From bernie833 at gmail.com  Sun Apr  1 13:38:02 2018
From: bernie833 at gmail.com (Bernard Newnham)
Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2018 19:38:02 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Fwd: Fw:  Smart Meters
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From s.k.edwards at btinternet.com  Sun Apr  1 15:01:16 2018
From: s.k.edwards at btinternet.com (Steve Edwards)
Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2018 21:01:16 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Fwd: Fw:  Smart Meters
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Now you?ve started me off on the subject of insulation..... 

More irreversible damage has been done to thousands of lovely old (& newer) buildings by those clowns high with testosterone wielding masonry hammer drills injecting & spraying foam into those cavities like there?s no tomorrow. 
How those hi-Tech damp- proofing chemicals can actually penetrate 150 year old dense fired impermeable bricks and claim to stop damp forever in this lifetime is beyond me.  

Ahhhh, can get a government grant for ?improvements?
How does that work I wonder ?
Perhaps those MPs can take advantage insulation?s all their second homes or are they simply shareholders in national 0800 telephone number ?government approved? companies offering insulation?

Steve







> On 1 Apr 2018, at 19:38, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> 
> FW from Peter Cook.....
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Peter Cook
> To: Peter Fox ; patrickheigham
> Cc: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
> Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 8:47 PM
> Subject: Re: [Tech1] Smart Meters
> 
> I have 2 meter units, one for 'stored energy' one for day/night. After 10 years SSE sent  man to change one meter. Despite having been fitted together their system proclaimed different replacement dates. I told them politely to p*** o** and that they would be done together. They were persuaded. So what happens I would like to know to the millions of perfectly serviceable meters which get junked?
>  
> SSE recently billed me using estimated readings. I spent a good half hour on the phone because their estimates were do inaccurate the online reading service would not accept the true readings! Yesterday I got the resulting bill. They managed to mix up my day and night readings. That must have been difficult as one was 4 digits and the other 5. It was a couple of hundred quid in their favour. So I spent another 15 minutes on the phone with someone more intelligent (I hope). I haven't decided yet how much per hour to bill them for sorting out their incompetence. My theory is if they can't cope with old technology what hope is there with smart meters?
>  
> As for water, I have a shared supply with next door. When we had a leak many years back a new blue plastic supply was put in. It was supposed to cost a couple of hundred but it must have been too complex as we never got billed. I was offered a meter but it could only be internal. I could not offer a convenient 1 meter length of pipe for them so went on to 'average household charge', which actually reduced my bill from the RV basis. I might save if I had a meter but I do not wish to have the hassle. ?350 a year seems good value.
>  
> There is no gas in the village so I am not impressed with dual fuel offers or surveys which assume that gas is an option. I am sometimes a little unfriendly, like when offered loft insulation by someone who hasn't done their research. They seem sceptical of my three foot deep loft insulation, or at least the ones who have never encountered thatch!
>  
> There is endless amusement to be had if one can be bothered.
>  
> Ciao
>  
> peter
>  
>  
> .
>  
>  
>  ----- Original Message -----
> From: Peter Fox via Tech1
> To: patrickheigham
> Cc: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
> Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 6:35 PM
> Subject: Re: [Tech1] Smart Meters
> 
> Mainly to Mike G: My cousin has had smart gas and electric meters fitted. Both meters had to be replaced, even though the unsmart (Dumbo?) gas meter was only a year old, fitted after a JCB trauma of the gas main next door, so shame about your cupboard. The new battery powered smart gas meter ?talks? locally to the electricity meter, by low power wireless, and the electric meter, having ?unlimited? power available is the mobile phone network communicator. She had a query about her gas reading recently from edf because she appeared not to have used any gas, and would she give them a reading? Yes. She sent me out into the garden to wrestle open the box, and scrabble on the damp ground (BBC training handy there) It said 0000000000
> Was she sure? Yes. Even after pushing some coloured buttons, it still said 0000000000.   So they came and checked, unbelievers. And fitted a new, new smart meter. The first new smart meter was fitted last June. So that?s 8 months free gas. Bargain. 
> The Man told me that the utilities are supposed to fit new gas meters every ten years anyway, so battery life is not reckoned to be an issue. As my own plain old dumbo gas meter is at least thirty years old I take that ten years with a pinch of salt. 
> Peter F
> 
> Crippled Crapple
> 
> On 30 Mar 2018, at 17:02, patrickheigham via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
>> Re: meters
>> Electricity:
>> EDF fitted me with a smart meter - it renders the reading via the Vodafone network,
>> therefore the engineer checked the signal strength before installation.
>> The small remote display screen is quite useful, as it can be switched between various
>> readings - I find the instantaneous consumption to be mostly viewed.
>> Gas:
>> Not gone for that yet.
>> However with Gas central heating I gather that keeping the property up to
>> temperature all day is cheaper than letting it go down to almost cold and boosting later.
>> As I'm retired, I'm in most of the time and I don't like being cold.
>> Water:
>> Definitely best if one or two occupants only.
>> I made a chart for my residents in the three blocks of flats where I reside,
>> going to the extent of measuring the water consumption of handbasin /
>> kitchen sink / bath, for a decent wallow level! / and loo flushing.
>> (Don't have a shower).
>> Car washing and lawn sprinklers will modify that, and the fixed charge
>> might be a better bet.
>>  
>> If your rain water run-off does not go into the main drainage, then there
>> is a discount available - at least for Sutton & East Surrey.
>> This affects the charge for sewage disposal.
>>  
>> If you collect rain water in butts, you could water the grass with a small
>> pump? This brings electricity back into play!!
>>  
>> Best
>> Pat
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Bernard Newnham via Tech1
>> To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
>> Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 10:08 AM
>> Subject: [Tech1] Smart Meters
>> 
>> How do people feel about smart meters?  
>> 
>> Our new provider OVO rang a week ago and asked if we would fit them, and sounded very diffident about it, as if they are controversial.  Yesterday a man came and fitted them in about an hour, and now                                   I never have to crawl into a cupboard with a torch again. We also have a small screen telling us how much we've used, though I knew that anyway and it won't change anything. I've always known that when the boiler goes "woom" I start using the most energy, and I'm not planning to adjust it at all.
>> 
>> So - why are they controversial?
>> 
>> B
>>  
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From dave.mdv at btinternet.com  Sun Apr  1 16:54:36 2018
From: dave.mdv at btinternet.com (dave.mdv)
Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2018 22:54:36 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] 'improvements'
In-Reply-To: <3B4CBDC8-2278-45D7-8ADA-3C5F9CCFADAE@btinternet.com>
References: <86C0842E090E4E2DACB7D0C4F24165B7@henley1092>
	<53486645-37f5-6e5c-a46b-1c795d35a086@gmail.com>
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At least once a week I get a recorded message on my landline to 'inform 
me that I can get a grant for new windows'. Since I had new windows 
installed all round the house within the last 5 years it is very 
annoying! Another common one I get is to tell me that my fibreglass has 
compressed and is worse than useless and I should have the inside of my 
loft sprayed with new stuff. If you saw my loft and it's contents you 
would understand why I am not going to do it! Cheers, Dave. PS Don't 
forget the story about cavity insulation in which the injection nozzle 
went through both layers of bricks and the foam filled the client's 
wardrobes! Ooops!


On 01/04/2018 21:01, Steve Edwards via Tech1 wrote:
> Now you?ve started me off on the subject of insulation.....
>
> More irreversible damage has been done to thousands of lovely old (& 
> newer) buildings by those clowns high with testosterone wielding 
> masonry hammer drills injecting & spraying foam into those cavities 
> like there?s no tomorrow.
> How those hi-Tech damp- proofing chemicals can actually penetrate 150 
> year old dense fired impermeable bricks and claim to stop damp forever 
> in this lifetime is beyond me.
>
> Ahhhh, can get a government grant for ?improvements?
> How does that work I wonder ?
> Perhaps those MPs can take advantage insulation?s all their second 
> homes or are they simply shareholders in national 0800 telephone 
> number ?government approved? companies offering insulation?
>
> Steve
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 1 Apr 2018, at 19:38, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 
> <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk <mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>> wrote:
>
>>
>> FW from Peter Cook.....
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> *From:* Peter Cook <mailto:petercook at lesters.org.uk>
>> *To:* Peter Fox <mailto:peter.fox at tiscali.co.uk> ; patrickheigham 
>> <mailto:patheigham at amps.net>
>> *Cc:* tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk <mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
>> *Sent:* Friday, March 30, 2018 8:47 PM
>> *Subject:* Re: [Tech1] Smart Meters
>>
>> I have 2 meter units, one for 'stored energy' one for day/night. 
>> After 10 years SSE sent? man to change one meter. Despite having been 
>> fitted together their system proclaimed different replacement 
>> dates.?I?told them politely to p*** o** and that they would be done 
>> together. They were persuaded. So what happens I would like to know 
>> to the millions of perfectly serviceable meters which get junked?
>> SSE recently billed me?using estimated readings. I spent a good half 
>> hour on the phone because their estimates were do inaccurate the 
>> online reading service would not accept the true readings! Yesterday 
>> I got the resulting bill. They managed to mix up my day and night 
>> readings. That must have been difficult as one was 4 digits and the 
>> other 5. It was a couple of hundred quid in their favour. So I spent 
>> another 15 minutes on the phone with someone more intelligent (I 
>> hope). I haven't decided yet how much per hour to bill them for 
>> sorting out their incompetence. My theory is if they can't cope with 
>> old technology what hope is there with smart meters?
>> As for water, I have a shared supply with next door. When we had a 
>> leak many years back a new blue plastic supply was put in. It was 
>> supposed to cost a couple of hundred but it must have been too 
>> complex as we never got billed. I was offered a meter but it could 
>> only be internal. I could not offer a convenient 1 meter length of 
>> pipe for them so went on to 'average household charge', which 
>> actually reduced my bill from the RV basis. I might save if I had a 
>> meter but I do not wish to have the hassle. ?350 a year seems good value.
>> There is no gas in the village so I am not impressed with dual fuel 
>> offers or surveys which assume that gas is an option. I am sometimes 
>> a little unfriendly, like when offered loft insulation by someone who 
>> hasn't done their research. They seem sceptical of my three foot deep 
>> loft insulation, or at least the ones who have never encountered thatch!
>> There is endless amusement to be had if one can be bothered.
>> Ciao
>> peter
>>
>>     .
>>     ?----- Original Message -----
>>     *From:* Peter Fox via Tech1 <mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
>>     *To:* patrickheigham <mailto:patheigham at amps.net>
>>     *Cc:* tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk <mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
>>     *Sent:* Friday, March 30, 2018 6:35 PM
>>     *Subject:* Re: [Tech1] Smart Meters
>>
>>     Mainly to Mike G: My cousin has had smart gas and electric meters
>>     fitted. Both meters had to be replaced, even though the unsmart
>>     (Dumbo?) gas meter was only a year old, fitted after a JCB trauma
>>     of the gas main next door, so shame about your cupboard. The new
>>     battery powered smart gas meter ?talks? locally to the
>>     electricity meter, by low power wireless, and the electric meter,
>>     having ?unlimited? power available is the mobile phone network
>>     communicator. She had a query about her gas reading recently from
>>     edf because she appeared not to have used any gas, and would she
>>     give them a reading? Yes. She sent me out into the garden to
>>     wrestle open the box, and scrabble on the damp ground (BBC
>>     training handy there) It said 0000000000
>>     Was she sure? Yes. Even after pushing some coloured buttons, it
>>     still said 0000000000. ? So they came and checked, unbelievers.
>>     And fitted a new, new smart meter. The first new smart meter was
>>     fitted last June. So that?s 8 months free gas. Bargain.
>>     The Man told me that the utilities are supposed to fit new gas
>>     meters every ten years anyway, so battery life is not reckoned to
>>     be an issue. As my own plain old dumbo gas meter is at least
>>     thirty years old I take that ten years with a pinch of salt.
>>     Peter F
>>
>>     Crippled Crapple
>>
>>     On 30 Mar 2018, at 17:02, patrickheigham via Tech1
>>     <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk <mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>> wrote:
>>
>>>     *Re: meters*
>>>     *Electricity:*
>>>     EDF fitted me with a smart meter - it renders the reading via
>>>     the Vodafone network,
>>>     therefore the engineer checked the signal strength before
>>>     installation.
>>>     The small remote display screen is quite useful, as it can be
>>>     switched between various
>>>     readings - I find the instantaneous consumption to be mostly viewed.
>>>     *Gas:*
>>>     Not gone for that yet.
>>>     However with Gas central heating I gather that keeping the
>>>     property up to
>>>     temperature all day is cheaper than letting it go down to almost
>>>     cold and boosting later.
>>>     As I'm retired, I'm in most of the time and I don't like being cold.
>>>     *Water:*
>>>     Definitely best if one or two occupants only.
>>>     I made a chart for my residents in the three blocks of flats
>>>     where I reside,
>>>     going to the extent of measuring the water consumption of
>>>     handbasin /
>>>     kitchen sink / bath, for a decent wallow level! / and loo flushing.
>>>     (Don't have a shower).
>>>     Car washing and lawn sprinklers will modify that, and the fixed
>>>     charge
>>>     might be a better bet.
>>>     If your rain water run-off does not go into the main drainage,
>>>     then there
>>>     is a discount available - at least for Sutton & East Surrey.
>>>     This?affects the charge for sewage disposal.
>>>     If you collect rain water in butts, you could water the grass
>>>     with a small
>>>     pump? This brings electricity back into play!!
>>>     Best
>>>     Pat
>>>
>>>         ----- Original Message -----
>>>         *From:* Bernard Newnham via Tech1 <mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
>>>         *To:* tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk <mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
>>>         *Sent:* Friday, March 30, 2018 10:08 AM
>>>         *Subject:* [Tech1] Smart Meters
>>>
>>>         How do people feel about smart meters?
>>>
>>>         Our new providerOVO rang a week ago and asked if wewould fit
>>>         them, and sounded very diffident about it, as if they are
>>>         controversial.? Yesterday a man came and fitted them in
>>>         about an hour, and now I never have to crawl intoa cupboard
>>>         witha torch again. We also have a small screen telling us
>>>         how much we've used, though I knew that anyway and it won't
>>>         change anything. I've always known that when the boiler goes
>>>         "woom" I start using the most energy, and I'm not planning
>>>         to adjust it at all.
>>>
>>>         So - why are they controversial?
>>>
>>>         B
>>>
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From bernie833 at gmail.com  Mon Apr  2 05:24:36 2018
From: bernie833 at gmail.com (Bernard Newnham)
Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2018 11:24:36 +0100
Subject: Bouncing and missing emails
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From rogerbunce at btinternet.com  Mon Apr  2 13:30:27 2018
From: rogerbunce at btinternet.com (ROGER BUNCE)
Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2018 18:30:27 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: Dancing Cameras
References: <1173161648.732694.1522693827454.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1173161648.732694.1522693827454@mail.yahoo.com>

For anyone who'd like to see a Vinten HP Ped and a Fulmar dancing with Floella Benjamin (sadly they are not EMI 2001s).
This clip was discovered by Gordon Finlay on an old VHS, and lifted from Facebook by Bernie. It is thought that the two Cameramen were Dave Box and John Longley, both dressed in CSO Green.
For TV Centre Cameramen, there is also a reminder of that flight-case monitor, with its impossible-to-fasten buckle.
??http://www.tech-ops.co.uk/bern/cameras2.mp4?

luv, Rog.
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From bernie833 at gmail.com  Mon Apr  2 16:21:28 2018
From: bernie833 at gmail.com (Bernard Newnham)
Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2018 22:21:28 +0100
Subject: test please ignore
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From: bernie833 at gmail.com (Bernard Newnham)
Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2018 10:12:59 +0100
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From bernie833 at gmail.com  Tue Apr  3 04:22:17 2018
From: bernie833 at gmail.com (Bernard Newnham)
Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2018 10:22:17 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] list settings
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From: bernie833 at gmail.com (Bernard Newnham)
Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2018 12:10:02 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] list settings - try number 2
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From bernie833 at gmail.com  Tue Apr  3 06:18:40 2018
From: bernie833 at gmail.com (Bernard Newnham)
Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2018 12:18:40 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] list settings - try number 3
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From bernie833 at gmail.com  Tue Apr  3 06:27:00 2018
From: bernie833 at gmail.com (Bernard Newnham)
Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2018 12:27:00 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] More testing
Message-ID: <afa9d779-bc4c-98f2-574a-fbddc1dc3680@gmail.com>

This is just for me


  TEST


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From bernie833 at gmail.com  Tue Apr  3 07:01:22 2018
From: bernie833 at gmail.com (Bernard Newnham)
Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2018 13:01:22 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] list settings - try number 3
In-Reply-To: <8A09D7E975C04880A020258A4C0CA3FA@henley1092>
References: <79876a39-d9f8-f39b-18b6-8d1ab9a9d565@gmail.com>
	<8A09D7E975C04880A020258A4C0CA3FA@henley1092>
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What's pleasing is that this version of the email test actually got 
through.? Sorry it didn't work for you - I just clicked it and it worked 
fine, but that may be because I'm the admin.

Did anyone else get a 404 error?

B



On 03/04/2018 12:43, Peter Cook wrote:
> I tried the link 93 Times?and got Error 404 Page not found
>
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     *From:* Bernard Newnham via Tech1 <mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
>     *To:* tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk <mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
>     *Sent:* Tuesday, April 03, 2018 12:18 PM
>     *Subject:* [Tech1] list settings - try number 3
>
>     Still poking around in the Mailman system, I find that Roger
>     Bunce's post from yesterday is in the archive, but I for one
>     didn't get it.? I obviously need to do more research. In the
>     meantime here is Roger's post from the system archive -
>
>
>         Dancing Cameras
>
>     *ROGER BUNCE*rogerbunce at
>     btinternet.com<mailto:tech1%40tech-ops.co.uk?Subject=Re%3A%20Dancing%20Cameras&In-Reply-To=%3C1173161648.732694.1522693827454%40mail.yahoo.com%3E>
>     /Mon Apr 2 13:30:27 CDT 2018/
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>     For anyone who'd like to see a Vinten HP Ped and a Fulmar dancing with Floella Benjamin (sadly they are not EMI 2001s).
>     This clip was discovered by Gordon Finlay on an old VHS, and lifted from Facebook by Bernie. It is thought that the two Cameramen were Dave Box and John Longley, both dressed in CSO Green.
>     For TV Centre Cameramen, there is also a reminder of that flight-case monitor, with its impossible-to-fasten buckle.
>        http://www.tech-ops.co.uk/bern/cameras2.mp4
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From patheigham at amps.net  Tue Apr  3 08:07:51 2018
From: patheigham at amps.net (patrickheigham)
Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2018 14:07:51 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] list settings - try number 3
In-Reply-To: <ab73078f-1dc1-6711-da52-3c94d8f4d53d@gmail.com>
References: <79876a39-d9f8-f39b-18b6-8d1ab9a9d565@gmail.com><8A09D7E975C04880A020258A4C0CA3FA@henley1092>
	<ab73078f-1dc1-6711-da52-3c94d8f4d53d@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <E887EF0D183B4130B5ABD2369AD11AD3@PATRICKSONY>

Hi Bernie,

I received all your test messages - Testing system/list settings/try No. 2 and 3
and this latest one.
As I post from both my amps.net address as well as a BTInternet one, I get
duplicate messages, however the amps one gets through easily (it's a gmail server),
but BT Internet takes forever, sometimes half a day, and I keep getting
'server dropped connection' messages.
Maybe BT have a very strong scam filter?

The link to Roger's .mp4 threw up 404 error each time, though.


