Fri Sep 14 05:47:53 2018
From: dave.mdv at btinternet.com (dave.mdv)
Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2018 11:47:53 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Car insurance
In-Reply-To: <F6257233-E416-4ECC-AD2C-828A4EA81E7E@icloud.com>
References: <5actbthplkbygo6yn5yih6te.1536841614725@email.android.com>
	<F6257233-E416-4ECC-AD2C-828A4EA81E7E@icloud.com>
Message-ID: <5f718f0e-75f1-3fc8-c53e-99a516309a58@btinternet.com>

I hope you got home safely! Judging from my experience I don't think you 
would get anything for your car due to it's age and mileage - so just be 
careful with it! Cheers, Dave


From patheigham at amps.net  Fri Sep 14 06:27:28 2018
From: patheigham at amps.net (patrickheigham)
Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2018 12:27:28 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Car insurance
In-Reply-To: <b663517b-2e56-ba6e-7791-286649cc54ef@btinternet.com>
References: <b663517b-2e56-ba6e-7791-286649cc54ef@btinternet.com>
Message-ID: <1AF6C3A963B840389AFE3B65CA202D57@PATRICKSONY>

Interesting that the topic of car insurance has been raised.
I created accidental damage to mine, by trying to park
too close to a friend's wall in his rather tight back yard.
A nice series of scratches and a groove in the metalwork!
As it was estimated to be ?1500, put it through insurance.
The renewal invite came a few weeks later - they quoted
over ?1500, last year it was ?640!
Instant phone call to adjust some of the 'statement of facts'.
as they had it down as 'accident'. I stressed that the claim
involved 'accidental damage', caused by myself, no other
vehicle or driver involved.
She re-entered that description, and the new quote was ?634,
less than the previous year! (There were other 'facts' that were
blatantly wrong).
The good bit was that as it was BMW Insurance (Alliantz)
there was no argument putting it into an approved BMW
Bodyshop.
At the same time, as they had the car and the paint, I wanted
a couple of other dinks attended to, which was a separate
bill, and done very reasonably and an excellent job.
It's worth it to me to keep the car in good condition, although
I don't think I'll be changing it - it'll see me out (my previous one
was 18 years old and I got ?2K for it under the then scrappage
scheme. The dealer gave me another ?2,250 discount, so it
made it affordable, using the tax-free cash sum from my
selfemployed pension funds.
I was sorry to see the old one go, but there were things going
wrong - the air conditioner packed up and was beyond repair.
Plus the new replacement was so much advanced in engineering
and returned twice the mpg, and needs servicing only at two
year intervals.

Attached is a publicity bit from the BMW newsletter.

Best
Pat

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "dave.mdv via Tech1" <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
To: <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 10:55 PM
Subject: [Tech1] Car insurance


> We all have to have it by law but is it any use to you if you have an
> accident? My wife had an unfortunate collision recently caused by an
> unmarked police car switching on its bright blue flashing headlights as
> she was about to turn right between it and another car. I assume the
> other car slowed and moved over, as anyone would when seing the flashing
> blue lights in their rear view mirror, and so it hadn't passed the place
> where my wife was turning and they collided, my wife was totally
> distracted by the police car lights as was admitted by the police
> driver. My wife's car is 14 years old but has only done 48000 local
> miles. The insurance inspector has deemed it to be a 'total loss'! They
> value the car at ?1800 and the repairs to be ?2400, hence the total
> loss, grade 'N', the least serious of all damages. Today, I visited a
> Honda approved coachworks company who said that they could probably
> repair the car for ?1200! So is the insurance company is being ripped
> off? The car is absolutely essential to my wife's quality of life as
> public transport doesn't take her anywhere she needs to go. Since
> passing our driving tests in 1962 we must have paid several thousands of
> pounds into the insurance industry with little in return. The car is
> drivable (picture attached). I despair! My insurance was about to be
> increased by ?300 as my wife is on my policy as a named driver. She
> never drives my car and it was only just in case anything happened to me
> while we were away on holiday. I have taken her off my policy and my
> insurance has dropped ?300! She can drive my car with my permission, but
> only 3rd, party. Cheers, Dave
>

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From rogerbunce at btinternet.com  Fri Sep 14 11:47:16 2018
From: rogerbunce at btinternet.com (ROGER BUNCE)
Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2018 16:47:16 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Tech1] A three-part "Softly Softly" 1966-1967
References: <2054660356.8300535.1536943636386.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <2054660356.8300535.1536943636386@mail.yahoo.com>

I never worked on 'Softly, Softly', but you've reminded me of an?incident which occurred on an episode of 'Vendetta' (1966). It starred Italian actor Stelio Candelli as Danny Scipio. One week, he was taken ill, and was unable to make the studio recording (I think he had some sort of breakdown). But he had already appeared in all the pre-recorded film inserts. The series had taken on Neil McCallum as a secondary hero (probably because they needed someone who spoke more comprehensible English!) So, Neil heroically learned all of Stelio's lines and took over his studio scenes for him. But, every time, just before they cut to film, they had to add an unconvincing piece of dialogue, saying something like, "I won't go to interview her myself. I'll send my friend Danny Scipio to do it."
To think of the rubbish we got away with! (sort of)
Years and years later, my wife and I were watching an episode of "Taggart", in the days when Mark McManus was still playing Jim Taggart. I suddenly noticed that an unfamiliar policeman was taking over some of the scenes in which you would have expected Taggart to take the lead. Remembering 'Vendetta', I said to my wife, "Mark McManus has been taken ill." I was proved right. He died shorty afterwards.
And David Carter will recall the script changes caused by another fatality in 1997. We were doing one of our VR pilots, destined to go live at IBC in Amsterdam. The pre-recorded scenes were set in the office of a mad psychiatrist. A running gag was that the phone would ring and the psychiatrist would say soothing things to an evidently neurotic woman on the other end. We never saw or heard this woman, but he addressed her as "Diana" or "Your Highness". (Could have been almost anyone, really!) Having completed all these bits, we were about to launch into our live extravaganza, when there was this car crash in Paris. . . Some hasty overdubbing was required.
luv, Rog.


   From: Alec Bray via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
 To: Tech Ops <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> 
 Sent: Thursday, 13 September 2018, 17:04
 Subject: [Tech1] A three-part "Softly Softly" 1966-1967
  
  Hi all I am giving a talk to a U3A group about my (short) time at the BBC, and a s part of this, I am going through the opening sequence of "Softly Softly" - cue dots from Pres, cue TK,? and so on. This got me thinking about a three-parter that we did, but the story - as I remember it? - is rather convoluted.? And it was unusual to have a multi-part "Softly Softly"
  At this time, the "Softly Softly"s were live.? The crew that I was on did parts 1 and 3.? Part 2 was recorded using a different crew (!!)? (not typical, but look at the tx dates!) and done out-of-sequence before part 1? The trouble was that one of the actors, playing some sort of informant (and which was quite pivotal to the story) dried during the recording, and so there were edits.? 
  As we rehearsed Part 1 later, we were told over talkback about this particular actor drying? (well, the actor could not be replaced as his part was already recorded(!)), so on the live Part 1, there was a a strategy: if the actor dried, Bob Keegan was to  bluff and bluster over the problem.? And so it came to pass.? Thankfully, not too catastrophically.
  Series 2, Episode 8???? TX date: 21 Dec. 1966 ? ? Barlow Was There: Part 1: Allegation 
 Series 2, Episode 9??? TX date: ? 28 Dec. 1966??? Barlow Was There: Part 2: Enquiry
 
  Series 2, Episode 10? TX date: ? 4 Jan. 1967 ?? ? Barlow Was There: Part 3: Mischief
   Anyone else remember anything about this?? 'Twas a long time ago ...
  -- 

Best Regards

Alec

Alec Bray

alec.bray.2 at gmail.com
mob:    07789 561 346
home:   0118 981 7502 -- 
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From patheigham at amps.net  Fri Sep 14 12:44:57 2018
From: patheigham at amps.net (patrickheigham)
Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2018 18:44:57 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] A three-part "Softly Softly" 1966-1967
In-Reply-To: <2054660356.8300535.1536943636386@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <2054660356.8300535.1536943636386.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
	<2054660356.8300535.1536943636386@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <8C43F65A9EAF401FBC863B86D70F4BF5@PATRICKSONY>

Not to mention Ridley Scott's use of a CGI'd Oliver Reed
who died before Gladiator was completed!

Perhaps real actors are not needed anymore?

I recall that when front projection was invented, there
was a panic that film crews would lose out on foreign
locations, as it could then be done all in the studio.
Luckily, this didn't catch on!

Pat
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: ROGER BUNCE via Tech1 
  To: Tech Ops 
  Sent: Friday, September 14, 2018 5:47 PM
  Subject: Re: [Tech1] A three-part "Softly Softly" 1966-1967


  I never worked on 'Softly, Softly', but you've reminded me of an incident which occurred on an episode of 'Vendetta' (1966). It starred Italian actor Stelio Candelli as Danny Scipio. One week, he was taken ill, and was unable to make the studio recording (I think he had some sort of breakdown). But he had already appeared in all the pre-recorded film inserts. The series had taken on Neil McCallum as a secondary hero (probably because they needed someone who spoke more comprehensible English!) So, Neil heroically learned all of Stelio's lines and took over his studio scenes for him. But, every time, just before they cut to film, they had to add an unconvincing piece of dialogue, saying something like, "I won't go to interview her myself. I'll send my friend Danny Scipio to do it."


  To think of the rubbish we got away with! (sort of)


  Years and years later, my wife and I were watching an episode of "Taggart", in the days when Mark McManus was still playing Jim Taggart. I suddenly noticed that an unfamiliar policeman was taking over some of the scenes in which you would have expected Taggart to take the lead. Remembering 'Vendetta', I said to my wife, "Mark McManus has been taken ill." I was proved right. He died shorty afterwards.


