From pat.heigham at btinternet.com  Mon Oct  1 11:44:30 2018
From: pat.heigham at btinternet.com (patheigham)
Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2018 17:44:30 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Benny Hill
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I remember working on inserts for Benny?s show when at TVC, and later
For Thames at the golf club location.
I?m still in touch with Jenny Lee-Wright, one of the original Hill?s Angels.

How did he manage to always look about 15 years old?

Pat

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From: ROGER BUNCE via Tech1
Sent: 30 September 2018 19:57
To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
Subject: [Tech1] Benny Hill

I remember seeing this Benny Hill how-not-to-edit-a-movie sketch when I was a youngster, and have just rediscovered it on YouTube. Those who worry about cross-eyelines and jump-cuts may not want to watch!

https://youtu.be/5SS4H-lbUL0

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From billjenkin67 at gmail.com  Tue Oct  2 02:49:13 2018
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Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2018 08:49:13 +0100
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. . .  and to refresh your memory where the idea for that eating sequence came from . . .

https://youtu.be/tezjznL9NzM 

 

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I remember seeing this Benny Hill how-not-to-edit-a-movie sketch when I was a youngster, and have just rediscovered it on YouTube. Those who worry about cross-eyelines and jump-cuts may not want to watch!

 

https://youtu.be/5SS4H-lbUL0

 

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From peter.neill at icloud.com  Tue Oct  2 10:25:33 2018
From: peter.neill at icloud.com (Peter Neill)
Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2018 16:25:33 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Ernest Maxin obituary
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http://track.smtpsendemail.com/20919/c?p=FpWdkpLxq7ISHfZcHQcNxHHVMGpEkVPnXpX4_0GJlYt8qIYWLYnH-Cn5g0BimhTrcJ2VkExwwHhKHDc9vcTrRPoBQaayoDRh7qopuw8fhcBZQ7ZSziyhrzZ5KcSOHVtSuIAfVx36_uONJaxmMAKQlCzjh6cdcUwCacthWxK0grsUts4CcIhWtWSDMCLbIyu_ <http://track.smtpsendemail.com/20919/c?p=2BcAGBBcne6hbOjjbDCCkfRWKNigCRkWP4O52Cm4UnoygB4uT30pLDcVDSNqmhTMVtBHnBm1KfzzPcGpkYXCSKzWQSTmYRBXLQfG0CiyRDR1zYXZh_U7VvZsB2sgUFFxV1YPAbnSheZdLG58vRUw84txzDadEAPFkIM39ovr3BE-1Ijmcii_QmplvvxDTKM_>

Guardian obit written by Louis Barfe, friend of this group.





> On 28 Sep 2018, at 21:57, Peter Neill via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
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> On 28 Sep 2018, at 21:46, Martin Eccles via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk <mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>> wrote:
> 
>> The BBC News obituary had his name as Ernest Maxin
>> but I and my local BBC colleagues always thought it was Maxim.
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>> http://track.smtpsendemail.com/20919/c?p=ClSjSFDUmQEYuTOfawF7szxzsH4UkGGXMtW5Lv0WvG7iBzNEec97tOqc6BPMptynnYJpkG1AnggwdD9eSLi5HV8eMc6SamwM01zC3QKr8455QC1P6tMJHo0MI2c7HhFPsYdAm7JwIURy4rDmfFhW75FVrJDq1MXjl1P7wRTbPB0= <http://track.smtpsendemail.com/20919/c?p=mEN4eVi4P4uaAQ3LlbWhYqwh--_V9JdQrcimQm751bJETWuT2DL4LF2A7f_7l_QsoLlID1GL7RjpWTAsF_vIB_3Yuu66ArQMWI0EEiFSG9-KujGBz5QMe_MqPHC4ht2lLJtznQET0t35X4hSqJ-Oom0DYFfUf_pGtsTWKRCj3sg=>
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From rogerbunce at btinternet.com  Wed Oct  3 05:19:22 2018
From: rogerbunce at btinternet.com (ROGER BUNCE)
Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2018 10:19:22 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Tech1] Benny Hill
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An Uncle of mine played the harpsichord in that movie!
A similar seduction scene was recreated, less?successfully, in "The Thomas Crown Affair".
One of these days, we disorganised techies should get together and create our own, how-not-to-edit-a-movie sequence - every cut jumped, every frame jumped, every eyeline crossed, all looking-room reversed, continuity constantly lapsed, etc. Purely as a training aid - and for a laugh.
luv, Rog.?
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From graeme.wall at icloud.com  Wed Oct  3 06:02:53 2018
From: graeme.wall at icloud.com (Graeme Wall)
Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2018 12:02:53 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Benny Hill
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Unfortunately all you have to do is point them at any ?reality? programme!

Sent from my iPhone

> On 3 Oct 2018, at 11:19, ROGER BUNCE via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> An Uncle of mine played the harpsichord in that movie!
> 
> A similar seduction scene was recreated, less successfully, in "The Thomas Crown Affair".
> 
> One of these days, we disorganised techies should get together and create our own, how-not-to-edit-a-movie sequence - every cut jumped, every frame jumped, every eyeline crossed, all looking-room reversed, continuity constantly lapsed, etc. Purely as a training aid - and for a laugh.
> 
> luv, Rog. 
> 
> From: Bill Jenkin via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
> To: co. uk email group <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> 
> Sent: Tuesday, 2 October 2018, 9:33
> Subject: Re: [Tech1] Benny Hill
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> . . .  and to refresh your memory where the idea for that eating sequence came from . . .
> https://youtu.be/tezjznL9NzM
>  
> From: Tech1 [mailto:tech1-bounces at tech-ops.co.uk] On Behalf Of ROGER BUNCE via Tech1
> Sent: 30 September 2018 19:32
> To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
> Subject: [Tech1] Benny Hill
>  
> I remember seeing this Benny Hill how-not-to-edit-a-movie sketch when I was a youngster, and have just rediscovered it on YouTube. Those who worry about cross-eyelines and jump-cuts may not want to watch!
>  
> https://youtu.be/5SS4H-lbUL0
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From crew13 at vincent68.plus.com  Thu Oct  4 03:36:01 2018
From: crew13 at vincent68.plus.com (John Vincent)
Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2018 09:36:01 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Benny Hill
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And call it 'Acorn Antiques'?

JV


On 3 Oct 2018, at 11:19, ROGER BUNCE via Tech1 wrote:

> An Uncle of mine played the harpsichord in that movie!
> 
> A similar seduction scene was recreated, less successfully, in "The Thomas Crown Affair".
> 
> One of these days, we disorganised techies should get together and create our own, how-not-to-edit-a-movie sequence - every cut jumped, every frame jumped, every eyeline crossed, all looking-room reversed, continuity constantly lapsed, etc. Purely as a training aid - and for a laugh.
> 
> luv, Rog. 
> 
> From: Bill Jenkin via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
> To: co. uk email group <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> 
> Sent: Tuesday, 2 October 2018, 9:33
> Subject: Re: [Tech1] Benny Hill
> 
> . . .  and to refresh your memory where the idea for that eating sequence came from . . .
> https://youtu.be/tezjznL9NzM
>  
> From: Tech1 [mailto:tech1-bounces at tech-ops.co.uk] On Behalf Of ROGER BUNCE via Tech1
> Sent: 30 September 2018 19:32
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> Subject: [Tech1] Benny Hill
>  
> I remember seeing this Benny Hill how-not-to-edit-a-movie sketch when I was a youngster, and have just rediscovered it on YouTube. Those who worry about cross-eyelines and jump-cuts may not want to watch!
>  
> https://youtu.be/5SS4H-lbUL0
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From rogerbunce at btinternet.com  Thu Oct  4 06:44:39 2018
From: rogerbunce at btinternet.com (ROGER BUNCE)
Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2018 11:44:39 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Tech1] Benny Hill
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 How Dare You?
We didn't cross a single eyeline on "Acorn Antiques"! (He says, without bothering to check.) Some things are quite difficult to get wrong, when you're shooting multi-camera. Plenty of scope for other cock-ups, of course. But it's when shooting single-camera, filmic stuff that the Benny Hill style cock-ups become a possibility - as increasingly seen on our screens, and moaned about on this mailing list!
luv, Rog.

    On Thursday, 4 October 2018, 09:36:43 BST, John Vincent via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:  
 
 And call it 'Acorn Antiques'?
JV

On 3 Oct 2018, at 11:19, ROGER BUNCE via Tech1 wrote:

An Uncle of mine played the harpsichord in that movie!
A similar seduction scene was recreated, less?successfully, in "The Thomas Crown Affair".
One of these days, we disorganised techies should get together and create our own, how-not-to-edit-a-movie sequence - every cut jumped, every frame jumped, every eyeline crossed, all looking-room reversed, continuity constantly lapsed, etc. Purely as a training aid - and for a laugh.
luv, Rog.?
      From: Bill Jenkin via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
 To: co. uk email group <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> 
 Sent: Tuesday, 2 October 2018, 9:33
 Subject: Re: [Tech1] Benny Hill
  
 . . .? and to refresh your memory where the idea for that eating sequence came from . . .https://youtu.be/tezjznL9NzM  ?From: Tech1 [mailto:tech1-bounces at tech-ops.co.uk] On Behalf Of ROGER BUNCE via Tech1
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From grahamthecameraman at icloud.com  Thu Oct  4 07:19:31 2018
From: grahamthecameraman at icloud.com (Graham Maunder)
Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2018 13:19:31 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Benny Hill
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It was interesting when, many years ago, the lovely Geoff Posner asked me to shoot a ?Paul Calf Video Diary? special with Steve Coogan. These had to be shot 'as if by an amateur? so I was never really sure whether to be honoured to have been asked or not!!
Getting out of the habit of having the ?correct? looking room etc proved harder than you?d imagine along with not anticipating when people stood up etc. etc. and lighting it as if it wasn?t lit (if that makes sense).
By the end of the shoot it had become worryingly easy to put people in the centre of a frame with slightly dodgy headroom etc.
It obviously went well though (or my amateurish output was appreciated!!) as I got asked back to do the second special - ?Four Fights, Two Weddings and a Funeral?
Probably on YouTube nowadays somewhere?..

Won?t be around for the Disorganised next week but hope everyone has fun.

Cheers

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> On 4 Oct 2018, at 12:44, ROGER BUNCE via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> How Dare You?
> 
> We didn't cross a single eyeline on "Acorn Antiques"! (He says, without bothering to check.) Some things are quite difficult to get wrong, when you're shooting multi-camera. Plenty of scope for other cock-ups, of course. But it's when shooting single-camera, filmic stuff that the Benny Hill style cock-ups become a possibility - as increasingly seen on our screens, and moaned about on this mailing list!
> 
> luv, Rog.
> 
> 
> On Thursday, 4 October 2018, 09:36:43 BST, John Vincent via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> 
> And call it 'Acorn Antiques'?
> 
> JV
> 
> 
> On 3 Oct 2018, at 11:19, ROGER BUNCE via Tech1 wrote:
> 
>> An Uncle of mine played the harpsichord in that movie!
>> 
>> A similar seduction scene was recreated, less successfully, in "The Thomas Crown Affair".
>> 
>> One of these days, we disorganised techies should get together and create our own, how-not-to-edit-a-movie sequence - every cut jumped, every frame jumped, every eyeline crossed, all looking-room reversed, continuity constantly lapsed, etc. Purely as a training aid - and for a laugh.
>> 
>> luv, Rog. 
>> 
>> From: Bill Jenkin via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk <mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>>
>> To: co. uk email group <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk <mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>> 
>> Sent: Tuesday, 2 October 2018, 9:33
>> Subject: Re: [Tech1] Benny Hill
>> 
>> . . .  and to refresh your memory where the idea for that eating sequence came from . . .
>> https://youtu.be/tezjznL9NzM <https://youtu.be/tezjznL9NzM>
>>  
>> From: Tech1 [mailto:tech1-bounces at tech-ops.co.uk] On Behalf Of ROGER BUNCE via Tech1
>> Sent: 30 September 2018 19:32
>> To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk <mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
>> Subject: [Tech1] Benny Hill
>>  
>> I remember seeing this Benny Hill how-not-to-edit-a-movie sketch when I was a youngster, and have just rediscovered it on YouTube. Those who worry about cross-eyelines and jump-cuts may not want to watch!
>>  
>> https://youtu.be/5SS4H-lbUL0 <https://youtu.be/5SS4H-lbUL0>
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From ohbytheway.tv at gmail.com  Thu Oct  4 09:34:31 2018
From: ohbytheway.tv at gmail.com (David Denness)
Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2018 15:34:31 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Benny Hill
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And you?ve made a very successful career out of it Graham

Dave D

 

From: Tech1 <tech1-bounces at tech-ops.co.uk> On Behalf Of Graham Maunder via Tech1
Sent: 04 October 2018 13:20
To: ROGER BUNCE <rogerbunce at btinternet.com>
Cc: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
Subject: Re: [Tech1] Benny Hill

 

It was interesting when, many years ago, the lovely Geoff Posner asked me to shoot a ?Paul Calf Video Diary? special with Steve Coogan. These had to be shot 'as if by an amateur? so I was never really sure whether to be honoured to have been asked or not!!

Getting out of the habit of having the ?correct? looking room etc proved harder than you?d imagine along with not anticipating when people stood up etc. etc. and lighting it as if it wasn?t lit (if that makes sense).

By the end of the shoot it had become worryingly easy to put people in the centre of a frame with slightly dodgy headroom etc.

It obviously went well though (or my amateurish output was appreciated!!) as I got asked back to do the second special - ?Four Fights, Two Weddings and a Funeral?

Probably on YouTube nowadays somewhere?..

 

Won?t be around for the Disorganised next week but hope everyone has fun.

 

Cheers

 

Graham Maunder


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On 4 Oct 2018, at 12:44, ROGER BUNCE via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk <mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> > wrote:

 

How Dare You?

 

We didn't cross a single eyeline on "Acorn Antiques"! (He says, without bothering to check.) Some things are quite difficult to get wrong, when you're shooting multi-camera. Plenty of scope for other cock-ups, of course. But it's when shooting single-camera, filmic stuff that the Benny Hill style cock-ups become a possibility - as increasingly seen on our screens, and moaned about on this mailing list!

 

luv, Rog.

 

 

On Thursday, 4 October 2018, 09:36:43 BST, John Vincent via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk <mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> > wrote: 

 

 

And call it 'Acorn Antiques'?

 

JV

 

 

On 3 Oct 2018, at 11:19, ROGER BUNCE via Tech1 wrote:





An Uncle of mine played the harpsichord in that movie!

 

A similar seduction scene was recreated, less successfully, in "The Thomas Crown Affair".

 

One of these days, we disorganised techies should get together and create our own, how-not-to-edit-a-movie sequence - every cut jumped, every frame jumped, every eyeline crossed, all looking-room reversed, continuity constantly lapsed, etc. Purely as a training aid - and for a laugh.

 

luv, Rog. 

 


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To: co. uk email group <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk <mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> > 
Sent: Tuesday, 2 October 2018, 9:33
Subject: Re: [Tech1] Benny Hill

 

. . .  and to refresh your memory where the idea for that eating sequence came from . . .

https://youtu.be/tezjznL9NzM 

 

From: Tech1 [mailto:tech1-bounces at tech-ops.co.uk] On Behalf Of ROGER BUNCE via Tech1
Sent: 30 September 2018 19:32
To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk <mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> 
Subject: [Tech1] Benny Hill

 

I remember seeing this Benny Hill how-not-to-edit-a-movie sketch when I was a youngster, and have just rediscovered it on YouTube. Those who worry about cross-eyelines and jump-cuts may not want to watch!

 

https://youtu.be/5SS4H-lbUL0

 

luv, Rog.

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From rogerbunce at btinternet.com  Thu Oct  4 13:54:25 2018
From: rogerbunce at btinternet.com (ROGER BUNCE)
Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2018 18:54:25 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Tech1] Benny Hill
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 I had a similar experience, doing a shoot with 'John Shuttleworth', in which I was standing in for his unseen friend - and amateur-night cameraman - Ken Worthington. It was all supposed to be misframed wobblivision. At one point there was a "Look at that!" moment, followed by a wobbly whip-pan around and a wobbly crash-zoom in. I thought I had done it with an adequate amount of wobbliness and incompetence. Only when I saw it back did I notice that, in the transition from wobbly pan to wobbly zoom, I had held the pivot! Aaargh! Some habits are just too difficult to break.
luv, Rog.
    On Thursday, 4 October 2018, 13:19:36 BST, Graham Maunder <grahamthecameraman at icloud.com> wrote:  
 
 It was interesting when, many years ago, the lovely Geoff Posner asked me to shoot a ?Paul Calf Video Diary? special with Steve Coogan. These had to be shot 'as if by an amateur? so I was never really sure whether to be honoured to have been asked or not!!Getting out of the habit of having the ?correct? looking room etc proved harder than you?d imagine along with not anticipating when people stood up etc. etc. and lighting it as if it wasn?t lit (if that makes sense).By the end of the shoot it had become worryingly easy to put people in the centre of a frame with slightly dodgy headroom etc.It obviously went well though (or my amateurish output was appreciated!!) as I got asked back to do the second special - ?Four Fights, Two Weddings and a Funeral?Probably on YouTube nowadays somewhere?..
Won?t be around for the Disorganised next week but hope everyone has fun.
Cheers
Graham Maunder
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Tel: 07000 345678 Mobile: 07831 515678 Visit Us: awfullynicevideo.com |



On 4 Oct 2018, at 12:44, ROGER BUNCE via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
 How Dare You?
We didn't cross a single eyeline on "Acorn Antiques"! (He says, without bothering to check.) Some things are quite difficult to get wrong, when you're shooting multi-camera. Plenty of scope for other cock-ups, of course. But it's when shooting single-camera, filmic stuff that the Benny Hill style cock-ups become a possibility - as increasingly seen on our screens, and moaned about on this mailing list!
luv, Rog.

    On Thursday, 4 October 2018, 09:36:43 BST, John Vincent via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:  
 
 And call it 'Acorn Antiques'?
JV

On 3 Oct 2018, at 11:19, ROGER BUNCE via Tech1 wrote:

An Uncle of mine played the harpsichord in that movie!
A similar seduction scene was recreated, less?successfully, in "The Thomas Crown Affair".
One of these days, we disorganised techies should get together and create our own, how-not-to-edit-a-movie sequence - every cut jumped, every frame jumped, every eyeline crossed, all looking-room reversed, continuity constantly lapsed, etc. Purely as a training aid - and for a laugh.
luv, Rog.?
      From: Bill Jenkin via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
 To: co. uk email group <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> 
 Sent: Tuesday, 2 October 2018, 9:33
 Subject: Re: [Tech1] Benny Hill
  
 . . .? and to refresh your memory where the idea for that eating sequence came from . . .https://youtu.be/tezjznL9NzM  ?From: Tech1 [mailto:tech1-bounces at tech-ops.co.uk] On Behalf Of ROGER BUNCE via Tech1
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From davewagner at gmx.com  Thu Oct  4 17:22:36 2018
From: davewagner at gmx.com (David Wagner)
Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2018 23:22:36 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Benny Hill
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Just think if you were on cymbals (crash, oops)  in an orchestra (like a gram Op). Been there, Done that, Oops)

 

 

From: Tech1 [mailto:tech1-bounces at tech-ops.co.uk] On Behalf Of ROGER BUNCE via Tech1
Sent: 04 October 2018 19:54
To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
Subject: Re: [Tech1] Benny Hill

 

I had a similar experience, doing a shoot with 'John Shuttleworth', in which I was standing in for his unseen friend - and amateur-night cameraman - Ken Worthington. It was all supposed to be misframed wobblivision. At one point there was a "Look at that!" moment, followed by a wobbly whip-pan around and a wobbly crash-zoom in. I thought I had done it with an adequate amount of wobbliness and incompetence. Only when I saw it back did I notice that, in the transition from wobbly pan to wobbly zoom, I had held the pivot! Aaargh! Some habits are just too difficult to break.

 

luv, Rog.

 

On Thursday, 4 October 2018, 13:19:36 BST, Graham Maunder <grahamthecameraman at icloud.com> wrote: 

 

 

It was interesting when, many years ago, the lovely Geoff Posner asked me to shoot a ?Paul Calf Video Diary? special with Steve Coogan. These had to be shot 'as if by an amateur? so I was never really sure whether to be honoured to have been asked or not!!

Getting out of the habit of having the ?correct? looking room etc proved harder than you?d imagine along with not anticipating when people stood up etc. etc. and lighting it as if it wasn?t lit (if that makes sense).

By the end of the shoot it had become worryingly easy to put people in the centre of a frame with slightly dodgy headroom etc.

It obviously went well though (or my amateurish output was appreciated!!) as I got asked back to do the second special - ?Four Fights, Two Weddings and a Funeral?

Probably on YouTube nowadays somewhere?..

 

Won?t be around for the Disorganised next week but hope everyone has fun.

 

Cheers

 

Graham Maunder


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On 4 Oct 2018, at 12:44, ROGER BUNCE via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:

 

How Dare You?

 

We didn't cross a single eyeline on "Acorn Antiques"! (He says, without bothering to check.) Some things are quite difficult to get wrong, when you're shooting multi-camera. Plenty of scope for other cock-ups, of course. But it's when shooting single-camera, filmic stuff that the Benny Hill style cock-ups become a possibility - as increasingly seen on our screens, and moaned about on this mailing list!

 

luv, Rog.

 

 

On Thursday, 4 October 2018, 09:36:43 BST, John Vincent via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote: 

 

 

And call it 'Acorn Antiques'?

 

JV

 

 

On 3 Oct 2018, at 11:19, ROGER BUNCE via Tech1 wrote:





An Uncle of mine played the harpsichord in that movie!

 

A similar seduction scene was recreated, less successfully, in "The Thomas Crown Affair".

 

One of these days, we disorganised techies should get together and create our own, how-not-to-edit-a-movie sequence - every cut jumped, every frame jumped, every eyeline crossed, all looking-room reversed, continuity constantly lapsed, etc. Purely as a training aid - and for a laugh.

 

luv, Rog. 

 


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From: Bill Jenkin via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
To: co. uk email group <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> 
Sent: Tuesday, 2 October 2018, 9:33
Subject: Re: [Tech1] Benny Hill

 

. . .  and to refresh your memory where the idea for that eating sequence came from . . .

https://youtu.be/tezjznL9NzM 

 

From: Tech1 [mailto:tech1-bounces at tech-ops.co.uk] On Behalf Of ROGER BUNCE via Tech1
Sent: 30 September 2018 19:32
To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
Subject: [Tech1] Benny Hill

 

I remember seeing this Benny Hill how-not-to-edit-a-movie sketch when I was a youngster, and have just rediscovered it on YouTube. Those who worry about cross-eyelines and jump-cuts may not want to watch!

 

https://youtu.be/5SS4H-lbUL0

 

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From crew13 at vincent68.plus.com  Fri Oct  5 01:57:41 2018
From: crew13 at vincent68.plus.com (John Vincent)
Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2018 07:57:41 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Benny Hill
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On a 'French and Saunders' I had to be a hand held cameraman who got shot and fell to the floor.. A bit of wobbly stuff, camera to floor and tips over slowly. It got a laugh!

JV


On 4 Oct 2018, at 23:22, David Wagner via Tech1 wrote:

> Just think if you were on cymbals (crash, oops)  in an orchestra (like a gram Op). Been there, Done that, Oops)
>  
>  
> From: Tech1 [mailto:tech1-bounces at tech-ops.co.uk] On Behalf Of ROGER BUNCE via Tech1
> Sent: 04 October 2018 19:54
> To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
> Subject: Re: [Tech1] Benny Hill
>  
> I had a similar experience, doing a shoot with 'John Shuttleworth', in which I was standing in for his unseen friend - and amateur-night cameraman - Ken Worthington. It was all supposed to be misframed wobblivision. At one point there was a "Look at that!" moment, followed by a wobbly whip-pan around and a wobbly crash-zoom in. I thought I had done it with an adequate amount of wobbliness and incompetence. Only when I saw it back did I notice that, in the transition from wobbly pan to wobbly zoom, I had held the pivot! Aaargh! Some habits are just too difficult to break.
>  
> luv, Rog.
>  
> On Thursday, 4 October 2018, 13:19:36 BST, Graham Maunder <grahamthecameraman at icloud.com> wrote:
>  
>  
> It was interesting when, many years ago, the lovely Geoff Posner asked me to shoot a ?Paul Calf Video Diary? special with Steve Coogan. These had to be shot 'as if by an amateur? so I was never really sure whether to be honoured to have been asked or not!!
> Getting out of the habit of having the ?correct? looking room etc proved harder than you?d imagine along with not anticipating when people stood up etc. etc. and lighting it as if it wasn?t lit (if that makes sense).
> By the end of the shoot it had become worryingly easy to put people in the centre of a frame with slightly dodgy headroom etc.
> It obviously went well though (or my amateurish output was appreciated!!) as I got asked back to do the second special - ?Four Fights, Two Weddings and a Funeral?
> Probably on YouTube nowadays somewhere?..
>  
> Won?t be around for the Disorganised next week but hope everyone has fun.
>  
> Cheers
>  
> Graham Maunder
> <~WRD000.jpg>
> Awfully Nice Video . 30 Long Lane . Ickenham . London . UB10 8TA
> Tel: 07000 345678 Mobile: 07831 515678 Visit Us:awfullynicevideo.com
>  
> On 4 Oct 2018, at 12:44, ROGER BUNCE via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
>  
> How Dare You?
>  
> We didn't cross a single eyeline on "Acorn Antiques"! (He says, without bothering to check.) Some things are quite difficult to get wrong, when you're shooting multi-camera. Plenty of scope for other cock-ups, of course. But it's when shooting single-camera, filmic stuff that the Benny Hill style cock-ups become a possibility - as increasingly seen on our screens, and moaned about on this mailing list!
>  
> luv, Rog.
>  
>  
> On Thursday, 4 October 2018, 09:36:43 BST, John Vincent via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
>  
>  
> And call it 'Acorn Antiques'?
>  
> JV
>  
>  
> On 3 Oct 2018, at 11:19, ROGER BUNCE via Tech1 wrote:
> 
> 
> An Uncle of mine played the harpsichord in that movie!
>  
> A similar seduction scene was recreated, less successfully, in "The Thomas Crown Affair".
>  
> One of these days, we disorganised techies should get together and create our own, how-not-to-edit-a-movie sequence - every cut jumped, every frame jumped, every eyeline crossed, all looking-room reversed, continuity constantly lapsed, etc. Purely as a training aid - and for a laugh.
>  
> luv, Rog. 
>  
> From: Bill Jenkin via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
> To: co. uk email group <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> 
> Sent: Tuesday, 2 October 2018, 9:33
> Subject: Re: [Tech1] Benny Hill
>  
> . . .  and to refresh your memory where the idea for that eating sequence came from . . .
> https://youtu.be/tezjznL9NzM
>  
> From: Tech1 [mailto:tech1-bounces at tech-ops.co.uk] On Behalf Of ROGER BUNCE via Tech1
> Sent: 30 September 2018 19:32
> To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
> Subject: [Tech1] Benny Hill
>  
> I remember seeing this Benny Hill how-not-to-edit-a-movie sketch when I was a youngster, and have just rediscovered it on YouTube. Those who worry about cross-eyelines and jump-cuts may not want to watch!
>  
> https://youtu.be/5SS4H-lbUL0
>  
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From jpn at imixmics.co.uk  Fri Oct  5 02:32:27 2018
From: jpn at imixmics.co.uk (John Nottage)
Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2018 08:32:27 +0100 (BST)
Subject: [Tech1] Woolly MIc
Message-ID: <474720904.40628.1538724747408@email.1and1.co.uk>

Why does Zoe Ball's mic on "It takes 2" sound like it's wrapped in cotton wool? Guests sound ok.

John


From patheigham at amps.net  Fri Oct  5 13:44:05 2018
From: patheigham at amps.net (patheigham)
Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2018 19:44:05 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Woolly MIc
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After John?s e-mail, I took a listen at tonight?s broadcast.
Zoe?s mic sounded OK, however one of the guests, a male of colour had his mic tucked under his chin on the collar of the sweater.
Not a great position. I would have mounted it under the sweater, lower down, with some top lift to remedy the woollen
material.
Regards
Pat


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From: John Nottage via Tech1
Sent: 05 October 2018 08:32
To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
Subject: [Tech1] Woolly MIc

Why does Zoe Ball's mic on "It takes 2" sound like it's wrapped in cotton wool? Guests sound ok.

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From hughsheppard at btinternet.com  Sat Oct  6 11:43:29 2018
From: hughsheppard at btinternet.com (Hugh Sheppard)
Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2018 17:43:29 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] To 4k or not to 4k?
Message-ID: <36ea9ffc-ee1f-ed00-168d-8551b26518bf@btinternet.com>

In recent years I've always bought our main TV with a 100Hz refresh 
rate, but it seems that cheaper, smallish sets still persist with 50Hz.? 
Would I really notice the difference as someone who mainly watches the 
broadcast channels + catch-up, and who rarely tunes to movies?

Then there's screen-size and definition. While we're ready to go up from 
the current 32" Sony receiver to a 43" screen size, would having 4k 
definition mean much, if anything at all?? Reviews of most 4k sets under 
?450 are often critical of reduced picture quality for Standard 
Definition broadcasts and there still seems to be a lot of that around. 
BBC South for example isn't even in HD yet.

Toshiba and LG sets with 4k and a 50Hz refresh rate are available at 
under ?350, but for Sony or Panasonic I'd need to add ?100.? I really 
like Freeview Play on a small workroom tv, so I'd want to have that.? No 
doubt I could get a Sony or Panasonic without 4k but with a better 
refresh rate for quite a bit less.

Any experience of 4k on less than a 50" set out there? Is it worth it?? 
Do please tell!

Hugh




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From bernie833 at gmail.com  Sat Oct  6 12:10:20 2018
From: bernie833 at gmail.com (Bernard Newnham)
Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2018 18:10:20 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] To 4k or not to 4k?
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I'm currently watching the first Dad's Army on BBC2. 4:3 on my 24" TV.
Still very funny

On Sat, 6 Oct 2018, 17:43 Hugh Sheppard via Tech1, <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
wrote:

> In recent years I've always bought our main TV with a 100Hz refresh rate,
> but it seems that cheaper, smallish sets still persist with 50Hz.  Would I
> really notice the difference as someone who mainly watches the broadcast
> channels + catch-up, and who rarely tunes to movies?
>
> Then there's screen-size and definition. While we're ready to go up from
> the current 32" Sony receiver to a 43" screen size, would having 4k
> definition mean much, if anything at all?  Reviews of most 4k sets under
> ?450 are often critical of reduced picture quality for Standard Definition
> broadcasts and there still seems to be a lot of that around. BBC South for
> example isn't even in HD yet.
>
> Toshiba and LG sets with 4k and a 50Hz refresh rate are available at under
> ?350, but for Sony or Panasonic I'd need to add ?100.  I really like
> Freeview Play on a small workroom tv, so I'd want to have that.  No doubt I
> could get a Sony or Panasonic without 4k but with a better refresh rate for
> quite a bit less.
>
> Any experience of 4k on less than a 50" set out there? Is it worth it?  Do
> please tell!
>
> Hugh
>
>
>
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From pat.heigham at btinternet.com  Sat Oct  6 14:16:45 2018
From: pat.heigham at btinternet.com (patheigham)
Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2018 20:16:45 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] To 4k or not to 4k?
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My sitting room set is an older model Sony 32?
Fed via a DVD recorder as a tuner which is not Hi-Def!
At normal viewing distance it looks OK, as Hi-Def
generated pics seem to be pretty good.
For this size screen I see no inclination to upgrade
to a 4K set.
Obviously a larger screen size requires a higher
resolution.
I frequently run film shows for friends in their houses,
usually employing a 6 foot (horizontal) projection screen
from a Panasonic projector which will handle Hi-Def
off BluRay discs. Sometimes if it?s in a village hall,
I can use a 9 foot screen, but the controlling point 
is always the viewing distance.

Best
Pat


Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Bernard Newnham via Tech1
Sent: 06 October 2018 18:10
To: Hugh Sheppard
Cc: Tech1 at tech-ops
Subject: Re: [Tech1] To 4k or not to 4k?

I'm currently watching the first Dad's Army on BBC2. 4:3 on my 24" TV. Still very funny?

On Sat, 6 Oct 2018, 17:43 Hugh Sheppard via Tech1, <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
In recent years I've always bought our main TV with a 100Hz refresh rate, but it seems that cheaper, smallish sets still persist with 50Hz.? Would I really notice the difference as someone who mainly watches the broadcast channels + catch-up, and who rarely tunes to movies?
Then there's screen-size and definition. While we're ready to go up from the current 32" Sony receiver to a 43" screen size, would having 4k definition mean much, if anything at all?? Reviews of most 4k sets under ?450 are often critical of reduced picture quality for Standard Definition broadcasts and there still seems to be a lot of that around. BBC South for example isn't even in HD yet.? 
Toshiba and LG sets with 4k and a 50Hz refresh rate are available at under ?350, but for Sony or Panasonic I'd need to add ?100.? I really like Freeview Play on a small workroom tv, so I'd want to have that.? No doubt I could get a Sony or Panasonic without 4k but with a better refresh rate for quite a bit less. 
Any experience of 4k on less than a 50" set out there? Is it worth it?? Do please tell!
Hugh



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From bernie833 at gmail.com  Sat Oct  6 15:47:09 2018
From: bernie833 at gmail.com (Bernard Newnham)
Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2018 21:47:09 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] To 4k or not to 4k?
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A more reasoned reply that my last, which was from the phone whilst 
watching the telly -

Having been a big time early adopter and technical innovator in the 
past, I seem to have reached a sort of plateau in buying gear. I take 
pictures on the phone whist the Nikon sits on the shelf. I used to 
update the PC about every 18 months, but this version, with it's SSD and 
GeForce 960, seems "good enough". I can afford to build a new one, but 
it runs Call of Duty WW2, or two screens running various videos, or HD 
editing on (free) Da Vinci Resolve - so what's the point in upgrading?

And with TVs - I'm more likely to be sitting here at the computer with - 
in this case - TOTP2 on the left screen, whilst typing an email on the 
right one.? You sit on a train, or an aeroplane, and next to you is 
someone - my 24 year old son maybe - who is watching his 6" phone 
screen, and laughing and enjoying whatever.? Which is a long way of 
saying that I think the sound and picture technical quality is mostly 
good enough now. The manufacturers want you to buy newer, bigger, 
flashier, obviously, but really, really really? - does it add anything 
significant any more?? For years I've taught students that story is all 
- you can be the world's greatest cameraman with ten Oscars, but if the 
story is rubbish... Click, and I've changed channels.

A 4k TV with 3840???2160 pixels only has 1920?1080 pixels incoming 
(apart from a Sky channel, I believe), and if it's SD only 720x576. 
Everything else has to be done by interpolation - computer invented 
pixels in the TV.? Does the story get any better (he said as he watched 
Hendrix from the Lulu Show 1968 (405 lines 4:3 monochrome - I was 
there)) if you have a bigger screen?? It's all about subtended angle 
really. It's ok sitting in a Imax cinema for a couple of hours watching 
something in Stereo Supermarionation, but wobbling your head from side 
to side to watch the news is just too much, so you sit further away.

And so I leave to the sound and vision from the Christmas 1967 TOTP 
version of A Whiter Shade of Pale - I was there too.

B





On 06/10/2018 20:16, patheigham wrote:
>
> My sitting room set is an older model Sony 32?
>
> Fed via a DVD recorder as a tuner which is not Hi-Def!
>
> At normal viewing distance it looks OK, as Hi-Def
>
> generated pics seem to be pretty good.
>
> For this size screen I see no inclination to upgrade
>
> to a 4K set.
>
> Obviously a larger screen size requires a higher
>
> resolution.
>
> I frequently run film shows for friends in their houses,
>
> usually employing a 6 foot (horizontal) projection screen
>
> from a Panasonic projector which will handle Hi-Def
>
> off BluRay discs. Sometimes if it?s in a village hall,
>
> I can use a 9 foot screen, but the controlling point
>
> is always the viewing distance.
>
> Best
>
> Pat
>
> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for 
> Windows 10
>
> *From: *Bernard Newnham via Tech1 <mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
> *Sent: *06 October 2018 18:10
> *To: *Hugh Sheppard <mailto:hughsheppard at btinternet.com>
> *Cc: *Tech1 at tech-ops <mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
> *Subject: *Re: [Tech1] To 4k or not to 4k?
>
> I'm currently watching the first Dad's Army on BBC2. 4:3 on my 24" TV. 
> Still very funny
>
> On Sat, 6 Oct 2018, 17:43 Hugh Sheppard via Tech1, 
> <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk <mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>> wrote:
>
>     In recent years I've always bought our main TV with a 100Hz
>     refresh rate, but it seems that cheaper, smallish sets still
>     persist with 50Hz.? Would I really notice the difference as
>     someone who mainly watches the broadcast channels + catch-up, and
>     who rarely tunes to movies?
>
>     Then there's screen-size and definition. While we're ready to go
>     up from the current 32" Sony receiver to a 43" screen size, would
>     having 4k definition mean much, if anything at all?? Reviews of
>     most 4k sets under ?450 are often critical of reduced picture
>     quality for Standard Definition broadcasts and there still seems
>     to be a lot of that around. BBC South for example isn't even in HD
>     yet.
>
>     Toshiba and LG sets with 4k and a 50Hz refresh rate are available
>     at under ?350, but for Sony or Panasonic I'd need to add ?100.? I
>     really like Freeview Play on a small workroom tv, so I'd want to
>     have that.? No doubt I could get a Sony or Panasonic without 4k
>     but with a better refresh rate for quite a bit less.
>
>     Any experience of 4k on less than a 50" set out there? Is it worth
>     it?? Do please tell!
>
>     Hugh
>
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From bernie833 at gmail.com  Sun Oct  7 05:40:12 2018
From: bernie833 at gmail.com (Bernard Newnham)
Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2018 11:40:12 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Here's an oddity....
Message-ID: <4fa72d5b-fe43-7e85-3311-efd14287729c@gmail.com>

I was watching TOTP2 whilst writing last night.

If you type "Get off of my Cloud" into YouTube you will find multiple 
copies of the TOTP recording, with added subtitles.? What you won't get 
is the original version, which is a little different.Here's an off 
screen clip. There's a shot in it which isn't in the YouTube version. Do 
you recognise anyone? (46Mb, so let it download first)

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From j at howell61.f9.co.uk  Sun Oct  7 05:54:33 2018
From: j at howell61.f9.co.uk (John Howell)
Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2018 11:54:33 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Here's an oddity....
In-Reply-To: <4fa72d5b-fe43-7e85-3311-efd14287729c@gmail.com>
References: <4fa72d5b-fe43-7e85-3311-efd14287729c@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8c471a17-9cf8-a8e4-e076-8eba22833902@howell61.f9.co.uk>

Link?

J.



n 07/10/2018 11:40, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 wrote:
> I was watching TOTP2 whilst writing last night.
>
> If you type "Get off of my Cloud" into YouTube you will find multiple 
> copies of the TOTP recording, with added subtitles.? What you won't 
> get is the original version, which is a little different.Here's an off 
> screen clip. There's a shot in it which isn't in the YouTube version. 
> Do you recognise anyone? (46Mb, so let it download first)
>
> B
>
>
>
>

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From bernie833 at gmail.com  Sun Oct  7 06:05:37 2018
From: bernie833 at gmail.com (Bernard Newnham)
Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2018 12:05:37 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Here's an oddity....
In-Reply-To: <8c471a17-9cf8-a8e4-e076-8eba22833902@howell61.f9.co.uk>
References: <4fa72d5b-fe43-7e85-3311-efd14287729c@gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <38cea3d8-3b98-90e5-dddd-057505d219b2@ntlworld.com>

Stupid me!!!

http://www.tech-ops.co.uk/bern/stones1.mp4

B



On 07/10/2018 11:54, John Howell via Tech1 wrote:
>
> Link?
>
> J.
>
>
>
> n 07/10/2018 11:40, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 wrote:
>> I was watching TOTP2 whilst writing last night.
>>
>> If you type "Get off of my Cloud" into YouTube you will find multiple 
>> copies of the TOTP recording, with added subtitles.? What you won't 
>> get is the original version, which is a little different.Here's an 
>> off screen clip. There's a shot in it which isn't in the YouTube 
>> version. Do you recognise anyone?? (46Mb, so let it download first)
>>
>> B
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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From jpn at imixmics.co.uk  Sun Oct  7 06:47:56 2018
From: jpn at imixmics.co.uk (John Nottage)
Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2018 12:47:56 +0100 (BST)
Subject: [Tech1] To 4k or not to 4k?
In-Reply-To: <747f67ea-5e6e-8bc1-d8b4-e84f132e9276@gmail.com>
References: <36ea9ffc-ee1f-ed00-168d-8551b26518bf@btinternet.com>
	<CAA7MLyHQ1GQCAMO=LMcYPQvC8JyVy2H9_CnhZZrBjJBR+NzsvQ@mail.gmail.com>
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I have a 32" Panasonic HD TV & a Panasonic Bluray/HDD HD recorder. Until the retune in June we watched & recorded in HD. It was better than SD, but not so obvious on 32". However, since the big retune, the HD multiplexes are now unwatchable as they're too unreliable, so we have to stick to SD. Not much point in going to 4K if we can't even get decent HD!

If we had the space (which we haven't), I would like to get a slightly bigger set: so many dramas these days have a plot involving text messages on a tiny mobile phone screen & you're expected to be able to read it in seconds! Luckily we record most programmes so we can pause, walk over to the tv & read. Do the programme makers work on huge TVs? They don't allow for average viewers with normal sized sets.

John

> On 06 October 2018 at 21:47 Bernard Newnham via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> 
> A more reasoned reply that my last, which was from the phone whilst 
> watching the telly -
> 
> Having been a big time early adopter and technical innovator in the 
> past, I seem to have reached a sort of plateau in buying gear. I take 
> pictures on the phone whist the Nikon sits on the shelf. I used to 
> update the PC about every 18 months, but this version, with it's SSD and 
> GeForce 960, seems "good enough". I can afford to build a new one, but 
> it runs Call of Duty WW2, or two screens running various videos, or HD 
> editing on (free) Da Vinci Resolve - so what's the point in upgrading?
> 
> And with TVs - I'm more likely to be sitting here at the computer with - 
> in this case - TOTP2 on the left screen, whilst typing an email on the 
> right one.? You sit on a train, or an aeroplane, and next to you is 
> someone - my 24 year old son maybe - who is watching his 6" phone 
> screen, and laughing and enjoying whatever.? Which is a long way of 
> saying that I think the sound and picture technical quality is mostly 
> good enough now. The manufacturers want you to buy newer, bigger, 
> flashier, obviously, but really, really really? - does it add anything 
> significant any more?? For years I've taught students that story is all 
> - you can be the world's greatest cameraman with ten Oscars, but if the 
> story is rubbish... Click, and I've changed channels.
> 
> A 4k TV with 3840???2160 pixels only has 1920?1080 pixels incoming 
> (apart from a Sky channel, I believe), and if it's SD only 720x576. 
> Everything else has to be done by interpolation - computer invented 
> pixels in the TV.? Does the story get any better (he said as he watched 
> Hendrix from the Lulu Show 1968 (405 lines 4:3 monochrome - I was 
> there)) if you have a bigger screen?? It's all about subtended angle 
> really. It's ok sitting in a Imax cinema for a couple of hours watching 
> something in Stereo Supermarionation, but wobbling your head from side 
> to side to watch the news is just too much, so you sit further away.
> 
> And so I leave to the sound and vision from the Christmas 1967 TOTP 
> version of A Whiter Shade of Pale - I was there too.
> 
> B
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 06/10/2018 20:16, patheigham wrote:
> >
> > My sitting room set is an older model Sony 32?
> >
> > Fed via a DVD recorder as a tuner which is not Hi-Def!
> >
> > At normal viewing distance it looks OK, as Hi-Def
> >
> > generated pics seem to be pretty good.
> >
> > For this size screen I see no inclination to upgrade
> >
> > to a 4K set.
> >
> > Obviously a larger screen size requires a higher
> >
> > resolution.
> >
> > I frequently run film shows for friends in their houses,
> >
> > usually employing a 6 foot (horizontal) projection screen
> >
> > from a Panasonic projector which will handle Hi-Def
> >
> > off BluRay discs. Sometimes if it?s in a village hall,
> >
> > I can use a 9 foot screen, but the controlling point
> >
> > is always the viewing distance.
> >
> > Best
> >
> > Pat
> >
> > Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for 
> > Windows 10
> >
> > *From: *Bernard Newnham via Tech1 <mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
> > *Sent: *06 October 2018 18:10
> > *To: *Hugh Sheppard <mailto:hughsheppard at btinternet.com>
> > *Cc: *Tech1 at tech-ops <mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
> > *Subject: *Re: [Tech1] To 4k or not to 4k?
> >
> > I'm currently watching the first Dad's Army on BBC2. 4:3 on my 24" TV. 
> > Still very funny
> >
> > On Sat, 6 Oct 2018, 17:43 Hugh Sheppard via Tech1, 
> > <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk <mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>> wrote:
> >
> >     In recent years I've always bought our main TV with a 100Hz
> >     refresh rate, but it seems that cheaper, smallish sets still
> >     persist with 50Hz.? Would I really notice the difference as
> >     someone who mainly watches the broadcast channels + catch-up, and
> >     who rarely tunes to movies?
> >
> >     Then there's screen-size and definition. While we're ready to go
> >     up from the current 32" Sony receiver to a 43" screen size, would
> >     having 4k definition mean much, if anything at all?? Reviews of
> >     most 4k sets under ?450 are often critical of reduced picture
> >     quality for Standard Definition broadcasts and there still seems
> >     to be a lot of that around. BBC South for example isn't even in HD
> >     yet.
> >
> >     Toshiba and LG sets with 4k and a 50Hz refresh rate are available
> >     at under ?350, but for Sony or Panasonic I'd need to add ?100.? I
> >     really like Freeview Play on a small workroom tv, so I'd want to
> >     have that.? No doubt I could get a Sony or Panasonic without 4k
> >     but with a better refresh rate for quite a bit less.
> >
> >     Any experience of 4k on less than a 50" set out there? Is it worth
> >     it?? Do please tell!
> >
> >     Hugh
> >
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From j at howell61.f9.co.uk  Sun Oct  7 07:50:43 2018
From: j at howell61.f9.co.uk (John Howell)
Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2018 13:50:43 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Here's an oddity....
In-Reply-To: <38cea3d8-3b98-90e5-dddd-057505d219b2@ntlworld.com>
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Thanks but I don't recognise anyone, sorry.

They're all wearing ties!

John.



On 07/10/2018 12:05, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 wrote:
> Stupid me!!!
>
> http://www.tech-ops.co.uk/bern/stones1.mp4
>
> B
>
>
>
> On 07/10/2018 11:54, John Howell via Tech1 wrote:
>>
>> Link?
>>
>> J.
>>
>>
>>
>> n 07/10/2018 11:40, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 wrote:
>>> I was watching TOTP2 whilst writing last night.
>>>
>>> If you type "Get off of my Cloud" into YouTube you will find 
>>> multiple copies of the TOTP recording, with added subtitles.? What 
>>> you won't get is the original version, which is a little 
>>> different.Here's an off screen clip. There's a shot in it which 
>>> isn't in the YouTube version. Do you recognise anyone?? (46Mb, so 
>>> let it download first)
>>>
>>> B
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>

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From waresound at msn.com  Sun Oct  7 13:22:48 2018
From: waresound at msn.com (Nick Ware)
Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2018 18:22:48 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Dr Who
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Dr Who - well OK great, but why is it not 16x9?
My tellies are all 16x9.
Is yours?
Yeah, I thought so.
Is anyone?s not 16x9?
No, I thought not.
So what does slitty-vision bring to the party?
Daft I call it.
Nick.

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From geoffletch at gmail.com  Sun Oct  7 15:30:30 2018
From: geoffletch at gmail.com (Geoff Fletcher)
Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2018 21:30:30 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Dr Who
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Never mind all that Nick - did tha like her Yorkshire accent lad?
Geoff F?