Best
Pat

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Bernard Newnham via Tech1 
  To: Peter Cook ; tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk 
  Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2018 1:01 PM
  Subject: Re: [Tech1] list settings - try number 3


  What's pleasing is that this version of the email test actually got through.  Sorry it didn't work for you - I just clicked it and it worked fine, but that may be because I'm the admin. 

  Did anyone else get a 404 error?

  B

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From dave at davesound.co.uk  Tue Apr  3 08:09:18 2018
From: dave at davesound.co.uk (Dave Plowman)
Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2018 14:09:18 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] More testing
In-Reply-To: <afa9d779-bc4c-98f2-574a-fbddc1dc3680@gmail.com>
References: <afa9d779-bc4c-98f2-574a-fbddc1dc3680@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <56e2f63d4edave@davesound.co.uk>

In article <afa9d779-bc4c-98f2-574a-fbddc1dc3680 at gmail.com>,
   Bernard Newnham via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> his is just for me


>   TEST


>     test


>           test

This is the first time I've seen a plain text mail from you, Bernard. 
Normally HTML only.

FWIW I did get all your earlier list settings ones - 1,2&3

-- 
*On the seventh day He brewed beer *

    Dave Plowman     dave at davesound.co.uk     London SW 12
    


From brian.curtis.bluesky at gmail.com  Tue Apr  3 08:24:20 2018
From: brian.curtis.bluesky at gmail.com (Brian Curtis)
Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2018 14:24:20 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] list settings - try number 3
In-Reply-To: <E887EF0D183B4130B5ABD2369AD11AD3@PATRICKSONY>
References: <79876a39-d9f8-f39b-18b6-8d1ab9a9d565@gmail.com>
	<8A09D7E975C04880A020258A4C0CA3FA@henley1092>
	<ab73078f-1dc1-6711-da52-3c94d8f4d53d@gmail.com>
	<E887EF0D183B4130B5ABD2369AD11AD3@PATRICKSONY>
Message-ID: <CAGVa-Qe9zF0e+iOY6ATwbmyid6NdpuhWzOr8bLs5y7Qr-JwLLg@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Bernie

Same as Pat - emails come through fine but link to

 http://www.tech-ops.co.uk/bern/cameras2.mp4

throws up a 404 error

Cheers

Brian

On 3 April 2018 at 14:07, patrickheigham via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
wrote:

> Hi Bernie,
>
> I received all your test messages - Testing system/list settings/try No. 2
> and 3
> and this latest one.
> As I post from both my amps.net address as well as a BTInternet one, I get
> duplicate messages, however the amps one gets through easily (it's a
> gmail server),
> but BT Internet takes forever, sometimes half a day, and I keep getting
> 'server dropped connection' messages.
> Maybe BT have a very strong scam filter?
>
> The link to Roger's .mp4 threw up 404 error each time, though.
>
>
> Best
> Pat
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Bernard Newnham via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
> *To:* Peter Cook <petercook at lesters.org.uk> ; tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 03, 2018 1:01 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [Tech1] list settings - try number 3
>
> What's pleasing is that this version of the email test actually got through.
> Sorry it didn't work for you - I just clicked it and it worked fine, but
> that may be because I'm the admin.
>
> Did anyone else get a 404 error?
>
> B
>
>
>
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From bernie833 at gmail.com  Tue Apr  3 11:43:13 2018
From: bernie833 at gmail.com (Bernard Newnham)
Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2018 17:43:13 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Dancing cameras etc.
Message-ID: <2ac09dcc-da50-9f2c-c132-f08f73e36ab3@gmail.com>

Thank to all who reported a 404 error. At least we know the list is 
working ok.

For a while at least, each time you post the list will send an 
acknowledgement.

I can't work out why we can't see our own messages, as I've ticked that 
box. I'm investigating Dada Mail, which is much more up to date than 
Mailman. If you have any experience with it, please let me know.

Now - Roger's video. ? It turns out that Facebook doesn't want you to 
rip videos from private groups. Not surprising really. But this 
particular video is BBC copyright, and as a special interest group, I 
thought we deserved to see.? OBS Studio is not only free, it's very good 
once you get it going. You can record the screen or any part of it.? 
Having - after four tries - got the stuff on a drive here, it needed a 
bit of processing through Premiere. Then I uploaded it the 
tech-ops.co.uk and sent out a link.? It seems that no-one but me can see 
it. I tried encasing it in an HTML5 webpage, but that doesn't work 
either. So now it's an unlisted YouTube on an unlisted Wordpress page.? 
It works for me. Let me know if it _doesn't_ work for you -

http://tech-ops.co.uk/next/dancing-cameras/

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From dave.mdv at btinternet.com  Tue Apr  3 12:05:13 2018
From: dave.mdv at btinternet.com (dave.mdv)
Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2018 18:05:13 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Drone weaponry
Message-ID: <5df86c07-2b81-065d-b608-9f424ac0d7df@btinternet.com>

Here's a thought provoking vid. on the subject. I bet that I can guess 
who you like to target with one of those little ones! Cheers, Dave

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From patheigham at amps.net  Tue Apr  3 12:16:04 2018
From: patheigham at amps.net (patrickheigham)
Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2018 18:16:04 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Dancing cameras etc.
In-Reply-To: <2ac09dcc-da50-9f2c-c132-f08f73e36ab3@gmail.com>
References: <2ac09dcc-da50-9f2c-c132-f08f73e36ab3@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <EB6D9AED6D164E808AFA99D923A71F2C@PATRICKSONY>

Worked for me - very funny!
Must have taken a few hours to animate.
But why the Ampex clock for ATV at the end of the clip?

Pat

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Bernard Newnham via Tech1 
  To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk 
  Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2018 5:43 PM
  Subject: [Tech1] Dancing cameras etc.


  Thank to all who reported a 404 error. At least we know the list is working ok. 

  For a while at least, each time you post the list will send an acknowledgement.

  I can't work out why we can't see our own messages, as I've ticked that box. I'm investigating Dada Mail, which is much more up to date than Mailman. If you have any experience with it, please let me know.

  Now - Roger's video.   It turns out that Facebook doesn't want you to rip videos from private groups. Not surprising really. But this particular video is BBC copyright, and as a special interest group, I thought we deserved to see.  OBS Studio is not only free, it's very good once you get it going. You can record the screen or any part of it.  Having - after four tries - got the stuff on a drive here, it needed a bit of processing through Premiere. Then I uploaded it the tech-ops.co.uk and sent out a link.  It seems that no-one but me can see it. I tried encasing it in an HTML5 webpage, but that doesn't work either. So now it's an unlisted YouTube on an unlisted Wordpress page.  It works for me. Let me know if it doesn't work for you - 

  http://tech-ops.co.uk/next/dancing-cameras/

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From brian.curtis.bluesky at gmail.com  Tue Apr  3 12:30:36 2018
From: brian.curtis.bluesky at gmail.com (Brian Curtis)
Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2018 18:30:36 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Drone weaponry
In-Reply-To: <5df86c07-2b81-065d-b608-9f424ac0d7df@btinternet.com>
References: <5df86c07-2b81-065d-b608-9f424ac0d7df@btinternet.com>
Message-ID: <CAGVa-QcFnJjvH_jmHydifhntts5Fyb42GWzCHuFHmwEO5jQAUA@mail.gmail.com>

Just one word - SCARY!!!

On 3 April 2018 at 18:05, dave.mdv via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:

> Here's a thought provoking vid. on the subject. I bet that I can guess who
> you like to target with one of those little ones! Cheers, Dave
>
>
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From graeme.wall at icloud.com  Tue Apr  3 13:01:03 2018
From: graeme.wall at icloud.com (Graeme Wall)
Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2018 19:01:03 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Drone weaponry
In-Reply-To: <5df86c07-2b81-065d-b608-9f424ac0d7df@btinternet.com>
References: <5df86c07-2b81-065d-b608-9f424ac0d7df@btinternet.com>
Message-ID: <DCCF4EDE-4E4A-449E-AA4C-B58F3002B3D5@icloud.com>

Ouch! (in more ways than one).  Who gets to decide who are the good guys and who are the bad, Putin?  Trump?
? 
Graeme Wall





> On 3 Apr 2018, at 18:05, dave.mdv via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> Here's a thought provoking vid. on the subject. I bet that I can guess who you like to target with one of those little ones! Cheers, Dave
> 
> <Drone Weaponry.mp4>-- 
> Tech1 mailing list
> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk



From graeme.wall at icloud.com  Tue Apr  3 13:06:49 2018
From: graeme.wall at icloud.com (Graeme Wall)
Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2018 19:06:49 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Dancing cameras etc.
In-Reply-To: <EB6D9AED6D164E808AFA99D923A71F2C@PATRICKSONY>
References: <2ac09dcc-da50-9f2c-c132-f08f73e36ab3@gmail.com>
	<EB6D9AED6D164E808AFA99D923A71F2C@PATRICKSONY>
Message-ID: <2AFA2899-9D3A-43CF-925C-EFC1C6F98986@icloud.com>

+1
? 
Graeme Wall





> On 3 Apr 2018, at 18:16, patrickheigham via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> Worked for me - very funny!
> Must have taken a few hours to animate.
> But why the Ampex clock for ATV at the end of the clip?
>  
> Pat
>  
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Bernard Newnham via Tech1
>> To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2018 5:43 PM
>> Subject: [Tech1] Dancing cameras etc.
>> 
>> Thank to all who reported a 404 error. At least we know the list is working ok. 
>> 
>> For a while at least, each time you post the list will send an acknowledgement.
>> 
>> I can't work out why we can't see our own messages, as I've ticked that box. I'm investigating Dada Mail, which is much more up to date than Mailman. If you have any experience with it, please let me know.
>> 
>> Now - Roger's video.   It turns out that Facebook doesn't want you to rip videos from private groups. Not surprising really. But this particular video is BBC copyright, and as a special interest group, I thought we deserved to see.  OBS Studio is not only free, it's very good once you get it going. You can record the screen or any part of it.  Having - after four tries - got the stuff on a drive here, it needed a bit of processing through Premiere. Then I uploaded it the tech-ops.co.uk and sent out a link.  It seems that no-one but me can see it. I tried encasing it in an HTML5 webpage, but that doesn't work either. So now it's an unlisted YouTube on an unlisted Wordpress page.  It works for me. Let me know if it doesn't work for you - 
>> 
>> http://tech-ops.co.uk/next/dancing-cameras/
> 
> 
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From rogerbunce at btinternet.com  Tue Apr  3 13:14:49 2018
From: rogerbunce at btinternet.com (ROGER BUNCE)
Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2018 18:14:49 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Tech1] Dancing cameras etc.
References: <335760744.1453196.1522779289035.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <335760744.1453196.1522779289035@mail.yahoo.com>

Just to recap - and give credit where it's due (none to me).
The Two-Peds-Dancing-with-Floella-Benjamin video was discovered by Gordon Findlay, on an old VHS. He posted it in a Facebook group. It looks like a Pixar animation, but it's not. It was performed as live. The two Cameramen were, we think, Dave Box and John Longley, both dressed in overlay green, in front of a green screen. Bernie did some amazingly clever computery stuff to make it visible to non-Facebook folk. (I don't understand a word of it!)
I assume that the Ampex clock for 'Crossroads' at the end, is just something else on the same VHS.
If you haven't watched it yet, it's well worth it, especially if you were a Cameraman. There's something about an HP Ped competing with a Fulmar. Just sad that the Cameras aren't EMI 2001s. That would have been completely iconic. And some of us will recall the sheer impossibility of fastening that buckle on the flight-case monitor!
Here it is again.
Dancing cameras | The Tech-ops History Site

  
|  
|  
|  
|   |    |

  |

  |
|  
|   |  
Dancing cameras | The Tech-ops History Site
   |   |

  |

  |

 

luv, Rog.


   

   From: patrickheigham via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
 To: Bernard Newnham <bernie833 at gmail.com>; tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk 
 Sent: Tuesday, 3 April 2018, 18:16
 Subject: Re: [Tech1] Dancing cameras etc.
  
Worked for me - very funny!Must have taken a few hours toanimate.But why the Ampex clock for ATV at the end of theclip??Pat?
 ----- Original Message -----  From: Bernard Newnham via Tech1  To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk  Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2018 5:43 PM Subject: [Tech1] Dancing cameras etc. 
Thank to all who reported a 404 error. At least we know the list is working ok. 

For a while at least, each time you post the list will send an acknowledgement.

I can't work out why we can't see our own messages, as I've ticked that box. I'm investigating Dada Mail, which is much more up to date than Mailman. If you have any experience with it, please let me know.

Now - Roger's video. ? It turns out that Facebook doesn't want you to rip videos from private groups. Not surprising really. But this particular video is BBC copyright, and as a special interest group, I thought we deserved to see.? OBS Studio is not only free, it's very good once you get it going. You can record the screen or any part of it.? Having - after four tries - got the stuff on a drive here, it needed a bit of processing through Premiere. Then I uploaded it the tech-ops.co.uk and sent out a link.? It seems that no-one but me can see it. I tried encasing it in an HTML5 webpage, but that doesn't work either. So now it's an unlisted YouTube on an unlisted Wordpress page.? It works for me. Let me know if it doesn't work for you - 

http://tech-ops.co.uk/next/dancing-cameras/



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From bernie833 at gmail.com  Wed Apr  4 04:51:45 2018
From: bernie833 at gmail.com (Bernard Newnham)
Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2018 10:51:45 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Dancing cameras
Message-ID: <2d801f63-7efb-77ab-0926-88a8f960114d@gmail.com>

The list system is still acting up. Yesterday evening? "/Tue Apr 3 
13:14:49 CDT 2018" - /a quarter past seven, Roger Bunce sent this to the 
list. I haven't received it, maybe you did. Maybe you won't get this. 
I'm researching Dada mail.

Anyway, here's a resend from the list archive page -

Just to recap - and give credit where it's due (none to me).
The Two-Peds-Dancing-with-Floella-Benjamin video was discovered by Gordon Findlay, on an old VHS. He posted it in a Facebook group. It looks like a Pixar animation, but it's not. It was performed as live. The two Cameramen were, we think, Dave Box and John Longley, both dressed in overlay green, in front of a green screen. Bernie did some amazingly clever computery stuff to make it visible to non-Facebook folk. (I don't understand a word of it!)
I assume that the Ampex clock for 'Crossroads' at the end, is just something else on the same VHS.
If you haven't watched it yet, it's well worth it, especially if you were a Cameraman. There's something about an HP Ped competing with a Fulmar. Just sad that the Cameras aren't EMI 2001s. That would have been completely iconic. And some of us will recall the sheer impossibility of fastening that buckle on the flight-case monitor!
Here it is again.

Roger

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From ravenscourt1 at btinternet.com  Wed Apr  4 05:22:35 2018
From: ravenscourt1 at btinternet.com (Albert Barber)
Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2018 11:22:35 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Dancing cameras
In-Reply-To: <2d801f63-7efb-77ab-0926-88a8f960114d@gmail.com>
References: <2d801f63-7efb-77ab-0926-88a8f960114d@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6B8E6167-1C75-44CB-B0B7-ADF6839B00E8@btinternet.com>

TEST TO HELP BERNIE>

BEST TO ALL Albert


> On 4 Apr 2018, at 10:51, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> The list system is still acting up. Yesterday evening  "Tue Apr 3 13:14:49 CDT 2018" - a quarter past seven, Roger Bunce sent this to the list. I haven't received it, maybe you did. Maybe you won't get this. I'm researching Dada mail.
> 
> Anyway, here's a resend from the list archive page - 
> 
> Just to recap - and give credit where it's due (none to me).
> The Two-Peds-Dancing-with-Floella-Benjamin video was discovered by Gordon Findlay, on an old VHS. He posted it in a Facebook group. It looks like a Pixar animation, but it's not. It was performed as live. The two Cameramen were, we think, Dave Box and John Longley, both dressed in overlay green, in front of a green screen. Bernie did some amazingly clever computery stuff to make it visible to non-Facebook folk. (I don't understand a word of it!)
> I assume that the Ampex clock for 'Crossroads' at the end, is just something else on the same VHS.
> If you haven't watched it yet, it's well worth it, especially if you were a Cameraman. There's something about an HP Ped competing with a Fulmar. Just sad that the Cameras aren't EMI 2001s. That would have been completely iconic. And some of us will recall the sheer impossibility of fastening that buckle on the flight-case monitor!
> Here it is again.
> 
> Roger
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From bernie833 at gmail.com  Wed Apr  4 05:34:51 2018
From: bernie833 at gmail.com (Bernard Newnham)
Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2018 11:34:51 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Dancing cameras
In-Reply-To: <6B8E6167-1C75-44CB-B0B7-ADF6839B00E8@btinternet.com>
References: <2d801f63-7efb-77ab-0926-88a8f960114d@gmail.com>
	<6B8E6167-1C75-44CB-B0B7-ADF6839B00E8@btinternet.com>
Message-ID: <d77e4800-cb03-b408-a103-0a3fce896282@gmail.com>

Got that

Thanks Albert


On 04/04/2018 11:22, Albert Barber wrote:
> TEST TO HELP BERNIE>
>
> BEST TO ALL Albert
>
>
>> On 4 Apr 2018, at 10:51, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 
>> <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk <mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>> wrote:
>>
>> The list system is still acting up. Yesterday evening? "/Tue Apr 3 
>> 13:14:49 CDT 2018" - /a quarter past seven, Roger Bunce sent this to 
>> the list. I haven't received it, maybe you did. Maybe you won't get 
>> this. I'm researching Dada mail.
>>
>> Anyway, here's a resend from the list archive page -
>>
>> Just to recap - and give credit where it's due (none to me).
>> The Two-Peds-Dancing-with-Floella-Benjamin video was discovered by Gordon Findlay, on an old VHS. He posted it in a Facebook group. It looks like a Pixar animation, but it's not. It was performed as live. The two Cameramen were, we think, Dave Box and John Longley, both dressed in overlay green, in front of a green screen. Bernie did some amazingly clever computery stuff to make it visible to non-Facebook folk. (I don't understand a word of it!)
>> I assume that the Ampex clock for 'Crossroads' at the end, is just something else on the same VHS.
>> If you haven't watched it yet, it's well worth it, especially if you were a Cameraman. There's something about an HP Ped competing with a Fulmar. Just sad that the Cameras aren't EMI 2001s. That would have been completely iconic. And some of us will recall the sheer impossibility of fastening that buckle on the flight-case monitor!
>> Here it is again.
>>
>> Roger
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From jccglass at gmail.com  Wed Apr  4 05:47:48 2018
From: jccglass at gmail.com (Chris on gmail)
Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2018 11:47:48 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Dancing Cameras
Message-ID: <58ED8A515E5F4BE885B4419E7F25F7F5@dell9100>

Just to Prove that Dave Box and John Longly were indeeed the hidden stars
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From patheigham at amps.net  Wed Apr  4 07:43:09 2018
From: patheigham at amps.net (patrickheigham)
Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2018 13:43:09 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Drone weaponry
In-Reply-To: <CAGVa-QcFnJjvH_jmHydifhntts5Fyb42GWzCHuFHmwEO5jQAUA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <5df86c07-2b81-065d-b608-9f424ac0d7df@btinternet.com>
	<CAGVa-QcFnJjvH_jmHydifhntts5Fyb42GWzCHuFHmwEO5jQAUA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <53629BE66EA34E6BB33C0A0A239F93C8@PATRICKSONY>

Are we sure that it's not a Special FX mock-up?
I recall that on "007 Thunderball" Bond swims out of the
shark pond with a neat breathing apparatus.
I gather that the Army contacted the production to enquire
where they could obtain similar devices, only to be told that
the props dept fashioned a fake from two Sparklets cartridges
and a snorkel mouthpiece!
Also, on "Fiddler on the Roof" I was using an induction loop
for 'silent' playback. Topol, who is Israeli, came to ask me
if it would work underwater for military communication use.
Only if you could get a loop around the target area, he was told.