  And David Carter will recall the script changes caused by another fatality in 1997. We were doing one of our VR pilots, destined to go live at IBC in Amsterdam. The pre-recorded scenes were set in the office of a mad psychiatrist. A running gag was that the phone would ring and the psychiatrist would say soothing things to an evidently neurotic woman on the other end. We never saw or heard this woman, but he addressed her as "Diana" or "Your Highness". (Could have been almost anyone, really!) Having completed all these bits, we were about to launch into our live extravaganza, when there was this car crash in Paris. . . Some hasty overdubbing was required.


  luv, Rog

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From tonynuttall at me.com  Sun Sep 16 04:42:28 2018
From: tonynuttall at me.com (William Nuttall)
Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2018 09:42:28 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [Tech1] =?utf-8?q?Fwd=3A_=5BI_Take_Pictures_Of_TV_Studios=5D_Thi?=
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References: <e750ccd2b99311e8994c248a078fd9f4-c37fa958@afcbbf0d4fe409998d77df34de7f8f0b55529c1a3235e617257ba6e0ea48c47c>
Message-ID: <bdc59414-065e-4ba0-a03e-de0ac3b206d2@me.com>

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From johnhcox at gmail.com  Mon Sep 17 06:46:53 2018
From: johnhcox at gmail.com (John Cox)
Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2018 12:46:53 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Arthur Reed and Radio Mics
Message-ID: <5b9f9433.1c69fb81.98a64.128f@mx.google.com>


  Last year 2017, I identified several people in a photograph taken at the entrance to Television Outside Broadcast?s London headquarters at Wembley. Among the cameramen was Arthur Reed.
  On the recently screened programme of Princess Margaret: the Rebel Royal, at 23 minutes in, Arthur is shown with another person rigging a camera for Her Majesty the Queen?s coronation in 1953. Also shown at 23 minutes is the cramped space of the racks operators who sat just below the producer, sound mixer and others.

 Later mention is made of the beautiful Chinese actress Jacqui Chan whom Anthony Armstrong Jones had known for some time. She appeared on television a lot in those days. Once I had the un enviable? task of fitting her with a big radio mic consisting of two packs, transmitter and battery about the size of twenty cigarettes each and wires with an aerial cable about two and a half feet long inside her leg stocking and a lavalier BK6B microphone on her chest!
    On another broadcast at Wembley Pool Ice Rink I had to fit the radio mic to the well known singer Iris Villiers. It was in the makeup room with mirrors all around. I was the only person allowed in there with miss Villiers. At the eleven o?clock refreshment break I went away, when I returned there was our big engineering manager trying to fit miss Villiers with the radio mic. We were not allowed to fit any royal person with a radio mic.

 Radio Microphones were big and difficult to use in those days, they needed a dedicated operator to make them work, the operation was on radio frequencies in the Band One spectrum 45 to 60megacycles (now megahertz). Government and technical restriction?s made them so. Because they were so difficult Television Centre gave up on them altogether. It took a complete day to make them work for Sir Gerald Kelly?s talk on Art at the Dulwich Art Gallery. It could be very tricky if a commentator refused to wear one I would then have to ask a higher authority to convince them. Nowadays it looks so easy, on a much higher frequency, with artist?s wearing little pink mic shields on their face that I wonder at the marvel of it all that WE must have made it happen!
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From waresound at msn.com  Mon Sep 17 08:31:12 2018
From: waresound at msn.com (Nick Ware)
Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2018 13:31:12 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Arthur Reed and Radio Mics
In-Reply-To: <5b9f9433.1c69fb81.98a64.128f@mx.google.com>
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I?m hoping that after Brexit we will again be allowed to use the term ?Cycles per Second?, and not some German geezer?s name that does nothing to tell you what it is.
Cycles per second - entirely logical
Hertz - well, if you didn?t know, you wouldn?t know!
Nick.
Sent from my iPad

On 17 Sep 2018, at 12:48, John Cox via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk<mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>> wrote:


 Last year 2017, I identified several people in a photograph taken at the entrance to Television Outside Broadcast?s London headquarters at Wembley. Among the cameramen was Arthur Reed.
  On the recently screened programme of Princess Margaret: the Rebel Royal, at 23 minutes in, Arthur is shown with another person rigging a camera for Her Majesty the Queen?s coronation in 1953. Also shown at 23 minutes is the cramped space of the racks operators who sat just below the producer, sound mixer and others.

Later mention is made of the beautiful Chinese actress Jacqui Chan whom Anthony Armstrong Jones had known for some time. She appeared on television a lot in those days. Once I had the un enviable? task of fitting her with a big radio mic consisting of two packs, transmitter and battery about the size of twenty cigarettes each and wires with an aerial cable about two and a half feet long inside her leg stocking and a lavalier BK6B microphone on her chest!
    On another broadcast at Wembley Pool Ice Rink I had to fit the radio mic to the well known singer Iris Villiers. It was in the makeup room with mirrors all around. I was the only person allowed in there with miss Villiers. At the eleven o?clock refreshment break I went away, when I returned there was our big engineering manager trying to fit miss Villiers with the radio mic. We were not allowed to fit any royal person with a radio mic.

Radio Microphones were big and difficult to use in those days, they needed a dedicated operator to make them work, the operation was on radio frequencies in the Band One spectrum 45 to 60megacycles (now megahertz). Government and technical restriction?s made them so. Because they were so difficult Television Centre gave up on them altogether. It took a complete day to make them work for Sir Gerald Kelly?s talk on Art at the Dulwich Art Gallery. It could be very tricky if a commentator refused to wear one I would then have to ask a higher authority to convince them. Nowadays it looks so easy, on a much higher frequency, with artist?s wearing little pink mic shields on their face that I wonder at the marvel of it all that WE must have made it happen!
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From chris at chriswoolf.co.uk  Mon Sep 17 09:59:24 2018
From: chris at chriswoolf.co.uk (Chris Woolf)
Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2018 15:59:24 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Arthur Reed and Radio Mics
In-Reply-To: <VI1P192MB0271972F27E7EBC9C48B60EFA71E0@VI1P192MB0271.EURP192.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
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On 17/09/2018 14:31, Nick Ware via Tech1 wrote:

I?m hoping that after Brexit we will again be allowed to use the term 
?Cycles per Second?, and not some German geezer?s name that does nothing 
to tell you what it is.

______________
M'dear!

Logically we would then have to give up on Ohms and go with "volts per 
amp" - oh no, wait a minute; Volta was Italian, and Mr Ampere was a 
Frog. We could try the reciprocal of conductivity ... except that that 
would give credence to Herr Siemens.

As a Brit, I suppose you would hang on to the Watt... even though that 
word doesn't mean a thing, but it is a bit easier than measuring the 
output of your HiFi in Horsepower. And you might apply the same 
jingoistic argument to the newton (after our thoroughly British Isaac), 
though that unit is applied to nasty Eurocentric kilograms and metres - 
but you might then argue that we should go back to pounds-force... or 
should that be foot-pounds? Or pounds-mass, or pounds-foot?

No, no! I don't care if the Syst?me Internationale d'Unit?s is "foreign" 
- at least it is something that is easy to use, and doesn't create the 
sort of confusion that allowed NASA to lose $125m of Mars Orbiter.

Chris Woolf



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From mikej at bmanor.co.uk  Mon Sep 17 10:06:35 2018
From: mikej at bmanor.co.uk (Mike Jordan)
Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2018 16:06:35 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Arthur Reed and Radio Mics
In-Reply-To: <5b9f9433.1c69fb81.98a64.128f@mx.google.com>
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The trouble nowadays with the headset mics is that they really ?stand out? and it is critical to position them right. The school students I often fit will insist on having the mic right next to the mouth and touching the face so every laugh/scowl gets heard
As I have said before, I also went to a school show where a pink mic was stuck to the kids forehead with cable over his parting and down the back. Problem? He was a black kid so very embarrassing.
Also now, folks like on gardinators world have a mic under a T-shirt/blouse ? looking like a nasty case of a rather large boil on their chest!

Mike

From: John Cox via Tech1 
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2018 12:46 PM
To: Tech Ops Forum 
Subject: [Tech1] Arthur Reed and Radio Mics
 

Radio Microphones were big and difficult to use in those days, they needed a dedicated operator to make them work, the operation was on radio frequencies in the Band One spectrum 45 to 60megacycles (now megahertz). Government and technical restriction?s made them so. Because they were so difficult Television Centre gave up on them altogether. It took a complete day to make them work for Sir Gerald Kelly?s talk on Art at the Dulwich Art Gallery. It could be very tricky if a commentator refused to wear one I would then have to ask a higher authority to convince them. Nowadays it looks so easy, on a much higher frequency, with artist?s wearing little pink mic shields on their face that I wonder at the marvel of it all that WE must have made it happen!



 
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From patheigham at amps.net  Mon Sep 17 11:16:10 2018
From: patheigham at amps.net (patrickheigham)
Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2018 17:16:10 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Arthur Reed and Radio Mics
In-Reply-To: <934142A583214DBFA84C4649A2730D2C@Gigabyte>
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I've been to see '42nd Street' eight times, now - a wizard show,
and very, very slick.
There are something in the region of 80+ radio mics in use.
How  the devil this is worked out for frequencies as there
is another theatre across the road which is also presenting
a musical production! And the six principals are dual miked.
Plus mics installed at calf height inside the tights to capture
the taps.
With a theatre show, it's possible to get away with the 'cheek'
mics as they are not that noticeable by the audience, but
not for close up cameras.
I remember the early r/m's that the BBC had in the 60's,
a huge transmitter the size of a hip flask,
with a battery connection that was dodgy at the best of times.
I had to rig Shani Wallis with one of these
beasts, and to preserve battery life, it was switched off until
needed. Just before she went onto set, I realised that I hadn't
turned it on, so shot to her side, and explained the problem.
Without either of us batting an eyelid, she hauled up her skirt,
as it was fitted to her inside thigh, for me to perform the
necessary tweak!
A similar situation occurred with a well-known agony aunt
presenter on a job for LWT - location the Nat. Hist. museum.
A very wide shot to include 'Dippy' dinosaur skeleton, so she
had to be radioed. As we retreated behind a display cabinet,
for the Tx to be installed on her thigh, she lifted her skirt,
telling me that she didn't wear pants! Nor did she!