On Sun, 7 Oct 2018 at 19:23, Nick Ware via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
wrote:

> Dr Who - well OK great, but why is it not 16x9?
> My tellies are all 16x9.
> Is yours?
> Yeah, I thought so.
> Is anyone?s not 16x9?
> No, I thought not.
> So what does slitty-vision bring to the party?
> Daft I call it.
> Nick.
>
> Sent from my iPad
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From Waresound at msn.com  Sun Oct  7 16:07:39 2018
From: Waresound at msn.com (Nick Ware)
Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2018 21:07:39 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Dr Who
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I did. I never thought I?d want to cuddle a Dr Who until today!
My Mum was Yorkshire, so I?m on home ground with that.
Don?t know what Willliam Hartnell would have made of all that CGI and bally-hoo though. Dr Who has evolved somewhat, but he would know that of course, because he?s seen the future.
Great pictures too, and superb sound with music not too loud for a change.
Nick.

Sent from my iPad

On 7 Oct 2018, at 21:30, Geoff Fletcher <geoffletch at gmail.com<mailto:geoffletch at gmail.com>> wrote:

Never mind all that Nick - did tha like her Yorkshire accent lad?
Geoff F?

On Sun, 7 Oct 2018 at 19:23, Nick Ware via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk<mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>> wrote:
Dr Who - well OK great, but why is it not 16x9?
My tellies are all 16x9.
Is yours?
Yeah, I thought so.
Is anyone?s not 16x9?
No, I thought not.
So what does slitty-vision bring to the party?
Daft I call it.
Nick.

Sent from my iPad
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From rogerbunce at btinternet.com  Mon Oct  8 01:50:11 2018
From: rogerbunce at btinternet.com (ROGER BUNCE)
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2018 06:50:11 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Tech1] Dr Who
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 NOOOO!?The Doctor is supposed to be an Alien - from another planet - she would have learned English-as-a-Foreign-Language, i.e. Received English. (or American English, which would be completely unacceptable! Can't have the Doctor talking about "Train Stations", even if BBC Journos do.) If she'd crash-landed in Yorkshire, completely lost he memory and had to relearn her whole language - that might have been acceptable. But this is the second Northern Doctor. Why? The line about, "A lot of planets have a North", was too pathetic when Christopher Eccleston said it. You can't get away with it again - particularly since we've had two Scottish Doctors, who must be even more Northern than Northern. So, why no Irish, Welsh, West Country, East Anglian or Cockney Doctors? It's discrimination, I tell you! A completely Alien accent, never heard on Earth before, would be clever, but probably too difficult. So please can the Doctor act like a proper Alien, and stop being so identifiably and parochially terrestrial.
? ? And as for the moment when she said, "Would of" AAAAAGH!

? ? And wasn't the plot nicked from "Predator"?

luv, Rog.

    On Sunday, 7 October 2018, 22:08:11 BST, Nick Ware via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:  
 
 I did. I never thought I?d want to cuddle a Dr Who until today!My Mum was Yorkshire, so I?m on home ground with that.
Don?t know what Willliam Hartnell would have made of all that CGI and bally-hoo though. Dr Who has evolved somewhat, but he would know that of course, because he?s seen the future.Great pictures too, and superb sound with music not too loud for a change.Nick.

Sent from my iPad
On 7 Oct 2018, at 21:30, Geoff Fletcher <geoffletch at gmail.com> wrote:


Never mind all that Nick - did tha like her Yorkshire accent lad?Geoff F?
On Sun, 7 Oct 2018 at 19:23, Nick Ware via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:

Dr Who - well OK great, but why is it not 16x9??My tellies are all 16x9.?Is yours??Yeah, I thought so.Is anyone?s not 16x9?No, I thought not.
So what does slitty-vision bring to the party?Daft I call it.Nick.

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From rogerbunce at btinternet.com  Mon Oct  8 02:14:11 2018
From: rogerbunce at btinternet.com (ROGER BUNCE)
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2018 07:14:11 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Tech1] The Doctor
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And for those who like Doctor Who in French

https://www.lemonde.fr/pixels/article/2018/10/06/doctor-who-par-ou-commencer-si-vous-n-en-avez-jamais-vu-un-seul-episode_5365722_4408996.html

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From graeme.wall at icloud.com  Mon Oct  8 03:08:16 2018
From: graeme.wall at icloud.com (Graeme Wall)
Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2018 09:08:16 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Dr Who
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Putting my anorak on for a moment, anyone know if the train sequence was filmed on the Barry Tourist Railway?
? 
Graeme Wall





> On 8 Oct 2018, at 07:50, ROGER BUNCE via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> NOOOO! The Doctor is supposed to be an Alien - from another planet - she would have learned English-as-a-Foreign-Language, i.e. Received English. (or American English, which would be completely unacceptable! Can't have the Doctor talking about "Train Stations", even if BBC Journos do.) If she'd crash-landed in Yorkshire, completely lost he memory and had to relearn her whole language - that might have been acceptable. But this is the second Northern Doctor. Why? The line about, "A lot of planets have a North", was too pathetic when Christopher Eccleston said it. You can't get away with it again - particularly since we've had two Scottish Doctors, who must be even more Northern than Northern. So, why no Irish, Welsh, West Country, East Anglian or Cockney Doctors? It's discrimination, I tell you! A completely Alien accent, never heard on Earth before, would be clever, but probably too difficult. So please can the Doctor act like a proper Alien, and stop being so identifiably and parochially terrestrial.
> 
>     And as for the moment when she said, "Would of" AAAAAGH!
> 
>     And wasn't the plot nicked from "Predator"?
> 
> luv, Rog.
> 
> 
> On Sunday, 7 October 2018, 22:08:11 BST, Nick Ware via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> 
> I did. I never thought I?d want to cuddle a Dr Who until today!
> My Mum was Yorkshire, so I?m on home ground with that.
> Don?t know what Willliam Hartnell would have made of all that CGI and bally-hoo though. Dr Who has evolved somewhat, but he would know that of course, because he?s seen the future.
> Great pictures too, and superb sound with music not too loud for a change.
> Nick.
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> On 7 Oct 2018, at 21:30, Geoff Fletcher <geoffletch at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Never mind all that Nick - did tha like her Yorkshire accent lad?
>> Geoff F?
>> 
>> On Sun, 7 Oct 2018 at 19:23, Nick Ware via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
>> Dr Who - well OK great, but why is it not 16x9? 
>> My tellies are all 16x9. 
>> Is yours? 
>> Yeah, I thought so.
>> Is anyone?s not 16x9?
>> No, I thought not.
>> So what does slitty-vision bring to the party?
>> Daft I call it.
>> Nick.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> -- 
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>> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
>> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk
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From bernie833 at gmail.com  Mon Oct  8 03:54:46 2018
From: bernie833 at gmail.com (Bernard Newnham)
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2018 09:54:46 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Dr Who
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With mine on- when I saw them fiddling with the door handles I asked my 
wife if she'd noticed what date it was set.

B



On 08/10/2018 09:08, Graeme Wall via Tech1 wrote:
> Putting my anorak on for a moment, anyone know if the train sequence was filmed on the Barry Tourist Railway?
> ?
> Graeme Wall
>
>
>
>
>
>> On 8 Oct 2018, at 07:50, ROGER BUNCE via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>> NOOOO! The Doctor is supposed to be an Alien - from another planet - she would have learned English-as-a-Foreign-Language, i.e. Received English. (or American English, which would be completely unacceptable! Can't have the Doctor talking about "Train Stations", even if BBC Journos do.) If she'd crash-landed in Yorkshire, completely lost he memory and had to relearn her whole language - that might have been acceptable. But this is the second Northern Doctor. Why? The line about, "A lot of planets have a North", was too pathetic when Christopher Eccleston said it. You can't get away with it again - particularly since we've had two Scottish Doctors, who must be even more Northern than Northern. So, why no Irish, Welsh, West Country, East Anglian or Cockney Doctors? It's discrimination, I tell you! A completely Alien accent, never heard on Earth before, would be clever, but probably too difficult. So please can the Doctor act like a proper Alien, and stop being so identifiably and parochially terrestrial.
>>
>>      And as for the moment when she said, "Would of" AAAAAGH!
>>
>>      And wasn't the plot nicked from "Predator"?
>>
>> luv, Rog.
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, 7 October 2018, 22:08:11 BST, Nick Ware via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>
>> I did. I never thought I?d want to cuddle a Dr Who until today!
>> My Mum was Yorkshire, so I?m on home ground with that.
>> Don?t know what Willliam Hartnell would have made of all that CGI and bally-hoo though. Dr Who has evolved somewhat, but he would know that of course, because he?s seen the future.
>> Great pictures too, and superb sound with music not too loud for a change.
>> Nick.
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On 7 Oct 2018, at 21:30, Geoff Fletcher <geoffletch at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Never mind all that Nick - did tha like her Yorkshire accent lad?
>>> Geoff F?
>>>
>>> On Sun, 7 Oct 2018 at 19:23, Nick Ware via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
>>> Dr Who - well OK great, but why is it not 16x9?
>>> My tellies are all 16x9.
>>> Is yours?
>>> Yeah, I thought so.
>>> Is anyone?s not 16x9?
>>> No, I thought not.
>>> So what does slitty-vision bring to the party?
>>> Daft I call it.
>>> Nick.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> -- 
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From j at howell61.f9.co.uk  Mon Oct  8 04:55:33 2018
From: j at howell61.f9.co.uk (John Howell)
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2018 10:55:33 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Dr Who
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I'm guessing "coo-mon" replaces "allons y"

John H.



On 08/10/2018 07:50, ROGER BUNCE via Tech1 wrote:
> NOOOO!The Doctor is supposed to be an Alien - from another planet - 
> she would have learned English-as-a-Foreign-Language, i.e. Received 
> English. (or American English, which would be completely unacceptable! 
> Can't have the Doctor talking about "Train Stations", even if BBC 
> Journos do.) If she'd crash-landed in Yorkshire, completely lost he 
> memory and had to relearn her whole language - that might have been 
> acceptable. But this is the second Northern Doctor. Why? The line 
> about, "A lot of planets have a North", was too pathetic when 
> Christopher Eccleston said it. You can't get away with it again - 
> particularly since we've had two Scottish Doctors, who must be even 
> more Northern than Northern. So, why no Irish, Welsh, West Country, 
> East Anglian or Cockney Doctors? It's discrimination, I tell you! A 
> completely Alien accent, never heard on Earth before, would be clever, 
> but probably too difficult. So please can the Doctor act like a proper 
> Alien, and stop being so identifiably and parochially terrestrial.
>
> ? ? And as for the moment when she said, "Would of" AAAAAGH!
>
> ? ? And wasn't the plot nicked from "Predator"?
>
> luv, Rog.
>
>
> On Sunday, 7 October 2018, 22:08:11 BST, Nick Ware via Tech1 
> <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
> I did. I never thought I?d want to cuddle a Dr Who until today!
> My Mum was Yorkshire, so I?m on home ground with that.
> Don?t know what Willliam Hartnell would have made of all that CGI and 
> bally-hoo though. Dr Who has evolved somewhat, but he would know that 
> of course, because he?s seen the future.
> Great pictures too, and superb sound with music not too loud for a change.
> Nick.
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On 7 Oct 2018, at 21:30, Geoff Fletcher <geoffletch at gmail.com 
> <mailto:geoffletch at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>> Never mind all that Nick - did tha like her Yorkshire accent lad?
>> Geoff F?
>>
>> On Sun, 7 Oct 2018 at 19:23, Nick Ware via Tech1 
>> <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk <mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>> wrote:
>>
>>     Dr Who - well OK great, but why is it not 16x9?
>>     My tellies are all 16x9.
>>     Is yours?
>>     Yeah, I thought so.
>>     Is anyone?s not 16x9?
>>     No, I thought not.
>>     So what does slitty-vision bring to the party?
>>     Daft I call it.
>>     Nick.
>>
>>     Sent from my iPad
>>     -- 
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From dave at davesound.co.uk  Mon Oct  8 04:46:38 2018
From: dave at davesound.co.uk (Dave Plowman)
Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2018 10:46:38 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Dr Who
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In article <d9e1f739-1188-81a0-f299-8d3ffbf8d902 at ntlworld.com>,
   Bernard Newnham via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> With mine on- when I saw them fiddling with the door handles I asked my 
> wife if she'd noticed what date it was set.

My reaction was that type of door and handle had automatic locking?

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From graeme.wall at icloud.com  Mon Oct  8 05:33:43 2018
From: graeme.wall at icloud.com (Graeme Wall)
Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2018 11:33:43 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Dr Who
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Isn?t that a Scottish dairyman?
? 
Graeme Wall





> On 8 Oct 2018, at 10:55, John Howell via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> I'm guessing "coo-mon" replaces "allons y"
> 
> John H.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 08/10/2018 07:50, ROGER BUNCE via Tech1 wrote:
>> NOOOO! The Doctor is supposed to be an Alien - from another planet - she would have learned English-as-a-Foreign-Language, i.e. Received English. (or American English, which would be completely unacceptable! Can't have the Doctor talking about "Train Stations", even if BBC Journos do.) If she'd crash-landed in Yorkshire, completely lost he memory and had to relearn her whole language - that might have been acceptable. But this is the second Northern Doctor. Why? The line about, "A lot of planets have a North", was too pathetic when Christopher Eccleston said it. You can't get away with it again - particularly since we've had two Scottish Doctors, who must be even more Northern than Northern. So, why no Irish, Welsh, West Country, East Anglian or Cockney Doctors? It's discrimination, I tell you! A completely Alien accent, never heard on Earth before, would be clever, but probably too difficult. So please can the Doctor act like a proper Alien, and stop being so identifiably and parochially terrestrial.
>> 
>>     And as for the moment when she said, "Would of" AAAAAGH!
>> 
>>     And wasn't the plot nicked from "Predator"?
>> 
>> luv, Rog.
>> 
>> 
>> On Sunday, 7 October 2018, 22:08:11 BST, Nick Ware via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> I did. I never thought I?d want to cuddle a Dr Who until today!
>> My Mum was Yorkshire, so I?m on home ground with that.
>> Don?t know what Willliam Hartnell would have made of all that CGI and bally-hoo though. Dr Who has evolved somewhat, but he would know that of course, because he?s seen the future.
>> Great pictures too, and superb sound with music not too loud for a change.
>> Nick.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>> On 7 Oct 2018, at 21:30, Geoff Fletcher <geoffletch at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Never mind all that Nick - did tha like her Yorkshire accent lad?
>>> Geoff F?
>>> 
>>> On Sun, 7 Oct 2018 at 19:23, Nick Ware via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
>>> Dr Who - well OK great, but why is it not 16x9? 
>>> My tellies are all 16x9. 
>>> Is yours? 
>>> Yeah, I thought so.
>>> Is anyone?s not 16x9?
>>> No, I thought not.
>>> So what does slitty-vision bring to the party?
>>> Daft I call it.
>>> Nick.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
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From patheigham at amps.net  Mon Oct  8 08:50:56 2018
From: patheigham at amps.net (patheigham)
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2018 14:50:56 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] The New Dr.
Message-ID: <5bbb60c0.1c69fb81.2bf14.3723@mx.google.com>

I wholeheartedly agree with Nick that Jodie is delicious.
I particularly liked the RT cover photo (attached)

Sobering to think that she was born in 1982, twenty
years after the initial series started in the sixties.
Oh for a real, practical TARDIS!
Pat




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From dave.mdv at btinternet.com  Mon Oct  8 12:05:05 2018
From: dave.mdv at btinternet.com (dave.mdv)
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2018 18:05:05 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Fwd: HiFi
In-Reply-To: <CALVqK2Fbyvf4L1c-xpu56G20iYxroxfwgVvF=7oupDGw8XfQBA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALVqK2Fbyvf4L1c-xpu56G20iYxroxfwgVvF=7oupDGw8XfQBA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <28c0e201-ea10-19a6-f6a2-dace280aad39@btinternet.com>

Anyone interested contact Mike - Michael York <clementiart at gmail.com>

I have just bought a Sonos Beam sound bar for my art room cum office to 
create more space.? So I am selling a Denon M31 tuner/CD player/Amp and 
two Misson M71i speakers.? The amp is worth about ?35 and so are the 
speakers. They are all in ace condition.


Mike




From waresound at msn.com  Mon Oct  8 16:03:51 2018
From: waresound at msn.com (Nick Ware)
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2018 21:03:51 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] The New Dr.
In-Reply-To: <5bbb60c0.1c69fb81.2bf14.3723@mx.google.com>
References: <5bbb60c0.1c69fb81.2bf14.3723@mx.google.com>
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Delicious isn?t actually a word I would have chosen. I was of course being professional and referring to the Dr Who character as compared to previous ones ?
Doesn?t that not quite into the lens picture look as if it wasn?t the camera the photographer just exposed? She looks startled.
Best,
Nick.
Sent from my iPad

On 8 Oct 2018, at 14:51, patheigham via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk<mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>> wrote:

I wholeheartedly agree with Nick that Jodie is delicious.
I particularly liked the RT cover photo (attached)

Sobering to think that she was born in 1982, twenty
years after the initial series started in the sixties.
Oh for a real, practical TARDIS!
Pat


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From bernie833 at gmail.com  Tue Oct  9 03:26:02 2018
From: bernie833 at gmail.com (Bernard Newnham)
Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2018 09:26:02 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Here's an oddity....
In-Reply-To: <2fd2bfd9-438f-4147-045e-44fce4c228c6@armoor.plus.com>
References: <4fa72d5b-fe43-7e85-3311-efd14287729c@gmail.com>
	<2fd2bfd9-438f-4147-045e-44fce4c228c6@armoor.plus.com>
Message-ID: <03453b28-f5b2-f2e4-1991-63faf7d5749f@gmail.com>

Stupid me!!!?? Failed to put in the link, then sent the fix from the 
wrong email address, which doesn't work.

http://www.tech-ops.co.uk/bern/stones1.mp4

B



On 07/10/2018 11:53, Ian Norman wrote:
> Dear Bernie,
>
> Good morning.
>
> Not sure if I'm missing something from your last post.? What do I 
> click on to download?
>
>
> Best regards
>
> Ian Norman
>
> Email: mailto:ian.norman at armoor.co.uk
> Telephone: 01643 888181
>
> On 07/10/2018 11:40, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 wrote:
>> I was watching TOTP2 whilst writing last night.
>>
>> If you type "Get off of my Cloud" into YouTube you will find multiple
>> copies of the TOTP recording, with added subtitles.? What you won't get
>> is the original version, which is a little different.Here's an off
>> screen clip. There's a shot in it which isn't in the YouTube version. Do
>> you recognise anyone?? (46Mb, so let it download first)
>>
>> B
>>
>>
>>
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From david.jasma at sky.com  Tue Oct  9 05:02:49 2018
From: david.jasma at sky.com (Dave Buckley)
Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2018 11:02:49 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Doctor Who?
Message-ID: <000001d45fb7$3c88f710$b59ae530$@sky.com>

'Quotes of the week' in last Sundays Mail on Sunday carried the
following.....

'I'm from Hoodezfield'. Jodie wrongfoots a US chat show subtitle writer with
her Yorkshire accent!

Dave Buckley


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From dave at davesound.co.uk  Tue Oct  9 08:28:14 2018
From: dave at davesound.co.uk (Dave Plowman)
Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2018 14:28:14 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] The New Dr.
In-Reply-To: <VI1P192MB027171E9A4B289E8165A9754A7E60@VI1P192MB0271.EURP192.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
References: <5bbb60c0.1c69fb81.2bf14.3723@mx.google.com>
	<VI1P192MB027171E9A4B289E8165A9754A7E60@VI1P192MB0271.EURP192.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
Message-ID: <57444cf5e1dave@davesound.co.uk>

In article
<VI1P192MB027171E9A4B289E8165A9754A7E60 at VI1P192MB0271.EURP192.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>,
   Nick Ware via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> Doesn?t that not quite into the lens picture look as if it wasn?t the
> camera the photographer just exposed? She looks startled.

You might too if just having had an unexpected gender re-orientation?

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From rogerbunce at btinternet.com  Tue Oct  9 09:36:38 2018
From: rogerbunce at btinternet.com (ROGER BUNCE)
Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2018 14:36:38 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Tech1] The New Dr.
In-Reply-To: <57444cf5e1dave@davesound.co.uk>
References: <5bbb60c0.1c69fb81.2bf14.3723@mx.google.com>
	<VI1P192MB027171E9A4B289E8165A9754A7E60@VI1P192MB0271.EURP192.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
	<57444cf5e1dave@davesound.co.uk>
Message-ID: <941851108.9714011.1539095798894@mail.yahoo.com>

 Not sure if this is Politically Correct, or not - The Doctor Who Barbie Doll!
   
   - 
   - 
   - 
   - 
   - 

    On Tuesday, 9 October 2018, 14:59:27 BST, Dave Plowman via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:  
 
 In article
<VI1P192MB027171E9A4B289E8165A9754A7E60 at VI1P192MB0271.EURP192.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>,
? Nick Ware via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> Doesn?t that not quite into the lens picture look as if it wasn?t the
> camera the photographer just exposed? She looks startled.

You might too if just having had an unexpected gender re-orientation?

-- 
*Save a tree, eat a beaver*

? ? Dave Plowman? ? dave at davesound.co.uk? ? London SW 12
? ? 

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From rogerbunce at btinternet.com  Tue Oct  9 09:43:21 2018
From: rogerbunce at btinternet.com (ROGER BUNCE)
Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2018 14:43:21 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Tech1] The Lady Doctor, again
References: <1595427992.9712653.1539096201649.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1595427992.9712653.1539096201649@mail.yahoo.com>

Then there's this -



Although, personally, I think the bubble should read, "Hello Nurse, is the Doctor in?"
luv, Rog.
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From alec.bray.2 at gmail.com  Tue Oct  9 11:11:47 2018
From: alec.bray.2 at gmail.com (Alec Bray)
Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2018 17:11:47 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] The New Dr.
In-Reply-To: <941851108.9714011.1539095798894@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <5bbb60c0.1c69fb81.2bf14.3723@mx.google.com>
	<VI1P192MB027171E9A4B289E8165A9754A7E60@VI1P192MB0271.EURP192.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
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	<941851108.9714011.1539095798894@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <c14d5a0b-fbf3-0e4d-2eef-57a943f75a69@gmail.com>


"... With her signature suspenders, lace-up boots and sonic screwdriver, 
this #Barbie <https://twitter.com/hashtag/Barbie?src=hash> doll is ready 
to time travel into your collection!..."

and then I remembered that "suspenders" is American for Braces...

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Alec

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From dave.mdv at btinternet.com  Tue Oct  9 14:14:05 2018
From: dave.mdv at btinternet.com (dave.mdv)
Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2018 20:14:05 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Dishwasher tablets (again!)
Message-ID: <1e6a2c06-b972-036b-79ee-6d2bb2eef24d@btinternet.com>

I have just finished my first 336 'Astonish' tablets (8 packs of 42) and 
have ordered and received the next 336 for the same price as last year! 
?29.94 delivered. Thanks to all of you who helped out in my quest last 
year after 'Finish' changed their formula and made theirs useless! 
Cheers, Dave


From dave.mdv at btinternet.com  Tue Oct  9 14:45:06 2018
From: dave.mdv at btinternet.com (dave.mdv)
Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2018 20:45:06 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] PS.
Message-ID: <6b3c68fa-55da-a952-2a9c-88c7333839ba@btinternet.com>

I forgot to mention that I bought the tablets from QDstores.co.uk! 
Cheers, Dave


From dave.mdv at btinternet.com  Tue Oct  9 17:51:51 2018
From: dave.mdv at btinternet.com (dave.mdv)
Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2018 23:51:51 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Road hogs
Message-ID: <dbeaa9a0-e6c8-3bc0-59e7-bf047b3475f2@btinternet.com>

There I was, driving along the Kingston by-pass at 50 mph, when a car 
pulled out in front of me and, as we were approaching a speed camera, 
slammed on his brakes at 40 mph! It reminded me of this attached little 
ditty which seems to cover most of the dick-heads on the roads these 
days. Cheers, Dave
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From dave.mdv at btinternet.com  Tue Oct  9 18:48:51 2018
From: dave.mdv at btinternet.com (dave.mdv)
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2018 00:48:51 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Pop songs
Message-ID: <1e26ff71-151d-e5a7-b149-a7aa57d98f08@btinternet.com>

OK, I admit it, I have had a few! (units, that is!). I grew up with Glen 
Miller, Frankie Laine, etc. in the 50's. Plain and simple, backing band 
and a soloist. Now, the whole pop world has changed beyond recognition, 
and as a sound guy I marvel at the complexity of modern pops. My 
favourite has to be Madonna's 'Live to Tell'. Please download it and 
listen to each and every bar and try and work out who decided to put 
which sound into the mix. There are so many different sounds which all 
come together to make a fabulous result.  Cheers, Dave


From dave.mdv at btinternet.com  Tue Oct  9 20:47:09 2018
From: dave.mdv at btinternet.com (dave.mdv)
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2018 02:47:09 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] The worst night of my life
Message-ID: <ed202d9d-73a5-8da7-8a3b-20a28f5b6aa7@btinternet.com>

I started to write an account of mine but I thought to myself 'who 
cares' and the answer was 'nobody' so I have stopped writing it so you 
will never know! However, I survived and that is your loss! Cheers, Dave


From waresound at msn.com  Wed Oct 10 01:53:16 2018
From: waresound at msn.com (Nick Ware)
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2018 06:53:16 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] The worst night of my life
In-Reply-To: <ed202d9d-73a5-8da7-8a3b-20a28f5b6aa7@btinternet.com>
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I care Dave after that little tease! Tell me over lunch today.
Nick x

Sent from my iPad

On 10 Oct 2018, at 02:47, dave.mdv via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk<mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>> wrote:

I started to write an account of mine but I thought to myself 'who cares' and the answer was 'nobody' so I have stopped writing it so you will never know! However, I survived and that is your loss! Cheers, Dave

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From ohbytheway.tv at gmail.com  Wed Oct 10 02:35:21 2018
From: ohbytheway.tv at gmail.com (David Denness)
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2018 08:35:21 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] The worst night of my life
In-Reply-To: <VI1P192MB0271809A1FDED97CCBBA7BB8A7E00@VI1P192MB0271.EURP192.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
References: <ed202d9d-73a5-8da7-8a3b-20a28f5b6aa7@btinternet.com>
	<VI1P192MB0271809A1FDED97CCBBA7BB8A7E00@VI1P192MB0271.EURP192.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
Message-ID: <000001d4606b$cd3cd470$67b67d50$@gmail.com>

Unfortunately I can?t be there to hear it, but would love to.

Dave D

 

 

From: Tech1 <tech1-bounces at tech-ops.co.uk> On Behalf Of Nick Ware via Tech1
Sent: 10 October 2018 07:53
To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
Subject: Re: [Tech1] The worst night of my life

 

I care Dave after that little tease! Tell me over lunch today. 

Nick x

Sent from my iPad


On 10 Oct 2018, at 02:47, dave.mdv via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk <mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> > wrote:

I started to write an account of mine but I thought to myself 'who cares' and the answer was 'nobody' so I have stopped writing it so you will never know! However, I survived and that is your loss! Cheers, Dave

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From alec.bray.2 at gmail.com  Wed Oct 10 03:05:44 2018
From: alec.bray.2 at gmail.com (Alec Bray)
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2018 09:05:44 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] pre-Bowie Bowie at TC
Message-ID: <ba2209ef-54bd-2385-715e-c016ba3f608c@gmail.com>


Hi all,

from yesterday's "The Times"? (09 Oct 2018).

Did Bowie ever perform at the Telly Centre (we know that he did TOTP 
from LG)?


Bowie when he was Dave Jones




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From graeme.wall at icloud.com  Wed Oct 10 03:16:49 2018
From: graeme.wall at icloud.com (Graeme Wall)
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2018 09:16:49 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] pre-Bowie Bowie at TC
In-Reply-To: <ba2209ef-54bd-2385-715e-c016ba3f608c@gmail.com>
References: <ba2209ef-54bd-2385-715e-c016ba3f608c@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4CE426EA-C668-47CB-92E0-8FC0CCEB168F@icloud.com>

I remember Space Oddity being performed on TOTP in G.  Special effects (rotating starfield) courtesy Roger Casstles, whatever happened to him?

? 
Graeme Wall





> On 10 Oct 2018, at 09:05, Alec Bray via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi all, 
> from yesterday's "The Times"  (09 Oct 2018).
> Did Bowie ever perform at the Telly Centre (we know that he did TOTP from LG)?
> 
> <bowie0001.png>
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> Best Regards
> 
> Alec
> 
> Alec Bray
> 
> 
> alec.bray.2 at gmail.com
> 
> mob:    07789 561 346
> home:   0118 981 7502
> 
> -- 
> Tech1 mailing list
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> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk



From pat.heigham at btinternet.com  Wed Oct 10 03:59:53 2018
From: pat.heigham at btinternet.com (patheigham)
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2018 09:59:53 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] The New Dr.
In-Reply-To: <c14d5a0b-fbf3-0e4d-2eef-57a943f75a69@gmail.com>
References: <5bbb60c0.1c69fb81.2bf14.3723@mx.google.com>
	<VI1P192MB027171E9A4B289E8165A9754A7E60@VI1P192MB0271.EURP192.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>	<57444cf5e1dave@davesound.co.uk>
	<941851108.9714011.1539095798894@mail.yahoo.com>
	<c14d5a0b-fbf3-0e4d-2eef-57a943f75a69@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5B9AED2F024DC8E3@rgout07.bt.lon5.cpcloud.co.uk> (added by
	postmaster@btinternet.com)

And braces are what teenage girls have to straighten teeth.
Pat
(probably boys, too)

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Alec Bray via Tech1
Sent: 09 October 2018 17:12
To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
Subject: Re: [Tech1] The New Dr.


"... With her signature suspenders, lace-up boots and sonic screwdriver, this #Barbie doll is ready to time travel into your collection!..."
and then I remembered that "suspenders" is American for Braces...
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Alec

Alec Bray

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From peter.neill at icloud.com  Wed Oct 10 04:01:32 2018
From: peter.neill at icloud.com (Peter Neill)
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2018 10:01:32 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] pre-Bowie Bowie at TC
In-Reply-To: <ba2209ef-54bd-2385-715e-c016ba3f608c@gmail.com>
References: <ba2209ef-54bd-2385-715e-c016ba3f608c@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <938E0B71-78BC-4A78-B88C-6A40D0663187@icloud.com>

I remember Bowie performing in TC8, (can?t remember the programme, though - but that would have been late ?80s, long after that photo. 






> On 10 Oct 2018, at 09:05, Alec Bray via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi all, 
> from yesterday's "The Times"  (09 Oct 2018).
> Did Bowie ever perform at the Telly Centre (we know that he did TOTP from LG)?
> 
> <bowie0001.png>
> 
> 
> 
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> Best Regards
> 
> Alec
> 
> Alec Bray
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From billjenkin67 at gmail.com  Wed Oct 10 04:16:05 2018
From: billjenkin67 at gmail.com (Bill Jenkin)
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2018 10:16:05 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] pre-Bowie Bowie at TC
In-Reply-To: <938E0B71-78BC-4A78-B88C-6A40D0663187@icloud.com>
References: <ba2209ef-54bd-2385-715e-c016ba3f608c@gmail.com>
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The now famous John Henshall rediscovered tape of "Jean Genie" was
certainly from a 1973 TOTP at TC.
https://youtu.be/yEmGQYCuc6M


On Wed, 10 Oct 2018, 10:02 Peter Neill via Tech1, <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
wrote:

> I remember Bowie performing in TC8, (can?t remember the programme, though
> - but that would have been late ?80s, long after that photo.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 10 Oct 2018, at 09:05, Alec Bray via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
>
> Hi all,
>
> from yesterday's "The Times"  (09 Oct 2018).
>
> Did Bowie ever perform at the Telly Centre (we know that he did TOTP from
> LG)?
>
>
> <bowie0001.png>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Best Regards
>
> Alec
>
> Alec Bray
> alec.bray.2 at gmail.com
> mob:    07789 561 346
> home:   0118 981 7502
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From ian.norman at armoor.co.uk  Wed Oct 10 04:20:15 2018
From: ian.norman at armoor.co.uk (Ian Norman)
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2018 10:20:15 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] pre-Bowie Bowie at TC
In-Reply-To: <938E0B71-78BC-4A78-B88C-6A40D0663187@icloud.com>
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As a school pupil, he was on the 'Tonight' programme interviewed about 
long hair by Cliff Michelmore.

Best regards

Ian Norman

Email: mailto:ian.norman at armoor.co.uk
Telephone: 01643 888181

On 10/10/2018 10:01, Peter Neill via Tech1 wrote:
> I remember Bowie performing in TC8, (can?t remember the programme,
> though - but that would have been late ?80s, long after that photo.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>> On 10 Oct 2018, at 09:05, Alec Bray via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
>> <mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> from yesterday's "The Times"  (09 Oct 2018).
>>
>> Did Bowie ever perform at the Telly Centre (we know that he did TOTP
>> from LG)?
>>
>>
>> <bowie0001.png>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Best Regards
>>
>> Alec
>>
>> Alec Bray
>>
>> alec.bray.2 at gmail.com
>> mob:    07789 561 346
>> home:   0118 981 7502
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>
>


From waresound at msn.com  Wed Oct 10 04:20:20 2018
From: waresound at msn.com (Nick Ware)
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2018 09:20:20 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] pre-Bowie Bowie at TC
In-Reply-To: <CAE6tP4Bwothi3YD84GQ0_4qvzUgrXHJeyotFrpoaFe7HQpjV1Q@mail.gmail.com>
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Is that John Henshall now famous or the tape??

Sent from my iPad

On 10 Oct 2018, at 10:16, Bill Jenkin via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk<mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>> wrote:

The now famous John Henshall rediscovered tape of "Jean Genie" was certainly from a 1973 TOTP at TC.
https://youtu.be/yEmGQYCuc6M


On Wed, 10 Oct 2018, 10:02 Peter Neill via Tech1, <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk<mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>> wrote:
I remember Bowie performing in TC8, (can?t remember the programme, though - but that would have been late ?80s, long after that photo.






On 10 Oct 2018, at 09:05, Alec Bray via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk<mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>> wrote:



Hi all,

from yesterday's "The Times"  (09 Oct 2018).

Did Bowie ever perform at the Telly Centre (we know that he did TOTP from LG)?


<bowie0001.png>




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From david.plaice at googlemail.com  Wed Oct 10 05:40:42 2018
From: david.plaice at googlemail.com (David Plaice)
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2018 11:40:42 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Fwd:  pre-Bowie Bowie at TC
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I worked on a TOTP with Bowie on 17th June 1987 in TC3, crew 7. It was a
pre-record for the song Time Will Crawl for use the following week, but was
never shown because the song slipped out of the charts.  I was operating a
crane, swinging the Nike IIRC. At the end Bowie walked out into the
audience, which wasn't scripted and hadn't been rehearsed. I remember we
had to track back urgently as he kept walking towards us and the vision
mixer had to busk it. Sadly I didn't have the nerve to ask for an autograph

It's been posted on YT:
https://youtu.be/o98Df6i35ic

Dave

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From: Peter Neill via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2018, 10:02
Subject: Re: [Tech1] pre-Bowie Bowie at TC
To: Tech Ops List <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>


I remember Bowie performing in TC8, (can?t remember the programme, though -
but that would have been late ?80s, long after that photo.






On 10 Oct 2018, at 09:05, Alec Bray via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:


Hi all,

from yesterday's "The Times"  (09 Oct 2018).

Did Bowie ever perform at the Telly Centre (we know that he did TOTP from
LG)?


<bowie0001.png>




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From peter.neill at icloud.com  Wed Oct 10 05:50:50 2018
From: peter.neill at icloud.com (Peter Neill)
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2018 11:50:50 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Fwd:  pre-Bowie Bowie at TC
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Can?t resist telling this story. 
For all of the ?90s I was working on Newsroom South East at Elstree.
One day Jacqui Harper, one of the journalists, sneaked into the TOTP studio to watch Bowie rehearsing. When he had finished the song he looked down from the rostrum and said: ?You?re Jacqui Harper. You?re my favourite newsreader!!?.
She?s dined out on that story ever since. 
Bowie was obviously a complex character but whenever I came across him he was thoroughly charming and professional. 


Sent from my iPhone (in my way to lunch). Apologies for typos and autocorruptions. 

> On 10 Oct 2018, at 11:40, David Plaice via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> I worked on a TOTP with Bowie on 17th June 1987 in TC3, crew 7. It was a pre-record for the song Time Will Crawl for use the following week, but was never shown because the song slipped out of the charts.  I was operating a crane, swinging the Nike IIRC. At the end Bowie walked out into the audience, which wasn't scripted and hadn't been rehearsed. I remember we had to track back urgently as he kept walking towards us and the vision mixer had to busk it. Sadly I didn't have the nerve to ask for an autograph
> 
> It's been posted on YT:
> https://youtu.be/o98Df6i35ic
> 
> Dave
> 
> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
> From: Peter Neill via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
> Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2018, 10:02
> Subject: Re: [Tech1] pre-Bowie Bowie at TC
> To: Tech Ops List <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
> 
> 
> I remember Bowie performing in TC8, (can?t remember the programme, though - but that would have been late ?80s, long after that photo. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 10 Oct 2018, at 09:05, Alec Bray via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hi all, 
>> 
>> from yesterday's "The Times"  (09 Oct 2018).
>> 
>> Did Bowie ever perform at the Telly Centre (we know that he did TOTP from LG)?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> <bowie0001.png>
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> 
>> Best Regards
>> 
>> Alec
>> 
>> Alec Bray
>> 
>> alec.bray.2 at gmail.com
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From patheigham at amps.net  Wed Oct 10 06:43:53 2018
From: patheigham at amps.net (patheigham)
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2018 12:43:53 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Road hogs
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Nice one, Dave!
The start of the 50 limit, before the Hook underpass has been fitted with average speed cameras, so the chap may well have been caught!
I believe that earlier, the French autoroutes were issuing time stamped tickets, so when one left the motorway, the machine calculated whether you would have exceeded the speed limit and automatically added on a fine to the toll.
In your case, it would have been handy to have a dashcam, if you could not avoid rear ending him.
I?m thinking of fitting a second cam, looking to the rear.
Some of today?s new cars have rear parking cams, but I know not if they could be activated to record all the time.
Best
Pat

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: dave.mdv via Tech1
Sent: 09 October 2018 23:52
To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
Subject: [Tech1] Road hogs

There I was, driving along the Kingston by-pass at 50 mph, when a car 
pulled out in front of me and, as we were approaching a speed camera, 
slammed on his brakes at 40 mph! It reminded me of this attached little 
ditty which seems to cover most of the dick-heads on the roads these 
days. Cheers, Dave

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From david.jasma at sky.com  Wed Oct 10 06:46:19 2018
From: david.jasma at sky.com (Dave Buckley)
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2018 12:46:19 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] pre-Bowie Bowie at TC
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I had to record a TOTP rehearsal in 1975 for TV Training (two items are on
the tech ops website) and at the end of Island Girl by Elton John, VT is run
for Major Tom by Bowie. But where the recording had been made, I don't know.
What you could say is that Bowie performed in a TOTP which was produced at
TVC!

Dave Buckley


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From j at howell61.f9.co.uk  Wed Oct 10 08:09:04 2018
From: j at howell61.f9.co.uk (John Howell)
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2018 14:09:04 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Fwd: pre-Bowie Bowie at TC
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I was Sound Sup. on a Brecht play called "Baal" starring Bowie. It was 
shot in TC1 between 9th & 13th August 1981, Sam Barclay was lighting 
Director & Dave Mutton was Camera Supervisor. It was shot on long lenses 
and when the cry "Boom in shot" was heard it was usually the whole pram 
& the onlookers leaning on it. However one shot was a close 2-shot, 
camera tracking back with them starting against wall 3 and tracking 
until the camera could go no further than the wall at the back of the 
Technical Store. I don't remember any dressing to disguise the fact that 
it was a TV studio. Alan Clarke was the Director.

John H.


On 10/10/2018 11:40, David Plaice via Tech1 wrote:
> I worked on a TOTP with Bowie on 17th June 1987 in TC3, crew 7. It was 
> a pre-record?for the song Time Will Crawl for use the following week, 
> but was never shown because the song slipped out of the charts. ?I was 
> operating a crane, swinging the Nike IIRC.?At the end Bowie walked out 
> into the audience, which wasn't scripted and hadn't been rehearsed. I 
> remember we had to track back urgently as he kept walking towards us 
> and the vision mixer had to busk it. Sadly I didn't have the nerve to 
> ask for an autograph
>
> It's been posted on YT:
> https://youtu.be/o98Df6i35ic
>
> Dave
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
> From: *Peter Neill via Tech1* <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk 
> <mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>>
> Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2018, 10:02
> Subject: Re: [Tech1] pre-Bowie Bowie at TC
> To: Tech Ops List <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk <mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>>
>
>
> I remember Bowie performing in TC8, (can?t remember the programme, 
> though - but that would have been late ?80s, long after that photo.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>> On 10 Oct 2018, at 09:05, Alec Bray via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk 
>> <mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> from yesterday's "The Times"? (09 Oct 2018).
>>
>> Did Bowie ever perform at the Telly Centre (we know that he did TOTP 
>> from LG)?
>>
>>
>> <bowie0001.png>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
>>
>> Best Regards
>>
>> Alec
>>
>> Alec Bray
>>
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From nick at nickway.co.uk  Wed Oct 10 08:13:48 2018
From: nick at nickway.co.uk (Nick Way)
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2018 14:13:48 +0100 (BST)
Subject: [Tech1] Fwd: pre-Bowie Bowie at TC
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From pat.heigham at btinternet.com  Wed Oct 10 12:18:21 2018
From: pat.heigham at btinternet.com (patheigham)
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2018 18:18:21 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Fwd: pre-Bowie Bowie at TC
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That does remind me of operating the main boom on TW3,
Ned Sherrin yelled ?boom in shot? followed by a pull out to a wide which showed the whole set with cameras, boom et al!

The problem with people leaning on the platform was if one was
literally one line above the top of frame, the sag on the tyres could cause a dip into shot. If someone put their hand on the raised edge of the Mole boom, I used to have no hesitation in planting my foot firmly on it ? apparently not deliberately!
Pat
(Gestapo operator!)
I have another story whereby Michael Winner was yelling at me
as to how to boom operate! I ignored him!


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From: John Howell via Tech1
Sent: 10 October 2018 14:31
To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
Subject: Re: [Tech1] Fwd: pre-Bowie Bowie at TC

I was Sound Sup. on a Brecht play called "Baal" starring Bowie. It was shot in TC1 between 9th & 13th August 1981, Sam Barclay was lighting Director & Dave Mutton was Camera Supervisor. It was shot on long lenses and when the cry "Boom in shot" was heard it was usually the whole pram & the onlookers leaning on it. However one shot was a close 2-shot, camera tracking back with them starting against wall 3 and tracking until the camera could go no further than the wall at the back of the Technical Store. I don't remember any dressing to disguise the fact that it was a TV studio. Alan Clarke was the Director.
John H.

On 10/10/2018 11:40, David Plaice via Tech1 wrote:
I worked on a TOTP with Bowie on 17th June 1987 in TC3, crew 7. It was a?pre-record?for the song Time Will Crawl for use the following week, but was never shown because the song slipped out of the charts.??I was operating a crane, swinging the Nike IIRC.?At the end Bowie walked out into the audience, which wasn't scripted and hadn't been rehearsed. I remember we had to track back urgently as he kept walking towards us and the vision mixer had to busk it. Sadly I didn't have the nerve to ask for an autograph

It's been posted on YT:
https://youtu.be/o98Df6i35ic

Dave

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Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2018, 10:02
Subject: Re: [Tech1] pre-Bowie Bowie at TC
To: Tech Ops List <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>

I remember Bowie performing in TC8, (can?t remember the programme, though - but that would have been late ?80s, long after that photo.?






On 10 Oct 2018, at 09:05, Alec Bray via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:


Hi all, 
from yesterday's "The Times"? (09 Oct 2018).
Did Bowie ever perform at the Telly Centre (we know that he did TOTP from LG)?

<bowie0001.png> 



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From geoffletch at gmail.com  Wed Oct 10 14:58:19 2018
From: geoffletch at gmail.com (Geoff Fletcher)
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2018 20:58:19 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Fwd: pre-Bowie Bowie at TC
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We all knew better than to lean on the Mole boom platform when the boom was
being operated Pat. However, very early on in my BBC Tech Op years, there
was a certain sound guy who wouldn?t even let you touch the platform when
tracking him between scenes. He was a weighty chap and I couldn?t get the
thing moving just using the steering handle alone. I put my hand on the
edge of the platform and he stood on it. It bloody hurt and I was not
pleased. He did it again on the next move. He thought it was highly amusing
and was very arrogant in his attitude as well. Now I was not a callow
youth, having worked in heavy electrics in a tough midland factory, so we
had words. He was unmoved however. So I ?forgot? to lock up the handle
after the next move, and when he tried to use the steps on the side of it
to dismount............well, you can guess what happened.
He never did it to me again, and soon I was back where I belonged - on
cameras.
Geoff F

On Wed, 10 Oct 2018 at 18:18, patheigham via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
wrote:

> That does remind me of operating the main boom on TW3,
>
> Ned Sherrin yelled ?boom in shot? followed by a pull out to a wide which
> showed the whole set with cameras, boom et al!
>
>
>
> The problem with people leaning on the platform was if one was
>
> literally one line above the top of frame, the sag on the tyres could
> cause a dip into shot. If someone put their hand on the raised edge of the
> Mole boom, I used to have no hesitation in planting my foot firmly on it ?
> apparently not deliberately!
>
> Pat
>
> (Gestapo operator!)
>
> I have another story whereby Michael Winner was yelling at me
>
> as to how to boom operate! I ignored him!
>
>
>
>
>
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> *From: *John Howell via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
> *Sent: *10 October 2018 14:31
> *To: *tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
> *Subject: *Re: [Tech1] Fwd: pre-Bowie Bowie at TC
>
>
>
> I was Sound Sup. on a Brecht play called "Baal" starring Bowie. It was
> shot in TC1 between 9th & 13th August 1981, Sam Barclay was lighting
> Director & Dave Mutton was Camera Supervisor. It was shot on long lenses
> and when the cry "Boom in shot" was heard it was usually the whole pram &
> the onlookers leaning on it. However one shot was a close 2-shot, camera
> tracking back with them starting against wall 3 and tracking until the
> camera could go no further than the wall at the back of the Technical
> Store. I don't remember any dressing to disguise the fact that it was a TV
> studio. Alan Clarke was the Director.
>
> John H.
>
>
>
> On 10/10/2018 11:40, David Plaice via Tech1 wrote:
>
> I worked on a TOTP with Bowie on 17th June 1987 in TC3, crew 7. It was a
> pre-record for the song Time Will Crawl for use the following week, but
> was never shown because the song slipped out of the charts.  I was
> operating a crane, swinging the Nike IIRC. At the end Bowie walked out
> into the audience, which wasn't scripted and hadn't been rehearsed. I
> remember we had to track back urgently as he kept walking towards us and
> the vision mixer had to busk it. Sadly I didn't have the nerve to ask for
> an autograph
>
>
>
> It's been posted on YT:
>
> https://youtu.be/o98Df6i35ic
>
>
>
> Dave
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
> From: *Peter Neill via Tech1* <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
> Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2018, 10:02
> Subject: Re: [Tech1] pre-Bowie Bowie at TC
> To: Tech Ops List <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
>
>
>
> I remember Bowie performing in TC8, (can?t remember the programme, though
> - but that would have been late ?80s, long after that photo.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 10 Oct 2018, at 09:05, Alec Bray via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi all,
>
> from yesterday's "The Times"  (09 Oct 2018).
>
> Did Bowie ever perform at the Telly Centre (we know that he did TOTP from
> LG)?
>
>
>
> <bowie0001.png>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
>
>
> Best Regards
>
>
>
> Alec
>
>
>
> Alec Bray
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>
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From brian.curtis.bluesky at gmail.com  Wed Oct 10 15:36:04 2018
From: brian.curtis.bluesky at gmail.com (Brian Curtis)
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2018 21:36:04 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Fwd: pre-Bowie Bowie at TC
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People putting items on boom platforms was another hazard. I was cover boom
op on a Natiowide/24 Hours combo once.

In rehearsal a singer who had completed his song put a hand held vocal Mic
on the platform without me noticing.

I stepped back onto said Mic which rolled from under my foot. I nearly
pitched off the boom and worst of all the boom Mic  a 4033 came swinging
down and bonked Sam Neeter on the head as he was getting lighting adjusted.