Pat
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Brian Curtis via Tech1 
  To: dave.mdv 
  Cc: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk 
  Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2018 6:30 PM
  Subject: Re: [Tech1] Drone weaponry


  Just one word - SCARY!!!


  On 3 April 2018 at 18:05, dave.mdv via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:

    Here's a thought provoking vid. on the subject. I bet that I can guess who you like to target with one of those little ones! Cheers, Dave

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From ravenscourt1 at btinternet.com  Wed Apr  4 10:29:30 2018
From: ravenscourt1 at btinternet.com (Albert Barber)
Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2018 16:29:30 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Hi Fi tuner
Message-ID: <5A74C9B4-AC42-4E0F-965E-C06D6594C131@btinternet.com>

My Hi fi tuner has developed a dry joint somewhere and it will cost more to repair than it?s worth. It?s a Sony.
New Tuners are about ?300 for a good one but I wondered if anyone had one they might like to sell for a small fee.
I can collect and live in West London.
Best AB



From dave.mdv at btinternet.com  Wed Apr  4 16:43:27 2018
From: dave.mdv at btinternet.com (dave.mdv)
Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2018 22:43:27 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Dry joints
In-Reply-To: <5A74C9B4-AC42-4E0F-965E-C06D6594C131@btinternet.com>
References: <5A74C9B4-AC42-4E0F-965E-C06D6594C131@btinternet.com>
Message-ID: <7ffd7d6b-ad74-416b-c6da-e7abc1514e6f@btinternet.com>

Most people in this forum can spot a dry joint from miles away! Just 
look for a greyish or crazed bit of solder, i.e. not shiny , re-melt it 
with a soldering iron and jobs done! To do it properly use a solder 
sucker, clean the contact area, and re-solder. Cheers, Dave


On 04/04/2018 16:29, Albert Barber via Tech1 wrote:
> My Hi fi tuner has developed a dry joint somewhere and it will cost more to repair than it?s worth. It?s a Sony.
> New Tuners are about ?300 for a good one but I wondered if anyone had one they might like to sell for a small fee.
> I can collect and live in West London.
> Best AB
>
>



From dave at davesound.co.uk  Wed Apr  4 18:12:36 2018
From: dave at davesound.co.uk (Dave Plowman)
Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2018 00:12:36 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Hi Fi tuner
In-Reply-To: <5A74C9B4-AC42-4E0F-965E-C06D6594C131@btinternet.com>
References: <5A74C9B4-AC42-4E0F-965E-C06D6594C131@btinternet.com>
Message-ID: <56e3b14e4adave@davesound.co.uk>

In article <5A74C9B4-AC42-4E0F-965E-C06D6594C131 at btinternet.com>,
   Albert Barber via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> My Hi fi tuner has developed a dry joint somewhere and it will cost more to repair than it?s worth. It?s a Sony.
> New Tuners are about ?300 for a good one but I wondered if anyone had one they might like to sell for a small fee.
> I can collect and live in West London.
> Best AB

Hi Albert,
          If it's just a basic tuner you want (no remote control) I can do
you one. Or four if you want, all the same. FM stereo and L&W wave. 6
storable presets on each. 

I'm in Balham.


> -- 
> T

-- 
*What was the best thing before sliced bread? *

    Dave Plowman     dave at davesound.co.uk     London SW 12
    


From dave at davesound.co.uk  Wed Apr  4 18:09:37 2018
From: dave at davesound.co.uk (Dave Plowman)
Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2018 00:09:37 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Dry joints
In-Reply-To: <7ffd7d6b-ad74-416b-c6da-e7abc1514e6f@btinternet.com>
References: <5A74C9B4-AC42-4E0F-965E-C06D6594C131@btinternet.com>
	<7ffd7d6b-ad74-416b-c6da-e7abc1514e6f@btinternet.com>
Message-ID: <56e3b10976dave@davesound.co.uk>

In article <7ffd7d6b-ad74-416b-c6da-e7abc1514e6f at btinternet.com>,
   dave.mdv via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> Most people in this forum can spot a dry joint from miles away! Just 
> look for a greyish or crazed bit of solder, i.e. not shiny , re-melt it 
> with a soldering iron and jobs done! To do it properly use a solder 
> sucker, clean the contact area, and re-solder. Cheers, Dave

Never just re-heat a dry joint. Add multi-core solder for the flux.

You can still buy decent leaded multi-core from an electronics supplier.
Lead free is the spawn of satan for DIY electronics.

-- 
*I wonder how much deeper the ocean would be without sponges*

    Dave Plowman     dave at davesound.co.uk     London SW 12
    


From j at howell61.f9.co.uk  Wed Apr  4 18:43:46 2018
From: j at howell61.f9.co.uk (John Howell)
Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2018 00:43:46 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Dry joints
In-Reply-To: <56e3b10976dave@davesound.co.uk>
References: <5A74C9B4-AC42-4E0F-965E-C06D6594C131@btinternet.com>
	<7ffd7d6b-ad74-416b-c6da-e7abc1514e6f@btinternet.com>
	<56e3b10976dave@davesound.co.uk>
Message-ID: <970f84f0-4848-9e1d-fbae-f2612ac8a539@howell61.f9.co.uk>

You can? also still get a variety of fluxes, including 'Fluxite'.

Some years ago I came across a wonderful cored solder

by 'Multicore'? called 'Alusol' it wasn't /that/ great with Aluminium but

'wetted' steel including some stainless varieties..


John H.

On 05/04/2018 00:09, Dave Plowman via Tech1 wrote:
> In article <7ffd7d6b-ad74-416b-c6da-e7abc1514e6f at btinternet.com>,
>     dave.mdv via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
>> Most people in this forum can spot a dry joint from miles away! Just
>> look for a greyish or crazed bit of solder, i.e. not shiny , re-melt it
>> with a soldering iron and jobs done! To do it properly use a solder
>> sucker, clean the contact area, and re-solder. Cheers, Dave
> Never just re-heat a dry joint. Add multi-core solder for the flux.
>
> You can still buy decent leaded multi-core from an electronics supplier.
> Lead free is the spawn of satan for DIY electronics.
>

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From mibridge at mac.com  Thu Apr  5 02:39:44 2018
From: mibridge at mac.com (Mike Giles)
Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2018 08:39:44 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Dancing cameras
Message-ID: <90EF29C2-1BEB-4DC2-A7AD-2DFCCC66BE22@mac.com>

Did the invisible cameramen in their CSO green suits get payments for being in-vision under direction?

Mike G

From patheigham at amps.net  Thu Apr  5 04:32:55 2018
From: patheigham at amps.net (patrickheigham)
Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2018 10:32:55 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Dancing cameras
In-Reply-To: <90EF29C2-1BEB-4DC2-A7AD-2DFCCC66BE22@mac.com>
References: <90EF29C2-1BEB-4DC2-A7AD-2DFCCC66BE22@mac.com>
Message-ID: <7B31FB4980F94FDB9BCFABCF13C324C4@PATRICKSONY>

Hope so!
That reminds me, that years ago, a programme
about making TV programmes required a camera
in the sound control of TC4, I think it was.
As I was on Grams that day, I was in vision
and paid 10 guineas - but 3 guineas was deducted,
as I was just doing my normal job!

Pat

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike Giles via Tech1" <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
To: <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2018 8:39 AM
Subject: [Tech1] Dancing cameras


> Did the invisible cameramen in their CSO green suits get payments for 
> being in-vision under direction?
>
> Mike G
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From dave at davesound.co.uk  Thu Apr  5 04:44:07 2018
From: dave at davesound.co.uk (Dave Plowman)
Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2018 10:44:07 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Hi Fi tuner
In-Reply-To: <56e3b14e4adave@davesound.co.uk>
References: <5A74C9B4-AC42-4E0F-965E-C06D6594C131@btinternet.com>
	<56e3b14e4adave@davesound.co.uk>
Message-ID: <56e3eb1fe0dave@davesound.co.uk>

Sorry - that was meant to go direct to Albert. ;-) 


In article <56e3b14e4adave at davesound.co.uk>,
   Dave Plowman via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <5A74C9B4-AC42-4E0F-965E-C06D6594C131 at btinternet.com>,
>    Albert Barber via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> > My Hi fi tuner has developed a dry joint somewhere and it will cost more to repair than it?s worth. It?s a Sony.
> > New Tuners are about ?300 for a good one but I wondered if anyone had one they might like to sell for a small fee.
> > I can collect and live in West London.
> > Best AB

> Hi Albert,
>           If it's just a basic tuner you want (no remote control) I can do
> you one. Or four if you want, all the same. FM stereo and L&W wave. 6
> storable presets on each. 

> I'm in Balham.


> > -- 
> > T

> -- 
> *What was the best thing before sliced bread? *

>     Dave Plowman     dave at davesound.co.uk     London SW 12
>     

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    Dave Plowman     dave at davesound.co.uk     London SW 12
    


From jccglass at gmail.com  Thu Apr  5 06:10:55 2018
From: jccglass at gmail.com (Chris on gmail)
Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2018 12:10:55 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Dancing cameras CSo
References: <90EF29C2-1BEB-4DC2-A7AD-2DFCCC66BE22@mac.com>
	<7B31FB4980F94FDB9BCFABCF13C324C4@PATRICKSONY>
Message-ID: <1756EFB716EF44D9BF9B11749BA3345E@dell9100>

Ok im having another go at attaching jpg  of our cso stars as it seems last 
time they were stripped of by mailman
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From rogerbunce at btinternet.com  Thu Apr  5 06:26:07 2018
From: rogerbunce at btinternet.com (ROGER BUNCE)
Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2018 11:26:07 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Tech1] Dancing cameras
In-Reply-To: <90EF29C2-1BEB-4DC2-A7AD-2DFCCC66BE22@mac.com>
References: <90EF29C2-1BEB-4DC2-A7AD-2DFCCC66BE22@mac.com>
Message-ID: <657066110.2581019.1522927567023@mail.yahoo.com>

According to Facebook - Yes - they did get payments for being directed 'In-Vision', despite being invisible!
luv, Rog.
      From: Mike Giles via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
 To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk 
 Sent: Thursday, 5 April 2018, 8:40
 Subject: [Tech1] Dancing cameras
   
Did the invisible cameramen in their CSO green suits get payments for being in-vision under direction?

Mike G
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From rogerbunce at btinternet.com  Thu Apr  5 06:30:01 2018
From: rogerbunce at btinternet.com (ROGER BUNCE)
Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2018 11:30:01 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Tech1] Dancing cameras CSo
In-Reply-To: <1756EFB716EF44D9BF9B11749BA3345E@dell9100>
References: <90EF29C2-1BEB-4DC2-A7AD-2DFCCC66BE22@mac.com>
	<7B31FB4980F94FDB9BCFABCF13C324C4@PATRICKSONY>
	<1756EFB716EF44D9BF9B11749BA3345E@dell9100>
Message-ID: <80455348.2600133.1522927801609@mail.yahoo.com>

Wow! Where did you get the photos, Chris? And would you mind if I share them on Facebook?
luv, Rog.
      From: Chris on gmail via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
 To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk 
 Sent: Thursday, 5 April 2018, 12:11
 Subject: [Tech1] Dancing cameras CSo
   
Ok im having another go at attaching jpg? of our cso stars as it seems last 
time they were stripped of by mailman
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From c.glass110 at btinternet.com  Thu Apr  5 06:21:58 2018
From: c.glass110 at btinternet.com (JCC Glass)
Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2018 12:21:58 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] cso dancing camera attchemnt
Message-ID: <FC8D18EAB2B343289C6760A9F7A1652A@dell9100>

Ok im trying a Zipp if that fails  and any one is deperate to see Dave and 
John in their green  i send you a personal email

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From dave.mdv at btinternet.com  Thu Apr  5 14:51:55 2018
From: dave.mdv at btinternet.com (dave.mdv)
Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2018 20:51:55 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] cso dancing camera attchemnt
In-Reply-To: <FC8D18EAB2B343289C6760A9F7A1652A@dell9100>
References: <FC8D18EAB2B343289C6760A9F7A1652A@dell9100>
Message-ID: <a66f3668-4ab3-f17f-f963-c3fd353ae834@btinternet.com>

The zip file worked OK Chris! I bet it got a bit warm in those suits! 
Something to tell your grandchildren about anyway. Cheers, Dave


On 05/04/2018 12:21, JCC Glass via Tech1 wrote:
> Ok im trying a Zipp if that fails? and any one is deperate to see Dave 
> and John in their green? i send you a personal email
>
> Chris Glass
>
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From waresound at msn.com  Fri Apr  6 02:13:33 2018
From: waresound at msn.com (Nick Ware)
Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2018 07:13:33 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Hi Fi tuner
In-Reply-To: <5A74C9B4-AC42-4E0F-965E-C06D6594C131@btinternet.com>
References: <5A74C9B4-AC42-4E0F-965E-C06D6594C131@btinternet.com>
Message-ID: <DB7P192MB031381F9A5AE789AD14342A2A7BA0@DB7P192MB0313.EURP192.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>

I have a Technics FM, MW and LW tuner that anyone who has a use for it is welcome to have. It?s intended as a ?separate? in a swanky high-end stacking system, is about 1U high and working perfectly.
Been sitting neglected for several years now because all the FM I want to listen to sounds better where we are on a Humax Freeview box.
Yours for the cost of postage, or meet up for a pint! (Ripley, Surrey)
Sent from my iPad

On 4 Apr 2018, at 16:30, Albert Barber via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk<mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>> wrote:

My Hi fi tuner has developed a dry joint somewhere and it will cost more to repair than it?s worth. It?s a Sony.
New Tuners are about ?300 for a good one but I wondered if anyone had one they might like to sell for a small fee.
I can collect and live in West London.
Best AB


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From dave at davesound.co.uk  Fri Apr  6 04:23:10 2018
From: dave at davesound.co.uk (Dave Plowman)
Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2018 10:23:10 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Hi Fi tuner
In-Reply-To: <DB7P192MB031381F9A5AE789AD14342A2A7BA0@DB7P192MB0313.EURP192.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
References: <5A74C9B4-AC42-4E0F-965E-C06D6594C131@btinternet.com>
	<DB7P192MB031381F9A5AE789AD14342A2A7BA0@DB7P192MB0313.EURP192.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
Message-ID: <56e46d0b3edave@davesound.co.uk>

In article
<DB7P192MB031381F9A5AE789AD14342A2A7BA0 at DB7P192MB0313.EURP192.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>,
   Nick Ware via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> Been sitting neglected for several years now because all the FM I want
> to listen to sounds better where we are on a Humax Freeview box.

I went over to FreeView too for radio since it gives me R4 Extra.

Often wondered if there'd be a market for a sound only FreeView tuner with
a display that doesn't need a TV. But I do still have FM and DAB etc if
ever needed. ;-)

-- 
*Verbs HAS to agree with their subjects *

    Dave Plowman     dave at davesound.co.uk     London SW 12
    


From dave at davesound.co.uk  Fri Apr  6 05:27:19 2018
From: dave at davesound.co.uk (Dave Plowman)
Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2018 11:27:19 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] [SUSPECT] Re:  Hi Fi tuner
In-Reply-To: <D3CA39548D88406886A23B8A9D77CB2D@henley1092>
References: <5A74C9B4-AC42-4E0F-965E-C06D6594C131@btinternet.com><DB7P192MB031381F9A5AE789AD14342A2A7BA0@DB7P192MB0313.EURP192.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
	<56e46d0b3edave@davesound.co.uk>
	<D3CA39548D88406886A23B8A9D77CB2D@henley1092>
Message-ID: <56e472eab6dave@davesound.co.uk>

Doesn't seem to be needed with the radio services I use. It would seem to
be only TV that changes every day. ;-)   


In article <D3CA39548D88406886A23B8A9D77CB2D at henley1092>,
   Peter Cook <petercook at lesters.org.uk> wrote:
> That would depend on how to do the weekly retune without a screen

> Peter
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Dave Plowman via Tech1" <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
> To: <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
> Sent: Friday, April 06, 2018 10:23 AM
> Subject: Re: [Tech1] Hi Fi tuner


> > In article
> > <DB7P192MB031381F9A5AE789AD14342A2A7BA0 at DB7P192MB0313.EURP192.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>,
> >   Nick Ware via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> >> Been sitting neglected for several years now because all the FM I want
> >> to listen to sounds better where we are on a Humax Freeview box.
> >
> > I went over to FreeView too for radio since it gives me R4 Extra.
> >
> > Often wondered if there'd be a market for a sound only FreeView tuner with
> > a display that doesn't need a TV. But I do still have FM and DAB etc if
> > ever needed. ;-)
>

-- 
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    Dave Plowman     dave at davesound.co.uk     London SW 12
    


From mikej at bmanor.co.uk  Fri Apr  6 05:33:15 2018
From: mikej at bmanor.co.uk (Mike Jordan)
Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2018 11:33:15 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Hi Fi tuner
In-Reply-To: <56e46d0b3edave@davesound.co.uk>
References: <5A74C9B4-AC42-4E0F-965E-C06D6594C131@btinternet.com><DB7P192MB031381F9A5AE789AD14342A2A7BA0@DB7P192MB0313.EURP192.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
	<56e46d0b3edave@davesound.co.uk>
Message-ID: <EB6149D3F8E34569A8789D1CCF31069B@Gigabyte>

It isn't just radio tuners that are getting too complicated. I year or so 
ago, the CD player in the local church hall packed up. As it is used by 
various groups who may not understand or be responsible with things, I 
wanted a good old plain CD player with buttons on front (remotes get 
lost/damaged). Seems they don't exist now but everything has displays/remote 
only etc etc.
Finally got a very reasonable working old type one in local charity/phone 
shop which was just what was wanted - and only ?25 - and still working.

Mike

-----Original Message----- 
From: Dave Plowman via Tech1

I went over to FreeView too for radio since it gives me R4 Extra.

Often wondered if there'd be a market for a sound only FreeView tuner with
a display that doesn't need a TV. But I do still have FM and DAB etc if
ever needed. ;-)



From bernie833 at gmail.com  Fri Apr  6 06:03:09 2018
From: bernie833 at gmail.com (Bernard Newnham)
Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2018 11:03:09 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Roger and doughnut in doughnut. First time in five years
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From patheigham at amps.net  Fri Apr  6 07:30:48 2018
From: patheigham at amps.net (patrickheigham)
Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2018 13:30:48 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Hi Fi tuner
In-Reply-To: <56e46d0b3edave@davesound.co.uk>
References: <5A74C9B4-AC42-4E0F-965E-C06D6594C131@btinternet.com><DB7P192MB031381F9A5AE789AD14342A2A7BA0@DB7P192MB0313.EURP192.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
	<56e46d0b3edave@davesound.co.uk>
Message-ID: <64346153259B4FB496918B986A0BF5E7@PATRICKSONY>

I recently bought a small shirt pocket radio for travelling.
Intended to work into earbuds, as the headphone cable
acts as the aerial, but I got it to receive with a 3.5 - 3.5
jack lead into a Bose Soundlink Mini speaker, which I use
as a TV soundbar/nearfield speaker.
The quality of both is splendid, and take up little room.
Both units can be powered via a USB
mains adaptor, and work off battery if necessary.
The radio is ?60, the Soundlink ?150.