Such is life!
Pat
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Mike Jordan via Tech1 
  To: John Cox ; Tech Ops Forum 
  Sent: Monday, September 17, 2018 4:06 PM
  Subject: Re: [Tech1] Arthur Reed and Radio Mics


  The trouble nowadays with the headset mics is that they really ?stand out? and it is critical to position them right. The school students I often fit will insist on having the mic right next to the mouth and touching the face so every laugh/scowl gets heard
  As I have said before, I also went to a school show where a pink mic was stuck to the kids forehead with cable over his parting and down the back. Problem? He was a black kid so very embarrassing.
  Also now, folks like on gardinators world have a mic under a T-shirt/blouse ? looking like a nasty case of a rather large boil on their chest!

  Mike
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From bernie833 at gmail.com  Mon Sep 17 11:32:48 2018
From: bernie833 at gmail.com (Bernard Newnham)
Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2018 17:32:48 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Arthur Reed and Radio Mics
In-Reply-To: <a8a6dd91-14ea-b96d-25aa-d09c335e7361@chriswoolf.co.uk>
References: <5b9f9433.1c69fb81.98a64.128f@mx.google.com>
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I agree with all that, but it I'd still have cycles per second

B

On Mon, 17 Sep 2018, 16:00 Chris Woolf via Tech1, <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
wrote:

> On 17/09/2018 14:31, Nick Ware via Tech1 wrote:
>
> I?m hoping that after Brexit we will again be allowed to use the term
> ?Cycles per Second?, and not some German geezer?s name that does nothing to
> tell you what it is.
>
> ______________
> M'dear!
>
> Logically we would then have to give up on Ohms and go with "volts per
> amp" - oh no, wait a minute; Volta was Italian, and Mr Ampere was a Frog.
> We could try the reciprocal of conductivity ... except that that would give
> credence to Herr Siemens.
>
> As a Brit, I suppose you would hang on to the Watt... even though that
> word doesn't mean a thing, but it is a bit easier than measuring the output
> of your HiFi in Horsepower. And you might apply the same jingoistic
> argument to the newton (after our thoroughly British Isaac), though that
> unit is applied to nasty Eurocentric kilograms and metres - but you might
> then argue that we should go back to pounds-force... or should that be
> foot-pounds? Or pounds-mass, or pounds-foot?
>
> No, no! I don't care if the Syst?me Internationale d'Unit?s is "foreign" -
> at least it is something that is easy to use, and doesn't create the sort
> of confusion that allowed NASA to lose $125m of Mars Orbiter.
>
> Chris Woolf
>
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From waresound at msn.com  Mon Sep 17 12:25:01 2018
From: waresound at msn.com (Nick Ware)
Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2018 17:25:01 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Arthur Reed and Radio Mics
In-Reply-To: <a8a6dd91-14ea-b96d-25aa-d09c335e7361@chriswoolf.co.uk>
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How wonderful, Chris. You took the Woolf bait!
(I still prefer cycles though)
Cheers,
Nick.

Sent from my iPad

On 17 Sep 2018, at 16:00, Chris Woolf via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk<mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>> wrote:

On 17/09/2018 14:31, Nick Ware via Tech1 wrote:
I?m hoping that after Brexit we will again be allowed to use the term ?Cycles per Second?, and not some German geezer?s name that does nothing to tell you what it is.
______________
M'dear!

Logically we would then have to give up on Ohms and go with "volts per amp" - oh no, wait a minute; Volta was Italian, and Mr Ampere was a Frog. We could try the reciprocal of conductivity ... except that that would give credence to Herr Siemens.

As a Brit, I suppose you would hang on to the Watt... even though that word doesn't mean a thing, but it is a bit easier than measuring the output of your HiFi in Horsepower. And you might apply the same jingoistic argument to the newton (after our thoroughly British Isaac), though that unit is applied to nasty Eurocentric kilograms and metres - but you might then argue that we should go back to pounds-force... or should that be foot-pounds? Or pounds-mass, or pounds-foot?

No, no! I don't care if the Syst?me Internationale d'Unit?s is "foreign" - at least it is something that is easy to use, and doesn't create the sort of confusion that allowed NASA to lose $125m of Mars Orbiter.

Chris Woolf

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From geoffreyhawkes at btinternet.com  Mon Sep 17 13:29:42 2018
From: geoffreyhawkes at btinternet.com (Geoffrey Hawkes)
Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2018 19:29:42 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Arthur Reed and Radio Mics
In-Reply-To: <19DDFC2004674D9296DAD836F582954B@PATRICKSONY>
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What with that and working on the famous much viewed Ripley undressing scene in Alien, you have many happy memories, don't you?
Geoff

Sent from my iPad

> On 17 Sep 2018, at 17:16, patrickheigham via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> I've been to see '42nd Street' eight times, now - a wizard show,
> and very, very slick.
> There are something in the region of 80+ radio mics in use.
> How  the devil this is worked out for frequencies as there
> is another theatre across the road which is also presenting
> a musical production! And the six principals are dual miked.
> Plus mics installed at calf height inside the tights to capture
> the taps.
> With a theatre show, it's possible to get away with the 'cheek'
> mics as they are not that noticeable by the audience, but
> not for close up cameras.
> I remember the early r/m's that the BBC had in the 60's,
> a huge transmitter the size of a hip flask,
> with a battery connection that was dodgy at the best of times.
> I had to rig Shani Wallis with one of these
> beasts, and to preserve battery life, it was switched off until
> needed. Just before she went onto set, I realised that I hadn't
> turned it on, so shot to her side, and explained the problem.
> Without either of us batting an eyelid, she hauled up her skirt,
> as it was fitted to her inside thigh, for me to perform the
> necessary tweak!
> A similar situation occurred with a well-known agony aunt
> presenter on a job for LWT - location the Nat. Hist. museum.
> A very wide shot to include 'Dippy' dinosaur skeleton, so she
> had to be radioed. As we retreated behind a display cabinet,
> for the Tx to be installed on her thigh, she lifted her skirt,
> telling me that she didn't wear pants! Nor did she!
>  
> Such is life!
> Pat
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Mike Jordan via Tech1
> To: John Cox ; Tech Ops Forum
> Sent: Monday, September 17, 2018 4:06 PM
> Subject: Re: [Tech1] Arthur Reed and Radio Mics
> 
> The trouble nowadays with the headset mics is that they really ?stand out? and it is critical to position them right. The school students I often fit will insist on having the mic right next to the mouth and touching the face so every laugh/scowl gets heard
> As I have said before, I also went to a school show where a pink mic was stuck to the kids forehead with cable over his parting and down the back. Problem? He was a black kid so very embarrassing.
> Also now, folks like on gardinators world have a mic under a T-shirt/blouse ? looking like a nasty case of a rather large boil on their chest!
>  
> Mike
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From patheigham at amps.net  Mon Sep 17 14:12:54 2018
From: patheigham at amps.net (patrickheigham)
Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2018 20:12:54 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Alien was Arthur Reed and Radio Mics
In-Reply-To: <4CB9DFC2-7CF5-4EA2-9AB8-01EB95B444FD@btinternet.com>
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'Alien' was actually rather boring to work on.

Normal boom operation was ruled out by the flight
deck having bits sticking up from the floor and
down from the ceiling, so we tried fixed mikes,
until Ridley altered the artistes' positions which
screwed the pick up, so forced into radios.
Once fitted, we twiddled our thumbs until a
battery change. The set was a composite and if not
really involved, we sat ouside and drank tea or coffee!
(Composite meaning that it all linked together, allowing
tracking shots throughout the ship).
Yes, Sigourney's panties were very small! But I don't
think that the Alien appreciated that!
(The actor playing the Alien was a Masai, who was
around 6'6" to 7' and a really pleasant nice guy!).
The helmet was controlled by SFX for the jaws and
biting bits, and buckets of KY jelly!

However it was 22 weeks of employment, and the film
was really built in the editing - Ridley wanted a twist
on the 'old dark house' routine and suceeded brilliantly.
I'm pleased that it became a 'cult' film.

'nother story:
The chest burster from John Hurt - only Ridley and the
SFX guys knew what should happen - the cast were 
kept in the dark as he wanted true reactions.
There were three cameras - a wide, and two others to
focus on reactions from the 'crew'.
Bob Penn, the stills man, asked me to take one of his
cameras as I was 'free' for the take, and he couldn't shoot
B/W and colour at the same time, and it was a one-off
shot.
So maybe my click was used for publicity - who knows!

As I had worked with John Hurt on 'The Naked Civil Servant'
he kindly signed my book as 'The Naked Civil Alien'!

Best
Pat



  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Geoffrey Hawkes 
  To: patrickheigham 
  Cc: Mike Jordan ; John Cox ; Tech Ops Forum 
  Sent: Monday, September 17, 2018 7:29 PM
  Subject: Re: [Tech1] Arthur Reed and Radio Mics


  What with that and working on the famous much viewed Ripley undressing scene in Alien, you have many happy memories, don't you?
  Geoff
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From waresound at msn.com  Mon Sep 17 15:25:41 2018
From: waresound at msn.com (Nick Ware)
Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2018 20:25:41 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Arthur Reed and Radio Mics
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Cringeworthy stuff. Putting radio mics on people is just a part of the job that the majority of us do in a professional manner, and don?t see as a perving opportunity. Moments of trust should be respected for what they are, then forgotten.
Nick.
Sent from my iPad

On 17 Sep 2018, at 19:30, Geoffrey Hawkes via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk<mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>> wrote:

What with that and working on the famous much viewed Ripley undressing scene in Alien, you have many happy memories, don't you?
Geoff

Sent from my iPad

On 17 Sep 2018, at 17:16, patrickheigham via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk<mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>> wrote:
[snip]
I remember the early r/m's that the BBC had in the 60's,
a huge transmitter the size of a hip flask,
with a battery connection that was dodgy at the best of times.
I had to rig Shani Wallis with one of these
beasts, and to preserve battery life, it was switched off until
needed. Just before she went onto set, I realised that I hadn't
turned it on, so shot to her side, and explained the problem.
Without either of us batting an eyelid, she hauled up her skirt,
as it was fitted to her inside thigh, for me to perform the
necessary tweak!
A similar situation occurred with a well-known agony aunt
presenter on a job for LWT - location the Nat. Hist. museum.
A very wide shot to include 'Dippy' dinosaur skeleton, so she
had to be radioed. As we retreated behind a display cabinet,
for the Tx to be installed on her thigh, she lifted her skirt,
telling me that she didn't wear pants! Nor did she!