Neither of us were happy bunnies!!

Brian

On Wed, 10 Oct 2018, 20:58 Geoff Fletcher via Tech1, <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
wrote:

> We all knew better than to lean on the Mole boom platform when the boom
> was being operated Pat. However, very early on in my BBC Tech Op years,
> there was a certain sound guy who wouldn?t even let you touch the platform
> when tracking him between scenes. He was a weighty chap and I couldn?t get
> the thing moving just using the steering handle alone. I put my hand on the
> edge of the platform and he stood on it. It bloody hurt and I was not
> pleased. He did it again on the next move. He thought it was highly amusing
> and was very arrogant in his attitude as well. Now I was not a callow
> youth, having worked in heavy electrics in a tough midland factory, so we
> had words. He was unmoved however. So I ?forgot? to lock up the handle
> after the next move, and when he tried to use the steps on the side of it
> to dismount............well, you can guess what happened.
> He never did it to me again, and soon I was back where I belonged - on
> cameras.
> Geoff F
>
> On Wed, 10 Oct 2018 at 18:18, patheigham via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
>> That does remind me of operating the main boom on TW3,
>>
>> Ned Sherrin yelled ?boom in shot? followed by a pull out to a wide which
>> showed the whole set with cameras, boom et al!
>>
>>
>>
>> The problem with people leaning on the platform was if one was
>>
>> literally one line above the top of frame, the sag on the tyres could
>> cause a dip into shot. If someone put their hand on the raised edge of the
>> Mole boom, I used to have no hesitation in planting my foot firmly on it ?
>> apparently not deliberately!
>>
>> Pat
>>
>> (Gestapo operator!)
>>
>> I have another story whereby Michael Winner was yelling at me
>>
>> as to how to boom operate! I ignored him!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
>> Windows 10
>>
>>
>>
>> *From: *John Howell via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
>> *Sent: *10 October 2018 14:31
>> *To: *tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
>> *Subject: *Re: [Tech1] Fwd: pre-Bowie Bowie at TC
>>
>>
>>
>> I was Sound Sup. on a Brecht play called "Baal" starring Bowie. It was
>> shot in TC1 between 9th & 13th August 1981, Sam Barclay was lighting
>> Director & Dave Mutton was Camera Supervisor. It was shot on long lenses
>> and when the cry "Boom in shot" was heard it was usually the whole pram &
>> the onlookers leaning on it. However one shot was a close 2-shot, camera
>> tracking back with them starting against wall 3 and tracking until the
>> camera could go no further than the wall at the back of the Technical
>> Store. I don't remember any dressing to disguise the fact that it was a TV
>> studio. Alan Clarke was the Director.
>>
>> John H.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 10/10/2018 11:40, David Plaice via Tech1 wrote:
>>
>> I worked on a TOTP with Bowie on 17th June 1987 in TC3, crew 7. It was a
>> pre-record for the song Time Will Crawl for use the following week, but
>> was never shown because the song slipped out of the charts.  I was
>> operating a crane, swinging the Nike IIRC. At the end Bowie walked out
>> into the audience, which wasn't scripted and hadn't been rehearsed. I
>> remember we had to track back urgently as he kept walking towards us and
>> the vision mixer had to busk it. Sadly I didn't have the nerve to ask for
>> an autograph
>>
>>
>>
>> It's been posted on YT:
>>
>> https://youtu.be/o98Df6i35ic
>>
>>
>>
>> Dave
>>
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>> From: *Peter Neill via Tech1* <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
>> Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2018, 10:02
>> Subject: Re: [Tech1] pre-Bowie Bowie at TC
>> To: Tech Ops List <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
>>
>>
>>
>> I remember Bowie performing in TC8, (can?t remember the programme, though
>> - but that would have been late ?80s, long after that photo.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 10 Oct 2018, at 09:05, Alec Bray via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> from yesterday's "The Times"  (09 Oct 2018).
>>
>> Did Bowie ever perform at the Telly Centre (we know that he did TOTP from
>> LG)?
>>
>>
>>
>> <bowie0001.png>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>>
>> Best Regards
>>
>>
>>
>> Alec
>>
>>
>>
>> Alec Bray
>>
>>
>>
>> alec.bray.2 at gmail.com
>>
>> mob:    07789 561 346
>>
>> home:   0118 981 7502
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From dave.mdv at btinternet.com  Wed Oct 10 15:50:49 2018
From: dave.mdv at btinternet.com (dave.mdv)
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2018 21:50:49 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Fwd: pre-Bowie Bowie at TC
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Good on yer! There was another boom op. who caused memos to written when 
he booted a make-up girl's tray off the platform! Cheers, Dave


From graeme.wall at icloud.com  Fri Oct 12 05:57:08 2018
From: graeme.wall at icloud.com (Graeme Wall)
Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2018 11:57:08 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] HD tuning
Message-ID: <8CE35EFD-A8DE-4825-961C-18F0B6F817D2@icloud.com>

I now don?t seem to be able to get anything from channel 107 upwards on HD from Crystal Palace?  Who can I complain to?

Cheers
? 
Graeme Wall







From dave at davesound.co.uk  Fri Oct 12 08:37:43 2018
From: dave at davesound.co.uk (Dave Plowman)
Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2018 14:37:43 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] HD tuning
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References: <8CE35EFD-A8DE-4825-961C-18F0B6F817D2@icloud.com>
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In article <8CE35EFD-A8DE-4825-961C-18F0B6F817D2 at icloud.com>,
   Graeme Wall via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> I now don?t seem to be able to get anything from channel 107 upwards on
> HD from Crystal Palace?  Who can I complain to?

Interesting. I have a wide band (log beam) aerial pointing at the CP mast,
which I can see from here, perhaps 5 miles to the south. Going into a DA.
And all the TVs etc in the house no longer get a reliable HD signal.
According to the signal strength meter most have in their menu, SD is fine
at 90%+ signal strength, but zero on HD. The DA isn't that old either -
certainly since digital was the only one being broadcast. Perhaps 10 years
old or less. The power LEDs on it are normal.    

Think all this started after a fairly recent re-tune.

-- 
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    Dave Plowman     dave at davesound.co.uk     London SW 12
    


From bernie833 at gmail.com  Fri Oct 12 09:53:56 2018
From: bernie833 at gmail.com (Bernard Newnham)
Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2018 15:53:56 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] HD tuning
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I'm near Woking and have had low signal problemsfor the last few months. 
A new thing- maybe they've cut signal strength?

B



On 12/10/2018 14:37, Dave Plowman via Tech1 wrote:
> In article <8CE35EFD-A8DE-4825-961C-18F0B6F817D2 at icloud.com>,
>     Graeme Wall via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
>> I now don?t seem to be able to get anything from channel 107 upwards on
>> HD from Crystal Palace?  Who can I complain to?
> Interesting. I have a wide band (log beam) aerial pointing at the CP mast,
> which I can see from here, perhaps 5 miles to the south. Going into a DA.
> And all the TVs etc in the house no longer get a reliable HD signal.
> According to the signal strength meter most have in their menu, SD is fine
> at 90%+ signal strength, but zero on HD. The DA isn't that old either -
> certainly since digital was the only one being broadcast. Perhaps 10 years
> old or less. The power LEDs on it are normal.
>
> Think all this started after a fairly recent re-tune.
>

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From graeme.wall at icloud.com  Fri Oct 12 09:57:05 2018
From: graeme.wall at icloud.com (Graeme Wall)
Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2018 15:57:05 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] HD tuning
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i?m just south of you in Guildford, I assume I?m seeing CP and not Reigate.  The annoying thing is I?m less than 2 miles from the local TX on the Hogs Back but there?s a hill in the way!
? 
Graeme Wall





> On 12 Oct 2018, at 15:53, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> I'm near Woking and have had low signal problems for the last few months. A new thing - maybe they've cut signal strength?
> 
> B
> 
>  
> 
> On 12/10/2018 14:37, Dave Plowman via Tech1 wrote:
>> In article <8CE35EFD-A8DE-4825-961C-18F0B6F817D2 at icloud.com>
>> ,
>>    Graeme Wall via Tech1 
>> <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> I now don?t seem to be able to get anything from channel 107 upwards on
>>> HD from Crystal Palace?  Who can I complain to?
>>> 
>> Interesting. I have a wide band (log beam) aerial pointing at the CP mast,
>> which I can see from here, perhaps 5 miles to the south. Going into a DA.
>> And all the TVs etc in the house no longer get a reliable HD signal.
>> According to the signal strength meter most have in their menu, SD is fine
>> at 90%+ signal strength, but zero on HD. The DA isn't that old either -
>> certainly since digital was the only one being broadcast. Perhaps 10 years
>> old or less. The power LEDs on it are normal.    
>> 
>> Think all this started after a fairly recent re-tune.
>> 
>> 
> 
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From hughsheppard at btinternet.com  Fri Oct 12 10:57:48 2018
From: hughsheppard at btinternet.com (Hugh Sheppard)
Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2018 16:57:48 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] HD tuning
In-Reply-To: <dd479ae2-4e93-11ef-246d-1b35ed1c36c4@ntlworld.com>
References: <8CE35EFD-A8DE-4825-961C-18F0B6F817D2@icloud.com>
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Message-ID: <6fa36614-b799-820a-31d2-66555357608e@btinternet.com>

Wiser birds than me will know the extent to which 4G WiFi signals have 
been responsible for burning out DA's for TV aerials. Six months ago 
that was identified by a local aerial supplier, who said it affects HD 
more than SD signals.? After a new DA was fitted, all is bootiful.

Hugh


On 12-Oct-18 3:53 PM, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 wrote:
> I'm near Woking and have had low signal problemsfor the last few 
> months. A new thing- maybe they've cut signal strength?
>
> B
>
>
>
> On 12/10/2018 14:37, Dave Plowman via Tech1 wrote:
>> In article<8CE35EFD-A8DE-4825-961C-18F0B6F817D2 at icloud.com>,
>>     Graeme Wall via Tech1<tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>  wrote:
>>> I now don?t seem to be able to get anything from channel 107 upwards on
>>> HD from Crystal Palace?  Who can I complain to?
>> Interesting. I have a wide band (log beam) aerial pointing at the CP mast,
>> which I can see from here, perhaps 5 miles to the south. Going into a DA.
>> And all the TVs etc in the house no longer get a reliable HD signal.
>> According to the signal strength meter most have in their menu, SD is fine
>> at 90%+ signal strength, but zero on HD. The DA isn't that old either -
>> certainly since digital was the only one being broadcast. Perhaps 10 years
>> old or less. The power LEDs on it are normal.
>>
>> Think all this started after a fairly recent re-tune.
>>
>
>
>



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From dave.mdv at btinternet.com  Fri Oct 12 11:13:55 2018
From: dave.mdv at btinternet.com (dave.mdv)
Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2018 17:13:55 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Freeview HD channels
Message-ID: <f93d3546-00ed-732a-fb24-ebd7f798eef7@btinternet.com>

They have moved up to Ch. 55 and 56! You will need a wideband aerial - 
like what I just got! www.aerialsandtv.com is the go-to website for all 
you need to know. However, I believe that muxes 7 and 8 will be moving 
again in about 2020 to 22! Cheers, Dave


From bernie833 at gmail.com  Fri Oct 12 11:21:39 2018
From: bernie833 at gmail.com (Bernard Newnham)
Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2018 17:21:39 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] HD tuning
In-Reply-To: <45C14314-FA61-4013-8D3D-CDCAFE9CDA0E@icloud.com>
References: <8CE35EFD-A8DE-4825-961C-18F0B6F817D2@icloud.com>
	<5745d956efdave@davesound.co.uk>
	<dd479ae2-4e93-11ef-246d-1b35ed1c36c4@ntlworld.com>
	<45C14314-FA61-4013-8D3D-CDCAFE9CDA0E@icloud.com>
Message-ID: <5b49e086-6ac3-94ce-6513-526716ddf5ed@ntlworld.com>

I'd point at Guildford, but next door's leylandiis are in the way

B



On 12/10/2018 15:57, Graeme Wall wrote:
> i?m just south of you in Guildford, I assume I?m seeing CP and not Reigate.  The annoying thing is I?m less than 2 miles from the local TX on the Hogs Back but there?s a hill in the way!
> ?
> Graeme Wall
>
>
>
>
>
>> On 12 Oct 2018, at 15:53, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>> I'm near Woking and have had low signal problems for the last few months. A new thing - maybe they've cut signal strength?
>>
>> B
>>
>>   
>>
>> On 12/10/2018 14:37, Dave Plowman via Tech1 wrote:
>>> In article <8CE35EFD-A8DE-4825-961C-18F0B6F817D2 at icloud.com>
>>> ,
>>>     Graeme Wall via Tech1
>>> <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
>>>   wrote:
>>>
>>>> I now don?t seem to be able to get anything from channel 107 upwards on
>>>> HD from Crystal Palace?  Who can I complain to?
>>>>
>>> Interesting. I have a wide band (log beam) aerial pointing at the CP mast,
>>> which I can see from here, perhaps 5 miles to the south. Going into a DA.
>>> And all the TVs etc in the house no longer get a reliable HD signal.
>>> According to the signal strength meter most have in their menu, SD is fine
>>> at 90%+ signal strength, but zero on HD. The DA isn't that old either -
>>> certainly since digital was the only one being broadcast. Perhaps 10 years
>>> old or less. The power LEDs on it are normal.
>>>
>>> Think all this started after a fairly recent re-tune.
>>>
>>>
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From graeme.wall at icloud.com  Fri Oct 12 11:26:55 2018
From: graeme.wall at icloud.com (Graeme Wall)
Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2018 17:26:55 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Freeview HD channels
In-Reply-To: <f93d3546-00ed-732a-fb24-ebd7f798eef7@btinternet.com>
References: <f93d3546-00ed-732a-fb24-ebd7f798eef7@btinternet.com>
Message-ID: <712E2649-BCEE-44A9-865D-D241283E2C62@icloud.com>

Thanks, I had a feeling I?d need a new aerial, serves me right for buying a new telly.
? 
Graeme Wall





> On 12 Oct 2018, at 17:13, dave.mdv <dave.mdv at btinternet.com> wrote:
> 
> They have moved up to Ch. 55 and 56! You will need a wideband aerial - like what I just got! www.aerialsandtv.com is the go-to website for all you need to know. However, I believe that muxes 7 and 8 will be moving again in about 2020 to 22! Cheers, Dave



From pat.heigham at btinternet.com  Fri Oct 12 12:39:00 2018
From: pat.heigham at btinternet.com (patheigham)
Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2018 18:39:00 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] HD tuning
In-Reply-To: <8CE35EFD-A8DE-4825-961C-18F0B6F817D2@icloud.com>
References: <8CE35EFD-A8DE-4825-961C-18F0B6F817D2@icloud.com>
Message-ID: <5B93D5940316F4EB@rgout02.bt.lon5.cpcloud.co.uk> (added by
	postmaster@btinternet.com)

I?m south of Leatherhead, Surrey and our flats? block aerial is trained on CP.
Installed by Cranleigh Systems to feed a distribution amp to 8 flats.
Just checked now on the bedroom TV which is HD, my main one is fed via
a DVD recorder which doesn?t do HD! Apart from BBC4 which starts at 7pm
and another shopping channel, all HD channels come in perfectly on the
bedroom Samsung.
I did have the engineer prance around on the roof with his signal meter
to determine the optimum position for the mast.
This backfired slightly, as it was installed through the roof, which caused
leaks in heavy rain!
I have to empty a bucket in the loft!
Pat

Best
Pat


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From: Graeme Wall via Tech1
Sent: 12 October 2018 11:57
To: co. uk email group
Subject: [Tech1] HD tuning

I now don?t seem to be able to get anything from channel 107 upwards on HD from Crystal Palace?  Who can I complain to?

Cheers
? 
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From pat.heigham at btinternet.com  Fri Oct 12 12:50:42 2018
From: pat.heigham at btinternet.com (patheigham)
Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2018 18:50:42 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] HD tuning
In-Reply-To: <45C14314-FA61-4013-8D3D-CDCAFE9CDA0E@icloud.com>
References: <8CE35EFD-A8DE-4825-961C-18F0B6F817D2@icloud.com>
	<5745d956efdave@davesound.co.uk>
	<dd479ae2-4e93-11ef-246d-1b35ed1c36c4@ntlworld.com>
	<45C14314-FA61-4013-8D3D-CDCAFE9CDA0E@icloud.com>
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	postmaster@btinternet.com)

Which side of the Hog?s Back are you, Graeme?
I understand that the transmission aerials there
aim towards the South West to fill in the HB shadow?
Check for trees between you and CP, they can be a
problem.
Pat

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From: Graeme Wall via Tech1
Sent: 12 October 2018 15:57
To: bernard.newnham at ntlworld.com
Cc: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
Subject: Re: [Tech1] HD tuning

i?m just south of you in Guildford, I assume I?m seeing CP and not Reigate.  The annoying thing is I?m less than 2 miles from the local TX on the Hogs Back but there?s a hill in the way!
? 
Graeme Wall





> On 12 Oct 2018, at 15:53, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> I'm near Woking and have had low signal problems for the last few months. A new thing - maybe they've cut signal strength?
> 
> B
> 
>  
> 
> On 12/10/2018 14:37, Dave Plowman via Tech1 wrote:
>> In article <8CE35EFD-A8DE-4825-961C-18F0B6F817D2 at icloud.com>
>> ,
>>    Graeme Wall via Tech1 
>> <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> I now don?t seem to be able to get anything from channel 107 upwards on
>>> HD from Crystal Palace?  Who can I complain to?
>>> 
>> Interesting. I have a wide band (log beam) aerial pointing at the CP mast,
>> which I can see from here, perhaps 5 miles to the south. Going into a DA.
>> And all the TVs etc in the house no longer get a reliable HD signal.
>> According to the signal strength meter most have in their menu, SD is fine
>> at 90%+ signal strength, but zero on HD. The DA isn't that old either -
>> certainly since digital was the only one being broadcast. Perhaps 10 years
>> old or less. The power LEDs on it are normal.    
>> 
>> Think all this started after a fairly recent re-tune.
>> 
>> 
> 
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From bernie833 at gmail.com  Fri Oct 12 15:47:13 2018
From: bernie833 at gmail.com (Bernard Newnham)
Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2018 21:47:13 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] HD tuning
In-Reply-To: <5B321EA009C5C7AA@rgout01.bt.lon5.cpcloud.co.uk>
References: <8CE35EFD-A8DE-4825-961C-18F0B6F817D2@icloud.com>
	<5745d956efdave@davesound.co.uk>
	<dd479ae2-4e93-11ef-246d-1b35ed1c36c4@ntlworld.com>
	<45C14314-FA61-4013-8D3D-CDCAFE9CDA0E@icloud.com>
	<5B321EA009C5C7AA@rgout01.bt.lon5.cpcloud.co.uk>
Message-ID: <80e86ad9-6076-29f4-9de5-b940cc07907c@ntlworld.com>

I think the Guildford transmitter is on the top of the Hogs Back, with 
the Eagle Radio one, and are omnidirectional (apart from my local 
leylandii).

Looking at this page - http://www.bbc.co.uk/receptionsearch I might 
twiddle round to Reigate and see how well that works.

An aside - Eagle Radio, when it was on AM, could be conveniently be 
tuned on an aircraft ADF receiver, and an exercise often? given to 
people like me was to make ADF approaches to the tower. You could listen 
to the radio whilst only being allowed to look at the aircraft 
instruments and trying to keep the needle pointing in the right direction.

B


On 12/10/2018 18:50, patheigham wrote:
>
> Which side of the Hog?s Back are you, Graeme?
>
> I understand that the transmission aerials there
>
> aim towards the South West to fill in the HB shadow?
>
> Check for trees between you and CP, they can be a
>
> problem.
>
> Pat
>
> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for 
> Windows 10
>
> *From: *Graeme Wall via Tech1 <mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
> *Sent: *12 October 2018 15:57
> *To: *bernard.newnham at ntlworld.com <mailto:bernard.newnham at ntlworld.com>
> *Cc: *tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk <mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
> *Subject: *Re: [Tech1] HD tuning
>
> i?m just south of you in Guildford, I assume I?m seeing CP and not 
> Reigate.? The annoying thing is I?m less than 2 miles from the local 
> TX on the Hogs Back but there?s a hill in the way!
>
> ?
>
> Graeme Wall
>
> > On 12 Oct 2018, at 15:53, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 
> <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >
>
> > I'm near Woking and have had low signal problems for the last few 
> months. A new thing - maybe they've cut signal strength?
>
> >
>
> > B
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > On 12/10/2018 14:37, Dave Plowman via Tech1 wrote:
>
> >> In article <8CE35EFD-A8DE-4825-961C-18F0B6F817D2 at icloud.com>
>
> >> ,
>
> >>??? Graeme Wall via Tech1
>
> >> <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
>
> >>? wrote:
>
> >>
>
> >>> I now don?t seem to be able to get anything from channel 107 
> upwards on
>
> >>> HD from Crystal Palace?? Who can I complain to?
>
> >>>
>
> >> Interesting. I have a wide band (log beam) aerial pointing at the 
> CP mast,
>
> >> which I can see from here, perhaps 5 miles to the south. Going into 
> a DA.
>
> >> And all the TVs etc in the house no longer get a reliable HD signal.
>
> >> According to the signal strength meter most have in their menu, SD 
> is fine
>
> >> at 90%+ signal strength, but zero on HD. The DA isn't that old either -
>
> >> certainly since digital was the only one being broadcast. Perhaps 
> 10 years
>
> >> old or less. The power LEDs on it are normal.
>
> >>
>
> >> Think all this started after a fairly recent re-tune.
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >
>
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From graeme.wall at icloud.com  Fri Oct 12 15:52:51 2018
From: graeme.wall at icloud.com (Graeme Wall)
Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2018 21:52:51 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] HD tuning
In-Reply-To: <80e86ad9-6076-29f4-9de5-b940cc07907c@ntlworld.com>
References: <8CE35EFD-A8DE-4825-961C-18F0B6F817D2@icloud.com>
	<5745d956efdave@davesound.co.uk>
	<dd479ae2-4e93-11ef-246d-1b35ed1c36c4@ntlworld.com>
	<45C14314-FA61-4013-8D3D-CDCAFE9CDA0E@icloud.com>
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Message-ID: <5BD4220A-8678-47BD-84AD-D02DD9E13224@icloud.com>

According to that I am directly due north of the Guildford TX.

? 
Graeme Wall





> On 12 Oct 2018, at 21:47, Bernard Newnham <bernie833 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I think the Guildford transmitter is on the top of the Hogs Back, with the Eagle Radio one, and are omnidirectional (apart from my local leylandii).
> 
> Looking at this page - http://www.bbc.co.uk/receptionsearch I might twiddle round to Reigate and see how well that works.
> 
> An aside - Eagle Radio, when it was on AM, could be conveniently be tuned on an aircraft ADF receiver, and an exercise often  given to people like me was to make ADF approaches to the tower. You could listen to the radio whilst only being allowed to look at the aircraft instruments and trying to keep the needle pointing in the right direction.
> 
> B
>  
> 
> On 12/10/2018 18:50, patheigham wrote:
>> Which side of the Hog?s Back are you, Graeme?
>> I understand that the transmission aerials there
>> aim towards the South West to fill in the HB shadow?
>> Check for trees between you and CP, they can be a
>> problem.
>> Pat
>>  
>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>>  
>> From: Graeme Wall via Tech1
>> Sent: 12 October 2018 15:57
>> To: bernard.newnham at ntlworld.com
>> Cc: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
>> Subject: Re: [Tech1] HD tuning
>>  
>> i?m just south of you in Guildford, I assume I?m seeing CP and not Reigate.  The annoying thing is I?m less than 2 miles from the local TX on the Hogs Back but there?s a hill in the way!
>> ?
>> Graeme Wall
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> > On 12 Oct 2018, at 15:53, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
>> >
>> > I'm near Woking and have had low signal problems for the last few months. A new thing - maybe they've cut signal strength?
>> >
>> > B
>> >
>> > 
>> >
>> > On 12/10/2018 14:37, Dave Plowman via Tech1 wrote:
>> >> In article <8CE35EFD-A8DE-4825-961C-18F0B6F817D2 at icloud.com>
>> >> ,
>> >>    Graeme Wall via Tech1
>> >> <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
>> >>  wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> I now don?t seem to be able to get anything from channel 107 upwards on
>> >>> HD from Crystal Palace?  Who can I complain to?
>> >>>
>> >> Interesting. I have a wide band (log beam) aerial pointing at the CP mast,
>> >> which I can see from here, perhaps 5 miles to the south. Going into a DA.
>> >> And all the TVs etc in the house no longer get a reliable HD signal.
>> >> According to the signal strength meter most have in their menu, SD is fine
>> >> at 90%+ signal strength, but zero on HD. The DA isn't that old either -
>> >> certainly since digital was the only one being broadcast. Perhaps 10 years
>> >> old or less. The power LEDs on it are normal.   
>> >>
>> >> Think all this started after a fairly recent re-tune.
>> >>
>> >>
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From dave.mdv at btinternet.com  Fri Oct 12 16:26:41 2018
From: dave.mdv at btinternet.com (dave.mdv)
Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2018 22:26:41 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] My day!
Message-ID: <12d8a377-b169-25eb-9fc5-ad72e24c6a71@btinternet.com>

Last night, happily 'silver surfing', this morning the PC would not 
start! Windows repair mode couldn't sort it, 'Spinrite' said don't try 
or you can damage the HD, so I gave in and erased the whole hard-drive 
and spent the next 9 hours putting everything back! B****y computers! 
Luckily, it was too windy to go outdoors safely. But what do peeps 
without PC's do on a day like that? Cheers, Dave


From dave.mdv at btinternet.com  Fri Oct 12 19:19:09 2018
From: dave.mdv at btinternet.com (dave.mdv)
Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2018 01:19:09 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Windsor
Message-ID: <35cea5a8-e7c0-9c5d-5612-0e55d19e8c87@btinternet.com>

So, (keeping up with modern trends) who were the lucky boys on duty for 
the Royal Wedding? I did the Prince Edward one with the late, great, 
Barry Hawes, in my personal scanner, LO3, and very good it was too! 
Cheers, Dave.


From dave.mdv at btinternet.com  Fri Oct 12 19:38:37 2018
From: dave.mdv at btinternet.com (dave.mdv)
Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2018 01:38:37 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] On this day
Message-ID: <5219a844-4e48-17ee-8510-01950aff4ea4@btinternet.com>

I'm at it again! According to 'Bing' on this day in 1958 Paddington Bear 
was introduced to the world by Michael Bond, one of the nicest camera 
supervisors I ever worked with. BTW, if you choose 'Bing'as your search 
engine instead of 'Google' you will get a lovely picture on your desktop 
every day which you can download, (most of the time). Keith Furlonger 
tells me that I am always on the newsgroup, so I told him that I have 
never seen anything from him. He says he can't write! How did he claim 
all those expenses? Words fail me, (for once!). The next BBC 
get-together is at the 'Kings Arms' behind Waterloo station, Roupell 
Street, on Tuesday Oct. 23rd. when the RMT have chosen to have a strike 
on South West Trains - how spiteful! Grrr! Buses and tubes are called 
for, needs must! Cheers, Dave


From dave.mdv at btinternet.com  Fri Oct 12 20:02:13 2018
From: dave.mdv at btinternet.com (dave.mdv)
Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2018 02:02:13 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] PS. aerials
Message-ID: <8b3f1b14-1326-221c-3a8e-ba2465ae2ebd@btinternet.com>

I live south of London near Surbiton and when I was playing with my 92 
element Fuba aerials I could receive Guilford and Reigate, Hemel 
Hempsted, Sandy Heath, Oxford, and on a good day Mendip, as it was 
directly in line with Hannington - my main second source for ITV South. 
When I was a teenager at home in Nottingham, in B/W days and band 1/3 
days, I managed to pick up Anglia and Granada. During the summer when 
continental interference was rife I picked up Spanish TV with an advert 
for Williams Lectric Shave. Spool on many years to when I actually went 
to Spain I found Williams Lectric shave in the pharmacy and have been 
using it ever since! You can't buy it in the UK, although it is part of 
the English Beechams group, but my son goes to Florida every year on 
business and restocks me! Cheers, Dave


From ohbytheway.tv at gmail.com  Sat Oct 13 02:24:09 2018
From: ohbytheway.tv at gmail.com (David Denness)
Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2018 08:24:09 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] PS. aerials
In-Reply-To: <8b3f1b14-1326-221c-3a8e-ba2465ae2ebd@btinternet.com>
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Message-ID: <001001d462c5$bc1418a0$343c49e0$@gmail.com>

Williams Lectric Shave is available in France at supermarkets including
Carrefour etc
I first bought it in Paris when covering Roland Garros for NBC many years
ago and have remained a fan ever since
Dave D

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Subject: [Tech1] PS. aerials

I live south of London near Surbiton and when I was playing with my 92
element Fuba aerials I could receive Guilford and Reigate, Hemel Hempsted,
Sandy Heath, Oxford, and on a good day Mendip, as it was directly in line
with Hannington - my main second source for ITV South. 
When I was a teenager at home in Nottingham, in B/W days and band 1/3 days,
I managed to pick up Anglia and Granada. During the summer when continental
interference was rife I picked up Spanish TV with an advert for Williams
Lectric Shave. Spool on many years to when I actually went to Spain I found
Williams Lectric shave in the pharmacy and have been using it ever since!
You can't buy it in the UK, although it is part of the English Beechams
group, but my son goes to Florida every year on business and restocks me!
Cheers, Dave

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From bernie833 at gmail.com  Sat Oct 13 03:39:34 2018
From: bernie833 at gmail.com (Bernard Newnham)
Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2018 09:39:34 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] PS. aerials
In-Reply-To: <8b3f1b14-1326-221c-3a8e-ba2465ae2ebd@btinternet.com>
References: <8b3f1b14-1326-221c-3a8e-ba2465ae2ebd@btinternet.com>
Message-ID: <6ba71e68-b346-2578-3a81-093ba04ab676@ntlworld.com>

Williams Lectric shave is probably alcohol based, so you might find that 
vodka is cheaper.

B



On 13/10/2018 02:02, dave.mdv via Tech1 wrote:
> I live south of London near Surbiton and when I was playing with my 92 
> element Fuba aerials I could receive Guilford and Reigate, Hemel 
> Hempsted, Sandy Heath, Oxford, and on a good day Mendip, as it was 
> directly in line with Hannington - my main second source for ITV 
> South. When I was a teenager at home in Nottingham, in B/W days and 
> band 1/3 days, I managed to pick up Anglia and Granada. During the 
> summer when continental interference was rife I picked up Spanish TV 
> with an advert for Williams Lectric Shave. Spool on many years to when 
> I actually went to Spain I found Williams Lectric shave in the 
> pharmacy and have been using it ever since! You can't buy it in the 
> UK, although it is part of the English Beechams group, but my son goes 
> to Florida every year on business and restocks me! Cheers, Dave
>

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From dave at davesound.co.uk  Sat Oct 13 04:53:31 2018
From: dave at davesound.co.uk (Dave Plowman)
Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2018 10:53:31 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] HD tuning
In-Reply-To: <6fa36614-b799-820a-31d2-66555357608e@btinternet.com>
References: <8CE35EFD-A8DE-4825-961C-18F0B6F817D2@icloud.com>
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	<dd479ae2-4e93-11ef-246d-1b35ed1c36c4@ntlworld.com>
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Message-ID: <574648a644dave@davesound.co.uk>

In article <6fa36614-b799-820a-31d2-66555357608e at btinternet.com>,
   Hugh Sheppard via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> Wiser birds than me will know the extent to which 4G WiFi signals have 
> been responsible for burning out DA's for TV aerials. Six months ago 
> that was identified by a local aerial supplier, who said it affects HD 
> more than SD signals.  After a new DA was fitted, all is bootiful.

I did wonder if it was the DA - although a 'good' make, and not that old.
I'll try running the aerial direct to a TV and see what the signal
strength reads then. 

As with most such things in this house, it's rather a complicated set-up.
But all easy enough to get at.  


> On 12-Oct-18 3:53 PM, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 wrote:
> > I'm near Woking and have had low signal problemsfor the last few 
> > months. A new thing- maybe they've cut signal strength?
> >
> > B
> >
> >
> >
> > On 12/10/2018 14:37, Dave Plowman via Tech1 wrote:
> >> In article<8CE35EFD-A8DE-4825-961C-18F0B6F817D2 at icloud.com>,
> >>     Graeme Wall via Tech1<tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>  wrote:
> >>> I now don?t seem to be able to get anything from channel 107 upwards on
> >>> HD from Crystal Palace?  Who can I complain to?
> >> Interesting. I have a wide band (log beam) aerial pointing at the CP mast,
> >> which I can see from here, perhaps 5 miles to the south. Going into a DA.
> >> And all the TVs etc in the house no longer get a reliable HD signal.
> >> According to the signal strength meter most have in their menu, SD is fine
> >> at 90%+ signal strength, but zero on HD. The DA isn't that old either -
> >> certainly since digital was the only one being broadcast. Perhaps 10 years
> >> old or less. The power LEDs on it are normal.
> >>
> >> Think all this started after a fairly recent re-tune.
> >>
> >
> >
> >



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From bernie833 at gmail.com  Sat Oct 13 08:27:31 2018
From: bernie833 at gmail.com (Bernard Newnham)
Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2018 14:27:31 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Here's an oddity....
In-Reply-To: <03453b28-f5b2-f2e4-1991-63faf7d5749f@gmail.com>
References: <4fa72d5b-fe43-7e85-3311-efd14287729c@gmail.com>
	<2fd2bfd9-438f-4147-045e-44fce4c228c6@armoor.plus.com>
	<03453b28-f5b2-f2e4-1991-63faf7d5749f@gmail.com>
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This was from a TOTP performance by the Stones of Get Off of My Cloud. 
It was done as a post record - get rid of the kids, then bring in the 
group. If you look on YouTube you won't find this shot, though it is in 
the TOTP2 programme, as run on Yesterday last week.? It was obviously 
replaced by someone after the event as being irrelevant, which it was. 
Completely irrelevantly, here is the scene crew.? I expect that the 
people in G gallery at the time had been affected by some noxious 
substance or something.....

GIF attached. It's taken a few goes with Photoshop to get the file size 
down to something sensible for an email.

B


On 09/10/2018 09:26, Bernard Newnham wrote:
> Stupid me!!!?? Failed to put in the link, then sent the fix from the 
> wrong email address, which doesn't work.
>
> http://www.tech-ops.co.uk/bern/stones1.mp4
>
> B
>
>
>
> On 07/10/2018 11:53, Ian Norman wrote:
>> Dear Bernie,
>>
>> Good morning.
>>
>> Not sure if I'm missing something from your last post.? What do I 
>> click on to download?
>>
>>
>> Best regards
>>
>> Ian Norman
>>
>> Email: mailto:ian.norman at armoor.co.uk
>> Telephone: 01643 888181
>>
>> On 07/10/2018 11:40, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 wrote:
>>> I was watching TOTP2 whilst writing last night.
>>>
>>> If you type "Get off of my Cloud" into YouTube you will find multiple
>>> copies of the TOTP recording, with added subtitles.? What you won't get
>>> is the original version, which is a little different.Here's an off
>>> screen clip. There's a shot in it which isn't in the YouTube 
>>> version. Do
>>> you recognise anyone?? (46Mb, so let it download first)
>>>
>>> B
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>

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From rogerbunce at btinternet.com  Sat Oct 13 12:48:15 2018
From: rogerbunce at btinternet.com (ROGER BUNCE)
Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2018 17:48:15 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Tech1] Here's an oddity....
In-Reply-To: <b16acf72-94e5-d180-6b74-8089a3124f34@ntlworld.com>
References: <4fa72d5b-fe43-7e85-3311-efd14287729c@gmail.com>
	<2fd2bfd9-438f-4147-045e-44fce4c228c6@armoor.plus.com>
	<03453b28-f5b2-f2e4-1991-63faf7d5749f@gmail.com>
	<b16acf72-94e5-d180-6b74-8089a3124f34@ntlworld.com>
Message-ID: <560933748.13697385.1539452895175@mail.yahoo.com>

 Their oxygen supply has been seriously reduced by those strangling things around their necks!
The character who is the second closest to camera is immediately recognisable, but I'm useless with names. Where's Peter Booth when I need him? He always knows everyone!
luv, Rog.

    On Saturday, 13 October 2018, 15:51:54 BST, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:  
 
  This was from a TOTP performance by the Stones of Get Off of My Cloud. It was done as a post record - get rid of the kids, then bring in the group. If you look on YouTube you won't find this shot, though it is in the TOTP2 programme, as run on Yesterday last week.? It was obviously replaced by someone after the event as being irrelevant, which it was. Completely irrelevantly, here is the scene crew.? I expect that the people in G gallery at the time had been affected by some noxious substance or something.....
 
 GIF attached. It's taken a few goes with Photoshop to get the file size down to something sensible for an email.
 
 B
 
 
 On 09/10/2018 09:26, Bernard Newnham wrote:
  
 
Stupid me!!!?? Failed to put in the link, then sent the fix from the wrong email address, which doesn't work.
 
 http://www.tech-ops.co.uk/bern/stones1.mp4
 
 B
 
 
 
 On 07/10/2018 11:53, Ian Norman wrote:
  
Dear Bernie, 
 
 Good morning. 
 
 Not sure if I'm missing something from your last post.? What do I click on to download? 
 
 
 Best regards 
 
 Ian Norman 
 
 Email: mailto:ian.norman at armoor.co.uk 
 Telephone: 01643 888181 
 
 On 07/10/2018 11:40, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 wrote: 
 
I was watching TOTP2 whilst writing last night. 
 
 If you type "Get off of my Cloud" into YouTube you will find multiple 
 copies of the TOTP recording, with added subtitles.? What you won't get 
 is the original version, which is a little different.Here's an off 
 screen clip. There's a shot in it which isn't in the YouTube version. Do 
 you recognise anyone?? (46Mb, so let it download first) 
 
 B 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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From peter.fox at tiscali.co.uk  Sat Oct 13 20:05:52 2018
From: peter.fox at tiscali.co.uk (Peter Fox)
Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2018 02:05:52 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Here's an oddity....
In-Reply-To: <560933748.13697385.1539452895175@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <4fa72d5b-fe43-7e85-3311-efd14287729c@gmail.com>
	<2fd2bfd9-438f-4147-045e-44fce4c228c6@armoor.plus.com>
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Message-ID: <5B5504A3-9D5E-4232-B75B-4056F4C73FE9@tiscali.co.uk>

Frank Sadler

Peter Fox

> On 13 Oct 2018, at 18:48, ROGER BUNCE via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> Their oxygen supply has been seriously reduced by those strangling things around their necks!
> 
> The character who is the second closest to camera is immediately recognisable, but I'm useless with names. Where's Peter Booth when I need him? He always knows everyone!
> 
> luv, Rog.
> 
> 
> On Saturday, 13 October 2018, 15:51:54 BST, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> 
> This was from a TOTP performance by the Stones of Get Off of My Cloud. It was done as a post record - get rid of the kids, then bring in the group. If you look on YouTube you won't find this shot, though it is in the TOTP2 programme, as run on Yesterday last week.  It was obviously replaced by someone after the event as being irrelevant, which it was. Completely irrelevantly, here is the scene crew.  I expect that the people in G gallery at the time had been affected by some noxious substance or something.....
> 
> GIF attached. It's taken a few goes with Photoshop to get the file size down to something sensible for an email.
> 
> B
> 
> 
>> On 09/10/2018 09:26, Bernard Newnham wrote:
> 
> Stupid me!!!   Failed to put in the link, then sent the fix from the wrong email address, which doesn't work.
> 
> http://www.tech-ops.co.uk/bern/stones1.mp4
> 
> B
> 
> 
> 
>> On 07/10/2018 11:53, Ian Norman wrote:
>> Dear Bernie, 
>> 
>> Good morning. 
>> 
>> Not sure if I'm missing something from your last post.  What do I click on to download? 
>> 
>> 
>> Best regards 
>> 
>> Ian Norman 
>> 
>> Email: mailto:ian.norman at armoor.co.uk 
>> Telephone: 01643 888181 
>> 
>>> On 07/10/2018 11:40, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 wrote: 
>>> I was watching TOTP2 whilst writing last night. 
>>> 
>>> If you type "Get off of my Cloud" into YouTube you will find multiple 
>>> copies of the TOTP recording, with added subtitles.  What you won't get 
>>> is the original version, which is a little different.Here's an off 
>>> screen clip. There's a shot in it which isn't in the YouTube version. Do 
>>> you recognise anyone?  (46Mb, so let it download first) 
>>> 
>>> B 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
> 
> 
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From bernie833 at gmail.com  Sun Oct 14 02:45:20 2018
From: bernie833 at gmail.com (Bernard Newnham)
Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2018 08:45:20 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Here's an oddity....
In-Reply-To: <5B5504A3-9D5E-4232-B75B-4056F4C73FE9@tiscali.co.uk>
References: <4fa72d5b-fe43-7e85-3311-efd14287729c@gmail.com>
	<2fd2bfd9-438f-4147-045e-44fce4c228c6@armoor.plus.com>
	<03453b28-f5b2-f2e4-1991-63faf7d5749f@gmail.com>
	<b16acf72-94e5-d180-6b74-8089a3124f34@ntlworld.com>
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	<5B5504A3-9D5E-4232-B75B-4056F4C73FE9@tiscali.co.uk>
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I think the chap on the far left is Alec something

B



On 14/10/2018 02:05, Peter Fox via Tech1 wrote:
> Frank Sadler
>
> Peter Fox
>
> On 13 Oct 2018, at 18:48, ROGER BUNCE via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk 
> <mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>> wrote:
>
>> Their oxygen supply has been seriously reduced by those strangling 
>> things around their necks!
>>
>> The character who is the second closest to camera is immediately 
>> recognisable, but I'm useless with names. Where's Peter Booth when I 
>> need him? He always knows everyone!
>>
>> luv, Rog.
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, 13 October 2018, 15:51:54 BST, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 
>> <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk <mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> This was from a TOTP performance by the Stones of Get Off of My 
>> Cloud. It was done as a post record - get rid of the kids, then bring 
>> in the group. If you look on YouTube you won't find this shot, though 
>> it is in the TOTP2 programme, as run on Yesterday last week.? It was 
>> obviously replaced by someone after the event as being irrelevant, 
>> which it was. Completely irrelevantly, here is the scene crew. I 
>> expect that the people in G gallery at the time had been affected by 
>> some noxious substance or something.....
>>
>> GIF attached. It's taken a few goes with Photoshop to get the file 
>> size down to something sensible for an email.
>>
>> B
>>
>>
>> On 09/10/2018 09:26, Bernard Newnham wrote:
>> Stupid me!!!?? Failed to put in the link, then sent the fix from the 
>> wrong email address, which doesn't work.
>>
>> http://www.tech-ops.co.uk/bern/stones1.mp4
>>
>> B
>>
>>
>>
>> On 07/10/2018 11:53, Ian Norman wrote:
>>> Dear Bernie,
>>>
>>> Good morning.
>>>
>>> Not sure if I'm missing something from your last post.? What do I 
>>> click on to download?
>>>
>>>
>>> Best regards
>>>
>>> Ian Norman
>>>
>>> Email: mailto:ian.norman at armoor.co.uk
>>> Telephone: 01643 888181
>>>
>>> On 07/10/2018 11:40, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 wrote:
>>>> I was watching TOTP2 whilst writing last night.
>>>>
>>>> If you type "Get off of my Cloud" into YouTube you will find multiple
>>>> copies of the TOTP recording, with added subtitles.? What you won't 
>>>> get
>>>> is the original version, which is a little different.Here's an off
>>>> screen clip. There's a shot in it which isn't in the YouTube 
>>>> version. Do
>>>> you recognise anyone?? (46Mb, so let it download first)
>>>>
>>>> B
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
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From jpn at imixmics.co.uk  Mon Oct 15 09:35:22 2018
From: jpn at imixmics.co.uk (John Nottage)
Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2018 15:35:22 +0100 (BST)
Subject: [Tech1] Our World
Message-ID: <2068978778.161712.1539614122950@email.1and1.co.uk>

I'm just reading Alan Johnson's latest memoir - In My Life. He writes about sitting watching Our World in 1967 when The Beatles came on singing All You Need is Love, live from Abbey Road - & I'd always thought they were in TC1! Which is right?

John


From jpn at imixmics.co.uk  Mon Oct 15 09:37:24 2018
From: jpn at imixmics.co.uk (John Nottage)
Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2018 15:37:24 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Email Test - Ignore
Message-ID: <c73f4b8c-e39c-5264-0255-4316e7d3a6bd@imixmics.co.uk>

Trying something


From alawrance1 at me.com  Mon Oct 15 09:39:49 2018
From: alawrance1 at me.com (Alasdair Lawrance)
Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2018 15:39:49 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Our World
In-Reply-To: <2068978778.161712.1539614122950@email.1and1.co.uk>
References: <2068978778.161712.1539614122950@email.1and1.co.uk>
Message-ID: <7187B284-D5E0-4581-AB7B-C99532FB6C92@me.com>

Abbey Road it was, John. I think TC1 was the linking hub, but I may be wrong.

Others on the list will know!


Alasdair Lawrance
alawrance1 at me.com

Sent from my iPhone4




On 15 Oct 2018, at 15:35, John Nottage via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:

I'm just reading Alan Johnson's latest memoir - In My Life. He writes about sitting watching Our World in 1967 when The Beatles came on singing All You Need is Love, live from Abbey Road - & I'd always thought they were in TC1! Which is right?

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From peter.neill at icloud.com  Mon Oct 15 09:43:08 2018
From: peter.neill at icloud.com (Peter Neill)
Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2018 15:43:08 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Our World
In-Reply-To: <2068978778.161712.1539614122950@email.1and1.co.uk>
References: <2068978778.161712.1539614122950@email.1and1.co.uk>
Message-ID: <A7980F11-1F45-45C1-90C5-077D2EAD222C@icloud.com>

Very definitely live OB from Abbey Road. B&W but (relatively) recently colourised by Apple (The Beatles one). 

Sent from my iPhone. Apologies for typos and autocorruptions. 

> On 15 Oct 2018, at 15:35, John Nottage via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> I'm just reading Alan Johnson's latest memoir - In My Life. He writes about sitting watching Our World in 1967 when The Beatles came on singing All You Need is Love, live from Abbey Road - & I'd always thought they were in TC1! Which is right?
> 
> John
> 
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From tonycrake at gmail.com  Mon Oct 15 09:49:17 2018
From: tonycrake at gmail.com (Tony Crake)
Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2018 15:49:17 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Our World
In-Reply-To: <2068978778.161712.1539614122950@email.1and1.co.uk>
References: <2068978778.161712.1539614122950@email.1and1.co.uk>
Message-ID: <CAMf6fxWaCWeQYNs-jTbtPyEXSbPe1DqDS9WGkxeLt1rSorH3UA@mail.gmail.com>

Abbey Road I think

On Mon, 15 Oct 2018 at 15:35, John Nottage via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
wrote:

> I'm just reading Alan Johnson's latest memoir - In My Life. He writes
> about sitting watching Our World in 1967 when The Beatles came on singing
> All You Need is Love, live from Abbey Road - & I'd always thought they were
> in TC1! Which is right?
>
> John
>
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From robert.miles at soundsuper.co.uk  Mon Oct 15 09:58:31 2018
From: robert.miles at soundsuper.co.uk (Robert Miles)
Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2018 10:58:31 -0400
Subject: [Tech1] Our World
In-Reply-To: <2068978778.161712.1539614122950@email.1and1.co.uk>
References: <2068978778.161712.1539614122950@email.1and1.co.uk>
Message-ID: <000601d46497$8f90fc70$aeb2f550$@soundsuper.co.uk>

Definitely Abbey Road. My dad looked after the TV publicity with Aubrey
Singer as producer.
Some links -
https://www.thebeatles.com/feature/our-world-global-satellite-broadcast
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Our_World_(TV_special)

Rob


I'm just reading Alan Johnson's latest memoir - In My Life. He writes about
sitting watching Our World in 1967 when The Beatles came on singing All You
Need is Love, live from Abbey Road - & I'd always thought they were in TC1!
Which is right?