Best
Pat

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave Plowman via Tech1" <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
To: <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
Sent: Friday, April 06, 2018 10:23 AM
Subject: Re: [Tech1] Hi Fi tuner


> In article
> <DB7P192MB031381F9A5AE789AD14342A2A7BA0 at DB7P192MB0313.EURP192.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>,
>   Nick Ware via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
>> Been sitting neglected for several years now because all the FM I want
>> to listen to sounds better where we are on a Humax Freeview box.
>
> I went over to FreeView too for radio since it gives me R4 Extra.
>
> Often wondered if there'd be a market for a sound only FreeView tuner with
> a display that doesn't need a TV. But I do still have FM and DAB etc if
> ever needed. ;-)
>
> -- 
> *Verbs HAS to agree with their subjects *
>
>    Dave Plowman     dave at davesound.co.uk     London SW 12


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From waresound at msn.com  Fri Apr  6 07:58:03 2018
From: waresound at msn.com (Nick Ware)
Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2018 12:58:03 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Hi Fi tuner
In-Reply-To: <64346153259B4FB496918B986A0BF5E7@PATRICKSONY>
References: <5A74C9B4-AC42-4E0F-965E-C06D6594C131@btinternet.com><DB7P192MB031381F9A5AE789AD14342A2A7BA0@DB7P192MB0313.EURP192.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
	<56e46d0b3edave@davesound.co.uk>,
	<64346153259B4FB496918B986A0BF5E7@PATRICKSONY>
Message-ID: <DB7P192MB03132A1DF816354DDEA76A8FA7BA0@DB7P192MB0313.EURP192.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>

I got the Sony version of that for the kitchen. It connects wirelessly with your iPhone and BBC Radio iPlayer App. Or from the iPad, with BBC iPlayer TV App.
Instant radio or TV, no aerial or wires required!
Nick.
Sent from my iPad

On 6 Apr 2018, at 13:31, patrickheigham via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk<mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>> wrote:

I recently bought a small shirt pocket radio for travelling.
Intended to work into earbuds, as the headphone cable
acts as the aerial, but I got it to receive with a 3.5 - 3.5
jack lead into a Bose Soundlink Mini speaker, which I use
as a TV soundbar/nearfield speaker.
The quality of both is splendid, and take up little room.
Both units can be powered via a USB
mains adaptor, and work off battery if necessary.
The radio is ?60, the Soundlink ?150.

Best
Pat

----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Plowman via Tech1" <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk<mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>>
To: <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk<mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>>
Sent: Friday, April 06, 2018 10:23 AM
Subject: Re: [Tech1] Hi Fi tuner


In article
<DB7P192MB031381F9A5AE789AD14342A2A7BA0 at DB7P192MB0313.EURP192.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM<mailto:DB7P192MB031381F9A5AE789AD14342A2A7BA0 at DB7P192MB0313.EURP192.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>>,
 Nick Ware via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk<mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>> wrote:
Been sitting neglected for several years now because all the FM I want
to listen to sounds better where we are on a Humax Freeview box.

I went over to FreeView too for radio since it gives me R4 Extra.

Often wondered if there'd be a market for a sound only FreeView tuner with
a display that doesn't need a TV. But I do still have FM and DAB etc if
ever needed. ;-)

--
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  Dave Plowman     dave at davesound.co.uk<mailto:dave at davesound.co.uk>     London SW 12


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From dave at davesound.co.uk  Fri Apr  6 08:58:55 2018
From: dave at davesound.co.uk (Dave Plowman)
Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2018 14:58:55 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Hi Fi tuner
In-Reply-To: <DB7P192MB03132A1DF816354DDEA76A8FA7BA0@DB7P192MB0313.EURP192.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
References: <5A74C9B4-AC42-4E0F-965E-C06D6594C131@btinternet.com><DB7P192MB031381F9A5AE789AD14342A2A7BA0@DB7P192MB0313.EURP192.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
	<56e46d0b3edave@davesound.co.uk>
	<64346153259B4FB496918B986A0BF5E7@PATRICKSONY>
	<DB7P192MB03132A1DF816354DDEA76A8FA7BA0@DB7P192MB0313.EURP192.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
Message-ID: <56e4864a22dave@davesound.co.uk>

In article
<DB7P192MB03132A1DF816354DDEA76A8FA7BA0 at DB7P192MB0313.EURP192.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>,
   Nick Ware via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> I got the Sony version of that for the kitchen. It connects wirelessly
> with your iPhone and BBC Radio iPlayer App. Or from the iPad, with BBC
> iPlayer TV App. Instant radio or TV, no aerial or wires required!

I cabled all my house for audio and video when re-wiring just after
buying. Never once regretted the effort.

-- 
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    Dave Plowman     dave at davesound.co.uk     London SW 12
    


From bernie833 at gmail.com  Fri Apr  6 15:52:18 2018
From: bernie833 at gmail.com (Bernard Newnham)
Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2018 21:52:18 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Fwd: North 3 and Lo23 Events for 2018
In-Reply-To: <8C35148C61DD4BDB89ABE31B69D9CC0D@rtx100>
References: <8C35148C61DD4BDB89ABE31B69D9CC0D@rtx100>
Message-ID: <87e755a5-6ce7-fdf4-a3da-4c40cea6ab29@ntlworld.com>




-------- Forwarded Message --------
Subject: 	North 3 and Lo23 Events for 2018
Date: 	Fri, 6 Apr 2018 18:54:55 +0100
From: 	Jerry Clegg <jerry.clegg at btinternet.com>
To: 	bernard.newnham at ntlworld.com



Greetings All
Another show season of classic vehicles is almost under way and the 
former BBC scanner North 3/CMCR9 ?is being readied for another round of 
displays starting with Llandudno Transport Festival on 5th May. Here is 
the list of events so far :-


	


  North 3 Events 2018


      MAY 5TH-7TH THE LLANDUDNO TRANSPORT FESTIVAL

Superb show in a beautiful location, good access from the A55 coast 
road, and plenty to see in Llandudno itself -

which hosts a special Victorian Extravaganza in the town centre, 
accessible by free vintage bus rides. Road run round the Great Orme.

http://www.llantransfest.co.uk/


      JUNE 23RD & 24TH: THE KELSALL STEAM AND VINTAGE FAIR

One of the biggest commercial shows in the North, but of course also 
covering tractors, cars, bikes etc. and the annual ERF gathering. This 
year we hope to have Lo23 and North 3 together, if Lo23 is ready 
following painting at Geoff James Commercials in Nescliffe. At present, 
this seems very likely as progress is well under way.

http://www.kelsallsteamrally.co.uk/


      JULY 7TH & 8TH: THE AVRO HERITAGE MUSEUM AIR FAIR

The superb AVRO Heritage Museum houses a unique collection celebrating 
the history of this famous company and the historic site which 
contributed so much to aviation history. Following the success of this 
event last year, they are increasing the attractions and making it a 
two-day extravaganza of all things aviation and transport related- 
classic cars, aero collectables and hopefully a fly-past of vintage 
aeroplanes. We have been invited to exhibit North 3 and hope to set up a 
working OB display.

http://avroheritagemuseum.co.uk 
<http://www.vintageradio.co.uk/htm/tvprojects3d.htm#>


      AUGUST 26TH AND 27TH : SHREWSBURY STEAM AND VINTAGE VEHICLE RALLY,
      ONSLOW PARK.

A massive event with an incredible amount to see and do, from traction 
engine ploughing to a concours d'elegance for baby carriages! North 3 
will be on display within the working exhibits area as usual.

https://www.shrewsburysteamrally.co.uk/ 
<http://www.vintageradio.co.uk/htm/tvprojects3d.htm#>


      SEPTEMBER 8TH & 9TH : MALPAS YESTERYEAR RALLY

Not yet confirmed

http://www.malpas-yesteryear-rally.co.uk/

For further information about North 3/CMCR9?and/or ?Lo23/ CMCR54 with 
photos and historical notes have a look at Steve Harris' website which 
is :- vintageradio.co.uk <mailto:vintageradio at co.uk>
We hope to?meet up with some of you at one or other of the events.
kind regards
Jerry
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From jerry.clegg at btinternet.com  Fri Apr  6 12:54:55 2018
From: jerry.clegg at btinternet.com (Jerry Clegg)
Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2018 18:54:55 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] North 3 and Lo23 Events for 2018
Message-ID: <8C35148C61DD4BDB89ABE31B69D9CC0D@rtx100>

Greetings All

Another show season of classic vehicles is almost under way and the former BBC scanner North 3/CMCR9  is being readied for another round of displays starting with Llandudno Transport Festival on 5th May. Here is the list of events so far :-



       

     North 3 Events 2018
      MAY 5TH-7TH THE LLANDUDNO TRANSPORT FESTIVAL
      Superb show in a beautiful location, good access from the A55 coast road, and plenty to see in Llandudno itself -

      which hosts a special Victorian Extravaganza in the town centre, accessible by free vintage bus rides. Road run round the Great Orme.

      http://www.llantransfest.co.uk/

      JUNE 23RD & 24TH: THE KELSALL STEAM AND VINTAGE FAIR
      One of the biggest commercial shows in the North, but of course also covering tractors, cars, bikes etc. and the annual ERF gathering. This year we hope to have Lo23 and North 3 together, if Lo23 is ready following painting at Geoff James Commercials in Nescliffe. At present, this seems very likely as progress is well under way.

      http://www.kelsallsteamrally.co.uk/

      JULY 7TH & 8TH: THE AVRO HERITAGE MUSEUM AIR FAIR
      The superb AVRO Heritage Museum houses a unique collection celebrating the history of this famous company and the historic site which contributed so much to aviation history. Following the success of this event last year, they are increasing the attractions and making it a two-day extravaganza of all things aviation and transport related- classic cars, aero collectables and hopefully a fly-past of vintage aeroplanes. We have been invited to exhibit North 3 and hope to set up a working OB display.

      http://avroheritagemuseum.co.uk



      AUGUST 26TH AND 27TH : SHREWSBURY STEAM AND VINTAGE VEHICLE RALLY, ONSLOW PARK.
      A massive event with an incredible amount to see and do, from traction engine ploughing to a concours d'elegance for baby carriages! North 3 will be on display within the working exhibits area as usual.

      https://www.shrewsburysteamrally.co.uk/



      SEPTEMBER 8TH & 9TH : MALPAS YESTERYEAR RALLY
      Not yet confirmed

      http://www.malpas-yesteryear-rally.co.uk/
     


For further information about North 3/CMCR9 and/or  Lo23/ CMCR54 with photos and historical notes have a look at Steve Harris' website which is :- vintageradio.co.uk 

We hope to meet up with some of you at one or other of the events.

kind regards

Jerry

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From rogerbunce at btinternet.com  Sat Apr  7 06:26:59 2018
From: rogerbunce at btinternet.com (ROGER BUNCE)
Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2018 11:26:59 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Tech1] TV Centre - Grand Opening
References: <1133518103.231333.1523100419416.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1133518103.231333.1523100419416@mail.yahoo.com>

In Case anyone is interested -
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From dave.mdv at btinternet.com  Sun Apr  8 17:43:50 2018
From: dave.mdv at btinternet.com (dave.mdv)
Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2018 23:43:50 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Burglars
Message-ID: <2e56708b-ee8f-390b-3621-3ecd63489fe7@btinternet.com>

My neighbours have just been burgled between 1615 and 1700 on Friday 
afternoon. I could have helped the police but my neighbours had changed 
the medium height fences to tall ones while we were away on holiday and 
they had complained about me being able to see into their driveway so my 
wife spent a load of money putting net curtains in every window! So they 
lost ?4000 and a load of jewels! How sad! Cheers, Dave



From mibridge at mac.com  Sun Apr  8 17:55:56 2018
From: mibridge at mac.com (Mike Giles)
Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2018 23:55:56 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Burglars
In-Reply-To: <2e56708b-ee8f-390b-3621-3ecd63489fe7@btinternet.com>
References: <2e56708b-ee8f-390b-3621-3ecd63489fe7@btinternet.com>
Message-ID: <393BB266-2252-4CCA-A212-71BB9F9D960E@mac.com>

I trust your jewels are securely hidden, Dave!

Mike G


> On 8 Apr 2018, at 23:43, dave.mdv via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> My neighbours have just been burgled between 1615 and 1700 on Friday afternoon. I could have helped the police but my neighbours had changed the medium height fences to tall ones while we were away on holiday and they had complained about me being able to see into their driveway so my wife spent a load of money putting net curtains in every window! So they lost ?4000 and a load of jewels! How sad! Cheers, Dave
> 
> 
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From s.k.edwards at btinternet.com  Sun Apr  8 18:18:07 2018
From: s.k.edwards at btinternet.com (Steve Edwards)
Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2018 00:18:07 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Burglars
In-Reply-To: <2e56708b-ee8f-390b-3621-3ecd63489fe7@btinternet.com>
References: <2e56708b-ee8f-390b-3621-3ecd63489fe7@btinternet.com>
Message-ID: <E507081B-30A0-4FEF-9E6D-10EE9947A7AC@btinternet.com>

Dave

Taller fences aren?t necessarily the reason why your neighbour?s house was burgled -there can be a number of factors here. 

I can recall many burglaries in broad daylight where houses have been targeted where they are on open-plan housing estates in full view of the Neighbourhood watch schemes! 

I know a couple in their 80s who were burgled at night:- While they were watching television one end of the house the burglars were ransacking the opposite end. 
That involved four burglers in their 20s all wearing black hoodies and scarves in a stolen new car with cloned number plates - career criminals. They even walked into the room where the occupants were sitting MF and asked if ?they had seen their kitten? whilst they were searching for money in the same room. 

There are foreign gangs carrying out spree burglaries in addition to those gangs with ?Irish accents? now that there?s less police about they are taking more chances and getting away with it. 

You probably appreciate that with this level of cheek in addition to the regular smack-heads and opportunist thieves, the height of our fences does not prevent our houses from being targeted. (Being careful here not to tempt fate) 

Steve



> On 8 Apr 2018, at 23:43, dave.mdv via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> My neighbours have just been burgled between 1615 and 1700 on Friday afternoon. I could have helped the police but my neighbours had changed the medium height fences to tall ones while we were away on holiday and they had complained about me being able to see into their driveway so my wife spent a load of money putting net curtains in every window! So they lost ?4000 and a load of jewels! How sad! Cheers, Dave
> 
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From dave.mdv at btinternet.com  Sun Apr  8 18:41:43 2018
From: dave.mdv at btinternet.com (dave.mdv)
Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2018 00:41:43 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Burglars
In-Reply-To: <E507081B-30A0-4FEF-9E6D-10EE9947A7AC@btinternet.com>
References: <2e56708b-ee8f-390b-3621-3ecd63489fe7@btinternet.com>
	<E507081B-30A0-4FEF-9E6D-10EE9947A7AC@btinternet.com>
Message-ID: <829f20b1-8145-a7ac-c671-43cb6ed4473c@btinternet.com>

'I hear what you say'! However, I only mentioned the height of the 
fences because we has specifically requested lower fences as we cannot 
see the approaching school kids when we drive out. They installed what 
we had asked for and then changed them while we were away on holiday! I 
am told by my neighbours on the other side that there have been several 
burglaries in the area especially when people were away on? holiday and 
it is thought that it is an East European gang. CCTV would have helped 
identify them but this is a small suburban drive. Security lights 
wouldn't help as this was in the middle of the afternoon! Cheers, Dave. 
PS. Thanks for asking Mike, my jewels have shrunk to the size of prunes 
and nobody would want them!


On 09/04/2018 00:18, Steve Edwards wrote:
> Dave
>
> Taller fences aren?t necessarily the reason why your neighbour?s house was burgled -there can be a number of factors here.
>
> I can recall many burglaries in broad daylight where houses have been targeted where they are on open-plan housing estates in full view of the Neighbourhood watch schemes!
>
> I know a couple in their 80s who were burgled at night:- While they were watching television one end of the house the burglars were ransacking the opposite end.
> That involved four burglers in their 20s all wearing black hoodies and scarves in a stolen new car with cloned number plates - career criminals. They even walked into the room where the occupants were sitting MF and asked if ?they had seen their kitten? whilst they were searching for money in the same room.
>
> There are foreign gangs carrying out spree burglaries in addition to those gangs with ?Irish accents? now that there?s less police about they are taking more chances and getting away with it.
>
> You probably appreciate that with this level of cheek in addition to the regular smack-heads and opportunist thieves, the height of our fences does not prevent our houses from being targeted. (Being careful here not to tempt fate)
>
> Steve
>
>
>
>> On 8 Apr 2018, at 23:43, dave.mdv via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>> My neighbours have just been burgled between 1615 and 1700 on Friday afternoon. I could have helped the police but my neighbours had changed the medium height fences to tall ones while we were away on holiday and they had complained about me being able to see into their driveway so my wife spent a load of money putting net curtains in every window! So they lost ?4000 and a load of jewels! How sad! Cheers, Dave
>>
>>
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From waresound at msn.com  Mon Apr  9 01:42:31 2018
From: waresound at msn.com (Nick Ware)
Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2018 06:42:31 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Burglars
In-Reply-To: <829f20b1-8145-a7ac-c671-43cb6ed4473c@btinternet.com>
References: <2e56708b-ee8f-390b-3621-3ecd63489fe7@btinternet.com>
	<E507081B-30A0-4FEF-9E6D-10EE9947A7AC@btinternet.com>,
	<829f20b1-8145-a7ac-c671-43cb6ed4473c@btinternet.com>
Message-ID: <AM0P192MB0307F2DE11A52F1F47ACF1B0A7BF0@AM0P192MB0307.EURP192.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>

Arguably, the only sort of jewels that don?t acquire antique value as they grow (or do I mean shrink) older!
Nick.
Sent from my iPad

On 9 Apr 2018, at 00:42, dave.mdv via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk<mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>> wrote:

[snip]?' PS. Thanks for asking Mike, my jewels have shrunk to the size of prunes and nobody would want them!

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From dave at davesound.co.uk  Mon Apr  9 04:48:34 2018
From: dave at davesound.co.uk (Dave Plowman)
Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2018 10:48:34 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Burglars
In-Reply-To: <2e56708b-ee8f-390b-3621-3ecd63489fe7@btinternet.com>
References: <2e56708b-ee8f-390b-3621-3ecd63489fe7@btinternet.com>
Message-ID: <56e5fae08edave@davesound.co.uk>

In article <2e56708b-ee8f-390b-3621-3ecd63489fe7 at btinternet.com>,
   dave.mdv via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> My neighbours have just been burgled between 1615 and 1700 on Friday 
> afternoon. I could have helped the police but my neighbours had changed 
> the medium height fences to tall ones while we were away on holiday and 
> they had complained about me being able to see into their driveway so my 
> wife spent a load of money putting net curtains in every window! So they 
> lost ?4000 and a load of jewels! How sad! Cheers, Dave

As a matter of interest, did they have an alarm?

-- 
*You! Off my planet!

    Dave Plowman     dave at davesound.co.uk     London SW 12
    


From ggstable at mac.com  Mon Apr  9 08:41:19 2018
From: ggstable at mac.com (GRAHAM GILES)
Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2018 14:41:19 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Security from Burglars
In-Reply-To: <56e5fae08edave@davesound.co.uk>
References: <2e56708b-ee8f-390b-3621-3ecd63489fe7@btinternet.com>
	<56e5fae08edave@davesound.co.uk>
Message-ID: <FD4137FA-4DC1-461A-93E8-61E0ADF26CA5@mac.com>

Readers may be interested to hear that my car was stolen from one of our locked integral garages whilst I was asleep. We live in a quiet cul-de-sac and only set the alarm if going out. The roller doors are made by Securoglide and operate remotely at 433 MHz. This is a widely used frequency on most car remotes, alarm systems, and even doorbells in UK. Most people don?t realise how easily  hackable it is. There are plenty of handheld scanners for sale cheaply on Alibaba, so if you get one nothing is secure ! Even YouTube shows it happening.
I have ?upgraded' the controllers to 7GHz as I understand that band isn?t hackable (?) The cost of doing this was nearly ?1,000 for the 2 doors.