Such is life!
Pat
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From dave.mdv at btinternet.com  Mon Sep 17 17:58:33 2018
From: dave.mdv at btinternet.com (dave.mdv)
Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2018 23:58:33 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Arthur Reed and Radio Mics
In-Reply-To: <VI1P192MB0271633456363F421EE5B665A71E0@VI1P192MB0271.EURP192.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
References: <5b9f9433.1c69fb81.98a64.128f@mx.google.com>
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Quite right, Nick. On one 'Talk of the Town' show I had to fit a Micron 
to the young Lena Zavaroni's thigh with the help of a male dresser. 
While checking that it was working OK I heard her ask her chaperone why 
we hadn't left the dressing room . The chaperone said to her 'they've 
seen it all in their line of work and think nothing of it!' The best (or 
worst!) radio mic. story happened at the TV Theatre when a new sound lad 
had to fit one on Esther Rantzen who lifted her skirts and said 'Help 
yourself!' Cheers, Dave.


From bernie833 at gmail.com  Tue Sep 18 03:44:13 2018
From: bernie833 at gmail.com (Bernard Newnham)
Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 09:44:13 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Arthur Reed and Radio Mics
In-Reply-To: <2828d8b0-aaf9-6b5b-a32c-17777135ed49@btinternet.com>
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Message-ID: <25b874b7-36a4-997a-9d3e-40667b275669@gmail.com>

And Su Pollard, who lifted up her skirt front to the sound man and said 
"I know what you want!"

B

On 17/09/2018 23:58, dave.mdv via Tech1 wrote:
> Quite right, Nick. On one 'Talk of the Town' show I had to fit a 
> Micron to the young Lena Zavaroni's thigh with the help of a male 
> dresser. While checking that it was working OK I heard her ask her 
> chaperone why we hadn't left the dressing room . The chaperone said to 
> her 'they've seen it all in their line of work and think nothing of 
> it!' The best (or worst!) radio mic. story happened at the TV Theatre 
> when a new sound lad had to fit one on Esther Rantzen who lifted her 
> skirts and said 'Help yourself!' Cheers, Dave.
>

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From robin.sutherland at ukgateway.net  Tue Sep 18 05:50:34 2018
From: robin.sutherland at ukgateway.net (Robin Sutherland)
Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 11:50:34 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Wideband TV Aerial
Message-ID: <7D9F2B38-FEFB-47B1-AA72-3D0BE78CBB48@ukgateway.net>

I bought a new wideband Labgear TV aerial a couple of years ago with the intention of replacing an ancient one on the roof. I never got around to doing it as the old one still seemed ok until the dreaded Freeview retune a few months ago.

As I reported on the forum I lost channels but Freeview replaced my old aerial at no cost and I have my missing channels back.

So I now have a brand new aerial surplus to requirements and I wondered if anyone out there could use it. Free on collection [Hampton south west London].

Cheers

Robin Sutherland

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From dave.mdv at btinternet.com  Tue Sep 18 05:51:55 2018
From: dave.mdv at btinternet.com (dave.mdv)
Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 11:51:55 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Arthur Reed and Radio Mics
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... and also the lovely Sue Lawley when I had to use narrow PVC tape to 
fasten a Micron in the small of her back, under a skin-tight dress, and 
she was only wearing panti-hose. Phew! Cheers, Dave.


From dave at davesound.co.uk  Tue Sep 18 08:27:06 2018
From: dave at davesound.co.uk (Dave Plowman)
Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 14:27:06 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Arthur Reed and Radio Mics
In-Reply-To: <VI1P192MB0271633456363F421EE5B665A71E0@VI1P192MB0271.EURP192.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
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Message-ID: <57397c4dfadave@davesound.co.uk>

In article
<VI1P192MB0271633456363F421EE5B665A71E0 at VI1P192MB0271.EURP192.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>,
   Nick Ware via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> Cringeworthy stuff. Putting radio mics on people is just a part of the
> job that the majority of us do in a professional manner, and don?t see
> as a perving opportunity. Moments of trust should be respected for what
> they are, then forgotten.

After being forced into being a freelance, and with the principle that any
work was better than none, I took a floor job on the first series of Pop
Idol. The only sound floor person. And with costume people I didn't know.
All the contestants had to have radio mics for the interviews etc done
separately from the performances. But never had a problem. Foreseeing
such, I fitted them all in the green room which was reserved for
contestants, and had a small area which could be curtained off for costume
changes etc - but never really needed it. On that series, Will Young (who
won it) was very much top dog of the group - but in a nice way. He
organised all sorts of activities with them, nothing to do with the prog,
including a rather nice acapella version of a song he'd written, which I
don't think ever got broadcast.  

Came as no surprise when he turned out to have more strings to his
broadcasting bow than singing.

-- 
*A fool and his money can throw one hell of a party.

    Dave Plowman     dave at davesound.co.uk     London SW 12
    


From keithwicksuk at gmail.com  Wed Sep 19 04:23:34 2018
From: keithwicksuk at gmail.com (Keith Wicks)
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2018 10:23:34 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Denis Norden
Message-ID: <CAA=qGJnLvhO2N6uW85_KT0PKbZuP8ZyKz07MF-e1fa+frmkk5g@mail.gmail.com>

Denis Norden died this morning at the Royal Free Hospital in Hampstead. He
was 96. In later years, his wife Avril was deaf, and he had become blind.
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From alawrance1 at me.com  Wed Sep 19 05:42:36 2018
From: alawrance1 at me.com (Alasdair Lawrance)
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2018 11:42:36 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Might be of interest
Message-ID: <1D5D8BAF-5369-4D6D-93EF-AEED15338348@me.com>

Sad to hear about Dennis Norden.  I?d forgotten he went back to ?Take it from Here?

?Oooooh, Ron?.."



Here?s another article <https://www.bbc.co.uk/music/articles/0496d882-6c83-45c2-a2c9-02f384b6c3a6> that may be of interest.


Alasdair Lawrance
alawrance1 at me.com






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From dave.mdv at btinternet.com  Wed Sep 19 09:30:50 2018
From: dave.mdv at btinternet.com (dave.mdv)
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2018 15:30:50 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Spam
Message-ID: <1f44d79a-2c91-6fd6-7677-ba94abe25e74@btinternet.com>

I received an email from 'Peter Osborne' this morning regarding an 
unpaid invoice about which I have no knowledge! The 'from:' line is as 
follows - "peterosborne01 at hotmail.comychavez"@siicmexico.com - which 
doesn't look right. I forwarded the email to Peter in case he wasn't 
aware of the scam. Cheers, Dave


From mikej at bmanor.co.uk  Wed Sep 19 09:51:22 2018
From: mikej at bmanor.co.uk (Mike Jordan)
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2018 15:51:22 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Spam
In-Reply-To: <1f44d79a-2c91-6fd6-7677-ba94abe25e74@btinternet.com>
References: <1f44d79a-2c91-6fd6-7677-ba94abe25e74@btinternet.com>
Message-ID: <C902C7289C1B474E824C3041C2B9C781@Gigabyte>

I get quite a lot of these and of course never follow instructions (what's 
new!)
Unfortunately people either hack in to your account and steal all your 
address list or simply send an e-mail via your account.
If using Livemail, one can always click on the unopened message and select 
"Message source" and see all the grimm details of where it has come from.
If they have harvested details, simply changing passwords is an act too 
late!

Mike

-----Original Message----- 
From: dave.mdv via Tech1
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2018 3:30 PM
To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
Subject: [Tech1] Spam

I received an email from 'Peter Osborne' this morning regarding an
unpaid invoice about which I have no knowledge! The 'from:' line is as
follows - "peterosborne01 at hotmail.comychavez"@siicmexico.com - which
doesn't look right. I forwarded the email to Peter in case he wasn't
aware of the scam. Cheers, Dave

-- 
Tech1 mailing list
Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk 



From ian.hillson at gmail.com  Wed Sep 19 12:27:27 2018
From: ian.hillson at gmail.com (Ian H)
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2018 18:27:27 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Denis Norden
In-Reply-To: <CAA=qGJnLvhO2N6uW85_KT0PKbZuP8ZyKz07MF-e1fa+frmkk5g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAA=qGJnLvhO2N6uW85_KT0PKbZuP8ZyKz07MF-e1fa+frmkk5g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAO37+kaBtohGPJA1MaPwJ14ZM4bM7FK8G4OtvaXPkbOrxDsieA@mail.gmail.com>

https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2018/sep/19/denis-norden-obituary

On Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 10:24 AM Keith Wicks via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
wrote:

> Denis Norden died this morning at the Royal Free Hospital in Hampstead. He
> was 96. In later years, his wife Avril was deaf, and he had become blind.
>
> --
> Tech1 mailing list
> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk
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From ian.hillson at gmail.com  Wed Sep 19 12:31:36 2018
From: ian.hillson at gmail.com (Ian H)
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2018 18:31:36 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Open House London this weekend
Message-ID: <CAO37+kai=O44cRDEh7t2G4F8Zuh7Dak3eqsDvr9P8VuLAXkhvQ@mail.gmail.com>

For any masochists (or hecklers) there are tours of TVC this Saturday by
developers in shiny suits telling you what wonders they have performed:
https://openhouselondon.open-city.org.uk/listings/6158

Other venues are available:
https://openhouselondon.open-city.org.uk/

I
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From johnhcox at gmail.com  Wed Sep 19 14:21:44 2018
From: johnhcox at gmail.com (John Cox)
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2018 20:21:44 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Arthur Reed and Radio Mics
Message-ID: <5ba2a1c8.1c69fb81.45e03.2b41@mx.google.com>


  On my last story I didn?t expect a response from the Arthur Reed paragraph as there had been a lot last year.