John

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From bernie833 at gmail.com  Mon Oct 15 10:19:39 2018
From: bernie833 at gmail.com (Bernard Newnham)
Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2018 16:19:39 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Our World
In-Reply-To: <2068978778.161712.1539614122950@email.1and1.co.uk>
References: <2068978778.161712.1539614122950@email.1and1.co.uk>
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This has been a big deal on various anorak forums in the past.? Which OB 
unit? Was it colour? Where was it?

The answer to where is Abbey Road.

Wikipedia has a page about Our World, and colourising the Beatles 
section.? I think the OB unit wasn't BBC - someone else will know.

B



On 15/10/2018 15:35, John Nottage via Tech1 wrote:
> I'm just reading Alan Johnson's latest memoir - In My Life. He writes about sitting watching Our World in 1967 when The Beatles came on singing All You Need is Love, live from Abbey Road - & I'd always thought they were in TC1! Which is right?
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From neil at dormand.eclipse.co.uk  Mon Oct 15 10:21:50 2018
From: neil at dormand.eclipse.co.uk (Neil Dormand)
Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2018 16:21:50 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Our World
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John 

The programme was controlled and linked from TC1. The Beatles and friends
were live from Abbey Road.

Neil Dormand

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Subject: [Tech1] Our World

I'm just reading Alan Johnson's latest memoir - In My Life. He writes about
sitting watching Our World in 1967 when The Beatles came on singing All You
Need is Love, live from Abbey Road - & I'd always thought they were in TC1!
Which is right?

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From gary_critcher at yahoo.com  Mon Oct 15 10:23:10 2018
From: gary_critcher at yahoo.com (Gary Critcher)
Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2018 15:23:10 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Tech1] Our World
In-Reply-To: <4cf40b67-2092-c85f-c13c-46276dca83c0@ntlworld.com>
References: <2068978778.161712.1539614122950@email.1and1.co.uk>
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would this pic help?
? Gary 

    On Monday, 15 October 2018, 16:20, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
 

  This has been a big deal on various anorak forums in the past.? Which OB unit? Was it colour? Where was it?
 
 The answer to where is Abbey Road. 
 
 Wikipedia has a page about Our World, and colourising the Beatles section.? I think the OB unit wasn't BBC - someone else will know.
 
 B
 
 
 
 On 15/10/2018 15:35, John Nottage via Tech1 wrote:
  
 I'm just reading Alan Johnson's latest memoir - In My Life. He writes about sitting watching Our World in 1967 when The Beatles came on singing All You Need is Love, live from Abbey Road - & I'd always thought they were in TC1! Which is right?

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From rogerbunce at btinternet.com  Mon Oct 15 11:17:24 2018
From: rogerbunce at btinternet.com (ROGER BUNCE)
Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2018 16:17:24 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Tech1] RE- Here's an Oddity
References: <476022570.15242361.1539620244784.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <476022570.15242361.1539620244784@mail.yahoo.com>

Information in from Pete Booth - the names of those Scene Men:
Petes Booth and Fox agree that the second from the right is Frank Sandler.Mr Booth thinks that the second from the left is Terry Housego (who he once met on the summit of Mount Teide on Gran Canaria), and two of the others are members of Frank' crew: Ron Hasler and John (something?).
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From peter.neill at icloud.com  Mon Oct 15 12:01:46 2018
From: peter.neill at icloud.com (Peter Neill)
Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2018 18:01:46 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Our World
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I think TC2 was involved in some way as well. 

I didn?t work on it, but I remember being in the canteen at lunchtime a couple of days before, when the message came over the Tannoy: ?PBX calling anyone from the Our World programme?. There was a loud laugh and almost everybody stood up. 

I?d be surprised if it wasn?t a BBC OB unit?there weren?t that many indies around in those days and I?d have thought they?d have kept such a prestigious thing in house. Although it was a huge co-ordination operation and the studio programme went on for hours there wasn?t a great deal of other commitment so I don?t think OBs would have been stretched apart from the weekend sport (it was a Sunday)

Sent from my iPhone. Apologies for typos and autocorruptions. 

> On 15 Oct 2018, at 16:21, Neil Dormand via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> John 
> 
> The programme was controlled and linked from TC1. The Beatles and friends
> were live from Abbey Road.
> 
> Neil Dormand
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tech1 [mailto:tech1-bounces at tech-ops.co.uk] On Behalf Of John Nottage
> via Tech1
> Sent: 15 October 2018 15:35
> To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
> Subject: [Tech1] Our World
> 
> I'm just reading Alan Johnson's latest memoir - In My Life. He writes about
> sitting watching Our World in 1967 when The Beatles came on singing All You
> Need is Love, live from Abbey Road - & I'd always thought they were in TC1!
> Which is right?
> 
> John
> 
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From mikej at bmanor.co.uk  Mon Oct 15 12:22:05 2018
From: mikej at bmanor.co.uk (Mike Jordan)
Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2018 18:22:05 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Our World
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Correct.
See attached!



Mike


-----Original Message----- 
From: Peter Neill via Tech1 
Sent: Monday, October 15, 2018 6:01 PM 
To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk 
Subject: Re: [Tech1] Our World 

I think TC2 was involved in some way as well. 

I didn?t work on it, but I remember being in the canteen at lunchtime a couple of days before, when the message came over the Tannoy: ?PBX calling anyone from the Our World programme?. There was a loud laugh and almost everybody stood up. 

I?d be surprised if it wasn?t a BBC OB unit?there weren?t that many indies around in those days and I?d have thought they?d have kept such a prestigious thing in house. Although it was a huge co-ordination operation and the studio programme went on for hours there wasn?t a great deal of other commitment so I don?t think OBs would have been stretched apart from the weekend sport (it was a Sunday)

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From dave.mdv at btinternet.com  Mon Oct 15 12:32:15 2018
From: dave.mdv at btinternet.com (dave.mdv)
Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2018 18:32:15 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Our World
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I was the gram. op. in TC1 and the Fab 4 were certainly not there! I had 
to edit the opening music tape to shorten it because the USSR had opted 
out of the program. The master tape was a recording of the Vienna Phil. 
and arrived on a single sided 10?" reel! Needless to say, I copied it 
straight away before getting the razor blade out! Cheers, Dave.


From ohbytheway.tv at gmail.com  Mon Oct 15 12:53:14 2018
From: ohbytheway.tv at gmail.com (David Denness)
Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2018 18:53:14 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Our World
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The OB unit was supplied by Intertel VTR Services

 

Dave D

 

From: Tech1 <tech1-bounces at tech-ops.co.uk> On Behalf Of Bernard Newnham via Tech1
Sent: 15 October 2018 16:20
To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
Cc: Bernard Newnham <bernie833 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Tech1] Our World

 

This has been a big deal on various anorak forums in the past.  Which OB unit? Was it colour? Where was it?

The answer to where is Abbey Road. 

Wikipedia has a page about Our World, and colourising the Beatles section.  I think the OB unit wasn't BBC - someone else will know.

B




On 15/10/2018 15:35, John Nottage via Tech1 wrote:

I'm just reading Alan Johnson's latest memoir - In My Life. He writes about sitting watching Our World in 1967 when The Beatles came on singing All You Need is Love, live from Abbey Road - & I'd always thought they were in TC1! Which is right?
 
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From geoffreyhawkes at btinternet.com  Mon Oct 15 13:00:20 2018
From: geoffreyhawkes at btinternet.com (Geoff Hawkes)
Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2018 19:00:20 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Our World
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I was on Crew 2 at the time and we worked on Our World, John may have been
there too as he was on Crew 2 for a while or worked with us and I can still
picture him as a young man from those days.

I can't remember much about the show apart from there being a large hanging
globe and their logo of a man holding a globe above him, similar to the logo
of the Prostate Cancer Charity. I think there was a satellite link-up, how
many ways I can't remember, that was a major feature of the show if not the
driving factor, the technology being new.

Haven't we discussed this subject before?

It's a bit like the story Mike Giles? told us about the group of friends who
every ten years got together to celebrate their birthdays going to the same
pub each time but for different reasons. Aged thirty it was because they
liked the waitresses in mini-skirts (must've been in the '60s), aged forty
because they liked the music, aged fifty because they liked the food, at
sixty because the place was handy - and at seventy because they hadn't been
there before and thought they'd give it a try!  He told it better than me
and I wish I'd kept a copy, though I probably wouldn't remember where.

Geoff Hawkes


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via Tech1
Sent: 15 October 2018 15:35
To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
Subject: [Tech1] Our World

I'm just reading Alan Johnson's latest memoir - In My Life. He writes about
sitting watching Our World in 1967 when The Beatles came on singing All You
Need is Love, live from Abbey Road - & I'd always thought they were in TC1!
Which is right?

John

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From ohbytheway.tv at gmail.com  Mon Oct 15 13:36:57 2018
From: ohbytheway.tv at gmail.com (David Denness)
Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2018 19:36:57 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Our World
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References: <2068978778.161712.1539614122950@email.1and1.co.uk>
	<4cf40b67-2092-c85f-c13c-46276dca83c0@ntlworld.com>
Message-ID: <000001d464b6$0dd84610$2988d230$@gmail.com>

The OB unit was supplied by Intertel VTR Services, the reason being as they had PC60 Philips colour cameras and colour VTR capability they could record the rehearsal in 525 NTSC colour for the US market and do the TX in 625 PAL

 

Dave D

 

From: Tech1 <tech1-bounces at tech-ops.co.uk> On Behalf Of Bernard Newnham via Tech1
Sent: 15 October 2018 16:20
To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
Cc: Bernard Newnham <bernie833 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Tech1] Our World

 

This has been a big deal on various anorak forums in the past.  Which OB unit? Was it colour? Where was it?

The answer to where is Abbey Road. 

Wikipedia has a page about Our World, and colourising the Beatles section.  I think the OB unit wasn't BBC - someone else will know.

B



On 15/10/2018 15:35, John Nottage via Tech1 wrote:

I'm just reading Alan Johnson's latest memoir - In My Life. He writes about sitting watching Our World in 1967 when The Beatles came on singing All You Need is Love, live from Abbey Road - & I'd always thought they were in TC1! Which is right?
 
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From tonynuttall at me.com  Mon Oct 15 13:56:08 2018
From: tonynuttall at me.com (William Nuttall)
Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2018 18:56:08 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [Tech1] Beatles, Abbey Road?  B&W Scanner? When?
Message-ID: <e1989ade-2fb0-4df2-93d4-c6608821ef4f@me.com>


This weeks quiz.

BBC Vehicle at Abbey Road ? ?Reg. No ?? ?When ? ?Tech Boxes on the floor ,
B&W TV Scanner ? BBC Radio Vehicle, probably not.

More Questions than answers!
Tony N in the wilds of Cumbria (part of the Great Northern Power House!)

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From dudley.darby at gmail.com  Mon Oct 15 14:14:58 2018
From: dudley.darby at gmail.com (Dudley Darby)
Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2018 20:14:58 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] FW:  Our World
Message-ID: <A0BD9CA5788C43FC958E96F0F6130ACC@CustomPC>



I was there too, Geoff, steering one pair of crane wheels. For lack of
anything better, Mike Manning got an in-shot payment for being set dressing,
walking across the floor and climbing onto the back of a Heron. Darryl Blake
directed the studio and the Vienna Boys Choir recorded the music - still got
an acetate of it somewhere.

Dudley

Dudley C. Darby
FGTC 1402
Email: Dudley.Darby at gmail.com
 

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-----Original Message-----
From: Tech1 [mailto:tech1-bounces at tech-ops.co.uk] On Behalf Of Geoff Hawkes
via Tech1
Sent: 15 October 2018 19:00
To: 'John Nottage'; tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
Subject: Re: [Tech1] Our World

I was on Crew 2 at the time and we worked on Our World, John may have been
there too as he was on Crew 2 for a while or worked with us and I can still
picture him as a young man from those days.

I can't remember much about the show apart from there being a large hanging
globe and their logo of a man holding a globe above him, similar to the logo
of the Prostate Cancer Charity. I think there was a satellite link-up, how
many ways I can't remember, that was a major feature of the show if not the
driving factor, the technology being new.

Haven't we discussed this subject before?

It's a bit like the story Mike Giles? told us about the group of friends who
every ten years got together to celebrate their birthdays going to the same
pub each time but for different reasons. Aged thirty it was because they
liked the waitresses in mini-skirts (must've been in the '60s), aged forty
because they liked the music, aged fifty because they liked the food, at
sixty because the place was handy - and at seventy because they hadn't been
there before and thought they'd give it a try!  He told it better than me
and I wish I'd kept a copy, though I probably wouldn't remember where.

Geoff Hawkes


-----Original Message-----
From: Tech1 [mailto:tech1-bounces at tech-ops.co.uk] On Behalf Of John Nottage
via Tech1
Sent: 15 October 2018 15:35
To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
Subject: [Tech1] Our World

I'm just reading Alan Johnson's latest memoir - In My Life. He writes about
sitting watching Our World in 1967 when The Beatles came on singing All You
Need is Love, live from Abbey Road - & I'd always thought they were in TC1!
Which is right?

John

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From peter.neill at icloud.com  Mon Oct 15 14:20:52 2018
From: peter.neill at icloud.com (Peter Neill)
Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2018 20:20:52 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Our World
In-Reply-To: <000001d464b6$0dd84610$2988d230$@gmail.com>
References: <2068978778.161712.1539614122950@email.1and1.co.uk>
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That?s a very good reason which I hadn?t thought of!

Presumably the 525 version no longer exists, otherwise why go to the bother of colouring the B&W version. 

Sent from my iPhone. Apologies for typos and autocorruptions. 

> On 15 Oct 2018, at 19:36, David Denness via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> The OB unit was supplied by Intertel VTR Services, the reason being as they had PC60 Philips colour cameras and colour VTR capability they could record the rehearsal in 525 NTSC colour for the US market and do the TX in 625 PAL
>  
> Dave D
>  
> From: Tech1 <tech1-bounces at tech-ops.co.uk> On Behalf Of Bernard Newnham via Tech1
> Sent: 15 October 2018 16:20
> To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
> Cc: Bernard Newnham <bernie833 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Tech1] Our World
>  
> This has been a big deal on various anorak forums in the past.  Which OB unit? Was it colour? Where was it?
> 
> The answer to where is Abbey Road. 
> 
> Wikipedia has a page about Our World, and colourising the Beatles section.  I think the OB unit wasn't BBC - someone else will know.
> 
> B
> 
> 
> On 15/10/2018 15:35, John Nottage via Tech1 wrote:
> I'm just reading Alan Johnson's latest memoir - In My Life. He writes about sitting watching Our World in 1967 when The Beatles came on singing All You Need is Love, live from Abbey Road - & I'd always thought they were in TC1! Which is right?
>  
> John
>  
>  
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From gary_critcher at yahoo.com  Mon Oct 15 14:34:43 2018
From: gary_critcher at yahoo.com (Gary Critcher)
Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2018 19:34:43 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Tech1] Our World
References: <1754173028.15469024.1539632083519.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
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Being somewhat a Beatles fan I've never seen any rehearsal footage whatsoever.  I'm thinking that if it existed Apple would have used it by now





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On Mon, 15/10/18, Peter Neill via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [Tech1] Our World
 To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
 Date: Monday, 15 October, 2018, 21:20
 
 That?s a
 very good reason which I hadn?t thought of!
 Presumably the 525 version no longer
 exists, otherwise why go to the bother of colouring the
 B&W version.?
 
 Sent from my
 iPhone. Apologies for typos and autocorruptions.?
 On 15 Oct 2018, at 19:36, David Denness via
 Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
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 was supplied by Intertel VTR Services, the reason being as
 they had PC60 Philips colour cameras and colour VTR
 capability they could record the rehearsal in 525 NTSC
 colour for the US market and do the TX in 625
 PAL ?Dave
 D ?From: Tech1
 <tech1-bounces at tech-ops.co.uk>
 On Behalf Of Bernard Newnham via Tech1
 Sent: 15 October 2018 16:20
 To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
 Cc: Bernard Newnham <bernie833 at gmail.com>
 Subject: Re: [Tech1] Our
 World ?This has been a
 big deal on various anorak forums in the past.? Which OB
 unit? Was it colour? Where was it?
 
 The answer to where is Abbey Road. 
 
 Wikipedia has a page about Our
 World, and colourising the Beatles section.? I think the OB
 unit wasn't BBC - someone else will know.
 
 B
 
 On 15/10/2018 15:35, John
 Nottage via Tech1 wrote:I'm
 just reading Alan Johnson's latest memoir - In My Life.
 He writes about sitting watching Our World in 1967 when The
 Beatles came on singing All You Need is Love, live from
 Abbey Road - & I'd always thought they were in TC1!
 Which is right? ?John
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From robin.sutherland at ukgateway.net  Mon Oct 15 16:45:42 2018
From: robin.sutherland at ukgateway.net (Robin Sutherland)
Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2018 22:45:42 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Beatles, Abbey Road?  B&W Scanner? When?
In-Reply-To: <e1989ade-2fb0-4df2-93d4-c6608821ef4f@me.com>
References: <e1989ade-2fb0-4df2-93d4-c6608821ef4f@me.com>
Message-ID: <D28360ED-4746-4091-AB31-7850E7D19F7E@ukgateway.net>

After consulting my expert friend Brian Summers [currently owner and restorer of MCR21] I can tell you that the BBC vehicle behind John Lennon is either MCR 27, AYH 710B originally allocated to Glasgow or MCR 28, AYH 711B allocated to Bristol, West Region. These were the last two monochrome BBC OB scanners manufactured of a run of ten and all had Pye Mk6 4.5 IO cameras. My guess is that it was more likely to have been the Bristol scanner purely on the logistics.

Interesting that My World was transmitted on 25th June 1967 and at that time the BBC did have one Colour scanner in service, the brand new CMCR1 with Philips/Peto Scott PC60 cameras but it wouldn?t have been available for this as it was at Wimbledon making history producing the first colour transmission in Europe from Centre Court.

I have a feeling this has all been discussed before a while ago but most opinion I can discover says the My World insert was originally shot monochrome and colourised later, but Dave D may well be correct. Were the photos of the BBC scanner & Beatles taken at the My World shoot or some other occasion?

Cheers

Robin S


> On 15 Oct 2018, at 19:56, William Nuttall via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> 
> This weeks quiz.
> 
> BBC Vehicle at Abbey Road ?  Reg. No  ?  When ?  Tech Boxes on the floor ,
> B&W TV Scanner ? BBC Radio Vehicle, probably not.
> 
> More Questions than answers!
> Tony N in the wilds of Cumbria (part of the Great Northern Power House!)
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From tonycrake at gmail.com  Mon Oct 15 16:48:17 2018
From: tonycrake at gmail.com (Tony Crake)
Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2018 22:48:17 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] FW: Our World
In-Reply-To: <A0BD9CA5788C43FC958E96F0F6130ACC@CustomPC>
References: <A0BD9CA5788C43FC958E96F0F6130ACC@CustomPC>
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Mike , now you have weighed in with your ICR Map... jogs my memory ! I was
only part of a "rigging crew" ( odd thing to have at TVC ? ) We had to
construct

six or so foreign commentary booths in the corner of TC2  ... Some very
heavy drum screens and some Sound Radio goosneck table stands with  4038

mikes..... But ( thanks be.. ) did not have to derig them !!!


On Mon, 15 Oct 2018 at 20:26, Dudley Darby via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
wrote:

>
>
> I was there too, Geoff, steering one pair of crane wheels. For lack of
> anything better, Mike Manning got an in-shot payment for being set
> dressing,
> walking across the floor and climbing onto the back of a Heron. Darryl
> Blake
> directed the studio and the Vienna Boys Choir recorded the music - still
> got
> an acetate of it somewhere.
>
> Dudley
>
> Dudley C. Darby
> FGTC 1402
> Email: Dudley.Darby at gmail.com
>
>
> P Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tech1 [mailto:tech1-bounces at tech-ops.co.uk] On Behalf Of Geoff
> Hawkes
> via Tech1
> Sent: 15 October 2018 19:00
> To: 'John Nottage'; tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
> Subject: Re: [Tech1] Our World
>
> I was on Crew 2 at the time and we worked on Our World, John may have been
> there too as he was on Crew 2 for a while or worked with us and I can still
> picture him as a young man from those days.
>
> I can't remember much about the show apart from there being a large hanging
> globe and their logo of a man holding a globe above him, similar to the
> logo
> of the Prostate Cancer Charity. I think there was a satellite link-up, how
> many ways I can't remember, that was a major feature of the show if not the
> driving factor, the technology being new.
>
> Haven't we discussed this subject before?
>
> It's a bit like the story Mike Giles? told us about the group of friends
> who
> every ten years got together to celebrate their birthdays going to the same
> pub each time but for different reasons. Aged thirty it was because they
> liked the waitresses in mini-skirts (must've been in the '60s), aged forty
> because they liked the music, aged fifty because they liked the food, at
> sixty because the place was handy - and at seventy because they hadn't been
> there before and thought they'd give it a try!  He told it better than me
> and I wish I'd kept a copy, though I probably wouldn't remember where.
>
> Geoff Hawkes
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tech1 [mailto:tech1-bounces at tech-ops.co.uk] On Behalf Of John
> Nottage
> via Tech1
> Sent: 15 October 2018 15:35
> To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
> Subject: [Tech1] Our World
>
> I'm just reading Alan Johnson's latest memoir - In My Life. He writes about
> sitting watching Our World in 1967 when The Beatles came on singing All You
> Need is Love, live from Abbey Road - & I'd always thought they were in TC1!
> Which is right?
>
> John
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From gary_critcher at yahoo.com  Mon Oct 15 16:51:52 2018
From: gary_critcher at yahoo.com (Gary Critcher)
Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2018 21:51:52 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Tech1] Beatles, Abbey Road?  B&W Scanner? When?
References: <713318244.11532215.1539640312897.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <713318244.11532215.1539640312897@mail.yahoo.com>

Yes, the colour photos of The Beatles and scanner were taken on the morning of the show/transmission



--------------------------------------------
On Mon, 15/10/18, Robin Sutherland via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [Tech1] Beatles, Abbey Road?  B&W Scanner? When?
 To: "TechOps Forum" <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
 Date: Monday, 15 October, 2018, 23:45
 
 After consulting my expert friend Brian
 Summers [currently owner and restorer of MCR21] I can tell
 you that the BBC vehicle behind John Lennon is either MCR
 27, AYH 710B originally allocated to Glasgow or MCR 28, AYH
 711B allocated to Bristol, West Region. These were the last
 two monochrome BBC OB scanners manufactured of a run of ten
 and all had Pye Mk6 4.5 IO cameras. My guess is that it was
 more likely to have been the Bristol scanner purely on the
 logistics.
 
 Interesting that My World was
 transmitted on 25th June 1967 and at that time the BBC did
 have one Colour scanner in service, the brand new CMCR1 with
 Philips/Peto Scott PC60 cameras but it wouldn?t have been
 available for this as it was at Wimbledon making history
 producing the first colour transmission in Europe from
 Centre Court.
 
 I have a feeling this has all been
 discussed before a while ago but most opinion I can discover
 says the My World insert was originally shot monochrome and
 colourised later, but Dave D may well be correct. Were the
 photos of the BBC scanner & Beatles taken at the My
 World shoot or some other occasion?
 
 Cheers
 
 Robin S
 
 
 > On 15 Oct 2018, at 19:56, William
 Nuttall via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
 wrote:
 > 
 > 
 > This weeks quiz.
 > 
 > BBC Vehicle at Abbey Road ??
 Reg. No? ?? When ?? Tech Boxes on the floor
 ,
 > B&W TV Scanner ? BBC Radio
 Vehicle, probably not.
 > 
 > More Questions than answers!
 > Tony N in the wilds of Cumbria
 (part of the Great Northern Power House!)
 > 
 >
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From alec.bray.2 at gmail.com  Mon Oct 15 16:52:42 2018
From: alec.bray.2 at gmail.com (Alec Bray)
Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2018 22:52:42 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Beatles, Abbey Road? B&W Scanner? When?
In-Reply-To: <D28360ED-4746-4091-AB31-7850E7D19F7E@ukgateway.net>
References: <e1989ade-2fb0-4df2-93d4-c6608821ef4f@me.com>
	<D28360ED-4746-4091-AB31-7850E7D19F7E@ukgateway.net>
Message-ID: <CAA0HHB1-tzTPZD4_ja37iwn3SWxxFr=2oSFvay=LxMO0jSSy0Q@mail.gmail.com>

There is a conversation about this on the Tech Ops web site: search Our
World.
BR Alec

sent from my mobile phone. Apologies for any strange autocorrections.

On Mon, 15 Oct 2018, 22:46 Robin Sutherland via Tech1, <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
wrote:

> After consulting my expert friend Brian Summers [currently owner and
> restorer of MCR21] I can tell you that the BBC vehicle behind John Lennon
> is either MCR 27, AYH 710B originally allocated to Glasgow or MCR 28, AYH
> 711B allocated to Bristol, West Region. These were the last two monochrome
> BBC OB scanners manufactured of a run of ten and all had Pye Mk6 4.5 IO
> cameras. My guess is that it was more likely to have been the Bristol
> scanner purely on the logistics.
>
> Interesting that My World was transmitted on 25th June 1967 and at that
> time the BBC did have one Colour scanner in service, the brand new CMCR1
> with Philips/Peto Scott PC60 cameras but it wouldn?t have been available
> for this as it was at Wimbledon making history producing the first colour
> transmission in Europe from Centre Court.
>
> I have a feeling this has all been discussed before a while ago but most
> opinion I can discover says the My World insert was originally shot
> monochrome and colourised later, but Dave D may well be correct. Were the
> photos of the BBC scanner & Beatles taken at the My World shoot or some
> other occasion?
>
> Cheers
>
> Robin S
>
>
> > On 15 Oct 2018, at 19:56, William Nuttall via Tech1 <
> tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> >
> > This weeks quiz.
> >
> > BBC Vehicle at Abbey Road ?  Reg. No  ?  When ?  Tech Boxes on the floor
> ,
> > B&W TV Scanner ? BBC Radio Vehicle, probably not.
> >
> > More Questions than answers!
> > Tony N in the wilds of Cumbria (part of the Great Northern Power House!)
> >
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From pat.heigham at btinternet.com  Tue Oct 16 04:08:27 2018
From: pat.heigham at btinternet.com (patheigham)
Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 10:08:27 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] RE- Here's an Oddity
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Teide is on Tenerife, Rog.
Been there, done that!
Pat

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From: ROGER BUNCE via Tech1
Sent: 15 October 2018 17:18
To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
Subject: [Tech1] RE- Here's an Oddity

Information in from Pete Booth - the names of those Scene Men:

Petes Booth and Fox agree that the second from the right is Frank Sandler.
Mr Booth thinks that the second from the left is Terry Housego (who he once met on the summit of Mount Teide on Gran Canaria), and two of the others are members of Frank' crew: Ron Hasler and John (something?).

luv, Rog.



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From ohbytheway.tv at gmail.com  Tue Oct 16 06:22:44 2018
From: ohbytheway.tv at gmail.com (David Denness)
Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 12:22:44 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] RE- Here's an Oddity
In-Reply-To: <5bc5ab20.1c69fb81.2b8af.f41eSMTPIN_ADDED_BROKEN@mx.google.com>
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Of course!

 

From: Tech1 <tech1-bounces at tech-ops.co.uk> On Behalf Of patheigham via Tech1
Sent: 16 October 2018 10:08
To: ROGER BUNCE <rogerbunce at btinternet.com>; tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
Subject: Re: [Tech1] RE- Here's an Oddity

 

Teide is on Tenerife, Rog.

Been there, done that!

Pat

 

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From: ROGER BUNCE via Tech1 <mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> 
Sent: 15 October 2018 17:18
To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
Subject: [Tech1] RE- Here's an Oddity

 

Information in from Pete Booth - the names of those Scene Men:

 

Petes Booth and Fox agree that the second from the right is Frank Sandler.

Mr Booth thinks that the second from the left is Terry Housego (who he once met on the summit of Mount Teide on Gran Canaria), and two of the others are members of Frank' crew: Ron Hasler and John (something?).

 

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From patheigham at amps.net  Tue Oct 16 07:57:47 2018
From: patheigham at amps.net (patheigham)
Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 13:57:47 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Tenerife was Here's an Oddity
In-Reply-To: <001401d46542$8f6a6af0$ae3f40d0$@gmail.com>
References: <476022570.15242361.1539620244784.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
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Visiting Tenerife for some sun after a Christmas, renting a car,
and driving up the spine of the island was a nail-biting nightmare
sequence, as the narrow spine road had no safety barriers
and a 45 degree scree slope either side.
If one had drifted off the road, there was nothing to prevent
a downward journey until launched into the Atlantic!

I gather that there is a volcanic fault in the Canaries, which if a huge mass
breaks off and collapses into the ocean ,it could cause
a tidal wave which might well engulf New York!
Now that could be a plot for a Bond film ? to have the villain
intending to start the split! (with POTUS standing on the top
of the Statue of Liberty so as not to get his feet wet!)
https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/865079/La-Palma-volcano-eruption-mega-tsunami-warning-Spain-Europe-alert-Cumbre-Vieja-tenerife
Pat


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From: David Denness via Tech1
Sent: 16 October 2018 12:23
To: 'patheigham'; 'ROGER BUNCE'
Cc: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
Subject: Re: [Tech1] RE- Here's an Oddity

Of course!



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From davidpcarter at btinternet.com  Tue Oct 16 08:07:16 2018
From: davidpcarter at btinternet.com (David Carter)
Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 14:07:16 +0100 (BST)
Subject: [Tech1] Tenerife was Here's an Oddity
In-Reply-To: <5bc5e04a.1c69fb81.ea617.2df0@mx.google.com>
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I just hope it doesn't occur at the same time as Etna falling into the Med.  http://imbibe.com/news-articles/drinks/mount-etna-sliding-sea-say-scientists/
David
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Date : 16/10/2018 - 13:57 (BST)
To : ohbytheway.tv at gmail.com, pat.heigham at btinternet.com, rogerbunce at btinternet.com
Cc : tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
Subject : Re: [Tech1] Tenerife was Here's an Oddity
Visiting Tenerife for some sun after a Christmas, renting a car,
and driving up the spine of the island was a nail-biting nightmare
sequence, as the narrow spine road had no safety barriers
and a 45 degree scree slope either side.
If one had drifted off the road, there was nothing to prevent
a downward journey until launched into the Atlantic!
 
I gather that there is a volcanic fault in the Canaries, which if a huge mass
breaks off and collapses into the ocean ,it could cause
a tidal wave which might well engulf New York!
Now that could be a plot for a Bond film ? to have the villain
intending to start the split! (with POTUS standing on the top
of the Statue of Liberty so as not to get his feet wet!)
https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/865079/La-Palma-volcano-eruption-mega-tsunami-warning-Spain-Europe-alert-Cumbre-Vieja-tenerife
Pat
 
 
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
 
From: David Denness via Tech1
Sent: 16 October 2018 12:23
To: 'patheigham'; 'ROGER BUNCE'
Cc: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
Subject: Re: [Tech1] RE- Here's an Oddity
 
Of course!
 
	
        
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From alec.bray.2 at gmail.com  Tue Oct 16 08:44:44 2018
From: alec.bray.2 at gmail.com (Alec Bray)
Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 14:44:44 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Blue Peter 1963 - and questions ...
Message-ID: <d50f8fd4-b903-1c37-bf55-284cee28f36a@gmail.com>

Hi,

You have probably already seen the picture of Blue Peter in 1963.

I am sure that it was a crew I worked on - crew 7 - as I recognise the 
cameraman marked in red - although I can't think of his name

The yellow-arrowed gent looks to me a bit like John Henshall.



Now, what about the tracker of the Vinten Motorised?? I can get no sense 
out of the picture!


blue peter tracker


Looks like he's got Panda eyes, especially as the lower face and neck 
look like white make-up compared to the skin tones of other people in 
the picture.

It must have been a special occasion, as otherwise, why would there by a 
staff photographer in the studio.

And which studio?? Can't be "G" surely, as in 1963 that studio was being 
used every day by "Tonight".


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From pat.heigham at btinternet.com  Tue Oct 16 08:51:19 2018
From: pat.heigham at btinternet.com (patheigham)
Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 14:51:19 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Iceland was Tenerife was Here's an Oddity
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Yeah! If it wooshed out through the Straits of Gibraltar,
that could be interesting.
The Bond plot thickens, - villain planning a double hit!
Some years ago, working on a schools programme for
Thames, a shoot around Iceland was most educational
for the crew! We went to Vestmannaeyjar, an offshore
island where their volcano spat out loads of lava, which
threatened to block up the harbour, rendering the fishing
fleet useless. They played firehoses onto the flowing
lava to solidify it. This happened before our visit, but
one could put a hand down on the ground and not be
able to leave it too long as it was v. hot.
The volcano issued a load of ash which settled on the tarmac
roads of the village before the lava rolled over.
When the islanders tidied up, they discovered that the ash
had insulated the roadway from damage by the lava, so
swept it all up and flogged it to the West Germans to be
compressed into sheets for house insulation. Brilliant!
I took some 8mm cine footage of the trip, and ran it
for the crew in the equipment room at Thames Euston.
This nearly caused a strike from the Thames NAKTE
drivers, as it was obvious that we were self driving
Landrovers and they wanted to know why they weren?t
taken on the trip!
We were transported around the island by Twin Otter
Aircraft ? would they have wanted to pilot those?? 
Lovely Pam Rhodes was our on camera presenter
and rescued a baby puffin, returned to a nesting site.
Rather worryingly, puffin, in various forms was on the
hotel?s menu.
Well, we do eat chicken and conveniently ignore
little yellow fluffy chicks!
 
Pat
 
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From: David Carter via Tech1
Sent: 16 October 2018 14:07
Subject: Re: [Tech1] Tenerife was Here's an Oddity

I just hope it doesn't occur at the same time as Etna falling into the Med. ?http://imbibe.com/news-articles/drinks/mount-etna-sliding-sea-say-scientists/

David

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Cc : tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
Subject : Re: [Tech1] Tenerife was Here's an Oddity
Visiting Tenerife for some sun after a Christmas, renting a car,
and driving up the spine of the island was a nail-biting nightmare
sequence, as the narrow spine road had no safety barriers
and a 45 degree scree slope either side.
If one had drifted off the road, there was nothing to prevent
a downward journey until launched into the Atlantic!
?
I gather that there is a volcanic fault in the Canaries, which if a huge mass
breaks off and collapses into the ocean ,it could cause
a tidal wave which might well engulf New York!
Now that could be a plot for a Bond film ? to have the villain
intending to start the split! (with POTUS standing on the top
of the Statue of Liberty so as not to get his feet wet!)
https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/865079/La-Palma-volcano-eruption-mega-tsunami-warning-Spain-Europe-alert-Cumbre-Vieja-tenerife
Pat
?
?



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From pat.heigham at btinternet.com  Tue Oct 16 09:01:46 2018
From: pat.heigham at btinternet.com (patheigham)
Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 15:01:46 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Blue Peter 1963 - and questions ...
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Never remember Tonight from LG G. Surely it was D or E?
G was usually Grandstand or maybe TOTP?
Ah! The old CPS Emitrons ? highly unstable and used to great
effect to render both the video howlround for Dr.Who title
and the Daleks? zapper.
Cameraman on red arrow ? Ian? Maybe went to Crew 3?
Pat
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From: Alec Bray via Tech1
Sent: 16 October 2018 14:45
To: Tech Ops
Subject: [Tech1] Blue Peter 1963 - and questions ...

Hi,
You have probably already seen the picture of Blue Peter in 1963.
I am sure that it was a crew I worked on - crew 7 - as I recognise the cameraman marked in red - although I can't think of his name 
The yellow-arrowed gent looks to me a bit like John Henshall.



Now, what about the tracker of the Vinten Motorised?? I can get no sense out of the picture!




Looks like he's got Panda eyes, especially as the lower face and neck look like white make-up compared to the skin tones of other people in the picture.

It must have been a special occasion, as otherwise, why would there by a staff photographer in the studio.

And which studio?? Can't be "G" surely, as in 1963 that studio was being used every day by "Tonight".

-- 

Best Regards

Alec

Alec Bray

alec.bray.2 at gmail.com
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From j at howell61.f9.co.uk  Tue Oct 16 09:16:06 2018
From: j at howell61.f9.co.uk (John Howell)
Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 15:16:06 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Blue Peter 1963 - and questions ...
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What about the tracker? His left elbow is resting on the quadrant of the 
speed controller & his body is twisted around to the right. His 
headphone is off his right ear & he may have a 'tash. However, it looks 
like he is in flat-out reverse should he apply the power, (was this via 
a foot-switch, I can't remember?).

I suggest it is Studio D, I did many BPs in D.

John H.



On 16/10/2018 14:44, Alec Bray via Tech1 wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> You have probably already seen the picture of Blue Peter in 1963.
>
> I am sure that it was a crew I worked on - crew 7 - as I recognise the 
> cameraman marked in red - although I can't think of his name
>
> The yellow-arrowed gent looks to me a bit like John Henshall.
>
>
>
>
> Now, what about the tracker of the Vinten Motorised?? I can get no 
> sense out of the picture!
>
>
> blue peter tracker
>
>
> Looksike he's got Panda eyes, especially as the lower face and neck 
> look like white make-up compared to the skin tones of other people in 
> the picture.
>
> It must have been a special occasion, as otherwise, why would there by 
> a staff photographer in the studio.
>
> And which studio?? Can't be "G" surely, as in 1963 that studio was 
> being used every day by "Tonight".
>
>
> -- 
>
> Best Regards
>
> Alec
>
> Alec Bray
>
> alec.bray.2 at gmail.com
> mob:    07789 561 346
> home:   0118 981 7502
>
>

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From j at howell61.f9.co.uk  Tue Oct 16 09:24:20 2018
From: j at howell61.f9.co.uk (John Howell)
Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 15:24:20 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Blue Peter 1963 - and questions ...
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I don't recall Tonight coming from anywhere OTHER than LG G.

Remember the door in wall 2 behind the main desk?

It was left open one Winter's night & the water in the fish tank froze, 
or so the story goesj

John H.

On 16/10/2018 15:01, patheigham via Tech1 wrote:
>
> Never remember Tonight from LG G. Surely it was D or E?
>
> G was usually Grandstand or maybe TOTP?
>
> Ah! The old CPS Emitrons ? highly unstable and used to great
>
> effect to render both the video howlround for Dr.Who title
>
> and the Daleks? zapper.
>
> Cameraman on red arrow ? Ian? Maybe went to Crew 3?
>
> Pat
>
> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for 
> Windows 10
>
> *From: *Alec Bray via Tech1 <mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
> *Sent: *16 October 2018 14:45
> *To: *Tech Ops <mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
> *Subject: *[Tech1] Blue Peter 1963 - and questions ...
>
> Hi,
>
> You have probably already seen the picture of Blue Peter in 1963.
>
> I am sure that it was a crew I worked on - crew 7 - as I recognise the 
> cameraman marked in red - although I can't think of his name
>
> The yellow-arrowed gent looks to me a bit like John Henshall.
>
> cid:part1.21844259.7279A271 at gmail.com
>
> Now, what about the tracker of the Vinten Motorised?? I can get no 
> sense out of the picture!
>
> blue peter tracker
>
>
> Looks like he's got Panda eyes, especially as the lower face and neck 
> look like white make-up compared to the skin tones of other people in 
> the picture.
>
> It must have been a special occasion, as otherwise, why would there by 
> a staff photographer in the studio.
>
> And which studio?? Can't be "G" surely, as in 1963 that studio was 
> being used every day by "Tonight".
>
> -- 
> Best Regards
> Alec
> Alec Bray
> alec.bray.2 at gmail.com <mailto:alec.bray.2 at gmail.com>
> mob:??? 07789 561 346
> home:?? 0118 981 7502
>
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From patheigham at amps.net  Tue Oct 16 09:35:19 2018
From: patheigham at amps.net (patheigham)
Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 15:35:19 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Blue Peter 1963 - and questions ...
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It might have been relocated, but when  I did the main boom
on Cliff?s desk, I?m certain it was D or E. Around 1962.
Pat

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From: John Howell via Tech1
Sent: 16 October 2018 15:24
Subject: Re: [Tech1] Blue Peter 1963 - and questions ...

I don't recall Tonight coming from anywhere OTHER than LG G.
Remember the door in wall 2 behind the main desk?
It was left open one Winter's night & the water in the fish tank froze, or so the story goesj
John H.



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From peterjohncombes at gmail.com  Tue Oct 16 10:15:07 2018
From: peterjohncombes at gmail.com (Peter Combes)
Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 17:15:07 +0200
Subject: [Tech1] Blue Peter 1963 - and questions ...
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Camera 2 is Martin Dilly, looking unusually smart.   When he went to Crew
3, he formed a formidable pair -- with Steve Blatchford driving -- , on the
Mole for "the Black and White Minstrel Show" and the "Billy Cotton Band
Show", sometimes pulling the crane arm out at 90 degrees at the end of a
high speed run down the TVT ramp. Ed Stewart kept his eyes close to the
viewfinder, perhaps not wanting to be reminded of what was rushing past
him.  Great days.

On Tue, 16 Oct 2018 at 16:16, John Howell via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
wrote:

> What about the tracker? His left elbow is resting on the quadrant of the
> speed controller & his body is twisted around to the right. His headphone
> is off his right ear & he may have a 'tash. However, it looks like he is in
> flat-out reverse should he apply the power, (was this via a foot-switch, I
> can't remember?).
>
> I suggest it is Studio D, I did many BPs in D.
>
> John H.
>
>
>
> On 16/10/2018 14:44, Alec Bray via Tech1 wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> You have probably already seen the picture of Blue Peter in 1963.
>
> I am sure that it was a crew I worked on - crew 7 - as I recognise the
> cameraman marked in red - although I can't think of his name
>
> The yellow-arrowed gent looks to me a bit like John Henshall.
>
>
>
>
> Now, what about the tracker of the Vinten Motorised?  I can get no sense
> out of the picture!
>
>
> [image: blue peter tracker]
>
>
> Looksike he's got Panda eyes, especially as the lower face and neck look
> like white make-up compared to the skin tones of other people in the
> picture.
>
> It must have been a special occasion, as otherwise, why would there by a
> staff photographer in the studio.
>
> And which studio?  Can't be "G" surely, as in 1963 that studio was being
> used every day by "Tonight".
>
>
> --
>
> Best Regards
>
> Alec
>
> Alec Bray
> alec.bray.2 at gmail.com
> mob:    07789 561 346
> home:   0118 981 7502
>
>
>
>
> --
> Tech1 mailing list
> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk
>
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From graeme.wall at icloud.com  Tue Oct 16 10:18:33 2018
From: graeme.wall at icloud.com (Graeme Wall)
Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 16:18:33 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Blue Peter 1963 - and questions ...
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The Vinten motorised had a foot switch for power, like the older Herons.
? 
Graeme Wall





> On 16 Oct 2018, at 15:16, John Howell via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> What about the tracker? His left elbow is resting on the quadrant of the speed controller & his body is twisted around to the right. His headphone is off his right ear & he may have a 'tash. However, it looks like he is in flat-out reverse should he apply the power, (was this via a foot-switch, I can't remember?).
> 
> I suggest it is Studio D, I did many BPs in D.
> 
> John H.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 16/10/2018 14:44, Alec Bray via Tech1 wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> You have probably already seen the picture of Blue Peter in 1963.
>> 
>> I am sure that it was a crew I worked on - crew 7 - as I recognise the cameraman marked in red - although I can't think of his name 
>> The yellow-arrowed gent looks to me a bit like John Henshall.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Now, what about the tracker of the Vinten Motorised?  I can get no sense out of the picture!
>> 
>> 
>> <blue peter tracker 1963.png>
>> 
>> 
>> Looksike he's got Panda eyes, especially as the lower face and neck look like white make-up compared to the skin tones of other people in the picture.
>> 
>> It must have been a special occasion, as otherwise, why would there by a staff photographer in the studio.
>> 
>> And which studio?  Can't be "G" surely, as in 1963 that studio was being used every day by "Tonight".
>> 
>> -- 
>> 
>> Best Regards
>> 
>> Alec
>> 
>> Alec Bray
>> 
>> 
>> alec.bray.2 at gmail.com
>> 
>> mob:    07789 561 346
>> home:   0118 981 7502
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> -- 
> Tech1 mailing list
> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk



From j at howell61.f9.co.uk  Tue Oct 16 10:34:12 2018
From: j at howell61.f9.co.uk (John Howell)
Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 16:34:12 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Blue Peter 1963 - and questions ...
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Message-ID: <6a5857ae-5592-0c88-5dd3-14d467c141b6@howell61.f9.co.uk>

You are probably right Pat, I joined in October 1962 & the Winter

of '62-'63 was particularly harsh, hence the fish tank story.

John.



On 16/10/2018 15:35, patheigham wrote:
>
> It might have been relocated, but when? I did the main boom
>
> on Cliff?s desk, I?m certain it was D or E. Around 1962.
>
> Pat
>
> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for 
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>
> *From: *John Howell via Tech1 <mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
> *Sent: *16 October 2018 15:24
> *Subject: *Re: [Tech1] Blue Peter 1963 - and questions ...
>
> I don't recall Tonight coming from anywhere OTHER than LG G.
>
> Remember the door in wall 2 behind the main desk?
>
> It was left open one Winter's night & the water in the fish tank 
> froze, or so the story goesj
>
> John H.
>
>
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From geoffletch at gmail.com  Tue Oct 16 10:43:02 2018
From: geoffletch at gmail.com (Geoff Fletcher)
Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 16:43:02 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Blue Peter 1963 - and questions ...
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Camera 2 is Martin Dilley I think. Is the guy on
 Camera 3 Ron Peveral?
Geoff F
On Tue, 16 Oct 2018 at 16:19, Graeme Wall via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
wrote:

> The Vinten motorised had a foot switch for power, like the older Herons.
> ?
> Graeme Wall
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 16 Oct 2018, at 15:16, John Howell via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
> wrote:
> >
> > What about the tracker? His left elbow is resting on the quadrant of the
> speed controller & his body is twisted around to the right. His headphone
> is off his right ear & he may have a 'tash. However, it looks like he is in
> flat-out reverse should he apply the power, (was this via a foot-switch, I
> can't remember?).
> >
> > I suggest it is Studio D, I did many BPs in D.
> >
> > John H.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 16/10/2018 14:44, Alec Bray via Tech1 wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> You have probably already seen the picture of Blue Peter in 1963.
> >>
> >> I am sure that it was a crew I worked on - crew 7 - as I recognise the
> cameraman marked in red - although I can't think of his name
> >> The yellow-arrowed gent looks to me a bit like John Henshall.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Now, what about the tracker of the Vinten Motorised?  I can get no
> sense out of the picture!
> >>
> >>
> >> <blue peter tracker 1963.png>
> >>
> >>
> >> Looksike he's got Panda eyes, especially as the lower face and neck
> look like white make-up compared to the skin tones of other people in the
> picture.
> >>
> >> It must have been a special occasion, as otherwise, why would there by
> a staff photographer in the studio.
> >>
> >> And which studio?  Can't be "G" surely, as in 1963 that studio was
> being used every day by "Tonight".
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >> Best Regards
> >>
> >> Alec
> >>
> >> Alec Bray
> >>
> >>
> >> alec.bray.2 at gmail.com
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From geoffletch at gmail.com  Tue Oct 16 10:45:13 2018
From: geoffletch at gmail.com (Geoff Fletcher)
Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 16:45:13 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Blue Peter 1963 - and questions ...
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Also - I can?t help thinking that the chap in the dark clothes foreground
looks like a young Mike Harrison?
Geoff F

On Tue, 16 Oct 2018 at 16:43, Geoff Fletcher <geoffletch at gmail.com> wrote:

> Camera 2 is Martin Dilley I think. Is the guy on
>  Camera 3 Ron Peveral?
> Geoff F
>
> On Tue, 16 Oct 2018 at 16:19, Graeme Wall via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
>> The Vinten motorised had a foot switch for power, like the older Herons.
>> ?
>> Graeme Wall
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > On 16 Oct 2018, at 15:16, John Howell via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > What about the tracker? His left elbow is resting on the quadrant of
>> the speed controller & his body is twisted around to the right. His
>> headphone is off his right ear & he may have a 'tash. However, it looks
>> like he is in flat-out reverse should he apply the power, (was this via a
>> foot-switch, I can't remember?).
>> >
>> > I suggest it is Studio D, I did many BPs in D.
>> >
>> > John H.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On 16/10/2018 14:44, Alec Bray via Tech1 wrote:
>> >> Hi,
>> >>
>> >> You have probably already seen the picture of Blue Peter in 1963.
>> >>
>> >> I am sure that it was a crew I worked on - crew 7 - as I recognise the
>> cameraman marked in red - although I can't think of his name
>> >> The yellow-arrowed gent looks to me a bit like John Henshall.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Now, what about the tracker of the Vinten Motorised?  I can get no
>> sense out of the picture!
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> <blue peter tracker 1963.png>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Looksike he's got Panda eyes, especially as the lower face and neck
>> look like white make-up compared to the skin tones of other people in the
>> picture.
>> >>
>> >> It must have been a special occasion, as otherwise, why would there by
>> a staff photographer in the studio.
>> >>
>> >> And which studio?  Can't be "G" surely, as in 1963 that studio was
>> being used every day by "Tonight".
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >>
>> >> Best Regards
>> >>
>> >> Alec
>> >>
>> >> Alec Bray
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> alec.bray.2 at gmail.com
>> >>
>> >> mob:    07789 561 346
>> >> home:   0118 981 7502
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
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From alec.bray.2 at gmail.com  Tue Oct 16 11:09:58 2018
From: alec.bray.2 at gmail.com (Alec Bray)
Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 17:09:58 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Thanks Re:  Blue Peter 1963 - and questions ...
Message-ID: <dd5aa288-b47a-5e7e-1cbf-162b4d48b0d9@gmail.com>


John Howell (and Dave Buckley) wrote:
His headphone is off his right ear

Of Course!? The black plastic STC cans - I've still got mine...?? The 
shadow(s) from those are on the side of his head.
Thanks for that, John. and Dave? It's obvious now!:? Thanks!!