Yes, 81 and still alive -
Graham Giles 

On 9 Apr 2018, at 10:48, Dave Plowman via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> In article <2e56708b-ee8f-390b-3621-3ecd63489fe7 at btinternet.com>,
>   dave.mdv via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
>> My neighbours have just been burgled between 1615 and 1700 on Friday 
>> afternoon. I could have helped the police but my neighbours had changed 
>> the medium height fences to tall ones while we were away on holiday and 
>> they had complained about me being able to see into their driveway so my 
>> wife spent a load of money putting net curtains in every window! So they 
>> lost ?4000 and a load of jewels! How sad! Cheers, Dave
> 
> As a matter of interest, did they have an alarm?
> 
> -- 
> *You! Off my planet!
> 
>    Dave Plowman     dave at davesound.co.uk     London SW 12
> 
> 
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From bernie833 at gmail.com  Mon Apr  9 09:15:27 2018
From: bernie833 at gmail.com (Bernard Newnham)
Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2018 15:15:27 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Security from Burglars
In-Reply-To: <FD4137FA-4DC1-461A-93E8-61E0ADF26CA5@mac.com>
References: <2e56708b-ee8f-390b-3621-3ecd63489fe7@btinternet.com>
	<56e5fae08edave@davesound.co.uk>
	<FD4137FA-4DC1-461A-93E8-61E0ADF26CA5@mac.com>
Message-ID: <a7ca3c50-f90b-7574-61f7-ed16ab56617d@ntlworld.com>

For very obscure reasons I need a Raspberry Pi to pick up the outputs of 
a number of weather station sensors. whichare on 433Mhz.? I live on a 
main road, and once I'd got the various software and hardware working I 
could pick upall kinds of stuff, including keyfobs and tyre pressure 
sensors, as cars passed by. Luckily ? rtl_433?? allows you to screen all 
that out.

B


On 09/04/2018 14:41, GRAHAM GILES via Tech1 wrote:
> Readers may be interested to hear that my car was stolen from one of 
> our locked integral garages whilst I was asleep. We live in a quiet 
> cul-de-sac and only set the alarm if going out. The roller doors are 
> made by Securoglide and operate remotely at 433 MHz. This is a widely 
> used frequency on most car remotes, alarm systems, and even doorbells 
> in UK. Most people don?t realise how easily ?hackable it is. There are 
> plenty of handheld scanners for sale cheaply on Alibaba, so if you get 
> one nothing is secure ! Even YouTube shows it happening.
> I have ?upgraded' the controllers to 7GHz as I understand that band 
> isn?t hackable (?) The cost of doing this was nearly ?1,000 for the 2 
> doors.
>
> Yes, 81 and still alive -
> /Graham Giles/
>
> On 9 Apr 2018, at 10:48, Dave Plowman via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk 
> <mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>> wrote:
>>
>> In article <2e56708b-ee8f-390b-3621-3ecd63489fe7 at btinternet.com 
>> <mailto:2e56708b-ee8f-390b-3621-3ecd63489fe7 at btinternet.com>>,
>> ??dave.mdv via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk 
>> <mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>> wrote:
>>> My neighbours have just been burgled between 1615 and 1700 on Friday
>>> afternoon. I could have helped the police but my neighbours had changed
>>> the medium height fences to tall ones while we were away on holiday and
>>> they had complained about me being able to see into their driveway 
>>> so my
>>> wife spent a load of money putting net curtains in every window! So 
>>> they
>>> lost ?4000 and a load of jewels! How sad! Cheers, Dave
>>
>> As a matter of interest, did they have an alarm?
>>
>> -- 
>> *You! Off my planet!
>>
>> ???Dave Plowman dave at davesound.co.uk <mailto:dave at davesound.co.uk> 
>> ????London SW 12
>>
>>
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From ian.hillson at gmail.com  Wed Apr 11 06:34:35 2018
From: ian.hillson at gmail.com (Ian H)
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2018 12:34:35 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Security from Burglars
In-Reply-To: <a7ca3c50-f90b-7574-61f7-ed16ab56617d@ntlworld.com>
References: <2e56708b-ee8f-390b-3621-3ecd63489fe7@btinternet.com>
	<56e5fae08edave@davesound.co.uk>
	<FD4137FA-4DC1-461A-93E8-61E0ADF26CA5@mac.com>
	<a7ca3c50-f90b-7574-61f7-ed16ab56617d@ntlworld.com>
Message-ID: <CAO37+kZhhL_4tN5MT_Fm=o4nbCLx74YHJ6v1oGUTe49kdi8j_A@mail.gmail.com>

Am reminded of this story from last year (not that I have one!)
https://www.pentestpartners.com/security-blog/screwdriving-locating-and-exploiting-smart-adult-toys/
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/oct/06/drive-by-sex-toy-hacking-wake-up-call-britain-internet-security-vibrators


On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 3:15 PM, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 <
tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:

> For very obscure reasons I need a Raspberry Pi to pick up the outputs of
> a number of weather station sensors. which are on 433Mhz.  I live on a
> main road, and once I'd got the various software and hardware working I
> could pick up all kinds of stuff, including keyfobs and tyre pressure
> sensors, as cars passed by. Luckily   rtl_433   allows you to screen all
> that out.
>
> B
>
>
>
> On 09/04/2018 14:41, GRAHAM GILES via Tech1 wrote:
>
> Readers may be interested to hear that my car was stolen from one of our
> locked integral garages whilst I was asleep. We live in a quiet cul-de-sac
> and only set the alarm if going out. The roller doors are made by
> Securoglide and operate remotely at 433 MHz. This is a widely used
> frequency on most car remotes, alarm systems, and even doorbells in UK.
> Most people don?t realise how easily  hackable it is. There are plenty of
> handheld scanners for sale cheaply on Alibaba, so if you get one nothing is
> secure ! Even YouTube shows it happening.
> I have ?upgraded' the controllers to 7GHz as I understand that band isn?t
> hackable (?) The cost of doing this was nearly ?1,000 for the 2 doors.
>
> Yes, 81 and still alive -
> *Graham Giles *
>
> On 9 Apr 2018, at 10:48, Dave Plowman via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
>
> In article <2e56708b-ee8f-390b-3621-3ecd63489fe7 at btinternet.com>,
>   dave.mdv via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
>
> My neighbours have just been burgled between 1615 and 1700 on Friday
> afternoon. I could have helped the police but my neighbours had changed
> the medium height fences to tall ones while we were away on holiday and
> they had complained about me being able to see into their driveway so my
> wife spent a load of money putting net curtains in every window! So they
> lost ?4000 and a load of jewels! How sad! Cheers, Dave
>
>
> As a matter of interest, did they have an alarm?
>
> --
> *You! Off my planet!
>
>    Dave Plowman     dave at davesound.co.uk     London SW 12
>
>
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From ravenscourt1 at btinternet.com  Thu Apr 12 04:57:10 2018
From: ravenscourt1 at btinternet.com (Albert Barber)
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2018 10:57:10 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] John Motson
Message-ID: <3C6B5629-2ADC-489F-9245-827F8EEBDC5A@btinternet.com>

 <https://bafta.us2.list-manage.com/track/click?u=51f32e75061fbc4c8e20ebccb&id=325ae3469b&e=dcd5e1a1ed>
 
News
JOHN MOTSON TO RECEIVE SPECIAL AWARD
 
Football commentator John Motson OBE will be honoured with the Special Award at the Virgin TV British Academy Television Awards. John will receive the award on the day of his last commentary for Match of the Day, 50 years since he began his BBC career.

Find out more <https://bafta.us2.list-manage.com/track/click?u=51f32e75061fbc4c8e20ebccb&id=31b49d42f1&e=dcd5e1a1ed>

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From bernie833 at gmail.com  Fri Apr 13 05:12:29 2018
From: bernie833 at gmail.com (Bernard Newnham)
Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2018 11:12:29 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Testing stuff
Message-ID: <fc2a5d24-d15e-203b-6944-e11800f55d1f@gmail.com>

I'm currently failing with Dada Mail, but will persevere. Don't know if 
it will be any better. I've made up a limited tech2 subscriber list, but 
since no-one has replied, I don't think it works yet.

Meanwhile, another test - the bluetits are nesting in out birdbox again, 
and I've just set up a streaming system using OBS Studio and YouTube.?? 
I don't know how long the stream is allowed to last running it this way, 
but it's here - https://www.youtube.com/user/bern444/live.??? If you see 
it today, stay between 1115 and 1315, please reply list to let me know 
it works

cheers

B


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From patheigham at amps.net  Fri Apr 13 07:05:25 2018
From: patheigham at amps.net (patrickheigham)
Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2018 13:05:25 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Testing stuff
In-Reply-To: <fc2a5d24-d15e-203b-6944-e11800f55d1f@gmail.com>
References: <fc2a5d24-d15e-203b-6944-e11800f55d1f@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <38FB328E555C46A3A91D2AC4C756592F@PATRICKSONY>

Hi Bernie,

Tuned in for about five mins at 13:00 today.
No birdies visible, though!

Pat
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Bernard Newnham via Tech1 
  To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk 
  Sent: Friday, April 13, 2018 11:12 AM
  Subject: [Tech1] Testing stuff


  I'm currently failing with Dada Mail, but will persevere. Don't know if it will be any better. I've made up a limited tech2 subscriber list, but since no-one has replied, I don't think it works yet.

  Meanwhile, another test - the bluetits are nesting in out birdbox again, and I've just set up a streaming system using OBS Studio and YouTube.   I don't know how long the stream is allowed to last running it this way, but it's here - https://www.youtube.com/user/bern444/live.    If you see it today, stay between 1115 and 1315, please reply list to let me know it works

  cheers

  B





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From chris.wickham at dsl.pipex.com  Fri Apr 13 07:15:01 2018
From: chris.wickham at dsl.pipex.com (Chris Wickham)
Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2018 13:15:01 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Nest box live
Message-ID: <002301d3d321$0c78c820$256a5860$@wickham@dsl.pipex.com>

Hello Bernie,

 

As 1310hrs nice clear pictures of Bluetit . Working well for me Thanks.

 

Best,

Chris

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From tonynuttall at me.com  Fri Apr 13 07:15:39 2018
From: tonynuttall at me.com (William Nuttall)
Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2018 12:15:39 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [Tech1] Blue Tit Cam
Message-ID: <8789ac8d-b875-49fc-a401-8965aff2e3d3@me.com>

Hi Bernie,
OBS Studio /YouTube running fine at 13-15 with me!
Tony N.
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From neil at dormand.biz  Fri Apr 13 09:27:29 2018
From: neil at dormand.biz (Neil Dormand)
Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2018 15:27:29 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Nest box live
In-Reply-To: <002301d3d321$0c78c820$256a5860$@wickham@dsl.pipex.com>
References: <002301d3d321$0c78c820$256a5860$@wickham@dsl.pipex.com>
Message-ID: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAAGZqa+eRW5BPiUZNX5BsXSrCgAAAEAAAAEk7j4BYF2ZDobxad1+v1P0BAAAAAA==@dormand.biz>

Ditto at 15.20

 

Neil

 

From: Tech1 [mailto:tech1-bounces at tech-ops.co.uk] On Behalf Of Chris Wickham
via Tech1
Sent: 13 April 2018 13:15
To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
Subject: [Tech1] Nest box live

 

Hello Bernie,

 

As 1310hrs nice clear pictures of Bluetit . Working well for me Thanks.

 

Best,

Chris

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From bernie833 at gmail.com  Fri Apr 13 09:40:43 2018
From: bernie833 at gmail.com (Bernard Newnham)
Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2018 15:40:43 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Birdcam stopped now
Message-ID: <a4741de6-a3c9-b274-cf66-ec1e19116f74@ntlworld.com>

Thanks to all who replied - it does seem to work ok.? I've killed the 
stream now - the light isn't much good on a dull day, and not that much 
is happening yet.?? When things get going properly I'll run it again and 
post notice.

Someone thought I should put lights in. There are LEDS, though it turns 
out that one is quite enough. The problem with that is that it's all too 
bright, and I worried that it would scare off the parents. The lights 
aren't connected this year- on a sunny day it will still look brilliant.

OBS Studio seems to be a good find, with lots of uses, and free.

B
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From chris at chriswoolf.co.uk  Fri Apr 13 09:55:47 2018
From: chris at chriswoolf.co.uk (Chris Woolf)
Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2018 15:55:47 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Birdcam stopped now
In-Reply-To: <a4741de6-a3c9-b274-cf66-ec1e19116f74@ntlworld.com>
References: <a4741de6-a3c9-b274-cf66-ec1e19116f74@ntlworld.com>
Message-ID: <7d63e942-be2b-f8d4-1738-b60a9eb8da41@chriswoolf.co.uk>

Infra-red?

Many cameras work OK with that, and the LED just adds a minute amount of 
warmth.

Chris Woolf


On 13/04/2018 15:40, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 wrote:
> Thanks to all who replied - it does seem to work ok.? I've killed the 
> stream now - the light isn't much good on a dull day, and not that 
> much is happening yet.?? When things get going properly I'll run it 
> again and post notice.
>
> Someone thought I should put lights in. There are LEDS, though it 
> turns out that one is quite enough. The problem with that is that it's 
> all too bright, and I worried that it would scare off the parents. The 
> lights aren't connected this year- on a sunny day it will still look 
> brilliant.
>
> OBS Studio seems to be a good find, with lots of uses, and free.
>
> B
>
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From bernie833 at gmail.com  Sat Apr 14 03:21:29 2018
From: bernie833 at gmail.com (Bernard Newnham)
Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2018 09:21:29 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Nest box live
In-Reply-To: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAAGZqa+eRW5BPiUZNX5BsXSrCgAAAEAAAAEk7j4BYF2ZDobxad1+v1P0BAAAAAA==@dormand.biz>
References: <002301d3d321$0c78c820$256a5860$@wickham@dsl.pipex.com>
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Message-ID: <c029a8f1-92d8-2301-d5b2-cde637f51679@ntlworld.com>

Birdcam is running, in the sunshine - 
https://www.youtube.com/user/bern444/live.

B
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From johnhcox at gmail.com  Sat Apr 14 04:44:48 2018
From: johnhcox at gmail.com (John Cox)
Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2018 09:44:48 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Birdbox
Message-ID: <CANKFy2fzbjJ7dgVzVsX8OQXOe7cf2Et6_aKq+R6YiEEM3Y7-gQ@mail.gmail.com>

Bernard a lovely view of your  birdbox and lots of activity and road noise
as well.I hope the sun keeps shining for you as it is here in Devon. From
the way the bird is working it looks like it's going to be successfull.
John.
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From geoffletch at gmail.com  Sat Apr 14 05:14:03 2018
From: geoffletch at gmail.com (Geoff Fletcher)
Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2018 11:14:03 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Nest box live
In-Reply-To: <c029a8f1-92d8-2301-d5b2-cde637f51679@ntlworld.com>
References: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAAGZqa+eRW5BPiUZNX5BsXSrCgAAAEAAAAEk7j4BYF2ZDobxad1+v1P0BAAAAAA==@dormand.biz>
	<c029a8f1-92d8-2301-d5b2-cde637f51679@ntlworld.com>
Message-ID: <CAB99AB-hxDi3QyxLRvs-WpREaM7zDgZvwH1XqKXXasiP1Vh=Aw@mail.gmail.com>

Picture fine, also sound Bernie.

Geoff F

On Sat, Apr 14, 2018 at 9:21 AM, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 <
tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:

> Birdcam is running, in the sunshine - https://www.youtube.com/user/
> bern444/live.
>
> B
>
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From brian.curtis.bluesky at gmail.com  Sat Apr 14 07:40:53 2018
From: brian.curtis.bluesky at gmail.com (Brian Curtis)
Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2018 13:40:53 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Nest box live
In-Reply-To: <CAB99AB-hxDi3QyxLRvs-WpREaM7zDgZvwH1XqKXXasiP1Vh=Aw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAAGZqa+eRW5BPiUZNX5BsXSrCgAAAEAAAAEk7j4BYF2ZDobxad1+v1P0BAAAAAA==@dormand.biz>
	<c029a8f1-92d8-2301-d5b2-cde637f51679@ntlworld.com>
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Hi Bernie

Sound & Vision from Birdcam is very good!

Brian

On 14 April 2018 at 11:14, Geoff Fletcher via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
wrote:

> Picture fine, also sound Bernie.
>
> Geoff F
>
> On Sat, Apr 14, 2018 at 9:21 AM, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 <
> tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Birdcam is running, in the sunshine - https://www.youtube.com/user/b
>> ern444/live.
>>
>> B
>>
>> --
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From bernie833 at gmail.com  Sat Apr 14 08:05:51 2018
From: bernie833 at gmail.com (Bernard Newnham)
Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2018 14:05:51 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Nest box live
In-Reply-To: <AA716A6339434A4CB6FE6112CCDE6835@henley1092>
References: <002301d3d321$0c78c820$256a5860$@wickham@dsl.pipex.com>
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Message-ID: <b837142c-6d60-863b-fe04-924ebac0b6a9@gmail.com>

This is the outside of the box. On the right hand side is a piece of 
gaffer tape covering the hole for the second camera.? That turned out to 
be a bit ambitious, as USB cameras tend to have the same address, or 
something like that.? Didn't work well, whatever.

The sticks are wisteria, which will be first purple and then very green 
long before the chicks depart? - always assuming they get that far. It 
doesn't always work out - we've had nine fledglings leaving one year, 
and five abandoned babies another.

It's all much smaller than it seems on the camera. Eggs are 1.6cm, 5/8" 
long. The hole in the box is about 4cm - maybe less, I don't want to go 
and measure at this point.



B
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From geoffletch at gmail.com  Sat Apr 14 09:25:25 2018
From: geoffletch at gmail.com (Geoff Fletcher)
Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2018 15:25:25 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Nest box live
In-Reply-To: <b837142c-6d60-863b-fe04-924ebac0b6a9@gmail.com>
References: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAAGZqa+eRW5BPiUZNX5BsXSrCgAAAEAAAAEk7j4BYF2ZDobxad1+v1P0BAAAAAA==@dormand.biz>
	<c029a8f1-92d8-2301-d5b2-cde637f51679@ntlworld.com>
	<AA716A6339434A4CB6FE6112CCDE6835@henley1092>
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Message-ID: <CAB99AB8ni=rxwPXU-svf5XYyn6tV_N_VTEJ9GGi1N_kuea3t6A@mail.gmail.com>

Where is the source of the traffic noise in relation to the box Bernie?