 In the Television Outside Broadcast section at Wembley we moved around until we found our niche. I moved from Radio Links, Eurovision, Radio Links ,Scanners, Sound workshops, Scanner, LPU and finally Scanner. At Tel OBs base we had dedicated Workshops for Cameras,  Vision Electronics, Sound and Mechanical workshops and a garage for motors. In the Sound workshop we had a separate room entirely for Radio Mics. Four people worked in there, Des Browning, John Wiggins, Alastair Mitchell and myself. Alastair was known affectionally as ?Mitch?. I serviced the transmitters while the other men serviced the receivers. While I was fixing the early transmitters I thought that there must be a better way of lining up the output power  than using a post office P lamp. I bought an American ex service 35milliamp meter (which I still have) and with a germanium diode of the correct impedance made a probe and found it much easier to use. Designs Department later made a ?proper? metering system.

 I said in my previous dispatch that Television Centre had given up using Radio Mics, that was until I was on  a sound attachment to TVC. Among several shows was the ?Roy Castle Show?  Hugh Barker sound supervisor. I was asked to look after Radio Mics and was appalled when the equipment arrived from stores. I took most of the gear apart and tightened it especially the very loose BK6B microphone. There was no cabling for an aerial into the studio but there were vision cables which used the same PL259 plugs. I used one of these cables and rigged a large receiving aerial on the lighting gantry in the studio. Hugh and the producer were very pleased with the close sound from a long shot of the opening scene.

 My girlfriend who had served in the diplomatic corps and now had her own ?haute couture? dressmaking business in Bond street London  asked me if I would bring some men to a party of some Chilean girls one of who?s visa was expiring and had to return  to Santiago in Chile, she was the younger sister of the lady that my girlfriend Jean was sharing a house with. Among other colleagues I also asked Alastair to attend the party, but as I was working on that day I told them all ?don?t get there before I do?. Naturally they all went to the house long before I could get there. When I did arrive I crept into the back room to look at the exotic food layout, when all of a sudden a very irate voice shouted out ?Get Out?. I looked up and saw this young girl sitting on Alastair?s lap and having a big cuddle, I was amazed but left the room. Alastair was smitten with Ale? and later flew out to Santiago to ask Alexandra?s father if he could marry his daughter?
 The wedding was held in Acton, My girlfriend made the bride?s dress. Alastair and Ale? had two children Daniel and Erica. Twenty five years after Alastair?s wedding my wife Jean made the bride?s dress for Erica who married Niall Leonard in High Wycombe.

 Alastair?s middle name was James after his father. Alastair became a cameraman the leader of a crew that Alec Weeks particularly liked and chose to be the best for ?Match Of The Day?.

 Erica later became famous for her trilogy ?Fifty Shades Of Grey? and if you have been concentrating on my story you can work out how she chose her Pen Name, E L James!
 Erica made lots of money from the sale of her books, she also gave a lot to charity among them was a large amount to the Thomas Coram Foundation in Bloomsbury.

 It was at the Thomas Coram School near Euston Station in February 1985 where we made a 15 minute program ?Handel and Friends? for an insert in to the ?Handel Tercentenary Concert? where I had the best sound credit for the worst sound ever on TV. No interference from Presentation, eight seconds long just two names George Jakins the lighting engineer and mine with the producers name Ron Isted to follow. The ?bad? sound was from a very old wax cylinder that you could hardly hear of a chorus from Handel?s  ?Israel In Egypt?. I have a vhs recording of that broadcast but my vicious vhs recorder broke it. Does anybody know anyone who can fix the tape?





















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From dave at davesound.co.uk  Wed Sep 19 17:47:20 2018
From: dave at davesound.co.uk (Dave Plowman)
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2018 23:47:20 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Spam
In-Reply-To: <C902C7289C1B474E824C3041C2B9C781@Gigabyte>
References: <1f44d79a-2c91-6fd6-7677-ba94abe25e74@btinternet.com>
	<C902C7289C1B474E824C3041C2B9C781@Gigabyte>
Message-ID: <573a336f37dave@davesound.co.uk>

In article <C902C7289C1B474E824C3041C2B9C781 at Gigabyte>,
   Mike Jordan via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> I get quite a lot of these and of course never follow instructions
> (what's new!) Unfortunately people either hack in to your account and
> steal all your address list or simply send an e-mail via your account.
> If using Livemail, one can always click on the unopened message and
> select "Message source" and see all the grimm details of where it has
> come from. If they have harvested details, simply changing passwords is
> an act too late!

I got one today supposedly from a friend.

The 'reply to' address was correct, but the one it was sent from very
obviously wrong.

I suppose it's because I use an old email prog which doesn't seem to make
it so easy for forgers to fool.

-- 
*If all the world is a stage, where is the audience sitting?

    Dave Plowman     dave at davesound.co.uk     London SW 12
    


From patheigham at amps.net  Thu Sep 20 07:53:52 2018
From: patheigham at amps.net (patrickheigham)
Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2018 13:53:52 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Denis Norden
In-Reply-To: <CAA=qGJnLvhO2N6uW85_KT0PKbZuP8ZyKz07MF-e1fa+frmkk5g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAA=qGJnLvhO2N6uW85_KT0PKbZuP8ZyKz07MF-e1fa+frmkk5g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <66C7B69294A04116BA26567325C698EA@PATRICKSONY>

Very sad to hear about Denis.
I was Sound on a lovely shoot out of Monte Carlo.
Denis wanted, for the 25th Anniversary of "It'll be
Alright on the Night" to do linking items from
the Bermuda Triangle, as that was where most of
the outtakes disappeared! (He said!)
A location scout was dispatched to Bermuda to
organise a boat, but all of the waterborne charter
gin palaces only came in for the day to change
passengers - no chance of of using one for the day.
The alternative plan was to rent a super yacht out
of MonteCarlo, and put out to sea far enough not
to see any land whatever the shot.
Denis was filmed at various places on the boat,
and I shot like a feature - very clean dialogue with
separate wildtracks of boat/engine FX.
The Director (a lovely man), rang me at home,
saying that he couldn't hear the engines.
I explained that I had provided a choice of FX that
he could use to dub on as required.

One story begets another - the location scout to
Bermuda hired a motorbike, had a crash and
broke both forearms.
I had a murderous hangover for the shoot day,
owing to too enthusiastic imbibing the night
before!
The captain of the super craft steered the thing,
not by the 'prop' wheel fastened to the 'dashboard'
but by twiddling a knob on an Eddystone box
on his armrest!
A beautiful boat, and the on-board crew laid on
a super buffet lunch for us.

Best
Pat

 
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Keith Wicks via Tech1 
  To: tech1 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2018 10:23 AM
  Subject: [Tech1] Denis Norden


  Denis Norden died this morning at the Royal Free Hospital in Hampstead. He was 96. In later years, his wife Avril was deaf, and he had become blind.

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From dave.mdv at btinternet.com  Fri Sep 21 10:53:16 2018
From: dave.mdv at btinternet.com (dave.mdv)
Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2018 16:53:16 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Screen credit
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That would be this one then John! Cheers, Dave
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From dave.mdv at btinternet.com  Fri Sep 21 17:51:36 2018
From: dave.mdv at btinternet.com (dave.mdv)
Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2018 23:51:36 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Screen credit #2
Message-ID: <e53ac0b3-0c84-d0d1-818a-ba1ed6847f67@btinternet.com>

... and here's the other one, with a couple of other well-known names! 
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From grahamthecameraman at icloud.com  Sat Sep 22 03:28:59 2018
From: grahamthecameraman at icloud.com (Graham Maunder)
Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2018 09:28:59 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Screen credit #2
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What sort of credits are these?? Why aren?t they squeezed into a corner and going so fast as to be pointless??!!!!!
Happy days!

Graham Maunder 
Awfully Nice Video

Sent from my iPhone 

> On 21 Sep 2018, at 23:51, dave.mdv via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> ... and here's the other one, with a couple of other well-known names! Cheers, Dave
> <SOP Maidenhead credit.jpg>
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From waresound at msn.com  Sat Sep 22 04:50:47 2018
From: waresound at msn.com (Nick Ware)
Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2018 09:50:47 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Screen credit #2
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Simples! In those days they couldn?t.
If they cud ?uv, they wud ?uv.
Nick.

Sent from my iPad

On 22 Sep 2018, at 09:29, Graham Maunder via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk<mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>> wrote:

What sort of credits are these?? Why aren?t they squeezed into a corner and going so fast as to be pointless??!!!!!
Happy days!

Graham Maunder
Awfully Nice Video

Sent from my iPhone

On 21 Sep 2018, at 23:51, dave.mdv via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk<mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>> wrote:

... and here's the other one, with a couple of other well-known names! Cheers, Dave
<SOP Maidenhead credit.jpg>
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From bernie833 at gmail.com  Sun Sep 23 05:52:27 2018
From: bernie833 at gmail.com (Bernard Newnham)
Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2018 11:52:27 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Job ad
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This from the new edition of Private Eye -



Your BBC Needs You!
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From tonynuttall at me.com  Sun Sep 23 07:39:14 2018
From: tonynuttall at me.com (William Nuttall)
Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2018 14:39:14 +0200
Subject: [Tech1] Programmes for Schools and Colleges by nikhorne | Redbubble
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So much for copy right! Who cares any way.
Tony N.
https://www.redbubble.com/people/nikhorne/collections/606041-programmes-for-schools-and-colleges


Sent from my iPad

From dave.mdv at btinternet.com  Sun Sep 23 19:34:10 2018
From: dave.mdv at btinternet.com (dave.mdv)
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2018 01:34:10 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Memories
Message-ID: <c2020d17-07d7-859d-cb93-d2d3a3bdf993@btinternet.com>

After the Olympics in LA in 1984 I had arranged to split my journey home 
in New York to visit my wife's ex-school friend's family in New Jersey. 
I stayed at the same hotel on 47th. street that we had stayed at with 
the kids just before they had to pay the adult fares! One night, in my 
basment room I was listening to my small Olympus FM receiver and 
micro-cassette device exploring the local radio station, as you do! 
Anyway, I recorded a segment of the broadcast and I have always wondered 
what it was as it was so nice and I have just found out it's title 24 
years later! Attached for you, Michel Legrand's 'What are you doing the 
rest of your life'. Cheers, Dave
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From dave.mdv at btinternet.com  Sun Sep 23 19:53:22 2018
From: dave.mdv at btinternet.com (dave.mdv)
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2018 01:53:22 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Memories bonus
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I'm just waiting for first smartarse to point out that 1984 was more 
than 24 years ago! Add 10 and you may be getting close! Cheers, Dave


From waresound at msn.com  Mon Sep 24 02:55:34 2018
From: waresound at msn.com (Nick Ware)
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2018 07:55:34 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Memories bonus
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So that you won?t be disappointed, 1984 was more than 24 years ago. Add 10 and you may be getting close!