Peter Combes wrote
Camera 2 is Martin Dilly,

That rings a bell ...

Pat Heigham wrote:
G was usually Grandstand

During 1963 (at least), the "Grandstand" set (including those huge 
wooden football results constructions with the slot-in teams and scores) 
was placed in front of the "Tonight" set? (including the fish tank): the 
"Tonight" flats etc were still in place over the Saturday.

"Tonight" definitely spent some time in LG G.? On one programme, the 
whole crew (4 cameras and associated gubbins and a couple of Mole booms 
(IIRC) were down the far end of G - and then (as usual) the running 
order changed, there was an interview on the rostra near the control 
room end.? Pushing all that equipment UP LG G in no seconds was no 
joke.? (LG G sloped downhill ...)

Later in the 60s, LG G hosted TOTP.

John Howell wrote:
it looks like he is in flat-out reverse

At least he's in a straight line.? The Vinten motorised was nasty. When 
I drove it, it always seemed to get faster and faster as the steering 
wheel was turned - horrible, especially on a? full left or right turn.? 
(I guess that someone will talk about angular momentum..)


Thanks, everyone!

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From patheigham at amps.net  Tue Oct 16 11:19:57 2018
From: patheigham at amps.net (patheigham)
Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 17:19:57 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Blue Peter 1963 - and questions ...
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For what it?s worth:
BBC Career

25/09/1961
Joined BBC
02/10/1961
To Crew 2 TVC
13/01/1962
Sound Crew 2
Mar-62
Evesham PTO Course #13
27/08/1962
To Crew 3 Sound Relief
16/10/1962
Unestablished Confirmation
31/08/1963
S.A. (G) Crew 2
11/11/1963
Grams Training
01/02/1964
Established
23/02/1964
S.A.II Grams (Acting C-)
01/05/1964
Substantive C-
30/06/1964
Car List
31/12/1964
Applied for STO Course
15/03/1965
Applied for Sound Training
08/11/1965
Sound Training Course #5
28/02/1966
Gram Pool
13/08/1966
Acting S.A. 1 (Crew 19)
01/10/1966
S.A. II (Crew 19)
24/10/1966
STO Course #21
29/12/1966
S.A. II (Crew 10)
18/02/1967
Gram Pool
07/10/1968
Submitted Resignation
16/10/1968
Resignation effective
So, there we go:
Pat


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From: John Howell
Sent: 16 October 2018 16:34
Subject: Re: [Tech1] Blue Peter 1963 - and questions ...

You are probably right Pat, I joined in October 1962 & the Winter
of '62-'63 was particularly harsh, hence the fish tank story.
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From alawrance1 at me.com  Tue Oct 16 11:52:07 2018
From: alawrance1 at me.com (Alasdair Lawrance)
Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 17:52:07 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Blue Peter 1963 - and questions ...
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If I recall correctly, that was the best way of getting a smooth start on the Motorised, put the thing in gear with the brake on, then slowly lift foot off the brake.

The Heron was better, being hydraulic?  And it would operate without the pump running for a bit,  anyway.


Alasdair Lawrance
alawrance1 at me.com






On 16 Oct 2018, at 16:18, Graeme Wall via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:

The Vinten motorised had a foot switch for power, like the older Herons.
? 
Graeme Wall





> On 16 Oct 2018, at 15:16, John Howell via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> What about the tracker? His left elbow is resting on the quadrant of the speed controller & his body is twisted around to the right. His headphone is off his right ear & he may have a 'tash. However, it looks like he is in flat-out reverse should he apply the power, (was this via a foot-switch, I can't remember?).
> 
> I suggest it is Studio D, I did many BPs in D.
> 
> John H.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 16/10/2018 14:44, Alec Bray via Tech1 wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> You have probably already seen the picture of Blue Peter in 1963.
>> 
>> I am sure that it was a crew I worked on - crew 7 - as I recognise the cameraman marked in red - although I can't think of his name 
>> The yellow-arrowed gent looks to me a bit like John Henshall.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Now, what about the tracker of the Vinten Motorised?  I can get no sense out of the picture!
>> 
>> 
>> <blue peter tracker 1963.png>
>> 
>> 
>> Looksike he's got Panda eyes, especially as the lower face and neck look like white make-up compared to the skin tones of other people in the picture.
>> 
>> It must have been a special occasion, as otherwise, why would there by a staff photographer in the studio.
>> 
>> And which studio?  Can't be "G" surely, as in 1963 that studio was being used every day by "Tonight".
>> 
>> -- 
>> 
>> Best Regards
>> 
>> Alec
>> 
>> Alec Bray
>> 
>> 
>> alec.bray.2 at gmail.com
>> 
>> mob:    07789 561 346
>> home:   0118 981 7502
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
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From pat.heigham at btinternet.com  Tue Oct 16 11:53:35 2018
From: pat.heigham at btinternet.com (patheigham)
Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 17:53:35 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Blue Peter 1963 - and questions ...
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No, the Vinten motorized had a foot switch was the brake,
the motor control was a hand quadrant lever, and if required
 to move on shot one had to plonk
a foot on the brake before engaging the speed control
and then let off the brake very gently for motion.
I never got to drive a Heron or Mole ? thank goodness!

Pat

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To: John Howell
Cc: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
Subject: Re: [Tech1] Blue Peter 1963 - and questions ...

The Vinten motorised had a foot switch for power, like the older Herons.
? 
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From graeme.wall at icloud.com  Tue Oct 16 11:54:24 2018
From: graeme.wall at icloud.com (Graeme Wall)
Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 17:54:24 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Blue Peter 1963 - and questions ...
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That?s what I used to do, electrical maintenance used to moan I wasn?t doing the resistance controller any good!
? 
Graeme Wall





> On 16 Oct 2018, at 17:52, Alasdair Lawrance <alawrance1 at me.com> wrote:
> 
> If I recall correctly, that was the best way of getting a smooth start on the Motorised, put the thing in gear with the brake on, then slowly lift foot off the brake.
> 
> The Heron was better, being hydraulic?  And it would operate without the pump running for a bit,  anyway.
> 
> 
> Alasdair Lawrance
> alawrance1 at me.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 16 Oct 2018, at 16:18, Graeme Wall via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> The Vinten motorised had a foot switch for power, like the older Herons.
> ? 
> Graeme Wall
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 16 Oct 2018, at 15:16, John Howell via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
>> 
>> What about the tracker? His left elbow is resting on the quadrant of the speed controller & his body is twisted around to the right. His headphone is off his right ear & he may have a 'tash. However, it looks like he is in flat-out reverse should he apply the power, (was this via a foot-switch, I can't remember?).
>> 
>> I suggest it is Studio D, I did many BPs in D.
>> 
>> John H.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 16/10/2018 14:44, Alec Bray via Tech1 wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> You have probably already seen the picture of Blue Peter in 1963.
>>> 
>>> I am sure that it was a crew I worked on - crew 7 - as I recognise the cameraman marked in red - although I can't think of his name 
>>> The yellow-arrowed gent looks to me a bit like John Henshall.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Now, what about the tracker of the Vinten Motorised?  I can get no sense out of the picture!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> <blue peter tracker 1963.png>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Looksike he's got Panda eyes, especially as the lower face and neck look like white make-up compared to the skin tones of other people in the picture.
>>> 
>>> It must have been a special occasion, as otherwise, why would there by a staff photographer in the studio.
>>> 
>>> And which studio?  Can't be "G" surely, as in 1963 that studio was being used every day by "Tonight".
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> 
>>> Best Regards
>>> 
>>> Alec
>>> 
>>> Alec Bray
>>> 
>>> 
>>> alec.bray.2 at gmail.com
>>> 
>>> mob:    07789 561 346
>>> home:   0118 981 7502
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
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From graeme.wall at icloud.com  Tue Oct 16 11:56:00 2018
From: graeme.wall at icloud.com (Graeme Wall)
Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 17:56:00 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Blue Peter 1963 - and questions ...
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I thought it had a microswitch that you had to keep your foot on, in case you fell off!
? 
Graeme Wall





> On 16 Oct 2018, at 17:53, patheigham <pat.heigham at btinternet.com> wrote:
> 
> No, the Vinten motorized had a foot switch was the brake,
> the motor control was a hand quadrant lever, and if required
> to move on shot one had to plonk
> a foot on the brake before engaging the speed control
> and then let off the brake very gently for motion.
> I never got to drive a Heron or Mole ? thank goodness!
>  
> Pat
>  
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>  
> From: Graeme Wall via Tech1
> Sent: 16 October 2018 16:19
> To: John Howell
> Cc: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
> Subject: Re: [Tech1] Blue Peter 1963 - and questions ...
>  
> The Vinten motorised had a foot switch for power, like the older Herons.
> ?
> Graeme Wall
>  
>  
>  
>  
> 
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From j at howell61.f9.co.uk  Tue Oct 16 15:25:07 2018
From: j at howell61.f9.co.uk (John Howell)
Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 21:25:07 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Blue Peter 1963 - and questions ...
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Hi Pat,

I have just consulted my diaries and, whilst not in the same league as 
Brother Fletcher's Scrolls, they do indicate that 'Tonight' moved from 
St G to E for the first 4 months of 1964. After that it disappeared from 
my schedules, I wonder when it stopped being transmitted?

Hibou.


On 16/10/2018 15:35, patheigham wrote:
>
> It might have been relocated, but when? I did the main boom
>
> on Cliff?s desk, I?m certain it was D or E. Around 1962.
>
> Pat
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> *Subject: *Re: [Tech1] Blue Peter 1963 - and questions ...
>
> I don't recall Tonight coming from anywhere OTHER than LG G.
>
> Remember the door in wall 2 behind the main desk?
>
> It was left open one Winter's night & the water in the fish tank 
> froze, or so the story goesj
>
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From davidvbrunt at gmail.com  Tue Oct 16 16:09:35 2018
From: davidvbrunt at gmail.com (David Brunt)
Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 22:09:35 +0100
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Final show was 18th June 1965.

Went off for the Wimbledon fortnight then never returned.



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Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2018 9:25 PM
To: patheigham ; tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk 
Subject: Re: [Tech1] Blue Peter 1963 - and questions ...

Hi Pat,

I have just consulted my diaries and, whilst not in the same league as Brother Fletcher's Scrolls, they do indicate that 'Tonight' moved from St G to E for the first 4 months of 1964. After that it disappeared from my schedules, I wonder when it stopped being transmitted?

Hibou.




On 16/10/2018 15:35, patheigham wrote:

  It might have been relocated, but when  I did the main boom

  on Cliff?s desk, I?m certain it was D or E. Around 1962.

  Pat

   

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  From: John Howell via Tech1
  Sent: 16 October 2018 15:24
  Subject: Re: [Tech1] Blue Peter 1963 - and questions ...

   

  I don't recall Tonight coming from anywhere OTHER than LG G.

  Remember the door in wall 2 behind the main desk?

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From mibridge at mac.com  Tue Oct 16 16:51:13 2018
From: mibridge at mac.com (Mike Giles)
Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 22:51:13 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Our World
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References: <2068978778.161712.1539614122950@email.1and1.co.uk>
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You are correct Geoff ~ this has been aired here previously. I remember saying then that the Bristol Unit was involved with the Beatles OB as well, though they didn?t provide the main coverage ~ I was on OB?s in Bristol at the time, but didn?t do that show ~ I think I was on leave ~ not a good sense of timing!

I don?t think the pub story you related was mine, but I do remember it being recounted here, or perhaps elsewhere. I think we could safely raise all the ages by ten years now ~ unless it transpires that it was my story??????

Mike G


> On 15 Oct 2018, at 19:00, Geoff Hawkes via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> I was on Crew 2 at the time and we worked on Our World, John may have been
> there too as he was on Crew 2 for a while or worked with us and I can still
> picture him as a young man from those days.
> 
> I can't remember much about the show apart from there being a large hanging
> globe and their logo of a man holding a globe above him, similar to the logo
> of the Prostate Cancer Charity. I think there was a satellite link-up, how
> many ways I can't remember, that was a major feature of the show if not the
> driving factor, the technology being new.
> 
> Haven't we discussed this subject before?
> 
> It's a bit like the story Mike Giles? told us about the group of friends who
> every ten years got together to celebrate their birthdays going to the same
> pub each time but for different reasons. Aged thirty it was because they
> liked the waitresses in mini-skirts (must've been in the '60s), aged forty
> because they liked the music, aged fifty because they liked the food, at
> sixty because the place was handy - and at seventy because they hadn't been
> there before and thought they'd give it a try!  He told it better than me
> and I wish I'd kept a copy, though I probably wouldn't remember where.
> 
> Geoff Hawkes
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tech1 [mailto:tech1-bounces at tech-ops.co.uk] On Behalf Of John Nottage
> via Tech1
> Sent: 15 October 2018 15:35
> To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
> Subject: [Tech1] Our World
> 
> I'm just reading Alan Johnson's latest memoir - In My Life. He writes about
> sitting watching Our World in 1967 when The Beatles came on singing All You
> Need is Love, live from Abbey Road - & I'd always thought they were in TC1!
> Which is right?
> 
> John
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From mibridge at mac.com  Tue Oct 16 16:54:34 2018
From: mibridge at mac.com (Mike Giles)
Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 22:54:34 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Beatles, Abbey Road?  B&W Scanner? When?
In-Reply-To: <D28360ED-4746-4091-AB31-7850E7D19F7E@ukgateway.net>
References: <e1989ade-2fb0-4df2-93d4-c6608821ef4f@me.com>
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Well, as I was just saying ~ it would indeed have been MCR28 ~ what beautiful vehicles those were. I will attempt to find out more about their contribution from former Bristol colleagues.


Mike G


> On 15 Oct 2018, at 22:45, Robin Sutherland via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> After consulting my expert friend Brian Summers [currently owner and restorer of MCR21] I can tell you that the BBC vehicle behind John Lennon is either MCR 27, AYH 710B originally allocated to Glasgow or MCR 28, AYH 711B allocated to Bristol, West Region. These were the last two monochrome BBC OB scanners manufactured of a run of ten and all had Pye Mk6 4.5 IO cameras. My guess is that it was more likely to have been the Bristol scanner purely on the logistics.
> 
> Interesting that My World was transmitted on 25th June 1967 and at that time the BBC did have one Colour scanner in service, the brand new CMCR1 with Philips/Peto Scott PC60 cameras but it wouldn?t have been available for this as it was at Wimbledon making history producing the first colour transmission in Europe from Centre Court.
> 
> I have a feeling this has all been discussed before a while ago but most opinion I can discover says the My World insert was originally shot monochrome and colourised later, but Dave D may well be correct. Were the photos of the BBC scanner & Beatles taken at the My World shoot or some other occasion?
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Robin S
> 
> 
>> On 15 Oct 2018, at 19:56, William Nuttall via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> This weeks quiz.
>> 
>> BBC Vehicle at Abbey Road ?  Reg. No  ?  When ?  Tech Boxes on the floor ,
>> B&W TV Scanner ? BBC Radio Vehicle, probably not.
>> 
>> More Questions than answers!
>> Tony N in the wilds of Cumbria (part of the Great Northern Power House!)
>> 
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From geoffreyhawkes at btinternet.com  Tue Oct 16 18:09:23 2018
From: geoffreyhawkes at btinternet.com (Geoffrey Hawkes)
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2018 00:09:23 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Our World
In-Reply-To: <37C6260A-4131-4255-8F12-33AAA84235CE@mac.com>
References: <2068978778.161712.1539614122950@email.1and1.co.uk>
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Thanks Mike, I wasn't sure who first told the pub story and thought it might have been you, sorry if I got it wrong.  I couldn't remember the detail either, so I made up the ages and thought eighty would be more convincing for the tag line, but couldn't think of other reasons why they made the trip. I was hoping the teller would come forward with the original text as it made me smile and others too, I'm sure who have increasing moments of brain fog like me. 


Geoff

Sent from my iPad

> On 16 Oct 2018, at 22:51, Mike Giles <mibridge at mac.com> wrote:
> 
> You are correct Geoff ~ this has been aired here previously. I remember saying then that the Bristol Unit was involved with the Beatles OB as well, though they didn?t provide the main coverage ~ I was on OB?s in Bristol at the time, but didn?t do that show ~ I think I was on leave ~ not a good sense of timing!
> 
> I don?t think the pub story you related was mine, but I do remember it being recounted here, or perhaps elsewhere. I think we could safely raise all the ages by ten years now ~ unless it transpires that it was my story??????
> 
> Mike G
> 
> 
>> On 15 Oct 2018, at 19:00, Geoff Hawkes via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
>> 
>> I was on Crew 2 at the time and we worked on Our World, John may have been
>> there too as he was on Crew 2 for a while or worked with us and I can still
>> picture him as a young man from those days.
>> 
>> I can't remember much about the show apart from there being a large hanging
>> globe and their logo of a man holding a globe above him, similar to the logo
>> of the Prostate Cancer Charity. I think there was a satellite link-up, how
>> many ways I can't remember, that was a major feature of the show if not the
>> driving factor, the technology being new.
>> 
>> Haven't we discussed this subject before?
>> 
>> It's a bit like the story Mike Giles? told us about the group of friends who
>> every ten years got together to celebrate their birthdays going to the same
>> pub each time but for different reasons. Aged thirty it was because they
>> liked the waitresses in mini-skirts (must've been in the '60s), aged forty
>> because they liked the music, aged fifty because they liked the food, at
>> sixty because the place was handy - and at seventy because they hadn't been
>> there before and thought they'd give it a try!  He told it better than me
>> and I wish I'd kept a copy, though I probably wouldn't remember where.
>> 
>> Geoff Hawkes
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Tech1 [mailto:tech1-bounces at tech-ops.co.uk] On Behalf Of John Nottage
>> via Tech1
>> Sent: 15 October 2018 15:35
>> To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
>> Subject: [Tech1] Our World
>> 
>> I'm just reading Alan Johnson's latest memoir - In My Life. He writes about
>> sitting watching Our World in 1967 when The Beatles came on singing All You
>> Need is Love, live from Abbey Road - & I'd always thought they were in TC1!
>> Which is right?
>> 
>> John
>> 
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From bernie833 at gmail.com  Wed Oct 17 04:14:22 2018
From: bernie833 at gmail.com (Bernard Newnham)
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2018 10:14:22 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] U3A
Message-ID: <91ecb436-0620-ac73-4f3c-8889831d008c@gmail.com>

Well, the course I was teaching at a university has come to an end after 
ten years - 3000 less students this year, so they are consolidating. I'm 
all for less university students in general, lots of the ones I taught 
should have been out doing useful stuff -? rather than spending money, 
they should have been making it. I keep reading stories about "can't get 
the staff" - these kids should have been out there getting trained on 
some sandwich course or apprenticeship or something.

Still - it leaves me at a slight loose end. I may have retired for the 
third time.

There was something in the paper about the University of the Third Age.? 
I looked up the local one, but it wasn't too clear about the way it 
works. So - anyone here have experience that they can pass on?? Does one 
teach or does one learn? Or both?

cheers

B
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From teateatone2 at gmail.com  Wed Oct 17 04:42:15 2018
From: teateatone2 at gmail.com (Tony Grant)
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2018 10:42:15 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] U3A
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References: <91ecb436-0620-ac73-4f3c-8889831d008c@gmail.com>
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Hi Bernie,

I am a member of our local (Bangor) U3A. Whilst it does have a meeting
every Thursday morning (in 'term' time) with a guest speaker, covering a
wide range of topics from art in seaweed, through archeology of Anglesey,
and on to seafaring, bee-keeping, local history, etc. etc. you name it,
it's probably been covered at some stage.

However, for me, it's all the group activities that I'm interested in, and
I indulge in weekly table tennis, and pickle ball, and occasionally go on
their organised trips to events (some of them in England!). I've even
organised some disorganised lunches, which have proved popular! There are
groups covering a wide range of subjects from art, drama, dancing, music,
wine tasting, reading, writing, walking, badminton, etc. you get the idea.
But a large part of these groups revolves around the social aspect, and I
go as much for the activity as the tea drinking and general scurrilous chat
afterwards.

However, I have yet to do a Thurs morning talk myself, due to not having
access to the necessary equipment to properly illustrate my technical
ramblings. But who knows, one day......?

If you have a well organised local U3A, it's well worth a visit, and I'm
sure you can Google it to find out what activities it has to offer. Subs
are extremely reasonable, ours is ?8 a year. You could always organise a
flying section, and come and visit us via our local airport at Dinas Dinlle!

TeaTeaFN - Tony


On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 10:14 AM Bernard Newnham via Tech1 <
tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:

> Well, the course I was teaching at a university has come to an end after
> ten years - 3000 less students this year, so they are consolidating. I'm
> all for less university students in general, lots of the ones I taught
> should have been out doing useful stuff -  rather than spending money,
> they should have been making it. I keep reading stories about "can't get
> the staff" - these kids should have been out there getting trained on some
> sandwich course or apprenticeship or something.
>
> Still - it leaves me at a slight loose end. I may have retired for the
> third time.
>
> There was something in the paper about the University of the Third Age.
> I looked up the local one, but it wasn't too clear about the way it works.
> So - anyone here have experience that they can pass on?  Does one teach
> or does one learn? Or both?
>
> cheers
>
> B
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From geoffreyhawkes at btinternet.com  Wed Oct 17 05:09:11 2018
From: geoffreyhawkes at btinternet.com (Geoff Hawkes)
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2018 11:09:11 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] U3A
In-Reply-To: <91ecb436-0620-ac73-4f3c-8889831d008c@gmail.com>
References: <91ecb436-0620-ac73-4f3c-8889831d008c@gmail.com>
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Hi Bernie,

If there was a ?Like? button, I?d be pressing it for what you said about some students being better off not going to university. My wife has said the same for a long time and I agree,

 

Geoff

 

From: Tech1 [mailto:tech1-bounces at tech-ops.co.uk] On Behalf Of Bernard Newnham via Tech1
Sent: 17 October 2018 10:14
To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
Subject: [Tech1] U3A

 

Well, the course I was teaching at a university has come to an end after ten years - 3000 less students this year, so they are consolidating. I'm all for less university students in general, lots of the ones I taught should have been out doing useful stuff -  rather than spending money, they should have been making it. I keep reading stories about "can't get the staff" - these kids should have been out there getting trained on some sandwich course or apprenticeship or something. 

Still - it leaves me at a slight loose end. I may have retired for the third time.  

There was something in the paper about the University of the Third Age.  I looked up the local one, but it wasn't too clear about the way it works. So - anyone here have experience that they can pass on?  Does one teach or does one learn? Or both?

cheers

B 

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From mibridge at mac.com  Wed Oct 17 05:15:48 2018
From: mibridge at mac.com (Mike Giles)
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2018 11:15:48 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] U3A
In-Reply-To: <91ecb436-0620-ac73-4f3c-8889831d008c@gmail.com>
References: <91ecb436-0620-ac73-4f3c-8889831d008c@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8C1F02ED-CB82-454A-B5F7-D2FE61D0C9C3@mac.com>

U3A is an organisation aimed at over 50?s with time to spare and who want to engage in something worthwhile. I think it?s original aims were somewhat academic, but it now encompasses all manner of activities, which differ from one group to another. 

In Dorking, we have the usual run of book groups, history, investing, photography archaeology, psychology, languages - too many to list - but we also have bowls, walking and table tennis, whilst Epsom has croquet, which we may join in if we wish, and another group in the area does P?tanque. 
 
Membership is only about ?15 a year, from memory, and members are free to organise groups on topics which aren?t covered in their area - we?re having our first non-Bridge card group meeting this very afternoon and mugging has ended up organising it!

The guiding principle though is that Group
Leaders come from the membership and are unpaid. Payment for use of premises and facilities is usually done on a per occasion basis, and some specialist instructors can be paid, I believe, but there are rules covering this. For example, a singing group down here wanted to pay their leader, who is also a U3A member, and they?ve had to run it outside of the U3A umbrella. It is also a requirement that anybody who wants to join a group must be allowed to do so, regardless of their ability - another example here is that the Bridge Group wanted to oust a player who was not very good and also had to leave the U3A structure. 

But it?s a good organisation on the whole and the list of topics covered nationally is immense. Well worth dipping a toe in the water - our problem is that activities we?re interested in tend to clash with each other timewise and we had great difficulty in getting a meeting together even to discuss the card group, because interested parties are all fairly busy with other groups. 

Enjoy!

Mike G

> On 17 Oct 2018, at 10:14, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> Well, the course I was teaching at a university has come to an end after ten years - 3000 less students this year, so they are consolidating. I'm all for less university students in general, lots of the ones I taught should have been out doing useful stuff -  rather than spending money, they should have been making it. I keep reading stories about "can't get the staff" - these kids should have been out there getting trained on some sandwich course or apprenticeship or something. 
> 
> Still - it leaves me at a slight loose end. I may have retired for the third time.  
> 
> There was something in the paper about the                           University of the Third Age.  I looked up the local one, but it wasn't too clear about the way it works. So - anyone here have experience that they can pass on?  Does one teach or does one learn? Or both?
> 
> cheers
> 
> B 
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From alec.bray.2 at gmail.com  Wed Oct 17 05:37:34 2018
From: alec.bray.2 at gmail.com (Alec Bray)
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2018 11:37:34 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] U3A
In-Reply-To: <8C1F02ED-CB82-454A-B5F7-D2FE61D0C9C3@mac.com>
References: <91ecb436-0620-ac73-4f3c-8889831d008c@gmail.com>
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Hi all,

I recently gave a talk to the Abingdon U3A for their Thursday group 
meeting - all about my (short) time at the Beeb. (Anyone here could do 
_that_presentation!!)

Tomorrow my wife and I are off to the group meeting of? the Tadley U3A - 
which we have just joined!? The group meeting is about the SS Great 
Britain.? Then it is a question of joining any of the various groups:? 
ours includes Latin!? Where I was living previously in Reading, there 
was very little U3A - but places around have thriving groups!

-- 

Best Regards

Alec

Alec Bray

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home:   0118 981 7502



From geoffletch at gmail.com  Wed Oct 17 05:38:38 2018
From: geoffletch at gmail.com (Geoff Fletcher)
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2018 11:38:38 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] U3A
In-Reply-To: <8C1F02ED-CB82-454A-B5F7-D2FE61D0C9C3@mac.com>
References: <91ecb436-0620-ac73-4f3c-8889831d008c@gmail.com>
	<8C1F02ED-CB82-454A-B5F7-D2FE61D0C9C3@mac.com>
Message-ID: <CAB99AB9qhsuzz7YHWLyJteZxJ2PR04=77FF_=C7unes5t2Db8Q@mail.gmail.com>

What is ?pickle ball? Tony?
Geoff F

On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 at 11:18, Mike Giles via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
wrote:

> U3A is an organisation aimed at over 50?s with time to spare and who want
> to engage in something worthwhile. I think it?s original aims were somewhat
> academic, but it now encompasses all manner of activities, which differ
> from one group to another.
>
> In Dorking, we have the usual run of book groups, history, investing,
> photography archaeology, psychology, languages - too many to list - but we
> also have bowls, walking and table tennis, whilst Epsom has croquet, which
> we may join in if we wish, and another group in the area does P?tanque.
>
> Membership is only about ?15 a year, from memory, and members are free to
> organise groups on topics which aren?t covered in their area - we?re having
> our first non-Bridge card group meeting this very afternoon and mugging has
> ended up organising it!
>
> The guiding principle though is that Group
> Leaders come from the membership and are unpaid. Payment for use of
> premises and facilities is usually done on a per occasion basis, and some
> specialist instructors can be paid, I believe, but there are rules covering
> this. For example, a singing group down here wanted to pay their leader,
> who is also a U3A member, and they?ve had to run it outside of the U3A
> umbrella. It is also a requirement that anybody who wants to join a group
> must be allowed to do so, regardless of their ability - another example
> here is that the Bridge Group wanted to oust a player who was not very good
> and also had to leave the U3A structure.
>
> But it?s a good organisation on the whole and the list of topics covered
> nationally is immense. Well worth dipping a toe in the water - our problem
> is that activities we?re interested in tend to clash with each other
> timewise and we had great difficulty in getting a meeting together even to
> discuss the card group, because interested parties are all fairly busy with
> other groups.
>
> Enjoy!
>
> Mike G
>
> On 17 Oct 2018, at 10:14, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
> Well, the course I was teaching at a university has come to an end after
> ten years - 3000 less students this year, so they are consolidating. I'm
> all for less university students in general, lots of the ones I taught
> should have been out doing useful stuff -  rather than spending money,
> they should have been making it. I keep reading stories about "can't get
> the staff" - these kids should have been out there getting trained on some
> sandwich course or apprenticeship or something.
>
> Still - it leaves me at a slight loose end. I may have retired for the
> third time.
>
> There was something in the paper about the University of the Third Age.
> I looked up the local one, but it wasn't too clear about the way it works.
> So - anyone here have experience that they can pass on?  Does one teach
> or does one learn? Or both?
>
> cheers
>
> B
>
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From hughsheppard at btinternet.com  Wed Oct 17 05:42:59 2018
From: hughsheppard at btinternet.com (Hugh Sheppard)
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2018 11:42:59 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] U3A
In-Reply-To: <8C1F02ED-CB82-454A-B5F7-D2FE61D0C9C3@mac.com>
References: <91ecb436-0620-ac73-4f3c-8889831d008c@gmail.com>
	<8C1F02ED-CB82-454A-B5F7-D2FE61D0C9C3@mac.com>
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Bernie,

Mike? has said it all.? A great outfit, 4 years old in Odiham and with 
450 members and 25 groups. I missed this morning's science group - going 
on right now!

    *Odiham U3A Science and Technology*

    Our website can be found by clicking _here
    <https://sites.google.com/site/odihamu3ast/home>_

    Dear All,


    A reminder that our next meeting will be on Wednesday 17th October,
    and is entitled:

    *The 100,000 Genome Project*

    by

    Dr Catherine Mercer

    *Synopsis*

    Dr Mercer will discuss the utility of genetic testing, the benefits
    and pitfalls and encourage you to consider if you yourself would
    consider having your entire genome sequenced.

    *About Dr Mercer*

    Dr Catherine Mercer is a Consultant Clinical Geneticist working at
    University Hospital Southampton NHS Foundation Trust. She works with
    families with inherited conditions, her role being the
    identification of an underlying genetic cause for the medical
    problems experienced by an individual.? Dr Mercer has a special
    interest in Inherited Cardiac Conditions and gained a PhD in the
    field of the molecular genetic causes of Congenital Heart Disease.?
    She is also the lead clinician for the Wessex Rare Disease arm of
    the 100,000 Genomes Project, an exciting nationwide initiative
    designed to increase the update of genomic testing and consequently
    the diagnostic yield.

    *The meeting will be held at the Cross Barn, starting at 10.30 am,
    with tea/coffee available from 10.00 am.?? I do hope that you will
    be able to attend.*

Go for it, Bernie!
**
Hugh

On 17-Oct-18 11:15 AM, Mike Giles via Tech1 wrote:
> U3A is an organisation aimed at over 50?s with time to spare and who 
> want to engage in something worthwhile. I think it?s original aims 
> were somewhat academic, but it now encompasses all manner of 
> activities, which differ from one group to another.
>
> In Dorking, we have the usual run of book groups, history, investing, 
> photography archaeology, psychology, languages - too many to list - 
> but we also have bowls, walking and table tennis, whilst Epsom has 
> croquet, which we may join in if we wish, and another group in the 
> area does P?tanque.
> Membership is only about ?15 a year, from memory, and members are free 
> to organise groups on topics which aren?t covered in their area - 
> we?re having our first non-Bridge card group meeting this very 
> afternoon and mugging has ended up organising it!
>
> The guiding principle though is that Group
> Leaders come from the membership and are unpaid. Payment for use of 
> premises and facilities is usually done on a per occasion basis, and 
> some specialist instructors can be paid, I believe, but there are 
> rules covering this. For example, a singing group down here wanted to 
> pay their leader, who is also a U3A member, and they?ve had to run it 
> outside of the U3A umbrella. It is also a requirement that anybody who 
> wants to join a group must be allowed to do so, regardless of their 
> ability - another example here is that the Bridge Group wanted to oust 
> a player who was not very good and also had to leave the U3A structure.
>
> But it?s a good organisation on the whole and the list of topics 
> covered nationally is immense. Well worth dipping a toe in the water - 
> our problem is that activities we?re interested in tend to clash with 
> each other timewise and we had great difficulty in getting a meeting 
> together even to discuss the card group, because interested parties 
> are all fairly busy with other groups.
>
> Enjoy!
>
> Mike G
>
> On 17 Oct 2018, at 10:14, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 
> <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk <mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>> wrote:
>
>> Well, the course I was teaching at a university has come to an end 
>> after ten years - 3000 less students this year, so they are 
>> consolidating. I'm all for less university students in general, lots 
>> of the ones I taught should have been out doing useful stuff - rather 
>> than spending money, they should have been making it. I keep reading 
>> stories about "can't get the staff" - these kids should have been out 
>> there getting trained on some sandwich course or apprenticeship or 
>> something.
>>
>> Still - it leaves me at a slight loose end. I may have retired for 
>> the third time.
>>
>> There was something in the paper about the University of the Third 
>> Age. I looked up the local one, but it wasn't too clear about the way 
>> it works. So - anyone here have experience that they can pass on?? 
>> Does one teach or does one learn? Or both?
>>
>> cheers
>>
>> B
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From david.beer at talktalk.net  Wed Oct 17 05:49:38 2018
From: david.beer at talktalk.net (David Beer)
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2018 11:49:38 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] U3A
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Yes, we have a thriving group here in Macclesfield. I go to the Geology 
group with field trips to local areas as well as Edinburgh and Cornwall 
in recent years. Also the science group has interesting talks from 
experts around the area ie AstraZeneca, Jodrell Bank and Manchester 
University of Science. Our next meeting is about super computers.

Dave B


On 17/10/2018 11:37, Alec Bray via Tech1 wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I recently gave a talk to the Abingdon U3A for their Thursday group 
> meeting - all about my (short) time at the Beeb. (Anyone here could do 
> _that_presentation!!)
>
> Tomorrow my wife and I are off to the group meeting of? the Tadley U3A 
> - which we have just joined!? The group meeting is about the SS Great 
> Britain.? Then it is a question of joining any of the various groups:? 
> ours includes Latin!? Where I was living previously in Reading, there 
> was very little U3A - but places around have thriving groups!
>



From peter.fox at tiscali.co.uk  Wed Oct 17 05:56:20 2018
From: peter.fox at tiscali.co.uk (Peter Fox)
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2018 11:56:20 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] U3A
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It?s a mutual benefit system. Annual membership around ?12 in Bromley area with small groups within the umbrella that might meet weekly in someone?s home for free, say a philosophy group, or in a church hall for something like marquetry which would then cost ?30 a term for a very few people to cover the hall hire. (more punters sharing = smaller fee) There are also large scale (50 to 100 people?) fortnightly meetings in the Churchill Library hall for which you might instead pay from ?1 to ?2 per event inc tea and bun which could be for a ?paid-for? lecturer from an interesting occupation under the title of Modern World; professional deep sea diver, helicopter rescue pilot, explorer and many more, who are prepared to do a talk for travel expenses rather than for a fee. or perhaps from someone within U3A itself who has a story to tell. (I haven?t noticed any ex Euro MPs offering their services for petrol, tea and bun.)
Or there are walking groups, with an enthusiastic leader organising rambles or museum or places of interest visits.
Basically, it?s mutual teaching stuff with someone who has ?retired? lecturing or teaching or leading a group for the joy of continuing to spread their knowledge or skills for free. Or making tea.


Peter Fox

> On 17 Oct 2018, at 11:09, Geoff Hawkes via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> Hi Bernie,
> If there was a ?Like? button, I?d be pressing it for what you said about some students being better off not going to university. My wife has said the same for a long time and I agree,
>  
> Geoff
>  
> From: Tech1 [mailto:tech1-bounces at tech-ops.co.uk] On Behalf Of Bernard Newnham via Tech1
> Sent: 17 October 2018 10:14
> To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
> Subject: [Tech1] U3A
>  
> Well, the course I was teaching at a university has come to an end after ten years - 3000 less students this year, so they are consolidating. I'm all for less university students in general, lots of the ones I taught should have been out doing useful stuff -  rather than spending money, they should have been making it. I keep reading stories about "can't get the staff" - these kids should have been out there getting trained on some sandwich course or apprenticeship or something. 
> 
> Still - it leaves me at a slight loose end. I may have retired for the third time.  
> 
> There was something in the paper about the University of the Third Age.  I looked up the local one, but it wasn't too clear about the way it works. So - anyone here have experience that they can pass on?  Does one teach or does one learn? Or both?
> 
> cheers
> 
> B
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From ian.hillson at gmail.com  Wed Oct 17 08:46:11 2018
From: ian.hillson at gmail.com (Ian H)
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2018 14:46:11 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] First Pinewood...
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... now Shepperton wants to expand:
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/shepperton-villagers-fight-hollywood-for-the-green-belt-as-studio-seeks-to-expand-p29x2sctm
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From ian.hillson at gmail.com  Wed Oct 17 08:49:48 2018
From: ian.hillson at gmail.com (Ian H)
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2018 14:49:48 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Tenerife was Here's an Oddity
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If you thought *that* was nail-biting Pat, then you should try it while
sitting on the wrong side in a tourist bus!

I

On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 1:58 PM patheigham via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
wrote:

> Visiting Tenerife for some sun after a Christmas, renting a car,
>
> and driving up the spine of the island was a nail-biting nightmare
>
> sequence, as the narrow spine road had no safety barriers
>
> and a 45 degree scree slope either side.
>
> If one had drifted off the road, there was nothing to prevent
>
> a downward journey until launched into the Atlantic!
>
>
>
> I gather that there is a volcanic fault in the Canaries, which if a huge
> mass
>
> breaks off and collapses into the ocean ,it could cause
>
> a tidal wave which might well engulf New York!
>
> Now that could be a plot for a Bond film ? to have the villain
>
> intending to start the split! (with POTUS standing on the top
>
> of the Statue of Liberty so as not to get his feet wet!)
>
>
> https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/865079/La-Palma-volcano-eruption-mega-tsunami-warning-Spain-Europe-alert-Cumbre-Vieja-tenerife
>
> Pat
>
>
>
>
>
> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
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>
>
>
> *From: *David Denness via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
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>
>
>
> Of course!
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From bernie833 at gmail.com  Wed Oct 17 09:27:04 2018
From: bernie833 at gmail.com (Bernard Newnham)
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2018 15:27:04 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Tenerife was Here's an Oddity
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Likewise the Amalfi Drive, though that seems to have grown a wall since 
I drove it in a Fiat Panda



B



On 17/10/2018 14:49, Ian H via Tech1 wrote:
> If you thought _that_ was?nail-biting Pat, then you should try it 
> while sitting on the wrong side in a tourist bus!
>
> I
>
> On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 1:58 PM patheigham via Tech1 
> <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk <mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>> wrote:
>
>     Visiting Tenerife for some sun after a Christmas, renting a car,
>
>     and driving up the spine of the island was a nail-biting nightmare
>
>     sequence, as the narrow spine road had no safety barriers
>
>     and a 45 degree scree slope either side.
>
>     If one had drifted off the road, there was nothing to prevent
>
>     a downward journey until launched into the Atlantic!
>
>     I gather that there is a volcanic fault in the Canaries, which if
>     a huge mass
>
>     breaks off and collapses into the ocean ,it could cause
>
>     a tidal wave which might well engulf New York!
>
>     Now that could be a plot for a Bond film ? to have the villain
>
>     intending to start the split! (with POTUS standing on the top
>
>     of the Statue of Liberty so as not to get his feet wet!)
>
>     https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/865079/La-Palma-volcano-eruption-mega-tsunami-warning-Spain-Europe-alert-Cumbre-Vieja-tenerife
>
>     Pat
>
>     Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986>
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>     BUNCE' <mailto:rogerbunce at btinternet.com>
>     *Cc: *tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk <mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
>     *Subject: *Re: [Tech1] RE- Here's an Oddity
>
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From bernie833 at gmail.com  Wed Oct 17 09:27:32 2018
From: bernie833 at gmail.com (Bernard Newnham)
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2018 15:27:32 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Tenerife was Here's an Oddity
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Likewise the Amalfi Drive, though that seems to have grown a wall since 
I drove it in a Fiat Panda



B



On 17/10/2018 14:49, Ian H via Tech1 wrote:
> If you thought _that_ was?nail-biting Pat, then you should try it 
> while sitting on the wrong side in a tourist bus!
>
> I
>
> On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 1:58 PM patheigham via Tech1 
> <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk <mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>> wrote:
>
>     Visiting Tenerife for some sun after a Christmas, renting a car,
>
>     and driving up the spine of the island was a nail-biting nightmare
>
>     sequence, as the narrow spine road had no safety barriers
>
>     and a 45 degree scree slope either side.
>
>     If one had drifted off the road, there was nothing to prevent
>
>     a downward journey until launched into the Atlantic!
>
>     I gather that there is a volcanic fault in the Canaries, which if
>     a huge mass
>
>     breaks off and collapses into the ocean ,it could cause
>
>     a tidal wave which might well engulf New York!
>
>     Now that could be a plot for a Bond film ? to have the villain
>
>     intending to start the split! (with POTUS standing on the top
>
>     of the Statue of Liberty so as not to get his feet wet!)
>
>     https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/865079/La-Palma-volcano-eruption-mega-tsunami-warning-Spain-Europe-alert-Cumbre-Vieja-tenerife
>
>     Pat
>
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From dave.mdv at btinternet.com  Wed Oct 17 10:55:37 2018
From: dave.mdv at btinternet.com (dave.mdv)
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2018 16:55:37 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Tenerife was Here's an Oddity
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We went along the Amalfi coast road in our tour bus several times to 
various places in the region. Once we met another tour bus coming the 
other way! We were on the rock side of the road and the other bus was 
next to your wall. It must have taken 20 minutes to pass each other! 
Behind the other coach a man was jumping up and down, shouting 
obscenities at both buses, it turned out that he was on the way to his 
wedding! Happy days! Cheers, Dave


From dave.mdv at btinternet.com  Wed Oct 17 15:13:07 2018
From: dave.mdv at btinternet.com (dave.mdv)
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2018 21:13:07 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Shredders
Message-ID: <a840a44a-d5b8-9358-9ee9-f8d09d199795@btinternet.com>

Many years ago I bought a cross-cut shredder which could do DVD/CDs and 
credit cards. It eventually gave up on life and on dismantling it (as 
you do!) I found that the it had plastic gear wheels and they had 
melted. I bought my next one from Tesco, on a cheap offer, and it is 
still going strong (they no longer sell it!). Doing a regular 
maintenance on it I discovered that it had metal gears, which proves 
something. I also bought a bottle of shredder oil from a local 
stationers for ?7.75. It is nearly used up so I have just looked on the 
internet and I can get the same oil for ?4.70 a bottle, with free 
postage, off Amazon. No wonder the High Street is dying. Cheers, Dave


From dave.mdv at btinternet.com  Wed Oct 17 15:17:58 2018
From: dave.mdv at btinternet.com (dave.mdv)
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2018 21:17:58 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Waterloo Meeting 23rd October 2018
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I sympathise with you! Some people are very thoughtless. Many years ago 
my wife arranged a Bank Holiday get-together for all her work colleagues 
at our house. We spent a lot of time and effort into catering for 24 
guests. NOBODY turned up and the excuse was that it was a nice Bank 
Holiday for once! We never did it again! Cheers, Dave


From alawrance1 at me.com  Wed Oct 17 15:27:13 2018
From: alawrance1 at me.com (Alasdair Lawrance)
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2018 21:27:13 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Tenerife was Here's an Oddity
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It was in Tenerife for a bit of winter sun that we first hired a car abroad, a Fiat 500, obviously LHD.   I really didn't know if perhaps the gearshift was different, and maybe the clutch/ brake/accelerator were the other way round! (They weren't).

We set off gingerly and came to the first roundabout, which we negotiated with care.  We spent a happy day in the countryside, although the poor car ran out of puff at altitude.
We came back to the apartment, quietly confident in my ability to drive on the 'wrong' side of the road, only to find that at the roundabout we first encountered, there were roadworks, and they were sending traffic the 'wrong' way round the roundabout.....

Alasdair Lawrance

Sent from my iPad2

> On 17 Oct 2018, at 16:55, dave.mdv via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> We went along the Amalfi coast road in our tour bus several times to various places in the region. Once we met another tour bus coming the other way! We were on the rock side of the road and the other bus was next to your wall. It must have taken 20 minutes to pass each other! Behind the other coach a man was jumping up and down, shouting obscenities at both buses, it turned out that he was on the way to his wedding! Happy days! Cheers, Dave
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From dave.mdv at btinternet.com  Wed Oct 17 15:29:14 2018
From: dave.mdv at btinternet.com (dave.mdv)
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2018 21:29:14 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] First Pinewood...
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How sad, a national shortage of studio facilities! How could that 
happen? They were all rubbing their hands with glee when Television 
Centre was closed, thinking about all the productions coming their way. 
Hindsight is a wonderful thing, perhaps the BBC was wrong to sell off 
it's greatest asset, just think of the money it could have made with 
state-of-the-art, easy to use studios, and fully trained staff! Cheers, Dave


From dave.mdv at btinternet.com  Wed Oct 17 15:40:49 2018
From: dave.mdv at btinternet.com (dave.mdv)
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2018 21:40:49 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Tenerife was Here's an Oddity
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Typical! If you want a really scary trip try visiting Skippers Canyon on 
New Zealand's South Island, near Queenstown. You travel, with eyes 
tightly closed (!), in old Toyota SUVs converted to 4-wheel drive by the 
owners(!), along an adverse camber gravel path alongside a mountain with 
nothing to stop a gentle slide into the abyss! Spectacular views down 
onto the white-water rafting hundreds of feet below, ending up over a 
rickety bridge at a small school building. The kids used to get there by 
crossing a narrow bridge (where lunatincs now bungy jump from!) with hot 
stones in their pockets to ward off the frostbite. A nice lunch and back 
by the same terrifying route. I've got the baseball cap to prove we 
survived but it was a tight sphincter day all round! Cheers, Dave.


From waresound at msn.com  Wed Oct 17 16:04:50 2018
From: waresound at msn.com (Nick Ware)
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2018 21:04:50 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Waterloo Meeting 23rd October 2018
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The question is, was the mistake in having it on a bank holiday, or was it in inviting 24 of her work colleagues?
Only one way to find out: do it again, and if nobody turns up, you can be pretty sure 24 of your (ex) work colleagues would come and appreciate your catering!
Nick.
Sent from my iPad

On 17 Oct 2018, at 21:18, dave.mdv via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk<mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>> wrote:

I sympathise with you! Some people are very thoughtless. Many years ago my wife arranged a Bank Holiday get-together for all her work colleagues at our house. We spent a lot of time and effort into catering for 24 guests. NOBODY turned up and the excuse was that it was a nice Bank Holiday for once! We never did it again! Cheers, Dave

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From apts at apts.org.uk  Wed Oct 17 16:27:17 2018
From: apts at apts.org.uk (Alexandra Palace Television Society)
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2018 22:27:17 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] mystery camera
Message-ID: <D7ED67C5.1B0F2%apts@apts.org.uk>

Hello All,

I?m hoping someone might have details about this rather strange looking
Emitron camera?

