From dave.mdv at btinternet.com  Thu Nov  1 16:53:57 2018
From: dave.mdv at btinternet.com (dave.mdv)
Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2018 21:53:57 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] VLC
Message-ID: <6e08e613-a431-9824-54fa-d28e813cf1b9@btinternet.com>

Has anyone else been having problems with the 3... series of vlc? It 
seems to me to be getting worse. V.3.0.4 just won't start and when it 
does it says 'oops. vlc has just crashed do you want to send a report to 
the development team?'. I have just uninstalled it and have gone back to 
v.2.2.6. Cheers, Dave


From bernie833 at gmail.com  Thu Nov  1 17:23:25 2018
From: bernie833 at gmail.com (Bernard Newnham)
Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2018 22:23:25 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] VLC
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References: <6e08e613-a431-9824-54fa-d28e813cf1b9@btinternet.com>
Message-ID: <4659afa2-1ae6-2c01-4285-ce4c166d40e2@ntlworld.com>

Working OK for me on Windows 10, latest updatesall round.

B



On 01/11/2018 21:53, dave.mdv via Tech1 wrote:
> Has anyone else been having problems with the 3... series of vlc? It 
> seems to me to be getting worse. V.3.0.4 just won't start and when it 
> does it says 'oops. vlc has just crashed do you want to send a report 
> to the development team?'. I have just uninstalled it and have gone 
> back to v.2.2.6. Cheers, Dave
>

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From tonys at tonyscott.org.uk  Thu Nov  1 17:30:41 2018
From: tonys at tonyscott.org.uk (Tony Scott)
Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2018 22:30:41 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] VLC
In-Reply-To: <4659afa2-1ae6-2c01-4285-ce4c166d40e2@ntlworld.com>
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Working OK for me, latest version, on Ubuntu 18.04.1.

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On Thu, 1 Nov 2018 at 22:23, Bernard Newnham via Tech1
<tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
>
> Working OK for me on Windows 10, latest updates all round.
>
> B
>
>
>
> On 01/11/2018 21:53, dave.mdv via Tech1 wrote:
>
> Has anyone else been having problems with the 3... series of vlc? It seems to me to be getting worse. V.3.0.4 just won't start and when it does it says 'oops. vlc has just crashed do you want to send a report to the development team?'. I have just uninstalled it and have gone back to v.2.2.6. Cheers, Dave
>
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From dave.mdv at btinternet.com  Thu Nov  1 17:48:09 2018
From: dave.mdv at btinternet.com (dave.mdv)
Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2018 22:48:09 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] VLC
In-Reply-To: <CAOw_4raGG2CNcdeh9M0MxN9eCxQ2YjrsfAj_NgchJMrrX-Hjww@mail.gmail.com>
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Thanks Tony, nice to see someone using Ubuntu, my favourite after W7 
(and so similar)! If only they would do drivers for my Canon Scanner 
.....Cheers, Dave


From dave.mdv at btinternet.com  Thu Nov  1 19:08:15 2018
From: dave.mdv at btinternet.com (dave.mdv)
Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2018 00:08:15 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Birthdays
Message-ID: <22c880d6-bd47-5ca6-79e5-4d558b71ba2f@btinternet.com>

Today, November 1st., All Saints Day, is my 80th. birthday. Rejoice! if 
I can do it, so can you! Cheers, hic, Dave


From mibridge at mac.com  Thu Nov  1 19:31:00 2018
From: mibridge at mac.com (Mike Giles)
Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2018 00:31:00 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Birthdays
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I am with you in spirit, Dave, if not quite in years - here?s to the next one with a zero!

Happy birthday ? 

Mike G

> On 2 Nov 2018, at 00:08, dave.mdv via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> Today, November 1st., All Saints Day, is my 80th. birthday. Rejoice! if I can do it, so can you! Cheers, hic, Dave
> 
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From graeme.wall at icloud.com  Fri Nov  2 03:21:17 2018
From: graeme.wall at icloud.com (Graeme Wall)
Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2018 08:21:17 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Birthdays
In-Reply-To: <7DAF29FD-88C4-4173-9F1D-6043726B38A9@mac.com>
References: <22c880d6-bd47-5ca6-79e5-4d558b71ba2f@btinternet.com>
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Happy birthday from a mere child! 69 and holding?

What I?m holding is another matter altogether!

Graeme Wall

> On 2 Nov 2018, at 00:31, Mike Giles via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> I am with you in spirit, Dave, if not quite in years - here?s to the next one with a zero!
> 
> Happy birthday ? 
> 
> Mike G
> 
>> On 2 Nov 2018, at 00:08, dave.mdv via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
>> 
>> Today, November 1st., All Saints Day, is my 80th. birthday. Rejoice! if I can do it, so can you! Cheers, hic, Dave
>> 
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From mikej at bmanor.co.uk  Fri Nov  2 03:27:04 2018
From: mikej at bmanor.co.uk (Mike Jordan)
Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2018 08:27:04 -0000
Subject: [Tech1] VLC
In-Reply-To: <6e08e613-a431-9824-54fa-d28e813cf1b9@btinternet.com>
References: <6e08e613-a431-9824-54fa-d28e813cf1b9@btinternet.com>
Message-ID: <365956D9E8484D90987B7966C484F1A9@Gigabyte>

V1.1.7 still working fine for me (onW7 of course - none of this nasty WX of 
course!)

Mike

-----Original Message----- 
From: dave.mdv via Tech1
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2018 9:53 PM
To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
Subject: [Tech1] VLC

Has anyone else been having problems with the 3... series of vlc? It
seems to me to be getting worse. V.3.0.4 just won't start and when it
does it says 'oops. vlc has just crashed do you want to send a report to
the development team?'. I have just uninstalled it and have gone back to
v.2.2.6. Cheers, Dave



From waresound at msn.com  Fri Nov  2 03:46:39 2018
From: waresound at msn.com (Nick Ware)
Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2018 08:46:39 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Birthdays
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Congrats and happy birthday, Dave. Keep the brain active, that seems to be the best thing to do.
Barry, my B-in-L, is 84 and still gives organ recitals, conducts choirs, and spends a fair amount of time in the USA guest-training choirs. He remembers everyone and everything, past and present.
And Francis Jackson is still playing the organ at 100, though he would be the first to admit, not as well as he used to.
Not that I?m suggesting you take up the organ!
Keep your random musings coming - always a good read.
Cheers,
Nick.

Sent from my iPad

On 2 Nov 2018, at 00:08, dave.mdv via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk<mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>> wrote:

Today, November 1st., All Saints Day, is my 80th. birthday. Rejoice! if I can do it, so can you! Cheers, hic, Dave

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From bernie833 at gmail.com  Fri Nov  2 04:23:07 2018
From: bernie833 at gmail.com (Bernard Newnham)
Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2018 09:23:07 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] VLC
In-Reply-To: <365956D9E8484D90987B7966C484F1A9@Gigabyte>
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So that's Mike and Dave still on W7, which is probably why VLC isn't 
working for Dave. Can anyone tell me why one would want to stay with and 
out of date - 2009 -? OS?

B


On 02/11/2018 08:27, Mike Jordan via Tech1 wrote:
> V1.1.7 still working fine for me (onW7 of course - none of this nasty 
> WX of course!)
>
> Mike
>
> -----Original Message----- From: dave.mdv via Tech1
> Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2018 9:53 PM
> To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
> Subject: [Tech1] VLC
>
> Has anyone else been having problems with the 3... series of vlc? It
> seems to me to be getting worse. V.3.0.4 just won't start and when it
> does it says 'oops. vlc has just crashed do you want to send a report to
> the development team?'. I have just uninstalled it and have gone back to
> v.2.2.6. Cheers, Dave
>
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From alan_machin at hotmail.com  Fri Nov  2 05:40:18 2018
From: alan_machin at hotmail.com (alan machin)
Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2018 10:40:18 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Some history
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I agree that the Sound Supervisor looks like Dickie Chubb, but it cannot have been him as he would only have been in his early 20s in 1953. His IMDb credits for Sound, admittedly only a snapshot, list programmes from 1965 to 1990 and I remember going to his leaving do (when he was typically late due to car trouble!) in the early 1990s when he would have been 60 at the most.
Brian White's Staff List dated 1 May 1962 shows that 'Chubb R.M.' was Sound Assistant (Booms) on Crew 4 at that time. Adrian Stocks, mentioned by Pat, was already a Sound Supervisor in 1962, but I doubt that he was in 1953. Perhaps Les Wilkins? Does anyone have a Staff List from the 1950s?
Alan.
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From: Tech1 <tech1-bounces at tech-ops.co.uk> on behalf of John Howell via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
Sent: 31 October 2018 13:27
To: techOps Forum
Subject: Re: [Tech1] Some history


I agree, I don't think it's Denise, but the Sound Supervisor looks more like Dickie Chubb,

especially when he throws his hands up in frustration at 1 min into the clip!

And again I don't know when he was promoted to SS.

Hibou.



On 31/10/2018 11:10, patheigham via Tech1 wrote:

Fascinating ? but I also do not think it was Denise.

Possibly the Sound Supervisor could be Adrian Stocks (Yogi),

But unsure of when he was promoted to that position.



Pat



Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10



From: Barry Bonner via Tech1<mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
Sent: 31 October 2018 10:45
To: Bernard Newnham<mailto:bernie833 at gmail.com>
Cc: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk<mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [Tech1] Some history



Hi Bernie,

              I don?t think it?s Denise on grams. Bear in mind it was quite common in ancient times that the vision mixer and the grams operator were interchangeable. Very strange!

Barry.





On 31 Oct 2018, at 10:33, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk<mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>> wrote:



Roger Bunce found this on Facebook and has asked me to show it here.

http://www.tech-ops.co.uk/bern/LG_history.html

Slighty scary to think that probably the only people you see who are still alive are the Queen and Duke.

Was the lady gram op Denise Daveluy? I never met her, but people mentioned her name from time to time.

Ripping off video from these sort of places is a bit of a fiddle. I used OBS Studio to record the screen, then put it through Da Vinci Resolve - free editing, very upmarket - onto a 480x360 timeline, output as H264 MP4. I tried to use H265, but it didn't want to play back the video.

B

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From dave at davesound.co.uk  Fri Nov  2 05:46:05 2018
From: dave at davesound.co.uk (Dave Plowman)
Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2018 10:46:05 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [Tech1] VLC
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In article <9f85cbd0-817a-04cd-7dad-a6ab3f205069 at ntlworld.com>,
   Bernard Newnham via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> So that's Mike and Dave still on W7, which is probably why VLC isn't 
> working for Dave. Can anyone tell me why one would want to stay with and 
> out of date - 2009 -  OS?

If it still does what you need, why change? Win7 is still being supported.

Perhaps if you do a lot of gaming etc, the latest hardware and software
might be worthwhile.

-- 
*Speak softly and carry a cellular phone *

    Dave Plowman     dave at davesound.co.uk     London SW 12
    


From bernie833 at gmail.com  Fri Nov  2 06:12:26 2018
From: bernie833 at gmail.com (Bernard Newnham)
Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2018 11:12:26 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] An article wot I didn't write
Message-ID: <25a58019-1624-539b-b988-924fbbd2742f@gmail.com>

During my ten years working for a minor university, I always promised 
myself that one day I'd write an article about it - maybe try to get it 
published in The Oldie.? Well, I don't need to, as Dominic Sandbrook has 
exactly what I wanted to say, only better, in the Daily Mail today -

/This is the story of a British industry that consistently deceives and 
disappoints its customers. It encourages them to run up thousands of 
pounds worth of debt to buy its products, which often turn out to have 
been wildly mis-sold.

The more this industry sells, the more it dilutes their quality. It 
treats its workers like drudges, loading them with paperwork and making 
it impossible for them to give their customers the care they need. Yet 
it pays its bosses eye-watering salaries, far in excess of their 
counterparts in similar industries.

If this industry were an independent business, the Government could be 
forgiven for shrugging its shoulders. But it is not. It is heavily 
subsidised by the British taxpayer, whose money is diverted into 
ever-grander buildings and ever more extravagant rewards for the bosses, 
even as its customers feel more and more cheated.

The industry in question, of course, is British higher education.

So when I read that three unnamed British universities, one in the 
North-West and two on the South Coast, are in danger of bankruptcy, I 
was not entirely sorry.

Of course, bankruptcy would be awful for the institutions' students and 
staff, the majority of whom are utterly blameless. But the plain fact is 
that something has gone desperately wrong with our universities. And 
instead of throwing good money after bad, the Government should seize 
this opportunity to end the era of reckless expansion, and have a long 
think about how they can best serve Britain's youngsters rather than 
betray them.

To put it bluntly, there are too many universities, too many degrees and 
too many students. In the late Eighties, when I was a teenager, fewer 
than 800,000 people a year ? 15 per cent of school-leavers ? went to 
university.

Today, some 49 per cent of school-leavers go into higher education 
before the age of 30. We now have 160 universities or further education 
colleges, employing 400,000 people and educating a staggering 2.3 
million people.

Ever since the Blair years ? it was New Labour that settled, arbitrarily 
it seems, on a target of getting 50 per cent of school-leavers into 
university ? politicians have cited these figures as signs of great 
progress. They never stop to ask if we should really be encouraging 
youngsters to spend three of their most vigorous years studying 'body 
contour fashion', 'tournament golf' or 'beauty promotion', all of which 
are current degrees.

Nor do they ask themselves if it is ethical to send graduates into the 
world burdened with average debts of ?50,000 each ? the highest rate in 
the Western world ? in exchange for a degree that is often barely worth 
the paper it is written on.

If you talk to almost any academic in Britain, they will tell you that 
something is desperately wrong. Almost without exception, they say that 
their classes are too crowded and there is increasingly limited 
opportunity for lectures and tutorials, while managers are putting them 
under pressure to dumb down because of the numbers of students admitted 
who cannot intellectually cope.
Almost without exception, they say that their classes are too crowded 
and there is increasingly limited opportunity for lectures and 
tutorials, while managers are putting them under pressure to dumb down 
because of the numbers of students admitted who cannot intellectually cope.

My own epiphany came more than 15 years ago, when I was teaching history 
at the University of Sheffield, a fine institution with bright and 
enthusiastic students.

It was a miserable autumn afternoon, and as the rain poured down, I was 
sitting in a hut teaching some 40 students about the causes of the Great 
Depression.

The student who was due to give the main presentation had not turned up. 
His friend explained that it had been 'pound a pint' night in the 
student union the night before, so I embarked on a mini-lecture instead.

And as I droned on, a thought hit me. Why are they all here? What are 
they getting out of it?

I can already hear the howls from university managers. According to 
their adverts, university gives students unique 'transferable skills'. 
Graduates, they claim, will earn a 'premium' of ?100,000 over their 
lifetime, thanks to a degree certificate.

The first of these points is, to be frank, a complete lie. A history 
degree gives you no skills that you would not get from a degree in 
plenty of other subjects. It certainly gives you little that you would 
not also get from A-level studies, training in all kinds of white-collar 
jobs, or just reading a book and being a reasonably intelligent adult.

As for degrees such as the University of Chichester's new course in 
'e-sports studies', which invites students to run up ?27,750 in fees for 
the privilege of playing video games such as FIFA and Counter-Strike, I 
am afraid this is out-and-out larceny.

Chichester's website claims this degree 'will enable you to forge a 
career in this vibrant and fast-growing industry'. I hate to sound 
cynical, but do they seriously expect anyone to believe this?
As for the supposed premium, this is largely illusory. In reality, 
thousands of graduates leave every year to find themselves manning the 
machines in a coffee bar or pestering people to change their electricity 
supplier.

Figures from the Office of National Statistics show that five years 
after leaving university, graduates in popular subjects such as English, 
agriculture, and psychology actually earn less than the national average.

If you have a passion for Emily Bronte and excellent A-level results, by 
all means do an English degree. But what if you don't? Why waste three 
years doing something you are only mildly interested in and have never 
shone at?

If they had an ounce of social responsibility, the universities would 
encourage less academic youngsters to get an apprenticeship instead, or 
to find a niche in the world of work.
But they don't. In reality, they welcome all comers with the beaming 
smile of a used-car salesman. No matter how ill-equipped you may be for 
university life, there is always an institution willing to take your money.

At the Universities of Bedfordshire, Leeds Trinity and London 
Metropolitan, you can stroll in with three Cs at A-level.? Indeed, such 
is their greed and desperation that weaker establishments will admit 
students with a handful of Ds. As a result, thousands of students, 
utterly unsuited for academic life, are packed into lecture halls like 
steerage passengers on the Titanic. They find their experience 
intimidating, overwhelming and deeply disappointing ? and all this at a 
cost of ?9,250 a year.

No wonder, then, so many give up. Nationwide dropout rates after the 
first year have soared for three years in a row. London Metropolitan 
lost a staggering 19.5 per cent of its students after the first year. 
Bolton lost 17 per cent; Middlesex 16 per cent.

It is no coincidence that the worst rates are at former polytechnics, 
which have conspicuously failed to close the gap on the old 
universities. Of the worst performing universities in the country, the 
majority are old polytechnics.

At Cambridge railway station, expensive adverts proclaim the city to be 
the 'home of Anglia Ruskin'.? They are not fooling anyone: the 
prestigious Times rankings place Anglia Ruskin 122nd in the country. By 
contrast, the other university in Cambridge is No. 1.

To make matters worse, our universities are simultaneously prostituting 
themselves to foreign students who sometimes can barely speak a word of 
English.

Ten years ago, the London School of Economics notoriously awarded the 
son of the late Colonel Gaddafi a doctorate, despite the fact that, 
according to his tutor, he was 'totally uninterested in economics, 
lacked the intellectual depth to study at that level, and showed no 
willingness to read, let alone do coursework'.

But this was not an aberration. This is now the norm. The LSE's only 
crime was to get caught.

A few years ago, I talked to a senior academic at a redbrick university 
who was just back from Kurdistan. His job, he told me, was to identify 
poor countries that had recently suffered wars or disasters and been 
given aid money by the UN or the EU. His mission was to get his hands on 
that money. If that meant giving Kurdish students doctorates on, say, 
William Shakespeare, even if they could barely write a sentence in 
English, then that was fine by him.

Where does this money end up?

It goes to people like Bath Spa's recent vice chancellor Christina 
Slade, paid ?429,000 last year on top of her ?250,000 salary, ?20,000 
housing allowance, ?20,000 benefits allowance and ?89,000 pension package.

Or her contemporary, the University of Bath's Dame Glynis Breakwell, who 
made ?450,000 a year, lived rent free in a ?1.6 million house, and yet 
was greedy enough to demand ?8,000 for 'laundry and housekeeping' 
expenses before having to leave this year.

To put these figures into context, the chief executive of Bath's local 
council earns ?150,000 a year, while the boss of the local NHS trust 
earns ?185,000 a year.
The truth is that for too long our society has been wasting time, money 
and talent in pursuit of an objective that every reasonable person 
admits is completely deluded.
Not every youngster has a first-class academic mind, and not every 
further education college is an Oxbridge of the future.

For far too long, politicians and university managers have been 
perpetuating a gigantic fraud and, in doing so, have betrayed 
generations of students. It is time it stopped.



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From alec.bray.2 at gmail.com  Fri Nov  2 06:33:59 2018
From: alec.bray.2 at gmail.com (Alec Bray)
Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2018 11:33:59 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Doctor Who - and politics
Message-ID: <088fdaac-5567-cf30-3ef7-dd0679402a22@gmail.com>

Hi all,

I'm sure that some of you will have already seen this - but if you 
haven't, you may find it interesting.

The question comes from a Instructor and Flight Controller at NASA.


*Doctor Who had a Rosa Parks episode. Has Doctor Who always been political?*


Robert Frost <https://www.quora.com/profile/Robert-Frost-1>

Robert Frost <https://www.quora.com/profile/Robert-Frost-1>, Instructor 
and Flight Controller at NASA
Answered Oct 22 
<https://www.quora.com/Doctor-Who-had-a-Rosa-Parks-episode-Has-Doctor-Who-always-been-political/answer/Robert-Frost-1>

Only in America would a depiction of a sixty-three year old event in 
which a woman demanded to be treated like a human being be perceived as 
/political/. Silly me, I thought we?d reached the point where we all 
agreed that people should be treated as equals. I didn?t know that was a 
bold political stance.

The purpose of science fiction is to speculate on how science could 
impact the human experience. It is a creative means to examine the human 
condition. Science fiction that occurs in the realm of space and alien 
worlds is used for allegory. It examines ideas that may be uncomfortable 
to discuss in their native context by giving them distance. We view 
aliens facing choices that parallel our own and that makes us assess our 
choices.

/Star Trek/ was well known for this. As a small child, I remember 
watching the episode ?Let That Be Your Last Battlefield?, in which two 
aliens had great racial animus towards each other but the only 
difference between them was that one was white on the left side of their 
face and black on the right side and the other was white on the right 
side and black on the left side. Kirk and crew found their bigotry 
astonishing and so did my young self. That story imprinted the idea that 
racial bigotry is stupid and ignorant onto my brain.

/Doctor Who/ is even more suited to this type of storytelling because 
the Doctor is very judgmental. The Doctor flies around the universe in 
the TARDIS disrupting the status quo, chastising authority, and setting 
wrongs right. Part of the original BBC charter for the show is that it 
was to be educational for children - a way to teach them history.

The second Doctor Who story, back in 1963, introduced the Daleks. The 
Daleks were a militaristic alien race obsessed with racial purity. They 
were based upon the Nazis. They were commentary. Now, I always thought 
that opposing Nazis was no longer political - something everyone agreed 
upon, but in August 2017, I learned that isn?t really true.

The following year, 1964, the story ?The Planet of Giants? provided a 
pro-environmentalism message. In 1967, in ?The Ice Warriors?, Doctor Who 
was ahead of its time - get it, ahead of its /time/ - in doing a story 
about anthropogenic climate change.

Doctor Who stories like ?The Savages? and ?The Power of Kroll? 
indirectly criticized Britain?s past colonial efforts.

During the time the Third Doctor, in 1972, the show had a story called 
?The Curse of Peladon? that paralleled the discussions happening in 
Britain about joining the European Union (which happened the following 
year).

There are many, many other examples. The show is all about questioning 
ideas. Fiction that questions ideas shouldn?t be described as political, 
it should be described as intelligent.


==========

There are many more answers here:

https://www.quora.com/Doctor-Who-had-a-Rosa-Parks-episode-Has-Doctor-Who-always-been-political


============


As a corollary to this, last week we had to look after grandsons Sam (8) 
and Harry (5). They had recorded the Rosa Parks episode - and watched it 
over and over and over again during the week - about 6 times if I recall 
correctly.? Each time there were questions, so there are now at least 
two children fully versed in the anti-segregation movement in America. 
"...There's Martin Luther King!..."

Hurrah for Doctor Who !! Hurrah for Doctor Who !!

Hurrah for Doctor Who !! Hurrah for Doctor Who !!


Hope that this is of interest,

-- 

Best Regards

Alec

Alec Bray

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From waresound at msn.com  Fri Nov  2 06:37:21 2018
From: waresound at msn.com (Nick Ware)
Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2018 11:37:21 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] VLC
In-Reply-To: <57509a2ee7dave@davesound.co.uk>
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	<365956D9E8484D90987B7966C484F1A9@Gigabyte>
	<9f85cbd0-817a-04cd-7dad-a6ab3f205069@ntlworld.com>,
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Rather than chuck it out, I recently fitted a 500GB SSD into my daughter?s cast-off and dreadfully slow Lenovo (Vista) laptop and installed an OEM version of Windows 7 Home (64bit), and now it goes like a rocket. Good for a few years yet.
VLC media player v3.0.4 runs perfectly and noticeably smoother than Windows Media Player.
Now all I have to do is find a use for the laptop!
Cheers,
Nick.
Sent from my iPad

On 2 Nov 2018, at 10:56, Dave Plowman via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk<mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>> wrote:

In article <9f85cbd0-817a-04cd-7dad-a6ab3f205069 at ntlworld.com<mailto:9f85cbd0-817a-04cd-7dad-a6ab3f205069 at ntlworld.com>>,
  Bernard Newnham via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk<mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>> wrote:
So that's Mike and Dave still on W7, which is probably why VLC isn't
working for Dave. Can anyone tell me why one would want to stay with and
out of date - 2009 -  OS?

If it still does what you need, why change? Win7 is still being supported.

Perhaps if you do a lot of gaming etc, the latest hardware and software
might be worthwhile.

--
*Speak softly and carry a cellular phone *

   Dave Plowman
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From alec.bray.2 at gmail.com  Fri Nov  2 06:53:00 2018
From: alec.bray.2 at gmail.com (Alec Bray)
Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2018 11:53:00 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] An article wot I didn't write
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Hi all,

Fantastic article ...

May I comment on one small part?


> /If you have a passion for Emily Bronte and excellent A-level results, 
> by all means do an English degree. But what if you don't? Why waste 
> three years doing something you are only mildly interested in and have 
> never shone at?/

I did Latin, French and German at 'A' level.? When it came to it, I just 
did not want to /"... waste three years doing something you are [NOT] 
interested in and have never shone at?..." /

I had set up the school film club, using an old 16 mm clockwork Bolex 
(and set up a Transport club), and belonged to the school's after school 
Photography, Chemistry and Electronics clubs - and I saw an advert for 
BBC Film Cameraman. I applied, answered all the technical questions in 
the interview, but my interviewer said "I think you would be better in 
Television".? I was sent down the corridor - had an interview - and 
became a BBC TO.

I really, really enjoyed my time as a TO -? absolutely no mistake about 
that - but one day on a camera, waiting, sitting on a rostrum during a 
"Softly Softly" stagger through, I thought "I want to be a teacher".? (I 
have thanked John Henshaw for part of that spark).

SO, off to C. F. Mott College of Education, Liverpool - and then 
enrolled as a B.Ed student at Liverpool University.. I GRABBED THAT 
OPPORTUNITY with both hands - and did Mathematics, Psychology? (and 
Education).? Then later an M.A.at Reading.


-- 

Best Regards

Alec

Alec Bray

alec.bray.2 at gmail.com
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From vernon.dyer at btinternet.com  Fri Nov  2 07:00:10 2018
From: vernon.dyer at btinternet.com (vernon.dyer)
Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2018 12:00:10 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] An article wot I didn't write
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Well not written, Bernard. Wasn't New Labour's motivation for 50% nothing more than getting the youth unemployment figures down??Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.-------- Original message --------From: Bernard Newnham via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> Date: 02/11/2018  11:12  (GMT+00:00) To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk Subject: [Tech1] An article wot I didn't write 
    During my ten years working for a
        minor university, I always promised myself that one day I'd
        write an article about
          it - maybe try to get it published in The Oldie.? Well, I don't need to, as Dominic Sandbrook has exactly what I wanted to say, only
                  better, in the Daily Mail today -
                  
                  This is
                      the story of a British industry that consistently
                      deceives and disappoints its customers. It
                      encourages them to run up thousands of pounds
                      worth of debt to buy its products, which often
                      turn out to have been wildly mis-sold.
                      
                      The more this industry sells, the more it dilutes
                      their quality. It treats its workers like drudges,
                      loading them with paperwork and making it
                      impossible for them to give their customers the
                      care they need. Yet it pays its bosses
                      eye-watering salaries, far in excess of their
                      counterparts in similar industries.
                      
                      If this industry were an independent business, the
                      Government could be forgiven for shrugging its
                      shoulders. But it is not. It is heavily subsidised
                      by the British taxpayer, whose money is diverted
                      into ever-grander buildings and ever more
                      extravagant rewards for the bosses, even as its
                      customers feel more and more cheated.
                      
                      The industry in question, of course, is British
                      higher education.
                      
                      So when I read that three unnamed British
                      universities, one in the North-West and two on the
                      South Coast, are in danger of bankruptcy, I was
                      not entirely sorry.
                      
                      Of course, bankruptcy would be awful for the
                      institutions' students and staff, the majority of
                      whom are utterly blameless. But the plain fact is
                      that something has gone desperately wrong with our
                      universities. And instead of throwing good money
                      after bad, the Government should seize this
                      opportunity to end the era of reckless expansion,
                      and have a long think about how they can best
                      serve Britain's youngsters rather than betray
                      them.
                      
                      To put it bluntly, there are too many
                      universities, too many degrees and too many
                      students. In the late Eighties, when I was a
                      teenager, fewer than 800,000 people a year ? 15
                      per cent of school-leavers ? went to university.
                      
                      Today, some 49 per cent of school-leavers go into
                      higher education before the age of 30. We now have
                      160 universities or further education colleges,
                      employing 400,000 people and educating a
                      staggering 2.3 million people.
                      
                      Ever since the Blair years ? it was New Labour
                      that settled, arbitrarily it seems, on a target of
                      getting 50 per cent of school-leavers into
                      university ? politicians have cited these figures
                      as signs of great progress. They never stop to ask
                      if we should really be encouraging youngsters to
                      spend three of their most vigorous years studying
                      'body contour fashion', 'tournament golf' or
                      'beauty promotion', all of which are current
                      degrees. 
                      
                      Nor do they ask themselves if it is ethical to
                      send graduates into the world burdened with
                      average debts of ?50,000 each ? the highest rate
                      in the Western world ? in exchange for a degree
                      that is often barely worth the paper it is written
                      on.
                      
                      If you talk to almost any academic in Britain,
                      they will tell you that something is desperately
                      wrong. Almost without exception, they say that
                      their classes are too crowded and there is
                      increasingly limited opportunity for lectures and
                      tutorials, while managers are putting them under
                      pressure to dumb down because of the numbers of
                      students admitted who cannot intellectually cope.
                      Almost without exception, they say that their
                      classes are too crowded and there is increasingly
                      limited opportunity for lectures and tutorials,
                      while managers are putting them under pressure to
                      dumb down because of the numbers of students
                      admitted who cannot intellectually cope.
                      
                      My own epiphany came more than 15 years ago, when
                      I was teaching history at the University of
                      Sheffield, a fine institution with bright and
                      enthusiastic students.
                      
                      It was a miserable autumn afternoon, and as the
                      rain poured down, I was sitting in a hut teaching
                      some 40 students about the causes of the Great
                      Depression.
                      
                      The student who was due to give the main
                      presentation had not turned up. His friend
                      explained that it had been 'pound a pint' night in
                      the student union the night before, so I embarked
                      on a mini-lecture instead.
                      
                      And as I droned on, a thought hit me. Why are they
                      all here? What are they getting out of it?
                      
                      I can already hear the howls from university
                      managers. According to their adverts, university
                      gives students unique 'transferable skills'.
                      Graduates, they claim, will earn a 'premium' of
                      ?100,000 over their lifetime, thanks to a degree
                      certificate. 
                      
                      The first of these points is, to be frank, a
                      complete lie. A history degree gives you no skills
                      that you would not get from a degree in plenty of
                      other subjects. It certainly gives you little that
                      you would not also get from A-level studies,
                      training in all kinds of white-collar jobs, or
                      just reading a book and being a reasonably
                      intelligent adult.
                      
                      As for degrees such as the University of
                      Chichester's new course in 'e-sports studies',
                      which invites students to run up ?27,750 in fees
                      for the privilege of playing video games such as
                      FIFA and Counter-Strike, I am afraid this is
                      out-and-out larceny.
                      
                      Chichester's website claims this degree 'will
                      enable you to forge a career in this vibrant and
                      fast-growing industry'. I hate to sound cynical,
                      but do they seriously expect anyone to believe
                      this?
                      As for the supposed premium, this is largely
                      illusory. In reality, thousands of graduates leave
                      every year to find themselves manning the machines
                      in a coffee bar or pestering people to change
                      their electricity supplier. 
                      
                      Figures from the Office of National Statistics
                      show that five years after leaving university,
                      graduates in popular subjects such as English,
                      agriculture, and psychology actually earn less
                      than the national average.
                      
                      If you have a passion for Emily Bronte and
                      excellent A-level results, by all means do an
                      English degree. But what if you don't? Why waste
                      three years doing something you are only mildly
                      interested in and have never shone at?
                      
                      If they had an ounce of social responsibility, the
                      universities would encourage less academic
                      youngsters to get an apprenticeship instead, or to
                      find a niche in the world of work.
                      But they don't. In reality, they welcome all
                      comers with the beaming smile of a used-car
                      salesman. No matter how ill-equipped you may be
                      for university life, there is always an
                      institution willing to take your money.
                      
                      At the Universities of Bedfordshire, Leeds Trinity
                      and London Metropolitan, you can stroll in with
                      three Cs at A-level.? Indeed, such is their greed
                      and desperation that weaker establishments will
                      admit students with a handful of Ds. As a result,
                      thousands of students, utterly unsuited for
                      academic life, are packed into lecture halls like
                      steerage passengers on the Titanic. They find
                      their experience intimidating, overwhelming and
                      deeply disappointing ? and all this at a cost of
                      ?9,250 a year.
                      
                      No wonder, then, so many give up. Nationwide
                      dropout rates after the first year have soared for
                      three years in a row. London Metropolitan lost a
                      staggering 19.5 per cent of its students after the
                      first year. Bolton lost 17 per cent; Middlesex 16
                      per cent.
                      
                      It is no coincidence that the worst rates are at
                      former polytechnics, which have conspicuously
                      failed to close the gap on the old universities.
                      Of the worst performing universities in the
                      country, the majority are old polytechnics.
                      
                      At Cambridge railway station, expensive adverts
                      proclaim the city to be the 'home of Anglia
                      Ruskin'.? They are not fooling anyone: the
                      prestigious Times rankings place Anglia Ruskin
                      122nd in the country. By contrast, the other
                      university in Cambridge is No. 1.
                      
                      To make matters worse, our universities are
                      simultaneously prostituting themselves to foreign
                      students who sometimes can barely speak a word of
                      English.
                      
                      Ten years ago, the London School of Economics
                      notoriously awarded the son of the late Colonel
                      Gaddafi a doctorate, despite the fact that,
                      according to his tutor, he was 'totally
                      uninterested in economics, lacked the intellectual
                      depth to study at that level, and showed no
                      willingness to read, let alone do coursework'.
                      
                      But this was not an aberration. This is now the
                      norm. The LSE's only crime was to get caught.
                      
                      A few years ago, I talked to a senior academic at
                      a redbrick university who was just back from
                      Kurdistan. His job, he told me, was to identify
                      poor countries that had recently suffered wars or
                      disasters and been given aid money by the UN or
                      the EU. His mission was to get his hands on that
                      money. If that meant giving Kurdish students
                      doctorates on, say, William Shakespeare, even if
                      they could barely write a sentence in English,
                      then that was fine by him.
                      
                      Where does this money end up?
                      
                      It goes to people like Bath Spa's recent vice
                      chancellor Christina Slade, paid ?429,000 last
                      year on top of her ?250,000 salary, ?20,000
                      housing allowance, ?20,000 benefits allowance and
                      ?89,000 pension package.
                      
                      Or her contemporary, the University of Bath's Dame
                      Glynis Breakwell, who made ?450,000 a year, lived
                      rent free in a ?1.6 million house, and yet was
                      greedy enough to demand ?8,000 for 'laundry and
                      housekeeping' expenses before having to leave this
                      year.
                      
                      To put these figures into context, the chief
                      executive of Bath's local council earns ?150,000 a
                      year, while the boss of the local NHS trust earns
                      ?185,000 a year.
                      The truth is that for too long our society has
                      been wasting time, money and talent in pursuit of
                      an objective that every reasonable person admits
                      is completely deluded. 
                      Not every youngster has a first-class academic
                      mind, and not every further education college is
                      an Oxbridge of the future.
                      
                      For far too long, politicians and university
                      managers have been perpetuating a gigantic fraud
                      and, in doing so, have betrayed generations of
                      students. It is time it stopped.
                      
                      
                      
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From: gary_critcher at yahoo.com (Gary Critcher)
Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2018 12:07:11 +0000 (UTC)
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hey lads,?I know i've asked before but this is a slightly different problem.Recently I was given nearly 100 slides that date from 1978 to 1980.They are all Agfa film and now suffer from a blue 'cast' across them. ?I'm wanting to use quite a lot of them in a forthcoming book but obviously need to correct them before I do.? Please find attached an original scan and an 'enhanced' version which is my, so far, feeble attempt at colour correction, I'm not entirely happy with the results.
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? Many thanks indeed!