On the subject of smartarses, on my way back from Reading last night I was at one point aggressively overtaken by a car with the reg number AR50WLS, the 5 just a little rounded. As contrived number plates go, that had my full admiration!

Best,
Nick.

Sent from my iPad

On 24 Sep 2018, at 01:53, dave.mdv via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk<mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>> wrote:

I'm just waiting for first smartarse to point out that 1984 was more than 24 years ago! Add 10 and you may be getting close! Cheers, Dave

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From alec.bray.2 at gmail.com  Mon Sep 24 03:45:43 2018
From: alec.bray.2 at gmail.com (Alec Bray)
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2018 09:45:43 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] New York Hotels
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Some 10 years later than Dave's stay in New York, I had to go to New 
York to set up my company's Network Management software in CUNY (City 
University of New York).? 'Twas my first visit to New York, and so I 
thought I'd get a NY Yellow Cab to the hotel from JFK (BTW I'd 
previously been to Newark, NJ).

Cab pulled up at the cab rank. I piled in. "Gramercy Park Hotel" I 
said.? "I know that!" said the cab driver.? Well, that was a surprise, 
being used to London cabbies. So we set off.? We had to stop at the 
bridge across to Manhattan, as there was a vehicle fire - and then the 
next surprise - "You have to pay the toll across the bridge!" said the 
driver.? After this exploration of New York, I arrived at Gramercy Park 
Hotel.? I'd booked into this hotel, as it was cheap and near the CUNY 
offices.? The hotel was pleasant enough, OK for sleeping in at night.? I 
was told by the management that? Gramercy Park, just opposite the hotel 
frontage, was the only private park in New York.

And so to work.? CUNY had a huge mainframe computer - in those days, 
mainframes were huge things, less computing power than in your average 
mobile phone nowadays, but this one was really big, took up the complete 
width of a largish room.? It had an UPS (Uninterrupted Power Supply) 
which consisted of a bank of (lead acid?) batteries - as long as the 
mainframe itself and standing behind it.

The systems admin for all this set up was mad-keen on Star Trek, and had 
decked out the main console to be a bit like the bridge on the 
Enterprise.? No problem guessing his logon password - NCC1701D (which I 
did on a couple of occasions).

My job was to set up our Network Management product on the network to 
which this mainframe was attached.? Got started, installed all the 
software, check all around, - and would the product work? No.? I did not 
have a clue.? Tried this and that - nothing worked.? In such cases, I 
usually said to the customer about this time: "I'm going to have a 
little play"? (in other words, I hadn't the foggiest about what was 
happening, but something might give me a clue if I fiddled around 
enough).? Time was marching on, and it had gone past 7:30 in the evening 
(19:30 plus).? I must admit that I was getting desperate.? Then 
suddenly, at a little after 5 to 8 (19:55 plus) it all came alive.? 
There, on the display, was the whole of the CUNY network (we had built 
in autodiscovery of the network - reading through the routers' routing 
tables to find out where the network went to, and following that route, 
chase through the remote routers' connections (and so on).

At that moment, the Head of the Computing faculty walked in to the 
control room with a bunch of students. He was amazed at what our Network 
Management product was able to show, and he could expand large to the 
students about CUNY being in the forefront of new technology uptake.? 
(He was so pleased, he later presented me with a desk clock, which is 
still on my desk facing me as i type this)

Then back to Gramercy Park Hotel.? Interesting to stay in the hotel 
where Humphrey Bogart married his first wife Helen Menken. (Have to 
include a showbiz line!)l

Gramercy Park Hotel, and the other buildings round the park, featured in 
a book "The Interpretation of Murder" by Jed Rubenfeld, sometime 
Professor of Law at Yale University. The book is about Sigmund Freud 
assisting in the solution of a Murder in Manhattan.

Some time after my stay, Gramercy Park Hotel, it was completely 
renovated in collaboration with artist Julian Schnable, and because of 
its furnishings, paintings and sculptures, the Hotel is now far more 
than a unique luxury property - it?s a work of art in a great part of 
New York - and very very expensive. ?Certainly could not stay there 
nowadays!


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Alec

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mob:    07789 561 346
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From jpn at imixmics.co.uk  Mon Sep 24 06:02:10 2018
From: jpn at imixmics.co.uk (John Nottage)
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2018 12:02:10 +0100 (BST)
Subject: [Tech1] New York Hotels
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Never quite made it to New York. Flew into JFK on Concorde courtesy of BA & Noel Edmonds show. US crew took over (we weren't allowed to work in US) & we took a taxi to a Long Island shopping mall. Could see the NY skyscrapers in the distance. Few hours later it was onto Concorde again for the flight home. Fog at Heathrow so we were diverted to Glasgow where we were amalgamated with the Concorde from Miami (I sat at the back with the Bee Gees!) for the late flight back to London. Long day, but great fun!

John

> On 24 September 2018 at 09:45 Alec Bray via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> 
> Some 10 years later than Dave's stay in New York, I had to go to New 
> York to set up my company's Network Management software in CUNY (City 
> University of New York).? 'Twas my first visit to New York, and so I 
> thought I'd get a NY Yellow Cab to the hotel from JFK (BTW I'd 
> previously been to Newark, NJ).
> 
> Cab pulled up at the cab rank. I piled in. "Gramercy Park Hotel" I 
> said.? "I know that!" said the cab driver.? Well, that was a surprise, 
> being used to London cabbies. So we set off.? We had to stop at the 
> bridge across to Manhattan, as there was a vehicle fire - and then the 
> next surprise - "You have to pay the toll across the bridge!" said the 
> driver.? After this exploration of New York, I arrived at Gramercy Park 
> Hotel.? I'd booked into this hotel, as it was cheap and near the CUNY 
> offices.? The hotel was pleasant enough, OK for sleeping in at night.? I 
> was told by the management that? Gramercy Park, just opposite the hotel 
> frontage, was the only private park in New York.
> 
> And so to work.? CUNY had a huge mainframe computer - in those days, 
> mainframes were huge things, less computing power than in your average 
> mobile phone nowadays, but this one was really big, took up the complete 
> width of a largish room.? It had an UPS (Uninterrupted Power Supply) 
> which consisted of a bank of (lead acid?) batteries - as long as the 
> mainframe itself and standing behind it.
> 
> The systems admin for all this set up was mad-keen on Star Trek, and had 
> decked out the main console to be a bit like the bridge on the 
> Enterprise.? No problem guessing his logon password - NCC1701D (which I 
> did on a couple of occasions).
> 
> My job was to set up our Network Management product on the network to 
> which this mainframe was attached.? Got started, installed all the 
> software, check all around, - and would the product work? No.? I did not 
> have a clue.? Tried this and that - nothing worked.? In such cases, I 
> usually said to the customer about this time: "I'm going to have a 
> little play"? (in other words, I hadn't the foggiest about what was 
> happening, but something might give me a clue if I fiddled around 
> enough).? Time was marching on, and it had gone past 7:30 in the evening 
> (19:30 plus).? I must admit that I was getting desperate.? Then 
> suddenly, at a little after 5 to 8 (19:55 plus) it all came alive.? 
> There, on the display, was the whole of the CUNY network (we had built 
> in autodiscovery of the network - reading through the routers' routing 
> tables to find out where the network went to, and following that route, 
> chase through the remote routers' connections (and so on).
> 
> At that moment, the Head of the Computing faculty walked in to the 
> control room with a bunch of students. He was amazed at what our Network 
> Management product was able to show, and he could expand large to the 
> students about CUNY being in the forefront of new technology uptake.? 
> (He was so pleased, he later presented me with a desk clock, which is 
> still on my desk facing me as i type this)
> 
> Then back to Gramercy Park Hotel.? Interesting to stay in the hotel 
> where Humphrey Bogart married his first wife Helen Menken. (Have to 
> include a showbiz line!)l
> 
> Gramercy Park Hotel, and the other buildings round the park, featured in 
> a book "The Interpretation of Murder" by Jed Rubenfeld, sometime 
> Professor of Law at Yale University. The book is about Sigmund Freud 
> assisting in the solution of a Murder in Manhattan.
> 
> Some time after my stay, Gramercy Park Hotel, it was completely 
> renovated in collaboration with artist Julian Schnable, and because of 
> its furnishings, paintings and sculptures, the Hotel is now far more 
> than a unique luxury property - it?s a work of art in a great part of 
> New York - and very very expensive. ?Certainly could not stay there 
> nowadays!
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> Best Regards
> 
> Alec
> 
> Alec Bray
> 
> alec.bray.2 at gmail.com
> mob:    07789 561 346
> home:   0118 981 7502
> 
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From tonycrake at gmail.com  Mon Sep 24 06:30:18 2018
From: tonycrake at gmail.com (Tony Crake)
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2018 12:30:18 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Memories bonus
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I liked Alec's story about the Gramercy Hotel in NY...... as to the the
exotic number plate in Reading

the whole of the Thames Valley is full of them !!!!!