It was found in a basement car park at TVC in 2012 and I was made aware of
it in 2015, but no information could be found about this adaptation.
However, I found it in a Newsreel report ?Improving The View?, tx 23rd
October 1950.  It featured Kingwood Warren where a close-up is seen of the
camera.

Other than knowing it was at Kingswood Warren little else is known of its
whereabouts until being found at TVC.

Any information would be gratefully received.

Many thanks

Simon



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From dave.mdv at btinternet.com  Wed Oct 17 17:02:05 2018
From: dave.mdv at btinternet.com (dave.mdv)
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2018 23:02:05 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Scary trips
Message-ID: <7bc70136-129f-33eb-976b-80515f9f517f@btinternet.com>

Typical! If you want a really scary trip try visiting Skippers Canyon on 
New Zealand's South Island, near Queenstown. You travel, with eyes 
tightly closed (!), in old Toyota SUVs converted to 4-wheel drive by the 
owners(!), along an adverse camber gravel path alongside a mountain with 
nothing to stop a gentle slide into the abyss! Spectacular views down 
onto the white-water rafting hundreds of feet below, ending up over a 
rickety bridge at a small school building. The kids used to get there by 
crossing a narrow bridge (where lunatincs now bungy jump from!) with hot 
stones in their pockets to ward off the frostbite. A nice lunch and back 
by the same terrifying route. I've got the baseball cap to prove we 
survived but it was a tight sphincter day all round! Cheers, Dave.


From dave.mdv at btinternet.com  Wed Oct 17 17:02:25 2018
From: dave.mdv at btinternet.com (dave.mdv)
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2018 23:02:25 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Waterloo Meeting 23rd October 2018
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Thanks Nick, as always so constructive in your comments! It was about 20 
years ago and most of the invitees are no longer around! Bank Holiday 
was a time when a lot of her colleagues were probably off duty. 
nowadays, I don't think nurses ever stop working and have time to go to 
parties! Cheers, Dave


From bernie833 at gmail.com  Wed Oct 17 17:24:31 2018
From: bernie833 at gmail.com (Bernard Newnham)
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2018 23:24:31 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] mystery camera
In-Reply-To: <D7ED67C5.1B0F2%apts@apts.org.uk>
References: <D7ED67C5.1B0F2%apts@apts.org.uk>
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A Super Emitron?

B



On 17/10/2018 22:27, Alexandra Palace Television Society via Tech1 wrote:
> Hello All,
>
> I?m hoping someone might have details about this rather strange 
> looking Emitron camera?
>
> It was found in a basement car park at TVC in 2012 and I was made 
> aware of it in 2015, but no information could be found about this 
> adaptation. ?However, I found it in a Newsreel report ?Improving The 
> View?, tx 23rd October 1950. ?It featured Kingwood Warren where a 
> close-up is seen of the camera.
>
> Other than knowing it was at Kingswood Warren little else is known of 
> its whereabouts until being found at TVC.
>
> Any information would be gratefully received.
>
> Many thanks
>
> Simon
>
>
> Simon Vaughan
>
> Archivist
>
> for and on behalf of
>
> Alexandra Palace Television Society
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> Tel: +44 (0) 1332 729358
>
> Mob: +44 (0) 7791 780882
>
> E-mail: apts at apts.org.uk 
> <applewebdata://9EC021DE-689D-4FEE-BB87-57500B1D581B/apts at apts.org.uk>
>
> Web: www.apts.org.uk 
> <applewebdata://9EC021DE-689D-4FEE-BB87-57500B1D581B/www.apts.org.uk>
>
> www.youtube.com/aptsarchive 
> <applewebdata://9EC021DE-689D-4FEE-BB87-57500B1D581B/www.youtube.com/aptsarchive>
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> The Alexandra Palace Television Society is a not-for-profit 
> organisation, dedicated to preserving for present and future 
> generations, the oral and written history of the pioneers who 
> inaugurated the world's first regular public high-definition 
> television service from Alexandra Palace, north London, in 1936.
>
> This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and 
> intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they 
> are addressed.? If you have received this e-mail in error please 
> notify the system manager: postmaster at apts.org.uk 
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From bernie833 at gmail.com  Wed Oct 17 17:25:10 2018
From: bernie833 at gmail.com (Bernard Newnham)
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2018 23:25:10 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] U3A
In-Reply-To: <A21DF16C-6527-4081-A469-A5129A99834D@tiscali.co.uk>
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Thanks for all the replies. I think I'll give it a try

cheers

B



On 17/10/2018 11:56, Peter Fox wrote:
> It?s a mutual benefit system. Annual membership around ?12 in Bromley 
> area with small groups within the umbrella that might meet weekly in 
> someone?s home for free, say a philosophy group, or in a church hall 
> for something like marquetry which would then cost ?30 a term for a 
> very few people to cover the hall hire. (more punters sharing = 
> smaller fee) There are also large scale (50 to 100 people?) 
> fortnightly meetings in the Churchill Library hall for which you might 
> instead pay from ?1 to ?2 per event inc tea and bun which could be for 
> a ?paid-for? lecturer from an interesting occupation under the title 
> of Modern World; professional deep sea diver, helicopter rescue pilot, 
> explorer and many more, who are prepared to do a talk for travel 
> expenses rather than for a fee. or perhaps from someone within U3A 
> itself who has a story to tell. (I haven?t noticed any ex Euro MPs 
> offering their services for petrol, tea and bun.)
> Or there are walking groups, with an enthusiastic leader organising 
> rambles or museum or places of interest visits.
> Basically, it?s mutual teaching stuff with someone who has ?retired? 
> lecturing or teaching or leading a group for the joy of continuing to 
> spread their knowledge or skills for free. Or making tea.
>
>
> Peter Fox
>
> On 17 Oct 2018, at 11:09, Geoff Hawkes via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk 
> <mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>> wrote:
>
>> Hi Bernie,
>>
>> If there was a ?Like? button, I?d be pressing it for what you said 
>> about some students being better off not going to university. My wife 
>> has said the same for a long time and I agree,
>>
>> *Geoff*
>>
>> *From:*Tech1 [mailto:tech1-bounces at tech-ops.co.uk] *On Behalf Of 
>> *Bernard Newnham via Tech1
>> *Sent:* 17 October 2018 10:14
>> *To:* tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk <mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
>> *Subject:* [Tech1] U3A
>>
>> Well, the course I was teaching at a university has come to an end 
>> after ten years - 3000 less students this year, so they are 
>> consolidating. I'm all for less university students in general, lots 
>> of the ones I taught should have been out doing useful stuff - rather 
>> than spending money, they should have been making it. I keep reading 
>> stories about "can't get the staff" - these kids should have been out 
>> there getting trained on some sandwich course or apprenticeship or 
>> something.
>>
>> Still - it leaves me at a slight loose end. I may have retired for 
>> the third time.
>>
>> There was something in the paper about the University of the Third 
>> Age.? I looked up the local one, but it wasn't too clear about the 
>> way it works. So - anyone here have experience that they can pass 
>> on?? Does one teach or does one learn? Or both?
>>
>> cheers
>>
>> B
>>
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From dave.mdv at btinternet.com  Wed Oct 17 17:42:47 2018
From: dave.mdv at btinternet.com (dave.mdv)
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2018 23:42:47 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Whatever happened to .....
Message-ID: <f8de68f2-1919-5677-5cca-528a878551cb@btinternet.com>

1) CB radio? I remember protest convoys demanding legalisation of 
something in common use in the US. On OBs it was seen as a great tool 
for everyone travelling to site to keep people in touch with traffic 
problems etc. The government eventually gave in and legalised FM CB and 
not the illegal, but popular AM CB, and that was that! End of story! I 
have still got an unused, legal, CB radio kit from Dixon's together with 
a magnetic whip aerial. Any offers?
2) 3D television? Remembers Sky's big push for 3D TV including getting 
the Queen to do her Christmas message in 3D to publicise the format. 
Shame on you, Buck. Pal. for falling for that one! Roll on VR TV!
3) North Sea Gas - free for everyone!
    .... and so on, anybody got any favourites? Cheers, Dave



From dave.mdv at btinternet.com  Wed Oct 17 18:30:05 2018
From: dave.mdv at btinternet.com (dave.mdv)
Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2018 00:30:05 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Scary trips
Message-ID: <78c1689c-fa8e-1d13-9b4b-23f073c4573d@btinternet.com>

Typical! If you want a really scary trip try visiting Skippers Canyon on 
New Zealand's South Island, near Queenstown. You travel, with eyes 
tightly closed (!), in old Toyota SUVs converted to 4-wheel drive by the 
owners(!), along an adverse camber gravel path alongside a mountain with 
nothing to stop a gentle slide into the abyss! Spectacular views down 
onto the white-water rafting hundreds of feet below, ending up over a 
rickety bridge at a small school building. The kids used to get there by 
crossing a narrow bridge (where lunatincs now bungy jump from!) with hot 
stones in their pockets to ward off the frostbite. A nice lunch and back 
by the same terrifying route. I've got the baseball cap to prove we 
survived but it was a tight sphincter day all round! Cheers, Dave.


From dave.mdv at btinternet.com  Wed Oct 17 18:30:54 2018
From: dave.mdv at btinternet.com (dave.mdv)
Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2018 00:30:54 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Whatever happened to ,....
Message-ID: <543c7da2-c771-f91f-9007-eff083d0b75a@btinternet.com>

1) CB radio? I remember protest convoys demanding legalisation of 
something in common use in the US. On OBs it was seen as a great tool 
for everyone travelling to site to keep people in touch with traffic 
problems etc. The government eventually gave in and legalised FM CB and 
not the illegal, but popular AM CB, and that was that! End of story! I 
have still got an unused, legal, CB radio kit from Dixon's together with 
a magnetic whip aerial. Any offers?
2) 3D television? Remembers Sky's big push for 3D TV including getting 
the Queen to do her Christmas message in 3D to publicise the format. 
Shame on you, Buck. Pal. for falling for that one! Roll on VR TV!
3) North Sea Gas - free for everyone!
    .... and so on, anybody got any favourites? Cheers, Dave


From alawrance1 at me.com  Thu Oct 18 02:02:40 2018
From: alawrance1 at me.com (Alasdair Lawrance)
Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2018 08:02:40 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Whatever happened to.....
Message-ID: <3B1D47B5-7277-450E-8CCC-F8800C4BD5DA@me.com>

Douneray - electricity so cheap it wouldn't be worth metering......

Alasdair Lawrance

Sent from my iPad2


From rogerbunce at btinternet.com  Thu Oct 18 03:40:40 2018
From: rogerbunce at btinternet.com (ROGER BUNCE)
Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2018 08:40:40 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Tech1] Scary trips
In-Reply-To: <7bc70136-129f-33eb-976b-80515f9f517f@btinternet.com>
References: <7bc70136-129f-33eb-976b-80515f9f517f@btinternet.com>
Message-ID: <83501592.18101017.1539852040750@mail.yahoo.com>

 Yer Wot! I loved that trip!
And you didn't finish it off with a jet-boat ride along the Shotover? - Or the bungie jump? You have no sense of adventure!
Leaning out the side of the truck pointing a video camera always helps. There's something about looking at the world through a camera that reassures you that none of it's real, it's only tele. Apparently, they can't get insurance for driving along that half-road half-precipice.
I even still have the video I shot while doing the bungie jump! (O.K. anyone who can tell the difference between a track and a zoom will realise that I didn't actually do the bungie jump - but I have the video!)
luv, Rog.

    On Wednesday, 17 October 2018, 23:02:34 BST, dave.mdv via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:  
 
 Typical! If you want a really scary trip try visiting Skippers Canyon on 
New Zealand's South Island, near Queenstown. You travel, with eyes 
tightly closed (!), in old Toyota SUVs converted to 4-wheel drive by the 
owners(!), along an adverse camber gravel path alongside a mountain with 
nothing to stop a gentle slide into the abyss! Spectacular views down 
onto the white-water rafting hundreds of feet below, ending up over a 
rickety bridge at a small school building. The kids used to get there by 
crossing a narrow bridge (where lunatincs now bungy jump from!) with hot 
stones in their pockets to ward off the frostbite. A nice lunch and back 
by the same terrifying route. I've got the baseball cap to prove we 
survived but it was a tight sphincter day all round! Cheers, Dave.

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From johnhcox at gmail.com  Thu Oct 18 05:08:25 2018
From: johnhcox at gmail.com (John Cox)
Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2018 11:08:25 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Beatles, Abbey Road? B&W Scanner? When?
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Robin Sutherland?s guess is correct, by shear coincidence I have been  in touch with Nick Gilbey. He actually saw MCR28 at Abbey Road on that day. He has BBC archive material of the scanner. Jack Belasco was the E M and Elizabeth Bale could have been  the P A.
 Jack Belasco is in the photograph(fourth from left with his back to camera) of the first Baird television outside  broadcast  from Epsom which was on a back page of Prospero some years ago and is now on the Historical Content page  on mcr21.org.uk.  Jack was in London Tel OBs for a time before he went to Bristol.  He was very popular in Dartmouth, he  loved fishing and sailing  and when he died a small rock was named after him.
 The email address for Nick Gilbey is wrong in the current edition of Prospero, it is Rndgilbey at gmail.com
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From alec.bray.2 at gmail.com  Thu Oct 18 09:33:51 2018
From: alec.bray.2 at gmail.com (Alec Bray)
Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2018 15:33:51 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Beatles, Abbey Road? B&W Scanner? When?
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Hi all,

On 18/10/2018 11:08, John Cox via Tech1 wrote:
> He actually saw MCR28 at Abbey Road on that day.

Help!!

Unfortunately, the rear end of MCR28 (on the right, in photos available 
to me!) does not match up with the rear of the OB? unit shown in the 
photo of John Lennon on the day of "Our? World") (on the left)..

Scanners
<http://tech-ops.co.uk/next/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/Our_World_2_4.png>


 ?see page: http://tech-ops.co.uk/next/our-world-all-you-need-is-love-2/

Any explanations anyone?


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From gary_critcher at yahoo.com  Thu Oct 18 09:37:39 2018
From: gary_critcher at yahoo.com (Gary Critcher)
Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2018 14:37:39 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Tech1] Beatles, Abbey Road? B&W Scanner? When?
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Lads, ?here's the only other pic of the Boys on the morning of the 'Our World' programme, is this any help?
? all the best,Gary C 

    On Thursday, 18 October 2018, 15:34, Alec Bray via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
 

  Hi all,
 
 On 18/10/2018 11:08, John Cox via Tech1 wrote:
  
He actually saw MCR28 at Abbey Road on that day.
 
 Help!!
 
 Unfortunately, the rear end of MCR28 (on the right, in photos available to me!) does not match up with the rear of the OB? unit shown in the photo of John Lennon on the day of "Our? World") (on the left).. 
  
  ?see page:? http://tech-ops.co.uk/next/our-world-all-you-need-is-love-2/ Any explanations anyone? 
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From rogerbunce at btinternet.com  Thu Oct 18 15:48:04 2018
From: rogerbunce at btinternet.com (ROGER BUNCE)
Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2018 20:48:04 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Tech1] Fw:  Scary trips
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 P.S. On another jet-boat trip, on another part of the Shotover River, nearer Queenstown, we were the only people aboard, apart from a Japanese film crew. It was a wet and stormy evening, getting dark, and the film crew decided they couldn't do any filming. But I wasn't going to get another chance, so I was leaning out of the boat, shooting away happily with my toy-town, amateur-night video camera. Oddly, as we careered across the rapids, one of the Japanese chaps kept pulling me back into the boat. I didn't know enough Japanese to explain that, "I am a professional BBC Cameraman. I know what I'm doing!"
When I came to watch it back, I'd got some pretty spectacular shots. As we hurtled past those ragged rocks, they really looked as though they were only inches from the lens! Then I remembered that it was my widest lens. So, in reality, they were even closer than that!
Thank you Mr. Japanese man! I withdraw the remark about knowing what I was doing.
As previously observed, when you're looking at the world through a viewfinder, you can convince yourself that it's all perfectly safe. None of it's real. It's only tele.
luv, Rog.

   ----- Forwarded message ----- From: ROGER BUNCE via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>To: "tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk" <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>Sent: Thursday, 18 October 2018, 09:43:00 BSTSubject: Re: [Tech1] Scary trips
  Yer Wot! I loved that trip!
And you didn't finish it off with a jet-boat ride along the Shotover? - Or the bungie jump? You have no sense of adventure!
Leaning out the side of the truck pointing a video camera always helps. There's something about looking at the world through a camera that reassures you that none of it's real, it's only tele. Apparently, they can't get insurance for driving along that half-road half-precipice.
I even still have the video I shot while doing the bungie jump! (O.K. anyone who can tell the difference between a track and a zoom will realise that I didn't actually do the bungie jump - but I have the video!)
luv, Rog.

    On Wednesday, 17 October 2018, 23:02:34 BST, dave.mdv via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:  
 
 Typical! If you want a really scary trip try visiting Skippers Canyon on 
New Zealand's South Island, near Queenstown. You travel, with eyes 
tightly closed (!), in old Toyota SUVs converted to 4-wheel drive by the 
owners(!), along an adverse camber gravel path alongside a mountain with 
nothing to stop a gentle slide into the abyss! Spectacular views down 
onto the white-water rafting hundreds of feet below, ending up over a 
rickety bridge at a small school building. The kids used to get there by 
crossing a narrow bridge (where lunatincs now bungy jump from!) with hot 
stones in their pockets to ward off the frostbite. A nice lunch and back 
by the same terrifying route. I've got the baseball cap to prove we 
survived but it was a tight sphincter day all round! Cheers, Dave.

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From mibridge at mac.com  Thu Oct 18 18:11:13 2018
From: mibridge at mac.com (Mike Giles)
Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2018 00:11:13 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Beatles, Abbey Road? B&W Scanner? When?
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I?ve heard from a Bristol cameraman, one Sandy Tristem, who was at Abbey Rd in 1967 for "All you need is Love". Derek Burrell Davis was the Producer, SS was Alan Hitchcock, and his assistant may have been Mike Smyth, whom some may remember.

MCR28 was the main unit but had an extra camera on a crane from London. The cameraman was Dave Gotteagh. Sandy got the Beatles autographs and sold them 20 yrs ago for ?2.500, but wishes he?d kept them as they would be worth nearer ?8k now. 

So any colour footage was either shot on film at the time, or has since been colourised. The WW1 material that?s been shown recently is quite amazing, and the bits I?ve seen and heard seemed nicely underplayed - the colour and dubbed sound are not intrusive.

Mike G

> On 18 Oct 2018, at 15:37, Gary Critcher via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> Lads,  here's the only other pic of the Boys on the morning of the 'Our World' programme, is this any help?
> 
>   all the best,
> Gary C
> 
> 
> On Thursday, 18 October 2018, 15:34, Alec Bray via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi all,
> 
>> On 18/10/2018 11:08, John Cox via Tech1 wrote:
>> He actually saw MCR28 at Abbey Road on that day.
> 
> Help!!
> 
> Unfortunately, the rear end of MCR28 (on the right, in photos available to me!) does not match up with the rear of the OB  unit shown in the photo of John Lennon on the day of "Our  World") (on the left)..
> 
> 
>  see page:  http://tech-ops.co.uk/next/our-world-all-you-need-is-love-2/
> Any explanations anyone?
> 
> -- 
> 
> Best Regards
> 
> Alec
> 
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> 
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From alec.bray.2 at gmail.com  Fri Oct 19 02:04:10 2018
From: alec.bray.2 at gmail.com (Alec Bray)
Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2018 08:04:10 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Beatles, Abbey Road? B&W Scanner? When?
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That's great!  But when, why etc was the rear of MCR28 changed ?

sent from my mobile phone. Apologies for any strange autocorrections.

On Fri, 19 Oct 2018, 00:11 Mike Giles, <mibridge at mac.com> wrote:

> I?ve heard from a Bristol cameraman, one Sandy Tristem, who was at Abbey
> Rd in 1967 for "All you need is Love". Derek Burrell Davis was the
> Producer, SS was Alan Hitchcock, and his assistant may have been Mike
> Smyth, whom some may remember.
>
> MCR28 was the main unit but had an extra camera on a crane from London.
> The cameraman was Dave Gotteagh. Sandy got the Beatles autographs and sold
> them 20 yrs ago for ?2.500, but wishes he?d kept them as they would be
> worth nearer ?8k now.
>
> So any colour footage was either shot on film at the time, or has since
> been colourised. The WW1 material that?s been shown recently is quite
> amazing, and the bits I?ve seen and heard seemed nicely underplayed - the
> colour and dubbed sound are not intrusive.
>
> Mike G
>
> On 18 Oct 2018, at 15:37, Gary Critcher via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
> Lads,  here's the only other pic of the Boys on the morning of the 'Our
> World' programme, is this any help?
>
>   all the best,
> Gary C
>
>
> On Thursday, 18 October 2018, 15:34, Alec Bray via Tech1 <
> tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
> Hi all,
>
> On 18/10/2018 11:08, John Cox via Tech1 wrote:
>
> He actually saw MCR28 at Abbey Road on that day.
>
>
> Help!!
>
> Unfortunately, the rear end of MCR28 (on the right, in photos available to
> me!) does not match up with the rear of the OB  unit shown in the photo of
> John Lennon on the day of "Our  World") (on the left)..
> [image: Scanners]
> <http://tech-ops.co.uk/next/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/Our_World_2_4.png>
>
>  see page:  http://tech-ops.co.uk/next/our-world-all-you-need-is-love-2/
> Any explanations anyone?
>
> --
>
> Best Regards
>
> Alec
>
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From alec.bray.2 at gmail.com  Fri Oct 19 02:14:57 2018
From: alec.bray.2 at gmail.com (Alec Bray)
Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2018 08:14:57 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Beatles, Abbey Road? B&W Scanner? When?
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... unless, of course, the photo which purports to be MCR28 is in fact a
different MCR. In which case, which one is it?
BR Alec

sent from my mobile phone. Apologies for any strange autocorrections.

On Fri, 19 Oct 2018, 00:11 Mike Giles, <mibridge at mac.com> wrote:

> I?ve heard from a Bristol cameraman, one Sandy Tristem, who was at Abbey
> Rd in 1967 for "All you need is Love". Derek Burrell Davis was the
> Producer, SS was Alan Hitchcock, and his assistant may have been Mike
> Smyth, whom some may remember.
>
> MCR28 was the main unit but had an extra camera on a crane from London.
> The cameraman was Dave Gotteagh. Sandy got the Beatles autographs and sold
> them 20 yrs ago for ?2.500, but wishes he?d kept them as they would be
> worth nearer ?8k now.
>
> So any colour footage was either shot on film at the time, or has since
> been colourised. The WW1 material that?s been shown recently is quite
> amazing, and the bits I?ve seen and heard seemed nicely underplayed - the
> colour and dubbed sound are not intrusive.
>
> Mike G
>
> On 18 Oct 2018, at 15:37, Gary Critcher via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
> Lads,  here's the only other pic of the Boys on the morning of the 'Our
> World' programme, is this any help?
>
>   all the best,
> Gary C
>
>
> On Thursday, 18 October 2018, 15:34, Alec Bray via Tech1 <
> tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
> Hi all,
>
> On 18/10/2018 11:08, John Cox via Tech1 wrote:
>
> He actually saw MCR28 at Abbey Road on that day.
>
>
> Help!!
>
> Unfortunately, the rear end of MCR28 (on the right, in photos available to
> me!) does not match up with the rear of the OB  unit shown in the photo of
> John Lennon on the day of "Our  World") (on the left)..
> [image: Scanners]
> <http://tech-ops.co.uk/next/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/Our_World_2_4.png>
>
>  see page:  http://tech-ops.co.uk/next/our-world-all-you-need-is-love-2/
> Any explanations anyone?
>
> --
>
> Best Regards
>
> Alec
>
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From mibridge at mac.com  Fri Oct 19 02:29:22 2018
From: mibridge at mac.com (Mike Giles)
Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2018 08:29:22 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] MCR 28
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Apologies to Alec as he?s had this already. 

I didn?t get a useable version of the photo to see what has prompted the question, but I do t recall any change to MCR28?s bodywork from 1965, when I went to Bristol and the time it was pensioned off when we went colour with CMCR3 (I think). When I think back, it was amazing that a complete crew went to Kendal Avenue from Bristol, including rigger-drivers, for a month to do acceptance tests on our ?new? scanner! We ended up doing a couple of real OB?s whilst we were there, but the initial intention was simply to sit in base poking everything and perhaps have a run down the road just to make sure the wheels turned. 

We were pleased to be able to say that we solved a few problems that had existed during the three years it had been in use, but I can only remember the detail of a couple of them, which I won?t bore you with unless somebody asks!

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From dave.mdv at btinternet.com  Fri Oct 19 03:17:57 2018
From: dave.mdv at btinternet.com (dave.mdv)
Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2018 09:17:57 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Abbey Road Beatles 'do'
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? the Intertel colour scanner? Dave Denness will know! Cheers, Dave


From johnhcox at gmail.com  Fri Oct 19 04:48:08 2018
From: johnhcox at gmail.com (John Cox)
Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2018 10:48:08 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Beatles, Abbey Road? B&W Scanner? When?
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Thank you Mike Giles for that conformation of MCR28. I knew all the people mentioned. Mike Smyth worked in London Tel OBs for a short time before returning to Bristol. His name was announced in the entertainments area on a cruise ship I was once on in the Mediterranean sea. Dave Gautier and Alan Hayward (who also went to Bristol) were the cameramen on the LPU, Alan is seen sitting on a horse with his camera on B B C tv LPU1/History
 Alec your picture is not very clear, in that position on the back of the scanner usually hung an iron rung ladder which gave access to the roof where we could rig an aerial or camera.
 I was sound supervisor at Heathrow Airport when the Beatles made their famous return from America early in the morning when the fans were standing on car rooves or anything up high. While adjusting the microphones in the press room I held our mic and one other and got a nasty electrical shock. I told the operator off, he didn?t understand double wound transformers!
 The relevant interview  with David Coleman is on YouTube.
 Isn?t it amazing how a simple phrase from (John Nottage) or anyone can trigger  memories of long ago.


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From waresound at msn.com  Fri Oct 19 05:47:42 2018
From: waresound at msn.com (Nick Ware)
Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2018 10:47:42 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Abbey Road Beatles 'do'
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Nothing to do with trucks or TV, but my Beatles ?moment? was at Abbey Road in 1968. My Brother-in-Law and I had started a small independent record label in 1967, and because of a close friendship with EMI Producer, Brian Culverhouse [*], got our disc mastering and pressings done at EMI.
I was in an Abbey Road disc mastering room, cutting lacquers for our first 12? LP, when in walked George Martin, who started asking my advice about a PA system for his local church. He apparently had been told of my involvement with the one at Guildford Cathedral!
In his hand were half a dozen or so ?white label? test pressings of the White Album. He gave me a copy, complete with its non serial numbered white sleeve. They weren?t promo copies, but actual first test pressings (the sleeve itself, a printer?s proof). On a subsequent visit I was given a production copy in sleeve number 0357261, which I still have. It was quite normal to see the Beatles in the corridors and canteen, and I never really thought anything of it.
Sadly, because I had no idea how valuable that double-album test pressing would eventually be, I either lent it to someone, or just lost it in one of several flat-moves. Pity, it would be worth serious money now.

We parted company with EMI after a mistake at the Hayes pressing factory resulted in a faulty batch of a thousand finished LPs going direct to our then Dutch distributer. The fault? Side one was ours OK, but for side two, the machine operator had accidently left a stamper for (IIRC) a Kinks album in the press! We got a lot of ?returns? that we had to deal with. I was never completely sure whether the complainers were asking for our side two, or the Kinks? side one!
Nick.
[*] Brian Culverhouse - founder of ?Music for Pleasure?, ?Classics for Pleasure?, etc.
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On 19 Oct 2018, at 09:18, dave.mdv via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk<mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>> wrote:

? the Intertel colour scanner? Dave Denness will know! Cheers, Dave

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From patheigham at amps.net  Fri Oct 19 08:51:40 2018
From: patheigham at amps.net (patheigham)
Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2018 14:51:40 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Fw:  Scary trips
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I took a holiday boat trip across the Indian Ocean from Durban to Bali,
equipped with an S-VHS camera (in those days). Most of the trip I only
saw in B/W via the viewfinder.
However the small ship?s library had a videotape collection and a large
screen TV, which on exploration in true BBC fashion, yielded every
type of input sockets. Seeking permission from the ship?s personnel,
I was reviewing footage shot of the lemurs in Madagascar, when a couple
of fellow passengers wandered in after dinner, looked at the screen
and asked if it was one of the Nat Geographic videos from the library!
Much complimented, I invited them to stay a while as they would then see
themselves!
The word got around and all the other passengers (only 30 on board)
wanted to see the movie. This earned me a place at the Captain?s dinner
on Christmas Eve (Swedish crew celebrate Christmas on the Eve).
My lady travelling companion also earned her place at the table by
swimming with a shark in the ship?s little swimming pool ? but that?s
another story ? e-mail me if you want to know the circumstances.
Best
Pat

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From: ROGER BUNCE via Tech1
Sent: 18 October 2018 21:48
Subject: [Tech1] Fw: Scary trips

P.S. On another jet-boat trip, on another part of the Shotover River, nearer Queenstown, we were the only people aboard, apart from a Japanese film crew. It was a wet and stormy evening, getting dark, and the film crew decided they couldn't do any filming. But I wasn't going to get another chance, so I was leaning out of the boat, shooting away happily with my toy-town, amateur-night video camera. Oddly, as we careered across the rapids, one of the Japanese chaps kept pulling me back into the boat. I didn't know enough Japanese to explain that, "I am a professional BBC Cameraman. I know what I'm doing!"

When I came to watch it back, I'd got some pretty spectacular shots. As we hurtled past those ragged rocks, they really looked as though they were only inches from the lens! Then I remembered that it was my widest lens. So, in reality, they were even closer than that!

Thank you Mr. Japanese man! I withdraw the remark about knowing what I was doing.

As previously observed, when you're looking at the world through a viewfinder, you can convince yourself that it's all perfectly safe. None of it's real. It's only tele.

luv, Rog.





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From dave.mdv at btinternet.com  Fri Oct 19 15:38:40 2018
From: dave.mdv at btinternet.com (dave.mdv)
Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2018 21:38:40 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] 'Flu jab
Message-ID: <e14b0400-5f00-e975-8cbb-e176c89b88cd@btinternet.com>

Has anyone else reacted badly to this year's 'flu jab? The medics always 
insist that it is a passive vaccine and will not give you 'flu symptoms. 
However, last year my brother-in-law was very ill for a couple of weeks 
and a friend of my wife was also afflicted. This year it is a new 
'advanced' vaccine being rolled out universally. I don't normally react 
to the jab but this year I have had a sore throat followed by a runny 
nose and a very tickly cough for over a week, resulting in my ribs being 
so painful that I dread the next cough! Any other sufferers? Cheers, Dave


From dave.mdv at btinternet.com  Fri Oct 19 15:49:35 2018
From: dave.mdv at btinternet.com (dave.mdv)
Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2018 21:49:35 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] 'Flu jab
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PS. A friend of mine told me that the 'flu jab made his wife 'go stiff' 
which is the only reason I decided to have it! Cheers, Dave


From mibridge at mac.com  Fri Oct 19 16:10:46 2018
From: mibridge at mac.com (Mike Giles)
Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2018 22:10:46 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Beatles, Abbey Road? B&W Scanner? When?
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An update on names at Abbey Road ~ other Bristol cameramen were Dave Farmer, Stan Westwood and Johnny Westcott  and the crane cameraman was  Dave Gautier ~ but you probably guessed from the phonetic spelling! 

As to the colour pics. Wikipedia (I know) says that they were colourised for the 1995 Beatles anthology using original colour photos for reference.

Mike G


> On 19 Oct 2018, at 10:48, John Cox via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
>  
> Thank you Mike Giles for that conformation of MCR28. I knew all the people mentioned. Mike Smyth worked in London Tel OBs for a short time before returning to Bristol. His name was announced in the entertainments area on a cruise ship I was once on in the Mediterranean sea. Dave Gautier and Alan Hayward (who also went to Bristol) were the cameramen on the LPU, Alan is seen sitting on a horse with his camera on B B C tv LPU1/History
> Alec your picture is not very clear, in that position on the back of the scanner usually hung an iron rung ladder which gave access to the roof where we could rig an aerial or camera.
> I was sound supervisor at Heathrow Airport when the Beatles made their famous return from America early in the morning when the fans were standing on car rooves or anything up high. While adjusting the microphones in the press room I held our mic and one other and got a nasty electrical shock. I told the operator off, he didn?t understand double wound transformers!
> The relevant interview  with David Coleman is on YouTube.
> Isn?t it amazing how a simple phrase from (John Nottage) or anyone can trigger  memories of long ago.
>  
>  
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From waresound at msn.com  Fri Oct 19 16:43:19 2018
From: waresound at msn.com (Nick Ware)
Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2018 21:43:19 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] 'Flu jab
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I hope this story had a happy ending.
N?

Sent from my iPad

On 19 Oct 2018, at 21:50, dave.mdv via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk<mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>> wrote:

PS. A friend of mine told me that the 'flu jab made his wife 'go stiff' which is the only reason I decided to have it! Cheers, Dave

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From bernie833 at gmail.com  Fri Oct 19 16:44:43 2018
From: bernie833 at gmail.com (Bernard Newnham)
Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2018 22:44:43 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] 'Flu jab
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I just had a slightly achy arm for a couple of days, though my 
Neutrophil count - white blood cells - is a little down. That could be 
something else

B



On 19/10/2018 21:49, dave.mdv via Tech1 wrote:
> PS. A friend of mine told me that the 'flu jab made his wife 'go 
> stiff' which is the only reason I decided to have it! Cheers, Dave
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From mibridge at mac.com  Fri Oct 19 16:50:06 2018
From: mibridge at mac.com (Mike Giles)
Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2018 22:50:06 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] 'Flu jab
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Hi Dave,

After last year?s jab I had mild fluey symptoms for about 24 hours, but nothing developed, and this year, as has been the case for the several years we?ve been jabbed, there was no reaction at all.

What we have noticed is that since we started having flu injections however long ago, significant colds have been much less frequent. I presume that this is not entirely coincidental, but I?ve not heard much reference to colds being suppressed along with the flu.

I?m touching wood as I mention this, particularly as soon after last year?s jab my wife went down with shingles on the first day of a week in Italy ~ not that I think there?s any connection there, but having had the jabs a month ago, we?re off for a week to Gran Canaria, so I?ve got fingers crossed that history isn?t repeated!

Mike G


> On 19 Oct 2018, at 21:38, dave.mdv via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> Has anyone else reacted badly to this year's 'flu jab? The medics always insist that it is a passive vaccine and will not give you 'flu symptoms. However, last year my brother-in-law was very ill for a couple of weeks and a friend of my wife was also afflicted. This year it is a new 'advanced' vaccine being rolled out universally. I don't normally react to the jab but this year I have had a sore throat followed by a runny nose and a very tickly cough for over a week, resulting in my ribs being so painful that I dread the next cough! Any other sufferers? Cheers, Dave
> 
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From geoffreyhawkes at btinternet.com  Fri Oct 19 17:16:57 2018
From: geoffreyhawkes at btinternet.com (Geoffrey Hawkes)
Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2018 23:16:57 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] 'Flu jab
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I had the jab three weeks ago and apart from it making my arm a tiny bit painful, I had no reaction whatever. I don't get much of a reaction to the flu jab anyway but this time it was particularly mild and I hardly noticed it.
It was advertised for over 65's and someone was telling me tonight that it isn't the usual mix but is designed to lessen the effects of flu if you catch it. It's all a gamble as to whether there will be an outbreak this winter. I just think that I wouldn't want flu and if this helps avoid it, it's worth having.
People who've had a bad reaction to the vaccine may think otherwise. My wife always declines even though she's never tried it, being generally medication averse as some people are and that's their choice,
Geoff

Sent from my iPad

> On 19 Oct 2018, at 21:38, dave.mdv via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> Has anyone else reacted badly to this year's 'flu jab? The medics always insist that it is a passive vaccine and will not give you 'flu symptoms. However, last year my brother-in-law was very ill for a couple of weeks and a friend of my wife was also afflicted. This year it is a new 'advanced' vaccine being rolled out universally. I don't normally react to the jab but this year I have had a sore throat followed by a runny nose and a very tickly cough for over a week, resulting in my ribs being so painful that I dread the next cough! Any other sufferers? Cheers, Dave
> 
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From bernie833 at gmail.com  Sat Oct 20 03:53:32 2018
From: bernie833 at gmail.com (Bernard Newnham)
Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2018 09:53:32 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] 'Flu jab
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Over 65s get Fluad this year - https://www.fluad.com/

B


On 19/10/2018 23:16, Geoffrey Hawkes via Tech1 wrote:
> I had the jab three weeks ago and apart from it making my arm a tiny bit painful, I had no reaction whatever. I don't get much of a reaction to the flu jab anyway but this time it was particularly mild and I hardly noticed it.
> It was advertised for over 65's and someone was telling me tonight that it isn't the usual mix but is designed to lessen the effects of flu if you catch it. It's all a gamble as to whether there will be an outbreak this winter. I just think that I wouldn't want flu and if this helps avoid it, it's worth having.
> People who've had a bad reaction to the vaccine may think otherwise. My wife always declines even though she's never tried it, being generally medication averse as some people are and that's their choice,
> Geoff
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On 19 Oct 2018, at 21:38, dave.mdv via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>> Has anyone else reacted badly to this year's 'flu jab? The medics always insist that it is a passive vaccine and will not give you 'flu symptoms. However, last year my brother-in-law was very ill for a couple of weeks and a friend of my wife was also afflicted. This year it is a new 'advanced' vaccine being rolled out universally. I don't normally react to the jab but this year I have had a sore throat followed by a runny nose and a very tickly cough for over a week, resulting in my ribs being so painful that I dread the next cough! Any other sufferers? Cheers, Dave
>>
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From waresound at msn.com  Sat Oct 20 04:04:45 2018
From: waresound at msn.com (Nick Ware)
Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2018 09:04:45 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Fw:  Scary trips
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I?ve got one for you: This was a story about a relatively unknown Ukranian figure skater who had unexpectedly won a Gold in Helsinki, and the Americans suddenly became very interested in her. We were sent on ahead of her to Kiev to profile her background and film her homecoming, but the following day she was whisked off to New York from Helsinki. That meant that for us the story dried up suddenly and we were told we would have to leave Kiev next day, and it could only be by Ukraine International Airlines (I think it was called Air Ukraine back then, sometime in the 80?s). We?d flown from Helsinki to Kiev with Lufthansa, and had expected to return home with them. Cameraman Graham Berry and I, plus the American AP (who?d never been outside the USA before), all said: ?Sorry, we?ll wait for our Lufthansa return flight, we don?t do third world airlines?, but the fixer said: ?Not possible, but don?t worry, it?s a brand new Boeing 737-400, chartered from a Spanish company, and our pilots are all trained by Aer Lingus.
Not totally convinced, and against our better judgement, we  boarded the aircraft, and were seated in row 1, right by the foreward door. Apparently we were being given VIP treatment.That flight was to take us to Cologne, where we would connect with a regular Lufthansa flight to Heathrow. I later discovered that Air Ukraine were at the time not allowed into Heathrow because of their bad accident track-record!
The  737 certainly looked brand spanking new. So the doors were closed, the engines ran up, and without any of the mandatory checks or procedures whatsoever, we taxied, then turned sharply onto the runway, the port engine almost touching the tarmac, and immediately the Captain opened up the throttles and started to roll. Then, at considerable speed, and about halfway down the runway, there was an almighty BANG and the door right next to us blew open, smashing hard against the fuselage by my left ear. The emergency escape shoot inflated, got ripped off by the wind-speed, and went farting away across the snow! How it didn?t get sucked into the port engine with catastrophic results, I?ll never know. If it had happened in flight I wouldn?t be here today. The pilot slammed on the brakes, and he and the co-pilot both came rushing back to see what the problem was, leaving no-one up front. Now stationary, we could feel the power of the engines still on half throttle, just, but only just, held by the brakes. A fierce slanging match ensued, during which the pilots and the steward clambered over us, struggling to grab the door and close it. Which they managed to do.
We rather assumed that we would return to the terminal so that checks could be carried out, and ideally switch us to another aircraft. No chance of that: it was the only one!
But undeterred, the pilots took their seats, and from where we were, opened the throttles fully again, and we took off on what little bit of runway was left. All the time on the climb-out we wondered about the integrity of that door, and the mass of ice building up on the leading edges of the wings. The Sherman whimpered and near shat himself, and we just hoped for the best.
But somehow, we landed safely in Cologne. We?d missed our connecting flight, the last one that day. The only desk still open was Scandinavian Airlines. We told them what had just happened, and they very generously flew us first class to Gothenberg, put us up in a five star associate hotel, took care of the excess baggage (and Carnet), and then flew us to Heathrow the following morning - all free of charge.
I?ve related this story many times to airline pilots and the like, to their utter amazement and incredulity! We?d had a lucky escape.
Best regards,
Nick.
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From gary_critcher at yahoo.com  Sat Oct 20 06:26:08 2018
From: gary_critcher at yahoo.com (Gary Critcher)
Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2018 11:26:08 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Tech1] ...does anyone remember Lionel Harris?
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this ?made interesting reading:????https://forgottentelevisiondrama.wordpress.com/2018/10/19/a-life-found-in-a-skip-rediscovering-lionel-harris-tv-producer-director-and-actor/
? Does any one here remember him?


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From johnhcox at gmail.com  Sat Oct 20 07:58:08 2018
From: johnhcox at gmail.com (John Cox)
Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2018 13:58:08 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Beatles. Abbey Road? B&W Scanner? When?
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Alec, in your original request for Help!! I thought that I wouldn?t be able to, in fact I drew a complete blank! But after a couple of days of racking my brains (the memory ones) I remembered that on most OBs a Post Office van  would often accompany us. It?s purpose was to assess the video waveform before sending it to Broadcasting House. The Sound was sent by ordinary telephone wires. The confusing vehicle could be a Post Office van (later British Telecom) painted a similar green as the BBC  scanner or a BBC  Radio van. It was a very long time ago!
  You can see the hand/foot holds at the back of the scanner in Gary Critcher?s pictures. Some vehicles had iron rung ladders.

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From peter.fox at tiscali.co.uk  Sat Oct 20 11:06:07 2018
From: peter.fox at tiscali.co.uk (Peter Fox)
Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2018 17:06:07 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] 'Flu jab
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I got something that I couldn?t distinguish from flu last January. It was particularly annoying because I was due to look after my cousin before and after her impending hip op including taking and fetching her from hospital. I queried the advisabality of having a flu jab from the practice nurse in view of my ?caring? role  and whether there might be any risk of being contagious. ?The flu jab is quite safe? she told me ?but perhaps skip the shingles as it?s a live vaccine?. Five days later I was starting to get a sore throat... and so on. Cousin Meg had to take a taxi in to the clinic and summon a friend to bring her back a few days later. Meg, a pretty cynical retired pathologist, wasn?t surprised at all and told me she never has flu jabs.
(I will have the shingles vaccine though.)
Your mileage may vary and this year?s is different but I won?t be trying it.


Peter Fox

> On 20 Oct 2018, at 09:53, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> Over 65s get Fluad this year - https://www.fluad.com/
> 
> B
> 
> 
>> On 19/10/2018 23:16, Geoffrey Hawkes via Tech1 wrote:
>> I had the jab three weeks ago and apart from it making my arm a tiny bit painful, I had no reaction whatever. I don't get much of a reaction to the flu jab anyway but this time it was particularly mild and I hardly noticed it.
>> It was advertised for over 65's and someone was telling me tonight that it isn't the usual mix but is designed to lessen the effects of flu if you catch it. It's all a gamble as to whether there will be an outbreak this winter. I just think that I wouldn't want flu and if this helps avoid it, it's worth having.
>> People who've had a bad reaction to the vaccine may think otherwise. My wife always declines even though she's never tried it, being generally medication averse as some people are and that's their choice,
>> Geoff
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On 19 Oct 2018, at 21:38, dave.mdv via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Has anyone else reacted badly to this year's 'flu jab? The medics always insist that it is a passive vaccine and will not give you 'flu symptoms. However, last year my brother-in-law was very ill for a couple of weeks and a friend of my wife was also afflicted. This year it is a new 'advanced' vaccine being rolled out universally. I don't normally react to the jab but this year I have had a sore throat followed by a runny nose and a very tickly cough for over a week, resulting in my ribs being so painful that I dread the next cough! Any other sufferers? Cheers, Dave
>>> 
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From rogerbunce at btinternet.com  Sat Oct 20 11:59:44 2018
From: rogerbunce at btinternet.com (ROGER BUNCE)
Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2018 16:59:44 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Tech1] 'Flu jab
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 My wife Pat was given the flu jab 22 years ago. She has diabetes so, although comparatively young, it was on offer to her. My father had it regularly with no ill effects.
Unfortunately, within a week of having the jab, Pat started to feel sick. Within 3 weeks she was jaundiced. It would seem it triggered an auto-immune response which knocked her liver out. She was treated with 2 aggressive drugs for about ten years, and is now declared to be in remission.
As a result neither of us have had the flu jab since.
Regarding last year?s flu jab, it has now been admitted that they chose the wrong combination, so in fact people weren?t protected against last year?s flu.
We wouldn?t touch the shingles jab. We prefer to let our own immune system fight whatever is going around. We were both unwell in early spring with what was probably the flu. We survived!
Pat regrets having the flu jab all those years ago. Her health would have been better today if she hadn?t had it.


    On Saturday, 20 October 2018, 17:06:38 BST, Peter Fox via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:  
 
 I got something that I couldn?t distinguish from flu last January. It was particularly annoying because I was due to look after my cousin before and after her impending hip op including taking and fetching her from hospital. I queried the advisabality of having a flu jab from the practice nurse in view of my ?caring? role ?and whether there might be any risk of being contagious. ?The flu jab is quite safe? she told me ?but perhaps skip the shingles as it?s a live vaccine?. Five days later I was starting to get a sore throat... and so on. Cousin Meg had to take a taxi in to the clinic and summon a friend to bring her back a few days later. Meg, a pretty cynical retired pathologist, wasn?t surprised at all and told me she never has flu jabs.(I will have the shingles vaccine though.)Your mileage may vary and this year?s is different but I won?t be trying it.