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From bernie833 at gmail.com  Fri Nov  2 07:19:53 2018
From: bernie833 at gmail.com (Bernard Newnham)
Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2018 12:19:53 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] An article wot I didn't write
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Yes

On 02/11/2018 12:00, vernon.dyer via Tech1 wrote:
>
> Well not written, Bernard. Wasn't New Labour's motivation for 50% 
> nothing more than getting the youth unemployment figures down?
>
>
> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Bernard Newnham via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
> Date: 02/11/2018 11:12 (GMT+00:00)
> To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
> Subject: [Tech1] An article wot I didn't write
>
> During my ten years working for a minor university, I always promised 
> myself that one day I'd write an article about it - maybe try to get 
> it published in The Oldie.? Well, I don't need to, as Dominic 
> Sandbrook has exactly what I wanted to say, only better, in the Daily 
> Mail today -
>
> /This is the story of a British industry that consistently deceives 
> and disappoints its customers. It encourages them to run up thousands 
> of pounds worth of debt to buy its products, which often turn out to 
> have been wildly mis-sold.
>
> The more this industry sells, the more it dilutes their quality. It 
> treats its workers like drudges, loading them with paperwork and 
> making it impossible for them to give their customers the care they 
> need. Yet it pays its bosses eye-watering salaries, far in excess of 
> their counterparts in similar industries.
>
> If this industry were an independent business, the Government could be 
> forgiven for shrugging its shoulders. But it is not. It is heavily 
> subsidised by the British taxpayer, whose money is diverted into 
> ever-grander buildings and ever more extravagant rewards for the 
> bosses, even as its customers feel more and more cheated.
>
> The industry in question, of course, is British higher education.
>
> So when I read that three unnamed British universities, one in the 
> North-West and two on the South Coast, are in danger of bankruptcy, I 
> was not entirely sorry.
>
> Of course, bankruptcy would be awful for the institutions' students 
> and staff, the majority of whom are utterly blameless. But the plain 
> fact is that something has gone desperately wrong with our 
> universities. And instead of throwing good money after bad, the 
> Government should seize this opportunity to end the era of reckless 
> expansion, and have a long think about how they can best serve 
> Britain's youngsters rather than betray them.
>
> To put it bluntly, there are too many universities, too many degrees 
> and too many students. In the late Eighties, when I was a teenager, 
> fewer than 800,000 people a year ? 15 per cent of school-leavers ? 
> went to university.
>
> Today, some 49 per cent of school-leavers go into higher education 
> before the age of 30. We now have 160 universities or further 
> education colleges, employing 400,000 people and educating a 
> staggering 2.3 million people.
>
> Ever since the Blair years ? it was New Labour that settled, 
> arbitrarily it seems, on a target of getting 50 per cent of 
> school-leavers into university ? politicians have cited these figures 
> as signs of great progress. They never stop to ask if we should really 
> be encouraging youngsters to spend three of their most vigorous years 
> studying 'body contour fashion', 'tournament golf' or 'beauty 
> promotion', all of which are current degrees.
>
> Nor do they ask themselves if it is ethical to send graduates into the 
> world burdened with average debts of ?50,000 each ? the highest rate 
> in the Western world ? in exchange for a degree that is often barely 
> worth the paper it is written on.
>
> If you talk to almost any academic in Britain, they will tell you that 
> something is desperately wrong. Almost without exception, they say 
> that their classes are too crowded and there is increasingly limited 
> opportunity for lectures and tutorials, while managers are putting 
> them under pressure to dumb down because of the numbers of students 
> admitted who cannot intellectually cope.
> Almost without exception, they say that their classes are too crowded 
> and there is increasingly limited opportunity for lectures and 
> tutorials, while managers are putting them under pressure to dumb down 
> because of the numbers of students admitted who cannot intellectually 
> cope.
>
> My own epiphany came more than 15 years ago, when I was teaching 
> history at the University of Sheffield, a fine institution with bright 
> and enthusiastic students.
>
> It was a miserable autumn afternoon, and as the rain poured down, I 
> was sitting in a hut teaching some 40 students about the causes of the 
> Great Depression.
>
> The student who was due to give the main presentation had not turned 
> up. His friend explained that it had been 'pound a pint' night in the 
> student union the night before, so I embarked on a mini-lecture instead.
>
> And as I droned on, a thought hit me. Why are they all here? What are 
> they getting out of it?
>
> I can already hear the howls from university managers. According to 
> their adverts, university gives students unique 'transferable skills'. 
> Graduates, they claim, will earn a 'premium' of ?100,000 over their 
> lifetime, thanks to a degree certificate.
>
> The first of these points is, to be frank, a complete lie. A history 
> degree gives you no skills that you would not get from a degree in 
> plenty of other subjects. It certainly gives you little that you would 
> not also get from A-level studies, training in all kinds of 
> white-collar jobs, or just reading a book and being a reasonably 
> intelligent adult.
>
> As for degrees such as the University of Chichester's new course in 
> 'e-sports studies', which invites students to run up ?27,750 in fees 
> for the privilege of playing video games such as FIFA and 
> Counter-Strike, I am afraid this is out-and-out larceny.
>
> Chichester's website claims this degree 'will enable you to forge a 
> career in this vibrant and fast-growing industry'. I hate to sound 
> cynical, but do they seriously expect anyone to believe this?
> As for the supposed premium, this is largely illusory. In reality, 
> thousands of graduates leave every year to find themselves manning the 
> machines in a coffee bar or pestering people to change their 
> electricity supplier.
>
> Figures from the Office of National Statistics show that five years 
> after leaving university, graduates in popular subjects such as 
> English, agriculture, and psychology actually earn less than the 
> national average.
>
> If you have a passion for Emily Bronte and excellent A-level results, 
> by all means do an English degree. But what if you don't? Why waste 
> three years doing something you are only mildly interested in and have 
> never shone at?
>
> If they had an ounce of social responsibility, the universities would 
> encourage less academic youngsters to get an apprenticeship instead, 
> or to find a niche in the world of work.
> But they don't. In reality, they welcome all comers with the beaming 
> smile of a used-car salesman. No matter how ill-equipped you may be 
> for university life, there is always an institution willing to take 
> your money.
>
> At the Universities of Bedfordshire, Leeds Trinity and London 
> Metropolitan, you can stroll in with three Cs at A-level.? Indeed, 
> such is their greed and desperation that weaker establishments will 
> admit students with a handful of Ds. As a result, thousands of 
> students, utterly unsuited for academic life, are packed into lecture 
> halls like steerage passengers on the Titanic. They find their 
> experience intimidating, overwhelming and deeply disappointing ? and 
> all this at a cost of ?9,250 a year.
>
> No wonder, then, so many give up. Nationwide dropout rates after the 
> first year have soared for three years in a row. London Metropolitan 
> lost a staggering 19.5 per cent of its students after the first year. 
> Bolton lost 17 per cent; Middlesex 16 per cent.
>
> It is no coincidence that the worst rates are at former polytechnics, 
> which have conspicuously failed to close the gap on the old 
> universities. Of the worst performing universities in the country, the 
> majority are old polytechnics.
>
> At Cambridge railway station, expensive adverts proclaim the city to 
> be the 'home of Anglia Ruskin'.? They are not fooling anyone: the 
> prestigious Times rankings place Anglia Ruskin 122nd in the country. 
> By contrast, the other university in Cambridge is No. 1.
>
> To make matters worse, our universities are simultaneously 
> prostituting themselves to foreign students who sometimes can barely 
> speak a word of English.
>
> Ten years ago, the London School of Economics notoriously awarded the 
> son of the late Colonel Gaddafi a doctorate, despite the fact that, 
> according to his tutor, he was 'totally uninterested in economics, 
> lacked the intellectual depth to study at that level, and showed no 
> willingness to read, let alone do coursework'.
>
> But this was not an aberration. This is now the norm. The LSE's only 
> crime was to get caught.
>
> A few years ago, I talked to a senior academic at a redbrick 
> university who was just back from Kurdistan. His job, he told me, was 
> to identify poor countries that had recently suffered wars or 
> disasters and been given aid money by the UN or the EU. His mission 
> was to get his hands on that money. If that meant giving Kurdish 
> students doctorates on, say, William Shakespeare, even if they could 
> barely write a sentence in English, then that was fine by him.
>
> Where does this money end up?
>
> It goes to people like Bath Spa's recent vice chancellor Christina 
> Slade, paid ?429,000 last year on top of her ?250,000 salary, ?20,000 
> housing allowance, ?20,000 benefits allowance and ?89,000 pension package.
>
> Or her contemporary, the University of Bath's Dame Glynis Breakwell, 
> who made ?450,000 a year, lived rent free in a ?1.6 million house, and 
> yet was greedy enough to demand ?8,000 for 'laundry and housekeeping' 
> expenses before having to leave this year.
>
> To put these figures into context, the chief executive of Bath's local 
> council earns ?150,000 a year, while the boss of the local NHS trust 
> earns ?185,000 a year.
> The truth is that for too long our society has been wasting time, 
> money and talent in pursuit of an objective that every reasonable 
> person admits is completely deluded.
> Not every youngster has a first-class academic mind, and not every 
> further education college is an Oxbridge of the future.
>
> For far too long, politicians and university managers have been 
> perpetuating a gigantic fraud and, in doing so, have betrayed 
> generations of students. It is time it stopped.
>
>
>
> ///
>
>

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From bernie833 at gmail.com  Fri Nov  2 07:31:20 2018
From: bernie833 at gmail.com (Bernard Newnham)
Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2018 12:31:20 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] anyone give me some tips on Photoshop.
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From bernie833 at gmail.com  Fri Nov  2 16:39:56 2018
From: bernie833 at gmail.com (Bernard Newnham)
Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2018 21:39:56 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] anyone give me some tips on Photoshop.
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From j at howell61.f9.co.uk  Fri Nov  2 17:38:53 2018
From: j at howell61.f9.co.uk (John Howell)
Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2018 22:38:53 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] A Sound Question.
Message-ID: <b0dc1899-ff9f-5d65-9417-a2017192e211@howell61.f9.co.uk>

Hello Folks,

Can anyone identify this microphone please? (2 images attached) It is a 
moving coil cardioid,

6.5" long & 1.2" diameter at the top. I have searched the 'net and all 
the usual makers but

apart from other considerations none have the inclined slits in the head.

Thanks in advance,

John H.

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From peterjohncombes at gmail.com  Sat Nov  3 06:47:53 2018
From: peterjohncombes at gmail.com (Peter Combes)
Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2018 12:47:53 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] anyone give me some tips on Photoshop.
In-Reply-To: <32c8c978-2fde-610d-23ad-2c5accd7ccc3@gmail.com>
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Photoshop Elements has defaults such as "Auto Color Correction" which work
very well for the novitiates.

On Fri, 2 Nov 2018 at 22:40, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
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From dave.mdv at btinternet.com  Sat Nov  3 13:33:07 2018
From: dave.mdv at btinternet.com (dave.mdv)
Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2018 18:33:07 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Birthday presents
In-Reply-To: <5AF328480FC54B4D@rgout05.bt.lon5.cpcloud.co.uk>
References: <5AF328480FC54B4D@rgout05.bt.lon5.cpcloud.co.uk>
Message-ID: <18f67346-8f40-e388-8a2e-5b5e2a106fb6@btinternet.com>

Could this be the worst birthday present ever from a son to his father 
on his 80th.birthday, knowing that it is his Dad's favourite red? 
Answers on a postcard, please. Cheers, hic, Dave


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From dave.mdv at btinternet.com  Sat Nov  3 17:50:28 2018
From: dave.mdv at btinternet.com (dave.mdv)
Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2018 22:50:28 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Birthday presents
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Thanks Geoff! That's what we all need is a friend like you! Cheers, Dave 
(80 years + 2 days)


From bernie833 at gmail.com  Sat Nov  3 18:04:22 2018
From: bernie833 at gmail.com (Bernard Newnham)
Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2018 23:04:22 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Backing up - an article wot I did write
Message-ID: <cee2f601-0993-99dd-0c78-e88d431e3e94@gmail.com>

I've been on both sides of this conversation.......

/"You know about computers - my disc drive has sta//r//ted making a 
clicking sound, and the computer doesn't work."//
////
////"The disc is broken, it's probabl//y not fixable, ex//cept//maybe 
for a lot of money - maybe"//
////
////"But all my pi//ctures/videos/invoices are on there"//
////
////"Youhave backed them up, haven't you......?"/

If this - one side or the other - hasn't happened to you yet, it 
probably will.? Being mistaken for being a computer expert, is, of 
course, better than being the person with the terminal disc drive.

Hard drives don't last forever. Some last a long time, and one of mine 
has 53,000 hours on it- over 6 years - but eventually it will die. After 
my first disaster, probably over 20 years ago now - I started taking 
backups seriously.The first thing I did, having looked it up, was to put 
in two 60Gb mirrored drives as drive C:, called RAID1. Redundant Array 
of Independent Discs is a set of standards for using multiple discs to 
protect data. RAID1 is the most basic.Great idea, except unfortunately a 
few months later one of them had a problem, and immediately copied it to 
the other one. I could probably fix that now, but I couldn't then. Then 
burners became available and affordable, so I moved to making CD copies, 
then DVDs. I have a pile of them here, dating back to 2004.

Then the files - especially video, became too large, so I bought some 
more large discs - there are two on backup duties in this machine now. 
Of course, one ought to be putting backups in a secureremote location - 
under Wood Norton perhaps, but with that out of the question, I reasoned 
that if the house burns down I'll have enoughproblems.

I've been working that way for some years now. I've lost one drive in 
that time. It went into click mode and wasn't accessible, but the stuff 
I needed was backed up. I was having a clear out the other day, and 
plugged it back in, lying on it's side - and it worked. It's small by 
today's standards, but I went through it before running Eraser and 
junking it.

The downside of backing up this way is that you have to remember to do 
it. If I'm working on something important, I want to back up pretty 
often, sometimes several times in a day.

At this point lots of people use a cloud of some kind - my phone does it 
without asking, and is now complaining that I've used up the allocation 
I didn't know I had. I'm not a great lover of clouds. They, are of 
course, just other people's disc drives. Somewhere out there is a data 
centre, and in that data centre is a drive, much backed up, which has on 
it large numbers of my photos. Most of them were just rushes - six 
versions of a shot of which I wanted just one, and those pics one takes 
these days of a price tag or whatever. Useful for maybe a day. They're 
still out there, along with those of millions of other people's, wasting 
energy somewhere in the world.

Last year my elder son went off to SE Asia for a very late gap year, 
which may turn into forever. You can't beat renting a house for ?4.50 a 
week. He asked if there was a way to back stuff up for him here, and we 
tried using FTP to allow him to copy stuff onto one of my drives. It was 
clunky and didn't work too well.

So...... I've looked vaguely for years at devices called NAS. Network 
Attached Storage. They're effectively low powered computers which are 
purely designed to hold data on disc drives and give it back as 
required. Someone recommended those of a company called Synology, who've 
been selling these for a long time.? Eventually - last week - I bought 
one. It's a fairly basic model, a DS218J, with space for two drives.? I 
bought it two 2TB Western Digital Reds, designed for this purpose.

You put the drives in the machine, then on a local computer browser, you 
type "find.synology.com". And it does, and then spends a while setting 
everything up. Then you get a screen full of applications, some of which 
seem to have been superceded by others.? Hmm.

In some ways setting things up the way you want is really easy, and in 
some ways it isn't .

I want two things from the box. Real time backup of several folders on 
this machine (maybe others later), and limited access for myself and 
family from anywhere.? The latter was easy. Set up users, tell them how 
to access the machine, done. The former turned out to need third party 
software, which I was rather surprised at. As usual, everyone else has 
been there before you, and Google is full of advice. I downloaded 
FreeFileSync, set it up, and it's now working very well.

So now I'm a backup expert. Maybe.

You may have done this yearsago, or not. This has been my experienceso 
far - the machine is still copying stuff. If I change anything in the 
synced folders, it's mirrored on the NAS without me having toremember. 
Just what I wanted.

B


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From dave.mdv at btinternet.com  Sat Nov  3 18:46:59 2018
From: dave.mdv at btinternet.com (dave.mdv)
Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2018 23:46:59 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Backing up - an article wot I did write
In-Reply-To: <cee2f601-0993-99dd-0c78-e88d431e3e94@gmail.com>
References: <cee2f601-0993-99dd-0c78-e88d431e3e94@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e234c3ea-895d-dc14-3aa9-50e40740b419@btinternet.com>

Thanks for the tutorial Bernie! You have just explained why I and many 
others are still using out-of-date W7 etc.! (it's because it works and 
we don't have to think very hard about it!). Good luck with your 
'clouds' I don't trust anything that isn't in my PC! Cheers, Dave


From dave.mdv at btinternet.com  Sat Nov  3 19:07:57 2018
From: dave.mdv at btinternet.com (dave.mdv)
Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2018 00:07:57 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Magnets
Message-ID: <40e83f30-d0c2-ed2b-f4da-a807ec1b4b8c@btinternet.com>

I have just purchased a Neodymium magnet from Clas Olson to replace the 
one I lent to my daughter in Somerset. I took it to my usual Thursday 
BBC retirees 'put-the-world-to-rights' get-together and not one person 
round the table could separate the magnet from the 'keeper' plate! It is 
rated at 30 KG. force and is only 32 mm. diameter! Amazing! I use one to 
keep my back door open in hot weather and for picking any small screws 
off the carpet (I once dropped a load of watch screws onto a carpet and 
they are almost invisible to the naked eye!). If you buy one be careful, 
it will take your skin off! Cheers, Dave


From martin at theeccles.uk  Sat Nov  3 19:30:36 2018
From: martin at theeccles.uk (Martin Eccles)
Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2018 00:30:36 -0000
Subject: [Tech1] Magnets
In-Reply-To: <40e83f30-d0c2-ed2b-f4da-a807ec1b4b8c@btinternet.com>
References: <40e83f30-d0c2-ed2b-f4da-a807ec1b4b8c@btinternet.com>
Message-ID: <006101d473d5$9b6c47a0$d244d6e0$@theeccles.uk>

Hi Dave and chaps,

Very, very powerful and not so powerful magnets available from...

https://www.first4magnets.com/search/all-products#sort7

Martin.


-----Original Message-----
From: Tech1 <tech1-bounces at tech-ops.co.uk> On Behalf Of dave.mdv via Tech1
Sent: 04 November 2018 00:08
To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
Subject: [Tech1] Magnets

I have just purchased a Neodymium magnet from Clas Olson to replace the one
I lent to my daughter in Somerset. I took it to my usual Thursday BBC
retirees 'put-the-world-to-rights' get-together and not one person round the
table could separate the magnet from the 'keeper' plate! It is rated at 30
KG. force and is only 32 mm. diameter! Amazing! I use one to keep my back
door open in hot weather and for picking any small screws off the carpet (I
once dropped a load of watch screws onto a carpet and they are almost
invisible to the naked eye!). If you buy one be careful, it will take your
skin off! Cheers, Dave

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From mibridge at mac.com  Sat Nov  3 16:06:41 2018
From: mibridge at mac.com (Mike Giles)
Date: Sat, 03 Nov 2018 21:06:41 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Birthday presents
In-Reply-To: <18f67346-8f40-e388-8a2e-5b5e2a106fb6@btinternet.com>
References: <5AF328480FC54B4D@rgout05.bt.lon5.cpcloud.co.uk>
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Message-ID: <90176708-B99F-4068-999E-62BBA633D2A7@mac.com>

They seem to be intended for a gentleman, Dave ~ was there some mistake? (You know I don?t mean it really!)

Mike G

> On 3 Nov 2018, at 18:33, dave.mdv via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> Could this be the worst birthday present ever from a son to his father on his 80th.birthday, knowing that it is his Dad's favourite red? Answers on a postcard, please. Cheers, hic, Dave
> 
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> -------- Forwarded Message --------
> Date: 	Sat, 03 Nov 2018 16:25:23 +0000
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From dave.mdv at btinternet.com  Sun Nov  4 13:20:34 2018
From: dave.mdv at btinternet.com (dave.mdv)
Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2018 19:20:34 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Magnets
In-Reply-To: <006101d473d5$9b6c47a0$d244d6e0$@theeccles.uk>
References: <40e83f30-d0c2-ed2b-f4da-a807ec1b4b8c@btinternet.com>
	<006101d473d5$9b6c47a0$d244d6e0$@theeccles.uk>
Message-ID: <f706cbd0-e79b-cab5-b845-ed6a3cae0aa1@btinternet.com>

Thanks Martin, very interesting! The thought of a 2000 kg. pull magnet 
makes my eyes water - it's not cheap though! Cheers, Dave


From dave at davesound.co.uk  Mon Nov  5 04:21:51 2018
From: dave at davesound.co.uk (Dave Plowman)
Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2018 10:21:51 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [Tech1] Magnets
In-Reply-To: <f706cbd0-e79b-cab5-b845-ed6a3cae0aa1@btinternet.com>
References: <f706cbd0-e79b-cab5-b845-ed6a3cae0aa1@btinternet.com>
Message-ID: <57522378c2dave@davesound.co.uk>

Interesting the way magnets have improved since computer HDs etc arrived.

Old car has a Lucas permanent magnet wiper motor. Even when new, was
marginal power wise. Many fitted shorter wiper blades to help it along.

Have replaced mine with a 20 year newer design from Valeo. Has ceramic
magnets. Roughly the same physical size, and takes about the same max
current, but produces 4 times more torque.

-- 
*I must always remember that I'm unique, just like everyone else. *

    Dave Plowman     dave at davesound.co.uk     London SW 12
    


From j at howell61.f9.co.uk  Mon Nov  5 04:47:17 2018
From: j at howell61.f9.co.uk (John Howell)
Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2018 10:47:17 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Magnets
In-Reply-To: <57522378c2dave@davesound.co.uk>
References: <f706cbd0-e79b-cab5-b845-ed6a3cae0aa1@btinternet.com>
	<57522378c2dave@davesound.co.uk>
Message-ID: <5ea6ca8d-0839-2570-fca6-dbdf328578c7@howell61.f9.co.uk>

I Have a vintage horn loudspeaker with very little magnetism of its own.

A couple of neodymium button magnets strategically placed in its works

gives a 6dB increase in output, and you don't have to screw them down!

Hibou.


On 05/11/2018 10:21, Dave Plowman via Tech1 wrote:
> Interesting the way magnets have improved since computer HDs etc arrived.
>
> Old car has a Lucas permanent magnet wiper motor. Even when new, was
> marginal power wise. Many fitted shorter wiper blades to help it along.
>
> Have replaced mine with a 20 year newer design from Valeo. Has ceramic
> magnets. Roughly the same physical size, and takes about the same max
> current, but produces 4 times more torque.
>

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From dave.mdv at btinternet.com  Mon Nov  5 07:49:07 2018
From: dave.mdv at btinternet.com (dave.mdv)
Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2018 13:49:07 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Magnets
In-Reply-To: <5ea6ca8d-0839-2570-fca6-dbdf328578c7@howell61.f9.co.uk>
References: <f706cbd0-e79b-cab5-b845-ed6a3cae0aa1@btinternet.com>
	<57522378c2dave@davesound.co.uk>
	<5ea6ca8d-0839-2570-fca6-dbdf328578c7@howell61.f9.co.uk>
Message-ID: <547ef97f-644d-fe62-c033-5fdcc9cc90e9@btinternet.com>

Typically inventive of you John! BTW, does anyone know what neodymium 
is? Cheers, Dave


From chris at chriswoolf.co.uk  Mon Nov  5 08:32:53 2018
From: chris at chriswoolf.co.uk (Chris Woolf)
Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2018 14:32:53 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Magnets
In-Reply-To: <547ef97f-644d-fe62-c033-5fdcc9cc90e9@btinternet.com>
References: <f706cbd0-e79b-cab5-b845-ed6a3cae0aa1@btinternet.com>
	<57522378c2dave@davesound.co.uk>
	<5ea6ca8d-0839-2570-fca6-dbdf328578c7@howell61.f9.co.uk>
	<547ef97f-644d-fe62-c033-5fdcc9cc90e9@btinternet.com>
Message-ID: <0d16f08d-9db7-d549-5d7d-4c2cbc2d32cd@chriswoolf.co.uk>

It's a "rare earth" element.

Neodymium and Samarium are useful for very powerful magnets (in 
conjunction with iron and cobalt usually, because otherwise the 
magnetism ain't there at room temperature). Occasionally you will find 
Yttrium too.

Chris Woolf


On 05/11/2018 13:49, dave.mdv via Tech1 wrote:
> Typically inventive of you John! BTW, does anyone know what neodymium 
> is? Cheers, Dave
>


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From keithwicksuk at gmail.com  Mon Nov  5 08:39:17 2018
From: keithwicksuk at gmail.com (Keith Wicks)
Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2018 14:39:17 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Magnets
In-Reply-To: <0d16f08d-9db7-d549-5d7d-4c2cbc2d32cd@chriswoolf.co.uk>
References: <f706cbd0-e79b-cab5-b845-ed6a3cae0aa1@btinternet.com>
	<57522378c2dave@davesound.co.uk>
	<5ea6ca8d-0839-2570-fca6-dbdf328578c7@howell61.f9.co.uk>
	<547ef97f-644d-fe62-c033-5fdcc9cc90e9@btinternet.com>
	<0d16f08d-9db7-d549-5d7d-4c2cbc2d32cd@chriswoolf.co.uk>
Message-ID: <CAA=qGJn0b+kNJYSj8zsQTbOr1+MbhMLoicfNfxpjBunZEzvY1Q@mail.gmail.com>

See:
https://wiki2.org/en/Neodymium

On Mon, 5 Nov 2018 at 14:33, Chris Woolf via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
wrote:

> It's a "rare earth" element.
>
> Neodymium and Samarium are useful for very powerful magnets (in
> conjunction with iron and cobalt usually, because otherwise the
> magnetism ain't there at room temperature). Occasionally you will find
> Yttrium too.
>
> Chris Woolf
>
>
> On 05/11/2018 13:49, dave.mdv via Tech1 wrote:
> > Typically inventive of you John! BTW, does anyone know what neodymium
> > is? Cheers, Dave
> >
>
>
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From patheigham at amps.net  Mon Nov  5 08:44:27 2018
From: patheigham at amps.net (patheigham)
Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2018 14:44:27 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Magnets
In-Reply-To: <CAA=qGJn0b+kNJYSj8zsQTbOr1+MbhMLoicfNfxpjBunZEzvY1Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <f706cbd0-e79b-cab5-b845-ed6a3cae0aa1@btinternet.com>
	<57522378c2dave@davesound.co.uk>
	<5ea6ca8d-0839-2570-fca6-dbdf328578c7@howell61.f9.co.uk>
	<547ef97f-644d-fe62-c033-5fdcc9cc90e9@btinternet.com>
	<0d16f08d-9db7-d549-5d7d-4c2cbc2d32cd@chriswoolf.co.uk>
	<CAA=qGJn0b+kNJYSj8zsQTbOr1+MbhMLoicfNfxpjBunZEzvY1Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5be0574b.1c69fb81.45d9b.a3a8@mx.google.com>

Samariums ? alien creatures encountered by Dr. Who?
Neodymium ? a pharmaceutical remedy for the squits!

Pat (flippantly)

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From: Keith Wicks via Tech1
Sent: 05 November 2018 14:39
To: chris at chriswoolf.co.uk
Cc: tech1
Subject: Re: [Tech1] Magnets

See:
https://wiki2.org/en/Neodymium

On Mon, 5 Nov 2018 at 14:33, Chris Woolf via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
It's a "rare earth" element.

Neodymium and Samarium are useful for very powerful magnets (in 
conjunction with iron and cobalt usually, because otherwise the 
magnetism ain't there at room temperature). Occasionally you will find 
Yttrium too.

Chris Woolf


On 05/11/2018 13:49, dave.mdv via Tech1 wrote:
> Typically inventive of you John! BTW, does anyone know what neodymium 
> is? Cheers, Dave




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From patheigham at amps.net  Mon Nov  5 08:55:58 2018
From: patheigham at amps.net (patheigham)
Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2018 14:55:58 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Magnets
In-Reply-To: <CAA=qGJn0b+kNJYSj8zsQTbOr1+MbhMLoicfNfxpjBunZEzvY1Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <f706cbd0-e79b-cab5-b845-ed6a3cae0aa1@btinternet.com>
	<57522378c2dave@davesound.co.uk>
	<5ea6ca8d-0839-2570-fca6-dbdf328578c7@howell61.f9.co.uk>
	<547ef97f-644d-fe62-c033-5fdcc9cc90e9@btinternet.com>
	<0d16f08d-9db7-d549-5d7d-4c2cbc2d32cd@chriswoolf.co.uk>
	<CAA=qGJn0b+kNJYSj8zsQTbOr1+MbhMLoicfNfxpjBunZEzvY1Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5be059ff.1c69fb81.70a4a.9874@mx.google.com>

Re: the query about separating the keeper from the magnet, it was usually possible to ?slide? it off sideways, rather than try a vertical lift?
Don?t get your credit cards anywhere near!!
Pat

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From: Keith Wicks via Tech1
Sent: 05 November 2018 14:39
To: chris at chriswoolf.co.uk
Cc: tech1
Subject: Re: [Tech1] Magnets

See:
https://wiki2.org/en/Neodymium

On Mon, 5 Nov 2018 at 14:33, Chris Woolf via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
It's a "rare earth" element.

Neodymium and Samarium are useful for very powerful magnets (in 
conjunction with iron and cobalt usually, because otherwise the 
magnetism ain't there at room temperature). Occasionally you will find 
Yttrium too.

Chris Woolf



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From pat.heigham at btinternet.com  Mon Nov  5 09:00:47 2018
From: pat.heigham at btinternet.com (patheigham)
Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2018 15:00:47 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Magnets
In-Reply-To: <5ea6ca8d-0839-2570-fca6-dbdf328578c7@howell61.f9.co.uk>
References: <f706cbd0-e79b-cab5-b845-ed6a3cae0aa1@btinternet.com>
	<57522378c2dave@davesound.co.uk>
	<5ea6ca8d-0839-2570-fca6-dbdf328578c7@howell61.f9.co.uk>
Message-ID: <5B321EA00BD817A1@rgout01.bt.lon5.cpcloud.co.uk> (added by
	postmaster@btinternet.com)

I?m glad I read the word ?loudspeaker? ? I was about to remark that a vintage horn at our age is to be celebrated!
Pat

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From: John Howell via Tech1
Sent: 05 November 2018 11:11
To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
Subject: Re: [Tech1] Magnets

I Have a vintage horn loudspeaker with very little magnetism of its own.
A couple of neodymium button magnets strategically placed in its works
gives a 6dB increase in output, and you don't have to screw them down!
Hibou.




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From dave.mdv at btinternet.com  Mon Nov  5 14:59:45 2018
From: dave.mdv at btinternet.com (dave.mdv)
Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2018 20:59:45 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Vintage horns
In-Reply-To: <5B321EA00BD817A1@rgout01.bt.lon5.cpcloud.co.uk>
References: <f706cbd0-e79b-cab5-b845-ed6a3cae0aa1@btinternet.com>
	<57522378c2dave@davesound.co.uk>
	<5ea6ca8d-0839-2570-fca6-dbdf328578c7@howell61.f9.co.uk>
	<5B321EA00BD817A1@rgout01.bt.lon5.cpcloud.co.uk>
Message-ID: <5f3a94b4-0f7a-a464-7dcf-37a44bcc98f0@btinternet.com>

I hope you aren't implying that old age has affected me in any way! 
Cheers, Dave


From tonycrake at gmail.com  Tue Nov  6 05:30:56 2018
From: tonycrake at gmail.com (Tony Crake)
Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2018 11:30:56 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] I Phone
Message-ID: <CAMf6fxVSnYhmYYZH17JxSTTYJFySNy2oNCjecs7T8OZdiMgEwA@mail.gmail.com>

Having just bought an i phone I find it the most fiendish bit of kit I've
ever met !!!!!

One question..... How do you 'turn the sensitivity of the photo "take"
 button down?????

I took it for a trip to the Tower of London last night and took "20"
exposures or

so I thought!   On (eventually ) transferring to my Mac this morning I find
have 576 exposures

mostly of rubbish... it seems to be stuck in "motor drive" mode.  Any tips
???

tonycrake
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From peter.neill at icloud.com  Tue Nov  6 05:53:52 2018
From: peter.neill at icloud.com (Peter Neill)
Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2018 11:53:52 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] I Phone
In-Reply-To: <CAMf6fxVSnYhmYYZH17JxSTTYJFySNy2oNCjecs7T8OZdiMgEwA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMf6fxVSnYhmYYZH17JxSTTYJFySNy2oNCjecs7T8OZdiMgEwA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <B740F4DD-E4AF-4AD9-B3A9-6E1153688B57@icloud.com>

It?s deliberate - and you can?t turn it off (though some modes disable it).

See this article for some tips

http://track.smtpsendemail.com/20919/c?p=QZXIia0XXwcziLLhRV3yjZyW7tlivmdx4SMhBlA3hO-jdnYbGo2orh3_yfqnt_IK0WMtSbDk8H4GGOKhA12PUA3ZkyoYuEvSf2m45k66i2scc1h4Q8Agz09EVIXOW5vc1xOrLZBjRJr-ncgBppJ-RnBZ28iRNXeqWR--Z2QRj4Y=

Peter





> On 6 Nov 2018, at 11:30, Tony Crake via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> Having just bought an i phone I find it the most fiendish bit of kit I've ever met !!!!!
> 
> One question..... How do you 'turn the sensitivity of the photo "take"  button down?????
> 
> I took it for a trip to the Tower of London last night and took "20" exposures or
> 
> so I thought!   On (eventually ) transferring to my Mac this morning I find have 576 exposures
> 
> mostly of rubbish... it seems to be stuck in "motor drive" mode.  Any tips ???
> 
> tonycrake
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From graeme.wall at icloud.com  Tue Nov  6 05:59:13 2018
From: graeme.wall at icloud.com (Graeme Wall)
Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2018 11:59:13 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] I Phone
In-Reply-To: <B740F4DD-E4AF-4AD9-B3A9-6E1153688B57@icloud.com>
References: <CAMf6fxVSnYhmYYZH17JxSTTYJFySNy2oNCjecs7T8OZdiMgEwA@mail.gmail.com>
	<B740F4DD-E4AF-4AD9-B3A9-6E1153688B57@icloud.com>
Message-ID: <C9C6A3D2-F827-4285-899E-FCAC6F3BAB7A@icloud.com>

Alternatively use one of the volume controls as a conventional shutter rather than the on screen version.  More intuitive for old fogeys like me.