On Mon, 24 Sep 2018 at 08:56, Nick Ware via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
wrote:

> So that you won?t be disappointed, 1984 was more than 24 years ago. Add 10
> and you may be getting close!
>
> On the subject of smartarses, on my way back from Reading last night I was
> at one point aggressively overtaken by a car with the reg number AR50WLS,
> the 5 just a little rounded. As contrived number plates go, that had my
> full admiration!
>
> Best,
> Nick.
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On 24 Sep 2018, at 01:53, dave.mdv via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
>
> I'm just waiting for first smartarse to point out that 1984 was more than
> 24 years ago! Add 10 and you may be getting close! Cheers, Dave
>
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From j at howell61.f9.co.uk  Mon Sep 24 08:00:59 2018
From: j at howell61.f9.co.uk (John Howell)
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2018 14:00:59 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Memories bonus
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Message-ID: <f4c7c279-2aed-83dc-60f9-e662ecde03cc@howell61.f9.co.uk>

 From another *S*mart*A*rse:

The number AR 50 WLS was never issued, the current? 'year identifier' 
system was started in September 2001 with '51' continuing with '02' & 
'52' for 2002 and so on. So a false plate?

 From a one-time *S*ound *A*ssistant,

John H.



On 24/09/2018 08:55, Nick Ware via Tech1 wrote:

> So that you won?t be disappointed, 1984 was more than 24 years ago. 
> Add 10 and you may be getting close!
>
> On the subject of smartarses, on my way back from Reading last night I 
> was at one point aggressively overtaken by a car with the reg number 
> AR50WLS, the 5 just a little rounded. As contrived number plates go, 
> that had my full admiration!
>
> Best,
> Nick.
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On 24 Sep 2018, at 01:53, dave.mdv via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk 
> <mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>> wrote:
>
>> I'm just waiting for first smartarse to point out that 1984 was more 
>> than 24 years ago! Add 10 and you may be getting close! Cheers, Dave
>>
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From patheigham at amps.net  Mon Sep 24 08:22:46 2018
From: patheigham at amps.net (patrickheigham)
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2018 14:22:46 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Car reg was Memories bonus
In-Reply-To: <f4c7c279-2aed-83dc-60f9-e662ecde03cc@howell61.f9.co.uk>
References: <c2020d17-07d7-859d-cb93-d2d3a3bdf993@btinternet.com><2c4054b2-9c29-3f50-2f48-c14511e371af@btinternet.com><VI1P192MB0271358F65B0BFAE505C531AA7170@VI1P192MB0271.EURP192.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
	<f4c7c279-2aed-83dc-60f9-e662ecde03cc@howell61.f9.co.uk>
Message-ID: <B7B1AA70C8F640849A1B608D4C705474@PATRICKSONY>

Not necessarily John,
In a spasm of vanity, I went looking for a personal registration.
Although my vehicle was a 2009 car, I was permitted to have
07 as the numerical bit (my birthday!) As long as it didn't
indicate the vehicle as being younger than it was.

Try dialling in Nick's bad driver's reg to DVLA site and see
if it's recognised as being taxed and insured.

I did try for H316HAM, which is nearly my surname,
but DVLA does not hold back plates with that high
a number for sale.

Regards
Pat

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: John Howell via Tech1 
  To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk 
  Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 2:00 PM
  Subject: Re: [Tech1] Memories bonus


  From another SmartArse:

  The number AR 50 WLS was never issued, the current  'year identifier' system was started in September 2001 with '51' continuing with '02' & '52' for 2002 and so on. So a false plate?

  From a one-time Sound Assistant,

  John H.


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From patheigham at amps.net  Mon Sep 24 09:17:08 2018
From: patheigham at amps.net (patrickheigham)
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2018 15:17:08 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Memories bonus
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I did check this reg - result: Vehicle details could not be found, so
probably a fake plate, Nick.
Pity you didn't run him off the road - Sorry, seen too many Bond films!

Re: checking plates;
A friend from years ago suspected his wife of having an affair, and
tracked her to a hotel, following her travelling in a BMW, which he
could not keep up with. He had an unofficial police contact who
ran the licence plate, which came up with 'classifed'.
As the area was close to Thorney Island, a training establishment
for the military, so the inference was that the guy shagging his wife
was probably SAS.
Yes, I know that it sounds like a film script, but the tragic result was
that my friend committed suicide.

Best
Pat

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: John Howell via Tech1 
  To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk 
  Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 2:00 PM
  Subject: Re: [Tech1] Memories bonus


  From another SmartArse:

  The number AR 50 WLS was never issued, the current  'year identifier' system was started in September 2001 with '51' continuing with '02' & '52' for 2002 and so on. So a false plate?

  From a one-time Sound Assistant,

  John H.








  On 24/09/2018 08:55, Nick Ware via Tech1 wrote:


    On the subject of smartarses, on my way back from Reading last night I was at one point aggressively overtaken by a car with the reg number AR50WLS, the 5 just a little rounded. As contrived number plates go, that had my full admiration!


    Best,
    Nick.

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From pat.heigham at btinternet.com  Mon Sep 24 10:41:31 2018
From: pat.heigham at btinternet.com (patheigham)
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2018 16:41:31 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Bodyguard
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Who watched this (BBC1 Sundays)

Gripping drama, but any comments about the sound?

Pat

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From j at howell61.f9.co.uk  Mon Sep 24 10:50:22 2018
From: j at howell61.f9.co.uk (John Howell)
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2018 16:50:22 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Car reg was Memories bonus
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You Pat, 'a fit of vanity' surely not?

You're probably right about 'too many Bond films'

and now we have 'Bodyguard'.......

Lot's of women in senior roles, and there's the new Dr Who,

us blokes better watch out!


John.



On 24/09/2018 14:22, patrickheigham wrote:
> Not necessarily John,
> In a spasm of vanity, I went looking for a personal registration.
> Although my vehicle was a 2009 car, I was permitted to have
> 07 as the numerical bit (my birthday!) As long as it didn't
> indicate the vehicle as being younger than it was.
> Try dialling in Nick's bad driver's reg to DVLA site and see
> if it's recognised as being taxed and insured.
> I did try for H316HAM, which is nearly my surname,
> but DVLA does not hold back plates with that high
> a number for sale.
> Regards
> Pat
>
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     *From:* John Howell via Tech1 <mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
>     *To:* tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk <mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
>     *Sent:* Monday, September 24, 2018 2:00 PM
>     *Subject:* Re: [Tech1] Memories bonus
>
>     From another *S*mart*A*rse:
>
>     The number AR 50 WLS was never issued, the current? 'year
>     identifier' system was started in September 2001 with '51'
>     continuing with '02' & '52' for 2002 and so on. So a false plate?
>
>     From a one-time *S*ound *A*ssistant,
>
>     John H.
>
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From ohbytheway.tv at gmail.com  Mon Sep 24 10:55:19 2018
From: ohbytheway.tv at gmail.com (David Denness)
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2018 16:55:19 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Bodyguard
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Variable

 

From: Tech1 <tech1-bounces at tech-ops.co.uk> On Behalf Of patheigham via Tech1
Sent: 24 September 2018 16:42
To: patrickheigham <patheigham at amps.net>; tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
Subject: [Tech1] Bodyguard

 

Who watched this (BBC1 Sundays)

 

Gripping drama, but any comments about the sound?

 

Pat

 

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From vernon.dyer at btinternet.com  Mon Sep 24 11:33:11 2018
From: vernon.dyer at btinternet.com (vernon.dyer)
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2018 17:33:11 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Job ad
Message-ID: <d4ophmceq2ly0227wtvd8wxl.1537806791256@email.android.com>


At first I read the last line as 'undeserved audiences' - I think I agree with that!?

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From waresound at msn.com  Mon Sep 24 12:33:00 2018
From: waresound at msn.com (Nick Ware)
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2018 17:33:00 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Memories bonus
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My memory! It was R510WLS, first registered 31/12/1998. Presumably transferred it to current vehicle.
N.
Sent from my iPad

On 24 Sep 2018, at 14:01, John Howell via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk<mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>> wrote:


From another SmartArse:

The number AR 50 WLS was never issued, the current  'year identifier' system was started in September 2001 with '51' continuing with '02' & '52' for 2002 and so on. So a false plate?

From a one-time Sound Assistant,

John H.



On 24/09/2018 08:55, Nick Ware via Tech1 wrote:

So that you won?t be disappointed, 1984 was more than 24 years ago. Add 10 and you may be getting close!

On the subject of smartarses, on my way back from Reading last night I was at one point aggressively overtaken by a car with the reg number AR50WLS, the 5 just a little rounded. As contrived number plates go, that had my full admiration!

Best,
Nick.

Sent from my iPad

On 24 Sep 2018, at 01:53, dave.mdv via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk<mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>> wrote:

I'm just waiting for first smartarse to point out that 1984 was more than 24 years ago! Add 10 and you may be getting close! Cheers, Dave

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From waresound at msn.com  Mon Sep 24 12:44:32 2018
From: waresound at msn.com (Nick Ware)
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2018 17:44:32 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Memories
In-Reply-To: <c2020d17-07d7-859d-cb93-d2d3a3bdf993@btinternet.com>
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Search that title on Youtube. Lots of versions to choose from, The Shirley Bassey being one of the best. Am I right in thinking that?s a BBC TVT (Yvonne Littlewood) show? Think I might have been there!
Nick.