Peter Fox
On 20 Oct 2018, at 09:53, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:


 
Over 65s get Fluad this year - https://www.fluad.com/
 
 B
 
 
 On 19/10/2018 23:16, Geoffrey Hawkes via Tech1 wrote:
  
 I had the jab three weeks ago and apart from it making my arm a tiny bit painful, I had no reaction whatever. I don't get much of a reaction to the flu jab anyway but this time it was particularly mild and I hardly noticed it.
It was advertised for over 65's and someone was telling me tonight that it isn't the usual mix but is designed to lessen the effects of flu if you catch it. It's all a gamble as to whether there will be an outbreak this winter. I just think that I wouldn't want flu and if this helps avoid it, it's worth having.
People who've had a bad reaction to the vaccine may think otherwise. My wife always declines even though she's never tried it, being generally medication averse as some people are and that's their choice,
Geoff

Sent from my iPad

 
 On 19 Oct 2018, at 21:38, dave.mdv via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:

Has anyone else reacted badly to this year's 'flu jab? The medics always insist that it is a passive vaccine and will not give you 'flu symptoms. However, last year my brother-in-law was very ill for a couple of weeks and a friend of my wife was also afflicted. This year it is a new 'advanced' vaccine being rolled out universally. I don't normally react to the jab but this year I have had a sore throat followed by a runny nose and a very tickly cough for over a week, resulting in my ribs being so painful that I dread the next cough! Any other sufferers? Cheers, Dave

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From geoffletch at gmail.com  Sat Oct 20 14:04:54 2018
From: geoffletch at gmail.com (Geoff Fletcher)
Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2018 20:04:54 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] 'Flu jab
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My wife and I always have the flu jab and have had very few adverse
reactions following them. However, this year I was fine - not even a sore
arm - but my wife had stiffness in her arms and legs, felt shivery, and was
generally not her normal energetic self for a few days.
Geoff F

On Sat, 20 Oct 2018 at 18:00, ROGER BUNCE via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
wrote:

> My wife Pat was given the flu jab 22 years ago. She has diabetes so,
> although comparatively young, it was on offer to her. My father had it
> regularly with no ill effects.
>
> Unfortunately, within a week of having the jab, Pat started to feel sick.
> Within 3 weeks she was jaundiced. It would seem it triggered an auto-immune
> response which knocked her liver out. She was treated with 2 aggressive
> drugs for about ten years, and is now declared to be in remission.
>
> As a result neither of us have had the flu jab since.
>
> Regarding last year?s flu jab, it has now been admitted that they chose
> the wrong combination, so in fact people weren?t protected against last
> year?s flu.
>
> We wouldn?t touch the shingles jab. We prefer to let our own immune system
> fight whatever is going around. We were both unwell in early spring with
> what was probably the flu. We survived!
>
> Pat regrets having the flu jab all those years ago. Her health would have
> been better today if she hadn?t had it.
>
>
>
> On Saturday, 20 October 2018, 17:06:38 BST, Peter Fox via Tech1 <
> tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
> I got something that I couldn?t distinguish from flu last January. It was
> particularly annoying because I was due to look after my cousin before and
> after her impending hip op including taking and fetching her from hospital.
> I queried the advisabality of having a flu jab from the practice nurse in
> view of my ?caring? role  and whether there might be any risk of being
> contagious. ?The flu jab is quite safe? she told me ?but perhaps skip the
> shingles as it?s a live vaccine?. Five days later I was starting to get a
> sore throat... and so on. Cousin Meg had to take a taxi in to the clinic
> and summon a friend to bring her back a few days later. Meg, a pretty
> cynical retired pathologist, wasn?t surprised at all and told me she never
> has flu jabs.
> (I will have the shingles vaccine though.)
> Your mileage may vary and this year?s is different but I won?t be trying
> it.
>
>
> Peter Fox
>
> On 20 Oct 2018, at 09:53, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
> Over 65s get Fluad this year - https://www.fluad.com/
>
> B
>
>
> On 19/10/2018 23:16, Geoffrey Hawkes via Tech1 wrote:
>
> I had the jab three weeks ago and apart from it making my arm a tiny bit painful, I had no reaction whatever. I don't get much of a reaction to the flu jab anyway but this time it was particularly mild and I hardly noticed it.
> It was advertised for over 65's and someone was telling me tonight that it isn't the usual mix but is designed to lessen the effects of flu if you catch it. It's all a gamble as to whether there will be an outbreak this winter. I just think that I wouldn't want flu and if this helps avoid it, it's worth having.
> People who've had a bad reaction to the vaccine may think otherwise. My wife always declines even though she's never tried it, being generally medication averse as some people are and that's their choice,
> Geoff
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>
> On 19 Oct 2018, at 21:38, dave.mdv via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
>
> Has anyone else reacted badly to this year's 'flu jab? The medics always insist that it is a passive vaccine and will not give you 'flu symptoms. However, last year my brother-in-law was very ill for a couple of weeks and a friend of my wife was also afflicted. This year it is a new 'advanced' vaccine being rolled out universally. I don't normally react to the jab but this year I have had a sore throat followed by a runny nose and a very tickly cough for over a week, resulting in my ribs being so painful that I dread the next cough! Any other sufferers? Cheers, Dave
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From geoffreyhawkes at btinternet.com  Sat Oct 20 16:01:55 2018
From: geoffreyhawkes at btinternet.com (Geoffrey Hawkes)
Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2018 22:01:55 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] 'Flu jab
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Hi Roger,
Sorry to hear about Pat's experience of the 'flu jab and I can understand why that put you off it. I don't know how common or rare such a bad reaction was but I guess the majority of people don't have a problem with it or it wouldn't be rolled out so widely.
My wife was offered it ten years ago while she was having chemotherapy for breast cancer as her immune system was lowered by the drugs but the doctors treating her at Mount Vernon all said they wouldn't be having it and she's always refused it for that reason. I was also offered it at that time as a precaution against me getting 'flu and passing it on to her. I did go for it and have done each year since with no real ill-effects. I've also had the shingles jab, about two years ago and while I sometimes suffer with irritated skin on my body, that may have nothing to do with it and it isn't serious. Likewise when I had the pneumonavax jab two years ago, nothing much to report afterwards.
The only injection I regret having was one for Japanese encephalitis before I went to Nepal in 1998. I had the most horrendous headaches after each of the two doses and wondered what it would've been like if I'd not had it and got the actual infection. As it was, my stay there was cut short by the accident I had while out trekking, so the likelihood was equally reduced - and there was no vaccination to guard against that. Imagine if there had been and they said, "Mr Hawkes, at some point when you're not expecting it, we're going to inflict a minor injury on you to try and prevent you having a worse one. It won't hurt (much), we promise."
You might say that the accident itself did have that effect as I've been extra careful ever since but as with all else, there's no guarantee and you don't get your money back...
Geoff

Sent from my iPad

> On 20 Oct 2018, at 17:59, ROGER BUNCE via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> My wife Pat was given the flu jab 22 years ago. She has diabetes so, although comparatively young, it was on offer to her. My father had it regularly with no ill effects.
> 
> Unfortunately, within a week of having the jab, Pat started to feel sick. Within 3 weeks she was jaundiced. It would seem it triggered an auto-immune response which knocked her liver out. She was treated with 2 aggressive drugs for about ten years, and is now declared to be in remission.
> 
> As a result neither of us have had the flu jab since.
> 
> Regarding last year?s flu jab, it has now been admitted that they chose the wrong combination, so in fact people weren?t protected against last year?s flu.
> 
> We wouldn?t touch the shingles jab. We prefer to let our own immune system fight whatever is going around. We were both unwell in early spring with what was probably the flu. We survived!
> 
> Pat regrets having the flu jab all those years ago. Her health would have been better today if she hadn?t had it.
> 
> 
> 
> On Saturday, 20 October 2018, 17:06:38 BST, Peter Fox via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> 
> I got something that I couldn?t distinguish from flu last January. It was particularly annoying because I was due to look after my cousin before and after her impending hip op including taking and fetching her from hospital. I queried the advisabality of having a flu jab from the practice nurse in view of my ?caring? role  and whether there might be any risk of being contagious. ?The flu jab is quite safe? she told me ?but perhaps skip the shingles as it?s a live vaccine?. Five days later I was starting to get a sore throat... and so on. Cousin Meg had to take a taxi in to the clinic and summon a friend to bring her back a few days later. Meg, a pretty cynical retired pathologist, wasn?t surprised at all and told me she never has flu jabs.
> (I will have the shingles vaccine though.)
> Your mileage may vary and this year?s is different but I won?t be trying it.
> 
> 
> Peter Fox
> 
>> On 20 Oct 2018, at 09:53, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
>> 
> 
> 
> Over 65s get Fluad this year - https://www.fluad.com/
> 
> B
> 
> 
>> On 19/10/2018 23:16, Geoffrey Hawkes via Tech1 wrote:
>> I had the jab three weeks ago and apart from it making my arm a tiny bit painful, I had no reaction whatever. I don't get much of a reaction to the flu jab anyway but this time it was particularly mild and I hardly noticed it.
>> It was advertised for over 65's and someone was telling me tonight that it isn't the usual mix but is designed to lessen the effects of flu if you catch it. It's all a gamble as to whether there will be an outbreak this winter. I just think that I wouldn't want flu and if this helps avoid it, it's worth having.
>> People who've had a bad reaction to the vaccine may think otherwise. My wife always declines even though she's never tried it, being generally medication averse as some people are and that's their choice,
>> Geoff
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On 19 Oct 2018, at 21:38, dave.mdv via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Has anyone else reacted badly to this year's 'flu jab? The medics always insist that it is a passive vaccine and will not give you 'flu symptoms. However, last year my brother-in-law was very ill for a couple of weeks and a friend of my wife was also afflicted. This year it is a new 'advanced' vaccine being rolled out universally. I don't normally react to the jab but this year I have had a sore throat followed by a runny nose and a very tickly cough for over a week, resulting in my ribs being so painful that I dread the next cough! Any other sufferers? Cheers, Dave
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From dave.mdv at btinternet.com  Sun Oct 21 02:56:50 2018
From: dave.mdv at btinternet.com (dave.mdv)
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2018 08:56:50 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Fw: Scary trips
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What a 'great escape' you had! However, you mentioned that dreadful word 
'carnet' which makes me wonder that, after Brexit, will all crews going 
abroad have to go back to using the damn things? I often think about 
getting a late night ferry and trying to find the BBC transport guy with 
the documents. Why was it the when we used to go through the red channel 
at customs the only serial number they wanted to check was on the piece 
of equipment at the bottom of the crate? Cheers, Dave


From geoffletch at gmail.com  Sun Oct 21 03:13:32 2018
From: geoffletch at gmail.com (Geoff Fletcher)
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2018 09:13:32 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Fw: Scary trips
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A Unit Manager friend of mine flew to Riga a few years back in an aged
Russian Tupolev airliner belonging to some small white knuckle airways
company. He too sat next to a forward entrance door, and became a bit
concerned by a loud whistling noise coming from it as the aircraft took off
and climbed out. A fellow passenger sitting next to him, a sales rep from
Birmingham, noticed his unease and told him not to worry as he had flown on
the same aircraft before and it would stop as the door iced up at altitude!
It duly did so, and they landed unscathed. Needless to say, he returned via
a different  airways company.
Geoff F

On Sun, Oct 21, 2018 at 8:57 AM dave.mdv via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
wrote:

> What a 'great escape' you had! However, you mentioned that dreadful word
> 'carnet' which makes me wonder that, after Brexit, will all crews going
> abroad have to go back to using the damn things? I often think about
> getting a late night ferry and trying to find the BBC transport guy with
> the documents. Why was it the when we used to go through the red channel
> at customs the only serial number they wanted to check was on the piece
> of equipment at the bottom of the crate? Cheers, Dave
>
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From dave at davesound.co.uk  Sun Oct 21 04:44:48 2018
From: dave at davesound.co.uk (Dave Plowman)
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2018 10:44:48 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Fw: Scary trips
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In article <87d4a0c1-72cb-b0d7-e7e0-5eee17471516 at btinternet.com>,
   dave.mdv via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> What a 'great escape' you had! However, you mentioned that dreadful word 
> 'carnet' which makes me wonder that, after Brexit, will all crews going 
> abroad have to go back to using the damn things? I often think about 
> getting a late night ferry and trying to find the BBC transport guy with 
> the documents. Why was it the when we used to go through the red channel 
> at customs the only serial number they wanted to check was on the piece 
> of equipment at the bottom of the crate? Cheers, Dave

I have a mate who is a muso, and is currently touring Europe with a well
known band. At the moment it is pretty trouble free - but they are
dreading how it might be with restrictions on movement.

-- 
*I never drink anything stronger than gin before breakfast *

    Dave Plowman     dave at davesound.co.uk     London SW 12
    


From robin.sutherland at ukgateway.net  Sun Oct 21 06:39:27 2018
From: robin.sutherland at ukgateway.net (Robin Sutherland)
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2018 12:39:27 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Beatles, Abbey Road? B&W Scanner? When?
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Here?s the answer to your question about the scanner ident John Cox. 

This from Nick Gilbey, confirmed by Brian Summers.

There is quite a simply explanation to the picture anomaly of MCR28. The picture on the right is not of MCR28 but MCR22. MCR22 was destined for Bristol but kept by London. The West Region had to wait until MCR28 arrived before it got one of the new scanners. Brian sent me the notes about this. A bit of new sign writing undertaken

At some point in the production run of the scanners, the steps for roof access were moved across nearer the offside so the open rear door didn?t cover them.

Attached some fascinating memos about My World, also from Nick Gilbey. I had wondered about the hand held camera evident in shot on the YouTube videos [camera left of the balloons].

Also great to get details of the Bristol camera crew and Dave Gautier?s presence from London.

Cheers

Robin S



> On 19 Oct 2018, at 08:14, Alec Bray via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> ... unless, of course, the photo which purports to be MCR28 is in fact a different MCR. In which case, which one is it?
> BR Alec
> 
> sent from my mobile phone. Apologies for any strange autocorrections.
> 
> On Fri, 19 Oct 2018, 00:11 Mike Giles, <mibridge at mac.com <mailto:mibridge at mac.com>> wrote:
> I?ve heard from a Bristol cameraman, one Sandy Tristem, who was at Abbey Rd in 1967 for "All you need is Love". Derek Burrell Davis was the Producer, SS was Alan Hitchcock, and his assistant may have been Mike Smyth, whom some may remember.
> 
> MCR28 was the main unit but had an extra camera on a crane from London. The cameraman was Dave Gotteagh. Sandy got the Beatles autographs and sold them 20 yrs ago for ?2.500, but wishes he?d kept them as they would be worth nearer ?8k now. 
> 
> So any colour footage was either shot on film at the time, or has since been colourised. The WW1 material that?s been shown recently is quite amazing, and the bits I?ve seen and heard seemed nicely underplayed - the colour and dubbed sound are not intrusive.
> 
> Mike G
> 
> On 18 Oct 2018, at 15:37, Gary Critcher via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk <mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>> wrote:
> 
>> Lads,  here's the only other pic of the Boys on the morning of the 'Our World' programme, is this any help?
>> 
>>   all the best,
>> Gary C
>> 
>> 
>> On Thursday, 18 October 2018, 15:34, Alec Bray via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk <mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> On 18/10/2018 11:08, John Cox via Tech1 wrote:
>>> He actually saw MCR28 at Abbey Road on that day.
>> 
>> Help!!
>> 
>> Unfortunately, the rear end of MCR28 (on the right, in photos available to me!) does not match up with the rear of the OB  unit shown in the photo of John Lennon on the day of "Our  World") (on the left)..
>> 
>>  <http://tech-ops.co.uk/next/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/Our_World_2_4.png>
>> 
>>  see page:  http://tech-ops.co.uk/next/our-world-all-you-need-is-love-2/ <http://tech-ops.co.uk/next/our-world-all-you-need-is-love-2/>
>> Any explanations anyone?
>> 
>> -- 
>> 
>> Best Regards
>> 
>> Alec
>> 
>> Alec Bray
>> 
>> alec.bray.2 at gmail.com <mailto:alec.bray.2 at gmail.com>
>> mob:    07789 561 346
>> home:   0118 981 7502
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From ian.hillson at gmail.com  Sun Oct 21 08:12:49 2018
From: ian.hillson at gmail.com (Ian H)
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2018 14:12:49 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] 'Flu jab
In-Reply-To: <e14b0400-5f00-e975-8cbb-e176c89b88cd@btinternet.com>
References: <e14b0400-5f00-e975-8cbb-e176c89b88cd@btinternet.com>
Message-ID: <CAO37+kZWioWFcDmpBKbjMcoLS=Upufd4RpQb7h=UMaSWK0pJZQ@mail.gmail.com>

No adverse effects from the flu jab, apart from the usual arm after-ache,
but nurse is trying to persuade me to have the shingles jab.

I

On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 9:39 PM dave.mdv via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
wrote:

> Has anyone else reacted badly to this year's 'flu jab? The medics always
> insist that it is a passive vaccine and will not give you 'flu symptoms.
> However, last year my brother-in-law was very ill for a couple of weeks
> and a friend of my wife was also afflicted. This year it is a new
> 'advanced' vaccine being rolled out universally. I don't normally react
> to the jab but this year I have had a sore throat followed by a runny
> nose and a very tickly cough for over a week, resulting in my ribs being
> so painful that I dread the next cough! Any other sufferers? Cheers, Dave
>
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From ohbytheway.tv at gmail.com  Sun Oct 21 08:52:10 2018
From: ohbytheway.tv at gmail.com (David Denness)
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2018 14:52:10 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] 'Flu jab
In-Reply-To: <CAO37+kZWioWFcDmpBKbjMcoLS=Upufd4RpQb7h=UMaSWK0pJZQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e14b0400-5f00-e975-8cbb-e176c89b88cd@btinternet.com>
	<CAO37+kZWioWFcDmpBKbjMcoLS=Upufd4RpQb7h=UMaSWK0pJZQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <002401d46945$44a8a570$cdf9f050$@gmail.com>

I had flu 25 years ago, and I don?t mean a bad cold which stopped me working for more than a week. I then promised myself I was going to do all I could  to avoid getting it again. The following year I paid for a flu jab and did so every year up until 9 years ago when I started to get it for free. Glad to say never any adverse reaction or flu symptoms in all those years. Also no reaction to shingles or pneumonia vaccines either. One very satisfied NHS customer

 

Dave D

 

From: Tech1 <tech1-bounces at tech-ops.co.uk> On Behalf Of Ian H via Tech1
Sent: 21 October 2018 14:13
To: dave.mdv <dave.mdv at btinternet.com>
Cc: Tech-OpsMailing List <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [Tech1] 'Flu jab

 

No adverse effects from the flu jab, apart from the usual arm after-ache, but nurse is trying to persuade me to have the shingles jab.

 

I

 

On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 9:39 PM dave.mdv via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk <mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> > wrote:

Has anyone else reacted badly to this year's 'flu jab? The medics always 
insist that it is a passive vaccine and will not give you 'flu symptoms. 
However, last year my brother-in-law was very ill for a couple of weeks 
and a friend of my wife was also afflicted. This year it is a new 
'advanced' vaccine being rolled out universally. I don't normally react 
to the jab but this year I have had a sore throat followed by a runny 
nose and a very tickly cough for over a week, resulting in my ribs being 
so painful that I dread the next cough! Any other sufferers? Cheers, Dave

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From tonynuttall at me.com  Sun Oct 21 08:54:05 2018
From: tonynuttall at me.com (William Nuttall)
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2018 13:54:05 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [Tech1] To make Tech Ops People  Even Sader!!!!!
Message-ID: <df7e239a-66b1-4e83-a927-e6eb4f20a532@me.com>

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From johnhcox at gmail.com  Sun Oct 21 10:57:08 2018
From: johnhcox at gmail.com (John Cox)
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2018 16:57:08 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Beatles, Abbey Road? B&W Scanner? When?
Message-ID: <5bcca1d2.1c69fb81.4022e.96cc@mx.google.com>

Robin, thank you for answering my questions, I?m afraid none of your attachments open on any of my machines!

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From bernie833 at gmail.com  Sun Oct 21 11:18:38 2018
From: bernie833 at gmail.com (Bernard Newnham)
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2018 17:18:38 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] 'Flu jab + shingles
In-Reply-To: <CAO37+kZWioWFcDmpBKbjMcoLS=Upufd4RpQb7h=UMaSWK0pJZQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e14b0400-5f00-e975-8cbb-e176c89b88cd@btinternet.com>
	<CAO37+kZWioWFcDmpBKbjMcoLS=Upufd4RpQb7h=UMaSWK0pJZQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4f2eddbf-f39f-d7b0-7231-baa40dfd62e4@gmail.com>

I had shingles in 2002 - you really don't want to have shingles!

B


On 21/10/2018 14:12, Ian H via Tech1 wrote:
> No adverse effects from the flu jab, apart from the usual arm 
> after-ache, but nurse is trying to persuade me to have the?shingles jab.
>
> I
>
> On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 9:39 PM dave.mdv via Tech1 
> <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk <mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>> wrote:
>
>     Has anyone else reacted badly to this year's 'flu jab? The medics
>     always
>     insist that it is a passive vaccine and will not give you 'flu
>     symptoms.
>     However, last year my brother-in-law was very ill for a couple of
>     weeks
>     and a friend of my wife was also afflicted. This year it is a new
>     'advanced' vaccine being rolled out universally. I don't normally
>     react
>     to the jab but this year I have had a sore throat followed by a runny
>     nose and a very tickly cough for over a week, resulting in my ribs
>     being
>     so painful that I dread the next cough! Any other sufferers?
>     Cheers, Dave
>
>     -- 
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From bernie833 at gmail.com  Sun Oct 21 11:21:01 2018
From: bernie833 at gmail.com (Bernard Newnham)
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2018 17:21:01 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Beatles, Abbey Road? B&W Scanner? When?
In-Reply-To: <5bcca1d2.1c69fb81.4022e.96cc@mx.google.com>
References: <5bcca1d2.1c69fb81.4022e.96cc@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <19f7d931-31a2-9476-867b-fac9ede8fb20@ntlworld.com>

Mine neither - but if you change the file name from "Our World 1" to 
"Our World 1.jpg" it will work

B



On 21/10/2018 16:57, John Cox via Tech1 wrote:
>
> Robin, thank you for answering my questions, I?m afraid none of your 
> attachments open on any of my machines!
>
> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for 
> Windows 10
>
>
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From robin.sutherland at ukgateway.net  Sun Oct 21 12:15:02 2018
From: robin.sutherland at ukgateway.net (Robin Sutherland)
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2018 18:15:02 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Beatles, Abbey Road? B&W Scanner? When?
In-Reply-To: <19f7d931-31a2-9476-867b-fac9ede8fb20@ntlworld.com>
References: <5bcca1d2.1c69fb81.4022e.96cc@mx.google.com>
	<19f7d931-31a2-9476-867b-fac9ede8fb20@ntlworld.com>
Message-ID: <A4D1F273-E2C8-47C7-9177-71624BB294A5@ukgateway.net>

Whoops! Sorry about that and thanks Bernie.

Try these now.

Robin





> On 21 Oct 2018, at 17:21, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> Mine neither - but if you change the file name from "Our World 1" to "Our World 1.jpg" it will work
> 
> B
> 
> 
> 
> On 21/10/2018 16:57, John Cox via Tech1 wrote:
>> Robin, thank you for answering my questions, I?m afraid none of your attachments open on any of my machines!
>>  
>> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10
>>  
>> 
>> 
> 
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From chris at chriswoolf.co.uk  Sun Oct 21 12:20:40 2018
From: chris at chriswoolf.co.uk (Chris Woolf)
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2018 18:20:40 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] 'Flu jab + shingles
In-Reply-To: <4f2eddbf-f39f-d7b0-7231-baa40dfd62e4@gmail.com>
References: <e14b0400-5f00-e975-8cbb-e176c89b88cd@btinternet.com>
	<CAO37+kZWioWFcDmpBKbjMcoLS=Upufd4RpQb7h=UMaSWK0pJZQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<4f2eddbf-f39f-d7b0-7231-baa40dfd62e4@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <71d4c843-5b11-9794-a8ef-6ec3235e502a@chriswoolf.co.uk>

Indeed you don't.

In older people (like us) it tends to be a result of a lowered immune 
system, typically associated with stress. Thus it appears at the most 
inopportune moment when things are going pear-shaped in your life, or 
when you are having chemo for something really nasty. You don't normally 
~catch~ shingles - you already have the virus and it is simply waiting 
for a good opportunity to smack you.

You really, really don't want it, and if a vaccine drops the likelihood 
down by 50% or more, and lessens the severity, it really is a good idea.

Chris Woolf



On 21/10/2018 17:18, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 wrote:
> I had shingles in 2002 - you really don't want to have shingles!
>
> B
>
>
> On 21/10/2018 14:12, Ian H via Tech1 wrote:
>> No adverse effects from the flu jab, apart from the usual arm 
>> after-ache, but nurse is trying to persuade me to have the?shingles jab.
>>
>> I
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 9:39 PM dave.mdv via Tech1 
>> <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk <mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>> wrote:
>>
>>     Has anyone else reacted badly to this year's 'flu jab? The medics
>>     always
>>     insist that it is a passive vaccine and will not give you 'flu
>>     symptoms.
>>     However, last year my brother-in-law was very ill for a couple of
>>     weeks
>>     and a friend of my wife was also afflicted. This year it is a new
>>     'advanced' vaccine being rolled out universally. I don't normally
>>     react
>>     to the jab but this year I have had a sore throat followed by a
>>     runny
>>     nose and a very tickly cough for over a week, resulting in my
>>     ribs being
>>     so painful that I dread the next cough! Any other sufferers?
>>     Cheers, Dave
>>
>>     -- 
>>     Tech1 mailing list
>>     Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk <mailto:Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
>>     http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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From geoffreyhawkes at btinternet.com  Sun Oct 21 13:36:19 2018
From: geoffreyhawkes at btinternet.com (Geoff Hawkes)
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2018 19:36:19 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] 'Flu jab, shingles and eternal youth
Message-ID: <012301d4696c$f5adf5b0$e109e110$@btinternet.com>

No-one has yet mentioned the association of shingles with chicken pox, though probably we?re all aware of it. Both are caused by the same virus and according to the NHS website, if you?ve had chicken pox in childhood, the virus remains dormant and in later life can produce shingles. It says you can?t catch shingles from someone with chicken pox but you can catch chicken pox from someone with shingles if you?ve never had it, though shingles itself can?t be directly transmitted from one person to another.

 

It feels odd Chris Woolf referring himself as an older person. I still picture him as the young man he was when I knew him as a trainee fifty years ago. The same with Graeme Wall and I have an image of him in his regulation school cap walking down the drive at the school we both attended in the early 1960?s, though I was in the sixth form and he was in the fourth or fifth. I expect the rest of you have the same feeling in hearing about people you?ve not seen for years and others may have same about us. That?s one way to eternal youth, I suppose?.

 

Geoff

 

From: Tech1 [mailto:tech1-bounces at tech-ops.co.uk] On Behalf Of Chris Woolf via Tech1
Sent: 21 October 2018 18:21
To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
Subject: Re: [Tech1] 'Flu jab + shingles

 

Indeed you don't.

In older people (like us) it tends to be a result of a lowered immune system, typically associated with stress. Thus it appears at the most inopportune moment when things are going pear-shaped in your life, or when you are having chemo for something really nasty. You don't normally ~catch~ shingles - you already have the virus and it is simply waiting for a good opportunity to smack you.

You really, really don't want it, and if a vaccine drops the likelihood down by 50% or more, and lessens the severity, it really is a good idea.

Chris Woolf

 

 

On 21/10/2018 17:18, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 wrote:

I had shingles in 2002 - you really don't want to have shingles!

B

On 21/10/2018 14:12, Ian H via Tech1 wrote:

No adverse effects from the flu jab, apart from the usual arm after-ache, but nurse is trying to persuade me to have the shingles jab.

 

I

 

On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 9:39 PM dave.mdv via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:

Has anyone else reacted badly to this year's 'flu jab? The medics always 
insist that it is a passive vaccine and will not give you 'flu symptoms. 
However, last year my brother-in-law was very ill for a couple of weeks 
and a friend of my wife was also afflicted. This year it is a new 
'advanced' vaccine being rolled out universally. I don't normally react 
to the jab but this year I have had a sore throat followed by a runny 
nose and a very tickly cough for over a week, resulting in my ribs being 
so painful that I dread the next cough! Any other sufferers? Cheers, Dave

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From mibridge at mac.com  Sun Oct 21 13:46:31 2018
From: mibridge at mac.com (Mike Giles)
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2018 19:46:31 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] 'Flu jab, shingles and eternal youth
In-Reply-To: <012301d4696c$f5adf5b0$e109e110$@btinternet.com>
References: <012301d4696c$f5adf5b0$e109e110$@btinternet.com>
Message-ID: <3564B84F-399A-4F58-9A3E-893915763EC6@mac.com>

In the course of finding out about the Abbey Road OB, I?ve been sent a picture of former Bristol staff on one of their disorganiseds, and of the five people who were in Bristol when I was there, I could only recognise one - the other one I knew was Geoff Vian, who seems not to have changed at all!

Mike G

> On 21 Oct 2018, at 19:36, Geoff Hawkes via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> No-one has yet mentioned the association of shingles with chicken pox, though probably we?re all aware of it. Both are caused by the same virus and according to the NHS website, if you?ve had chicken pox in childhood, the virus remains dormant and in later life can produce shingles. It says you can?t catch shingles from someone with chicken pox but you can catch chicken pox from someone with shingles if you?ve never had it, though shingles itself can?t be directly transmitted from one person to another.
>  
> It feels odd Chris Woolf referring himself as an older person. I still picture him as the young man he was when I knew him as a trainee fifty years ago. The same with Graeme Wall and I have an image of him in his regulation school cap walking down the drive at the school we both attended in the early 1960?s, though I was in the sixth form and he was in the fourth or fifth. I expect the rest of you have the same feeling in hearing about people you?ve not seen for years and others may have same about us. That?s one way to eternal youth, I suppose?.
>  
> Geoff
>  
> From: Tech1 [mailto:tech1-bounces at tech-ops.co.uk] On Behalf Of Chris Woolf via Tech1
> Sent: 21 October 2018 18:21
> To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
> Subject: Re: [Tech1] 'Flu jab + shingles
>  
> Indeed you don't.
> 
> In older people (like us) it tends to be a result of a lowered immune system, typically associated with stress. Thus it appears at the most inopportune moment when things are going pear-shaped in your life, or when you are having chemo for something really nasty. You don't normally ~catch~ shingles - you already have the virus and it is simply waiting for a good opportunity to smack you.
> 
> You really, really don't want it, and if a vaccine drops the likelihood down by 50% or more, and lessens the severity, it really is a good idea.
> 
> Chris Woolf
> 
>  
> 
>  
> On 21/10/2018 17:18, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 wrote:
> I had shingles in 2002 - you really don't want to have shingles!
> 
> B
> 
> On 21/10/2018 14:12, Ian H via Tech1 wrote:
> No adverse effects from the flu jab, apart from the usual arm after-ache, but nurse is trying to persuade me to have the shingles jab.
>  
> I
>  
> On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 9:39 PM dave.mdv via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> Has anyone else reacted badly to this year's 'flu jab? The medics always 
> insist that it is a passive vaccine and will not give you 'flu symptoms. 
> However, last year my brother-in-law was very ill for a couple of weeks 
> and a friend of my wife was also afflicted. This year it is a new 
> 'advanced' vaccine being rolled out universally. I don't normally react 
> to the jab but this year I have had a sore throat followed by a runny 
> nose and a very tickly cough for over a week, resulting in my ribs being 
> so painful that I dread the next cough! Any other sufferers? Cheers, Dave
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From mibridge at mac.com  Sun Oct 21 13:51:57 2018
From: mibridge at mac.com (Mike Giles)
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2018 19:51:57 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] 'Flu jab + shingles
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My wife would agree!  We?d both had the shingles jab a while before she got it and the nurse?s reaction was ?Well it doesn?t always work!? We?ve since heard of others who have succumbed despite having the jab, but one theory states that without the jab it would have been worse, if that?s possible. 

Mike G

> On 21 Oct 2018, at 17:18, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> I had shingles in 2002 - you really don't want to have shingles!
> 
> B
> 
> 
>> On 21/10/2018 14:12, Ian H via Tech1 wrote:
>> No adverse effects from the flu jab, apart from the usual arm after-ache, but nurse is trying to persuade me to have the shingles jab.
>> 
>> I
>> 
>>> On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 9:39 PM dave.mdv via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
>>> Has anyone else reacted badly to this year's 'flu jab? The medics always 
>>> insist that it is a passive vaccine and will not give you 'flu symptoms. 
>>> However, last year my brother-in-law was very ill for a couple of weeks 
>>> and a friend of my wife was also afflicted. This year it is a new 
>>> 'advanced' vaccine being rolled out universally. I don't normally react 
>>> to the jab but this year I have had a sore throat followed by a runny 
>>> nose and a very tickly cough for over a week, resulting in my ribs being 
>>> so painful that I dread the next cough! Any other sufferers? Cheers, Dave
>>> 
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From pat.heigham at btinternet.com  Sun Oct 21 13:54:56 2018
From: pat.heigham at btinternet.com (patheigham)
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2018 19:54:56 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Scary trips & Dr.Who
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That was indeed scary!!
I found SAS to be excellent ? I was in Stavanger with, either Graham Minassian or Andy Parkinson, can?t remember.
We spotted an SAS desk in the hotel lobby and discovered that we could lose all the kit the night before our flight home, just leaving us with our small overnight bags as hand baggage.
Easy peasy!
A later mail about icing up closing the door reminded me of a flight home from Leipzig via Lufthansa, a short time after the wall came down and direct flights to the former DDR were
possible. In November, snow on the ground: the captain came on and said: ?We have just had the aircraft de-iced, but they have closed the runway for snow clearing. So we will 
have to do it all over again!? He was not pleased!
Dave Plowman?s remark about the piece the customs want to inspect being at the bottom of the load, rings an echo.
Travelling to Switzerland for a 17 week shoot on a Children?s ATV programme (Skiboy) in a VW bus, I and the camera focus puller turned up at the French/Swiss border and presented
the carnet. It was late in the day and the night customs man was a young, probably inexperienced guy, who ran his eye down the equipment list ? spotted ?snake arms? (a cranked metal
piece to mount the cameraman?s seat on an Elemack dolly). ?You have livestock?? I wish to see!?
Of course, this was right at the bottom of the load, under several lengths of Elemack track, which Fred had carefully lashed down to avoid irritating rattles in transit.
After this, I advised all technicians to avoid listing microphone ?rifle? mikes with ?pistol? grips, and in the case of early Sennheiser in-line battery packs as the ?bomb?, since the customs
officers might not be totally conversant with the English language, but would certainly spot those key words!
Best
Pat


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From: Nick Ware via Tech1
Sent: 20 October 2018 10:05
To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
Subject: Re: [Tech1] Fw: Scary trips

I?ve got one for you: This was a story about a relatively unknown Ukranian figure skater who had unexpectedly won a Gold in Helsinki, and the Americans suddenly became very interested in her. We were sent on ahead of her to Kiev to profile her background and film her homecoming, but the following day she was whisked off to New York from Helsinki. That meant that for us the story dried up suddenly and we were told we would have to leave Kiev next day, and it could only be by Ukraine International Airlines (I think it was called Air Ukraine back then, sometime in the 80?s). We?d flown from Helsinki to Kiev with Lufthansa, and had expected to return home with them. Cameraman Graham Berry and I, plus the American AP (who?d never been outside the USA before), all said: ?Sorry, we?ll wait for our Lufthansa return flight, we don?t do third world airlines?, but the fixer said: ?Not possible, but don?t worry, it?s a brand new Boeing 737-400, chartered from a Spanish company, and our pilots are all trained by Aer Lingus.
Not totally convinced, and against our better judgement, we ?boarded the aircraft, and were seated in row 1, right by the foreward door. Apparently we were being given VIP treatment.That flight was to take us to Cologne, where we would connect with a regular Lufthansa flight to Heathrow. I later discovered that Air Ukraine were at the time not allowed into Heathrow because of their bad accident track-record!
The ?737 certainly looked brand spanking new. So the doors were closed, the engines ran up, and without any of the mandatory checks or procedures whatsoever, we taxied, then turned sharply onto the runway, the port engine almost touching the tarmac, and immediately the Captain opened up the throttles and started to roll. Then, at considerable speed, and about halfway down the runway, there was an almighty BANG and the door right next to us blew open, smashing hard against the fuselage by my left ear. The emergency escape shoot inflated, got ripped off by the wind-speed, and went farting away across the snow! How it didn?t get sucked into the port engine with catastrophic results, I?ll never know. If it had happened in flight I wouldn?t be here today. The pilot slammed on the brakes, and he and the co-pilot both came rushing back to see what the problem was, leaving no-one up front. Now stationary, we could feel the power of the engines still on half throttle, just, but only just, held by the brakes. A fierce slanging match ensued, during which the pilots and the steward clambered over us, struggling to grab the door and close it. Which they managed to do.
We rather assumed that we would return to the terminal so that checks could be carried out, and ideally switch us to another aircraft. No chance of that: it was the only one!?
But undeterred, the pilots took their seats, and from where we were, opened the throttles fully again, and we took off on what little bit of runway was left. All the time on the climb-out we wondered about the integrity of that door, and the mass of ice building up on the leading edges of the wings. The Sherman whimpered and near shat himself, and we just hoped for the best.
But somehow, we landed safely in Cologne. We?d missed our connecting flight, the last one that day. The only desk still open was Scandinavian Airlines. We told them what had just happened, and they very generously flew us first class to Gothenberg, put us up in a five star associate hotel, took care of the excess baggage (and Carnet), and then flew us to Heathrow the following morning - all free of charge.
I?ve related this story many times to airline pilots and the like, to their utter amazement and incredulity! We?d had a lucky escape.
Best regards,
Nick.



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From patheigham at amps.net  Sun Oct 21 14:21:16 2018
From: patheigham at amps.net (patheigham)
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2018 20:21:16 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] 'Flu jab + shingles
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No ill effects from the flu jab last week.
My Dad had shingles, and it was extremely painful.
I knew that it was a by-product of chickenpox, which I did have in the late ?50s at prep school (I was sent home, brilliant, as it was boarding and I hated it!)
I have had the shingles jab, in 2013 and the pneumonia one in 2014, so bring it on and see if it works!!
A story about measles as we seem to have an ailments thread going.
My dad (REME) was posted to Singapore after the war, and while we were in a quarter next to the main railway line to KL, my gang (friends) of other military offspring
decided to adopt a large pampas bush as a ?den? and HQ. It was excellent as the plant grew a large stem which produced a dome of branches, falling down to ground
and leaving a great space after pushing your way through the fronds.
One afternoon, my William Brown cohorts decided to have a camp fire and managed to set the whole thing alight.
All the Army mums turned out with a chain of water buckets to extinguish.
My mum was rather relieved that I wasn?t guilty as I was in bed with.....measles!
Regards
Pat


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From: Mike Giles via Tech1
Sent: 21 October 2018 19:53
To: Bernard Newnham; tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
Subject: Re: [Tech1] 'Flu jab + shingles

My wife would agree! ?We?d both had the shingles jab a while before she got it and the nurse?s reaction was ?Well it doesn?t always work!? We?ve since heard of others who have succumbed despite having the jab, but one theory states that without the jab it would have been worse, if that?s possible.?

Mike G

On 21 Oct 2018, at 17:18, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
I had shingles in 2002 - you really don't want to have shingles!

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From billjenkin67 at gmail.com  Sun Oct 21 14:50:13 2018
From: billjenkin67 at gmail.com (Bill Jenkin)
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2018 20:50:13 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] 'Flu jab . . . Eternal Youth'
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I do agree Geoff.   Those that you knew in  youth and haven't seen for 40
or more years you think of as eternally young. However those that you have
only got to know since you both became 'senior citizens' you can't ever
imagine being young.
Bill Jenkin

On Sun, 21 Oct 2018, 19:36 Geoff Hawkes via Tech1, <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
wrote:

> No-one has yet mentioned the association of shingles with chicken pox,
> though probably we?re all aware of it. Both are caused by the same virus
> and according to the NHS website, if you?ve had chicken pox in childhood,
> the virus remains dormant and in later life can produce shingles. It says
> you can?t catch shingles from someone with chicken pox but you can catch
> chicken pox from someone with shingles if you?ve never had it, though
> shingles itself can?t be directly transmitted from one person to another.
>
>
>
> It feels odd Chris Woolf referring himself as an older person. I still
> picture him as the young man he was when I knew him as a trainee fifty
> years ago. The same with Graeme Wall and I have an image of him in his
> regulation school cap walking down the drive at the school we both attended
> in the early 1960?s, though I was in the sixth form and he was in the
> fourth or fifth. I expect the rest of you have the same feeling in hearing
> about people you?ve not seen for years and others may have same about us.
> That?s one way to eternal youth, I suppose?.
>
>
>
> *Geoff*
>
>
>
> *From:* Tech1 [mailto:tech1-bounces at tech-ops.co.uk] *On Behalf Of *Chris
> Woolf via Tech1
> *Sent:* 21 October 2018 18:21
> *To:* tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
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>
>
>
> Indeed you don't.
>
> In older people (like us) it tends to be a result of a lowered immune
> system, typically associated with stress. Thus it appears at the most
> inopportune moment when things are going pear-shaped in your life, or when
> you are having chemo for something really nasty. You don't normally ~catch~
> shingles - you already have the virus and it is simply waiting for a good
> opportunity to smack you.
>
> You really, really don't want it, and if a vaccine drops the likelihood
> down by 50% or more, and lessens the severity, it really is a good idea.
>
> Chris Woolf
>
>
>
>
>
> On 21/10/2018 17:18, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 wrote:
>
> I had shingles in 2002 - you really don't want to have shingles!
>
> B
>
> On 21/10/2018 14:12, Ian H via Tech1 wrote:
>
> No adverse effects from the flu jab, apart from the usual arm after-ache,
> but nurse is trying to persuade me to have the shingles jab.
>
>
>
> I
>
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 9:39 PM dave.mdv via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
> Has anyone else reacted badly to this year's 'flu jab? The medics always
> insist that it is a passive vaccine and will not give you 'flu symptoms.
> However, last year my brother-in-law was very ill for a couple of weeks
> and a friend of my wife was also afflicted. This year it is a new
> 'advanced' vaccine being rolled out universally. I don't normally react
> to the jab but this year I have had a sore throat followed by a runny
> nose and a very tickly cough for over a week, resulting in my ribs being
> so painful that I dread the next cough! Any other sufferers? Cheers, Dave
>
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From alawrance1 at me.com  Sun Oct 21 15:00:12 2018
From: alawrance1 at me.com (Alasdair Lawrance)
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2018 21:00:12 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Flu jab
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My GP explained to me that organising the annual 'flu jab is a massive operation world-wide, because the various country authorities have a large number of potential mutations to consider.  So every one has to make an informed guess as to the best formulas to manufacture, and then the manufacturers have to be commissioned, the virus made and approved, etc. etc., never mind the distribution throughout the land. It's quite an operation, I'm impressed it works as well as it does.

Alasdair Lawrance

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From patheigham at amps.net  Sun Oct 21 15:28:16 2018
From: patheigham at amps.net (patheigham)
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2018 21:28:16 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] 'Flu jab, shingles and eternal youth
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One of the main reasons that I do not attend the disorganized lunches, is that I do not recognize the folks in the photos.
Would it be possible for the photographer to enquire of the subjects ? their names and caption the pictures accordingly ? like a real newspaper researcher?
The other reason is that I do not sport the white whiskers that seem to be the dress code (ladies excepted!)

Although I?ve hit 75 ? no whiskers -yet!
Pat
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From: Mike Giles via Tech1
Sent: 21 October 2018 19:47
To: Geoff Hawkes; tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
Subject: Re: [Tech1] 'Flu jab, shingles and eternal youth

In the course of finding out about the Abbey Road OB, I?ve been sent a picture of former Bristol staff on one of their disorganiseds, and of the five people who were in Bristol when I was there, I could only recognise one - the other one I knew was Geoff Vian, who seems not to have changed at all!

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From mibridge at mac.com  Sun Oct 21 17:09:01 2018
From: mibridge at mac.com (Mike Giles)
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2018 23:09:01 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] 'Flu jab, shingles and eternal youth
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But if you grew them, I bet they?d be white!

Mike G

> On 21 Oct 2018, at 21:28, patheigham <patheigham at amps.net> wrote:
> 
> One of the main reasons that I do not attend the disorganized lunches, is that I do not recognize the folks in the photos.
> Would it be possible for the photographer to enquire of the subjects ? their names and caption the pictures accordingly ? like a real newspaper researcher?
> The other reason is that I do not sport the white whiskers that seem to be the dress code (ladies excepted!)
>  
> Although I?ve hit 75 ? no whiskers -yet!
> Pat
> TVC Tech Ops 1961-68
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>  
> In the course of finding out about the Abbey Road OB, I?ve been sent a picture of former Bristol staff on one of their disorganiseds, and of the five people who were in Bristol when I was there, I could only recognise one - the other one I knew was Geoff Vian, who seems not to have changed at all!
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From waresound at msn.com  Mon Oct 22 03:13:52 2018
From: waresound at msn.com (Nick Ware)
Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2018 08:13:52 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] 'Flu jab, shingles and eternal youth
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I?m not surprised you don?t recognise anyone - you left Tech Ops fifty years ago! That?s half a century!! White whiskers are completely optional. Half the fun is walking up to white-whiskery old gents you vaguely recognise and saying: ?Didn?t you used to be (so-and-so)?? And then finding out what they?ve done since you last saw them 40+ years ago.
I?ve been quite fascinated lately, talking to humble looking little old men, then finding they?ve done amazing things in their lives.
Example: At a church where some years ago I installed a sound system, the churchwarden, who I?ve known for 25 years, now in his eighties and suffering advanced Parkinson?s, it turns out he designed the crucially important fuel (weight) distribution system that made it possible to keep Concorde in level flight as it burnt off fuel.
And: I walked into another church near here and found an oldish guy all on his own playing the organ. I chatted to him and suddenly realised it was Rick Wakeman!
And another: sitting with a CBS cameraman in the lobby of the Rome Hassler hotel, a very ordinary looking old chap overheard us talking and joined in. We chatted, his name was Gustav, and he asked what we did. So, naturally, I asked him what he did.
His reply: ?Oh nothing really, I?m the King of Sweden?!

OK, no Kings or pop stars at disorganised gatherings that I know of, but they can be fascinating nevertheless. Never underestimate white whiskery old men!
Cheers,
Nick.
Sent from my iPad

On 21 Oct 2018, at 21:28, patheigham via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk<mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>> wrote:

One of the main reasons that I do not attend the disorganized lunches, is that I do not recognize the folks in the photos.
Would it be possible for the photographer to enquire of the subjects ? their names and caption the pictures accordingly ? like a real newspaper researcher?
The other reason is that I do not sport the white whiskers that seem to be the dress code (ladies excepted!)

Although I?ve hit 75 ? no whiskers -yet!
Pat
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Sent: 21 October 2018 19:47
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Subject: Re: [Tech1] 'Flu jab, shingles and eternal youth

In the course of finding out about the Abbey Road OB, I?ve been sent a picture of former Bristol staff on one of their disorganiseds, and of the five people who were in Bristol when I was there, I could only recognise one - the other one I knew was Geoff Vian, who seems not to have changed at all!

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From peter.fox at tiscali.co.uk  Mon Oct 22 05:59:22 2018
From: peter.fox at tiscali.co.uk (Peter Fox)
Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2018 11:59:22 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Beatles Abbey Road MCR28
Message-ID: <D7A1E15B-586A-4C17-AA89-E1B3CAB10ED3@tiscali.co.uk>

Has anyone considered the possibility that the Lennon photo has been edited? I know its pre photoshop but scalpels and airbrushes (and time) were available! 
The vehicle looks a bit lopsided comparing it with Alec?s photos and there is a potential editing line from the bottom almost to the top.  Maybe Ringo was picking his nose and got the chop, along with a foot or two of CMR28?