> On 6 Nov 2018, at 11:53, Peter Neill via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> It?s deliberate - and you can?t turn it off (though some modes disable it).
> 
> See this article for some tips
> 
> https://macpaw.com/how-to/how-to-delete-burst-mode-photos-mac
> 
> Peter
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 6 Nov 2018, at 11:30, Tony Crake via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
>> 
>> Having just bought an i phone I find it the most fiendish bit of kit I've ever met !!!!!
>> 
>> One question..... How do you 'turn the sensitivity of the photo "take"  button down?????
>> 
>> I took it for a trip to the Tower of London last night and took "20" exposures or
>> 
>> so I thought!   On (eventually ) transferring to my Mac this morning I find have 576 exposures
>> 
>> mostly of rubbish... it seems to be stuck in "motor drive" mode.  Any tips ???
>> 
>> tonycrake
>> -- 
>> Tech1 mailing list
>> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
>> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk
> 
> 
> -- 
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From tonycrake at gmail.com  Tue Nov  6 14:19:36 2018
From: tonycrake at gmail.com (Tony Crake)
Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2018 20:19:36 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] I Phone
In-Reply-To: <B740F4DD-E4AF-4AD9-B3A9-6E1153688B57@icloud.com>
References: <CAMf6fxVSnYhmYYZH17JxSTTYJFySNy2oNCjecs7T8OZdiMgEwA@mail.gmail.com>
	<B740F4DD-E4AF-4AD9-B3A9-6E1153688B57@icloud.com>
Message-ID: <CAMf6fxUXKLtMQ+Vc-rzx336Gkqgi6qMF2_BYwM98JxrQ-uD9yw@mail.gmail.com>

Graham and Peter ..Many thanks for tips various.... It seems a bit of
practice is called for
selecting the HDR  mode seems to work OK  ...  I won't trade my Sony
Cameras in just yet !!!!

tonycrake

On Tue, 6 Nov 2018 at 11:54, Peter Neill via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
wrote:

> It?s deliberate - and you can?t turn it off (though some modes disable it).
>
> See this article for some tips
>
> https://macpaw.com/how-to/how-to-delete-burst-mode-photos-mac
> <http://track.smtpsendemail.com/20919/c?p=BYY479JiIhGTTx37dQMXWAJcIiqnY_IJ8z2WNRkD9G_UliFMPCPjd4lrEsTj78n1qOOYT0eE8c_TWz4ox9eQIGv8cEHucs82G5oNUtCRMyPr6Yl8JUYXiae5n8rR5FkbuydW_JGqKKWWWO2VAanQ7nxHP4DdcWdwX3CKumDnx1I=>
>
> Peter
>
>
>
>
>
> On 6 Nov 2018, at 11:30, Tony Crake via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
> Having just bought an i phone I find it the most fiendish bit of kit I've
> ever met !!!!!
>
> One question..... How do you 'turn the sensitivity of the photo "take"
>  button down?????
>
> I took it for a trip to the Tower of London last night and took "20"
> exposures or
>
> so I thought!   On (eventually ) transferring to my Mac this morning I
> find have 576 exposures
>
> mostly of rubbish... it seems to be stuck in "motor drive" mode.  Any tips
> ???
>
> tonycrake
> --
> Tech1 mailing list
> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk
>
>
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From bernie833 at gmail.com  Thu Nov  8 03:42:19 2018
From: bernie833 at gmail.com (Bernard Newnham)
Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2018 09:42:19 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] well, as it's gone a bit quiet....
Message-ID: <9098eda4-0fe0-7f24-2bf1-eff0fb604b9f@gmail.com>

I just found this, and was impressed by it's amazing ingernuity and 
ultimate uslessness? . Probably kept someone in a hobby for months -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1D7RXVnKcic

What hobbies to people here have, in their secret sheds?

B

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From pat.heigham at btinternet.com  Thu Nov  8 04:21:32 2018
From: pat.heigham at btinternet.com (patheigham)
Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2018 10:21:32 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] well, as it's gone a bit quiet....
In-Reply-To: <9098eda4-0fe0-7f24-2bf1-eff0fb604b9f@gmail.com>
References: <9098eda4-0fe0-7f24-2bf1-eff0fb604b9f@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5B321EA00C2C2620@rgout01.bt.lon5.cpcloud.co.uk> (added by
	postmaster@btinternet.com)

Fascinating! A mixture of Rowland Emett and Heath Robinson?.
Did you run on for The Lemonade Machine?
Follows the first effort.
Pat

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Bernard Newnham via Tech1
Sent: 08 November 2018 09:42
To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
Subject: [Tech1] well, as it's gone a bit quiet....

I just found this, and was impressed by it's amazing ingernuity and ultimate uslessness? . Probably kept someone in a hobby for months - 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1D7RXVnKcic

What hobbies to people here have, in their secret sheds?

B
?



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From crew13 at vincent68.plus.com  Thu Nov  8 05:21:08 2018
From: crew13 at vincent68.plus.com (John Vincent)
Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2018 11:21:08 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Museum of the Ancient Greek Technology
Message-ID: <F630B2A4-C389-4D43-91AE-6B71DAC9FA6F@vincent68.plus.com>



http://kotsanas.com/gb/index.php


From bernie833 at gmail.com  Thu Nov  8 08:17:35 2018
From: bernie833 at gmail.com (Bernard Newnham)
Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2018 14:17:35 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Museum of the Ancient Greek Technology
In-Reply-To: <F630B2A4-C389-4D43-91AE-6B71DAC9FA6F@vincent68.plus.com>
References: <F630B2A4-C389-4D43-91AE-6B71DAC9FA6F@vincent68.plus.com>
Message-ID: <002a469f-7a2c-60f2-1906-1cda58cb0609@ntlworld.com>

Are we following Mr Clickspring building the Antikythera Mechanism?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ML4tw_UzqZE

B



On 08/11/2018 11:21, John Vincent via Tech1 wrote:
>
> http://kotsanas.com/gb/index.php
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From dave.mdv at btinternet.com  Thu Nov  8 18:22:09 2018
From: dave.mdv at btinternet.com (dave.mdv)
Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2018 00:22:09 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Domestic TV distribution
Message-ID: <f34ddb32-7dd8-da85-ad26-72c6c01b7fbf@btinternet.com>

My domestic TV distribution consists of a high-gain UHF wide-band aerial 
diplexed with a high-gain FM aerial into a channel inserter which adds 
Channel 40 signals from a Freeview box (so that we can see anything 
recorded from Freeview anywhere in the house) and then into a 
distribution amplifier to feed each room. The Channel 40 feed used to be 
ch. 38 until the polititians invented Channel 5 which cocked everything 
up as polititians do! Anyway, the purpose of this epistle is to 
recommend the RF Modulator I bought on e-bay for only ?13.99 and has 
performed  superbly for the last 4 years and I hope many more. It came 
from 'Boss-Tec Ltd. 26, Malvern Rise, Huddersfield, HD6 4DG'. You can 
chose any UHF output channel. Cheers, Dave


From gary_critcher at yahoo.com  Fri Nov  9 09:34:37 2018
From: gary_critcher at yahoo.com (Gary Critcher)
Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2018 15:34:37 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Tech1] Well, I haven't done this in about 35 years.
References: <1962478852.2846598.1541777678633.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
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Splice film that is.

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From graeme.wall at icloud.com  Fri Nov  9 09:47:06 2018
From: graeme.wall at icloud.com (Graeme Wall)
Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2018 15:47:06 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Well, I haven't done this in about 35 years.
In-Reply-To: <1962478852.2846598.1541777678633@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1962478852.2846598.1541777678633.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
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Cuddly Carole, wasn?t she girl on reception at Lime Grove?

> On 9 Nov 2018, at 15:34, Gary Critcher via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> Splice film that is.
> 
> 
> <film3.jpg><film1.jpg>-- 
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From patheigham at amps.net  Fri Nov  9 10:48:34 2018
From: patheigham at amps.net (patheigham)
Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2018 16:48:34 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Well, I haven't done this in about 35 years.
In-Reply-To: <1962478852.2846598.1541777678633@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1962478852.2846598.1541777678633.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
	<1962478852.2846598.1541777678633@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <5be5ba63.1c69fb81.f8cdb.dab1@mx.google.com>

For my sins, I still have Std8, Super 8 sound and two 16mm Elf Com-Opt projectors, with a CIR tape splicer for 16mm and a Hahnel for 8 and S8.
The latter has a motorised scraper for chamfered cement joins.
However, my 16mm library of movies that I worked on has been largely superceded by video versions on BluRay, where available, projected
onto a 6? or 9? screen with a Panasonic projector which delivers Hi-Def.
Two pics attached ? one outdoors (9?) and one indoors (6?) for screenings at friends? places. For the garden presentation, the punters got a welcome
drink and supper ? hence the queue for the grub! Guy ropes on the big screen as the first year we mounted the show, the wind got up and blew
it over! Luckily not during the movie! You can?t see the 16mm in the garden one, but the video projector was for a ?supporting programme? 
- a locally made newsreel for the village. They got a Tom & Jerry before the main feature, the latter usually rented from Filmbank library.
Best
Pat






Subject: [Tech1] Well, I haven't done this in about 35 years.




Splice film that is.





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From bernie833 at gmail.com  Fri Nov  9 11:42:43 2018
From: bernie833 at gmail.com (Bernard Newnham)
Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2018 17:42:43 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Well, I haven't done this in about 35 years.
In-Reply-To: <1962478852.2846598.1541777678633@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1962478852.2846598.1541777678633.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
	<1962478852.2846598.1541777678633@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <d8797f63-395d-951c-65ca-a7f99df5f2f9@ntlworld.com>

We all look forward to the DVD

B



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From bernie833 at gmail.com  Fri Nov  9 11:43:16 2018
From: bernie833 at gmail.com (Bernard Newnham)
Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2018 17:43:16 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Well, I haven't done this in about 35 years.
In-Reply-To: <1962478852.2846598.1541777678633@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1962478852.2846598.1541777678633.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
	<1962478852.2846598.1541777678633@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <bbe54781-f02a-279b-b41c-65e7ebcab41c@gmail.com>

We all look forward to the DVD

B



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From rogerbunce at btinternet.com  Fri Nov  9 13:25:16 2018
From: rogerbunce at btinternet.com (ROGER BUNCE)
Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2018 19:25:16 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Tech1] Museum of the Ancient Greek Technology
In-Reply-To: <002a469f-7a2c-60f2-1906-1cda58cb0609@ntlworld.com>
References: <F630B2A4-C389-4D43-91AE-6B71DAC9FA6F@vincent68.plus.com>
	<002a469f-7a2c-60f2-1906-1cda58cb0609@ntlworld.com>
Message-ID: <451750969.3038712.1541791516472@mail.yahoo.com>

 A heroic effort to build a mechanism, which models an understanding of the Solar System, which was completely wrong!?
The challenge now, must be for someone to build a similar mechanism which depicts the Solar System as we now understand it - Sun in the middle; Earth going round it; planets on elliptical orbits; etc.
Anyone?
luv, Rog.
    On Thursday, 8 November 2018, 14:18:06 GMT, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:  
 
  Are we following Mr Clickspring building the Antikythera Mechanism?
 
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ML4tw_UzqZE
 
 B
 
 
 
 On 08/11/2018 11:21, John Vincent via Tech1 wrote:
  
 http://kotsanas.com/gb/index.php

 
 
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From graeme.wall at icloud.com  Fri Nov  9 14:03:41 2018
From: graeme.wall at icloud.com (Graeme Wall)
Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2018 20:03:41 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Museum of the Ancient Greek Technology
In-Reply-To: <451750969.3038712.1541791516472@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <F630B2A4-C389-4D43-91AE-6B71DAC9FA6F@vincent68.plus.com>
	<002a469f-7a2c-60f2-1906-1cda58cb0609@ntlworld.com>
	<451750969.3038712.1541791516472@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <9A076166-A522-4710-928E-24B6161A4D1B@icloud.com>

You mean one of these?
<https://laughingsquid.com/a-beautiful-handcrafted-orrery-a-mechanical-model-of-the-solar-system/>

Graeme Wall




> On 9 Nov 2018, at 19:25, ROGER BUNCE via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> A heroic effort to build a mechanism, which models an understanding of the Solar System, which was completely wrong! 
> 
> The challenge now, must be for someone to build a similar mechanism which depicts the Solar System as we now understand it - Sun in the middle; Earth going round it; planets on elliptical orbits; etc.
> 
> Anyone?
> 
> luv, Rog.
> 
> On Thursday, 8 November 2018, 14:18:06 GMT, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> 
> Are we following Mr Clickspring building the Antikythera Mechanism?
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ML4tw_UzqZE
> 
> B
> 
> 
> 
> On 08/11/2018 11:21, John Vincent via Tech1 wrote:
>> http://kotsanas.com/gb/index.php
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
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From paul at pgtmedia.co.uk  Fri Nov  9 14:08:48 2018
From: paul at pgtmedia.co.uk (Paul Thackray)
Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2018 20:08:48 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Museum of the Ancient Greek Technology
In-Reply-To: <9A076166-A522-4710-928E-24B6161A4D1B@icloud.com>
Message-ID: <b33dosf50temkjojsahvk3j3.1541794128715@pgtmedia.co.uk>

I am still convinced the earth is flat and the stars are holes in the roof? 



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From: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
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To: rogerbunce at btinternet.com
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Cc: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
Subject: Re: [Tech1] Museum of the Ancient Greek Technology


You mean one of these?
 <https://laughingsquid.com/a-beautiful-handcrafted-orrery-a-mechanical-model-of-the-solar-system/>

 Graeme Wall




 > On 9 Nov 2018, at 19:25, ROGER BUNCE via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
 >
 > A heroic effort to build a mechanism, which models an understanding of the Solar System, which was completely wrong!
 >
 > The challenge now, must be for someone to build a similar mechanism which depicts the Solar System as we now understand it - Sun in the middle; Earth going round it; planets on elliptical orbits; etc.
 >
 > Anyone?
 >
 > luv, Rog.
 >
 > On Thursday, 8 November 2018, 14:18:06 GMT, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
 >
 >
 > Are we following Mr Clickspring building the Antikythera Mechanism?
 >
 > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ML4tw_UzqZE
 >
 > B
 >
 >
 >
 > On 08/11/2018 11:21, John Vincent via Tech1 wrote:
 >> http://kotsanas.com/gb/index.php
 >>
 >>
 >>
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From rogerbunce at btinternet.com  Sat Nov 10 05:11:18 2018
From: rogerbunce at btinternet.com (ROGER BUNCE)
Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2018 11:11:18 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Tech1] Museum of the Ancient Greek Technology
In-Reply-To: <9A076166-A522-4710-928E-24B6161A4D1B@icloud.com>
References: <F630B2A4-C389-4D43-91AE-6B71DAC9FA6F@vincent68.plus.com>
	<002a469f-7a2c-60f2-1906-1cda58cb0609@ntlworld.com>
	<451750969.3038712.1541791516472@mail.yahoo.com>
	<9A076166-A522-4710-928E-24B6161A4D1B@icloud.com>
Message-ID: <1545129943.181144.1541848278547@mail.yahoo.com>

 Love it - but those orbits aren't elliptical!
    On Friday, 9 November 2018, 20:03:48 GMT, Graeme Wall <graeme.wall at icloud.com> wrote:  
 
 You mean one of these?
<https://laughingsquid.com/a-beautiful-handcrafted-orrery-a-mechanical-model-of-the-solar-system/>

Graeme Wall




> On 9 Nov 2018, at 19:25, ROGER BUNCE via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> A heroic effort to build a mechanism, which models an understanding of the Solar System, which was completely wrong! 
> 
> The challenge now, must be for someone to build a similar mechanism which depicts the Solar System as we now understand it - Sun in the middle; Earth going round it; planets on elliptical orbits; etc.
> 
> Anyone?
> 
> luv, Rog.
> 
> On Thursday, 8 November 2018, 14:18:06 GMT, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> 
> Are we following Mr Clickspring building the Antikythera Mechanism?
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ML4tw_UzqZE
> 
> B
> 
> 
> 
> On 08/11/2018 11:21, John Vincent via Tech1 wrote:
>> http://kotsanas.com/gb/index.php
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
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From bernie833 at gmail.com  Sat Nov 10 07:51:42 2018
From: bernie833 at gmail.com (Bernard Newnham)
Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2018 13:51:42 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Museum of the Ancient Greek Technology
In-Reply-To: <1545129943.181144.1541848278547@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <F630B2A4-C389-4D43-91AE-6B71DAC9FA6F@vincent68.plus.com>
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKS7C0dC-bU




On 10/11/2018 11:11, ROGER BUNCE via Tech1 wrote:
> Love it - but those orbits aren't elliptical!
>
> On Friday, 9 November 2018, 20:03:48 GMT, Graeme Wall 
> <graeme.wall at icloud.com> wrote:
>
>
> You mean one of these?
> <https://laughingsquid.com/a-beautiful-handcrafted-orrery-a-mechanical-model-of-the-solar-system/>
>
> Graeme Wall
>
>
>
>
> > On 9 Nov 2018, at 19:25, ROGER BUNCE via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk 
> <mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>> wrote:
> >
> > A heroic effort to build a mechanism, which models an understanding 
> of the Solar System, which was completely wrong!
> >
> > The challenge now, must be for someone to build a similar mechanism 
> which depicts the Solar System as we now understand it - Sun in the 
> middle; Earth going round it; planets on elliptical orbits; etc.
> >
> > Anyone?
> >
> > luv, Rog.
> >
> > On Thursday, 8 November 2018, 14:18:06 GMT, Bernard Newnham via 
> Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk <mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Are we following Mr Clickspring building the Antikythera Mechanism?
> >
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ML4tw_UzqZE
> >
> > B
> >
> >
> >
> > On 08/11/2018 11:21, John Vincent via Tech1 wrote:
> >> http://kotsanas.com/gb/index.php
> >>
> >>
> >>
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From dudley.darby at gmail.com  Sat Nov 10 09:49:29 2018
From: dudley.darby at gmail.com (Dudley Darby)
Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2018 15:49:29 -0000
Subject: [Tech1] 1953 TV intake.
Message-ID: <CB028FA85036482E87FC8B39562B1D99@CustomPC>

Hi guys

 

A photo here from Paul Kay. It's the TV Intake of 1953. Can anyone put names
to some of the faces, perhaps Cliff White or Pete Hales?

 

So far we think we have names for a few, though its possible some aren't
right.

 

Top row: Peter Valentine, -?- , Terry Wild, -?- , Cliff White, -?- , Roy
Thomas, -?- , -?-

 

Middle row: -?- , -?- , Adrian Stocks, -?- , Paul Kay, Neil Campbell, -?- ,
-?- , Derek Martin, Clive Thomas

 

Bottom Row: -?- , Peter Hales, Richard Chubb, Doug Routledge, -?- , -?- ,
-?- , Brian Clement, -?-

 

Dudley

 

Dudley C. Darby

Tel: +44 1795 536723

Mobile: +44 780 372 4696

Email:  <mailto:Dudley.Darby at gmail.com> Dudley.Darby at gmail.com

 

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From cliffwhite4628 at gmail.com  Sat Nov 10 10:12:07 2018
From: cliffwhite4628 at gmail.com (Cliff White)
Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2018 16:12:07 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] 1953 TV intake.
In-Reply-To: <CB028FA85036482E87FC8B39562B1D99@CustomPC>
References: <CB028FA85036482E87FC8B39562B1D99@CustomPC>
Message-ID: <CAAGL8CtSeGx20HEDYdvebZoKN+phmzp0RcmFiNwa6hN0KDufsw@mail.gmail.com>

Sincere greetings, Dudley
Sorry, but the handsome chap in the middle of the top row is not me -
I was still going to school in short trousers at that time!  I
actually joined as part of the pioneering Junior PTA/PTO course number
1 in 1958.  Great photo, though, but I'm afraid I can't recognise
anyone.
Very best regards to you, Dudley.
Cliff

On 11/10/18, Dudley Darby via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> Hi guys
>
>
>
> A photo here from Paul Kay. It's the TV Intake of 1953. Can anyone put
> names
> to some of the faces, perhaps Cliff White or Pete Hales?
>
>
>
> So far we think we have names for a few, though its possible some aren't
> right.
>
>
>
> Top row: Peter Valentine, -?- , Terry Wild, -?- , Cliff White, -?- , Roy
> Thomas, -?- , -?-
>
>
>
> Middle row: -?- , -?- , Adrian Stocks, -?- , Paul Kay, Neil Campbell, -?- ,
> -?- , Derek Martin, Clive Thomas
>
>
>
> Bottom Row: -?- , Peter Hales, Richard Chubb, Doug Routledge, -?- , -?- ,
> -?- , Brian Clement, -?-
>
>
>
> Dudley
>
>
>
> Dudley C. Darby
>
> Tel: +44 1795 536723
>
> Mobile: +44 780 372 4696
>
> Email:  <mailto:Dudley.Darby at gmail.com> Dudley.Darby at gmail.com
>
>
>
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From jcpcavaciuti at gmail.com  Sat Nov 10 12:35:57 2018
From: jcpcavaciuti at gmail.com (John Cavaciuti)
Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2018 18:35:57 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] 1953 TV intake.
Message-ID: <B8D12FEB-55F9-4B0E-9C93-3DF744C5459C@gmail.com>

Hi Dudley,

Back row 4th from left Frank Prendergast became a Sound Supervisor in Cardiff
Front row 5th from the left John Lewis became Camera Supervisor in Cardiff

Hope you're well.

Cheers,

John Cav


From teateatone2 at gmail.com  Mon Nov 12 11:12:07 2018
From: teateatone2 at gmail.com (Tony Grant)
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2018 17:12:07 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] well, as it's gone a bit quiet....
In-Reply-To: <5be40e43.1c69fb81.58352.cb71SMTPIN_ADDED_BROKEN@mx.google.com>
References: <9098eda4-0fe0-7f24-2bf1-eff0fb604b9f@gmail.com>
	<5be40e43.1c69fb81.58352.cb71SMTPIN_ADDED_BROKEN@mx.google.com>
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And there's more......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCTyFp0PpHE

TeaTeaFN - Tony

On Thu, Nov 8, 2018 at 10:21 AM patheigham via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
wrote:

> Fascinating! A mixture of Rowland Emett and Heath Robinson?.
>
> Did you run on for The Lemonade Machine?
>
> Follows the first effort.
>
> Pat
>
>
>
> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
> Windows 10
>
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From dave.mdv at btinternet.com  Tue Nov 13 16:09:05 2018
From: dave.mdv at btinternet.com (dave.mdv)
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2018 22:09:05 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Break-ins
Message-ID: <c1e87a86-4c12-79c1-7bd5-d958239e6c4c@btinternet.com>

Last evening my Kenyan-Indian neighbours were burgled for the second 
time this year, they had just popped out to get a Nando's takeaway for 
dinner between 1900 and 2000. In April, the lady of the house had just 
popped out to the local library from 1615-1700 and the house was broken 
into and ?3000 cash and jewellery was taken, this time they had no cash 
laying around. She insisted I went round to see the rear French window 
was open but I didn't want to contaminate a crime scene! They have a 
burglar alarm box on the front of the house but when I asked - they 
haven't got it switched on! They have huge solid metal gates to the back 
of the house - but they aren't locked! Words fail me! The police came 
round and asked various questions including 'if I had CCTV' but 
unfortunately I don't, but I might consider it as we might be away on 
holiday sometime. Any recommendations for a good CCTV installation? 
Cheers, Dave.


From j at howell61.f9.co.uk  Tue Nov 13 17:59:40 2018
From: j at howell61.f9.co.uk (John Howell)
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2018 23:59:40 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Break-ins
In-Reply-To: <c1e87a86-4c12-79c1-7bd5-d958239e6c4c@btinternet.com>
References: <c1e87a86-4c12-79c1-7bd5-d958239e6c4c@btinternet.com>
Message-ID: <affd8277-0a38-b3d7-4e2b-19b3bf833c6a@howell61.f9.co.uk>

One solution Dave could be a camera whose output can be seen on a 
smartphone. They can have a microphone and the ability to feed a speaker 
so you can say 'smile please'. They have a movement sensor that runs a 
recorder and sends you an email when activity is detected. You don't 
have to leave your computer on, the data goes straight to your router. 
They can be ?30 to ?300 depending on quality & number of cameras.

Happy Googling, start with 'WiFi Security Camera' on Amazon.

Good Luck,

John.


On 13/11/2018 22:09, dave.mdv via Tech1 wrote:
> Last evening my Kenyan-Indian neighbours were burgled for the second 
> time this year, they had just popped out to get a Nando's takeaway for 
> dinner between 1900 and 2000. In April, the lady of the house had just 
> popped out to the local library from 1615-1700 and the house was 
> broken into and ?3000 cash and jewellery was taken, this time they had 
> no cash laying around. She insisted I went round to see the rear 
> French window was open but I didn't want to contaminate a crime scene! 
> They have a burglar alarm box on the front of the house but when I 
> asked - they haven't got it switched on! They have huge solid metal 
> gates to the back of the house - but they aren't locked! Words fail 
> me! The police came round and asked various questions including 'if I 
> had CCTV' but unfortunately I don't, but I might consider it as we 
> might be away on holiday sometime. Any recommendations for a good CCTV 
> installation? Cheers, Dave.
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From waresound at msn.com  Tue Nov 13 18:00:52 2018
From: waresound at msn.com (Nick Ware)
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2018 00:00:52 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Break-ins
In-Reply-To: <c1e87a86-4c12-79c1-7bd5-d958239e6c4c@btinternet.com>
References: <c1e87a86-4c12-79c1-7bd5-d958239e6c4c@btinternet.com>
Message-ID: <VI1P192MB027100EE0F42ADBB1E81D22FA7C30@VI1P192MB0271.EURP192.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>

Go to cpc.farnell.com<http://cpc.farnell.com> and look in the Security and CCTV section. Tons of it
there to choose from, from single to multi-camera, from surprisingly cheap to reassuringly expensive! Even dummy cameras to discourage timid would-be burglars and the like.
Also on Amazon.
And bear in mind if you install cctv and alarms etc there are BS standards that would satisfy your house and contents insurers, with a possible reduction in the annual premium.
Also bear in mind that an over elaborate security system tells burglars you have something you don?t want stolen.
Cheers,
Nick.

Sent from my iPad

On 13 Nov 2018, at 22:09, dave.mdv via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk<mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>> wrote:

Last evening my Kenyan-Indian neighbours were burgled for the second time this year, they had just popped out to get a Nando's takeaway for dinner between 1900 and 2000. In April, the lady of the house had just popped out to the local library from 1615-1700 and the house was broken into and ?3000 cash and jewellery was taken, this time they had no cash laying around. She insisted I went round to see the rear French window was open but I didn't want to contaminate a crime scene! They have a burglar alarm box on the front of the house but when I asked - they haven't got it switched on! They have huge solid metal gates to the back of the house - but they aren't locked! Words fail me! The police came round and asked various questions including 'if I had CCTV' but unfortunately I don't, but I might consider it as we might be away on holiday sometime. Any recommendations for a good CCTV installation? Cheers, Dave.

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From dave.mdv at btinternet.com  Tue Nov 13 18:21:10 2018
From: dave.mdv at btinternet.com (dave.mdv)
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2018 00:21:10 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Break-ins
In-Reply-To: <VI1P192MB027100EE0F42ADBB1E81D22FA7C30@VI1P192MB0271.EURP192.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
References: <c1e87a86-4c12-79c1-7bd5-d958239e6c4c@btinternet.com>
	<VI1P192MB027100EE0F42ADBB1E81D22FA7C30@VI1P192MB0271.EURP192.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
Message-ID: <92f3ee60-feff-4842-4c88-871d4bb4b284@btinternet.com>

Thanks Nick, as ever, very intelligent! I always wonder about houses 
with alarms and think they must have lots of expensive stuff inside! Of 
course, I haven't but it must be devastating to have any yob rifling 
through your drawers etc. My cameraman partner for some years had two 
burglaries and the yobs smeared poo all over his walls and carpets etc. 
and pinched all his power tools from the garage. Not very nice at all. 
Cheers, Dave


From waresound at msn.com  Tue Nov 13 18:23:42 2018
From: waresound at msn.com (Nick Ware)
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2018 00:23:42 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Break-ins
In-Reply-To: <affd8277-0a38-b3d7-4e2b-19b3bf833c6a@howell61.f9.co.uk>
References: <c1e87a86-4c12-79c1-7bd5-d958239e6c4c@btinternet.com>,
	<affd8277-0a38-b3d7-4e2b-19b3bf833c6a@howell61.f9.co.uk>
Message-ID: <VI1P192MB0271915686093D5630371167A7C30@VI1P192MB0271.EURP192.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>

By the way, I did a corporate podcast last week consisting of three top security experts, which I?d love to tell you all about, and who they were. Unfortunately I had to sign a NDA so can?t talk about it.
But not surprisingly, it?s high level concern about ?the internet of things? - which basically means all those remotely accessible devices that are effectively a non-password protected easy way into your router.
It?s a nice idea to be able to see that all?s OK in your house while you?re away topping up your suntan, but that?s potentially a gift to hackers, etc.
Stay safe,
Nick.
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From dave.mdv at btinternet.com  Tue Nov 13 18:26:13 2018
From: dave.mdv at btinternet.com (dave.mdv)
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2018 00:26:13 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Break-ins
In-Reply-To: <affd8277-0a38-b3d7-4e2b-19b3bf833c6a@howell61.f9.co.uk>
References: <c1e87a86-4c12-79c1-7bd5-d958239e6c4c@btinternet.com>
	<affd8277-0a38-b3d7-4e2b-19b3bf833c6a@howell61.f9.co.uk>
Message-ID: <4a12b18c-654b-ba7a-6484-704a9dee6cfa@btinternet.com>

Thanks, John, I have read about those systems and they seem very good. 
Just imagine being on the Costa Whatever and seeing someone ransacking 
your house! At least you would be prepared for the return journey home! 
There was a house near me and the burglar alarm was always going off for 
hours on end and I never saw any reaction from anybody! Cheers, Dave


From graeme.wall at icloud.com  Wed Nov 14 02:18:35 2018
From: graeme.wall at icloud.com (Graeme Wall)
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2018 08:18:35 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Break-ins
In-Reply-To: <VI1P192MB027100EE0F42ADBB1E81D22FA7C30@VI1P192MB0271.EURP192.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
References: <c1e87a86-4c12-79c1-7bd5-d958239e6c4c@btinternet.com>
	<VI1P192MB027100EE0F42ADBB1E81D22FA7C30@VI1P192MB0271.EURP192.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
Message-ID: <68535B6F-EE69-431A-BD6C-0DEB08FA41A1@icloud.com>

Don?t use a dummy camera, the crooks know what they look like and it is an invitation to burgle.

Graeme Wall




> On 14 Nov 2018, at 00:00, Nick Ware via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> Go to cpc.farnell.com and look in the Security and CCTV section. Tons of it 
> there to choose from, from single to multi-camera, from surprisingly cheap to reassuringly expensive! Even dummy cameras to discourage timid would-be burglars and the like.
> Also on Amazon.
> And bear in mind if you install cctv and alarms etc there are BS standards that would satisfy your house and contents insurers, with a possible reduction in the annual premium.
> Also bear in mind that an over elaborate security system tells burglars you have something you don?t want stolen.
> Cheers,
> Nick.
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> On 13 Nov 2018, at 22:09, dave.mdv via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
>> Last evening my Kenyan-Indian neighbours were burgled for the second time this year, they had just popped out to get a Nando's takeaway for dinner between 1900 and 2000. In April, the lady of the house had just popped out to the local library from 1615-1700 and the house was broken into and ?3000 cash and jewellery was taken, this time they had no cash laying around. She insisted I went round to see the rear French window was open but I didn't want to contaminate a crime scene! They have a burglar alarm box on the front of the house but when I asked - they haven't got it switched on! They have huge solid metal gates to the back of the house - but they aren't locked! Words fail me! The police came round and asked various questions including 'if I had CCTV' but unfortunately I don't, but I might consider it as we might be away on holiday sometime. Any recommendations for a good CCTV installation? Cheers, Dave.
>> 
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From ohbytheway.tv at gmail.com  Wed Nov 14 03:23:10 2018
From: ohbytheway.tv at gmail.com (David Denness)
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2018 09:23:10 -0000
Subject: [Tech1] Break-ins
In-Reply-To: <VI1P192MB027100EE0F42ADBB1E81D22FA7C30@VI1P192MB0271.EURP192.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
References: <c1e87a86-4c12-79c1-7bd5-d958239e6c4c@btinternet.com>
	<VI1P192MB027100EE0F42ADBB1E81D22FA7C30@VI1P192MB0271.EURP192.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
Message-ID: <000001d47bfb$a97ebc50$fc7c34f0$@gmail.com>

I was once told by a security expert not to be the only house in the street with a security system such as an alarm etc, and similarly don?t be the only house in the street without one. Both states draw attention to what you might own.

Dave D

 

From: Tech1 <tech1-bounces at tech-ops.co.uk> On Behalf Of Nick Ware via Tech1
Sent: 14 November 2018 00:01
To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
Subject: Re: [Tech1] Break-ins

 

Go to cpc.farnell.com <http://cpc.farnell.com>  and look in the Security and CCTV section. Tons of it  

there to choose from, from single to multi-camera, from surprisingly cheap to reassuringly expensive! Even dummy cameras to discourage timid would-be burglars and the like.

Also on Amazon.

And bear in mind if you install cctv and alarms etc there are BS standards that would satisfy your house and contents insurers, with a possible reduction in the annual premium.

Also bear in mind that an over elaborate security system tells burglars you have something you don?t want stolen.

Cheers,

Nick.

Sent from my iPad


On 13 Nov 2018, at 22:09, dave.mdv via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk <mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> > wrote:

Last evening my Kenyan-Indian neighbours were burgled for the second time this year, they had just popped out to get a Nando's takeaway for dinner between 1900 and 2000. In April, the lady of the house had just popped out to the local library from 1615-1700 and the house was broken into and ?3000 cash and jewellery was taken, this time they had no cash laying around. She insisted I went round to see the rear French window was open but I didn't want to contaminate a crime scene! They have a burglar alarm box on the front of the house but when I asked - they haven't got it switched on! They have huge solid metal gates to the back of the house - but they aren't locked! Words fail me! The police came round and asked various questions including 'if I had CCTV' but unfortunately I don't, but I might consider it as we might be away on holiday sometime. Any recommendations for a good CCTV installation? Cheers, Dave.

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From mibridge at mac.com  Wed Nov 14 03:37:04 2018
From: mibridge at mac.com (Mike Giles)
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2018 09:37:04 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Break-ins
In-Reply-To: <000001d47bfb$a97ebc50$fc7c34f0$@gmail.com>
References: <c1e87a86-4c12-79c1-7bd5-d958239e6c4c@btinternet.com>
	<VI1P192MB027100EE0F42ADBB1E81D22FA7C30@VI1P192MB0271.EURP192.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
	<000001d47bfb$a97ebc50$fc7c34f0$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <94A1A4BF-CCF4-4F65-8459-C995ED14A9FE@mac.com>

The police certainly attribute relatively low rates of house-breaking and burglary in this area to the fact that most houses have visible alarm systems. A smaller proportion have CCTV. Most offences here seem to be on garden sheds and farm buildings. Oh - and every now and then someone steals York paving slabs - usually several instances over a short period, so we presume they are stolen to order for specific projects. 

Mike G

> On 14 Nov 2018, at 09:23, David Denness via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> I was once told by a security expert not to be the only house in the street with a security system such as an alarm etc, and similarly don?t be the only house in the street without one. Both states draw attention to what you might own.
> Dave D
>  
> From: Tech1 <tech1-bounces at tech-ops.co.uk> On Behalf Of Nick Ware via Tech1
> Sent: 14 November 2018 00:01
> To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
> Subject: Re: [Tech1] Break-ins
>  
> Go to cpc.farnell.com and look in the Security and CCTV section. Tons of it 
> there to choose from, from single to multi-camera, from surprisingly cheap to reassuringly expensive! Even dummy cameras to discourage timid would-be burglars and the like.
> Also on Amazon.
> And bear in mind if you install cctv and alarms etc there are BS standards that would satisfy your house and contents insurers, with a possible reduction in the annual premium.
> Also bear in mind that an over elaborate security system tells burglars you have something you don?t want stolen.
> Cheers,
> Nick.
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> On 13 Nov 2018, at 22:09, dave.mdv via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> Last evening my Kenyan-Indian neighbours were burgled for the second time this year, they had just popped out to get a Nando's takeaway for dinner between 1900 and 2000. In April, the lady of the house had just popped out to the local library from 1615-1700 and the house was broken into and ?3000 cash and jewellery was taken, this time they had no cash laying around. She insisted I went round to see the rear French window was open but I didn't want to contaminate a crime scene! They have a burglar alarm box on the front of the house but when I asked - they haven't got it switched on! They have huge solid metal gates to the back of the house - but they aren't locked! Words fail me! The police came round and asked various questions including 'if I had CCTV' but unfortunately I don't, but I might consider it as we might be away on holiday sometime. Any recommendations for a good CCTV installation? Cheers, Dave.
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From dave at davesound.co.uk  Wed Nov 14 04:50:26 2018
From: dave at davesound.co.uk (Dave Plowman)
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2018 10:50:26 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [Tech1] Break-ins
In-Reply-To: <c1e87a86-4c12-79c1-7bd5-d958239e6c4c@btinternet.com>
References: <c1e87a86-4c12-79c1-7bd5-d958239e6c4c@btinternet.com>
Message-ID: <5756c89ca6dave@davesound.co.uk>

Big snag with older alarm systems is the installers often made them
awkward to use.

When I installed my own many years ago, I put a secondary control panel by
the front door.