Geoff F

On Sat, Apr 14, 2018 at 2:05 PM, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 <
tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:

> This is the outside of the box. On the right hand side is a piece of
> gaffer tape covering the hole for the second camera.  That turned out to be
> a bit ambitious, as USB cameras tend to have the same address, or something
> like that.  Didn't work well, whatever.
>
> The sticks are wisteria, which will be first purple and then very green
> long before the chicks depart  - always assuming they get that far. It
> doesn't always work out - we've had nine fledglings leaving one year, and
> five abandoned babies another.
>
> It's all much smaller than it seems on the camera. Eggs are 1.6cm, 5/8"
> long. The hole in the box is about 4cm - maybe less, I don't want to go and
> measure at this point.
>
>
>
> B
>
> --
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From philiptyler at me.com  Sat Apr 14 09:33:27 2018
From: philiptyler at me.com (Philip Tyler)
Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2018 15:33:27 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Nest box live
In-Reply-To: <CAB99AB8ni=rxwPXU-svf5XYyn6tV_N_VTEJ9GGi1N_kuea3t6A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAAGZqa+eRW5BPiUZNX5BsXSrCgAAAEAAAAEk7j4BYF2ZDobxad1+v1P0BAAAAAA==@dormand.biz>
	<c029a8f1-92d8-2301-d5b2-cde637f51679@ntlworld.com>
	<AA716A6339434A4CB6FE6112CCDE6835@henley1092>
	<b837142c-6d60-863b-fe04-924ebac0b6a9@gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <5A10F6D2-4DBB-4493-92BC-C5232B22286C@me.com>

The road ?

Sorry couldn?t resist.

Philip

> On 14 Apr 2018, at 15:25, Geoff Fletcher via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> Where is the source of the traffic noise in relation to the box Bernie?
> 
> Geoff F
> 
>> On Sat, Apr 14, 2018 at 2:05 PM, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
>> This is the outside of the box. On the right hand side is a piece of gaffer tape covering the hole for the second camera.  That turned out to be a bit ambitious, as USB cameras tend to have the same address, or something like that.  Didn't work well, whatever.  
>> 
>> The sticks are wisteria, which will be first purple and then very green long before the chicks depart  - always assuming they get that far. It doesn't always work out - we've had nine fledglings leaving one year, and five abandoned babies another. 
>> 
>> It's all much smaller than it seems on the camera. Eggs are 1.6cm, 5/8" long. The hole in the box is about 4cm - maybe less, I don't want to go and measure at this point.
>> 
>> <jhpnkanlocmlohjg.png>
>> 
>> B
>> 
>> -- 
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>> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
>> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk
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From geoffletch at gmail.com  Sat Apr 14 09:35:48 2018
From: geoffletch at gmail.com (Geoff Fletcher)
Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2018 14:35:48 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Nest box live
In-Reply-To: <5A10F6D2-4DBB-4493-92BC-C5232B22286C@me.com>
References: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAAGZqa+eRW5BPiUZNX5BsXSrCgAAAEAAAAEk7j4BYF2ZDobxad1+v1P0BAAAAAA==@dormand.biz>
	<c029a8f1-92d8-2301-d5b2-cde637f51679@ntlworld.com>
	<AA716A6339434A4CB6FE6112CCDE6835@henley1092>
	<b837142c-6d60-863b-fe04-924ebac0b6a9@gmail.com>
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	<5A10F6D2-4DBB-4493-92BC-C5232B22286C@me.com>
Message-ID: <CAB99AB_w4i2oWqBDHM6sqRf=uov2TVhQp5AK91uhEMae4J+NCQ@mail.gmail.com>

?
G

On Sat, 14 Apr 2018 at 15:33, Philip Tyler <philiptyler at me.com> wrote:

> The road ?
>
> Sorry couldn?t resist.
>
> Philip
>
> On 14 Apr 2018, at 15:25, Geoff Fletcher via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
> Where is the source of the traffic noise in relation to the box Bernie?
>
> Geoff F
>
> On Sat, Apr 14, 2018 at 2:05 PM, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 <
> tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
>
> This is the outside of the box. On the right hand side is a piece of
>> gaffer tape covering the hole for the second camera.  That turned out to be
>> a bit ambitious, as USB cameras tend to have the same address, or something
>> like that.  Didn't work well, whatever.
>>
>> The sticks are wisteria, which will be first purple and then very green
>> long before the chicks depart  - always assuming they get that far. It
>> doesn't always work out - we've had nine fledglings leaving one year, and
>> five abandoned babies another.
>>
>> It's all much smaller than it seems on the camera. Eggs are 1.6cm, 5/8"
>> long. The hole in the box is about 4cm - maybe less, I don't want to go and
>> measure at this point.
>>
>> <jhpnkanlocmlohjg.png>
>>
>> B
>>
>
>> --
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>> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
>> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk
>>
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From bernie833 at gmail.com  Sat Apr 14 10:14:01 2018
From: bernie833 at gmail.com (Bernard Newnham)
Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2018 16:14:01 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Nest box live
In-Reply-To: <CAB99AB8ni=rxwPXU-svf5XYyn6tV_N_VTEJ9GGi1N_kuea3t6A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAAGZqa+eRW5BPiUZNX5BsXSrCgAAAEAAAAEk7j4BYF2ZDobxad1+v1P0BAAAAAA==@dormand.biz>
	<c029a8f1-92d8-2301-d5b2-cde637f51679@ntlworld.com>
	<AA716A6339434A4CB6FE6112CCDE6835@henley1092>
	<b837142c-6d60-863b-fe04-924ebac0b6a9@gmail.com>
	<CAB99AB8ni=rxwPXU-svf5XYyn6tV_N_VTEJ9GGi1N_kuea3t6A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <b9061057-5105-3437-cee7-41f2fd86a9ea@ntlworld.com>

We live here -? 51.339627, -0.519230? on the fairly busy A245. The box 
is on the end of the red arrow.



B


On 14/04/2018 15:25, Geoff Fletcher wrote:
> Where is the source of the traffic noise in relation to the box Bernie?
>
> Geoff F
>
> On Sat, Apr 14, 2018 at 2:05 PM, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 
> <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk <mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>> wrote:
>
>     This is the outside of the box. On the right hand side is a piece
>     of gaffer tape covering the hole for the second camera.? That
>     turned out to be a bit ambitious, as USB cameras tend to have the
>     same address, or something like that.? Didn't work well, whatever.
>
>     The sticks are wisteria, which will be first purple and then very
>     green long before the chicks depart? - always assuming they get
>     that far. It doesn't always work out - we've had nine fledglings
>     leaving one year, and five abandoned babies another.
>
>     It's all much smaller than it seems on the camera. Eggs are 1.6cm,
>     5/8" long. The hole in the box is about 4cm - maybe less, I don't
>     want to go and measure at this point.
>
>
>
>     B
>
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From ravenscourt1 at btinternet.com  Sat Apr 14 14:23:36 2018
From: ravenscourt1 at btinternet.com (Albert Barber)
Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2018 20:23:36 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Nest box live
In-Reply-To: <b9061057-5105-3437-cee7-41f2fd86a9ea@ntlworld.com>
References: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAAGZqa+eRW5BPiUZNX5BsXSrCgAAAEAAAAEk7j4BYF2ZDobxad1+v1P0BAAAAAA==@dormand.biz>
	<c029a8f1-92d8-2301-d5b2-cde637f51679@ntlworld.com>
	<AA716A6339434A4CB6FE6112CCDE6835@henley1092>
	<b837142c-6d60-863b-fe04-924ebac0b6a9@gmail.com>
	<CAB99AB8ni=rxwPXU-svf5XYyn6tV_N_VTEJ9GGi1N_kuea3t6A@mail.gmail.com>
	<b9061057-5105-3437-cee7-41f2fd86a9ea@ntlworld.com>
Message-ID: <46059763-BE68-450A-8BB5-8FCAA09C084C@btinternet.com>

This dove has nested on a lamp in our gazebo!



Sent from my iPad

> On 14 Apr 2018, at 16:14, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> We live here -  51.339627, -0.519230  on the fairly busy A245. The box is on the end of the red arrow.
> 
> <gkpfbjipbkkndlom.png>
> 
> B
> 
> 
>> On 14/04/2018 15:25, Geoff Fletcher wrote:
>> Where is the source of the traffic noise in relation to the box Bernie?
>> 
>> Geoff F
>> 
>>> On Sat, Apr 14, 2018 at 2:05 PM, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
>>> This is the outside of the box. On the right hand side is a piece of gaffer tape covering the hole for the second camera.  That turned out to be a bit ambitious, as USB cameras tend to have the same address, or something like that.  Didn't work well, whatever.  
>>> 
>>> The sticks are wisteria, which will be first purple and then very green long before the chicks depart  - always assuming they get that far. It doesn't always work out - we've had nine fledglings leaving one year, and five abandoned babies another. 
>>> 
>>> It's all much smaller than it seems on the camera. Eggs are 1.6cm, 5/8" long. The hole in the box is about 4cm - maybe less, I don't want to go and measure at this point.
>>> 
>>> <jhpnkanlocmlohjg.png>
>>> 
>>> B
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> Tech1 mailing list
>>> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
>>> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk
>>> 
>> 
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From dave.mdv at btinternet.com  Sat Apr 14 15:54:46 2018
From: dave.mdv at btinternet.com (dave.mdv)
Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2018 21:54:46 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Rogue nests
In-Reply-To: <46059763-BE68-450A-8BB5-8FCAA09C084C@btinternet.com>
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	<b837142c-6d60-863b-fe04-924ebac0b6a9@gmail.com>
	<CAB99AB8ni=rxwPXU-svf5XYyn6tV_N_VTEJ9GGi1N_kuea3t6A@mail.gmail.com>
	<b9061057-5105-3437-cee7-41f2fd86a9ea@ntlworld.com>
	<46059763-BE68-450A-8BB5-8FCAA09C084C@btinternet.com>
Message-ID: <e48d3e34-1135-6b87-2228-56796c657df6@btinternet.com>

... here's another opportunist nest in a restaurant light fitting in 
Tobago! Cheers, Dave


On 14/04/2018 20:23, Albert Barber via Tech1 wrote:
> This dove has nested on a lamp in our gazebo!
>
> image1.jpeg
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On 14 Apr 2018, at 16:14, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 
> <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk <mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>> wrote:
>
>> We live here - 51.339627, -0.519230? on the fairly busy A245. The box 
>> is on the end of the red arrow.
>>
>> <gkpfbjipbkkndlom.png>
>>
>> B
>>
>>
>> On 14/04/2018 15:25, Geoff Fletcher wrote:
>>> Where is the source of the traffic noise in relation to the box Bernie?
>>>
>>> Geoff F
>>>
>>> On Sat, Apr 14, 2018 at 2:05 PM, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 
>>> <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk <mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>> wrote:
>>>
>>>     This is the outside of the box. On the right hand side is a
>>>     piece of gaffer tape covering the hole for the second camera.?
>>>     That turned out to be a bit ambitious, as USB cameras tend to
>>>     have the same address, or something like that.? Didn't work
>>>     well, whatever.
>>>
>>>     The sticks are wisteria, which will be first purple and then
>>>     very green long before the chicks depart? - always assuming they
>>>     get that far. It doesn't always work out - we've had nine
>>>     fledglings leaving one year, and five abandoned babies another.
>>>
>>>     It's all much smaller than it seems on the camera. Eggs are
>>>     1.6cm, 5/8" long. The hole in the box is about 4cm - maybe less,
>>>     I don't want to go and measure at this point.
>>>
>>>     <jhpnkanlocmlohjg.png>
>>>
>>>     B
>>>
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From dave.mdv at btinternet.com  Sun Apr 15 06:11:20 2018
From: dave.mdv at btinternet.com (dave.mdv)
Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2018 12:11:20 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Rogue nests
Message-ID: <016d0e98-0e87-adfc-9f39-3de7730cee50@btinternet.com>

... and here's another restaurant invader, this time in Barbados! 
Cheers, Dave

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From jpbarlow at btopenworld.com  Sun Apr 15 07:43:30 2018
From: jpbarlow at btopenworld.com (JohnB)
Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2018 13:43:30 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Nest box live
In-Reply-To: <5A10F6D2-4DBB-4493-92BC-C5232B22286C@me.com>
References: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAAGZqa+eRW5BPiUZNX5BsXSrCgAAAEAAAAEk7j4BYF2ZDobxad1+v1P0BAAAAAA==@dormand.biz>	<c029a8f1-92d8-2301-d5b2-cde637f51679@ntlworld.com>	<AA716A6339434A4CB6FE6112CCDE6835@henley1092>	<b837142c-6d60-863b-fe04-924ebac0b6a9@gmail.com>	<CAB99AB8ni=rxwPXU-svf5XYyn6tV_N_VTEJ9GGi1N_kuea3t6A@mail.gmail.com>
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Which reminds me: Does anyone have any news on Tony Abbey?

 

 

The cryptic remark was, I seem to recall, Tony?s response to a query from John Dailey:

 

In Red Tea bar

JD           Hello Tony. Where did you get that tan?

TA           The sun.

 

JohnB

 

From: Tech1 <tech1-bounces at tech-ops.co.uk> On Behalf Of Philip Tyler via Tech1
Sent: 14 April 2018 15:33
To: Geoff Fletcher <geoffletch at gmail.com>
Cc: Tech-Ops Group Group <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [Tech1] Nest box live

 

The road ?

 

Sorry couldn?t resist.

Philip


On 14 Apr 2018, at 15:25, Geoff Fletcher via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk <mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> > wrote:

Where is the source of the traffic noise in relation to the box Bernie?

 

Geoff F 

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From davidslawson at btinternet.com  Sun Apr 15 12:58:46 2018
From: davidslawson at btinternet.com (David Lawson)
Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2018 18:58:46 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Film Copyright
Message-ID: <6073FD85-253F-48B4-8156-A99FA877DB59@btinternet.com>

Has anyone here got any useful knowledge of copyright of feature films. I am involved with a local group who want to show a 1966 film believing it is out of copyright. A quick look at google suggests this could happen in 2035 or there abouts. 

Can anyone give me some more useful info on this as I suspect it could be expensive for them, and me as they want me to do the technical bit.

Dave Lawson

From peter.neill at icloud.com  Sun Apr 15 16:54:16 2018
From: peter.neill at icloud.com (Peter Neill)
Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2018 22:54:16 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Film Copyright
In-Reply-To: <6073FD85-253F-48B4-8156-A99FA877DB59@btinternet.com>
References: <6073FD85-253F-48B4-8156-A99FA877DB59@btinternet.com>
Message-ID: <3D0B6EE1-6653-44C5-B950-95B585CE2ADA@icloud.com>

Hi Dave,

I?ve asked Sarah Cronin-Stanley who runs the Talking Pictures TV channel. She replied:

Hi Peter
The law of ?public domain? or out of copyright doesn?t really exist in the U.K., if you tell me what the film is Noel will know where the rightsholders are.
Best wishes
Sarah

So let me know and we?ll find out. 

Peter

Sent from my iPhone. Apologies for typos and strange autocorrections. 

> On 15 Apr 2018, at 18:58, David Lawson via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> Has anyone here got any useful knowledge of copyright of feature films. I am involved with a local group who want to show a 1966 film believing it is out of copyright. A quick look at google suggests this could happen in 2035 or there abouts. 
> 
> Can anyone give me some more useful info on this as I suspect it could be expensive for them, and me as they want me to do the technical bit.
> 
> Dave Lawson
> -- 
> Tech1 mailing list
> Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
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From dave.mdv at btinternet.com  Sun Apr 15 16:57:25 2018
From: dave.mdv at btinternet.com (dave.mdv)
Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2018 22:57:25 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Nest boxes
Message-ID: <1fc93831-2e19-89f3-91cc-cb75135a8ac8@btinternet.com>

We have several different ones round the garden for different species. 
The RSPB recommendation is for 25mm. holes for coal, marsh and blue 
tits, 28mm. for great tits, and 32mm. for nuthatches, house and tree 
sparrows. We had a box, with Great Tits in, on the wall of the house 
just above the kitchen skylight, where we could see their comings and 
goings. One day there was the sound of a machine -gun and we could see a 
wood pecker doing his best to widen the hole! The RSPB website 
recommended putting a metal plate over the hole with the correct size 
hole in it (they sell them, btw), this I did and the next time the 
woodpecker tried to get at the babies he got a nasty headache! Cheers, Dave.



From bernie833 at gmail.com  Sun Apr 15 16:57:42 2018
From: bernie833 at gmail.com (Bernard Newnham)
Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2018 22:57:42 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Film Copyright
In-Reply-To: <6073FD85-253F-48B4-8156-A99FA877DB59@btinternet.com>
References: <6073FD85-253F-48B4-8156-A99FA877DB59@btinternet.com>
Message-ID: <f3285f35-b08b-d9e2-7bbf-fe633cc97577@ntlworld.com>

It isn't going to be out of copyright, and each film is different.

Look here -
https://www.independentcinemaoffice.org.uk/advice-support/screening-films-in-community-cinemas/
https://www.gov.uk/showing-films-in-public

B



On 15/04/2018 18:58, David Lawson via Tech1 wrote:
> Has anyone here got any useful knowledge of copyright of feature films. I am involved with a local group who want to show a 1966 film believing it is out of copyright. A quick look at google suggests this could happen in 2035 or there abouts.
>
> Can anyone give me some more useful info on this as I suspect it could be expensive for them, and me as they want me to do the technical bit.
>
> Dave Lawson

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From bernie833 at gmail.com  Sun Apr 15 16:58:15 2018
From: bernie833 at gmail.com (Bernard Newnham)
Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2018 22:58:15 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Film Copyright
In-Reply-To: <6073FD85-253F-48B4-8156-A99FA877DB59@btinternet.com>
References: <6073FD85-253F-48B4-8156-A99FA877DB59@btinternet.com>
Message-ID: <0aefb865-c855-1337-3126-79fb98119a11@gmail.com>

It isn't going to be out of copyright, and each film is different.

Look here -
https://www.independentcinemaoffice.org.uk/advice-support/screening-films-in-community-cinemas/
https://www.gov.uk/showing-films-in-public

B



On 15/04/2018 18:58, David Lawson via Tech1 wrote:
> Has anyone here got any useful knowledge of copyright of feature films. I am involved with a local group who want to show a 1966 film believing it is out of copyright. A quick look at google suggests this could happen in 2035 or there abouts.
>
> Can anyone give me some more useful info on this as I suspect it could be expensive for them, and me as they want me to do the technical bit.
>
> Dave Lawson

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From dave.mdv at btinternet.com  Sun Apr 15 17:04:05 2018
From: dave.mdv at btinternet.com (dave.mdv)
Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2018 23:04:05 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Garden hose adaptors
Message-ID: <448b9b94-d12e-b1b0-b82d-051ba734ef03@btinternet.com>

My wife was interested in the solid brass 'Power Shot' hose adaptor as 
our Lidl adaptor was split in two by the frost. This device claims to 
increase the water pressure by 45% and at the same time reduce water 
consumption by 45%. I, by nature, am sceptical! Anyone have any 
information? Cheers, Dave



From mibridge at mac.com  Sun Apr 15 18:01:42 2018
From: mibridge at mac.com (Mike Giles)
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2018 00:01:42 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Garden hose adaptors
In-Reply-To: <448b9b94-d12e-b1b0-b82d-051ba734ef03@btinternet.com>
References: <448b9b94-d12e-b1b0-b82d-051ba734ef03@btinternet.com>
Message-ID: <AF808D27-6C66-414C-BD1A-169B3F3F6182@mac.com>

No specific information, Dave, but surely it is logical that restricting the flow reduces the volume of water delivered in a given time, whilst increasing the pressure, as with any restricting hose attachment, or even a thumb over the end of the pipe. Useful if you are trying to cover a long distance or remove dirt, but less so if trying to deliver a given quantity of water.