Peter Fox


From gary_critcher at yahoo.com  Mon Oct 22 10:36:30 2018
From: gary_critcher at yahoo.com (Gary Critcher)
Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2018 15:36:30 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Tech1] microphones at Abbey Road.
References: <1713603409.21685098.1540222591004.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1713603409.21685098.1540222591004@mail.yahoo.com>

some of you might find this interesting;
??Abbey Road's Lester Smith talks to Sylvia Massy
  
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From dave.mdv at btinternet.com  Mon Oct 22 15:01:02 2018
From: dave.mdv at btinternet.com (dave.mdv)
Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2018 21:01:02 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Spuds
Message-ID: <550f5b02-50f0-3ebe-418f-f56de4421394@btinternet.com>

Many years ago we were on a cruise and had to share the evening meal 
table with the same people every night. Two of them were ladies married 
to potato farmers in Scotland and basically rubbished English potatoes. 
On a sports unit shoot in Eire the Irish AP invited her mother over from 
Galway to dine with us and we had a lovely meal in Dublin and the 
potatos were really nice. I have recently seen that that 'Rooster' 
potatos have won competitions in Eire so they must be OK. Luckily, Asda 
and Lidl stock them and so does Tesco. However, the other week I was 
shopping in Tesco and they had no Roosters so I bought their 'extra 
special Red potatoes'. They were awful! Lumpy mash and dark brown chips! 
So, beware, Roosters are the only way to go! Cheers, house-husband, Dave


From dave.mdv at btinternet.com  Mon Oct 22 15:31:54 2018
From: dave.mdv at btinternet.com (dave.mdv)
Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2018 21:31:54 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Subtitles
Message-ID: <2d20e544-bf2e-0f55-9167-b1a994e31596@btinternet.com>

I have just tried to watch a movie with Hebrew subtitles, how can any 
Westerner understand whats going on? Cheers, Dave


From dave.mdv at btinternet.com  Mon Oct 22 16:14:00 2018
From: dave.mdv at btinternet.com (dave.mdv)
Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2018 22:14:00 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] 'Flu jab, shingles and eternal youth
In-Reply-To: <VI1P192MB0271DCAF04687F3375543AE2A7F40@VI1P192MB0271.EURP192.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
References: <012301d4696c$f5adf5b0$e109e110$@btinternet.com>
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Quite right, Nick, my (nurse) wife often says that once you are in a 
hospital bed with just a name over it nobody knows what you actually 
achieved in your life and what sort of person you were, you are 'just 
another patient'. Cheers, Dave


From dave.mdv at btinternet.com  Mon Oct 22 17:52:37 2018
From: dave.mdv at btinternet.com (dave.mdv)
Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2018 23:52:37 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Subtitles
In-Reply-To: <001101d46a55$23dedec0$6b9c9c40$@thomas1@talktalk.net>
References: <2d20e544-bf2e-0f55-9167-b1a994e31596@btinternet.com>
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Quite right, Alex, but then I got to think (as you do after a few) what 
language did Adam and Eve speak, and then what was the very first 
written word? If they grew up in the Middle East it might have been 
Arabic or ......? When you look at the various scripts now available, 
Hebrew, Thai, Sanskrit, Georgian, Cyrillic, Arabic, and many more, why 
didn't people stick to English!  Just joking, but it is a puzzle as to 
why so many went so many different ways. Cheers, Dave


From alex.thomas1 at talktalk.net  Mon Oct 22 17:57:36 2018
From: alex.thomas1 at talktalk.net (Alex Thomas)
Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2018 23:57:36 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] FW:  Subtitles
Message-ID: <000501d46a5a$a00d3cd0$e027b670$@thomas1@talktalk.net>



-----Original Message-----
From: Alex Thomas [mailto:alex.thomas1 at talktalk.net] 
Sent: 22 October 2018 23:18
To: 'dave.mdv'
Subject: RE: [Tech1] Subtitles

I often use the subtitles to follow what is actually being said but in some
cases the subtitler is lagging behind the sound track which is annoying  on
a recorded programme.

Far worse is when the subtitler is ahead of the sound track by tens of
seconds. They might as well not bother.

-----Original Message-----
From: Tech1 [mailto:tech1-bounces at tech-ops.co.uk] On Behalf Of dave.mdv via
Tech1
Sent: 22 October 2018 21:32
To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
Subject: [Tech1] Subtitles

I have just tried to watch a movie with Hebrew subtitles, how can any 
Westerner understand whats going on? Cheers, Dave

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From dave.mdv at btinternet.com  Mon Oct 22 18:28:25 2018
From: dave.mdv at btinternet.com (dave.mdv)
Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2018 00:28:25 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Subtitles
In-Reply-To: <685D2DEC-E519-43F7-BB7C-A320CFC9A2A1@btinternet.com>
References: <2d20e544-bf2e-0f55-9167-b1a994e31596@btinternet.com>
	<001101d46a55$23dedec0$6b9c9c40$@thomas1@talktalk.net>
	<ddd211a8-dac6-f718-4119-f2660a49dcdd@btinternet.com>
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Message-ID: <c7f35914-ef5a-1ed9-64f0-5f648fce3145@btinternet.com>

Thanks, Geoff, I knew there would be an explanation in your 'Good Book'. 
Chers, Dave


From dave.mdv at btinternet.com  Mon Oct 22 19:09:18 2018
From: dave.mdv at btinternet.com (dave.mdv)
Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2018 01:09:18 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Abbey road
Message-ID: <d80c2d2f-7d56-2b70-8b90-9235c7023127@btinternet.com>

Fascinating interview, I'm glad they mentioned the 4038! Cheers, Dave


From peter.neill at icloud.com  Tue Oct 23 01:16:39 2018
From: peter.neill at icloud.com (Peter Neill)
Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2018 07:16:39 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] FW:  Subtitles
In-Reply-To: <"000501d46a5a$a00d3cd0$e027b670$@thomas1"@talktalk.net>
References: <"000501d46a5a$a00d3cd0$e027b670$@thomas1"@talktalk.net>
Message-ID: <98005270-63CB-4813-8D2F-584E7526ED24@icloud.com>

I have an ancient Humax Freeview box which I hang on to because it has many features that I like that are missing from more recent devices. 
However, it has an issue with subtitles on some programmes which it has recorded. It doesn?t seem to happen with the major channels, but on some of the more obscure ones it will spew out a whole scene?s worth in quick succession. They must be encoded in a different way to, say, BBC1. 

Sent from my iPhone. Apologies for typos and autocorruptions. 

> On 22 Oct 2018, at 23:57, Alex Thomas via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alex Thomas [mailto:alex.thomas1 at talktalk.net] 
> Sent: 22 October 2018 23:18
> To: 'dave.mdv'
> Subject: RE: [Tech1] Subtitles
> 
> I often use the subtitles to follow what is actually being said but in some
> cases the subtitler is lagging behind the sound track which is annoying  on
> a recorded programme.
> 
> Far worse is when the subtitler is ahead of the sound track by tens of
> seconds. They might as well not bother.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tech1 [mailto:tech1-bounces at tech-ops.co.uk] On Behalf Of dave.mdv via
> Tech1
> Sent: 22 October 2018 21:32
> To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
> Subject: [Tech1] Subtitles
> 
> I have just tried to watch a movie with Hebrew subtitles, how can any 
> Westerner understand whats going on? Cheers, Dave
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From rogerbunce at btinternet.com  Tue Oct 23 01:20:29 2018
From: rogerbunce at btinternet.com (ROGER BUNCE)
Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2018 06:20:29 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Tech1] Subtitles
In-Reply-To: <ddd211a8-dac6-f718-4119-f2660a49dcdd@btinternet.com>
References: <2d20e544-bf2e-0f55-9167-b1a994e31596@btinternet.com>
	<001101d46a55$23dedec0$6b9c9c40$@thomas1@talktalk.net>
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 Archeology has probably moved on since I were a lad, but, in them days, the earliest written language was reckoned to be Sumerian, a pre-Semetic language of southern Mesopotamia/Iraq, and the earliest script was Cuneiform (made by poking wedge-shaped sticks into clay - which wouldn't be an easy way of subtitling a film). The language is no longer spoken, but descendants of the people who spoke it still live in the Mesopotamian Marshes - despite the fact that SoDamn Insane exterminated 90% of them. Cuneiform was later used by the Babylonians and Assyrians, who spoke Semetic languages, and the Hittites, who were Indo-Europeans. Of course, there were lots of languages about long before anyone wrote them down.
luv, Rog.?
    On Monday, 22 October 2018, 23:53:03 BST, dave.mdv via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:  
 
 Quite right, Alex, but then I got to think (as you do after a few) what 
language did Adam and Eve speak, and then what was the very first 
written word? If they grew up in the Middle East it might have been 
Arabic or ......? When you look at the various scripts now available, 
Hebrew, Thai, Sanskrit, Georgian, Cyrillic, Arabic, and many more, why 
didn't people stick to English!? Just joking, but it is a puzzle as to 
why so many went so many different ways. Cheers, Dave

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From apts at apts.org.uk  Tue Oct 23 04:57:35 2018
From: apts at apts.org.uk (Alexandra Palace Television Society)
Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2018 10:57:35 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] mystery camera
In-Reply-To: <b7516eb0-886c-1e4b-4aa8-e2df9a8f0b8f@ntlworld.com>
References: <D7ED67C5.1B0F2%apts@apts.org.uk>
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Message-ID: <D7F4AEB6.1B150%apts@apts.org.uk>

It?s not a Super Emitron Bernie.  The camera head contains a standard
Emitron tube, but with what looks like improved head amplifier and other
electronics which were not present in the standard studio Emitron.

Cheers

Si

From:  Bernard Newnham <bernie833 at gmail.com>
Reply-To:  <bernard.newnham at ntlworld.com>
Date:  Wednesday, 17 October 2018 at 23:24
To:  Simon Vaughan <apts at apts.org.uk>, <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
Subject:  Re: [Tech1] mystery camera

    
 A Super Emitron?
 
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From pat.heigham at btinternet.com  Tue Oct 23 14:41:58 2018
From: pat.heigham at btinternet.com (patheigham)
Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2018 20:41:58 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Subtitling & hearing
Message-ID: <5BB6CF6501A120FA@rgout03.bt.lon5.cpcloud.co.uk> (added by
	postmaster@btinternet.com)

An old girlfriend of mine worked for subtitling for C4.
This was done manually against time code, but I believe that speech recognition is now used ?
Well, good luck!
I used to attend film screenings at Pinewood which were run in the premium theatre, with
superb sound reproduction, but if it was a USA film, I had difficulty with the dialogue track,
so used to rent the DVD or BluRay and watch it at home with the subtitles on.
OK I might need a hearing aid now, and it?s worrying that many of the Production Mixers
for whom I boom opped now have them (having worn cans for their professional life).

I personally have a 20db dip at 6KHz caused by target rifle shooting and led to tinnitus
which manifests as a permanent background hiss ? liveable with, but noticeable when
I?m tired and it?s quiet at night.

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From bernie833 at gmail.com  Thu Oct 25 15:36:05 2018
From: bernie833 at gmail.com (Bernard Newnham)
Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2018 21:36:05 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] signal to noise
Message-ID: <b11edf7f-34b6-d39f-0225-eccbfe4e3afd@gmail.com>

The internet stopped working the other day when I was in the middle of 
something. It doesn't happen much, butthese things happen.

I was walking downstairs to get a cup of coffee, and looked out of the 
window as I passed by. Across the road the Virgin cable box was open, 
and two Virgin chaps were sitting? in front of it. They were probably 
the culprits, so I crossed the road and said hello. One of them was 
holding a bunch of fat cables in his hand.
"You've cut me off", I said.
"Nowe haven't".
"Yes you have".
"All right, we admit it, we've cut you off" .

Amongst the cable bunch was one labelled with my house name. They 
explained that the signal to noise ratio was down on the main return 
feed to the distribution centre, and though it wasn't affecting 
customers at the moment, they were going around checking all the house 
feeds and sorting them out.? Their team had the job of checking all of 
north west Surrey, and replacing noisy bits. Noise from customers 
systems affected all of the system - thousands of customers with dodgy 
connections made for a lot of noise. They aimed for 35dB, and they 
weren't getting it. Of course, as it's digital, it could go quite a way 
without customers noticing.

As I was there, and lived right across the road,they asked to do mine 
there and then. We all went over to my house. They checked the outside 
box and said my particular problem was somewhere inside. Taking off 
their shoes they came inside. Out came fancy test gear, and various 
obscure bits of cable tv and broadband bits got replaced. Still a 
problem though. With all but the connection between the living room and 
the kitchen sorted, there was still bad stuff on their test machine.So 
the answerturned out to be - change the cable. Doesn't it always?? They 
came back and did that a couple of days later. They were very please 
with themselves - the local area they've been working on is 5dB better 
than it was.

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From nick at nickway.co.uk  Thu Oct 25 16:18:40 2018
From: nick at nickway.co.uk (Nick Way)
Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2018 22:18:40 +0100 (BST)
Subject: [Tech1] signal to noise
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From dave.mdv at btinternet.com  Thu Oct 25 17:21:50 2018
From: dave.mdv at btinternet.com (dave.mdv)
Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2018 23:21:50 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] signal to noise
In-Reply-To: <b11edf7f-34b6-d39f-0225-eccbfe4e3afd@gmail.com>
References: <b11edf7f-34b6-d39f-0225-eccbfe4e3afd@gmail.com>
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A result! Now don't do it again! Cheers, Dave


From dave at davesound.co.uk  Thu Oct 25 18:16:56 2018
From: dave at davesound.co.uk (Dave Plowman)
Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2018 00:16:56 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] signal to noise
Message-ID: <574cc03cdcdave@davesound.co.uk>

Came home one day and noticed an Openreach van at the end of the road.
I've got fibre to the cabinet, and copper to the house. Broadband not
working nor was the phone.

Dashed out and caught the BT types as they were leaving (probably at their
going home time -back to base with the van). And one of them came in and
tested the line. Then opened up the cabinet again and checked things, and
got it working, and came back to check. Took him about an half hour. And
he apologised - saying that cabinet was a nightmare, compared to most.

A relatively small thing like that restores your belief in basic human
decency. When so many seem out to rip you off.

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From waresound at msn.com  Fri Oct 26 04:03:54 2018
From: waresound at msn.com (Nick Ware)
Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2018 09:03:54 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] signal to noise
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I?m sure you?re wise enough to have checked their credentials before letting them in.
We had an incident where an Openreach van pulled up over the road from here and set up all the usual paraphernalia and signage around a manhole outside the Shell shop (now Little Waitrose). They were there till after the shop closed and staff had left, at which point they cut through a 1200 pair BT cable, and then with the alarm system to the police disabled, they broke in and burgled the shop!
We saw what was going on and called the police, and next morning a cop came to the door asking for a statement. He told me the bogus van had been spotted by the (Fairoaks) police helicopter, heading up the A3. They were caught and arrested in Wandsworth.
Cheers,
Nick.
Sent from my iPad

On 25 Oct 2018, at 21:36, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk<mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>> wrote:

The internet stopped working the other day when I was in the middle of something. It doesn't happen much, but these things happen.

I was walking downstairs to get a cup of coffee, and looked out of the window as I passed by. Across the road the Virgin cable box was open, and two Virgin chaps were sitting  in front of it. They were probably the culprits, so I crossed the road and said hello. One of them was holding a bunch of fat cables in his hand.
"You've cut me off", I said.
"No we haven't".
"Yes you have".
"All right, we admit it, we've cut you off" .

Amongst the cable bunch was one labelled with my house name. They explained that the signal to noise ratio was down on the main return feed to the distribution centre, and though it wasn't affecting customers at the moment, they were going around checking all the house feeds and sorting them out.  Their team had the job of checking all of north west Surrey, and replacing noisy bits. Noise from customers systems affected all of the system - thousands of customers with dodgy connections made for a lot of noise. They aimed for 35dB, and they weren't getting it. Of course, as it's digital, it could go quite a way without customers noticing.

As I was there, and lived right across the road, they asked to do mine there and then.  We all went over to my house. They checked the outside box and said my particular problem was somewhere inside. Taking off their shoes they came inside. Out came fancy test gear, and various obscure bits of cable tv and broadband bits got replaced. Still a problem though. With all but the connection between the living room and the kitchen sorted, there was still bad stuff on their test machine.So the answer turned out to be - change the cable.  Doesn't it always?  They came back and did that a couple of days later. They were very please with themselves - the local area they've been working on is 5dB better than it was.

B
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From bernie833 at gmail.com  Fri Oct 26 05:24:01 2018
From: bernie833 at gmail.com (Bernard Newnham)
Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2018 11:24:01 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] signal to noise
In-Reply-To: <VI1P192MB0271B88E112BE5788FD53685A7F00@VI1P192MB0271.EURP192.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
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I must admit to not formally checking their credentials, but the 
conversation we had- started by me - and the gear and badged clothing, 
led me to suspect that they were who they said they were. Nevertheless, 
I was with them most of the time as they crawled around my electronic 
gear shelving, and we talked about F connectors and isolators and very 
out of date Cabletel connections, and they replaced them all.

The Fairoaks police helicopter has long departed, which means that they 
no longer hover endlessly over the nearby Sheerwater estate in the 
middle of the night. They moved to Dunsfold after some nasty people came 
in and vandalised the helicopter in it's hangar, after beating up the 
one policeman there at the time. Then they burgled the jewellery shop in 
WestByfleet. I assume they were caught, because we knowthe story.

B


On 26/10/2018 10:03, Nick Ware via Tech1 wrote:
> I?m sure you?re wise enough to have checked their credentials before 
> letting them in.
> We had an incident where an Openreach van pulled up over the road from 
> here and set up all the usual paraphernalia and signage around a 
> manhole outside the Shell shop (now Little Waitrose). They were there 
> till after the shop closed and staff had left, at which point they cut 
> through a 1200 pair BT cable, and then with the alarm system to the 
> police disabled, they broke in and burgled the shop!
> We saw what was going on and called the police, and next morning a cop 
> came to the door asking for a statement. He told me the bogus van had 
> been spotted by the (Fairoaks) police helicopter, heading up the A3. 
> They were caught and arrested in Wandsworth.
> Cheers,
> Nick.
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On 25 Oct 2018, at 21:36, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 
> <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk <mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>> wrote:
>
>> The internet stopped working the other day when I was in the middle 
>> of something. It doesn't happen much, butthese things happen.
>>
>> I was walking downstairs to get a cup of coffee, and looked out of 
>> the window as I passed by. Across the road the Virgin cable box was 
>> open, and two Virgin chaps were sitting? in front of it. They were 
>> probably the culprits, so I crossed the road and said hello. One of 
>> them was holding a bunch of fat cables in his hand.
>> "You've cut me off", I said.
>> "Nowe haven't".
>> "Yes you have".
>> "All right, we admit it, we've cut you off" .
>>
>> Amongst the cable bunch was one labelled with my house name. They 
>> explained that the signal to noise ratio was down on the main return 
>> feed to the distribution centre, and though it wasn't affecting 
>> customers at the moment, they were going around checking all the 
>> house feeds and sorting them out.? Their team had the job of checking 
>> all of north west Surrey, and replacing noisy bits. Noise from 
>> customers systems affected all of the system - thousands of customers 
>> with dodgy connections made for a lot of noise. They aimed for 35dB, 
>> and they weren't getting it. Of course, as it's digital, it could go 
>> quite a way without customers noticing.
>>
>> As I was there, and lived right across the road,they asked to do mine 
>> there and then. We all went over to my house. They checked the 
>> outside box and said my particular problem was somewhere inside. 
>> Taking off their shoes they came inside. Out came fancy test gear, 
>> and various obscure bits of cable tv and broadband bits got replaced. 
>> Still a problem though. With all but the connection between the 
>> living room and the kitchen sorted, there was still bad stuff on 
>> their test machine.So the answerturned out to be - change the cable. 
>> Doesn't it always?? They came back and did that a couple of days 
>> later. They were very please with themselves - the local area they've 
>> been working on is 5dB better than it was.
>>
>> B
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From waresound at msn.com  Fri Oct 26 05:53:58 2018
From: waresound at msn.com (Nick Ware)
Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2018 10:53:58 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] signal to noise
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The Fairoaks police helicopter has long departed .............. after some nasty people came in and vandalised the helicopter in it's hangar, after beating up the one policeman there at the time

Indeed, I remember well. We often used to see it standing outside, ready to go at a moment?s notice. If I remember right, they shot the incredibly expensive windshield out to disable it while they were up to mischief.
The Shell incident was probably getting on for ten years ago.
I?m sure you are following the owners? plans to close Fairoaks altogether and build a mini town there. I get all my reliable news from long-time friend and ex-cameraman, Nigel Reynolds, who works in the Tower. But you knew that!
Cheers,
N.

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From mikej at bmanor.co.uk  Fri Oct 26 06:25:23 2018
From: mikej at bmanor.co.uk (Mike Jordan)
Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2018 12:25:23 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] signal to noise
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Boat Race Helicopter provided by Alan Mann at Fairoaks. Awaiting George Wagland to operate the camera (all equipment having been installed by me at Fairoaks).
Later moved to Southend with original Helitele.
It is amazing how much the Police ones can do nowadays (as seen on interminable police ?specials? on 5spike/5/4/BBC etc etc)

One only has to look at the state of street cabinets to realise why things fail.
Virgin ones around here are mostly open and flapping in the wind ? despite them all being upgraded recently to compete with fibre and more TV channels ? and BT ones still have a complete mass of crimped wires in older ones before Krone systems came along. 
The latest BT thing is the ?Siamese? cabinets where there is a smaller new one alongside connected by a piece of trunking to give expansion now that the Broadband cabinets are often remote and have to be then routed in/out of the original to pick up the phone line or in areas where exchanges are being closed/demolished/turned into flats or offices and everything is routed via another exchange a long way away needing new cable joins.

Mike



From: Bernard Newnham via Tech1 
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2018 11:24 AM
To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk 
Subject: Re: [Tech1] signal to noise

I must admit to not formally checking their credentials, but the conversation we had - started by me - and the gear and badged clothing, led me to suspect that they were who they said they were. Nevertheless, I was with them most of the time as they crawled around my electronic gear shelving, and we talked about F connectors and isolators and very out of date Cabletel connections, and they replaced them all.

The Fairoaks police helicopter has long departed, which means that they no longer hover endlessly over the nearby Sheerwater estate in the middle of the night. They moved to Dunsfold after some nasty people came in and vandalised the helicopter in it's hangar, after beating up the one policeman there at the time. Then they burgled the jewellery shop in West Byfleet. I assume they were caught, because we know the story.

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From dave at davesound.co.uk  Fri Oct 26 08:44:50 2018
From: dave at davesound.co.uk (Dave Plowman)
Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2018 14:44:50 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] signal to noise
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In article
<VI1P192MB0271B88E112BE5788FD53685A7F00 at VI1P192MB0271.EURP192.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>,
   Nick Ware via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> I?m sure you?re wise enough to have checked their credentials before
> letting them in.

I keep hearing this, but given how easy it is to produce such things these
days, how would Joe Bloggs know it was genuine?

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From pat.heigham at btinternet.com  Fri Oct 26 09:59:30 2018
From: pat.heigham at btinternet.com (patheigham)
Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2018 15:59:30 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] signal to noise
In-Reply-To: <574d0fb10cdave@davesound.co.uk>
References: <b11edf7f-34b6-d39f-0225-eccbfe4e3afd@gmail.com>
	<VI1P192MB0271B88E112BE5788FD53685A7F00@VI1P192MB0271.EURP192.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
	<574d0fb10cdave@davesound.co.uk>
Message-ID: <5B0550EE0DCCC211@rgout04.bt.lon5.cpcloud.co.uk> (added by
	postmaster@btinternet.com)

The Police advice to checking credentials is to take their names/staff number and phone
the company?s office (not to any number that they might give you, but
look it up) to find out if the service company is in fact working in your area.
This advice applies to meter readers etc. and is distributed via Neighbourhood
Watch bulletins which I receive by e-mail.
However, we can be too trusting.
Surprised that the Police eye-in-the-sky is relocated to Dunsfold, I would have
thought Redhill was a better site.

Pat



Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Dave Plowman via Tech1
Sent: 26 October 2018 14:54
To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
Subject: Re: [Tech1] signal to noise

In article
<VI1P192MB0271B88E112BE5788FD53685A7F00 at VI1P192MB0271.EURP192.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>,
   Nick Ware via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> I?m sure you?re wise enough to have checked their credentials before
> letting them in.

I keep hearing this, but given how easy it is to produce such things these
days, how would Joe Bloggs know it was genuine?

-- 
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    Dave Plowman     dave at davesound.co.uk     London SW 12
    

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From waresound at msn.com  Fri Oct 26 10:24:57 2018
From: waresound at msn.com (Nick Ware)
Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2018 15:24:57 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] signal to noise
In-Reply-To: <d43ca45e-e8c6-4fce-b2e4-c2499ebc8f36@BL2NAM02HT053.eop-nam02.prod.protection.outlook.com>
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The move to Dunsfold, which is soon to be a housing development, can?t have been their choice, given that the Fairoaks Hangar Cafe has a four star breakfast rating, and is a daily drop-in social meeting point for passing police vehicles!
But I suppose if they feel strongly about that, what would they need?
Ah yes, a helicopter!
Nick.
Sent from my iPad

On 26 Oct 2018, at 16:00, patheigham via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk<mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>> wrote:

The Police advice to checking credentials is to take their names/staff number and phone
the company?s office (not to any number that they might give you, but
look it up) to find out if the service company is in fact working in your area.
This advice applies to meter readers etc. and is distributed via Neighbourhood
Watch bulletins which I receive by e-mail.
However, we can be too trusting.
Surprised that the Police eye-in-the-sky is relocated to Dunsfold, I would have
thought Redhill was a better site.

Pat
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From geoffletch at gmail.com  Sat Oct 27 03:01:24 2018
From: geoffletch at gmail.com (Geoff Fletcher)
Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2018 09:01:24 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] signal to noise
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Sorry to read that two more airfields are going - Dunsfold and Fairoaks.
Flown in and out of both of them on trips with my  friend Biff Baldwin. We
must be the least airminded country in the world. So short sighted.
Geoff F

On Fri, 26 Oct 2018 at 16:25, Nick Ware via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
wrote:

>
> The move to Dunsfold, which is soon to be a housing development, can?t
> have been their choice, given that the Fairoaks Hangar Cafe has a four star
> breakfast rating, and is a daily drop-in social meeting point for passing
> police vehicles!
> But I suppose if they feel strongly about that, what would they need?
> Ah yes, a helicopter!
> Nick.
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On 26 Oct 2018, at 16:00, patheigham via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
> The Police advice to checking credentials is to take their names/staff
> number and phone
>
> the company?s office (not to any number that they might give you, but
>
> look it up) to find out if the service company is in fact working in your
> area.
>
> This advice applies to meter readers etc. and is distributed via
> Neighbourhood
>
> Watch bulletins which I receive by e-mail.
>
> However, we can be too trusting.
>
> Surprised that the Police eye-in-the-sky is relocated to Dunsfold, I would
> have
> thought Redhill was a better site.
>
>
>
> Pat
>
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From dave.mdv at btinternet.com  Sun Oct 28 16:31:05 2018
From: dave.mdv at btinternet.com (dave.mdv)
Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2018 21:31:05 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Things
Message-ID: <4e108cec-5599-210f-bf61-89bd12b11cbc@btinternet.com>

So, (continuing the annoying, but topical start to a sentence!) which 
Good Samaritan in the BT Sports studio recognised Glen Hoddle's heart 
attack and saved his life? Well done! I remember Martin Broadfoot 
(territorial soldier of this parish) giving CPR to Glyn, a nice security 
man, in his caravan outside St. Pauls before Di's wedding. Secondly, 
with the most (possibly) important race of the F1 season why did Ch.4 
make me avoid all news bulletins until 2300 to see the bl**dy 
highlights? Thirdly, when is 'banter' from a boss to his staff, which 
makes them feel threatened, OK? Did you see how 'Sir' spoke to the 
politicians at his interview in the Commons select commitee? They must 
have been intimidated too! Cheers, Dave


From paul at pgtmedia.co.uk  Sun Oct 28 16:37:08 2018
From: paul at pgtmedia.co.uk (Paul Thackray)
Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2018 21:37:08 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Things
In-Reply-To: <4e108cec-5599-210f-bf61-89bd12b11cbc@btinternet.com>
Message-ID: <b5tgjss4lgrshagjhrnp98h5.1540762628296@pgtmedia.co.uk>

The answer to the BT question is the Gram Op (Simon Daniels) The Sun is now saying this (which is true) but is also reporting he was flown to hospital, which is not true as I saw him in to the back of an ambulance! 

Paul Thackray

PGT Media Consulting Ltd.

07802 243979

Mail;?paul at pgtmedia.co.uk

Web;?http://www.pgtmedia.co.uk

Linkedin;???http://uk.linkedin.com/pub/paul-thackray/19/379/746

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? Original Message ?
From: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
Sent: 28 October 2018 21:31
To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
Reply to: dave.mdv at btinternet.com
Subject: [Tech1] Things

So, (continuing the annoying, but topical start to a sentence!) which 
Good Samaritan in the BT Sports studio recognised Glen Hoddle's heart 
attack and saved his life? Well done! I remember Martin Broadfoot 
(territorial soldier of this parish) giving CPR to Glyn, a nice security 
man, in his caravan outside St. Pauls before Di's wedding. Secondly, 
with the most (possibly) important race of the F1 season why did Ch.4 
make me avoid all news bulletins until 2300 to see the bl**dy 
highlights? Thirdly, when is 'banter' from a boss to his staff, which 
makes them feel threatened, OK? Did you see how 'Sir' spoke to the 
politicians at his interview in the Commons select commitee? They must 
have been intimidated too! Cheers, Dave

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From dave.mdv at btinternet.com  Sun Oct 28 17:09:36 2018
From: dave.mdv at btinternet.com (dave.mdv)
Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2018 22:09:36 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Things
In-Reply-To: <b5tgjss4lgrshagjhrnp98h5.1540762628296@pgtmedia.co.uk>
References: <b5tgjss4lgrshagjhrnp98h5.1540762628296@pgtmedia.co.uk>
Message-ID: <a76ec4ca-23c0-316c-2ccc-dd1aee10f3e0@btinternet.com>

Thanks, Paul, it just shows how some first aid knowledge really does 
come in useful when you least expect it! Well done Simon! Cheers, Dave.


From dave.mdv at btinternet.com  Sun Oct 28 17:21:21 2018
From: dave.mdv at btinternet.com (dave.mdv)
Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2018 22:21:21 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] ... and another thing!
Message-ID: <fcd07d52-3094-4378-6a86-fcd717e139dc@btinternet.com>

How many bl**dy clocks did you have to change last night? I counted at 
least 24 and I haven't even started on all the watches, central heating 
programmers, ovens and cars! I also have lots of radio controlled 
timepieces which sort themselves out plus the computers and various VCRs 
and PVRs. This must STOP! I agree with the EU on this one! Sod the dark 
for the schoolkids, the modern LED torches are like daylight, so let's 
stay the same all year, says I! Cheers, Dave (forever stirring!)


From dave.mdv at btinternet.com  Sun Oct 28 17:27:48 2018
From: dave.mdv at btinternet.com (dave.mdv)
Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2018 22:27:48 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] .... last thing tonight!
Message-ID: <6f2f2ee4-142a-a158-33e8-31325cb62dde@btinternet.com>

Yes, I've had a sip of my new favourite red wine. It is Lindeman's 
'Gentlemans Collection' Cab. Sauv. and is available in both Morrisons 
and Asda at the reduced price of ?7. If you like red, please try it, but 
don't buy it all up as I need more, and more, and ....... Cheers, hic, Dave.


From dave.mdv at btinternet.com  Sun Oct 28 17:43:24 2018
From: dave.mdv at btinternet.com (dave.mdv)
Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2018 22:43:24 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] I lied!
Message-ID: <3b08ea4c-92ff-3978-1868-3bd0a0703ef7@btinternet.com>

Does anyone know for certain which of the poppy petals should be 
uppermost? I assume it is the smaller one. I know that the green leaf 
should be at 11 o'clock when the Armistice was signed, but just check 
how many on the TV seem to have no idea about this! Cheers, Dave. 
(bed-time almost, but first, the bl**dy Grand Prix, or should it be, 
Pr**ks?)


From tonycrake at gmail.com  Sun Oct 28 18:57:41 2018
From: tonycrake at gmail.com (Tony Crake)
Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2018 23:57:41 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] ... and another thing!
In-Reply-To: <fcd07d52-3094-4378-6a86-fcd717e139dc@btinternet.com>
References: <fcd07d52-3094-4378-6a86-fcd717e139dc@btinternet.com>
Message-ID: <CAMf6fxVwTBucSdy254ysgtLZa5E_aEYB+Mg0Vrn=tf=cGHsWgA@mail.gmail.com>

Here Here !

On Sun, 28 Oct 2018 at 22:21, dave.mdv via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
wrote:

> How many bl**dy clocks did you have to change last night? I counted at
> least 24 and I haven't even started on all the watches, central heating
> programmers, ovens and cars! I also have lots of radio controlled
> timepieces which sort themselves out plus the computers and various VCRs
> and PVRs. This must STOP! I agree with the EU on this one! Sod the dark
> for the schoolkids, the modern LED torches are like daylight, so let's
> stay the same all year, says I! Cheers, Dave (forever stirring!)
>
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From tonycrake at gmail.com  Sun Oct 28 19:01:53 2018
From: tonycrake at gmail.com (Tony Crake)
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2018 00:01:53 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Things
In-Reply-To: <a76ec4ca-23c0-316c-2ccc-dd1aee10f3e0@btinternet.com>
References: <b5tgjss4lgrshagjhrnp98h5.1540762628296@pgtmedia.co.uk>
	<a76ec4ca-23c0-316c-2ccc-dd1aee10f3e0@btinternet.com>
Message-ID: <CAMf6fxVDp7YeKUkXdOS+sihDy3nUQEYgyLfqApc6k2EmSivT3w@mail.gmail.com>

Did not Glyn subsequently die despite Martin's best efforts ?  Or was that
some time later ?

On Sun, 28 Oct 2018 at 22:09, dave.mdv via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
wrote:

> Thanks, Paul, it just shows how some first aid knowledge really does
> come in useful when you least expect it! Well done Simon! Cheers, Dave.
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From mibridge at mac.com  Mon Oct 29 02:46:43 2018
From: mibridge at mac.com (Mike Giles)
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2018 07:46:43 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] ... and another thing!
In-Reply-To: <CAMf6fxVwTBucSdy254ysgtLZa5E_aEYB+Mg0Vrn=tf=cGHsWgA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <fcd07d52-3094-4378-6a86-fcd717e139dc@btinternet.com>
	<CAMf6fxVwTBucSdy254ysgtLZa5E_aEYB+Mg0Vrn=tf=cGHsWgA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <7A5FF9CC-0F1E-49C7-B32E-AFEA60B0F833@mac.com>

But how else are you going to fill your time on a late October Sunday when it gets dark early? (Irony intended.)

Mike G

> On 28 Oct 2018, at 23:57, Tony Crake via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> Here Here !  
> 
>> On Sun, 28 Oct 2018 at 22:21, dave.mdv via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
>> How many bl**dy clocks did you have to change last night? I counted at 
>> least 24 and I haven't even started on all the watches, central heating 
>> programmers, ovens and cars! I also have lots of radio controlled 
>> timepieces which sort themselves out plus the computers and various VCRs 
>> and PVRs. This must STOP! I agree with the EU on this one! Sod the dark 
>> for the schoolkids, the modern LED torches are like daylight, so let's 
>> stay the same all year, says I! Cheers, Dave (forever stirring!)
>> 
>> -- 
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From johnhcox at gmail.com  Mon Oct 29 04:57:01 2018
From: johnhcox at gmail.com (John Cox)
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2018 09:57:01 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] and another thing!
Message-ID: <5bd6d96c.1c69fb81.d5f88.6718@mx.google.com>

On Sunday I woke up at 0315hrs bst (not for that reason) and noticed my radio watch spinning FORWARD eleven hours to 0215hrs gmt.

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From mike.jdg.minchin at gmail.com  Mon Oct 29 17:14:56 2018
From: mike.jdg.minchin at gmail.com (Mike Minchin)
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2018 22:14:56 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] and another thing!
In-Reply-To: <5bd6d96c.1c69fb81.d5f88.6718@mx.google.com>
References: <5bd6d96c.1c69fb81.d5f88.6718@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <abc1ab47-c82f-e638-8ecb-ae887f93e9ca@gmail.com>

You can do that anytime you like!? Just reset your Radio Watch (clock, 
or whatever) to Paris or Berlin, and watch it wind forward to an hour 
later.? Then reset again to London time, and it will go 11 hours 
forward, just as you observed.

The last time I did the latter was during a flight from Toulouse to 
Heathrow last September.? It's by no means the only time I have done it.

Best Wishes,

Mike Minchin


On 29/10/2018 09:57, John Cox via Tech1 wrote:
>
> On Sunday I woke up at 0315hrs bst (not for that reason) and noticed 
> my radio watch spinning FORWARD eleven hours to 0215hrs gmt.
>
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From bernie833 at gmail.com  Wed Oct 31 05:33:23 2018
From: bernie833 at gmail.com (Bernard Newnham)
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2018 10:33:23 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Some history
Message-ID: <aefaa90e-6a93-219d-9214-efb483a9b062@gmail.com>

Roger Bunce found this on Facebook and has asked me to show it here.

http://www.tech-ops.co.uk/bern/LG_history.html

Slighty scary to think that probably the only people you see who are 
still alive are the Queen and Duke.

Was the lady gram op Denise Daveluy? I never met her, but people 
mentioned her name from time to time.

Ripping off video from these sort of places is a bit of a fiddle. I used 
OBS Studio to record the screen, then put it through Da Vinci Resolve - 
free editing, very upmarket - onto a 480x360 timeline, output as H264 
MP4. I tried to use H265, but it didn't want to play back the video.

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From barrybonner119 at btinternet.com  Wed Oct 31 05:44:55 2018
From: barrybonner119 at btinternet.com (Barry Bonner)
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2018 10:44:55 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Some history
In-Reply-To: <aefaa90e-6a93-219d-9214-efb483a9b062@gmail.com>
References: <aefaa90e-6a93-219d-9214-efb483a9b062@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5A1BC368-8AC7-4B72-9015-63699497D816@btinternet.com>

Hi Bernie,
	I don?t think it?s Denise on grams. Bear in mind it was quite common in ancient times that the vision mixer and the grams operator were interchangeable. Very strange!
Barry.



On 31 Oct 2018, at 10:33, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:

> Roger Bunce found this on Facebook and has asked me to show it here.   
> 
> http://www.tech-ops.co.uk/bern/LG_history.html
> 
> Slighty scary to think that probably the only people you see who are still alive are the Queen and Duke.
> 
> Was the lady gram op Denise Daveluy? I never met her, but people mentioned her name from time to time.
> 
> Ripping off video from these sort of places is a bit of a fiddle. I used OBS Studio to record the screen, then put it through Da Vinci Resolve - free editing, very upmarket - onto a 480x360 timeline, output as H264 MP4. I tried to use H265, but it didn't want to play back the video.
> 
> B 
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From pat.heigham at btinternet.com  Wed Oct 31 06:10:58 2018
From: pat.heigham at btinternet.com (patheigham)
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2018 11:10:58 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Some history
In-Reply-To: <5A1BC368-8AC7-4B72-9015-63699497D816@btinternet.com>
References: <aefaa90e-6a93-219d-9214-efb483a9b062@gmail.com>
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	postmaster@btinternet.com)

Fascinating ? but I also do not think it was Denise.
Possibly the Sound Supervisor could be Adrian Stocks (Yogi),
But unsure of when he was promoted to that position.

Pat

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Barry Bonner via Tech1
Sent: 31 October 2018 10:45
To: Bernard Newnham
Cc: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
Subject: Re: [Tech1] Some history

Hi Bernie,
	I don?t think it?s Denise on grams. Bear in mind it was quite common in ancient times that the vision mixer and the grams operator were interchangeable. Very strange!
Barry.


On 31 Oct 2018, at 10:33, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:


Roger Bunce found this on Facebook and has asked me to show it here.?? 

http://www.tech-ops.co.uk/bern/LG_history.html

Slighty scary to think that probably the only people you see who are still alive are the Queen and Duke.

Was the lady gram op Denise Daveluy? I never met her, but people mentioned her name from time to time.

Ripping off video from these sort of places is a bit of a fiddle. I used OBS Studio to record the screen, then put it through Da Vinci Resolve - free editing, very upmarket - onto a 480x360 timeline, output as H264 MP4. I tried to use H265, but it didn't want to play back the video.

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From hughsheppard at btinternet.com  Wed Oct 31 06:45:46 2018
From: hughsheppard at btinternet.com (Hugh Sheppard)
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2018 11:45:46 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Some history
In-Reply-To: <aefaa90e-6a93-219d-9214-efb483a9b062@gmail.com>
References: <aefaa90e-6a93-219d-9214-efb483a9b062@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4c69850c-e9c5-8110-74ac-964232e7cf5d@btinternet.com>

Wow! Some History!

I see from Genome that the date of the drama tx was 28 October 1953. 
That's early enough to beat me to Lime Grove by nearly 5 years. 
Staggering that TVC was already able to provide the Director of 
Television with an office. I don't think that was Denise on grams, but 
am sorry to admit I don't recognise anyone else apart from Ian Atkins 
and Barry Learoyd plus some of the artists.

Hugh


On 31-Oct-18 10:33 AM, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 wrote:
> Roger Bunce found this on Facebook and has asked me to show it here.
>
> http://www.tech-ops.co.uk/bern/LG_history.html
>
> Slighty scary to think that probably the only people you see who are 
> still alive are the Queen and Duke.
>
> Was the lady gram op Denise Daveluy? I never met her, but people 
> mentioned her name from time to time.
>
> Ripping off video from these sort of places is a bit of a fiddle. I 
> used OBS Studio to record the screen, then put it through Da Vinci 
> Resolve - free editing, very upmarket - onto a 480x360 timeline, 
> output as H264 MP4. I tried to use H265, but it didn't want to play 
> back the video.
>
> B
>
>

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From pat.heigham at btinternet.com  Wed Oct 31 06:55:36 2018
From: pat.heigham at btinternet.com (patheigham)
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2018 11:55:36 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Some history
In-Reply-To: <5A1BC368-8AC7-4B72-9015-63699497D816@btinternet.com>
References: <aefaa90e-6a93-219d-9214-efb483a9b062@gmail.com>
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On one occasion, entering LG E Sound Control, there was a  notice on the outside of the door:
?Beware ? tortoise loose!?
Denise had brought her pet to work and scrounged some planks off the scene  boys to
construct a corral on the floor!

Pat

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From: Barry Bonner via Tech1
Sent: 31 October 2018 10:45
To: Bernard Newnham
Cc: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
Subject: Re: [Tech1] Some history

Hi Bernie,
	I don?t think it?s Denise on grams. Bear in mind it was quite common in ancient times that the vision mixer and the grams operator were interchangeable. Very strange!
Barry.


On 31 Oct 2018, at 10:33, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:


Roger Bunce found this on Facebook and has asked me to show it here.?? 

http://www.tech-ops.co.uk/bern/LG_history.html

Slighty scary to think that probably the only people you see who are still alive are the Queen and Duke.

Was the lady gram op Denise Daveluy? I never met her, but people mentioned her name from time to time.

Ripping off video from these sort of places is a bit of a fiddle. I used OBS Studio to record the screen, then put it through Da Vinci Resolve - free editing, very upmarket - onto a 480x360 timeline, output as H264 MP4. I tried to use H265, but it didn't want to play back the video.

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From waresound at msn.com  Wed Oct 31 08:14:24 2018
From: waresound at msn.com (Nick Ware)
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2018 13:14:24 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Some history
In-Reply-To: <aefaa90e-6a93-219d-9214-efb483a9b062@gmail.com>
References: <aefaa90e-6a93-219d-9214-efb483a9b062@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <VI1P192MB027104FFEB695C2537187170A7CD0@VI1P192MB0271.EURP192.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>

I think that was almost certainly Denise. Can?t be 100% sure because she didn?t have her tortoise with her. (?In? joke)
Cheers,
Nick.
Sent from my iPad

On 31 Oct 2018, at 10:33, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk<mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>> wrote:

Roger Bunce found this on Facebook and has asked me to show it here.

http://www.tech-ops.co.uk/bern/LG_history.html

Slighty scary to think that probably the only people you see who are still alive are the Queen and Duke.

Was the lady gram op Denise Daveluy? I never met her, but people mentioned her name from time to time.

Ripping off video from these sort of places is a bit of a fiddle. I used OBS Studio to record the screen, then put it through Da Vinci Resolve - free editing, very upmarket - onto a 480x360 timeline, output as H264 MP4. I tried to use H265, but it didn't want to play back the video.

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From j at howell61.f9.co.uk  Wed Oct 31 08:27:15 2018
From: j at howell61.f9.co.uk (John Howell)
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2018 13:27:15 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Some history
In-Reply-To: <5AF328480F71941A@rgout05.bt.lon5.cpcloud.co.uk>
References: <aefaa90e-6a93-219d-9214-efb483a9b062@gmail.com>
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I agree, I don't think it's Denise, but the Sound Supervisor looks more 
like Dickie Chubb,

especially when he throws his hands up in frustration at 1 min into the 
clip!

And again I don't know when he was promoted to SS.

Hibou.



On 31/10/2018 11:10, patheigham via Tech1 wrote:
>
> Fascinating ? but I also do not think it was Denise.
>
> Possibly the Sound Supervisor could be Adrian Stocks (Yogi),
>
> But unsure of when he was promoted to that position.
>
> Pat
>
> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for 
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>
> *From: *Barry Bonner via Tech1 <mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
> *Sent: *31 October 2018 10:45
> *To: *Bernard Newnham <mailto:bernie833 at gmail.com>
> *Cc: *tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk <mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
> *Subject: *Re: [Tech1] Some history
>
> Hi Bernie,
>
> I don?t think it?s Denise on grams. Bear in mind it was quite common 
> in ancient times that the vision mixer and the grams operator were 
> interchangeable. Very strange!
>
> /Barry./
>
> On 31 Oct 2018, at 10:33, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 
> <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk <mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>> wrote:
>
>
>
>     Roger Bunce found this on Facebook and has asked me to show it here.
>
>     http://www.tech-ops.co.uk/bern/LG_history.html
>
>     Slighty scary to think that probably the only people you see who
>     are still alive are the Queen and Duke.
>
>     Was the lady gram op Denise Daveluy? I never met her, but people
>     mentioned her name from time to time.
>
>     Ripping off video from these sort of places is a bit of a fiddle.
>     I used OBS Studio to record the screen, then put it through Da
>     Vinci Resolve - free editing, very upmarket - onto a 480x360
>     timeline, output as H264 MP4. I tried to use H265, but it didn't
>     want to play back the video.
>
>     B
>
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From graeme.wall at icloud.com  Wed Oct 31 08:28:11 2018
From: graeme.wall at icloud.com (Graeme Wall)
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2018 13:28:11 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Some history
In-Reply-To: <5A1BC368-8AC7-4B72-9015-63699497D816@btinternet.com>
References: <aefaa90e-6a93-219d-9214-efb483a9b062@gmail.com>
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IIRC Shirley Coward used to be gram op before she became a VM

Sent from my iPhone

> On 31 Oct 2018, at 10:44, Barry Bonner via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> Hi Bernie,
> 	I don?t think it?s Denise on grams. Bear in mind it was quite common in ancient times that the vision mixer and the grams operator were interchangeable. Very strange!
> Barry.
> 
> 
> 
>> On 31 Oct 2018, at 10:33, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
>> 
>> Roger Bunce found this on Facebook and has asked me to show it here.   
>> 
>> http://www.tech-ops.co.uk/bern/LG_history.html
>> 
>> Slighty scary to think that probably the only people you see who are still alive are the Queen and Duke.
>> 
>> Was the lady gram op Denise Daveluy? I never met her, but people mentioned her name from time to time.
>> 
>> Ripping off video from these sort of places is a bit of a fiddle. I used OBS Studio to record the screen, then put it through Da Vinci Resolve - free editing, very upmarket - onto a 480x360 timeline, output as H264 MP4. I tried to use H265, but it didn't                             want to play back the video.
>> 
>> B 
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From barrybonner119 at btinternet.com  Wed Oct 31 08:29:54 2018
From: barrybonner119 at btinternet.com (Barry Bonner)
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2018 13:29:54 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Some history
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Yes John, 
	Denise was quite a bit shorter than me, the lady in the video is quite tall.
Barry.



On 31 Oct 2018, at 13:27, John Howell via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:

> I agree, I don't think it's Denise, but the Sound Supervisor looks more like Dickie Chubb,
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> especially when he throws his hands up in frustration at 1 min into the clip!
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> And again I don't know when he was promoted to SS.
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> Hibou.
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> On 31/10/2018 11:10, patheigham via Tech1 wrote:
>> Fascinating ? but I also do not think it was Denise.
>> Possibly the Sound Supervisor could be Adrian Stocks (Yogi),
>> But unsure of when he was promoted to that position.
>>  
>> Pat
>>  
>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
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>> From: Barry Bonner via Tech1
>> Sent: 31 October 2018 10:45
>> To: Bernard Newnham
>> Cc: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
>> Subject: Re: [Tech1] Some history
>>  
>> Hi Bernie,
>>               I don?t think it?s Denise on grams. Bear in mind it was quite common in ancient times that the vision mixer and the grams operator were interchangeable. Very strange!
>> Barry.
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>> On 31 Oct 2018, at 10:33, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
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>> 
>> Roger Bunce found this on Facebook and has asked me to show it here.   
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>> http://www.tech-ops.co.uk/bern/LG_history.html
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>> Slighty scary to think that probably the only people you see who are still alive are the Queen and Duke.
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>> Was the lady gram op Denise Daveluy? I never met her, but people mentioned her name from time to time.
>> 
>> Ripping off video from these sort of places is a bit of a fiddle. I used OBS Studio to record the screen, then put it through Da Vinci Resolve - free editing, very upmarket - onto a 480x360 timeline, output as H264 MP4. I tried to use H265, but it didn't want to play back the video.
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