Of course these days you'd switch it on via your mobile phone. If you've
remembered to take it with you. ;-)

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From alawrance1 at me.com  Wed Nov 14 05:03:54 2018
From: alawrance1 at me.com (Alasdair Lawrance)
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2018 11:03:54 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Break-ins
In-Reply-To: <5756c89ca6dave@davesound.co.uk>
References: <c1e87a86-4c12-79c1-7bd5-d958239e6c4c@btinternet.com>
	<5756c89ca6dave@davesound.co.uk>
Message-ID: <55819BBB-80A1-4CA8-8645-518DA415E211@me.com>

Are these systems operated over the interwebnet easily hacked, or are they fairly secure?

And is having a VPN worth the trouble?

Alasdair Lawrance
alawrance1 at me.com






On 14 Nov 2018, at 10:50, Dave Plowman via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:

Big snag with older alarm systems is the installers often made them
awkward to use.

When I installed my own many years ago, I put a secondary control panel by
the front door.

Of course these days you'd switch it on via your mobile phone. If you've
remembered to take it with you. ;-)

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From bernie833 at gmail.com  Thu Nov 15 06:03:09 2018
From: bernie833 at gmail.com (Bernard Newnham)
Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2018 12:03:09 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Genlock and Natlock
Message-ID: <9a815562-68f3-0596-06a0-2c680ac22489@gmail.com>

I used to know how these worked - I wonder if anything uses them any more?

I've been playing with something I found called Vmix. It costs $1200 or 
so, but there's a 60 day trial. It's a vision and sound mixer that runs 
on a PC.? As you'll see in the video it can do - on my now fairly 
average PC - a lot of stuff.

There are three video clips, though it can do live - I Claudius (4:3 
XVid 720x576 50i,) a Hyde Park video camera test (1920x1080 50i AVCHD), 
and Top Gun (704x575 50i MPEG2).? It all just works - and my Core i5 
2500 from 2011 happily runs that and OBS studio to record the screen 
result. I've used PPro to make the result small and low quality to make 
the file small, but it ran at 1920x1080 50i.

http://www.tech-ops.co.uk/bern/vmix1.mp4

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From chris at chriswoolf.co.uk  Thu Nov 15 06:44:54 2018
From: chris at chriswoolf.co.uk (Chris Woolf)
Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2018 12:44:54 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Genlock and Natlock
In-Reply-To: <9a815562-68f3-0596-06a0-2c680ac22489@gmail.com>
References: <9a815562-68f3-0596-06a0-2c680ac22489@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <c575a3bf-a8cc-35d3-c271-aa43bd8d4666@chriswoolf.co.uk>


On 15/11/2018 12:03, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 wrote:
> I used to know how these worked - I wonder if anything uses them any 
> more?


There isn't a lot point now. Once it became possible to store pictures, 
and thus defeat the great enemy "time", the necessity to have everything 
start off with the same timing became far less critical.

In practice cameras normally genlock to a local master - in the bad old 
days the actual sync, blanking and drive pulses were routed through - 
and the same thing applies to the output of processing chains, but frame 
storage is frequently simpler to achieve.

That also applies to audio. In many cases sample rate conversion is 
easier to achieve than locking gear to a master. When digital mics were 
brought in most had an option to have their output timing steered into 
lock - a bit like Natlock - but that hardly ever gets used nowadays, 
because rate conversion is less complicated and often better as regards 
jitter.

Chris Woolf


>
> I've been playing with something I found called Vmix. It costs $1200 
> or so, but there's a 60 day trial. It's a vision and sound mixer that 
> runs on a PC.? As you'll see in the video it can do - on my now fairly 
> average PC - a lot of stuff.
>
> There are three video clips, though it can do live - I Claudius (4:3 
> XVid 720x576 50i,) a Hyde Park video camera test (1920x1080 50i 
> AVCHD), and Top Gun (704x575 50i MPEG2).? It all just works - and my 
> Core i5 2500 from 2011 happily runs that and OBS studio to record the 
> screen result. I've used PPro to make the result small and low quality 
> to make the file small, but it ran at 1920x1080 50i.
>
> http://www.tech-ops.co.uk/bern/vmix1.mp4
>
> B
>


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From dave.mdv at btinternet.com  Fri Nov 16 17:06:35 2018
From: dave.mdv at btinternet.com (dave.mdv)
Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2018 23:06:35 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Children in Need
Message-ID: <b4556165-a3c4-8ffc-6515-24f719b5d403@btinternet.com>

Every time I watch this progarm I get tears in my eyes! They say that 
'the older you get, the nearer your bladder gets to the eyes'! I always 
think back to when, after a very difficult pregnancy we were gifted with 
a son. I don't know how my wife coped in the early years. The baby never 
stopped screaming, we had no money in a very bare maisonnette, ate off 
an ironing board, and were constantly being complained at by the 
neighbours for the noise, because he was a taxi driver who worked nights 
and got no sleep in the daytime! After six months, our son was referred 
to Charing Cross hospital to see Dr.Jolly, the top paediatrician in the 
country. The diagnosis was a very rare brain tumour called 
'di-encaphalic syndrome'. He was in there for several months and one day 
they phoned us to say that there was nothing wrong and come and take him 
home -'rather you than us!'. It was never easy from then on, 
hyper-activity was frequently mentioned, and we always had trouble with 
school open days! However, he is now a Marketing Manager of a large 
car-spares company, has two lovely daughters and a grandchild on the 
way! When I see the heartbaking cases on CIN I just count our blessings 
- although at the time they didn't seem like blessings! Cheers, Dave. 
PS. Yes, I have donated to the Rickshaw team as I couldn't have done it 
even when I was able bodied!


From dave.mdv at btinternet.com  Fri Nov 16 17:58:02 2018
From: dave.mdv at btinternet.com (dave.mdv)
Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2018 23:58:02 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Brexit
Message-ID: <8fcb5d3a-72c4-8f14-e05e-f42c26837e6d@btinternet.com>

I apologise for sullying this non-political form with that word, but 
most of us would call T.May a pig-headed woman, and we all know what 
David Cameron is reported to have done to a pig's head - perhaps he 
should be invited (ie. forced!) to come back and sort this mess out that 
he started! Cheers, Dave


From waresound at msn.com  Sat Nov 17 02:33:29 2018
From: waresound at msn.com (Nick Ware)
Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2018 08:33:29 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Children in Need
In-Reply-To: <b4556165-a3c4-8ffc-6515-24f719b5d403@btinternet.com>
References: <b4556165-a3c4-8ffc-6515-24f719b5d403@btinternet.com>
Message-ID: <VI1P192MB0271A1CE2F7573EDC44118DCA7DE0@VI1P192MB0271.EURP192.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>

We saw most of Children in Need last night, but I seem to have missed the heartbaking bit.
Donated as much as my mobile phone would let me, as I hope we all did.
So many people doing so much for such a good cause.
Cheers,
N.

Sent from my iPad

On 16 Nov 2018, at 23:07, dave.mdv via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk<mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>> wrote:

Every time I watch this progarm I get tears in my eyes! They say that 'the older you get, the nearer your bladder gets to the eyes'! I always think back to when, after a very difficult pregnancy we were gifted with a son. I don't know how my wife coped in the early years. The baby never stopped screaming, we had no money in a very bare maisonnette, ate off an ironing board, and were constantly being complained at by the neighbours for the noise, because he was a taxi driver who worked nights and got no sleep in the daytime! After six months, our son was referred to Charing Cross hospital to see Dr.Jolly, the top paediatrician in the country. The diagnosis was a very rare brain tumour called 'di-encaphalic syndrome'. He was in there for several months and one day they phoned us to say that there was nothing wrong and come and take him home -'rather you than us!'. It was never easy from then on, hyper-activity was frequently mentioned, and we always had trouble with school open days! However, he is now a Marketing Manager of a large car-spares company, has two lovely daughters and a grandchild on the way! When I see the heartbaking cases on CIN I just count our blessings - although at the time they didn't seem like blessings! Cheers, Dave. PS. Yes, I have donated to the Rickshaw team as I couldn't have done it even when I was able bodied!

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From waresound at msn.com  Sat Nov 17 03:15:00 2018
From: waresound at msn.com (Nick Ware)
Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2018 09:15:00 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Brexit
In-Reply-To: <8fcb5d3a-72c4-8f14-e05e-f42c26837e6d@btinternet.com>
References: <8fcb5d3a-72c4-8f14-e05e-f42c26837e6d@btinternet.com>
Message-ID: <VI1P192MB027157CCF18217BB946A9EACA7DE0@VI1P192MB0271.EURP192.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>

I think it was during a phone-in to Theresa May on LBC yesterday that a punter called in to have a moan about the prospects for the pharmaceutical industry post-Brexit, and possible shortage of (or unacceptable Customs delays to) essential drugs entering the UK. TM replied along the lines of: ?Well I?m a type 1 Diabetic and I depend on daily Insulin, so don?t tell me I don?t care about the pharmaceutical industry?.
I hesitate to use the trump word, but she certainly saw that caller off!
Nick.
Sent from my iPad

On 16 Nov 2018, at 23:58, dave.mdv via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk<mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>> wrote:

I apologise for sullying this non-political form with that word, but most of us would call T.May a pig-headed woman, and we all know what David Cameron is reported to have done to a pig's head - perhaps he should be invited (ie. forced!) to come back and sort this mess out that he started! Cheers, Dave

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From dave at davesound.co.uk  Sat Nov 17 05:00:11 2018
From: dave at davesound.co.uk (Dave Plowman)
Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2018 11:00:11 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [Tech1] Newsnight
Message-ID: <575855033ddave@davesound.co.uk>

I tend to watch Newsnight most days.

Over the last few days where there has been more studio than usual, I find
myself getting more and more irritated by the moving geometric background.

If they must have distracting visuals on a current affairs prog, what's
next? Background music?

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From dave.mdv at btinternet.com  Sat Nov 17 05:51:57 2018
From: dave.mdv at btinternet.com (dave.mdv)
Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2018 11:51:57 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Break-ins
Message-ID: <5dafe21b-76dd-f330-c520-4d336bc990e3@btinternet.com>

A new burglar deterrent has appeared on the wall of my twice burgled 
neighbour's front wall! That's sorted the problem then! Cheers, Dave
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From patheigham at amps.net  Sat Nov 17 06:00:02 2018
From: patheigham at amps.net (patheigham)
Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2018 12:00:02 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Brexit
In-Reply-To: <VI1P192MB027157CCF18217BB946A9EACA7DE0@VI1P192MB0271.EURP192.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
References: <8fcb5d3a-72c4-8f14-e05e-f42c26837e6d@btinternet.com>
	<VI1P192MB027157CCF18217BB946A9EACA7DE0@VI1P192MB0271.EURP192.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
Message-ID: <5bf002c1.1c69fb81.eaf2.66d5@mx.google.com>

I viewed the press conference the other night and thought that
PM came over pretty well ? some of the reporters asking questions
hadn?t been listening as the answers had been previously dealt with.
Pity that there was no reverse angle on the press, but there
was on the later news.
I have two observations re: Brexit ? the public were invited to
vote via the referendum, but were not provided with all the
pitfalls and problems that only surfaced later ? I would liken it
to a jury being asked for a verdict without hearing any
evidence, thus we were manipulated.
Secondly, if there is no hard border between NI and Eire,
doesn?t it seem likely that Europe will channel imports via
Ireland? This leading to merchandise being more expensive
due to increased transport costs arising from greater distances,
not to mention the ferry costs.

I?m appalled at the resignation of some of the cabinet ? where?s
the loyalty to the party line?
Good riddance, probably. 
Pat

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Nick Ware via Tech1
Sent: 17 November 2018 09:15
To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
Subject: Re: [Tech1] Brexit

I think it was during a phone-in to Theresa May on LBC yesterday that a punter called in to have a moan about the prospects for the pharmaceutical industry post-Brexit, and possible shortage of (or unacceptable Customs delays to) essential drugs entering the UK. TM replied along the lines of: ?Well I?m a type 1 Diabetic and I depend on daily Insulin, so don?t tell me I don?t care about the pharmaceutical industry?. 
I hesitate to use the trump word, but she certainly saw that caller off!
Nick.
Sent from my iPad

On 16 Nov 2018, at 23:58, dave.mdv via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
I apologise for sullying this non-political form with that word, but most of us would call T.May a pig-headed woman, and we all know what David Cameron is reported to have done to a pig's head - perhaps he should be invited (ie. forced!) to come back and sort this mess out that he started! Cheers, Dave

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From graeme.wall at icloud.com  Sat Nov 17 06:04:15 2018
From: graeme.wall at icloud.com (Graeme Wall)
Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2018 12:04:15 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Brexit
In-Reply-To: <5bf002c1.1c69fb81.eaf2.66d5@mx.google.com>
References: <8fcb5d3a-72c4-8f14-e05e-f42c26837e6d@btinternet.com>
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Message-ID: <68A7E700-EF78-4A22-872F-2B37DB07B789@icloud.com>

As an aside I was rather amused when, during the waiting period, the podium camera zoomed out and a battery was held in shot! Surely for something that important you?d run off a mains adaptor?
Graeme Wall




> On 17 Nov 2018, at 12:00, patheigham via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> I viewed the press conference the other night and thought that
> PM came over pretty well ? some of the reporters asking questions
> hadn?t been listening as the answers had been previously dealt with.
> Pity that there was no reverse angle on the press, but there
> was on the later news.
> I have two observations re: Brexit ? the public were invited to
> vote via the referendum, but were not provided with all the
> pitfalls and problems that only surfaced later ? I would liken it
> to a jury being asked for a verdict without hearing any
> evidence, thus we were manipulated.
> Secondly, if there is no hard border between NI and Eire,
> doesn?t it seem likely that Europe will channel imports via
> Ireland? This leading to merchandise being more expensive
> due to increased transport costs arising from greater distances,
> not to mention the ferry costs.
>  
> I?m appalled at the resignation of some of the cabinet ? where?s
> the loyalty to the party line?
> Good riddance, probably.
> Pat
>  
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>  
> From: Nick Ware via Tech1
> Sent: 17 November 2018 09:15
> To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
> Subject: Re: [Tech1] Brexit
>  
> I think it was during a phone-in to Theresa May on LBC yesterday that a punter called in to have a moan about the prospects for the pharmaceutical industry post-Brexit, and possible shortage of (or unacceptable Customs delays to) essential drugs entering the UK. TM replied along the lines of: ?Well I?m a type 1 Diabetic and I depend on daily Insulin, so don?t tell me I don?t care about the pharmaceutical industry?. 
> I hesitate to use the trump word, but she certainly saw that caller off!
> Nick.
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> On 16 Nov 2018, at 23:58, dave.mdv via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> I apologise for sullying this non-political form with that word, but most of us would call T.May a pig-headed woman, and we all know what David Cameron is reported to have done to a pig's head - perhaps he should be invited (ie. forced!) to come back and sort this mess out that he started! Cheers, Dave
> 
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From patheigham at amps.net  Sat Nov 17 06:04:22 2018
From: patheigham at amps.net (patheigham)
Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2018 12:04:22 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Break-ins
In-Reply-To: <5dafe21b-76dd-f330-c520-4d336bc990e3@btinternet.com>
References: <5dafe21b-76dd-f330-c520-4d336bc990e3@btinternet.com>
Message-ID: <5bf003c6.1c69fb81.508b.abf8@mx.google.com>

I recall seeing a notice, albeit at a rural property, which read:
?Trespassers will be prosecuted, Survivors will be shot!?

There?s a programme on next week about the guy who shot
and killed a young burglar.

Pat

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: dave.mdv via Tech1
Sent: 17 November 2018 11:52
To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
Subject: [Tech1] Break-ins

A new burglar deterrent has appeared on the wall of my twice burgled 
neighbour's front wall! That's sorted the problem then! Cheers, Dave



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From patheigham at amps.net  Sat Nov 17 06:17:18 2018
From: patheigham at amps.net (patheigham)
Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2018 12:17:18 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Brexit
In-Reply-To: <68A7E700-EF78-4A22-872F-2B37DB07B789@icloud.com>
References: <8fcb5d3a-72c4-8f14-e05e-f42c26837e6d@btinternet.com>
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	<68A7E700-EF78-4A22-872F-2B37DB07B789@icloud.com>
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Standards slipping faster than Blue Slipper clay on the Devon coast!

I did experience a shoot where the airline mislaid our box containing
both the battery charger and mains adaptor for the Betacam.
Hoicked the battery from the rental car, and buggered a cable
to provide bare ends to wrap around the terminals!
I since assembled an emergency connector kit with car battery
terminal clamps to 4-pin XLR amongst other various plugs to
access 12v sources!
Pat

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From: Graeme Wall
Sent: 17 November 2018 12:04
Subject: Re: [Tech1] Brexit

As an aside I was rather amused when, during the waiting period, the podium camera zoomed out and a battery was held in shot! Surely for something that important you?d run off a mains adaptor?
Graeme Wall







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From robert.miles at soundsuper.co.uk  Sat Nov 17 08:34:52 2018
From: robert.miles at soundsuper.co.uk (Robert Miles)
Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2018 10:34:52 -0400
Subject: [Tech1] Brexit
Message-ID: <003301d47e82$b5255d00$1f701700$@soundsuper.co.uk>

Ever wondered why so many Brits hate the EU?  Because the UK media have lied
to the British public consistently and regularly since at least 1992....
here's the evidence... 
http://tinyurl.com/yd6uf55h



I apologise for sullying this non-political form with that word, but most of
us would call T.May a pig-headed woman, and we all know what David Cameron
is reported to have done to a pig's head - perhaps he should be invited (ie.
forced!) to come back and sort this mess out that he started! Cheers, Dave

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From bernie833 at gmail.com  Sat Nov 17 09:37:02 2018
From: bernie833 at gmail.com (Bernard Newnham)
Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2018 15:37:02 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Brexit - potential slanging matches
In-Reply-To: <003301d47e82$b5255d00$1f701700$@soundsuper.co.uk>
References: <003301d47e82$b5255d00$1f701700$@soundsuper.co.uk>
Message-ID: <f95e067b-c59f-a129-733c-deb449408549@ntlworld.com>

Let's no go there.

I'm happy to create another forum for those who want to be political - 
techops-politics.......

B
(I'm in charge!)



On 17/11/2018 14:34, Robert Miles via Tech1 wrote:
> Ever wondered why so many Brits hate the EU?  Because the UK media have lied
> to the British public consistently and regularly since at least 1992....
> here's the evidence...
> http://tinyurl.com/yd6uf55h
>
>
>
> I apologise for sullying this non-political form with that word, but most of
> us would call T.May a pig-headed woman, and we all know what David Cameron
> is reported to have done to a pig's head - perhaps he should be invited (ie.
> forced!) to come back and sort this mess out that he started! Cheers, Dave
>

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From bernie833 at gmail.com  Sat Nov 17 10:08:59 2018
From: bernie833 at gmail.com (Bernard Newnham)
Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2018 16:08:59 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Brexit - potential slanging matches
In-Reply-To: <003301d47e82$b5255d00$1f701700$@soundsuper.co.uk>
References: <003301d47e82$b5255d00$1f701700$@soundsuper.co.uk>
Message-ID: <d1f04172-24ed-6c7d-0dd4-5ba997230f80@gmail.com>

Let's no go there.

I'm happy to create another forum for those who want to be political - 
techops-politics.......

B
(I'm in charge!)



On 17/11/2018 14:34, Robert Miles via Tech1 wrote:
> Ever wondered why so many Brits hate the EU?  Because the UK media have lied
> to the British public consistently and regularly since at least 1992....
> here's the evidence...
> http://tinyurl.com/yd6uf55h
>
>
>
> I apologise for sullying this non-political form with that word, but most of
> us would call T.May a pig-headed woman, and we all know what David Cameron
> is reported to have done to a pig's head - perhaps he should be invited (ie.
> forced!) to come back and sort this mess out that he started! Cheers, Dave
>

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From hughsheppard at btinternet.com  Sat Nov 17 12:44:16 2018
From: hughsheppard at btinternet.com (Hugh Sheppard)
Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2018 18:44:16 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] DIckie Baker RIP
Message-ID: <5327d048-09a8-c4f0-e8a3-af0425415141@btinternet.com>

A fond memory of the late, great, news presenter dates from AP circa 
early 1959.? Housed just outside the dressing room area that he shared 
with Bob Dougall and Kenneth Kendall, on different days, stood an early 
automated coffee machine. It was Dickie who perfected the art - or 
science - of loading an empty cup and lifting the machine on one side by 
an inch. Dropping it back triggered the release of steam, water, coffee 
and powdered milk without inserting 6d.

One day, the man from Mars, or whichever company it was, stood several 
yards away along the corridor when Dickie emerged, looked around and did 
his party piece.? 'Ah' said the man, 'So that's how it's done'. He was a 
tad in awe of the great star he'd only seen on television so all was 
amicably sorted, but the machine was nailed to the floor soon after.

Anyone else recall those days?? John Hays for one, I'd like to think.

Hugh

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From mibridge at mac.com  Sat Nov 17 16:23:47 2018
From: mibridge at mac.com (Mike Giles)
Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2018 22:23:47 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Brexit - potential slanging matches
In-Reply-To: <d1f04172-24ed-6c7d-0dd4-5ba997230f80@gmail.com>
References: <003301d47e82$b5255d00$1f701700$@soundsuper.co.uk>
	<d1f04172-24ed-6c7d-0dd4-5ba997230f80@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4DD6BED6-9EB1-4329-8AB3-FD84A33D6609@mac.com>


Count me in!

Mike G


> On 17 Nov 2018, at 16:08, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> Let's no go there.  
> 
> I'm happy to create another forum for those who want to be political - techops-politics.......
> 
> B 
> (I'm in charge!)
> 
> 
> 
>> On 17/11/2018 14:34, Robert Miles via Tech1 wrote:
>> Ever wondered why so many Brits hate the EU?  Because the UK media have lied
>> to the British public consistently and regularly since at least 1992....
>> here's the evidence... 
>> http://tinyurl.com/yd6uf55h
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I apologise for sullying this non-political form with that word, but most of
>> us would call T.May a pig-headed woman, and we all know what David Cameron
>> is reported to have done to a pig's head - perhaps he should be invited (ie.
>> forced!) to come back and sort this mess out that he started! Cheers, Dave
>> 
> 
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From mibridge at mac.com  Sat Nov 17 16:32:33 2018
From: mibridge at mac.com (Mike Giles)
Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2018 22:32:33 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Break-ins
In-Reply-To: <5dafe21b-76dd-f330-c520-4d336bc990e3@btinternet.com>
References: <5dafe21b-76dd-f330-c520-4d336bc990e3@btinternet.com>
Message-ID: <8C5EB6A0-A911-4613-8FD8-6ECA7EA0A49F@mac.com>

According to QI, what?s needed is a pair of eyes, real or otherwise, in the vicinity of the prospective offence! Clearly there must be illumination at night (so the eyes can see what?s happening!). 

Mike G

> On 17 Nov 2018, at 11:51, dave.mdv via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> A new burglar deterrent has appeared on the wall of my twice burgled neighbour's front wall! That's sorted the problem then! Cheers, Dave
> <IMG_2163.JPG>
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From ian.hillson at gmail.com  Sun Nov 18 07:56:35 2018
From: ian.hillson at gmail.com (Ian H)
Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2018 13:56:35 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] DIckie Baker RIP
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Dickie was a star - fond memories.

In my 16 years in News at AP and TVC I'd never really talked to him,
despite him (and all the other presenters and reporters) passing my door en
route to N! and N2 - you knew not to pester them (like the stars in real
telly).  Despite that, he was always game for a laugh (like the
Dougall/Baker spoof "Goodbyeee" song when we left AP) and a friend of mine
who was organising a stage show for his local church asked Dickie to record
all the announcements introducing the acts.  He gladly agreed, and people
were duly confused by this famous voice in their church hall.

My favourite memory occurred after we both left News.  He went on to
present Omnibus (I think it was) for a bit when it was a studio bound
show.  Very studio bound on the day I was there - Dickie had been standing
on one mark or another for most of the afternoon as the links and run-into
TKs/VTs were rehearsed over and over again.  Not one moan from this man
despite the laboured direction.

During a quiet bit for us upstairs I popped down to to studio floor and as
I approached him he grinned he said "*Ah, someone else who's escaped*!"
(from News).

I

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/11/17/newsreader-richard-baker-introduced-first-bbc-news-bulletin/
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-41023864
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-46246049
<iframe width="400" height="500" frameborder="0" src="
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On Sat, Nov 17, 2018 at 6:44 PM Hugh Sheppard via Tech1 <
tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:

> A fond memory of the late, great, news presenter dates from AP circa early
> 1959.  Housed just outside the dressing room area that he shared with Bob
> Dougall and Kenneth Kendall, on different days, stood an early automated
> coffee machine. It was Dickie who perfected the art - or science - of
> loading an empty cup and lifting the machine on one side by an inch.
> Dropping it back triggered the release of steam, water, coffee and powdered
> milk without inserting 6d.
>
> One day, the man from Mars, or whichever company it was, stood several
> yards away along the corridor when Dickie emerged, looked around and did
> his party piece.  'Ah' said the man, 'So that's how it's done'. He was a
> tad in awe of the great star he'd only seen on television so all was
> amicably sorted, but the machine was nailed to the floor soon after.
>
> Anyone else recall those days?  John Hays for one, I'd like to think.
>
> Hugh
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From hays.jfrank at gmail.com  Sun Nov 18 09:48:36 2018
From: hays.jfrank at gmail.com (John Hays)
Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2018 15:48:36 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] AP
Message-ID: <CAJfu4tbB0wVRiMr7PP=Y8uwhYRobAjmF9ucgrJN+eJu_4sVJVA@mail.gmail.com>

You are right Hugh.It?s nearly sixty years since that cantankerous TOM
Paddy Rigg had the camera crew polishing the camera mounts, can?t remember
what they were.I recall very late finishes due to huge overruns by the
network and getting home about 1am.Happy days!
Regards to all John Hays.
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From gary_critcher at yahoo.com  Sun Nov 18 11:25:10 2018
From: gary_critcher at yahoo.com (Gary Critcher)
Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2018 17:25:10 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Tech1] Fawlty Towers pic
References: <412669488.4090393.1542561910404.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
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here's a pic I've just picked up off of Twitter.....did anyone here work on it?
all the best,? ? ? ? ? ? ?Gary
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From dave.mdv at btinternet.com  Sun Nov 18 14:01:31 2018
From: dave.mdv at btinternet.com (dave.mdv)
Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2018 20:01:31 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] digital keyboard
Message-ID: <92bfd09a-1cfa-fde4-30b4-26173498c674@btinternet.com>

My wife would like to record from her Yamaha DGX-200 keyboard and put it 
onto a stick to sing to at a concert. The keyboard only has one 
stereo-jack output for cans or stereo system and cuts the internal 
speakers when used. Obviously, it would be necessary to hear what she is 
playing while recording. Any ideas? I was thinking that we really need 
two isolated outputs in case the cans corrupt the recording feed to the 
?stick or ?card. MP3 recorders are cheap and easy but would they do what 
I want? The alternative is to do what she has done before is to put a 
microphone over top and record onto a cassette recorder in mono(!) i.e. 
not hi-fi! This is not a professional event! Cheers, Dave


From keithwicksuk at gmail.com  Sun Nov 18 15:30:38 2018
From: keithwicksuk at gmail.com (Keith Wicks)
Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2018 21:30:38 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] digital keyboard
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I'm not familiar with this keyboard but, if you connect it to a compatible
stereo system, that should provide separate monitoring and recording
outputs. You could use your computer to record the performance as an mp3
or, better still, in an uncompressed format.


On Sun, 18 Nov 2018 at 20:01, dave.mdv via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
wrote:

> My wife would like to record from her Yamaha DGX-200 keyboard and put it
> onto a stick to sing to at a concert. The keyboard only has one
> stereo-jack output for cans or stereo system and cuts the internal
> speakers when used. Obviously, it would be necessary to hear what she is
> playing while recording. Any ideas? I was thinking that we really need
> two isolated outputs in case the cans corrupt the recording feed to the
> ?stick or ?card. MP3 recorders are cheap and easy but would they do what
> I want? The alternative is to do what she has done before is to put a
> microphone over top and record onto a cassette recorder in mono(!) i.e.
> not hi-fi! This is not a professional event! Cheers, Dave
>
> --
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From mibridge at mac.com  Sun Nov 18 16:36:12 2018
From: mibridge at mac.com (Mike Giles)
Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2018 22:36:12 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] digital keyboard
In-Reply-To: <CAA=qGJkS7Ofc5_MK24Dks7PPh1Ak1sYQ=vd=iVPCyfrED=xJNw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <92bfd09a-1cfa-fde4-30b4-26173498c674@btinternet.com>
	<CAA=qGJkS7Ofc5_MK24Dks7PPh1Ak1sYQ=vd=iVPCyfrED=xJNw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <05D740F3-DEEB-41DC-ACF9-1F722ECC50CA@mac.com>

Likewise, I don?t know the keyboard, but I would expect to be able to feed the output into your PC and then monitor the keyboard from the PC output during recording. 

The jack input to your system may not accept the level from the keyboard, so you may need an analogue to digital adaptor, then feed the PC via USB. 

Mike G

> On 18 Nov 2018, at 21:30, Keith Wicks via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> I'm not familiar with this keyboard but, if you connect it to a compatible stereo system, that should provide separate monitoring and recording outputs. You could use your computer to record the performance as an mp3 or, better still, in an uncompressed format.
> 
> 
>> On Sun, 18 Nov 2018 at 20:01, dave.mdv via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
>> My wife would like to record from her Yamaha DGX-200 keyboard and put it 
>> onto a stick to sing to at a concert. The keyboard only has one 
>> stereo-jack output for cans or stereo system and cuts the internal 
>> speakers when used. Obviously, it would be necessary to hear what she is 
>> playing while recording. Any ideas? I was thinking that we really need 
>> two isolated outputs in case the cans corrupt the recording feed to the 
>> ?stick or ?card. MP3 recorders are cheap and easy but would they do what 
>> I want? The alternative is to do what she has done before is to put a 
>> microphone over top and record onto a cassette recorder in mono(!) i.e. 
>> not hi-fi! This is not a professional event! Cheers, Dave
>> 
>> -- 
>> Tech1 mailing list
>> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
>> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk
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From mibridge at mac.com  Sun Nov 18 17:15:30 2018
From: mibridge at mac.com (Mike Giles)
Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2018 23:15:30 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Peter Kay
Message-ID: <3BC83AA1-9BF3-4C03-9AB1-F9389D1F7143@mac.com>

Just seen the Peter Kay CiN number at the end of his Comedy Shuffle - not sure when it was done as I?ve not seen it before. For those who haven?t seen it either, it?s a conglomeration of every animated kids programme characters you can imagine, from Andy Pandy to the Teletubbies and beyond, performing three numbers, (I think) sometimes in groups, sometimes all together. How on earth do they achieve that? It can?t have been stop animation- that would have taken years, but I would think that even with current computer animation it would have been a job and a half. However achieved, it was most entertaining - even for a wrinkly watching on his own - kids must have loved it. Worth finding it on iPlayer, or I imagine YouTube will have it. 

Mike G

From davidvbrunt at gmail.com  Sun Nov 18 17:35:24 2018
From: davidvbrunt at gmail.com (David Brunt)
Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2018 23:35:24 -0000
Subject: [Tech1] Peter Kay
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Message-ID: <77117DAD366649E9B7C1AD48C27447F6@AdminPC>

It was for Children in Need 2009.

Took about two years to do, animation took about nine months.

Got to a well deserved chart position of #1. For a week.

Much more about it here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Official_BBC_Children_in_Need_Medley



-----Original Message----- 
From: Mike Giles via Tech1
Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2018 11:15 PM
To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
Subject: [Tech1] Peter Kay

Just seen the Peter Kay CiN number at the end of his Comedy Shuffle - not 
sure when it was done as I?ve not seen it before. For those who haven?t seen 
it either, it?s a conglomeration of every animated kids programme characters 
you can imagine, from Andy Pandy to the Teletubbies and beyond, performing 
three numbers, (I think) sometimes in groups, sometimes all together. How on 
earth do they achieve that? It can?t have been stop animation- that would 
have taken years, but I would think that even with current computer 
animation it would have been a job and a half. However achieved, it was most 
entertaining - even for a wrinkly watching on his own - kids must have loved 
it. Worth finding it on iPlayer, or I imagine YouTube will have it.

Mike G
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From waresound at msn.com  Sun Nov 18 17:38:42 2018
From: waresound at msn.com (Nick Ware)
Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2018 23:38:42 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] digital keyboard
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References: <92bfd09a-1cfa-fde4-30b4-26173498c674@btinternet.com>
Message-ID: <VI1P192MB0271447EEDBB1CCB8F58AD07A7DF0@VI1P192MB0271.EURP192.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>

Assuming you are recording onto a computer, have a look at the Behringer UCA222 USB interface on Amazon Prime @ ?17.00.
Jack to phono leads from the same source.
UCA222 comes complete with Audacity recording and editing software.
Monitor off the computer?s headphone output (or the UCA222).
I assume, since you mention a USB stick, you?ve got the playback sorted already.
Cheers,
Nick.
Sent from my iPad

On 18 Nov 2018, at 20:01, dave.mdv via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk<mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>> wrote:

My wife would like to record from her Yamaha DGX-200 keyboard and put it onto a stick to sing to at a concert. The keyboard only has one stereo-jack output for cans or stereo system and cuts the internal speakers when used. Obviously, it would be necessary to hear what she is playing while recording. Any ideas? I was thinking that we really need two isolated outputs in case the cans corrupt the recording feed to the ?stick or ?card. MP3 recorders are cheap and easy but would they do what I want? The alternative is to do what she has done before is to put a microphone over top and record onto a cassette recorder in mono(!) i.e. not hi-fi! This is not a professional event! Cheers, Dave

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From mibridge at mac.com  Sun Nov 18 17:44:10 2018
From: mibridge at mac.com (Mike Giles)
Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2018 23:44:10 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Peter Kay
In-Reply-To: <77117DAD366649E9B7C1AD48C27447F6@AdminPC>
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	<77117DAD366649E9B7C1AD48C27447F6@AdminPC>
Message-ID: <68DF5885-4AD5-42BF-8250-9C99310FC245@mac.com>

The Wiki entry seems to suggest it was mostly, if not all stop motion animation - the mind boggles!

Mike G

> On 18 Nov 2018, at 23:35, David Brunt <davidvbrunt at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> It was for Children in Need 2009.
> 
> Took about two years to do, animation took about nine months.
> 
> Got to a well deserved chart position of #1. For a week.
> 
> Much more about it here:
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Official_BBC_Children_in_Need_Medley
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message----- From: Mike Giles via Tech1
> Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2018 11:15 PM
> To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
> Subject: [Tech1] Peter Kay
> 
> Just seen the Peter Kay CiN number at the end of his Comedy Shuffle - not sure when it was done as I?ve not seen it before. For those who haven?t seen it either, it?s a conglomeration of every animated kids programme characters you can imagine, from Andy Pandy to the Teletubbies and beyond, performing three numbers, (I think) sometimes in groups, sometimes all together. How on earth do they achieve that? It can?t have been stop animation- that would have taken years, but I would think that even with current computer animation it would have been a job and a half. However achieved, it was most entertaining - even for a wrinkly watching on his own - kids must have loved it. Worth finding it on iPlayer, or I imagine YouTube will have it.
> 
> Mike G
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From graeme.wall at icloud.com  Mon Nov 19 02:57:20 2018
From: graeme.wall at icloud.com (Graeme Wall)
Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2018 08:57:20 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Fawlty Towers pic
In-Reply-To: <412669488.4090393.1542561910404@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <412669488.4090393.1542561910404.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
	<412669488.4090393.1542561910404@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <7F1236EC-6894-4A08-BFBE-7CC567A84E35@icloud.com>

I cable-cleared on a couple of episodes if that counts.