Mike G

> On 15 Apr 2018, at 23:04, dave.mdv via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> Power Shot' hose adaptor

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From dave.mdv at btinternet.com  Sun Apr 15 19:42:41 2018
From: dave.mdv at btinternet.com (dave.mdv)
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2018 01:42:41 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Garden hose adaptors
In-Reply-To: <AF808D27-6C66-414C-BD1A-169B3F3F6182@mac.com>
References: <448b9b94-d12e-b1b0-b82d-051ba734ef03@btinternet.com>
	<AF808D27-6C66-414C-BD1A-169B3F3F6182@mac.com>
Message-ID: <a194c2c5-c920-8a7b-4205-a51e5dbbc83c@btinternet.com>

Thanks Mike, that's just what I thought! Cheers, Dave


On 16/04/2018 00:01, Mike Giles wrote:
> No specific information, Dave, but surely it is logical that 
> restricting the flow reduces the volume of water delivered in a given 
> time, whilst increasing the pressure, as with any restricting hose 
> attachment, or even a thumb over the end of the pipe. Useful if you 
> are trying to cover a long distance or remove dirt, but less so if 
> trying to deliver a given quantity of water.
>
> Mike G
>
>> On 15 Apr 2018, at 23:04, dave.mdv via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk 
>> <mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>> wrote:
>>
>> Power Shot' hose adaptor
>

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From keithwicksuk at gmail.com  Mon Apr 16 02:59:43 2018
From: keithwicksuk at gmail.com (Keith Wicks)
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2018 08:59:43 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Garden hose adaptors
In-Reply-To: <AF808D27-6C66-414C-BD1A-169B3F3F6182@mac.com>
References: <448b9b94-d12e-b1b0-b82d-051ba734ef03@btinternet.com>
	<AF808D27-6C66-414C-BD1A-169B3F3F6182@mac.com>
Message-ID: <CAA=qGJkKxfiubcstqb0Wf4fHkhwUZswZJ6cBavz3mKW-s+J==g@mail.gmail.com>

Mike is correct. And, to maximise the water pressure in the pipe, just
block the end of the hose completely. This will also save 100% of the water
normally used. But not much good for the lawn and plants.
KW

On 16 April 2018 at 00:01, Mike Giles via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
wrote:

> No specific information, Dave, but surely it is logical that restricting
> the flow reduces the volume of water delivered in a given time, whilst
> increasing the pressure, as with any restricting hose attachment, or even a
> thumb over the end of the pipe. Useful if you are trying to cover a long
> distance or remove dirt, but less so if trying to deliver a given quantity
> of water.
>
> Mike G
>
> On 15 Apr 2018, at 23:04, dave.mdv via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
>
> Power Shot' hose adaptor
>
>
>
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From mikej at bmanor.co.uk  Mon Apr 16 03:24:48 2018
From: mikej at bmanor.co.uk (Mike Jordan)
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2018 09:24:48 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Garden hose adaptors
In-Reply-To: <CAA=qGJkKxfiubcstqb0Wf4fHkhwUZswZJ6cBavz3mKW-s+J==g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <448b9b94-d12e-b1b0-b82d-051ba734ef03@btinternet.com><AF808D27-6C66-414C-BD1A-169B3F3F6182@mac.com>
	<CAA=qGJkKxfiubcstqb0Wf4fHkhwUZswZJ6cBavz3mKW-s+J==g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <E9D5309AF1B34B0693CF5FB3380C144E@Gigabyte>

A not dissimilar item on water pressure matters for the slightly more engineering minded!



Mike

From: Keith Wicks via Tech1 
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 8:59 AM
To: Mike Giles 
Cc: tech1 
Subject: Re: [Tech1] Garden hose adaptors

Mike is correct. And, to maximise the water pressure in the pipe, just block the end of the hose completely. This will also save 100% of the water normally used. But not much good for the lawn and plants.
KW
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From ravenscourt1 at btinternet.com  Mon Apr 16 03:29:09 2018
From: ravenscourt1 at btinternet.com (Albert Barber)
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2018 09:29:09 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Using an amp without speakers
Message-ID: <00A166F4-B883-4173-BC64-2B76D249742C@btinternet.com>

Chaps, I want to use my DENON CD/AMP unit as an aux output only to my hifi kit. 

Is it possible to run it without speakers using the aux out to my main preamp and then via my main amp to the speakers.

There are no valves in the system so with transistors I have heard that this would be ok.

Thanks Best To all
Albert



From bernie833 at gmail.com  Mon Apr 16 03:30:31 2018
From: bernie833 at gmail.com (Bernard Newnham)
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2018 09:30:31 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Birdcam is on
Message-ID: <acf01146-bae1-f814-eae3-5217116b921f@gmail.com>

https://www.youtube.com/user/bern444/live
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From chris at chriswoolf.co.uk  Mon Apr 16 03:56:05 2018
From: chris at chriswoolf.co.uk (Chris Woolf)
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2018 09:56:05 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Using an amp without speakers
In-Reply-To: <00A166F4-B883-4173-BC64-2B76D249742C@btinternet.com>
References: <00A166F4-B883-4173-BC64-2B76D249742C@btinternet.com>
Message-ID: <c048c105-1e8e-bbcf-cac4-52817dd7b03f@chriswoolf.co.uk>

Highly unlikely to cause any problems.

You won't damage any transistors - you just might find the amp shut down 
if it has a sophisticated protection system that monitors load current.

Try it - there's no real risk.

Chris Woolf


On 16/04/2018 09:29, Albert Barber via Tech1 wrote:
> Chaps, I want to use my DENON CD/AMP unit as an aux output only to my hifi kit.
>
> Is it possible to run it without speakers using the aux out to my main preamp and then via my main amp to the speakers.
>
> There are no valves in the system so with transistors I have heard that this would be ok.
>
> Thanks Best To all
> Albert
>
>


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From dave at davesound.co.uk  Mon Apr 16 04:22:43 2018
From: dave at davesound.co.uk (Dave Plowman)
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2018 10:22:43 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Using an amp without speakers
In-Reply-To: <00A166F4-B883-4173-BC64-2B76D249742C@btinternet.com>
References: <00A166F4-B883-4173-BC64-2B76D249742C@btinternet.com>
Message-ID: <56e9935d08dave@davesound.co.uk>

In article <00A166F4-B883-4173-BC64-2B76D249742C at btinternet.com>,
   Albert Barber via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> Chaps, I want to use my DENON CD/AMP unit as an aux output only to my
> hifi kit. 

> Is it possible to run it without speakers using the aux out to my main
> preamp and then via my main amp to the speakers.

> There are no valves in the system so with transistors I have heard that
> this would be ok.

> Thanks Best To all Albert

Yes - it should be OK.

-- 
*Don't worry about avoiding temptation.   As you grow older, it will avoid you.

    Dave Plowman     dave at davesound.co.uk     London SW 12
    


From ian.hillson at gmail.com  Mon Apr 16 05:02:52 2018
From: ian.hillson at gmail.com (Ian H)
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2018 11:02:52 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Today's BBC Pension payment
Message-ID: <CAO37+kZWN=nTpHcSpeuFM+G2vh7B4AJQ40LAv8h-Kt-OjfP=zQ@mail.gmail.com>

I notice today that Beeb Pensions are getting tardy - they used to pay out
on 15th and if this happened to be a Sat or Sun then they paid early on the
Friday.... but not this weekend.  They seem to have fallen into line with
meanie BBC salaries who always paid out late - if 16th fell on a Sat or Sun
they then hung on to payment until the Monday and reaped the benefit of all
that interest over the weekend.  And not standard banking practice, chaps.

Best
I
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From dave.mdv at btinternet.com  Mon Apr 16 05:02:56 2018
From: dave.mdv at btinternet.com (dave.mdv)
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2018 11:02:56 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Garden hose adaptors
In-Reply-To: <CAA=qGJkKxfiubcstqb0Wf4fHkhwUZswZJ6cBavz3mKW-s+J==g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <448b9b94-d12e-b1b0-b82d-051ba734ef03@btinternet.com>
	<AF808D27-6C66-414C-BD1A-169B3F3F6182@mac.com>
	<CAA=qGJkKxfiubcstqb0Wf4fHkhwUZswZJ6cBavz3mKW-s+J==g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5f1e9b41-87a2-d860-b837-9fa05a45db1a@btinternet.com>

Thanks Keith, 100% accurate as usual! Cheers, Dave


On 16/04/2018 08:59, Keith Wicks wrote:
> Mike is correct. And, to maximise the water pressure in the pipe, just 
> block the end of the hose completely. This will also save 100% of the 
> water normally used. But not much good for the lawn and plants.
> KW
>
> On 16 April 2018 at 00:01, Mike Giles via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk 
> <mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>> wrote:
>
>     No specific information, Dave, but surely it is logical that
>     restricting the flow reduces the volume of water delivered in a
>     given time, whilst increasing the pressure, as with any
>     restricting hose attachment, or even a thumb over the end of the
>     pipe. Useful if you are trying to cover a long distance or remove
>     dirt, but less so if trying to deliver a given quantity of water.
>
>     Mike G
>
>>     On 15 Apr 2018, at 23:04, dave.mdv via Tech1
>>     <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk <mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>> wrote:
>>
>>     Power Shot' hose adaptor
>
>
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From billjenkin67 at gmail.com  Mon Apr 16 05:25:21 2018
From: billjenkin67 at gmail.com (Bill Jenkin)
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2018 10:25:21 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Today's BBC Pension payment
In-Reply-To: <CAO37+kZWN=nTpHcSpeuFM+G2vh7B4AJQ40LAv8h-Kt-OjfP=zQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAO37+kZWN=nTpHcSpeuFM+G2vh7B4AJQ40LAv8h-Kt-OjfP=zQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAE6tP4D3JWj5QunjLFPCiNmFWajnabffFPm_zCvbdh4GxWDiaQ@mail.gmail.com>

I took the pension in 1997 and since then it has always  been paid on 16th
and if that falls at the weekend it gets paid before the weekend.

Bill Jenkin

On Mon, 16 Apr 2018, 11:03 Ian H via Tech1, <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:

> I notice today that Beeb Pensions are getting tardy - they used to pay out
> on 15th and if this happened to be a Sat or Sun then they paid early on the
> Friday.... but not this weekend.  They seem to have fallen into line with
> meanie BBC salaries who always paid out late - if 16th fell on a Sat or Sun
> they then hung on to payment until the Monday and reaped the benefit of all
> that interest over the weekend.  And not standard banking practice, chaps.
>
> Best
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From chriseames1944 at btinternet.com  Mon Apr 16 05:47:16 2018
From: chriseames1944 at btinternet.com (Chrie Eames)
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2018 11:47:16 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Garden hose adaptors
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Dave,
I would stick to the Lidl adapters, if you can get them. They are as good as Hozelock, and a fraction of the price. I bought them because the 'O' rings on my Hozelocks failed, and it was cheaper to buy them than replacement rings. 

Chris Eames
BTW. Why are you trying to save water? I have too much in my garden already. You are welcome to come and collect it!!!

> On 16 Apr 2018, at 11:02, dave.mdv via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> Thanks Keith, 100% accurate as usual! Cheers, Dave
> 
>> On 16/04/2018 08:59, Keith Wicks wrote:
>> Mike is correct. And, to maximise the water pressure in the pipe, just block the end of the hose completely. This will also save 100% of the water normally used. But not much good for the lawn and plants.
>> KW
>> 
>>> On 16 April 2018 at 00:01, Mike Giles via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
>>> No specific information, Dave, but surely it is logical that restricting the flow reduces the volume of water delivered in a given time, whilst increasing the pressure, as with any restricting hose attachment, or even a thumb over the end of the pipe. Useful if you are trying to cover a long distance or remove dirt, but less so if trying to deliver a given quantity of water.
>>> 
>>> Mike G
>>> 
>>>> On 15 Apr 2018, at 23:04, dave.mdv via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Power Shot' hose adaptor
>>> 
>>> 
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From peter.neill at icloud.com  Mon Apr 16 05:55:15 2018
From: peter.neill at icloud.com (Peter Neill)
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2018 10:55:15 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [Tech1] Today's BBC Pension payment
Message-ID: <4fc72c38-70ae-4e7e-8de2-a0a30dddef17@me.com>

Are you with NatWest by any chance? If so it is they not the Beeb to blame. They changed things recently.

Peter

On 16 Apr, 2018, at 11:03 AM, Ian H via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:

I notice today that Beeb Pensions are getting tardy - they used to pay out on 15th and if this happened to be a Sat or Sun then they paid early on the Friday.... but not this weekend.? They seem to have fallen into line with meanie BBC salaries who always paid out late - if 16th fell on a Sat or Sun they then hung on to payment until the Monday and reaped the benefit of all that interest over the weekend.? And not standard banking practice, chaps.

Best
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From billjenkin67 at gmail.com  Mon Apr 16 06:34:12 2018
From: billjenkin67 at gmail.com (Bill Jenkin)
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2018 12:34:12 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Birmingham celebrates etc
Message-ID: <002601d3d576$d89e5a30$89db0e90$@gmail.com>

If   you didn't see it you might find this bit of clever camera stuff
interesting. It was live in Victoria Square Birmingham celebrating the
handover of the Commonwealth Games. 
Any suggestions as to how they did it - it was all live don't forget and all
one shot until the final top shot.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-43755833

 

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From barrybonner119 at btinternet.com  Mon Apr 16 06:48:18 2018
From: barrybonner119 at btinternet.com (Barry Bonner)
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2018 12:48:18 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Birmingham celebrates etc
In-Reply-To: <002601d3d576$d89e5a30$89db0e90$@gmail.com>
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Programmable (very expensive) drone?
Barry.

On 16 Apr 2018, at 12:34, Bill Jenkin via Tech1 wrote:

If   you didn?t see it you might find this bit of clever camera stuff interesting. It was live in Victoria Square Birmingham celebrating the handover of the Commonwealth Games. 
Any suggestions as to how they did it ? it was all live don?t forget and all one shot until the final top shot.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-43755833
 
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From billjenkin67 at gmail.com  Mon Apr 16 06:56:23 2018
From: billjenkin67 at gmail.com (Bill Jenkin)
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2018 12:56:23 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Birmingham celebrates etc
In-Reply-To: <08BF2D86-BAE8-47FD-A74E-4F8A49813545@btinternet.com>
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Apparently it involved two Techno-cranes (one 50' and the other 75') and a
device called a 'Shot-dock', there were two tracking vehicle moves.  The
camera was actually passed through the hula hoops.

Bill

 

From: Barry Bonner [mailto:barrybonner119 at btinternet.com] 
Sent: 16 April 2018 12:48
To: Bill Jenkin
Cc: co. uk email group
Subject: Re: [Tech1] Birmingham celebrates etc

 

Programmable (very expensive) drone?

Barry.

 

On 16 Apr 2018, at 12:34, Bill Jenkin via Tech1 wrote:





If   you didn't see it you might find this bit of clever camera stuff
interesting. It was live in Victoria Square Birmingham celebrating the
handover of the Commonwealth Games. 
Any suggestions as to how they did it - it was all live don't forget and all
one shot until the final top shot.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-43755833

 

Bill Jenkin

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From j at howell61.f9.co.uk  Mon Apr 16 07:34:16 2018
From: j at howell61.f9.co.uk (John Howell)
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2018 13:34:16 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Birmingham celebrates etc
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.....with a foldback speaker slung under it?

or 500 in-ear monitors?

Most Impressive!

John H.



On 16/04/2018 12:48, Barry Bonner via Tech1 wrote:
> Programmable (very expensive) drone?
> Barry.
>
> On 16 Apr 2018, at 12:34, Bill Jenkin via Tech1 wrote:
>
> If?? you didn?t see it you might find this bit of clever camera stuff 
> interesting. It was live in Victoria Square Birmingham celebrating the 
> handover of the Commonwealth Games.
> Any suggestions as to how they did it ? it was all live don?t forget 
> and all one shot until the final top shot.
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-43755833
> Bill Jenkin
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From chriseames1944 at btinternet.com  Mon Apr 16 07:35:53 2018
From: chriseames1944 at btinternet.com (Chrie Eames)
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2018 13:35:53 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Hose connectors
Message-ID: <4F6846B9-80A4-4FDB-9764-C7A6AE2D040F@btinternet.com>

Dave,
I would stick to the Lidl adapters, if you can get them. They are as good as Hozelock, and a fraction of the price. I bought them because the 'O' rings on my Hozelocks failed, and it was cheaper to buy them than replacement rings. 

Chris Eames
BTW. Why are you trying to save water? I have too much in my garden already. You are welcome to come and collect it!!!



From ravenscourt1 at btinternet.com  Mon Apr 16 07:54:29 2018
From: ravenscourt1 at btinternet.com (Albert Barber)
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2018 13:54:29 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Today's BBC Pension payment
In-Reply-To: <CAO37+kZWN=nTpHcSpeuFM+G2vh7B4AJQ40LAv8h-Kt-OjfP=zQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAO37+kZWN=nTpHcSpeuFM+G2vh7B4AJQ40LAv8h-Kt-OjfP=zQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <98852805-BF94-4BCA-95E4-C3218656CC1D@btinternet.com>

Pensions from the Scheme are paid on the 16th of each month and, I am told, this has been the case for the last 20 years at least.  If the 16th falls on a weekend then pensions are paid to bank accounts on the preceding Friday.  The date of the 16th is made clear in communications to pensioners such as the guides on our website, and there has been no change to payment arrangements this month.
 
I think you may be confusing the practice for the BBC employees? payroll (which is paid on the 15th) with that for the pensioner payroll. 



> On 16 Apr 2018, at 11:02, Ian H via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> I notice today that Beeb Pensions are getting tardy - they used to pay out on 15th and if this happened to be a Sat or Sun then they paid early on the Friday.... but not this weekend.  They seem to have fallen into line with meanie BBC salaries who always paid out late - if 16th fell on a Sat or Sun they then hung on to payment until the Monday and reaped the benefit of all that interest over the weekend.  And not standard banking practice, chaps.
> 
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From chris at chriswoolf.co.uk  Mon Apr 16 07:59:30 2018
From: chris at chriswoolf.co.uk (Chris Woolf)
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2018 13:59:30 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Birmingham celebrates etc
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References: <002601d3d576$d89e5a30$89db0e90$@gmail.com>
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Seems it was done with a crane - remote panned camera on the end of it.

Music was in-ear foldback for ~everyone~, so a silent "auditorium".

Pretty impressive.

Chris Woolf


On 16/04/2018 12:34, Bill Jenkin via Tech1 wrote:
>
> If?? you didn?t see it you might find this bit of clever camera stuff 
> interesting. It was live in Victoria Square Birmingham celebrating the 
> handover of the Commonwealth Games.
> Any suggestions as to how they did it ? it was all live don?t forget 
> and all one shot until the final top shot.
>
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-43755833
>
> Bill Jenkin
>
>
>



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From roybailey100 at gmail.com  Mon Apr 16 09:27:19 2018
From: roybailey100 at gmail.com (Roy Bailey)
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2018 15:27:19 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Nest box live
In-Reply-To: <014401d3d4b7$5c5a1eb0$150e5c10$@btopenworld.com>
References: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAAGZqa+eRW5BPiUZNX5BsXSrCgAAAEAAAAEk7j4BYF2ZDobxad1+v1P0BAAAAAA==@dormand.biz>
	<c029a8f1-92d8-2301-d5b2-cde637f51679@ntlworld.com>
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John - Tony lived in Henley after life at the BBC.  Peter Fox and I had
chatted about him at the Lunches.  I knew his address and phone number so
today decided to give the number a ring.  To my slight surprise Tony
answered and we had a nice chat.  He seemed very pleased to hear from me
and reminisced a little, said he was 93, and that he and his wife were
reasonably well.  He also said if you or anyone else would like his number
that would be ok, just email me for it.