Sent from my iPad

On 24 Sep 2018, at 01:35, dave.mdv via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk<mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>> wrote:

After the Olympics in LA in 1984 I had arranged to split my journey home in New York to visit my wife's ex-school friend's family in New Jersey. I stayed at the same hotel on 47th. street that we had stayed at with the kids just before they had to pay the adult fares! One night, in my basment room I was listening to my small Olympus FM receiver and micro-cassette device exploring the local radio station, as you do! Anyway, I recorded a segment of the broadcast and I have always wondered what it was as it was so nice and I have just found out it's title 24 years later! Attached for you, Michel Legrand's 'What are you doing the rest of your life'. Cheers, Dave
<04-What Are You Doing The Rest Of Your Life.mp3>
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From grahamthecameraman at icloud.com  Mon Sep 24 17:54:14 2018
From: grahamthecameraman at icloud.com (Graham Maunder)
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2018 23:54:14 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Memories
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Shirley Bassey was a Stuart Morris production at TVT

Graham

Sent from my iPhone 

> On 24 Sep 2018, at 18:44, Nick Ware via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> Search that title on Youtube. Lots of versions to choose from, The Shirley Bassey being one of the best. Am I right in thinking that?s a BBC TVT (Yvonne Littlewood) show? Think I might have been there!
> Nick.
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> On 24 Sep 2018, at 01:35, dave.mdv via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
>> After the Olympics in LA in 1984 I had arranged to split my journey home in New York to visit my wife's ex-school friend's family in New Jersey. I stayed at the same hotel on 47th. street that we had stayed at with the kids just before they had to pay the adult fares! One night, in my basment room I was listening to my small Olympus FM receiver and micro-cassette device exploring the local radio station, as you do! Anyway, I recorded a segment of the broadcast and I have always wondered what it was as it was so nice and I have just found out it's title 24 years later! Attached for you, Michel Legrand's 'What are you doing the rest of your life'. Cheers, Dave
>> <04-What Are You Doing The Rest Of Your Life.mp3>
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From dave at davesound.co.uk  Tue Sep 25 05:38:34 2018
From: dave at davesound.co.uk (Dave Plowman)
Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2018 11:38:34 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Memories
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In article <08F4662B-2518-461E-AA22-BA9549876FEE at icloud.com>,
   Graham Maunder via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> Shirley Bassey was a Stuart Morris production at TVT

She did a 'special' at Thames Teddington in the '80s. That will very
likely survive somewhere.  Many of her greatest hits.

Superb sound by Peter Wilcocks.

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From graeme.wall at icloud.com  Tue Sep 25 05:56:16 2018
From: graeme.wall at icloud.com (Graeme Wall)
Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2018 11:56:16 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Memories
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We did one in TC1 about 1975. Big circular set with the audience in one half and the orchestra in the other,  stage in the centre.  There were 3 peds[1] inside the set and the Nike and a Mole tracking round outside, looking over the top.

[1] Possibly 2 peds and a Heron, the memory is a bit dim.
? 
Graeme Wall





> On 25 Sep 2018, at 11:38, Dave Plowman via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> In article <08F4662B-2518-461E-AA22-BA9549876FEE at icloud.com>,
>   Graham Maunder via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
>> Shirley Bassey was a Stuart Morris production at TVT
> 
> She did a 'special' at Thames Teddington in the '80s. That will very
> likely survive somewhere.  Many of her greatest hits.
> 
> Superb sound by Peter Wilcocks.
> 
> -- 
> *Middle age is when it takes longer to rest than to get tired.
> 
>    Dave Plowman     dave at davesound.co.uk     London SW 12
> 
> 
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From alawrance1 at me.com  Tue Sep 25 06:24:41 2018
From: alawrance1 at me.com (Alasdair Lawrance)
Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2018 12:24:41 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Memories
In-Reply-To: <41FA75DC-63F4-4B76-AE44-A97761E70CFA@icloud.com>
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Message-ID: <727A4BAF-F9C3-40F3-BE5E-C875D8A04AAF@me.com>

I remember a big music prog with Yvonne Littlewood that started off with two Moles, two Herons and a ped.

By the end of the first day, it was one Heron and four peds?..

Almost certainly TC1, and although just cable bashing, I remember being exhausted at the end of the day, mauling all this machinery about, getting it out into the scenery runway, there being no more room elsewhere?.

Can?t remember the performers, regrettably.

Alasdair Lawrance
alawrance1 at me.com






On 25 Sep 2018, at 11:56, Graeme Wall via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:

We did one in TC1 about 1975. Big circular set with the audience in one half and the orchestra in the other,  stage in the centre.  There were 3 peds[1] inside the set and the Nike and a Mole tracking round outside, looking over the top.

[1] Possibly 2 peds and a Heron, the memory is a bit dim.
? 
Graeme Wall





> On 25 Sep 2018, at 11:38, Dave Plowman via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> In article <08F4662B-2518-461E-AA22-BA9549876FEE at icloud.com>,
>  Graham Maunder via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
>> Shirley Bassey was a Stuart Morris production at TVT
> 
> She did a 'special' at Thames Teddington in the '80s. That will very
> likely survive somewhere.  Many of her greatest hits.
> 
> Superb sound by Peter Wilcocks.
> 
> -- 
> *Middle age is when it takes longer to rest than to get tired.
> 
>   Dave Plowman     dave at davesound.co.uk     London SW 12
> 
> 
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From ian.hillson at gmail.com  Thu Sep 27 07:28:24 2018
From: ian.hillson at gmail.com (Ian H)
Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2018 13:28:24 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] TVC
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>From today's Times
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From dave at davesound.co.uk  Thu Sep 27 08:35:40 2018
From: dave at davesound.co.uk (Dave Plowman)
Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2018 14:35:40 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] TVC
In-Reply-To: <CAO37+kYFRHGbMRkLNjaP7rjHWfT5bROuULbve95H3UkVW2rKhg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJfPDPmq=tKnnyzCZpw6iK02g3hO5R2FXLyf126RFtoeJXeK-g@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <573e1f9d39dave@davesound.co.uk>

In article
<CAO37+kYFRHGbMRkLNjaP7rjHWfT5bROuULbve95H3UkVW2rKhg at mail.gmail.com>,
   Ian H via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> From today's Times
> [image: TVC_portrait.jpg]

Is there a better word than hideous?

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*Why is the time of day with the slowest traffic called rush hour?

    Dave Plowman     dave at davesound.co.uk     London SW 12
    


From mibridge at mac.com  Thu Sep 27 13:06:25 2018
From: mibridge at mac.com (Mike Giles)
Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2018 19:06:25 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Fwd:  TVC
References: <2209D574-FA97-4B89-BB0E-270CEB701C95@mac.com>
Message-ID: <EE43F165-DDBA-43B4-98EE-B5AA13402B5B@mac.com>


I first read it as ?live? i.e. live transmission, ?at TV Centre?!

Mike G

> On 27 Sep 2018, at 13:28, Ian H via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> 
> From today's Times
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From martin at theeccles.uk  Fri Sep 28 15:46:21 2018
From: martin at theeccles.uk (Martin Eccles)
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2018 21:46:21 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Ernest Maxin obituary
Message-ID: <003201d4576c$51201ad0$f3605070$@theeccles.uk>

The BBC News obituary had his name as Ernest Maxin

but I and my local BBC colleagues always thought it was Maxim.

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-45671796

 

Which is correct ?

Martin.

 

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From peter.neill at icloud.com  Fri Sep 28 15:57:56 2018
From: peter.neill at icloud.com (Peter Neill)
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2018 21:57:56 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Ernest Maxin obituary
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Sent from my iPhone. Apologies for typos and autocorruptions. 

> On 28 Sep 2018, at 21:46, Martin Eccles via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> The BBC News obituary had his name as Ernest Maxin
> but I and my local BBC colleagues always thought it was Maxim.
>  
> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-45671796
>  
> Which is correct ?
> Martin.
>  
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From dave.mdv at btinternet.com  Fri Sep 28 16:28:26 2018
From: dave.mdv at btinternet.com (dave.mdv)
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2018 22:28:26 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Ernest Maxin obituary
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Sorry Pete, he was always MaxiN to my way of thinking. Cheers, Dave PS. 
Glad to see you got back from foreign soils in your old jalopy!


From alec.bray.2 at gmail.com  Sat Sep 29 05:22:42 2018
From: alec.bray.2 at gmail.com (Alec Bray)
Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2018 11:22:42 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Technical Reprints now avaliable on-line
Message-ID: <9c17c029-2648-543c-c604-88ff718f9ac1@gmail.com>

Hello all,

With Bernie's permission, I have put up on the Tech Ops website the PDF 
copies of Technical Reprints that I emailed out some time ago.? They are 
now all in one place, and are easily accessible by everyone (thanks, 
Bernie!)

While I was at it, I thought that I would gather together some PDFs 
scattered throughout the conversations and so on - and there are some 
more documents that I can scan in. The start page is here (so you can 
see the plan)

http://tech-ops.co.uk/next/2018/09/a-bbc-library-of-tech-ops-related-materials/

- but the only working link is to the technical reprints index page.

It's not quite what I proposed to Bernie - I have worked within the 
structures available through WordPress - but you can click EITHER on the 
cover picture OR the Document Title to see the document in full.

Any comments for improvement are very welcome.? Don't worry Bernie with 
moans or groans - all errors (of judgement, layout or typing) are mine.


And, if you have a document that you would like to add, please contact 
me and we can add it in.? I know some of you - hoarders like me - will 
have stuff that is of interest and relevance to us all!

Hope that you enjoy it,

-- 

Best Regards

Alec

Alec Bray

alec.bray.2 at gmail.com
mob:    07789 561 346
home:   0118 981 7502



From tonynuttall at me.com  Sun Sep 30 12:09:33 2018
From: tonynuttall at me.com (William Nuttall)
Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2018 17:09:33 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [Tech1] They Shall Not Grow Old Peter Jackson Project
Message-ID: <458c8d77-2d73-4b52-8290-e7860cebd6be@me.com>

Interesting stuff!!


16th October in your local VUE Cinema. Q&A plus the film.

Interesting project by Peter Jackson (Lord of the Rings) the IWM & the BBC.
Premier at the BFI London Film Festival 16th Oct. The re mastering & colourisation
is incredible.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=8&v=D6Do1p1CWyc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePxpbDmykD4

Tony N.
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From rogerbunce at btinternet.com  Sun Sep 30 13:31:43 2018
From: rogerbunce at btinternet.com (ROGER BUNCE)
Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2018 18:31:43 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Tech1] Benny Hill
References: <742174785.1859909.1538332303570.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <742174785.1859909.1538332303570@mail.yahoo.com>

I remember seeing this Benny Hill how-not-to-edit-a-movie sketch when I was a youngster, and have just rediscovered it on YouTube. Those who worry about cross-eyelines and jump-cuts may not want to watch!
https://youtu.be/5SS4H-lbUL0

luv, Rog.
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