Graeme Wall




> On 18 Nov 2018, at 17:25, Gary Critcher via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> here's a pic I've just picked up off of Twitter.....did anyone here work on it?
> 
> all the best,
>              Gary
> <LordMelburry.jpg>-- 
> Tech1 mailing list
> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk



From dave.mdv at btinternet.com  Mon Nov 19 03:04:05 2018
From: dave.mdv at btinternet.com (dave.mdv)
Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2018 09:04:05 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Fawlty Towers pic
In-Reply-To: <7F1236EC-6894-4A08-BFBE-7CC567A84E35@icloud.com>
References: <412669488.4090393.1542561910404.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
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	<7F1236EC-6894-4A08-BFBE-7CC567A84E35@icloud.com>
Message-ID: <7a9db27d-9ccf-cddf-545f-e0f2b6afe792@btinternet.com>

.... and I did the boom on one in TC1! Cheers, Dave


From dnewbitt at fireflyuk.net  Mon Nov 19 04:13:01 2018
From: dnewbitt at fireflyuk.net (David Newbitt)
Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2018 10:13:01 -0000
Subject: [Tech1] Fawlty Towers pic
Message-ID: <618E5D5F3FBB49E586430CC00515769E@DESKTOP6GGCRV1>

The Wikipedia entry for Fawlty Towers has much detailed info and anecdotes. I particularly liked Cleese?s recollection of Jimmy Gilbert turning down the initial episode with the quote ?full of clich?d situations and stereotypical characters and I cannot see it as being anything other than a disaster?. With the ?Frost Report? ?Two Ronnies? ?Last of the Summer Wine? and ?Likely Lads? under his belt I guess he was entitled to one misjudgement.

Dave Newbitt - new kid on the block (1962-1979 vintage).
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From dave at davesound.co.uk  Mon Nov 19 04:28:31 2018
From: dave at davesound.co.uk (Dave Plowman)
Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2018 10:28:31 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [Tech1] digital keyboard
In-Reply-To: <92bfd09a-1cfa-fde4-30b4-26173498c674@btinternet.com>
References: <92bfd09a-1cfa-fde4-30b4-26173498c674@btinternet.com>
Message-ID: <575959c901dave@davesound.co.uk>

In article <92bfd09a-1cfa-fde4-30b4-26173498c674 at btinternet.com>,
   dave.mdv via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> My wife would like to record from her Yamaha DGX-200 keyboard and put it 
> onto a stick to sing to at a concert. The keyboard only has one 
> stereo-jack output for cans or stereo system and cuts the internal 
> speakers when used. Obviously, it would be necessary to hear what she is 
> playing while recording. Any ideas? I was thinking that we really need 
> two isolated outputs in case the cans corrupt the recording feed to the 
> ?stick or ?card. MP3 recorders are cheap and easy but would they do what 
> I want? The alternative is to do what she has done before is to put a 
> microphone over top and record onto a cassette recorder in mono(!) i.e. 
> not hi-fi! This is not a professional event! Cheers, Dave

Plug it into your Hi-Fi and record in the way you'd do with anything from
that? If you need it on a memory stick, connect your PC line in to the
record out on the HI-Fi?

-- 
*I'd kill for a Nobel Peace Prize *

    Dave Plowman     dave at davesound.co.uk     London SW 12
    


From j at howell61.f9.co.uk  Mon Nov 19 04:59:52 2018
From: j at howell61.f9.co.uk (John Howell)
Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2018 10:59:52 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Fawlty Towers pic
In-Reply-To: <412669488.4090393.1542561910404@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <412669488.4090393.1542561910404.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
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Message-ID: <69a0440d-73d5-04dd-6479-4748ced0c80d@howell61.f9.co.uk>

.........and I was Sound Supervisor on 5 of them. The late Mike Jones 
did the others.

John H.



On 18/11/2018 17:25, Gary Critcher via Tech1 wrote:
> here's a pic I've just picked up off of Twitter.....did anyone here 
> work on it?
>
> all the best,
> ? ? ?Gary
>
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From bernie833 at gmail.com  Mon Nov 19 05:08:54 2018
From: bernie833 at gmail.com (Bernard Newnham)
Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2018 11:08:54 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Peter Kay
In-Reply-To: <3BC83AA1-9BF3-4C03-9AB1-F9389D1F7143@mac.com>
References: <3BC83AA1-9BF3-4C03-9AB1-F9389D1F7143@mac.com>
Message-ID: <732e6537-595a-2e27-5ac5-14a73a2d53a4@gmail.com>

When I worked in BBC promotions, and we weren't given silly budgets like 
now, we used to look at stuff and say "If we had to do that it would 
cost a fortune and take forever", and then when we found out how it was 
done it did cost a fortune and take forever.?? One thing we couldn't 
work out was the changing faces in Michael Jackson's Black or White. But 
we'd never heard of morphing.

B



On 18/11/2018 23:15, Mike Giles via Tech1 wrote:
> Just seen the Peter Kay CiN number at the end of his Comedy Shuffle - not sure when it was done as I?ve not seen it before. For those who haven?t seen it either, it?s a conglomeration of every animated kids programme characters you can imagine, from Andy Pandy to the Teletubbies and beyond, performing three numbers, (I think) sometimes in groups, sometimes all together. How on earth do they achieve that? It can?t have been stop animation- that would have taken years, but I would think that even with current computer animation it would have been a job and a half. However achieved, it was most entertaining - even for a wrinkly watching on his own - kids must have loved it. Worth finding it on iPlayer, or I imagine YouTube will have it.
>
> Mike G

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From chris.booth at froyle.com  Mon Nov 19 05:53:07 2018
From: chris.booth at froyle.com (chris.booth at froyle.com)
Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2018 11:53:07 -0000
Subject: [Tech1] Fawlty Towers pic
In-Reply-To: <69a0440d-73d5-04dd-6479-4748ced0c80d@howell61.f9.co.uk>
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When the first edition of the book of the Fawlty Towers scripts came out, I was credited as VT editor along with Pete Dunkley and Derek Orman.
Our sole involvements were:-
I made the chef?s vomit less obvious with a  bit of tightening,
Pete D changed the clocks on the front of several of them, and 
Derek O repaired a hole in the control track on another.
It was at the time that the paperwork that lived with tapes was generally in order of work done, so the original editor?s work was on the bottom sheet.
By the time the book was reprinted, a bit more research had been done!!! 
----------
Chris B

From: John Howell via Tech1 
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2018 10:59 AM
To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk 
Subject: Re: [Tech1] Fawlty Towers pic

.........and I was Sound Supervisor on 5 of them. The late Mike Jones did the others.

John H.




On 18/11/2018 17:25, Gary Critcher via Tech1 wrote:

  here's a pic I've just picked up off of Twitter.....did anyone here work on it?

  all the best,
               Gary

   





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From chris.booth at froyle.com  Mon Nov 19 06:00:01 2018
From: chris.booth at froyle.com (chris.booth at froyle.com)
Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2018 12:00:01 -0000
Subject: [Tech1] Fawlty Towers
Message-ID: <D137AE2F3A99497C8718D145788865C8@Archiveupgrade>

Further Investigation in IMDB gives the VT Editors as Howard Dell and Neil Pittaway, which ties in with my memories. 
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From alec.bray.2 at gmail.com  Mon Nov 19 07:37:45 2018
From: alec.bray.2 at gmail.com (Alec Bray)
Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2018 13:37:45 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] For those of you who like steam engines ...
Message-ID: <803f05b0-73cc-d09f-1611-920cecc6a429@gmail.com>

Hello,

On a beautifully sunny Sunday afternoon, a Great Western "Saint" basks 
alongside Didcot Engine Shed ...


This is the occasion of the first public appearance of the Great Western 
Society's rebuilt and reworked "Saint" locomotive.? Some members asked 
for it to be in black livery, but most want in in the elaborate GWR 
lined green.? That repaint will happen in the new year when the last of 
the fittings have been applied.

The "new" locomotive is being back-converted from 4942 "Maindy Hall" 
which was in scrapyard condition: this is appropriate as the original 
4900 class prototype of 1925 was converted from 2900 class engine "Saint 
Martin". As this is a working "fudge" and not a replica it will be? 
numbered 2999 as a new member of the class, with the name "lady of Legend".

It was displayed this weekend with original name and numberplates for 
"Redgauntlet"? on one side and "Lady of Quality" on the other.


Enjoy!


-- 

Best Regards

Alec

Alec Bray

alec.bray.2 at gmail.com
mob:    07789 561 346
home:   0118 981 7502

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From bernie833 at gmail.com  Mon Nov 19 08:23:53 2018
From: bernie833 at gmail.com (Bernard Newnham)
Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2018 14:23:53 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] For those of you who like steam engines ...
In-Reply-To: <803f05b0-73cc-d09f-1611-920cecc6a429@gmail.com>
References: <803f05b0-73cc-d09f-1611-920cecc6a429@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <cceb08f5-29e4-05a2-8d97-8a1cfe586679@gmail.com>

It really doesn't right in black

B



On 19/11/2018 13:37, Alec Bray via Tech1 wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> On a beautifully sunny Sunday afternoon, a Great Western "Saint" basks 
> alongside Didcot Engine Shed ...
>
>
> This is the occasion of the first public appearance of the Great 
> Western Society's rebuilt and reworked "Saint" locomotive.? Some 
> members asked for it to be in black livery, but most want in in the 
> elaborate GWR lined green.? That repaint will happen in the new year 
> when the last of the fittings have been applied.
>
> The "new" locomotive is being back-converted from 4942 "Maindy Hall" 
> which was in scrapyard condition: this is appropriate as the original 
> 4900 class prototype of 1925 was converted from 2900 class engine 
> "Saint Martin". As this is a working "fudge" and not a replica it will 
> be? numbered 2999 as a new member of the class, with the name "lady of 
> Legend".
>
> It was displayed this weekend with original name and numberplates for 
> "Redgauntlet"? on one side and "Lady of Quality" on the other.
>
>
> Enjoy!
>
>
> -- 
>
> Best Regards
>
> Alec
>
> Alec Bray
>
> alec.bray.2 at gmail.com
> mob:    07789 561 346
> home:   0118 981 7502
>

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From dave.thompson.mail at gmail.com  Mon Nov 19 08:58:40 2018
From: dave.thompson.mail at gmail.com (David Thompson)
Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2018 14:58:40 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Premiere Pro
Message-ID: <8F12B49C-2C18-484B-AC93-FE08C4AE6856@gmail.com>

After years of using FCP Studio 2 the Mac driving it has finally died, so rather than buying FCPX I decided to accept the offer
of my son and piggy-back on his Adobe licence which offers Premiere Pro.
The picture bit is fairly OK, but the audio is desperately annoying. Is there anybody out there who has some experience with Premiere Pro CC?
In particular I am struggling with trying to remove keyframe muting, audio transitions, and faders that have a mind of their own. Good coming from a ?sound man?!

Regards

Dave Thompson

From peter.neill at icloud.com  Mon Nov 19 09:04:40 2018
From: peter.neill at icloud.com (Peter Neill)
Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2018 15:04:40 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Premiere Pro
In-Reply-To: <8F12B49C-2C18-484B-AC93-FE08C4AE6856@gmail.com>
References: <8F12B49C-2C18-484B-AC93-FE08C4AE6856@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <49ACDD9D-4564-4951-9379-DBBBF8C150E9@icloud.com>

I think you?d have been equally frustrated with FCP X

The BBC English Regions is only now switching to X - again, because the hardware is dying and I, for one, am finding the audio counter-intuitive. Just adding a simple mix seems convoluted and as for editing the pictures and sound separately!
Maybe it?s just me, but I?m glad that I have an elderly MacBook at home that still runs FCP 7

Peter





> On 19 Nov 2018, at 14:58, David Thompson via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> After years of using FCP Studio 2 the Mac driving it has finally died, so rather than buying FCPX I decided to accept the offer
> of my son and piggy-back on his Adobe licence which offers Premiere Pro.
> The picture bit is fairly OK, but the audio is desperately annoying. Is there anybody out there who has some experience with Premiere Pro CC?
> In particular I am struggling with trying to remove keyframe muting, audio transitions, and faders that have a mind of their own. Good coming from a ?sound man?!
> 
> Regards
> 
> Dave Thompson
> -- 
> Tech1 mailing list
> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
> http://track.smtpsendemail.com/20919/c?p=BPuvWzt_UUBtokvYGn8j4tnOvrFuV2q4aRHEhFKWYyXOjWhiKeMPI_2n0GsIrL2Ox9USK0zatVOYParUDj-F_kOWY7Jurg4Yc92Wa6f6ukHeQpQhro7laKFuhJmY-j_PwT11vtQ1zeqLVABS9yO0b8uTfQVZvUV8AGNaaNNYpeQ=

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From dave.mdv at btinternet.com  Mon Nov 19 09:44:58 2018
From: dave.mdv at btinternet.com (dave.mdv)
Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2018 15:44:58 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] A lot to read!
Message-ID: <5a49f646-a370-f9df-671d-6a9dbdabf51e@btinternet.com>

https://www.nic.org.uk/publications/national-infrastructure-assessment-2018/ 
- nice to know that they are aiming to get the whole country onto full 
fibre (d/l 1000 Mb/s!) by 2033, I don't think I'll be here for it! 
Cheers, Dave


From j at howell61.f9.co.uk  Mon Nov 19 09:50:10 2018
From: j at howell61.f9.co.uk (John Howell)
Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2018 15:50:10 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] So,,,,Another annoyance
Message-ID: <e8356d8f-106c-0e15-d8ff-12f118de70b9@howell61.f9.co.uk>

Has anyone noticed a new (?) annoyance, the appearance of "Yeah-no"?

It usually appears at the start of a sentence but "yeah"s & "no"s can

pop up almost anywhere. Very occasionally it appears reversed as

"no-yeah". Curious!


John H.

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From vernon.dyer at btinternet.com  Mon Nov 19 10:48:30 2018
From: vernon.dyer at btinternet.com (vernon.dyer)
Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2018 16:48:30 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] For those of you who like steam engines ...
Message-ID: <axy488803dvlj3fsybd3ch8q.1542646110459@email.android.com>

Yes, GWR green!?Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.-------- Original message --------From: Bernard Newnham via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> Date: 19/11/2018  14:23  (GMT+00:00) To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk Subject: Re: [Tech1] For those of you who like steam engines ... 
    It really doesn't right in
      black
      
      B
      
      
    
    On 19/11/2018 13:37, Alec Bray via
      Tech1 wrote:
    
    
      
      Hello,
      On a beautifully sunny Sunday afternoon, a Great Western
        "Saint" basks alongside Didcot Engine Shed ...
      
      
      
      
      This is the occasion of the first public appearance of the
        Great Western Society's rebuilt and reworked "Saint"
        locomotive.? Some members asked for it to be in black livery,
        but most want in in the elaborate GWR lined green.? That repaint
        will happen in the new year when the last of the fittings have
        been applied.
      
      The "new" locomotive is being back-converted from 4942 "Maindy
        Hall" which was in scrapyard condition: this is appropriate as
        the original 4900 class prototype of 1925 was converted from
        2900 class engine "Saint Martin". As this is a working "fudge"
        and not a replica it will be? numbered 2999 as a new member of
        the class, with the name "lady of Legend". 
      
      It was displayed this weekend with original name and
        numberplates for "Redgauntlet"? on one side and "Lady of
        Quality" on the other.
      
      
      
      Enjoy!
      
      
      -- 

Best Regards

Alec

Alec Bray

alec.bray.2 at gmail.com
mob:    07789 561 346
home:   0118 981 7502
      
      
    
    
  
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From john at epi-centre.com  Mon Nov 19 10:55:37 2018
From: john at epi-centre.com (John Henshall)
Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2018 16:55:37 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Brexit - potential slanging matches
In-Reply-To: <4DD6BED6-9EB1-4329-8AB3-FD84A33D6609@mac.com>
References: <003301d47e82$b5255d00$1f701700$@soundsuper.co.uk>
	<d1f04172-24ed-6c7d-0dd4-5ba997230f80@gmail.com>
	<4DD6BED6-9EB1-4329-8AB3-FD84A33D6609@mac.com>
Message-ID: <8A8B4EC7-BEAD-4A95-81BF-93C5DE404820@epi-centre.com>

Count me out please!

Too much political conjecture on so-called ?news? programmes already.

jh


> On 17 Nov 2018, at 22:23, Mike Giles via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> 
> Count me in!
> 
> Mike G
> 
> 
> On 17 Nov 2018, at 16:08, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk <mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>> wrote:
> 
>> Let's no go there.  
>> 
>> I'm happy to create another forum for those who want to be political - techops-politics.......
>> 
>> B 
>> (I'm in charge!)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 17/11/2018 14:34, Robert Miles via Tech1 wrote:
>>> Ever wondered why so many Brits hate the EU?  Because the UK media have lied
>>> to the British public consistently and regularly since at least 1992....
>>> here's the evidence... 
>>> http://tinyurl.com/yd6uf55h <http://tinyurl.com/yd6uf55h>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I apologise for sullying this non-political form with that word, but most of
>>> us would call T.May a pig-headed woman, and we all know what David Cameron
>>> is reported to have done to a pig's head - perhaps he should be invited (ie.
>>> forced!) to come back and sort this mess out that he started! Cheers, Dave
>>> 
>> 
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From dnewbitt at fireflyuk.net  Mon Nov 19 11:12:31 2018
From: dnewbitt at fireflyuk.net (David Newbitt)
Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2018 17:12:31 -0000
Subject: [Tech1] For those of you who like steam engines ...
Message-ID: <6FA195F524884DFCAAD5788A52D793E5@DESKTOP6GGCRV1>

I think this 3 1/2? gauge model of one of the class rather supports Bernard?s contention.

    

Dave Newbitt.



From: Bernard Newnham via Tech1 
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2018 2:23 PM
To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk 
Subject: Re: [Tech1] For those of you who like steam engines ...

It really doesn't right in black

B
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From bernie833 at gmail.com  Mon Nov 19 12:14:19 2018
From: bernie833 at gmail.com (Bernard Newnham)
Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2018 18:14:19 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Premiere Pro
In-Reply-To: <8F12B49C-2C18-484B-AC93-FE08C4AE6856@gmail.com>
References: <8F12B49C-2C18-484B-AC93-FE08C4AE6856@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3e516d22-8a2c-4a00-aad6-090a9f361e66@gmail.com>

I have CS6, but I don't suppose it's changed.

I don't use the faders, they aren't like the real thing. Easier to use 
rubber banding on the timeline, and chequer-boarding the tracks.? Open 
up the audio track with the little arrow in the track controls, so that 
you can see the level line.? Select the pen tool and click where you 
want a keyframe. Pull up or down. To delete, right click on the keyframe 
and select delete.

To remove an audio transition when you've got a video/audio transition, 
Alt-click the audio transition to select just that, and then press the 
delete key.

I've mostly moved on to free Da Vinci Resolve now - 
https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/uk/products/davinciresolve/

B



On 19/11/2018 14:58, David Thompson via Tech1 wrote:
> After years of using FCP Studio 2 the Mac driving it has finally died, so rather than buying FCPX I decided to accept the offer
> of my son and piggy-back on his Adobe licence which offers Premiere Pro.
> The picture bit is fairly OK, but the audio is desperately annoying. Is there anybody out there who has some experience with Premiere Pro CC?
> In particular I am struggling with trying to remove keyframe muting, audio transitions, and faders that have a mind of their own. Good coming from a ?sound man?!
>
> Regards
>
> Dave Thompson

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From dave.mdv at btinternet.com  Mon Nov 19 14:01:20 2018
From: dave.mdv at btinternet.com (dave.mdv)
Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2018 20:01:20 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] For those of you who like steam engines ...
In-Reply-To: <6FA195F524884DFCAAD5788A52D793E5@DESKTOP6GGCRV1>
References: <6FA195F524884DFCAAD5788A52D793E5@DESKTOP6GGCRV1>
Message-ID: <3b8420be-22c3-51cd-81c8-0c2741a3264c@btinternet.com>

Nice picture Dave, did you make the model? I was pleased to see that you 
have found this forum, so many of our mates have passed away that it's 
nice to know you are still above ground, so to speak! Most of us have 
regular get-togethers to put the world to rights, although nothing seems 
to get any better! Hope to see you at one of the 'disorganised' 
meetings! Cheers, Dave Mundy


From geoffletch at gmail.com  Wed Nov 21 05:12:39 2018
From: geoffletch at gmail.com (Geoff Fletcher)
Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2018 11:12:39 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] For those of you who like steam engines ...
In-Reply-To: <3b8420be-22c3-51cd-81c8-0c2741a3264c@btinternet.com>
References: <6FA195F524884DFCAAD5788A52D793E5@DESKTOP6GGCRV1>
	<3b8420be-22c3-51cd-81c8-0c2741a3264c@btinternet.com>
Message-ID: <CAB99AB_7HRTKNG3WwYFoApF2u_tZ-LsJ28RRa0CGqo-_uf6+cg@mail.gmail.com>

Couple of lovely pics chaps. Did you make the model Dave N?
Geoff F

On Mon, 19 Nov 2018 at 20:01, dave.mdv via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
wrote:

> Nice picture Dave, did you make the model? I was pleased to see that you
> have found this forum, so many of our mates have passed away that it's
> nice to know you are still above ground, so to speak! Most of us have
> regular get-togethers to put the world to rights, although nothing seems
> to get any better! Hope to see you at one of the 'disorganised'
> meetings! Cheers, Dave Mundy
>
> --
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From dnewbitt at fireflyuk.net  Wed Nov 21 08:13:01 2018
From: dnewbitt at fireflyuk.net (David Newbitt)
Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2018 14:13:01 -0000
Subject: [Tech1] For those of you who like steam engines ...
Message-ID: <E05E24517D954F5C95BC23AD3F52AA20@DESKTOP6GGCRV1>

Hello Geoff F,

I?ve already got a bit lost in who sees what on the forum but I?ll no doubt wise up given time!

As I said to dave.mdv when he asked, I wish I had made it. I hugely admire the patience and skill
that goes into these things especially when the result sits on a 3 1/2? gauge track ? that?s a 
serious bit of kit.

I hunted about for the pic as, although I have a large collection of GWR loco images, I found 
nothing to show the colours well.

Can I take the opportunity to say hi to anyone whose recall facility still functions well enough to 
remember me?

Best wishes,

Dave Newbitt. 
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From dnewbitt at fireflyuk.net  Wed Nov 21 09:22:01 2018
From: dnewbitt at fireflyuk.net (David Newbitt)
Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2018 15:22:01 -0000
Subject: [Tech1] Chris Wilden
Message-ID: <988D4CDAA3774454879553B1E93E1249@DESKTOP6GGCRV1>

Dave Mundy has drawn my attention to the photo of Chris which Dave Denness had posted.

Chris Joined with me back in 1962 and we were on the same TO course- 13 I think it was.

Chris?s idea of heaven was a Fender Stratocaster ? he looked the part too as our very own
Hank Marvin. His home was Devon, mine was Taunton and the two of us got home at times 
courtesy of a lift with Keith Warren (Kingsbridge) who had a Standard 8. As we would hit 
Taunton first both Chris and Keith had the benefit of my mum?s home baking en route.

In case anyone hasn?t come across it before here?s Chris with Rex Palmer (nearest the camera) 
and Lance Andrew.



How?s that for a talent line up?!!

Dave Newbitt.

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From j at howell61.f9.co.uk  Wed Nov 21 09:53:40 2018
From: j at howell61.f9.co.uk (John Howell)
Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2018 15:53:40 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] For those of you who like steam engines ...
In-Reply-To: <E05E24517D954F5C95BC23AD3F52AA20@DESKTOP6GGCRV1>
References: <E05E24517D954F5C95BC23AD3F52AA20@DESKTOP6GGCRV1>
Message-ID: <169ba271-8fc4-b498-4b8a-6b361e28287a@howell61.f9.co.uk>

Well hi Dave,

I remember you as quite a sharp wit! After a three day play in TC4 John 
Staple was chatting to you as we were trying to de-rig, I was behind the 
cyc. trying to dismantle a C28 and the cable was stuck under something. 
I yelled "Can you free the cable Dave?" and you instantly replied "I 
can't, it's Stapled to the floor".

I have a photo somewhere of you & Chris Wilden building a valve 
amplifier in one of the huts at Woodnorton. I think it was a Stern-Clyne 
kit for a Mullard preamp, happy days, the course was TO15.

Regards,

John H.

aka Hibou.


On 21/11/2018 14:13, David Newbitt via Tech1 wrote:
> Hello Geoff F,
> I?ve already got a bit lost in who sees what on the forum but I?ll no 
> doubt wise up given time!
> As I said to dave.mdv when he asked, I wish I had made it. I hugely 
> admire the patience and skill
> that goes into these things especially when the result sits on a 3 
> 1/2? gauge track ? that?s a
> serious bit of kit.
> I hunted about for the pic as, although I have a large collection of 
> GWR loco images, I found
> nothing to show the colours well.
> Can I take the opportunity to say hi to anyone whose recall facility 
> still functions well enough to
> remember me?
> Best wishes,
> Dave Newbitt.
>
>

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From dnewbitt at fireflyuk.net  Wed Nov 21 11:52:55 2018
From: dnewbitt at fireflyuk.net (David Newbitt)
Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2018 17:52:55 -0000
Subject: [Tech1] Friends and workmates from long ago
Message-ID: <9F6455284EDC46CF92D432998BC2A81F@DESKTOP6GGCRV1>

It?s less than two weeks since I signed up to the mailing list (courtesy of Pat Heigham who
was good enough to organise it for me).

Several of you have already been kind enough to respond so thank you to Dave Mundy,
Pete Fletcher, John Howell (still remembered as Hibou!) and Peter Neill. It gives me the
greatest of pleasure to remember you all. John Staple who featured in the anecdote Hibou
dredged from his memory bank about me was someone I knew well on a personal level 
and, as many others will no doubt attest, could well form the subject of a dedicated website.
Or tragi-comedy come to that!

How many of you still find it difficult to come to terms with the demise of TC? When I got to 
reminiscing a little with Pat Heigham I mentioned to him that I had a large file of the TC complex 
from 1958 when Higgs and Hill were bulding it. It?s BBC copyright but I used a file transfer to get 
a copy to him (28.7 Meg JPEG so you can zoom in to really HD detail). I could do the same again 
if anyone is interested. There is something about poring over it that reinforces the anger that 
such decisions were taken. Iconic doesn?t do it justice, it can never be replaced ? another national
treasure lost for ever. High-ups  who know the cost of everything and the value of nothing .... 

Thank you Bernard for wising me up about the vagaries of the email list ? also Peter Neill ditto.

Best wishes to all,

Dave Newbitt.
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From dave.mdv at btinternet.com  Wed Nov 21 12:02:36 2018
From: dave.mdv at btinternet.com (dave.mdv)
Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2018 18:02:36 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Friends and workmates from long ago
In-Reply-To: <9F6455284EDC46CF92D432998BC2A81F@DESKTOP6GGCRV1>
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I think you mean Geoff Fletcher - sadly, Pete's funeral was a few months 
ago. Cheers, Dave


From dnewbitt at fireflyuk.net  Wed Nov 21 12:27:12 2018
From: dnewbitt at fireflyuk.net (David Newbitt)
Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2018 18:27:12 -0000
Subject: [Tech1] Friends and workmates from long ago
Message-ID: <CEE635F6C71741E3B50589B0619AF4E3@DESKTOP6GGCRV1>

I am mortified that I wrote Pete Fletcher in error for Geoff. I am very sorry ? the more so
as I understand Pete has only recently died. I sincerely hope the mistake will not have caused
distress anywhere ? it really was inadvertent.

Dave N.
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From geoffletch at gmail.com  Wed Nov 21 12:49:50 2018
From: geoffletch at gmail.com (Geoff Fletcher)
Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2018 18:49:50 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Friends and workmates from long ago
In-Reply-To: <CEE635F6C71741E3B50589B0619AF4E3@DESKTOP6GGCRV1>
References: <CEE635F6C71741E3B50589B0619AF4E3@DESKTOP6GGCRV1>
Message-ID: <CAB99AB_UaD=4Hh_WQTdp65gfBSt5UxLfX40sjJ=UwC-GpEXY5Q@mail.gmail.com>

For my part - not to worry Dave. Natural mistake Pete being a Sound guy.
The old grey cells making unconscious links.
Geoff F

On Wed, 21 Nov 2018 at 18:27, David Newbitt via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
wrote:

> I am mortified that I wrote Pete Fletcher in error for Geoff. I am very
> sorry ? the more so
> as I understand Pete has only recently died. I sincerely hope the mistake
> will not have caused
> distress anywhere ? it really was inadvertent.
>
> Dave N.
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From mikej at bmanor.co.uk  Wed Nov 21 15:32:05 2018
From: mikej at bmanor.co.uk (Mike Jordan)
Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2018 21:32:05 -0000
Subject: [Tech1] More on the end of CAV
Message-ID: <EB015CD7E0334F38895EA5903EBF98C7@Gigabyte>

May be a bit OT for this site but good stuff!

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6413813/BBC-moves-former-stately-home-used-spy-Nazis.html

A bit ?Daily Mail? in the comments section but interesting nevertheless.
I wonder where the foreign service reception will be carried out in London and where the archives are due to go to?
I guess all foreign stuff now is internet based anyway.
And does todays BBC care about archives other than political ones (certainly not technical things ? that is up to people like us and APTS etc)

Mike Jordan
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From bernie833 at gmail.com  Wed Nov 21 16:05:32 2018
From: bernie833 at gmail.com (Bernard Newnham)
Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2018 22:05:32 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Course pic
Message-ID: <95e21665-b88f-bd14-71d0-dd4fb59b735b@gmail.com>

Barbara Franc posted this on Facebook, but it isn't TO21. If you were 
there, what course was it?

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From mibridge at mac.com  Wed Nov 21 16:48:09 2018
From: mibridge at mac.com (Mike Giles)
Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2018 22:48:09 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Course pic
In-Reply-To: <95e21665-b88f-bd14-71d0-dd4fb59b735b@gmail.com>
References: <95e21665-b88f-bd14-71d0-dd4fb59b735b@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <002B9D0B-8327-44A4-BAD1-4FC6CBC6EA30@mac.com>

Indeed , I was on TO21 and it wasn?t in January 1973 ~ more like March 1965 ~ but I would say those are definitely 70?s trousers!


Mike G



> On 21 Nov 2018, at 22:05, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk <mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>> wrote:
> 
> Barbara Franc posted this on Facebook, but it isn't TO21. If you were there, what course was it?
> 
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From geoffletch at gmail.com  Wed Nov 21 18:46:26 2018
From: geoffletch at gmail.com (Geoff Fletcher)
Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2018 00:46:26 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Course pic
In-Reply-To: <002B9D0B-8327-44A4-BAD1-4FC6CBC6EA30@mac.com>
References: <95e21665-b88f-bd14-71d0-dd4fb59b735b@gmail.com>
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Not TO19 either (April - July 1964).
Geoff F

On Wed, 21 Nov 2018 at 22:49, Mike Giles via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
wrote:

> Indeed , I was on TO21 and it wasn?t in January 1973 ~ more like March
> 1965 ~ but I would say those are definitely 70?s trousers!
>
>
> Mike G
>
>
>
> On 21 Nov 2018, at 22:05, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
> Barbara Franc posted this on Facebook, but it isn't TO21. If you were
> there, what course was it?
>
> <kngjpaallenlpbob.png>
>
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From ian.norman at armoor.co.uk  Thu Nov 22 03:07:16 2018
From: ian.norman at armoor.co.uk (Ian Norman)
Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2018 09:07:16 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Course pic
In-Reply-To: <CAB99AB-J45DBc+aNqLsbRxLmnCor1qBworkxjAnAcJGUcpVnAg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <95e21665-b88f-bd14-71d0-dd4fb59b735b@gmail.com>
	<002B9D0B-8327-44A4-BAD1-4FC6CBC6EA30@mac.com>
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Message-ID: <73cd1942-9c14-5e66-629a-9bf0c759de61@armoor.co.uk>

The course numbering changed at various times, but I don't know when.

I was on A51 in 1978, followed by TO11 in 1980.


Best regards

Ian Norman


On 22/11/2018 00:46, Geoff Fletcher via Tech1 wrote:
> Not TO19 either (April - July 1964).
> Geoff F
>
> On Wed, 21 Nov 2018 at 22:49, Mike Giles via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
> <mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>> wrote:
>
>     Indeed , I was on TO21 and it wasn?t in January 1973 ~ more like
>     March 1965 ~ but I would say those are definitely 70?s trousers!
>
>
>     Mike G
>
>
>
>>     On 21 Nov 2018, at 22:05, Bernard Newnham via Tech1
>>     <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk <mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>> wrote:
>>
>>     Barbara Franc posted this on Facebook, but it isn't TO21. If you
>>     were there, what course was it?
>>
>>     <kngjpaallenlpbob.png>
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From dave.mdv at btinternet.com  Thu Nov 22 05:18:11 2018
From: dave.mdv at btinternet.com (dave.mdv)
Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2018 11:18:11 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Course pic
In-Reply-To: <73cd1942-9c14-5e66-629a-9bf0c759de61@armoor.co.uk>
References: <95e21665-b88f-bd14-71d0-dd4fb59b735b@gmail.com>
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Sorry Ian, I was on TO11 from 31.7.61 until 3.11.61! Cheers, Dave
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From ian.hillson at gmail.com  Thu Nov 22 07:06:12 2018
From: ian.hillson at gmail.com (Ian H)
Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2018 13:06:12 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Course pic
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I tried bbceng.info but no luck - they look young enough to be A Course
(1970's)
I did find Nick Roast's A72 course though ?
[image: A72.jpg]
https://www.bbceng.info/Information/coursepics/a-eng-tv/a-eng-tv.htm

On Wed, Nov 21, 2018 at 10:06 PM Bernard Newnham via Tech1 <
tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:

> Barbara Franc posted this on Facebook, but it isn't TO21. If you were
> there, what course was it?
>
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From dave.mdv at btinternet.com  Thu Nov 22 14:05:04 2018
From: dave.mdv at btinternet.com (dave.mdv)
Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2018 20:05:04 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] TO 11
Message-ID: <946d24fd-98e1-f96c-968f-3029acea6b11@btinternet.com>

I haven't been able to trace the future careers of many of the 
attendees. Some I know about, Keith Wicks and I met again at the 
'disorganiseds' thanks to Bernie's website, Trevor Vaisey (my room mate 
in D block) is a friend of Geoff Fletcher of this parish, and we have 
swopped e-mails recently, he was also a cameraperson at Anglia. Ron 
Sproston was an SA at TVC, transferred to Manchester and sadly died 
alone. Peter Copeland ended up at the British Library as Head of the 
National Sound Archive and has a whole Wikipedia page to himself!, he 
died in 2006 (photo attached).John Brown was a VS at TVC, lived near me 
in Hounslow and I went to his wedding. He left and went to the Isle of 
Wight to run a shop. Bob Stickland was an SA at TVC with me, Clive Bruce 
went to Manchester, Jimmy Guthrie (Glasgow, I think) married an Evesham 
girl (he was (in)famous for persuading Reg to get some Carlsberg 
Specials for the Club!), Chilly Ingles is still around in Edinburgh I 
believe, Derek Rae got terminated, after the course, for inflicting his 
black belt Judo knowledge on Chilly! Geoff Stafford was a TM in TVC 
Presentation at one time and ended up in Bristol where we used to meet 
on OBs in that region. Roger Kendall, my first room mate, before I 
evicted him!, became a lecturer at Wood Norton, I hear. Tony Giles, Mike 
Benson went to BH at first, the others I don't know about. Cheers, Dave
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From mibridge at mac.com  Thu Nov 22 16:01:43 2018
From: mibridge at mac.com (Mike Giles)
Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2018 22:01:43 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] TO 11
In-Reply-To: <946d24fd-98e1-f96c-968f-3029acea6b11@btinternet.com>
References: <946d24fd-98e1-f96c-968f-3029acea6b11@btinternet.com>
Message-ID: <7BFF689D-8EFE-4321-9F7E-D67EA7A8F82D@mac.com>

You were in illustrious company Dave. I worked with Peter Copeland in Bristol, sometimes in radio, but mostly in film dubbing. I didn?t appreciate how good a dubbing mixer he was until I worked in Sypher. Eccentric, to say the least, but brilliant. He developed diabetes, but for some time before it was diagnosed he devised Marmite jelly, and ate lots of it, which presumably provided a significant amount of his liquid intake. Peter was responsible for establishing a great deal of the protocol in handling the David Attenborough wildlife programmes, which followed throughout the prodigious Natural History output. 

Mike G

> On 22 Nov 2018, at 20:05, dave.mdv via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> I haven't been able to trace the future careers of many of the attendees. Some I know about, Keith Wicks and I met again at the 'disorganiseds' thanks to Bernie's website, Trevor Vaisey (my room mate in D block) is a friend of Geoff Fletcher of this parish, and we have swopped e-mails recently, he was also a cameraperson at Anglia. Ron Sproston was an SA at TVC, transferred to Manchester and sadly died alone. Peter Copeland ended up at the British Library as Head of the National Sound Archive and has a whole Wikipedia page to himself!, he died in 2006 (photo attached).John Brown was a VS at TVC, lived near me in Hounslow and I went to his wedding. He left and went to the Isle of Wight to run a shop. Bob Stickland was an SA at TVC with me, Clive Bruce went to Manchester, Jimmy Guthrie (Glasgow, I think) married an Evesham girl (he was (in)famous for persuading Reg to get some Carlsberg Specials for the Club!), Chilly Ingles is still around in Edinburgh I believe, Derek Rae got terminated, after the course, for inflicting his black belt Judo knowledge on Chilly! Geoff Stafford was a TM in TVC Presentation at one time and ended up in Bristol where we used to meet on OBs in that region. Roger Kendall, my first room mate, before I evicted him!, became a lecturer at Wood Norton, I hear. Tony Giles, Mike Benson went to BH at first, the others I don't know about. Cheers, Dave
> <Peter Copeland.jpg>
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From johna.bennett at talktalk.net  Thu Nov 22 21:12:30 2018
From: johna.bennett at talktalk.net (John Bennett)
Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2018 03:12:30 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Course pic
In-Reply-To: <95e21665-b88f-bd14-71d0-dd4fb59b735b@gmail.com>
References: <95e21665-b88f-bd14-71d0-dd4fb59b735b@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <af3dddf4-16f3-757f-7efc-b0c4eaf226e2@talktalk.net>

*I was on the first A course (A1) which started in June 1970, so this 
must be an A Course. Maybe A21?*

*Cheers? John*

*
*

**

On 21/11/2018 22:05, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 wrote:
> Barbara Franc posted this on Facebook, but it isn't TO21. If you were 
> there, what course was it?
>
>
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From relong at btinternet.com  Fri Nov 23 04:06:55 2018
From: relong at btinternet.com (Roger E Long)
Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2018 10:06:55 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] TO 11
In-Reply-To: <7BFF689D-8EFE-4321-9F7E-D67EA7A8F82D@mac.com>
References: <946d24fd-98e1-f96c-968f-3029acea6b11@btinternet.com>
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Message-ID: <DF03DECD-AEDC-4E7E-B3F6-CC6E6030427C@btinternet.com>

Jim Guthrie was a very successful Film Unit Manager at Bristol
He was responsible for its huge expansion  and entry into Network Drama, NHU,Music and Arts,Anthropology,TV features etc etc
He left in 91 to form Films @ Bristol one of the first indy post/dry hire companies in the UK
Peter was our Dubbing mixer for many years before he left for the National Sound Archive
We experimented with him to get a continuity voice over with field actuality PTC
This involved Attenborough standing up , using a Tram microphone in the  dubbing cubicle , rather than sitting in front of a AKG 451.
We also tried Tannoys in comparison to LS5/8s
He was always interested in our location problems and produced seamless results from our ridiculous globe trotting
Roger

> On 22 Nov 2018, at 22:01, Mike Giles via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> You were in illustrious company Dave. I worked with Peter Copeland in Bristol, sometimes in radio, but mostly in film dubbing. I didn?t appreciate how good a dubbing mixer he was until I worked in Sypher. Eccentric, to say the least, but brilliant. He developed diabetes, but for some time before it was diagnosed he devised Marmite jelly, and ate lots of it, which presumably provided a significant amount of his liquid intake. Peter was responsible for establishing a great deal of the protocol in handling the David Attenborough wildlife programmes, which followed throughout the prodigious Natural History output. 
> 
> Mike G
> 
>> On 22 Nov 2018, at 20:05, dave.mdv via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
>> 
>> I haven't been able to trace the future careers of many of the attendees. Some I know about, Keith Wicks and I met again at the 'disorganiseds' thanks to Bernie's website, Trevor Vaisey (my room mate in D block) is a friend of Geoff Fletcher of this parish, and we have swopped e-mails recently, he was also a cameraperson at Anglia. Ron Sproston was an SA at TVC, transferred to Manchester and sadly died alone. Peter Copeland ended up at the British Library as Head of the National Sound Archive and has a whole Wikipedia page to himself!, he died in 2006 (photo attached).John Brown was a VS at TVC, lived near me in Hounslow and I went to his wedding. He left and went to the Isle of Wight to run a shop. Bob Stickland was an SA at TVC with me, Clive Bruce went to Manchester, Jimmy Guthrie (Glasgow, I think) married an Evesham girl (he was (in)famous for persuading Reg to get some Carlsberg Specials for the Club!), Chilly Ingles is still around in Edinburgh I believe, Derek Rae got terminated, after the course, for inflicting his black belt Judo knowledge on Chilly! Geoff Stafford was a TM in TVC Presentation at one time and ended up in Bristol where we used to meet on OBs in that region. Roger Kendall, my first room mate, before I evicted him!, became a lecturer at Wood Norton, I hear. Tony Giles, Mike Benson went to BH at first, the others I don't know about. Cheers, Dave
>> <Peter Copeland.jpg>
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From graeme.wall at icloud.com  Fri Nov 23 06:43:56 2018
From: graeme.wall at icloud.com (Graeme Wall)
Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2018 12:43:56 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Course pic
In-Reply-To: <af3dddf4-16f3-757f-7efc-b0c4eaf226e2@talktalk.net>
References: <95e21665-b88f-bd14-71d0-dd4fb59b735b@gmail.com>
	<af3dddf4-16f3-757f-7efc-b0c4eaf226e2@talktalk.net>
Message-ID: <F95D6C91-0AC1-4952-99AB-1DF8ADA1CA3A@icloud.com>

Possibly the date rather than course number ie 21/1/73?
Graeme Wall




> On 23 Nov 2018, at 03:12, John Bennett via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> I was on the first A course (A1) which started in June 1970, so this must be an A Course. Maybe A21?
> 
> Cheers  John
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 21/11/2018 22:05, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 wrote:
>> Barbara Franc posted this on Facebook, but it isn't TO21. If you were there, what course was it?
>> 
>> <kngjpaallenlpbob.png> 
> 
> -- 
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> 07768 527518
> 
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From barrybonner119 at btinternet.com  Fri Nov 23 09:28:48 2018
From: barrybonner119 at btinternet.com (Barry Bonner)
Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2018 15:28:48 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Course pic
In-Reply-To: <F95D6C91-0AC1-4952-99AB-1DF8ADA1CA3A@icloud.com>
References: <95e21665-b88f-bd14-71d0-dd4fb59b735b@gmail.com>
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21/1/73 was a Sunday though!
Barry.



On 23 Nov 2018, at 12:43, Graeme Wall via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:

> Possibly the date rather than course number ie 21/1/73?
> Graeme Wall
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 23 Nov 2018, at 03:12, John Bennett via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
>> 
>> I was on the first A course (A1) which started in June 1970, so this must be an A Course. Maybe A21?
>> 
>> Cheers  John
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 21/11/2018 22:05, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 wrote:
>>> Barbara Franc posted this on Facebook, but it isn't TO21. If you were there, what course was it?
>>> 
>>> <kngjpaallenlpbob.png> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> John Bennett
>> 07768 527518
>> 
>> 
>> 	Virus-free. www.avast.com
>> -- 
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>> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
>> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk
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From tonycrake at gmail.com  Fri Nov 23 09:51:41 2018
From: tonycrake at gmail.com (Tony Crake)
Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2018 15:51:41 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Course pic
In-Reply-To: <04D2A5C0-B9EE-49D5-BEE0-651759832D15@btinternet.com>
References: <95e21665-b88f-bd14-71d0-dd4fb59b735b@gmail.com>
	<af3dddf4-16f3-757f-7efc-b0c4eaf226e2@talktalk.net>
	<F95D6C91-0AC1-4952-99AB-1DF8ADA1CA3A@icloud.com>
	<04D2A5C0-B9EE-49D5-BEE0-651759832D15@btinternet.com>
Message-ID: <B1844C15-BC35-4FB7-86CF-933373FB6F47@gmail.com>

Well chaps have I got the answer? Its.  TA 21  ! Have a look at Evesham eng info photos and there it is not TO Its TA

Tony crake



> On 23 Nov 2018, at 15:28, Barry Bonner via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> 21/1/73 was a Sunday though!
> Barry.
> 
> 
> 
> On 23 Nov 2018, at 12:43, Graeme Wall via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk <mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>> wrote:
> 
>> Possibly the date rather than course number ie 21/1/73?
>> Graeme Wall
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 23 Nov 2018, at 03:12, John Bennett via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk <mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I was on the first A course (A1) which started in June 1970, so this must be an A Course. Maybe A21?
>>> 
>>> Cheers  John
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 21/11/2018 22:05, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 wrote:
>>>> Barbara Franc posted this on Facebook, but it isn't TO21. If you were there, what course was it?
>>>> 
>>>> <kngjpaallenlpbob.png> 
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> John Bennett
>>> 07768 527518
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 	Virus-free. www.avast.com <http://www.avast.com/>
>>> -- 
>>> Tech1 mailing list
>>> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk <mailto:Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
>>> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk
>> 
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From bernie833 at gmail.com  Fri Nov 23 10:11:48 2018
From: bernie833 at gmail.com (Bernard Newnham)
Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2018 16:11:48 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Course pic
In-Reply-To: <B1844C15-BC35-4FB7-86CF-933373FB6F47@gmail.com>
References: <95e21665-b88f-bd14-71d0-dd4fb59b735b@gmail.com>
	<af3dddf4-16f3-757f-7efc-b0c4eaf226e2@talktalk.net>
	<F95D6C91-0AC1-4952-99AB-1DF8ADA1CA3A@icloud.com>
	<04D2A5C0-B9EE-49D5-BEE0-651759832D15@btinternet.com>
	<B1844C15-BC35-4FB7-86CF-933373FB6F47@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <79f74333-8a80-5c37-8310-79256c0ce999@ntlworld.com>

TA21 was 1966

B



On 23/11/2018 15:51, Tony Crake via Tech1 wrote:
> Well chaps have I got the answer? Its. ?TA 21 ?! Have a look at 
> Evesham eng info photos and there it is not TO Its TA
>
> Tony crake
>
>
>
>> On 23 Nov 2018, at 15:28, Barry Bonner via Tech1 
>> <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk <mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>> wrote:
>>
>> 21/1/73 was a Sunday though!
>> Barry.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 23 Nov 2018, at 12:43, Graeme Wall via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk 
>> <mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>> wrote:
>>
>>> Possibly the date rather than course number ie 21/1/73?
>>> Graeme Wall
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 23 Nov 2018, at 03:12, John Bennett via Tech1 
>>>> <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk <mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I was on the first A course (A1) which started in June 1970, so 
>>>> this must be an A Course. Maybe A21?
>>>>
>>>> Cheers ?John
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 21/11/2018 22:05, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 wrote:
>>>>> Barbara Franc posted this on Facebook, but it isn't TO21. If you 
>>>>> were there, what course was it?
>>>>>
>>>>> <kngjpaallenlpbob.png>
>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>>> John Bennett
>>>> 07768 527518
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Virus-free. www.avast.com <http://www.avast.com/>
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>>>> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk
>>>
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From tonycrake at gmail.com  Fri Nov 23 10:53:44 2018
From: tonycrake at gmail.com (Tony Crake)
Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2018 16:53:44 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Course pic
In-Reply-To: <79f74333-8a80-5c37-8310-79256c0ce999@ntlworld.com>
References: <95e21665-b88f-bd14-71d0-dd4fb59b735b@gmail.com>
	<af3dddf4-16f3-757f-7efc-b0c4eaf226e2@talktalk.net>
	<F95D6C91-0AC1-4952-99AB-1DF8ADA1CA3A@icloud.com>
	<04D2A5C0-B9EE-49D5-BEE0-651759832D15@btinternet.com>
	<B1844C15-BC35-4FB7-86CF-933373FB6F47@gmail.com>
	<79f74333-8a80-5c37-8310-79256c0ce999@ntlworld.com>
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I think disregard my last post would be the correct response..I blame my
new computer !

On Fri, 23 Nov 2018 at 16:12, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 <
tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:

> TA21 was 1966
>
> B
>
>
>
> On 23/11/2018 15:51, Tony Crake via Tech1 wrote:
>
> Well chaps have I got the answer? Its.  TA 21  ! Have a look at Evesham
> eng info photos and there it is not TO Its TA
>
> Tony crake
>
>
>
> On 23 Nov 2018, at 15:28, Barry Bonner via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
> 21/1/73 was a Sunday though!
> Barry.
>
>
>
> On 23 Nov 2018, at 12:43, Graeme Wall via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
> Possibly the date rather than course number ie 21/1/73?
> Graeme Wall
>
>
>
>
> On 23 Nov 2018, at 03:12, John Bennett via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
> I was on the first A course (A1) which started in June 1970, so this must
> be an A Course. Maybe A21?
>
> Cheers  John
>
>
>
>
>
> On 21/11/2018 22:05, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 wrote:
>
> Barbara Franc posted this on Facebook, but it isn't TO21. If you were
> there, what course was it?
>
> <kngjpaallenlpbob.png>
>
>
> --
> John Bennett
> 07768 527518
>
>
> Virus-free. www.avast.com
> --
> Tech1 mailing list
> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk
>
>
>
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>
>
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>
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From j at howell61.f9.co.uk  Fri Nov 23 11:16:43 2018
From: j at howell61.f9.co.uk (John Howell)
Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2018 17:16:43 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Course pic
In-Reply-To: <79f74333-8a80-5c37-8310-79256c0ce999@ntlworld.com>
References: <95e21665-b88f-bd14-71d0-dd4fb59b735b@gmail.com>
	<af3dddf4-16f3-757f-7efc-b0c4eaf226e2@talktalk.net>
	<F95D6C91-0AC1-4952-99AB-1DF8ADA1CA3A@icloud.com>
	<04D2A5C0-B9EE-49D5-BEE0-651759832D15@btinternet.com>
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Seeing as we're heading for some sort of timeline of courses here is 
TO15 which ran from 18th March to 24th May 1963. I have put names to 
people I'm sure about.

Hibou.



On 23/11/2018 16:11, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 wrote:
> TA21 was 1966
>
> B
>
>
>
> On 23/11/2018 15:51, Tony Crake via Tech1 wrote:
>> Well chaps have I got the answer? Its. ?TA 21 ?! Have a look at 
>> Evesham eng info photos and there it is not TO Its TA
>>
>> Tony crake
>>
>>
>>
>>> On 23 Nov 2018, at 15:28, Barry Bonner via Tech1 
>>> <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk <mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>> wrote:
>>>
>>> 21/1/73 was a Sunday though!
>>> Barry.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 23 Nov 2018, at 12:43, Graeme Wall via Tech1 
>>> <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk <mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Possibly the date rather than course number ie 21/1/73?
>>>> Graeme Wall
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On 23 Nov 2018, at 03:12, John Bennett via Tech1 
>>>>> <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk <mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I was on the first A course (A1) which started in June 1970, so 
>>>>> this must be an A Course. Maybe A21?
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers ?John
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 21/11/2018 22:05, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 wrote:
>>>>>> Barbara Franc posted this on Facebook, but it isn't TO21. If you 
>>>>>> were there, what course was it?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <kngjpaallenlpbob.png>
>>>>>
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> John Bennett
>>>>> 07768 527518
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Virus-free. www.avast.com <http://www.avast.com/>
>>>>> -- 
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>>>>> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk <mailto:Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
>>>>> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk
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From j at howell61.f9.co.uk  Fri Nov 23 11:31:56 2018
From: j at howell61.f9.co.uk (John Howell)
Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2018 17:31:56 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Course pic
In-Reply-To: <ef9537ff-3e05-3a8b-08ce-13aff3701d29@howell61.f9.co.uk>
References: <95e21665-b88f-bd14-71d0-dd4fb59b735b@gmail.com>
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.....and while I'm at it here is STO20 which ran from 31st January to 
22nd April 1966.

Hibou.



On 23/11/2018 17:16, John Howell via Tech1 wrote:
>
> Seeing as we're heading for some sort of timeline of courses here is 
> TO15 which ran from 18th March to 24th May 1963. I have put names to 
> people I'm sure about.
>
> Hibou.
>
>
>
> On 23/11/2018 16:11, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 wrote:
>> TA21 was 1966
>>
>> B
>>
>>
>>
>> On 23/11/2018 15:51, Tony Crake via Tech1 wrote:
>>> Well chaps have I got the answer? Its. ?TA 21 ?! Have a look at 
>>> Evesham eng info photos and there it is not TO Its TA
>>>
>>> Tony crake
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 23 Nov 2018, at 15:28, Barry Bonner via Tech1 
>>>> <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk <mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> 21/1/73 was a Sunday though!
>>>> Barry.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 23 Nov 2018, at 12:43, Graeme Wall via Tech1 
>>>> <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk <mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Possibly the date rather than course number ie 21/1/73?
>>>>> Graeme Wall
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 23 Nov 2018, at 03:12, John Bennett via Tech1 
>>>>>> <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk <mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I was on the first A course (A1) which started in June 1970, so 
>>>>>> this must be an A Course. Maybe A21?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers ?John
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 21/11/2018 22:05, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 wrote:
>>>>>>> Barbara Franc posted this on Facebook, but it isn't TO21. If you 
>>>>>>> were there, what course was it?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <kngjpaallenlpbob.png>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>> John Bennett
>>>>>> 07768 527518
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Virus-free. www.avast.com <http://www.avast.com/>
>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>> Tech1 mailing list
>>>>>> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk <mailto:Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
>>>>>> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk
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From bernie833 at gmail.com  Fri Nov 23 11:38:25 2018
From: bernie833 at gmail.com (Bernard Newnham)
Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2018 17:38:25 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Disorganised Christmas
Message-ID: <8b5dcf4d-4e9b-1be3-a3d3-2e0cf749882b@gmail.com>

Sadly Howard is unable to disorganise Christmas this year.? If anyone 
else would like to take on this task, please let us know.? Anyone can 
disorganise.

What you have to do -
1) Pick a venue
2) Pick a date
3) Ask if they can host us
4) Tell everyone.

If you pick one of the current venues this should take about ten 
minutes. Obviously doing a recce at a new place and testing beer etc 
could take longer.

If no-one else wants to do this, I propose an early new year 
disorganisation, which I shall sort.

cheers

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From chris at chriswoolf.co.uk  Fri Nov 23 11:49:15 2018
From: chris at chriswoolf.co.uk (Chris Woolf)
Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2018 17:49:15 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Course pic
In-Reply-To: <4cd6395e-5aaf-85e5-0487-56304092e50f@howell61.f9.co.uk>
References: <95e21665-b88f-bd14-71d0-dd4fb59b735b@gmail.com>
	<af3dddf4-16f3-757f-7efc-b0c4eaf226e2@talktalk.net>
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	<04D2A5C0-B9EE-49D5-BEE0-651759832D15@btinternet.com>
	<B1844C15-BC35-4FB7-86CF-933373FB6F47@gmail.com>
	<79f74333-8a80-5c37-8310-79256c0ce999@ntlworld.com>
	<ef9537ff-3e05-3a8b-08ce-13aff3701d29@howell61.f9.co.uk>
	<4cd6395e-5aaf-85e5-0487-56304092e50f@howell61.f9.co.uk>
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These pictures are a wonderful record of the social and sartorial image 
of "techies" across even just a handful of years;}

Chris Woolf


On 23/11/2018 17:31, John Howell via Tech1 wrote:
>
> .....and while I'm at it here is STO20 which ran from 31st January to 
> 22nd April 1966.
>
> Hibou.
>
>
>
> On 23/11/2018 17:16, John Howell via Tech1 wrote:
>>
>> Seeing as we're heading for some sort of timeline of courses here is 
>> TO15 which ran from 18th March to 24th May 1963. I have put names to 
>> people I'm sure about.
>>
>> Hibou.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 23/11/2018 16:11, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 wrote:
>>> TA21 was 1966
>>>
>>> B
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 23/11/2018 15:51, Tony Crake via Tech1 wrote:
>>>> Well chaps have I got the answer? Its. ?TA 21 ?! Have a look at 
>>>> Evesham eng info photos and there it is not TO Its TA
>>>>
>>>> Tony crake
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On 23 Nov 2018, at 15:28, Barry Bonner via Tech1 
>>>>> <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk <mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> 21/1/73 was a Sunday though!
>>>>> Barry.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 23 Nov 2018, at 12:43, Graeme Wall via Tech1 
>>>>> <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk <mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Possibly the date rather than course number ie 21/1/73?
>>>>>> Graeme Wall
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 23 Nov 2018, at 03:12, John Bennett via Tech1 
>>>>>>> <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk <mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I was on the first A course (A1) which started in June 1970, so 
>>>>>>> this must be an A Course. Maybe A21?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers ?John
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 21/11/2018 22:05, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 wrote:
>>>>>>>> Barbara Franc posted this on Facebook, but it isn't TO21. If 
>>>>>>>> you were there, what course was it?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <kngjpaallenlpbob.png>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>> John Bennett
>>>>>>> 07768 527518
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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From graeme.wall at icloud.com  Fri Nov 23 12:00:08 2018
From: graeme.wall at icloud.com (Graeme Wall)
Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2018 18:00:08 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Course pic
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References: <95e21665-b88f-bd14-71d0-dd4fb59b735b@gmail.com>
	<af3dddf4-16f3-757f-7efc-b0c4eaf226e2@talktalk.net>
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	<79f74333-8a80-5c37-8310-79256c0ce999@ntlworld.com>
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STO 31 from April 30th to Jul 28th 1969 though I?ve never seen a course photo.

Graeme Wall




> On 23 Nov 2018, at 17:31, John Howell via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> .....and while I'm at it here is STO20 which ran from 31st January to 22nd April 1966.
> 
> Hibou.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 23/11/2018 17:16, John Howell via Tech1 wrote:
>> Seeing as we're heading for some sort of timeline of courses here is TO15 which ran from 18th March to 24th May 1963. I have put names to people I'm sure about.
>> 
>> Hibou.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 23/11/2018 16:11, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 wrote:
>>> TA21 was 1966
>>> 
>>> B
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 23/11/2018 15:51, Tony Crake via Tech1 wrote:
>>>> Well chaps have I got the answer? Its.  TA 21  ! Have a look at Evesham eng info photos and there it is not TO Its TA
>>>> 
>>>> Tony crake
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 23 Nov 2018, at 15:28, Barry Bonner via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 21/1/73 was a Sunday though!
>>>>> Barry.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 23 Nov 2018, at 12:43, Graeme Wall via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Possibly the date rather than course number ie 21/1/73?
>>>>>> Graeme Wall
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 23 Nov 2018, at 03:12, John Bennett via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I was on the first A course (A1) which started in June 1970, so this must be an A Course. Maybe A21?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Cheers  John
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 21/11/2018 22:05, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 wrote:
>>>>>>>> Barbara Franc posted this on Facebook, but it isn't TO21. If you were there, what course was it?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> <kngjpaallenlpbob.png> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>> John Bennett
>>>>>>> 07768 527518
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
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>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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>> 
>> 
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From graeme.wall at icloud.com  Fri Nov 23 12:03:56 2018
From: graeme.wall at icloud.com (Graeme Wall)
Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2018 18:03:56 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Course pic
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References: <95e21665-b88f-bd14-71d0-dd4fb59b735b@gmail.com>
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Sorry, that?s TO 31 of course!

Graeme Wall




> On 23 Nov 2018, at 18:00, Graeme Wall via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> STO 31 from April 30th to Jul 28th 1969 though I?ve never seen a course photo.
> 
> Graeme Wall
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 23 Nov 2018, at 17:31, John Howell via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
>> 
>> .....and while I'm at it here is STO20 which ran from 31st January to 22nd April 1966.
>> 
>> Hibou.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 23/11/2018 17:16, John Howell via Tech1 wrote:
>>> Seeing as we're heading for some sort of timeline of courses here is TO15 which ran from 18th March to 24th May 1963. I have put names to people I'm sure about.
>>> 
>>> Hibou.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 23/11/2018 16:11, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 wrote:
>>>> TA21 was 1966
>>>> 
>>>> B
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 23/11/2018 15:51, Tony Crake via Tech1 wrote:
>>>>> Well chaps have I got the answer? Its.  TA 21  ! Have a look at Evesham eng info photos and there it is not TO Its TA
>>>>> 
>>>>> Tony crake
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 23 Nov 2018, at 15:28, Barry Bonner via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 21/1/73 was a Sunday though!
>>>>>> Barry.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 23 Nov 2018, at 12:43, Graeme Wall via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Possibly the date rather than course number ie 21/1/73?
>>>>>>> Graeme Wall
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 23 Nov 2018, at 03:12, John Bennett via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I was on the first A course (A1) which started in June 1970, so this must be an A Course. Maybe A21?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Cheers  John
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 21/11/2018 22:05, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Barbara Franc posted this on Facebook, but it isn't TO21. If you were there, what course was it?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> <kngjpaallenlpbob.png> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>>> John Bennett
>>>>>>>> 07768 527518
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 	Virus-free. www.avast.com
>>>>>>>> -- 
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>>>>>>>> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk
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>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
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From davidpcarter at btinternet.com  Fri Nov 23 12:18:05 2018
From: davidpcarter at btinternet.com (David Carter)
Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2018 18:18:05 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [Tech1] Course pic
Message-ID: <31126843.40233.1542997085414.JavaMail.defaultUser@defaultHost>

TO 31 Graeme.  I've never seen a photo either.

David


----Original message----
>From : tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
Date : 23/11/2018 - 18:00 (GMT)
To : j at howell61.f9.co.uk
Cc : tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
Subject : Re: [Tech1] Course pic

STO 31 from April 30th to Jul 28th 1969 though I?ve never seen a course photo.

Graeme Wall




> On 23 Nov 2018, at 17:31, John Howell via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> .....and while I'm at it here is STO20 which ran from 31st January to 22nd April 1966.
> 
> Hibou.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 23/11/2018 17:16, John Howell via Tech1 wrote:
>> Seeing as we're heading for some sort of timeline of courses here is TO15 which ran from 18th March to 24th May 1963. I have put names to people I'm sure about.
>> 
>> Hibou.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 23/11/2018 16:11, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 wrote:
>>> TA21 was 1966
>>> 
>>> B
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 23/11/2018 15:51, Tony Crake via Tech1 wrote:
>>>> Well chaps have I got the answer? Its.  TA 21  ! Have a look at Evesham eng info photos and there it is not TO Its TA
>>>> 
>>>> Tony crake
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 23 Nov 2018, at 15:28, Barry Bonner via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 21/1/73 was a Sunday though!
>>>>> Barry.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 23 Nov 2018, at 12:43, Graeme Wall via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Possibly the date rather than course number ie 21/1/73?
>>>>>> Graeme Wall
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 23 Nov 2018, at 03:12, John Bennett via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I was on the first A course (A1) which started in June 1970, so this must be an A Course. Maybe A21?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Cheers  John
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 21/11/2018 22:05, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 wrote:
>>>>>>>> Barbara Franc posted this on Facebook, but it isn't TO21. If you were there, what course was it?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> <kngjpaallenlpbob.png> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>> John Bennett
>>>>>>> 07768 527518
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 	Virus-free. www.avast.com
>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>> Tech1 mailing list
>>>>>>> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
>>>>>>> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
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>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
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From graeme.wall at icloud.com  Fri Nov 23 13:44:24 2018
From: graeme.wall at icloud.com (Graeme Wall)
Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2018 19:44:24 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Course pic
In-Reply-To: <31126843.40233.1542997085414.JavaMail.defaultUser@defaultHost>
References: <31126843.40233.1542997085414.JavaMail.defaultUser@defaultHost>
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I remember one being taken, one chancer on the course was trying to get the phone number of the photographer?s assistant who was checking our names for the caption.

? 
Graeme Wall




> On 23 Nov 2018, at 18:18, David Carter <davidpcarter at btinternet.com> wrote:
> 
> TO 31 Graeme.  I've never seen a photo either.
> 
> David
> 
> 
> ----Original message----
> From : tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
> Date : 23/11/2018 - 18:00 (GMT)
> To : j at howell61.f9.co.uk
> Cc : tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
> Subject : Re: [Tech1] Course pic
> 
> STO 31 from April 30th to Jul 28th 1969 though I?ve never seen a course photo.
> 
> Graeme Wall
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 23 Nov 2018, at 17:31, John Howell via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
>> 
>> .....and while I'm at it here is STO20 which ran from 31st January to 22nd April 1966.
>> 
>> Hibou.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 23/11/2018 17:16, John Howell via Tech1 wrote:
>>> Seeing as we're heading for some sort of timeline of courses here is TO15 which ran from 18th March to 24th May 1963. I have put names to people I'm sure about.
>>> 
>>> Hibou.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 23/11/2018 16:11, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 wrote:
>>>> TA21 was 1966
>>>> 
>>>> B
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 23/11/2018 15:51, Tony Crake via Tech1 wrote:
>>>>> Well chaps have I got the answer? Its.  TA 21  ! Have a look at Evesham eng info photos and there it is not TO Its TA
>>>>> 
>>>>> Tony crake
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 23 Nov 2018, at 15:28, Barry Bonner via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 21/1/73 was a Sunday though!
>>>>>> Barry.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 23 Nov 2018, at 12:43, Graeme Wall via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Possibly the date rather than course number ie 21/1/73?
>>>>>>> Graeme Wall
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 23 Nov 2018, at 03:12, John Bennett via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I was on the first A course (A1) which started in June 1970, so this must be an A Course. Maybe A21?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Cheers  John
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 21/11/2018 22:05, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Barbara Franc posted this on Facebook, but it isn't TO21. If you were there, what course was it?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> <kngjpaallenlpbob.png> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>>> John Bennett
>>>>>>>> 07768 527518
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 	Virus-free. www.avast.com
>>>>>>>> -- 
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>>>>>>>> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
>>>>>>>> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk
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>>>>> 
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>>>> 
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>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
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From dave at davesound.co.uk  Fri Nov 23 15:05:04 2018
From: dave at davesound.co.uk (Dave Plowman)
Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2018 21:05:04 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [Tech1] Course pic
In-Reply-To: <ef9537ff-3e05-3a8b-08ce-13aff3701d29@howell61.f9.co.uk>
References: <95e21665-b88f-bd14-71d0-dd4fb59b735b@gmail.com>
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	<ef9537ff-3e05-3a8b-08ce-13aff3701d29@howell61.f9.co.uk>
Message-ID: <575ba36803dave@davesound.co.uk>

In article <ef9537ff-3e05-3a8b-08ce-13aff3701d29 at howell61.f9.co.uk>,
   John Howell via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> Seeing as we're heading for some sort of timeline of courses here is 
> TO15 which ran from 18th March to 24th May 1963. I have put names to 
> people I'm sure about.

Was recently looking for mine with no success. Thanks.

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From dnewbitt at fireflyuk.net  Fri Nov 23 16:41:17 2018
From: dnewbitt at fireflyuk.net (David Newbitt)
Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2018 22:41:17 -0000
Subject: [Tech1] Course pic
In-Reply-To: <575ba36803dave@davesound.co.uk>
References: <95e21665-b88f-bd14-71d0-dd4fb59b735b@gmail.com><af3dddf4-16f3-757f-7efc-b0c4eaf226e2@talktalk.net><F95D6C91-0AC1-4952-99AB-1DF8ADA1CA3A@icloud.com><04D2A5C0-B9EE-49D5-BEE0-651759832D15@btinternet.com><B1844C15-BC35-4FB7-86CF-933373FB6F47@gmail.com><79f74333-8a80-5c37-8310-79256c0ce999@ntlworld.com><ef9537ff-3e05-3a8b-08ce-13aff3701d29@howell61.f9.co.uk>
	<575ba36803dave@davesound.co.uk>
Message-ID: <D5A390B747314939A09A44CD8591DDE7@DESKTOP6GGCRV1>

Hi Dave,

Since joining this merry throng earlier in the month I have dug out my 
copy of the TO15 course photo and have been filling in names as best I 
can manage. I don't know how to navigate to what I presume was the 
same photo posted by Hibou to which you refer.

Do I gather you somehow got missed off John's list? I assure you you're 
on mine! It's just possible I may be able to identify one or two that may 
not appear in John's so it would be nice to be able to see that.

Best wishes, Dave Newbitt.

-----Original Message----- 
From: Dave Plowman via Tech1 
Sent: Friday, November 23, 2018 9:05 PM 
To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk 
Subject: Re: [Tech1] Course pic 

In article <ef9537ff-3e05-3a8b-08ce-13aff3701d29 at howell61.f9.co.uk>,
   John Howell via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> Seeing as we're heading for some sort of timeline of courses here is 
> TO15 which ran from 18th March to 24th May 1963. I have put names to 
> people I'm sure about.

Was recently looking for mine with no success. Thanks.

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From j at howell61.f9.co.uk  Fri Nov 23 17:04:52 2018
From: j at howell61.f9.co.uk (John Howell)
Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2018 23:04:52 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Course pic
In-Reply-To: <D5A390B747314939A09A44CD8591DDE7@DESKTOP6GGCRV1>
References: <95e21665-b88f-bd14-71d0-dd4fb59b735b@gmail.com>
	<af3dddf4-16f3-757f-7efc-b0c4eaf226e2@talktalk.net>
	<F95D6C91-0AC1-4952-99AB-1DF8ADA1CA3A@icloud.com>
	<04D2A5C0-B9EE-49D5-BEE0-651759832D15@btinternet.com>
	<B1844C15-BC35-4FB7-86CF-933373FB6F47@gmail.com>
	<79f74333-8a80-5c37-8310-79256c0ce999@ntlworld.com>
	<ef9537ff-3e05-3a8b-08ce-13aff3701d29@howell61.f9.co.uk>
	<575ba36803dave@davesound.co.uk>
	<D5A390B747314939A09A44CD8591DDE7@DESKTOP6GGCRV1>
Message-ID: <06fd11c8-223d-1abd-c2ec-2b103af4893d@howell61.f9.co.uk>

You're both labeled: David P. front row, 7th. from the left, Dave N. 
back row 8th from the left.

I have attached it again Dave, it's not an excessively large file so 
there shouldn't be a problem.

Hibou.


On 23/11/2018 22:41, David Newbitt via Tech1 wrote:
> Hi Dave,
>
> Since joining this merry throng earlier in the month I have dug out my 
> copy of the TO15 course photo and have been filling in names as best I 
> can manage. I don't know how to navigate to what I presume was the 
> same photo posted by Hibou to which you refer.
>
> Do I gather you somehow got missed off John's list? I assure you 
> you're on mine! It's just possible I may be able to identify one or 
> two that may not appear in John's so it would be nice to be able to 
> see that.
>
> Best wishes, Dave Newbitt.
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Dave Plowman via Tech1 Sent: Friday, 
> November 23, 2018 9:05 PM To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk Subject: Re: 
> [Tech1] Course pic
> In article <ef9537ff-3e05-3a8b-08ce-13aff3701d29 at howell61.f9.co.uk>,
> ? John Howell via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
>> Seeing as we're heading for some sort of timeline of courses here is 
>> TO15 which ran from 18th March to 24th May 1963. I have put names to 
>> people I'm sure about.
>
> Was recently looking for mine with no success. Thanks.
>

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From dave at davesound.co.uk  Fri Nov 23 18:27:12 2018
From: dave at davesound.co.uk (Dave Plowman)
Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2018 00:27:12 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [Tech1] Course pic
In-Reply-To: <06fd11c8-223d-1abd-c2ec-2b103af4893d@howell61.f9.co.uk>
References: <95e21665-b88f-bd14-71d0-dd4fb59b735b@gmail.com>
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	<06fd11c8-223d-1abd-c2ec-2b103af4893d@howell61.f9.co.uk>
Message-ID: <575bb5e9aadave@davesound.co.uk>

In article <06fd11c8-223d-1abd-c2ec-2b103af4893d at howell61.f9.co.uk>,
   John Howell via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> You're both labeled: David P. front row, 7th. from the left, Dave N. 
> back row 8th from the left.


I can help with a few, from memory. If I could find my list of those on
the course, I'm sure it would jog my failing memory further. ;-) If anyone
has it to hand, would be nice to see it.

All IIRC. 5) Sam Wilson. 6) Reg Smythe  14) Paul Plowman (no relation)

Now for more wild guesses.

6) Derek Askew?

Oddly I thought 3) was Rod Stebbin

-- 
*I have plenty of talent and vision. I just don't care.

    Dave Plowman     dave at davesound.co.uk     London SW 12
    


From geoffletch at gmail.com  Sat Nov 24 01:39:39 2018
From: geoffletch at gmail.com (Geoff Fletcher)
Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2018 07:39:39 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Course pic
In-Reply-To: <575bb5e9aadave@davesound.co.uk>
References: <95e21665-b88f-bd14-71d0-dd4fb59b735b@gmail.com>
	<af3dddf4-16f3-757f-7efc-b0c4eaf226e2@talktalk.net>
	<F95D6C91-0AC1-4952-99AB-1DF8ADA1CA3A@icloud.com>
	<04D2A5C0-B9EE-49D5-BEE0-651759832D15@btinternet.com>
	<B1844C15-BC35-4FB7-86CF-933373FB6F47@gmail.com>
	<79f74333-8a80-5c37-8310-79256c0ce999@ntlworld.com>
	<ef9537ff-3e05-3a8b-08ce-13aff3701d29@howell61.f9.co.uk>
	<575ba36803dave@davesound.co.uk>
	<D5A390B747314939A09A44CD8591DDE7@DESKTOP6GGCRV1>
	<06fd11c8-223d-1abd-c2ec-2b103af4893d@howell61.f9.co.uk>
	<575bb5e9aadave@davesound.co.uk>
Message-ID: <CAB99AB_3AdCzb9SAAKOYL9r1K5CwybXuo3fCoyW+4P9HEP1Btw@mail.gmail.com>

I wish the names were in white. I find the red text difficult tobresd. Must
get new glasses!
Geoff F

On Sat, 24 Nov 2018 at 00:27, Dave Plowman via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
wrote:

> In article <06fd11c8-223d-1abd-c2ec-2b103af4893d at howell61.f9.co.uk>,
>    John Howell via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> > You're both labeled: David P. front row, 7th. from the left, Dave N.
> > back row 8th from the left.
>
>
> I can help with a few, from memory. If I could find my list of those on
> the course, I'm sure it would jog my failing memory further. ;-) If anyone
> has it to hand, would be nice to see it.
>
> All IIRC. 5) Sam Wilson. 6) Reg Smythe  14) Paul Plowman (no relation)
>
> Now for more wild guesses.
>
> 6) Derek Askew?
>
> Oddly I thought 3) was Rod Stebbin
>
> --
> *I have plenty of talent and vision. I just don't care.
>
>     Dave Plowman     dave at davesound.co.uk     London SW 12
>
>
> --
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> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
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From geoffletch at gmail.com  Sat Nov 24 01:41:44 2018
From: geoffletch at gmail.com (Geoff Fletcher)
Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2018 07:41:44 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Course pic
In-Reply-To: <CAB99AB_3AdCzb9SAAKOYL9r1K5CwybXuo3fCoyW+4P9HEP1Btw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <95e21665-b88f-bd14-71d0-dd4fb59b735b@gmail.com>
	<af3dddf4-16f3-757f-7efc-b0c4eaf226e2@talktalk.net>
	<F95D6C91-0AC1-4952-99AB-1DF8ADA1CA3A@icloud.com>
	<04D2A5C0-B9EE-49D5-BEE0-651759832D15@btinternet.com>
	<B1844C15-BC35-4FB7-86CF-933373FB6F47@gmail.com>
	<79f74333-8a80-5c37-8310-79256c0ce999@ntlworld.com>
	<ef9537ff-3e05-3a8b-08ce-13aff3701d29@howell61.f9.co.uk>
	<575ba36803dave@davesound.co.uk>
	<D5A390B747314939A09A44CD8591DDE7@DESKTOP6GGCRV1>
	<06fd11c8-223d-1abd-c2ec-2b103af4893d@howell61.f9.co.uk>
	<575bb5e9aadave@davesound.co.uk>
	<CAB99AB_3AdCzb9SAAKOYL9r1K5CwybXuo3fCoyW+4P9HEP1Btw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAB99AB-dwXQwB4U2FES=g8U1m8u8RpUcfj6u3f0eof0DsYwp2g@mail.gmail.com>

Should have said ?difficult to READ?.
Geoff F

On Sat, 24 Nov 2018 at 07:39, Geoff Fletcher <geoffletch at gmail.com> wrote:

> I wish the names were in white. I find the red text difficult tobresd.
> Must get new glasses!
> Geoff F
>
> On Sat, 24 Nov 2018 at 00:27, Dave Plowman via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
>> In article <06fd11c8-223d-1abd-c2ec-2b103af4893d at howell61.f9.co.uk>,
>>    John Howell via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
>> > You're both labeled: David P. front row, 7th. from the left, Dave N.
>> > back row 8th from the left.
>>
>>
>> I can help with a few, from memory. If I could find my list of those on
>> the course, I'm sure it would jog my failing memory further. ;-) If anyone
>> has it to hand, would be nice to see it.
>>
>> All IIRC. 5) Sam Wilson. 6) Reg Smythe  14) Paul Plowman (no relation)
>>
>> Now for more wild guesses.
>>
>> 6) Derek Askew?
>>
>> Oddly I thought 3) was Rod Stebbin
>>
>> --
>> *I have plenty of talent and vision. I just don't care.
>>
>>     Dave Plowman     dave at davesound.co.uk     London SW 12
>>
>>
>> --
>> Tech1 mailing list
>> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
>> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk
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From rogerbunce at btinternet.com  Sat Nov 24 02:24:18 2018
From: rogerbunce at btinternet.com (ROGER BUNCE)
Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2018 08:24:18 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Tech1] Course pic
In-Reply-To: <CAB99AB-dwXQwB4U2FES=g8U1m8u8RpUcfj6u3f0eof0DsYwp2g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <95e21665-b88f-bd14-71d0-dd4fb59b735b@gmail.com>
	<af3dddf4-16f3-757f-7efc-b0c4eaf226e2@talktalk.net>
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	<04D2A5C0-B9EE-49D5-BEE0-651759832D15@btinternet.com>
	<B1844C15-BC35-4FB7-86CF-933373FB6F47@gmail.com>
	<79f74333-8a80-5c37-8310-79256c0ce999@ntlworld.com>
	<ef9537ff-3e05-3a8b-08ce-13aff3701d29@howell61.f9.co.uk>
	<575ba36803dave@davesound.co.uk>
	<D5A390B747314939A09A44CD8591DDE7@DESKTOP6GGCRV1>
	<06fd11c8-223d-1abd-c2ec-2b103af4893d@howell61.f9.co.uk>
	<575bb5e9aadave@davesound.co.uk>
	<CAB99AB_3AdCzb9SAAKOYL9r1K5CwybXuo3fCoyW+4P9HEP1Btw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAB99AB-dwXQwB4U2FES=g8U1m8u8RpUcfj6u3f0eof0DsYwp2g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1317345457.9604844.1543047858954@mail.yahoo.com>

 Never could find focus with the red tube.

    On Saturday, 24 November 2018, 07:42:21 GMT, Geoff Fletcher via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:  
 
 Should have said ?difficult to READ?.Geoff F
On Sat, 24 Nov 2018 at 07:39, Geoff Fletcher <geoffletch at gmail.com> wrote:

I wish the names were in white. I find the red text difficult tobresd. Must get new glasses!Geoff F
On Sat, 24 Nov 2018 at 00:27, Dave Plowman via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:

In article <06fd11c8-223d-1abd-c2ec-2b103af4893d at howell61.f9.co.uk>,
? ?John Howell via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> You're both labeled: David P. front row, 7th. from the left, Dave N. 
> back row 8th from the left.


I can help with a few, from memory. If I could find my list of those on
the course, I'm sure it would jog my failing memory further. ;-) If anyone
has it to hand, would be nice to see it.

All IIRC. 5) Sam Wilson. 6) Reg Smythe? 14) Paul Plowman (no relation)

Now for more wild guesses.

6) Derek Askew?

Oddly I thought 3) was Rod Stebbin

-- 
*I have plenty of talent and vision. I just don't care.

? ? Dave Plowman? ? ?dave at davesound.co.uk? ? ?London SW 12


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From j at howell61.f9.co.uk  Sat Nov 24 02:49:16 2018
From: j at howell61.f9.co.uk (John Howell)
Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2018 08:49:16 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Course pic
In-Reply-To: <CAB99AB-dwXQwB4U2FES=g8U1m8u8RpUcfj6u3f0eof0DsYwp2g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <95e21665-b88f-bd14-71d0-dd4fb59b735b@gmail.com>
	<af3dddf4-16f3-757f-7efc-b0c4eaf226e2@talktalk.net>
	<F95D6C91-0AC1-4952-99AB-1DF8ADA1CA3A@icloud.com>
	<04D2A5C0-B9EE-49D5-BEE0-651759832D15@btinternet.com>
	<B1844C15-BC35-4FB7-86CF-933373FB6F47@gmail.com>
	<79f74333-8a80-5c37-8310-79256c0ce999@ntlworld.com>
	<ef9537ff-3e05-3a8b-08ce-13aff3701d29@howell61.f9.co.uk>
	<575ba36803dave@davesound.co.uk>
	<D5A390B747314939A09A44CD8591DDE7@DESKTOP6GGCRV1>
	<06fd11c8-223d-1abd-c2ec-2b103af4893d@howell61.f9.co.uk>
	<575bb5e9aadave@davesound.co.uk>
	<CAB99AB_3AdCzb9SAAKOYL9r1K5CwybXuo3fCoyW+4P9HEP1Btw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAB99AB-dwXQwB4U2FES=g8U1m8u8RpUcfj6u3f0eof0DsYwp2g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <ddb48906-7f7d-8f75-f02b-7138ad799eff@howell61.f9.co.uk>

Sorry Geoff, maybe I'll have another go with white lettering if we get 
some more names.

I seem to remember I was discovering how badly Photoshop handled text.

Hibou.


On 24/11/2018 07:41, Geoff Fletcher via Tech1 wrote:
> Should have said ?difficult to READ?.
> Geoff F
>
> On Sat, 24 Nov 2018 at 07:39, Geoff Fletcher <geoffletch at gmail.com 
> <mailto:geoffletch at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     I wish the names were in white. I find the red text difficult
>     tobresd. Must get new glasses!
>     Geoff F
>
>     On Sat, 24 Nov 2018 at 00:27, Dave Plowman via Tech1
>     <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk <mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>> wrote:
>
>         In article
>         <06fd11c8-223d-1abd-c2ec-2b103af4893d at howell61.f9.co.uk
>         <mailto:06fd11c8-223d-1abd-c2ec-2b103af4893d at howell61.f9.co.uk>>,
>         ? ?John Howell via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
>         <mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>> wrote:
>         > You're both labeled: David P. front row, 7th. from the left,
>         Dave N.
>         > back row 8th from the left.
>
>
>         I can help with a few, from memory. If I could find my list of
>         those on
>         the course, I'm sure it would jog my failing memory further.
>         ;-) If anyone
>         has it to hand, would be nice to see it.
>
>         All IIRC. 5) Sam Wilson. 6) Reg Smythe? 14) Paul Plowman (no
>         relation)
>
>         Now for more wild guesses.
>
>         6) Derek Askew?
>
>         Oddly I thought 3) was Rod Stebbin
>
>         -- 
>         *I have plenty of talent and vision. I just don't care.
>
>         ? ? Dave Plowman dave at davesound.co.uk
>         <mailto:dave at davesound.co.uk> ?London SW 12
>
>
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From barryaustin2000 at yahoo.co.uk  Sat Nov 24 03:53:02 2018
From: barryaustin2000 at yahoo.co.uk (Barry Austin)
Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2018 09:53:02 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Tech Ops course
Message-ID: <350CC888-DE9F-458E-85C9-537BA2D3BCA8@yahoo.co.uk>

Hello all

I was on TO 17,  October-December 1963.   

Don?t remember much about the course, except it seemed long, I just wanted to get on and work in the studios back in London, but I do remember I was there when President Kennedy was shot. 

The course must have done me some good, I?m still working, 55 years later, now as LD/VS on EastEnders !

After the course, on my return to the shiny new Television Centre and the not so shiny Lime Grove, Television Theatre & Riverside at the start of 1964, I shared a flat in West Ealing for a while  with John  Howell, Chris Wilden, Bob Macfarlane and one other, who for the life me I can?t remember, I apologise if it was you, the old grey cells aren?t what they used to be !

Sorry, don?t have a course photo.

Barry

Sent from my iPad


From alec.bray.2 at gmail.com  Sat Nov 24 04:21:18 2018
From: alec.bray.2 at gmail.com (Alec Bray)
Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2018 10:21:18 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] RI Xmas lectures - Missing episodes
Message-ID: <2b0f1f45-045b-5ab5-f0c4-fc72bbf5b1fc@gmail.com>

HI all,

You may have seen on BBC Breakfast today a segment about missing Royal 
Institution Christmas Lectures (at 9:55 if you want to see it on iPlayer).

There are something like 31 missing episodes, including one by David 
Attenborough.

The RI are hoping that some tech savvy people in the '70s may have 
recorded some of these episodes - and still have them!? (I'm a bit 
dubious about? 40+ year old VHS!!).

Maybe one of us may have some of these episodes recorded, or be able to 
lay their hands on a recording?

The RI want to digitise them all and put them on line.


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From tonynuttall at me.com  Sat Nov 24 05:47:50 2018
From: tonynuttall at me.com (William Nuttall)
Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2018 11:47:50 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [Tech1] TO COURSE PHOTO
Message-ID: <03da35e0-ef71-4be5-a85e-e5dc38c6460d@me.com>

Hi All.

Must be a TO Course. Back row third from the left DAVE FOX, Bernard Fox's ?son.
A Manchester Cameraman!
Tech Ops site pic of DAVE FOX in the doorway in the remains of MR Studio A. When
the studio was barely operational but owned by 3Sixty Media. A sign of 'things to
come" for BBC Studios!!

Tony N.





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From neil at dormand.eclipse.co.uk  Sat Nov 24 05:48:12 2018
From: neil at dormand.eclipse.co.uk (Neil Dormand)
Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2018 11:48:12 -0000
Subject: [Tech1] Course pic
In-Reply-To: <79f74333-8a80-5c37-8310-79256c0ce999@ntlworld.com>
References: <95e21665-b88f-bd14-71d0-dd4fb59b735b@gmail.com>	<af3dddf4-16f3-757f-7efc-b0c4eaf226e2@talktalk.net>	<F95D6C91-0AC1-4952-99AB-1DF8ADA1CA3A@icloud.com>	<04D2A5C0-B9EE-49D5-BEE0-651759832D15@btinternet.com>	<B1844C15-BC35-4FB7-86CF-933373FB6F47@gmail.com>
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John is right it would have been an A course which superseded the TO and TA courses. It was the first part of the ABC progression for TAs/Engineers. The A course was designed for both TOs and TAs and was run by the Ops Section at WN. The B and C courses were run by Eng. Section.

 

Neil Dormand

 

From: Tech1 [mailto:tech1-bounces at tech-ops.co.uk] On Behalf Of Bernard Newnham via Tech1
Sent: 23 November 2018 16:12
To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
Cc: Bernard Newnham
Subject: Re: [Tech1] Course pic

 

TA21 was 1966

B



On 23/11/2018 15:51, Tony Crake via Tech1 wrote:

Well chaps have I got the answer? Its.  TA 21  ! Have a look at Evesham eng info photos and there it is not TO Its TA 

 

Tony crake

 

 

 

On 23 Nov 2018, at 15:28, Barry Bonner via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:

 

21/1/73 was a Sunday though!

Barry.

 

 

On 23 Nov 2018, at 12:43, Graeme Wall via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:

 

Possibly the date rather than course number ie 21/1/73?
Graeme Wall






On 23 Nov 2018, at 03:12, John Bennett via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:

I was on the first A course (A1) which started in June 1970, so this must be an A Course. Maybe A21?

Cheers  John





On 21/11/2018 22:05, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 wrote:

Barbara Franc posted this on Facebook, but it isn't TO21. If you were there, what course was it?

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From geoffletch at gmail.com  Sat Nov 24 05:52:36 2018
From: geoffletch at gmail.com (Geoff Fletcher)
Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2018 11:52:36 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Tech Ops course
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I was onTO19 - April 13 to 17 July 1964. It was the first course to be
blessed with the presence of female Radio Tech Ops from BH etc.
There were four course photographs, two each for the Radio Tech Ops and TV
TechOps. I'm missing  the TV Tech Ops photo I - Z.  Here
they, with names as far as possible.

On the Radio Tech Ops A-N photo from memory middle row first and second
left are Terry Meadowcroft and John Norman. Front row second left is Janet
Mitchell, then
Alison (a.k.a Fred) ?,  Anne Breach, and Bobby Lane (later Bobby Marsden).
No doubt Terry can fill in more names.

On the Radio Tech Ops O - Z photo, names are listed as follows (left to
right):-
Back Row: Alan Stennett, Bob Saunders, Mike Stace, Dave West, Julian
Walter, Mark Schofield, Brian Robinson, Dave Shear, Ian Sanson,
Barry Tharby.
Front Row: Ann Sample, Christina Van Embden, Chris Paine, Jackie Spacey,
Pat Woodfield, Carol James.

If anyone has the TV Tech Ops I-Z photo I would be very pleased to see it.

Geoff F

Geoff  F


On Sat, Nov 24, 2018 at 9:53 AM Barry Austin via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
wrote:

> Hello all
>
> I was on TO 17,  October-December 1963.
>
> Don?t remember much about the course, except it seemed long, I just wanted
> to get on and work in the studios back in London, but I do remember I was
> there when President Kennedy was shot.
>
> The course must have done me some good, I?m still working, 55 years later,
> now as LD/VS on EastEnders !
>
> After the course, on my return to the shiny new Television Centre and the
> not so shiny Lime Grove, Television Theatre & Riverside at the start of
> 1964, I shared a flat in West Ealing for a while  with John  Howell, Chris
> Wilden, Bob Macfarlane and one other, who for the life me I can?t remember,
> I apologise if it was you, the old grey cells aren?t what they used to be !
>
> Sorry, don?t have a course photo.
>
> Barry
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> --
> Tech1 mailing list
> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk
>
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From geoffletch at gmail.com  Sat Nov 24 05:58:33 2018
From: geoffletch at gmail.com (Geoff Fletcher)
Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2018 11:58:33 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Tech Ops course
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First pic too big  . Here it is again - TO19 TV Tech Ops A-H.
Geoff F

On Sat, Nov 24, 2018 at 11:52 AM Geoff Fletcher <geoffletch at gmail.com>
wrote:

> I was onTO19 - April 13 to 17 July 1964. It was the first course to be
> blessed with the presence of female Radio Tech Ops from BH etc.
> There were four course photographs, two each for the Radio Tech Ops and TV
> TechOps. I'm missing  the TV Tech Ops photo I - Z.  Here
> they, with names as far as possible.
>
> On the Radio Tech Ops A-N photo from memory middle row first and second
> left are Terry Meadowcroft and John Norman. Front row second left is Janet
> Mitchell, then
> Alison (a.k.a Fred) ?,  Anne Breach, and Bobby Lane (later Bobby Marsden).
> No doubt Terry can fill in more names.
>
> On the Radio Tech Ops O - Z photo, names are listed as follows (left to
> right):-
> Back Row: Alan Stennett, Bob Saunders, Mike Stace, Dave West, Julian
> Walter, Mark Schofield, Brian Robinson, Dave Shear, Ian Sanson,
> Barry Tharby.
> Front Row: Ann Sample, Christina Van Embden, Chris Paine, Jackie Spacey,
> Pat Woodfield, Carol James.
>
> If anyone has the TV Tech Ops I-Z photo I would be very pleased to see it.
>
> Geoff F
>
> Geoff  F
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 24, 2018 at 9:53 AM Barry Austin via Tech1 <
> tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Hello all
>>
>> I was on TO 17,  October-December 1963.
>>
>> Don?t remember much about the course, except it seemed long, I just
>> wanted to get on and work in the studios back in London, but I do remember
>> I was there when President Kennedy was shot.
>>
>> The course must have done me some good, I?m still working, 55 years
>> later, now as LD/VS on EastEnders !
>>
>> After the course, on my return to the shiny new Television Centre and the
>> not so shiny Lime Grove, Television Theatre & Riverside at the start of
>> 1964, I shared a flat in West Ealing for a while  with John  Howell, Chris
>> Wilden, Bob Macfarlane and one other, who for the life me I can?t remember,
>> I apologise if it was you, the old grey cells aren?t what they used to be !
>>
>> Sorry, don?t have a course photo.
>>
>> Barry
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> --
>> Tech1 mailing list
>> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
>> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk
>>
>
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From geoffletch at gmail.com  Sat Nov 24 06:13:09 2018
From: geoffletch at gmail.com (Geoff Fletcher)
Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2018 12:13:09 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Tech Ops course
In-Reply-To: <350CC888-DE9F-458E-85C9-537BA2D3BCA8@yahoo.co.uk>
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Message-ID: <CAB99AB_haL1RSJBQDE-STed9MiJQsgtUY2vKo2FjkBu9sr9_-g@mail.gmail.com>

I was on TO19 - April 13 to 17 July 1964. It was the first course to be
blessed with the presence of female Radio Tech Ops from BH etc.
There were four course photographs, two each for the Radio Tech Ops and TV
TechOps. I'm missing  the TV Tech Ops photo I - Z.  Here
they, with names as far as possible.

On the TV Tech Ops photo A-H, names are as follows (left to right):-
Back Row: Simon Fone, Unknown, Pete Hill, MikeFenner, Geoff Fletcher, John
Couzens, Dudley Derby,
Middle Row: Dickie Bunn, John Dailley, Paul Gawith, Malcolm Brock, Tony
Cahill, Neil Cameron, BobGillies,  Bryn Edwards, Kevin Fulcher.
Front Row: Tony Grant, Bob Foley, Geoff Beech, Jules Greenway, Mike
Chislet, Dick Greening.

On the Radio Tech Ops A-N photo from memory middle row first and second
left are Terry Meadowcroft and John Norman.
Front row second left is Janet Mitchell, then Alison (a.k.a Fred) ?,  Anne
Breach, and Bobby Lane (later Bobby Marsden).
No doubt Terry can fill in more names.

On the Radio Tech Ops O - Z photo, names are listed as follows (left to
right):-
Back Row: Alan Stennett, Bob Saunders, Mike Stace, Dave West, Julian
Walter, Mark Schofield, Brian Robinson, Dave Shear, Ian Sanson, Barry
Tharby.
Front Row: Ann Sample, Christina Van Embden, Chris Paine, Jackie Spacey,
Pat Woodfield, Carol James.

If anyone has the TV Tech Ops I-Z photo I would be very pleased to see it.

Geoff F

On Sat, Nov 24, 2018 at 9:53 AM Barry Austin via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
wrote:

> Hello all
>
> I was on TO 17,  October-December 1963.
>
> Don?t remember much about the course, except it seemed long, I just wanted
> to get on and work in the studios back in London, but I do remember I was
> there when President Kennedy was shot.
>
> The course must have done me some good, I?m still working, 55 years later,
> now as LD/VS on EastEnders !
>
> After the course, on my return to the shiny new Television Centre and the
> not so shiny Lime Grove, Television Theatre & Riverside at the start of
> 1964, I shared a flat in West Ealing for a while  with John  Howell, Chris
> Wilden, Bob Macfarlane and one other, who for the life me I can?t remember,
> I apologise if it was you, the old grey cells aren?t what they used to be !
>
> Sorry, don?t have a course photo.
>
> Barry
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> --
> Tech1 mailing list
> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk
>
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From mail at terrymeadowcroft.co.uk  Sat Nov 24 07:37:28 2018
From: mail at terrymeadowcroft.co.uk (terrymeadowcroft)
Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2018 13:37:28 -0000
Subject: [Tech1] Fw:  Tech Ops course
Message-ID: <A554AC807E89445382E2E512F53D4A18@MEDDIES2012>


----- Original Message ----- 
From: terrymeadowcroft 
To: Geoff Fletcher 
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 1:03 PM
Subject: Re: [Tech1] Tech Ops course


Hi Geoff; hi all,

These are the IDs as far as I know - some still missing! 

Terry

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Terry Meadowcroft  MIPS, Sound Recordist,  Retired,
2 Cartoft Cottages,
Near Kirkbymoorside,
North Yorkshire
YO62 6NU

Telephone  01751 432656
Mobile     07710 740932 

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Geoff Fletcher via Tech1 
  To: barryaustin2000 at yahoo.co.uk 
  Cc: Tech-Ops Group Group 
  Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 12:13 PM
  Subject: Re: [Tech1] Tech Ops course


  I was on TO19 - April 13 to 17 July 1964. It was the first course to be blessed with the presence of female Radio Tech Ops from BH etc. 
  There were four course photographs, two each for the Radio Tech Ops and TV TechOps. I'm missing  the TV Tech Ops photo I - Z.  Here
  they, with names as far as possible.


  On the TV Tech Ops photo A-H, names are as follows (left to right):-
  Back Row: Simon Fone, Unknown, Pete Hill, MikeFenner, Geoff Fletcher, John Couzens, Dudley Derby,
  Middle Row: Dickie Bunn, John Dailley, Paul Gawith, Malcolm Brock, Tony Cahill, Neil Cameron, BobGillies,  Bryn Edwards, Kevin Fulcher.
  Front Row: Tony Grant, Bob Foley, Geoff Beech, Jules Greenway, Mike Chislet, Dick Greening.


  On the Radio Tech Ops A-N photo from memory middle row first and second left are Terry Meadowcroft and John Norman. 

  Front row second left is Janet Mitchell, then Alison (a.k.a Fred) ?,  Anne Breach, and Bobby Lane (later Bobby Marsden).
  No doubt Terry can fill in more names.


  On the Radio Tech Ops O - Z photo, names are listed as follows (left to right):-
  Back Row: Alan Stennett, Bob Saunders, Mike Stace, Dave West, Julian Walter, Mark Schofield, Brian Robinson, Dave Shear, Ian Sanson, Barry Tharby.
  Front Row: Ann Sample, Christina Van Embden, Chris Paine, Jackie Spacey, Pat Woodfield, Carol James.


  If anyone has the TV Tech Ops I-Z photo I would be very pleased to see it.


  Geoff F 


  On Sat, Nov 24, 2018 at 9:53 AM Barry Austin via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:

    Hello all

    I was on TO 17,  October-December 1963.   

    Don?t remember much about the course, except it seemed long, I just wanted to get on and work in the studios back in London, but I do remember I was there when President Kennedy was shot. 

    The course must have done me some good, I?m still working, 55 years later, now as LD/VS on EastEnders !

    After the course, on my return to the shiny new Television Centre and the not so shiny Lime Grove, Television Theatre & Riverside at the start of 1964, I shared a flat in West Ealing for a while  with John  Howell, Chris Wilden, Bob Macfarlane and one other, who for the life me I can?t remember, I apologise if it was you, the old grey cells aren?t what they used to be !

    Sorry, don?t have a course photo.

    Barry

    Sent from my iPad

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From mail at terrymeadowcroft.co.uk  Sat Nov 24 07:38:26 2018
From: mail at terrymeadowcroft.co.uk (terrymeadowcroft)
Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2018 13:38:26 -0000
Subject: [Tech1] Fw:  Tech Ops course
Message-ID: <6EF445DCF8AF48BBBFB2BAE7A13E1F51@MEDDIES2012>


----- Original Message ----- 
From: terrymeadowcroft 
To: Geoff Fletcher 
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 1:33 PM
Subject: Re: [Tech1] Tech Ops course


Sorry, now duly updated, thanks Geoff.

Also added a few nice photos of busy students in a hut to make you smile!

Terry
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Geoff Fletcher via Tech1 
  To: barryaustin2000 at yahoo.co.uk 
  Cc: Tech-Ops Group Group 
  Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 12:13 PM
  Subject: Re: [Tech1] Tech Ops course


  I was on TO19 - April 13 to 17 July 1964. It was the first course to be blessed with the presence of female Radio Tech Ops from BH etc. 
  There were four course photographs, two each for the Radio Tech Ops and TV TechOps. I'm missing  the TV Tech Ops photo I - Z.  Here
  they, with names as far as possible.


  On the TV Tech Ops photo A-H, names are as follows (left to right):-
  Back Row: Simon Fone, Unknown, Pete Hill, MikeFenner, Geoff Fletcher, John Couzens, Dudley Derby,
  Middle Row: Dickie Bunn, John Dailley, Paul Gawith, Malcolm Brock, Tony Cahill, Neil Cameron, BobGillies,  Bryn Edwards, Kevin Fulcher.
  Front Row: Tony Grant, Bob Foley, Geoff Beech, Jules Greenway, Mike Chislet, Dick Greening.


  On the Radio Tech Ops A-N photo from memory middle row first and second left are Terry Meadowcroft and John Norman. 

  Front row second left is Janet Mitchell, then Alison (a.k.a Fred) ?,  Anne Breach, and Bobby Lane (later Bobby Marsden).
  No doubt Terry can fill in more names.


  On the Radio Tech Ops O - Z photo, names are listed as follows (left to right):-
  Back Row: Alan Stennett, Bob Saunders, Mike Stace, Dave West, Julian Walter, Mark Schofield, Brian Robinson, Dave Shear, Ian Sanson, Barry Tharby.
  Front Row: Ann Sample, Christina Van Embden, Chris Paine, Jackie Spacey, Pat Woodfield, Carol James.


  If anyone has the TV Tech Ops I-Z photo I would be very pleased to see it.


  Geoff F 


  On Sat, Nov 24, 2018 at 9:53 AM Barry Austin via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:

    Hello all

    I was on TO 17,  October-December 1963.   

    Don?t remember much about the course, except it seemed long, I just wanted to get on and work in the studios back in London, but I do remember I was there when President Kennedy was shot. 

    The course must have done me some good, I?m still working, 55 years later, now as LD/VS on EastEnders !

    After the course, on my return to the shiny new Television Centre and the not so shiny Lime Grove, Television Theatre & Riverside at the start of 1964, I shared a flat in West Ealing for a while  with John  Howell, Chris Wilden, Bob Macfarlane and one other, who for the life me I can?t remember, I apologise if it was you, the old grey cells aren?t what they used to be !

    Sorry, don?t have a course photo.

    Barry

    Sent from my iPad

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From davidslawson at btinternet.com  Sat Nov 24 08:25:04 2018
From: davidslawson at btinternet.com (David Lawson)
Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2018 14:25:04 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Tech Ops course
In-Reply-To: <CAB99AB_haL1RSJBQDE-STed9MiJQsgtUY2vKo2FjkBu9sr9_-g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <350CC888-DE9F-458E-85C9-537BA2D3BCA8@yahoo.co.uk>
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Hi Geoff

I?m sure you would like me to correct you so I will. My course, TO18 had two ladies from radio ops but I don?t know if they were the first.

Dave Lawson

> On 24 Nov 2018, at 12:13, Geoff Fletcher via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> I was on TO19 - April 13 to 17 July 1964. It was the first course to be blessed with the presence of female Radio Tech Ops from BH etc.
> There were four course photographs, two each for the Radio Tech Ops and TV TechOps. I'm missing  the TV Tech Ops photo I - Z.  Here
> they, with names as far as possible.
> 



From mibridge at mac.com  Sat Nov 24 08:46:52 2018
From: mibridge at mac.com (Mike Giles)
Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2018 14:46:52 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Course pic
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Apple Mail and Preview allow the addition of quite flexible text. 

Mike g

> On 24 Nov 2018, at 08:49, John Howell via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> Sorry Geoff, maybe I'll have another go with white lettering if we get some more names.
> 
> I seem to remember I was discovering how badly Photoshop handled text.
> 
> Hibou.
> 
> 
> 
>> On 24/11/2018 07:41, Geoff Fletcher via Tech1 wrote:
>> Should have said ?difficult to READ?.
>> Geoff F
>> 
>>> On Sat, 24 Nov 2018 at 07:39, Geoff Fletcher <geoffletch at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I wish the names were in white. I find the red text difficult tobresd. Must get new glasses!
>>> Geoff F
>>> 
>>>> On Sat, 24 Nov 2018 at 00:27, Dave Plowman via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
>>>> In article <06fd11c8-223d-1abd-c2ec-2b103af4893d at howell61.f9.co.uk>,
>>>>    John Howell via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
>>>> > You're both labeled: David P. front row, 7th. from the left, Dave N. 
>>>> > back row 8th from the left.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I can help with a few, from memory. If I could find my list of those on
>>>> the course, I'm sure it would jog my failing memory further. ;-) If anyone
>>>> has it to hand, would be nice to see it.
>>>> 
>>>> All IIRC. 5) Sam Wilson. 6) Reg Smythe  14) Paul Plowman (no relation)
>>>> 
>>>> Now for more wild guesses.
>>>> 
>>>> 6) Derek Askew?
>>>> 
>>>> Oddly I thought 3) was Rod Stebbin
>>>> 
>>>> -- 
>>>> *I have plenty of talent and vision. I just don't care.
>>>> 
>>>>     Dave Plowman     dave at davesound.co.uk     London SW 12
>>>> 
>>>> 
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From ohbytheway.tv at gmail.com  Sat Nov 24 08:53:31 2018
From: ohbytheway.tv at gmail.com (David Denness)
Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2018 14:53:31 -0000
Subject: [Tech1] Tech Ops course
In-Reply-To: <1DEB037C-152B-4179-A3F7-B3E2E56AE943@btinternet.com>
References: <350CC888-DE9F-458E-85C9-537BA2D3BCA8@yahoo.co.uk>	<CAB99AB_haL1RSJBQDE-STed9MiJQsgtUY2vKo2FjkBu9sr9_-g@mail.gmail.com>
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I was about to say the same regarding TO18 and the two young ladies. As far as I can remember they were not actually part of TO18 but concurrent with it

-----Original Message-----
From: Tech1 <tech1-bounces at tech-ops.co.uk> On Behalf Of David Lawson via Tech1
Sent: 24 November 2018 14:25
To: Geoff Fletcher <geoffletch at gmail.com>
Cc: Tech-Ops Group Group <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [Tech1] Tech Ops course

Hi Geoff

I?m sure you would like me to correct you so I will. My course, TO18 had two ladies from radio ops but I don?t know if they were the first.

Dave Lawson

> On 24 Nov 2018, at 12:13, Geoff Fletcher via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> I was on TO19 - April 13 to 17 July 1964. It was the first course to be blessed with the presence of female Radio Tech Ops from BH etc.
> There were four course photographs, two each for the Radio Tech Ops 
> and TV TechOps. I'm missing  the TV Tech Ops photo I - Z.  Here they, with names as far as possible.
> 


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From dave.mdv at btinternet.com  Sat Nov 24 10:02:41 2018
From: dave.mdv at btinternet.com (dave.mdv)
Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2018 16:02:41 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Test Chart
Message-ID: <2668d027-0f49-0a05-6ad9-dafba6d0a26a@btinternet.com>

Here's one I've not seen before, it appeared after a downloaded movie 
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From jccglass at gmail.com  Sat Nov 24 17:46:58 2018
From: jccglass at gmail.com (Chris on gmail)
Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2018 23:46:58 -0000
Subject: [Tech1] to Course pics
References: <95e21665-b88f-bd14-71d0-dd4fb59b735b@gmail.com><af3dddf4-16f3-757f-7efc-b0c4eaf226e2@talktalk.net><F95D6C91-0AC1-4952-99AB-1DF8ADA1CA3A@icloud.com><04D2A5C0-B9EE-49D5-BEE0-651759832D15@btinternet.com><B1844C15-BC35-4FB7-86CF-933373FB6F47@gmail.com><79f74333-8a80-5c37-8310-79256c0ce999@ntlworld.com><ef9537ff-3e05-3a8b-08ce-13aff3701d29@howell61.f9.co.uk><575ba36803dave@davesound.co.uk>
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Bernie
could we have a page on the tech ops site to save all these course piccies?
im dammed if i can remember half those on my course

1 pete hider
2Mike Mccarthy
3Pete Valentine?
4 
5 Ian Perry
6 damm ishould know this
7Julian clapham
8 ?
9 john Henshall
10?
11?
12 Paul Salenger?
13 Chris Glass
14 Frank Smith
15 ?
16?

corrections/additions  please
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From geoffletch at gmail.com  Sat Nov 24 18:23:31 2018
From: geoffletch at gmail.com (Geoff Fletcher)
Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2018 00:23:31 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] to Course pics
In-Reply-To: <D403ECD91C904CB192EBF2F66D909BBC@dell9100>
References: <95e21665-b88f-bd14-71d0-dd4fb59b735b@gmail.com>
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	<79f74333-8a80-5c37-8310-79256c0ce999@ntlworld.com>
	<ef9537ff-3e05-3a8b-08ce-13aff3701d29@howell61.f9.co.uk>
	<575ba36803dave@davesound.co.uk>
	<D5A390B747314939A09A44CD8591DDE7@DESKTOP6GGCRV1>
	<D403ECD91C904CB192EBF2F66D909BBC@dell9100>
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6 Ian Ridley?
10 John ? (Sound Assistant mare of Dave Jorgensen)
Geoff F

On Sat, 24 Nov 2018 at 23:47, Chris on gmail via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
wrote:

> Bernie
> could we have a page on the tech ops site to save all these course piccies?
> im dammed if i can remember half those on my course
>
> 1 pete hider
> 2Mike Mccarthy
> 3Pete Valentine?
> 4
> 5 Ian Perry
> 6 damm ishould know this
> 7Julian clapham
> 8 ?
> 9 john Henshall
> 10?
> 11?
> 12 Paul Salenger?
> 13 Chris Glass
> 14 Frank Smith
> 15 ?
> 16?
>
> corrections/additions  please--
> Tech1 mailing list
> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk
>
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From nick at nickway.co.uk  Sun Nov 25 01:57:28 2018
From: nick at nickway.co.uk (Nick Way)
Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2018 07:57:28 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [Tech1] Tech Ops course
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References: <350CC888-DE9F-458E-85C9-537BA2D3BCA8@yahoo.co.uk>
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From hughsheppard at btinternet.com  Sun Nov 25 02:16:14 2018
From: hughsheppard at btinternet.com (Hugh Sheppard)
Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2018 08:16:14 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] to Course pics
In-Reply-To: <D403ECD91C904CB192EBF2F66D909BBC@dell9100>
References: <95e21665-b88f-bd14-71d0-dd4fb59b735b@gmail.com>
	<af3dddf4-16f3-757f-7efc-b0c4eaf226e2@talktalk.net>
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	<ef9537ff-3e05-3a8b-08ce-13aff3701d29@howell61.f9.co.uk>
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Re. TO 13 1961, I too recognise more faces than names, such as for no. 3 
back row, but who is not Pete Valentine.

We've recently seen him top left in a TV intake of 1953 I'd saved - as 
re-attached. Also noting one Tony Taylor top row 3rd from right.

Canst anyone locate my 1958 PTO course? No. 1 I think it was, with Geoff 
Feld, Roger Fenna, Julian Tolkein, and many others in the shadows of the 
mind?

Hugh


On 24-Nov-18 11:46 PM, Chris on gmail via Tech1 wrote:
> Bernie
> could we have a page on the tech ops site to save all these course 
> piccies?
> im dammed if i can remember half those on my course
>
> 1 pete hider
> 2Mike Mccarthy
> 3Pete Valentine?
> 4 5 Ian Perry
> 6 damm ishould know this
> 7Julian clapham
> 8 ?
> 9 john Henshall
> 10?
> 11?
> 12 Paul Salenger?
> 13 Chris Glass
> 14 Frank Smith
> 15 ?
> 16?
>
> corrections/additions? please
>
>

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From bernie833 at gmail.com  Sun Nov 25 03:02:03 2018
From: bernie833 at gmail.com (Bernard Newnham)
Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2018 09:02:03 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] to Course pics
In-Reply-To: <D403ECD91C904CB192EBF2F66D909BBC@dell9100>
References: <95e21665-b88f-bd14-71d0-dd4fb59b735b@gmail.com>
	<af3dddf4-16f3-757f-7efc-b0c4eaf226e2@talktalk.net>
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	<ef9537ff-3e05-3a8b-08ce-13aff3701d29@howell61.f9.co.uk>
	<575ba36803dave@davesound.co.uk>
	<D5A390B747314939A09A44CD8591DDE7@DESKTOP6GGCRV1>
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Hi Chris, and all

There is already a page. You select categories on the website, down on 
the right of the page, then Evesham. There are a number of results, but 
this is the biggest -

http://tech-ops.co.uk/next/2010/11/evesham-course-pictures/

B



On 24/11/2018 23:46, Chris on gmail via Tech1 wrote:
> Bernie
> could we have a page on the tech ops site to save all these course 
> piccies?
> im dammed if i can remember half those on my course
>
> 1 pete hider
> 2Mike Mccarthy
> 3Pete Valentine?
> 4 5 Ian Perry
> 6 damm ishould know this
> 7Julian clapham
> 8 ?
> 9 john Henshall
> 10?
> 11?
> 12 Paul Salenger?
> 13 Chris Glass
> 14 Frank Smith
> 15 ?
> 16?
>
> corrections/additions? please
>

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From bernie833 at gmail.com  Sun Nov 25 03:02:53 2018
From: bernie833 at gmail.com (Bernard Newnham)
Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2018 09:02:53 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] to Course pics
In-Reply-To: <D403ECD91C904CB192EBF2F66D909BBC@dell9100>
References: <95e21665-b88f-bd14-71d0-dd4fb59b735b@gmail.com>
	<af3dddf4-16f3-757f-7efc-b0c4eaf226e2@talktalk.net>
	<F95D6C91-0AC1-4952-99AB-1DF8ADA1CA3A@icloud.com>
	<04D2A5C0-B9EE-49D5-BEE0-651759832D15@btinternet.com>
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	<ef9537ff-3e05-3a8b-08ce-13aff3701d29@howell61.f9.co.uk>
	<575ba36803dave@davesound.co.uk>
	<D5A390B747314939A09A44CD8591DDE7@DESKTOP6GGCRV1>
	<D403ECD91C904CB192EBF2F66D909BBC@dell9100>
Message-ID: <6d4300e7-0e91-937a-8f7d-f1500ec0802b@gmail.com>

Hi Chris, and all

There is already a page. You select categories on the website, down on 
the right of the page, then Evesham. There are a number of results, but 
this is the biggest -

http://tech-ops.co.uk/next/2010/11/evesham-course-pictures/

B



On 24/11/2018 23:46, Chris on gmail via Tech1 wrote:
> Bernie
> could we have a page on the tech ops site to save all these course 
> piccies?
> im dammed if i can remember half those on my course
>
> 1 pete hider
> 2Mike Mccarthy
> 3Pete Valentine?
> 4 5 Ian Perry
> 6 damm ishould know this
> 7Julian clapham
> 8 ?
> 9 john Henshall
> 10?
> 11?
> 12 Paul Salenger?
> 13 Chris Glass
> 14 Frank Smith
> 15 ?
> 16?
>
> corrections/additions? please
>

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From barrybonner119 at btinternet.com  Sun Nov 25 04:16:39 2018
From: barrybonner119 at btinternet.com (Barry Bonner)
Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2018 10:16:39 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] to Course pics
In-Reply-To: <D403ECD91C904CB192EBF2F66D909BBC@dell9100>
References: <95e21665-b88f-bd14-71d0-dd4fb59b735b@gmail.com><af3dddf4-16f3-757f-7efc-b0c4eaf226e2@talktalk.net><F95D6C91-0AC1-4952-99AB-1DF8ADA1CA3A@icloud.com><04D2A5C0-B9EE-49D5-BEE0-651759832D15@btinternet.com><B1844C15-BC35-4FB7-86CF-933373FB6F47@gmail.com><79f74333-8a80-5c37-8310-79256c0ce999@ntlworld.com><ef9537ff-3e05-3a8b-08ce-13aff3701d29@howell61.f9.co.uk><575ba36803dave@davesound.co.uk>
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Message-ID: <18E5AFD0-B885-4EE0-9363-D66BE0463F71@btinternet.com>

No.10 John Sandiford.
Barry.



On 24 Nov 2018, at 23:46, Chris on gmail via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:

> Bernie
> could we have a page on the tech ops site to save all these course piccies?
> im dammed if i can remember half those on my course
> 
> 1 pete hider
> 2Mike Mccarthy
> 3Pete Valentine?
> 4 5 Ian Perry
> 6 damm ishould know this
> 7Julian clapham
> 8 ?
> 9 john Henshall
> 10?
> 11?
> 12 Paul Salenger?
> 13 Chris Glass
> 14 Frank Smith
> 15 ?
> 16?
> 
> corrections/additions  please<TO 13  1961.jpg>-- 
> Tech1 mailing list
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From alawrance1 at me.com  Sun Nov 25 05:44:36 2018
From: alawrance1 at me.com (Alasdair Lawrance)
Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2018 11:44:36 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] to Course pics
In-Reply-To: <6d4300e7-0e91-937a-8f7d-f1500ec0802b@gmail.com>
References: <95e21665-b88f-bd14-71d0-dd4fb59b735b@gmail.com>
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	<F95D6C91-0AC1-4952-99AB-1DF8ADA1CA3A@icloud.com>
	<04D2A5C0-B9EE-49D5-BEE0-651759832D15@btinternet.com>
	<B1844C15-BC35-4FB7-86CF-933373FB6F47@gmail.com>
	<79f74333-8a80-5c37-8310-79256c0ce999@ntlworld.com>
	<ef9537ff-3e05-3a8b-08ce-13aff3701d29@howell61.f9.co.uk>
	<575ba36803dave@davesound.co.uk>
	<D5A390B747314939A09A44CD8591DDE7@DESKTOP6GGCRV1>
	<D403ECD91C904CB192EBF2F66D909BBC@dell9100>
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B -

Yet again I?m appreciative of the work you put in to the site, I wish I had your knowledge and skill!

Is it possible to annotate the pics with their title, and if possible, dates?  Detailed names could come later, as the hive memory gets up to speed.

 
Alasdair Lawrance
alawrance1 at me.com






On 25 Nov 2018, at 09:02, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:

Hi Chris, and all

There is already a page. You select categories on the website, down on the right of the page, then Evesham. There are a number of results, but this is the biggest - 

http://tech-ops.co.uk/next/2010/11/evesham-course-pictures/ <http://tech-ops.co.uk/next/2010/11/evesham-course-pictures/>

B



On 24/11/2018 23:46, Chris on gmail via Tech1 wrote:
> Bernie 
> could we have a page on the tech ops site to save all these course piccies? 
> im dammed if i can remember half those on my course 
> 
> 1 pete hider 
> 2Mike Mccarthy 
> 3Pete Valentine? 
> 4 5 Ian Perry 
> 6 damm ishould know this 
> 7Julian clapham 
> 8 ? 
> 9 john Henshall 
> 10? 
> 11? 
> 12 Paul Salenger? 
> 13 Chris Glass 
> 14 Frank Smith 
> 15 ? 
> 16? 
> 
> corrections/additions  please
> 

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From jpn at imixmics.co.uk  Sun Nov 25 05:58:07 2018
From: jpn at imixmics.co.uk (John Nottage)
Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2018 11:58:07 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] to Course pics
In-Reply-To: <7f24fe86-4a70-1926-864b-67d1ee30d8ce@ntlworld.com>
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Message-ID: <1ed067e2-33b8-96c0-26d4-dab185d806a5@imixmics.co.uk>

Can't see TO25 amongst your pic gallery, so here it is.

John

On 25/11/2018 09:02, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 wrote:
> Hi Chris, and all
> 
> There is already a page. You select categories on the website, down on 
> the right of the page, then Evesham. There are a number of results, but 
> this is the biggest -
> 
> http://tech-ops.co.uk/next/2010/11/evesham-course-pictures/
> 
> B
> 
> 
> 
> On 24/11/2018 23:46, Chris on gmail via Tech1 wrote:
>> Bernie
>> could we have a page on the tech ops site to save all these course 
>> piccies?
>> im dammed if i can remember half those on my course
>>
>> 1 pete hider
>> 2Mike Mccarthy
>> 3Pete Valentine?
>> 4 5 Ian Perry
>> 6 damm ishould know this
>> 7Julian clapham
>> 8 ?
>> 9 john Henshall
>> 10?
>> 11?
>> 12 Paul Salenger?
>> 13 Chris Glass
>> 14 Frank Smith
>> 15 ?
>> 16?
>>
>> corrections/additions? please
>>
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From peter.neill at icloud.com  Sun Nov 25 06:01:47 2018
From: peter.neill at icloud.com (Peter Neill)
Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2018 12:01:47 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] to Course pics
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3 Pat Heigham
6 Ian Ridley
10 John Sandiford
16 Bish???


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> On 24 Nov 2018, at 23:46, Chris on gmail via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> Bernie
> could we have a page on the tech ops site to save all these course piccies?
> im dammed if i can remember half those on my course
> 
> 1 pete hider
> 2Mike Mccarthy
> 3Pete Valentine?
> 4 5 Ian Perry
> 6 damm ishould know this
> 7Julian clapham
> 8 ?
> 9 john Henshall
> 10?
> 11?
> 12 Paul Salenger?
> 13 Chris Glass
> 14 Frank Smith
> 15 ?
> 16?
> 
> corrections/additions  please<TO 13  1961.jpg>-- 
> Tech1 mailing list
> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
> http://track.smtpsendemail.com/20919/c?p=68ItwT0unm_5GoPKpIZM_4SV7jK8p83oM6Zj9zvc5CJbu4NGk_MnGLiUFPv-FgorlsaXr3frL3fxMVHtOxeEFGCV2sT3zm1mV8oAFTqz6BkRVEUPxQh21zbD3GnwJiGwJc07iwAemCU34oEynWvOQTLIRn6IWzJSF4TXWlVlEMk=

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From david.jasma at sky.com  Sun Nov 25 07:26:07 2018
From: david.jasma at sky.com (Dave Buckley)
Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2018 13:26:07 -0000
Subject: [Tech1] course photos - TO19 particularly
Message-ID: <000c01d484c2$6cabfe80$4603fb80$@sky.com>

Having looked at the photos from this course, I recognise at least four
people I have worked with in later years, but not in the areas that the
course covered.........

TV section A-H:
Middle row 2nd in from right - Bryn Edwards. I think he went on to be a
Studio Manager at TC as he came across to the Woodstock Grove Training
studio on occasions.

Radio section O-Z:
Back row 2nd from right - Ian Sanson. He went to TFS Ealing as a sound
recordist. 
Also back row, 2nd from left - Bob Saunders - there was a dubbing mixer at
TFS called Bob Saunders, is this the same person?

Middle row of the A-H photo, 2nd in right - John Hale. I worked with him in
dubbing theatre X where he was a dubbing mixer around 1967/8.

Dave Buckley




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From paul at pgtmedia.co.uk  Sun Nov 25 07:35:22 2018
From: paul at pgtmedia.co.uk (Paul Thackray)
Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2018 13:35:22 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] course photos - TO19 particularly
In-Reply-To: <000c01d484c2$6cabfe80$4603fb80$@sky.com>
Message-ID: <daqmh5l084mc5d4h6tmc5v0c.1543152922836@pgtmedia.co.uk>

Bryn was defiantly in the Lighting department at tvc. I remember him in the 80s and 90s as console op and lighting director. I can not remember when he left. 



Paul Thackray

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From: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
Sent: 25 November 2018 13:26
To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
Reply to: david.jasma at sky.com
Subject: [Tech1] course photos - TO19 particularly


Having looked at the photos from this course, I recognise at least four
 people I have worked with in later years, but not in the areas that the
 course covered.........

 TV section A-H:
 Middle row 2nd in from right - Bryn Edwards. I think he went on to be a
 Studio Manager at TC as he came across to the Woodstock Grove Training
 studio on occasions.

 Radio section O-Z:
 Back row 2nd from right - Ian Sanson. He went to TFS Ealing as a sound
 recordist.
 Also back row, 2nd from left - Bob Saunders - there was a dubbing mixer at
 TFS called Bob Saunders, is this the same person?

 Middle row of the A-H photo, 2nd in right - John Hale. I worked with him in
 dubbing theatre X where he was a dubbing mixer around 1967/8.

 Dave Buckley




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From geoffletch at gmail.com  Sun Nov 25 08:35:48 2018
From: geoffletch at gmail.com (Geoff Fletcher)
Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2018 14:35:48 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] course photos - TO19 particularly
In-Reply-To: <daqmh5l084mc5d4h6tmc5v0c.1543152922836@pgtmedia.co.uk>
References: <000c01d484c2$6cabfe80$4603fb80$@sky.com>
	<daqmh5l084mc5d4h6tmc5v0c.1543152922836@pgtmedia.co.uk>
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Bryn went into Vision Control from cameras after I left in 1970. He lived
in Maidenhead back then.
Geoff F

On Sun, Nov 25, 2018 at 1:35 PM Paul Thackray via Tech1 <
tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:

> Bryn was defiantly in the Lighting department at tvc. I remember him in
> the 80s and 90s as console op and lighting director. I can not remember
> when he left.
>
>
>
> Paul Thackray
>
> PGT Media Consulting Ltd.
>
> 07802 243979
>
> Mail; paul at pgtmedia.co.uk
>
> Web; http://www.pgtmedia.co.uk
>
> Linkedin;   http://uk.linkedin.com/pub/paul-thackray/19/379/746
>
> IMDB; http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1488554/
>
> sent from my BlackBerry?the most secure mobile device?via the O2 Network
>
>
>           Original Message
>
>
>
> From: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
> Sent: 25 November 2018 13:26
> To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
> Reply to: david.jasma at sky.com
> Subject: [Tech1] course photos - TO19 particularly
>
>
> Having looked at the photos from this course, I recognise at least four
>  people I have worked with in later years, but not in the areas that the
>  course covered.........
>
>  TV section A-H:
>  Middle row 2nd in from right - Bryn Edwards. I think he went on to be a
>  Studio Manager at TC as he came across to the Woodstock Grove Training
>  studio on occasions.
>
>  Radio section O-Z:
>  Back row 2nd from right - Ian Sanson. He went to TFS Ealing as a sound
>  recordist.
>  Also back row, 2nd from left - Bob Saunders - there was a dubbing mixer at
>  TFS called Bob Saunders, is this the same person?
>
>  Middle row of the A-H photo, 2nd in right - John Hale. I worked with him
> in
>  dubbing theatre X where he was a dubbing mixer around 1967/8.
>
>  Dave Buckley
>
>
>
>
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From bernie833 at gmail.com  Sun Nov 25 08:46:22 2018
From: bernie833 at gmail.com (Bernard Newnham)
Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2018 14:46:22 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] to Course pics
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Thank you, very kind.

I don't know about you lot, but I now have a large number of posts with 
names and speculative names about different courses, all mixed together.

It would be good, I think, if someone who isn't me or Alex could do a 
collation job on as many pics as possible. Then I'll put them all on a 
page with captions. Some, like TO25, are fully done already, some are empty.

The ones I have from the email list are now here - 
http://www.tech-ops.co.uk/bern/evesham/

Volunteers please

B

PS - Ken Webb will hopefully email any time. He's maybe planning a 
pre-Christmas Disorganised



On 25/11/2018 11:44, Alasdair Lawrance wrote:
> B -
>
> Yet again I?m appreciative of the work you put in to the site, I wish 
> I had your knowledge and skill!
>
> Is it possible to annotate the pics with their title, and if possible, 
> dates? ?Detailed names could come later, as the hive memory gets up to 
> speed.
>
>
> Alasdair Lawrance
> alawrance1 at me.com <mailto:alawrance1 at me.com>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 25 Nov 2018, at 09:02, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 
> <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk <mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>> wrote:
>
> Hi Chris, and all
>
> There is already a page. You select categories on the website, down on 
> the right of the page, then Evesham. There are a number of results, 
> but this is the biggest -
>
> http://tech-ops.co.uk/next/2010/11/evesham-course-pictures/
>
> B
>
>
>
> On 24/11/2018 23:46, Chris on gmail via Tech1 wrote:
>> Bernie
>> could we have a page on the tech ops site to save all these course 
>> piccies?
>> im dammed if i can remember half those on my course
>>
>> 1 pete hider
>> 2Mike Mccarthy
>> 3Pete Valentine?
>> 4 5 Ian Perry
>> 6 damm ishould know this
>> 7Julian clapham
>> 8 ?
>> 9 john Henshall
>> 10?
>> 11?
>> 12 Paul Salenger?
>> 13 Chris Glass
>> 14 Frank Smith
>> 15 ?
>> 16?
>>
>> corrections/additions? please
>>
>
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From geoffletch at gmail.com  Sun Nov 25 08:46:25 2018
From: geoffletch at gmail.com (Geoff Fletcher)
Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2018 14:46:25 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] course photos - TO19 particularly
In-Reply-To: <CAB99AB-qCM-t=OUto6EBu=sjemixy8WXjp=iLXVnT4NgM0Eu1w@mail.gmail.com>
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Dave - A-H pic Middle Row A-H second in right is definitely Bryn Edwards.
Do you mean Middle Row second in right o the Radio Tech Ops A-N pic
perhsaps?
Geoff F

On Sun, Nov 25, 2018 at 2:35 PM Geoff Fletcher <geoffletch at gmail.com> wrote:

> Bryn went into Vision Control from cameras after I left in 1970. He lived
> in Maidenhead back then.
> Geoff F
>
> On Sun, Nov 25, 2018 at 1:35 PM Paul Thackray via Tech1 <
> tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Bryn was defiantly in the Lighting department at tvc. I remember him in
>> the 80s and 90s as console op and lighting director. I can not remember
>> when he left.
>>
>>
>>
>> Paul Thackray
>>
>> PGT Media Consulting Ltd.
>>
>> 07802 243979
>>
>> Mail; paul at pgtmedia.co.uk
>>
>> Web; http://www.pgtmedia.co.uk
>>
>> Linkedin;   http://uk.linkedin.com/pub/paul-thackray/19/379/746
>>
>> IMDB; http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1488554/
>>
>> sent from my BlackBerry?the most secure mobile device?via the O2 Network
>>
>>
>>           Original Message
>>
>>
>>
>> From: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
>> Sent: 25 November 2018 13:26
>> To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
>> Reply to: david.jasma at sky.com
>> Subject: [Tech1] course photos - TO19 particularly
>>
>>
>> Having looked at the photos from this course, I recognise at least four
>>  people I have worked with in later years, but not in the areas that the
>>  course covered.........
>>
>>  TV section A-H:
>>  Middle row 2nd in from right - Bryn Edwards. I think he went on to be a
>>  Studio Manager at TC as he came across to the Woodstock Grove Training
>>  studio on occasions.
>>
>>  Radio section O-Z:
>>  Back row 2nd from right - Ian Sanson. He went to TFS Ealing as a sound
>>  recordist.
>>  Also back row, 2nd from left - Bob Saunders - there was a dubbing mixer
>> at
>>  TFS called Bob Saunders, is this the same person?
>>
>>  Middle row of the A-H photo, 2nd in right - John Hale. I worked with him
>> in
>>  dubbing theatre X where he was a dubbing mixer around 1967/8.
>>
>>  Dave Buckley
>>
>>
>>
>>
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From dave at davesound.co.uk  Sun Nov 25 09:07:12 2018
From: dave at davesound.co.uk (Dave Plowman)
Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2018 15:07:12 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [Tech1] to Course pics
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	<ef9537ff-3e05-3a8b-08ce-13aff3701d29@howell61.f9.co.uk>
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Message-ID: <575c8a50a3dave@davesound.co.uk>

In article <94cfa06d-4c92-1349-32bc-c4d4a4ae1b59 at gmail.com>,
   Bernard Newnham via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> Thank you, very kind.

> I don't know about you lot, but I now have a large number of posts with 
> names and speculative names about different courses, all mixed together.

> It would be good, I think, if someone who isn't me or Alex could do a 
> collation job on as many pics as possible. Then I'll put them all on a 
> page with captions. Some, like TO25, are fully done already, some are empty.

> The ones I have from the email list are now here - 
> http://www.tech-ops.co.uk/bern/evesham/

> Volunteers please

Other thing that would be nice would be a list from the course of those
attending it. I'm sure they existed - just can't find mine. I have found
the files I've got containing most of my other course stuff.

I'm sure it would jog memories and help fit names to faces.

-- 
*Frustration is trying to find your glasses without your glasses.

    Dave Plowman     dave at davesound.co.uk     London SW 12
    


From dnewbitt at fireflyuk.net  Sun Nov 25 14:07:04 2018
From: dnewbitt at fireflyuk.net (David Newbitt)
Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2018 20:07:04 -0000
Subject: [Tech1] to Course pics
In-Reply-To: <575c8a50a3dave@davesound.co.uk>
References: <95e21665-b88f-bd14-71d0-dd4fb59b735b@gmail.com><af3dddf4-16f3-757f-7efc-b0c4eaf226e2@talktalk.net><F95D6C91-0AC1-4952-99AB-1DF8ADA1CA3A@icloud.com><04D2A5C0-B9EE-49D5-BEE0-651759832D15@btinternet.com><B1844C15-BC35-4FB7-86CF-933373FB6F47@gmail.com><79f74333-8a80-5c37-8310-79256c0ce999@ntlworld.com><ef9537ff-3e05-3a8b-08ce-13aff3701d29@howell61.f9.co.uk><575ba36803dave@davesound.co.uk><D5A390B747314939A09A44CD8591DDE7@DESKTOP6GGCRV1><D403ECD91C904CB192EBF2F66D909BBC@dell9100><6d4300e7-0e91-937a-8f7d-f1500ec0802b@gmail.com><100A8736-068F-4B16-9AD2-D127465A204C@me.com><94cfa06d-4c92-1349-32bc-c4d4a4ae1b59@gmail.com>
	<575c8a50a3dave@davesound.co.uk>
Message-ID: <76DB3B21D1FC410BA607219DC9646D7E@DESKTOP6GGCRV1>

Re the TO15 photo :-

3 = Rod Stebbing;    4 = Roy Chambers;   8 = JFW 'Chas' Chester;   9 = Sam 
Wilson;   10 = Reg Smythe;    13 = poss Dave Geen?;
The chap identified as Rod Stebbing is definitely not Rod (see 3 above). It 
might be Don Fraser?

Possible names for the blanks might include J.C. Richards and J.F. Pond.

Great to see this initiative

Dave Newbitt.

-----Original Message----- 
From: Dave Plowman via Tech1
Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2018 3:07 PM
To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
Subject: Re: [Tech1] to Course pics

In article <94cfa06d-4c92-1349-32bc-c4d4a4ae1b59 at gmail.com>,
   Bernard Newnham via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> Thank you, very kind.

> I don't know about you lot, but I now have a large number of posts with
> names and speculative names about different courses, all mixed together.

> It would be good, I think, if someone who isn't me or Alex could do a
> collation job on as many pics as possible. Then I'll put them all on a
> page with captions. Some, like TO25, are fully done already, some are 
> empty.

> The ones I have from the email list are now here -
> http://www.tech-ops.co.uk/bern/evesham/

> Volunteers please

Other thing that would be nice would be a list from the course of those
attending it. I'm sure they existed - just can't find mine. I have found
the files I've got containing most of my other course stuff.

I'm sure it would jog memories and help fit names to faces.

-- 
*Frustration is trying to find your glasses without your glasses.

    Dave Plowman     dave at davesound.co.uk     London SW 12


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From dave.mdv at btinternet.com  Sun Nov 25 18:18:35 2018
From: dave.mdv at btinternet.com (dave.mdv)
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2018 00:18:35 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Polish beer
Message-ID: <09100f6e-6fc1-f18f-2e9a-5b405c1519d8@btinternet.com>

My local off-licence has a good stock of Polish beers for all the 
builders doing non-stop loft conversions in my area! He has just offered 
me a new one called 'WARWKA' at a mere 6.5 %, brewed from 'pilsen and 
dark roasted'! I will let you know if I survive! Cheers, hic, Dave


From ken_webb at btinternet.com  Tue Nov 27 07:52:37 2018
From: ken_webb at btinternet.com (Ken)
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2018 13:52:37 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Disorganised 12th December
Message-ID: <30459CB9-BE3E-4D2C-8674-436073563F4C@btinternet.com>



This will be at Wetherspoons in Kingston ion Thames. Do come everyone!!! Ken Webb 


From ken_webb at btinternet.com  Tue Nov 27 08:27:02 2018
From: ken_webb at btinternet.com (Ken)
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2018 14:27:02 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Address Wetherspoons
Message-ID: <2C65C0D6-713C-44C6-82CA-4708642AEB12@btinternet.com>



Wetherspoons 153-157 Clarence St KT1 1QT


From dave.mdv at btinternet.com  Tue Nov 27 08:38:27 2018
From: dave.mdv at btinternet.com (dave.mdv)
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2018 14:38:27 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Disorganised Dec. 12th.
Message-ID: <8a53a443-b46e-53c0-1049-99172d5d0300@btinternet.com>

Thanks Ken, couldn't be better (for me!), it's between a bus station and 
Kingston railway station, for those who don't know the area. Cheers, Dave


From j at howell61.f9.co.uk  Wed Nov 28 04:24:03 2018
From: j at howell61.f9.co.uk (John Howell)
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2018 10:24:03 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] to TO15 Course pics latest
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Hi Everyone,

Following suggestions I've added some more names to the TO 15 photo 
(attached)

and clarified the text for those who are chromatically challenged.

Best Wishes,

Hibou.





On 25/11/2018 20:07, David Newbitt via Tech1 wrote:
> Re the TO15 photo :-
>
> 3 = Rod Stebbing;??? 4 = Roy Chambers;?? 8 = JFW 'Chas' Chester; 9 = 
> Sam Wilson;?? 10 = Reg Smythe;??? 13 = poss Dave Geen?;
> The chap identified as Rod Stebbing is definitely not Rod (see 3 
> above). It might be Don Fraser?
>
> Possible names for the blanks might include J.C. Richards and J.F. Pond.
>
> Great to see this initiative
>
> Dave Newbitt.
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Dave Plowman via Tech1
> Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2018 3:07 PM
> To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
> Subject: Re: [Tech1] to Course pics
>
> In article <94cfa06d-4c92-1349-32bc-c4d4a4ae1b59 at gmail.com>,
> ? Bernard Newnham via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
>> Thank you, very kind.
>
>> I don't know about you lot, but I now have a large number of posts with
>> names and speculative names about different courses, all mixed together.
>
>> It would be good, I think, if someone who isn't me or Alex could do a
>> collation job on as many pics as possible. Then I'll put them all on a
>> page with captions. Some, like TO25, are fully done already, some are 
>> empty.
>
>> The ones I have from the email list are now here -
>> http://www.tech-ops.co.uk/bern/evesham/
>
>> Volunteers please
>
> Other thing that would be nice would be a list from the course of those
> attending it. I'm sure they existed - just can't find mine. I have found
> the files I've got containing most of my other course stuff.
>
> I'm sure it would jog memories and help fit names to faces.
>

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From dave at davesound.co.uk  Wed Nov 28 05:01:03 2018
From: dave at davesound.co.uk (Dave Plowman)
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2018 11:01:03 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [Tech1] to TO15 Course pics latest
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Message-ID: <575dff49a4dave@davesound.co.uk>

Thanks John. Think 7 is Don Fraser. We're getting there. ;-) 


In article <ef7e57af-4605-fb10-b350-e0eacb17af28 at howell61.f9.co.uk>,
   John Howell via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> Hi Everyone,

> Following suggestions I've added some more names to the TO 15 photo 
> (attached)

> and clarified the text for those who are chromatically challenged.

> Best Wishes,

> Hibou.

-- 
*There are 3 kinds of people:  those who can count & those who can't.

    Dave Plowman     dave at davesound.co.uk     London SW 12
    


From bernie833 at gmail.com  Wed Nov 28 15:31:02 2018
From: bernie833 at gmail.com (Bernard Newnham)
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2018 21:31:02 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Somewhat off topic
Message-ID: <39516275-ff8c-36f9-49e6-80ac9cbbb304@gmail.com>

In this forum anyway , but I liked it.? Editing something like this 
takes a very long time -

https://youtu.be/oiSn2JuDQSc

B


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From waresound at msn.com  Wed Nov 28 15:58:19 2018
From: waresound at msn.com (Nick Ware)
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2018 21:58:19 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Somewhat off topic
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That?s not an edit - THIS is an edit:
https://www.tinyurl.com/9dp8jed
(See it through to the end!)
Cheers,
Nick.

Sent from Nick?s iPad

On 28 Nov 2018, at 21:31, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk<mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>> wrote:

In this forum anyway , but I liked it.  Editing something like this takes a very long time -

https://youtu.be/oiSn2JuDQSc

B


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From dave.mdv at btinternet.com  Wed Nov 28 17:32:00 2018
From: dave.mdv at btinternet.com (dave.mdv)
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2018 23:32:00 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Somewhat off topic
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Very clever, but why do it? If you want real edits, unfortunately sound 
only, listen to the famous Bush House tapes! Hours of night duty and a 
sharp razor blade can work wonders to studio talkback comments and 
pre-broadcast line-ups. I think Mike Jordan posted a link a few years 
ago. A good friend of mine added even better gun shots to the 'William 
Tell' segment. Cheers, Dave


From dave.mdv at btinternet.com  Wed Nov 28 18:08:02 2018
From: dave.mdv at btinternet.com (dave.mdv)
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2018 00:08:02 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] 42nd. Street
Message-ID: <76e50acb-b08f-771f-072c-62124ce4cbcd@btinternet.com>

My wife's NHS Pensioners Group organised a trip to see '42nd. Street' 
this afternoon, one of Pat Heigham's favourites! I did a Royal Variety 
show in the Theatre Royal, Drury Lane, many years ago, so it was quite 
nice to be the other side of the prosc. arch! The show was great and as 
we were right at the front in the stalls (unlike Pat in the ?125 luxury 
seats in the circle!) I could see the radio mics, of which there were 
lots! I wish I could have gone upstairs to chat to the sound man to find 
out exactly how many channels he had working! (Amazingly, the 'Mama Mia' 
theatre was only a few yards away and there was no interefernce!) 
Anyway, the 'zit' mic capsules were very hard to see but they were 
placed between the top of the ear and the eyebrow! The cable went round 
the back of the head under the hair! You would think that the sound from 
the temple area was not conducive to good audio but I must admit that 
the sound was very good with no HF loss! If only we had had such good 
equipment when I was at work! Cheers, Dave


From keithwicksuk at gmail.com  Thu Nov 29 05:32:22 2018
From: keithwicksuk at gmail.com (Keith Wicks)
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2018 11:32:22 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] [Announce] Disorganised Christmas
In-Reply-To: <2e5921b5-d2b6-ae9d-2de1-750b0ceb9b28@gmail.com>
References: <2e5921b5-d2b6-ae9d-2de1-750b0ceb9b28@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAA=qGJmuiEd1Hk6H+T9p-Fbj9E8a35NmKZhPWFWfr7W1z_wYMw@mail.gmail.com>

I've left a recorded message about this for Don (still no internet) Smith.

On Tue, 27 Nov 2018 at 18:20, Bernard Newnham via Announce <
announce at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:

> Ken Webb has kindly disorganised lunch on 12th December from 1200 at The
> King's Tun, 153-157 Clarence Street, Kingston KT1 1QT - a Wetherspoons with
> the usual huge range of beers.
>
> It's close to Kingston Station, and there are lots of buses. If you're
> approaching from the Waterloo line it might be easier to get off at
> Surbiton and get a bus into Kingston, depending on where you're coming from.
> Announce mailing list
> Announce at tech-ops.co.uk
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From peter.neill at icloud.com  Thu Nov 29 14:41:42 2018
From: peter.neill at icloud.com (Peter Neill)
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2018 20:41:42 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Peter Fletcher
Message-ID: <05A5BD16-F4DE-47A5-BA1B-3751C5043B02@icloud.com>

I?ve just received this from Toby Hadoke, whom some of you might know. If anyone has a photo of Peter-or contact details for his family, could you please let me know and I?ll pass it on to him. 

Thanks

Peter Neill

peter at neill.tv


Hey Peter,

I hope you?re well.

I?m preparing my In Memoriam video of Doctor Who alumni who have passed away in the last 12 months or so. I don?t suppose you have access to any pictures of Peter Fletcher do you? And if there?s anyone else behind the scenes or crew-wise who has passed away this year who I might have forgotten/missed. I?d like it to be ask complete as possible...