Roy


On 15 April 2018 at 13:43, JohnB via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:

> Which reminds me: Does anyone have any news on Tony Abbey?
>
>
>
>
>
> The cryptic remark was, I seem to recall, Tony?s response to a query from
> John Dailey:
>
>
>
> In Red Tea bar
>
> JD           Hello Tony. Where did you get that tan?
>
> TA           The sun.
>
>
>
> JohnB
>
>
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From roybailey100 at gmail.com  Mon Apr 16 09:41:21 2018
From: roybailey100 at gmail.com (Roy Bailey)
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2018 15:41:21 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Nest box live
In-Reply-To: <CAEoXqV2E6ynFUNDRcZEnNE8hd7757haP53-iTSVTfEWQZ31D3g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAAGZqa+eRW5BPiUZNX5BsXSrCgAAAEAAAAEk7j4BYF2ZDobxad1+v1P0BAAAAAA==@dormand.biz>
	<c029a8f1-92d8-2301-d5b2-cde637f51679@ntlworld.com>
	<AA716A6339434A4CB6FE6112CCDE6835@henley1092>
	<b837142c-6d60-863b-fe04-924ebac0b6a9@gmail.com>
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Another thought about Tony, Some 20 years or so ago I noticed a small boat
moored in Henley with the name 'TEE ESS' and often wondered if it belonged
to Tony, inspired by the TS cards he allegedly handed out!!  Not that I
ever received one.

Roy


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Date: 16 April 2018 at 15:27
Subject: Re: [Tech1] Nest box live
To: JohnB <jpbarlow at btopenworld.com>, Geoff C <geoffandsonja at blueyonder.co.
uk>
Cc: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk


John - Tony lived in Henley after life at the BBC.  Peter Fox and I had
chatted about him at the Lunches.  I knew his address and phone number so
today decided to give the number a ring.  To my slight surprise Tony
answered and we had a nice chat.  He seemed very pleased to hear from me
and reminisced a little, said he was 93, and that he and his wife were
reasonably well.  He also said if you or anyone else would like his number
that would be ok, just email me for it.

Roy


On 15 April 2018 at 13:43, JohnB via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:

> Which reminds me: Does anyone have any news on Tony Abbey?
>
>
>
>
>
> The cryptic remark was, I seem to recall, Tony?s response to a query from
> John Dailey:
>
>
>
> In Red Tea bar
>
> JD           Hello Tony. Where did you get that tan?
>
> TA           The sun.
>
>
>
> JohnB
>
>
>
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From bernie833 at gmail.com  Mon Apr 16 11:23:31 2018
From: bernie833 at gmail.com (Bernard Newnham)
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2018 17:23:31 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Birmingham celebrates etc
In-Reply-To: <002601d3d576$d89e5a30$89db0e90$@gmail.com>
References: <002601d3d576$d89e5a30$89db0e90$@gmail.com>
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This from the Birmingham Mail -
https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/how-birminghams-commonwealth-games-handover-14534366
has the answer - I think.

Steadycam on astep-on trailer behind an electric truck.It's a bit long 
distance, but I think that's what it is.

If you watch the piece, which is very badly shot, unlike the dance 
piece, there's also a ginormous crane in the square.






On 16/04/2018 12:34, Bill Jenkin via Tech1 wrote:
>
> If?? you didn?t see it you might find this bit of clever camera stuff 
> interesting. It was live in Victoria Square Birmingham celebrating the 
> handover of the Commonwealth Games.
> Any suggestions as to how they did it ? it was all live don?t forget 
> and all one shot until the final top shot.
>
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-43755833
>
> Bill Jenkin
>
>
>

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From bernie833 at gmail.com  Mon Apr 16 11:33:31 2018
From: bernie833 at gmail.com (Bernard Newnham)
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2018 17:33:31 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] And more
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"Some more behind the scenes footage
Here?s how it all looked from the edge of Victoria Square.

As mentioned earlier the dancers were listening to the song on earphones.

The only noise in the square was the buzzing of the drone camera above 
the performance."



On 16/04/2018 12:34, Bill Jenkin via Tech1 wrote:
>
> If?? you didn?t see it you might find this bit of clever camera stuff 
> interesting. It was live in Victoria Square Birmingham celebrating the 
> handover of the Commonwealth Games.
> Any suggestions as to how they did it ? it was all live don?t forget 
> and all one shot until the final top shot.
>
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-43755833
>
> Bill Jenkin
>
>
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From peter.neill at icloud.com  Mon Apr 16 11:34:21 2018
From: peter.neill at icloud.com (Peter Neill)
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2018 16:34:21 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [Tech1] Birmingham celebrates etc
Message-ID: <b0982933-0ddc-41d8-8a6d-4bd7b0471f64@me.com>

Various Facebook posts show that it was 2 technocranes a steadycam-type device (not steadycam itself) abd a thing called Shotdock which allows transferring of head from one device to another.

Just found this:

"This 6 minute, 1 take shot featured 2 crane hand on and offs on a 50ft Techno & 75ft Techno with our custom?#shotdock?system as well as 2 tracking vehicle moves and moving in and out of 2 buildings! Thank you to everyone involved, we wont be forgetting this one anytime soon! We?ll post BTS about this incredible event all week. ."

On 16 Apr, 2018, at 05:24 PM, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:

This from the Birmingham Mail - 
https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/how-birminghams-commonwealth-games-handover-14534366
has the answer - I think.??? 

Steadycam on a step-on trailer behind an electric truck. It's a bit long distance, but I think that's what it is.

If you watch the piece, which is very badly shot, unlike the dance piece, there's also a ginormous crane in the square.






On 16/04/2018 12:34, Bill Jenkin via Tech1 wrote:
If?? you didn?t see it you might find this bit of clever camera stuff interesting. It was live in Victoria Square Birmingham celebrating the handover of the Commonwealth Games. 
Any suggestions as to how they did it ? it was all live don?t forget and all one shot until the final top shot.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-43755833

?

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From peter.neill at icloud.com  Mon Apr 16 12:16:52 2018
From: peter.neill at icloud.com (Peter Neill)
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2018 17:16:52 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [Tech1] Birmingham celebrates etc
Message-ID: <12cf6a28-b564-46e3-898e-085db2cb83ab@me.com>

Various Facebook posts show that it was 2 technocranes a steadycam-type device (not steadycam itself) abd a thing called

On 16 Apr, 2018, at 05:24 PM, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:

This from the Birmingham Mail - 
https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/how-birminghams-commonwealth-games-handover-14534366
has the answer - I think.??? 

Steadycam on a step-on trailer behind an electric truck. It's a bit long distance, but I think that's what it is.

If you watch the piece, which is very badly shot, unlike the dance piece, there's also a ginormous crane in the square.






On 16/04/2018 12:34, Bill Jenkin via Tech1 wrote:
If?? you didn?t see it you might find this bit of clever camera stuff interesting. It was live in Victoria Square Birmingham celebrating the handover of the Commonwealth Games. 
Any suggestions as to how they did it ? it was all live don?t forget and all one shot until the final top shot.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-43755833

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From peter.neill at icloud.com  Mon Apr 16 12:21:00 2018
From: peter.neill at icloud.com (Peter Neill)
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2018 17:21:00 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [Tech1] Birmingham celebrates etc
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On 16 Apr, 2018, at 06:17 PM, Peter Neill via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:

Various Facebook posts show that it was 2 technocranes a steadycam-type device (not steadycam itself) and a thing called Shotdock - which allows transfer of camera between mountings while on shot.

Just found this:

"This 6 minute, 1 take shot featured 2 crane hand on and offs on a 50ft Techno & 75ft Techno with our custom?#shotdock?system as well as 2 tracking vehicle moves and moving in and out of 2 buildings! Thank you to everyone involved, we wont be forgetting this one anytime soon! We?ll post BTS about this incredible event all week. ."?

Peter?

On 16 Apr, 2018, at 05:24 PM, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:

This from the Birmingham Mail - 
https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/how-birminghams-commonwealth-games-handover-14534366
has the answer - I think.??? 

Steadycam on a step-on trailer behind an electric truck. It's a bit long distance, but I think that's what it is.

If you watch the piece, which is very badly shot, unlike the dance piece, there's also a ginormous crane in the square.






On 16/04/2018 12:34, Bill Jenkin via Tech1 wrote:
If?? you didn?t see it you might find this bit of clever camera stuff interesting. It was live in Victoria Square Birmingham celebrating the handover of the Commonwealth Games. 
Any suggestions as to how they did it ? it was all live don?t forget and all one shot until the final top shot.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-43755833

?

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From billjenkin67 at gmail.com  Mon Apr 16 12:27:31 2018
From: billjenkin67 at gmail.com (Bill Jenkin)
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2018 17:27:31 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Birmingham celebrates etc
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I gather the hand held stabiliser device is called a Movi.

On Mon, 16 Apr 2018, 18:22 Peter Neill via Tech1, <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
wrote:

>
>
> On 16 Apr, 2018, at 06:17 PM, Peter Neill via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
> Various Facebook posts show that it was 2 technocranes a steadycam-type
> device (not steadycam itself) and a thing called Shotdock - which allows
> transfer of camera between mountings while on shot.
>
>
> Just found this:
>
> "This 6 minute, 1 take shot featured 2 crane hand on and offs on a 50ft
> Techno & 75ft Techno with our custom #shotdock
> <https://www.facebook.com/hashtag/shotdock?hc_location=ufi> system as
> well as 2 tracking vehicle moves and moving in and out of 2 buildings!
> Thank you to everyone involved, we wont be forgetting this one anytime
> soon! We?ll post BTS about this incredible event all week. ."
>
> Peter
>
>
> On 16 Apr, 2018, at 05:24 PM, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 <
> tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
>
> This from the Birmingham Mail -
>
> https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/how-birminghams-commonwealth-games-handover-14534366
> has the answer - I think.
>
> Steadycam on a step-on trailer behind an electric truck. It's a bit long
> distance, but I think that's what it is.
>
> If you watch the piece, which is very badly shot, unlike the dance piece,
> there's also a ginormous crane in the square.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 16/04/2018 12:34, Bill Jenkin via Tech1 wrote:
>
> If   you didn?t see it you might find this bit of clever camera stuff
> interesting. It was live in Victoria Square Birmingham celebrating the
> handover of the Commonwealth Games.
> Any suggestions as to how they did it ? it was all live don?t forget and
> all one shot until the final top shot.
>
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-43755833
>
>
>
> Bill Jenkin
>
>
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From david.beer at talktalk.net  Mon Apr 16 12:58:20 2018
From: david.beer at talktalk.net (David Beer)
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2018 18:58:20 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Birmingham celebrates etc
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I remember being involved in something similar, albeit a lot simpler but 
still live, on (I think) a Rolf Harris Show in the 60's directed by 
Stewart Morris. We had the Flying Chair device attached to the front of 
the Mole Crane in the TV Theatre. Part way through the number, Rolf 
stepped onto the Flying Chair as extra weights were rapidly added to the 
bucket and the shot continued by craning up and around the set with RF 
in the foreground. We were easily impressed in those days!

Dave


On 16/04/2018 18:27, Bill Jenkin via Tech1 wrote:
> I gather the hand held stabiliser device is called a Movi.
>
> On Mon, 16 Apr 2018, 18:22 Peter Neill via Tech1, 
> <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk <mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>> wrote:
>
>
>
>     On 16 Apr, 2018, at 06:17 PM, Peter Neill via Tech1
>     <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk <mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>> wrote:
>
>>     Various Facebook posts show that it was 2 technocranes a
>>     steadycam-type device (not steadycam itself) and a thing called
>>     Shotdock - which allows transfer of camera between mountings
>>     while on shot.
>
>     Just found this:
>
>     "This 6 minute, 1 take shot featured 2 crane hand on and offs on a
>     50ft Techno & 75ft Techno with our custom #shotdock
>     <https://www.facebook.com/hashtag/shotdock?hc_location=ufi>?system
>     as well as 2 tracking vehicle moves and moving in and out of 2
>     buildings! Thank you to everyone involved, we wont be forgetting
>     this one anytime soon! We?ll post BTS about this incredible event
>     all week. ."
>
>     Peter
>>
>>     On 16 Apr, 2018, at 05:24 PM, Bernard Newnham via Tech1
>>     <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk <mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>> wrote:
>>
>>>     This from the Birmingham Mail -
>>>     https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/how-birminghams-commonwealth-games-handover-14534366
>>>     has the answer - I think.
>>>
>>>     Steadycam on astep-on trailer behind an electric truck.It's a
>>>     bit long distance, but I think that's what it is.
>>>
>>>     If you watch the piece, which is very badly shot, unlike the
>>>     dance piece, there's also a ginormous crane in the square.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>     On 16/04/2018 12:34, Bill Jenkin via Tech1 wrote:
>>>>
>>>>     If?? you didn?t see it you might find this bit of clever camera
>>>>     stuff interesting. It was live in Victoria Square Birmingham
>>>>     celebrating the handover of the Commonwealth Games.
>>>>     Any suggestions as to how they did it ? it was all live don?t
>>>>     forget and all one shot until the final top shot.
>>>>
>>>>     http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-43755833
>>>>
>>>>     Bill Jenkin
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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From waresound at msn.com  Mon Apr 16 13:06:38 2018
From: waresound at msn.com (Nick Ware)
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2018 18:06:38 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Birmingham celebrates etc
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Segway?
I?m sure you all remember the phenomenal Eurovision Segway/Steadicam shot from Belarus eight years ago. Gets me every time I see it!
Starts at 2?18? if you don?t want to see it all.
Play loud, it adds to the impact!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mvx_pOqyNDU
If that link doesn?t work, just search Eurovision Steadicam, it?s that famous!
Best,
Nick.

Sent from my iPad

On 16 Apr 2018, at 18:28, Bill Jenkin via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk<mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>> wrote:

I gather the hand held stabiliser device is called a Movi.

On Mon, 16 Apr 2018, 18:22 Peter Neill via Tech1, <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk<mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>> wrote:


On 16 Apr, 2018, at 06:17 PM, Peter Neill via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk<mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>> wrote:

Various Facebook posts show that it was 2 technocranes a steadycam-type device (not steadycam itself) and a thing called Shotdock - which allows transfer of camera between mountings while on shot.

Just found this:

"This 6 minute, 1 take shot featured 2 crane hand on and offs on a 50ft Techno & 75ft Techno with our custom #shotdock<https://www.facebook.com/hashtag/shotdock?hc_location=ufi> system as well as 2 tracking vehicle moves and moving in and out of 2 buildings! Thank you to everyone involved, we wont be forgetting this one anytime soon! We?ll post BTS about this incredible event all week. ."

Peter

On 16 Apr, 2018, at 05:24 PM, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk<mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>> wrote:

This from the Birmingham Mail -
https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/how-birminghams-commonwealth-games-handover-14534366
has the answer - I think.

Steadycam on a step-on trailer behind an electric truck. It's a bit long distance, but I think that's what it is.

If you watch the piece, which is very badly shot, unlike the dance piece, there's also a ginormous crane in the square.

[cid:c1b07340-4566-4c2f-8863-dfe2067380e0 at icloud.com]




On 16/04/2018 12:34, Bill Jenkin via Tech1 wrote:
If   you didn?t see it you might find this bit of clever camera stuff interesting. It was live in Victoria Square Birmingham celebrating the handover of the Commonwealth Games.
Any suggestions as to how they did it ? it was all live don?t forget and all one shot until the final top shot.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-43755833

Bill Jenkin



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From ian.hillson at gmail.com  Mon Apr 16 17:41:29 2018
From: ian.hillson at gmail.com (Ian H)
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2018 23:41:29 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Today's BBC Pension payment
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Sorry, operated mouth before engaging brain!

I

On Monday, April 16, 2018, Albert Barber <ravenscourt1 at btinternet.com>
wrote:

> Pensions from the Scheme are paid on the 16th of each month and, I am
> told, this has been the case for the last 20 years at least.  If the 16th falls
> on a weekend then pensions are paid to bank accounts on the preceding
> Friday.  The date of the 16th is made clear in communications to
> pensioners such as the guides on our website, and there has been no change
> to payment arrangements this month.
>
> I think you may be confusing the practice for the BBC employees? payroll
> (which is paid on the 15th) with that for the pensioner payroll.
>
>
>
> On 16 Apr 2018, at 11:02, Ian H via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
>
> I notice today that Beeb Pensions are getting tardy - they used to pay out
> on 15th and if this happened to be a Sat or Sun then they paid early on the
> Friday.... but not this weekend.  They seem to have fallen into line with
> meanie BBC salaries who always paid out late - if 16th fell on a Sat or Sun
> they then hung on to payment until the Monday and reaped the benefit of all
> that interest over the weekend.  And not standard banking practice, chaps.
>
> Best
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From grahamthecameraman at icloud.com  Tue Apr 17 00:30:38 2018
From: grahamthecameraman at icloud.com (Graham Maunder)
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2018 08:30:38 +0300
Subject: [Tech1] Birmingham celebrates etc
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This from the GTC forum:


So now you know!

Graham

Sent from my iPhone at 49,000ft!!

> On 16 Apr 2018, at 21:06, Nick Ware via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> Segway?
> I?m sure you all remember the phenomenal Eurovision Segway/Steadicam shot from Belarus eight years ago. Gets me every time I see it!
> Starts at 2?18? if you don?t want to see it all.
> Play loud, it adds to the impact!
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mvx_pOqyNDU
> If that link doesn?t work, just search Eurovision Steadicam, it?s that famous!
> Best,
> Nick.
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> On 16 Apr 2018, at 18:28, Bill Jenkin via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
>> I gather the hand held stabiliser device is called a Movi. 
>> 
>>> On Mon, 16 Apr 2018, 18:22 Peter Neill via Tech1, <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 16 Apr, 2018, at 06:17 PM, Peter Neill via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Various Facebook posts show that it was 2 technocranes a steadycam-type device (not steadycam itself) and a thing called Shotdock - which allows transfer of camera between mountings while on shot.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Just found this:
>>> 
>>> "This 6 minute, 1 take shot featured 2 crane hand on and offs on a 50ft Techno & 75ft Techno with our custom #shotdock system as well as 2 tracking vehicle moves and moving in and out of 2 buildings! Thank you to everyone involved, we wont be forgetting this one anytime soon! We?ll post BTS about this incredible event all week. ." 
>>> 
>>> Peter 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 16 Apr, 2018, at 05:24 PM, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> This from the Birmingham Mail - 
>>>>> https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/how-birminghams-commonwealth-games-handover-14534366
>>>>> has the answer - I think.    
>>>>> 
>>>>> Steadycam on a step-on trailer behind an electric truck. It's a bit long distance, but I think that's what it is.
>>>>> 
>>>>> If you watch the piece, which is very badly shot, unlike the dance piece, there's also a ginormous crane in the square.
>>>>> 
>>>>> <blkkkpgfafjpgpjc.png>
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 16/04/2018 12:34, Bill Jenkin via Tech1 wrote:
>>>>>> If   you didn?t see it you might find this bit of clever camera stuff interesting. It was live in Victoria Square Birmingham celebrating the handover of the Commonwealth Games. 
>>>>>> Any suggestions as to how they did it ? it was all live don?t forget and all one shot until the final top shot.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-43755833
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Bill Jenkin
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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From bernie833 at gmail.com  Tue Apr 17 16:15:08 2018
From: bernie833 at gmail.com (Bernard Newnham)
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2018 22:15:08 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] LNLU Z Cars behind the scenes
Message-ID: <57fceca2-f51e-e0ac-f30f-c4ed9ca1c56c@gmail.com>

I haven't seen this in full before, just a few stills.? Lots of people 
you know from about 1640. You can even renew your acquaintance with 
Rachel Blaney's interesting vision mixing technique.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4LHo0CtvsY&feature=share

B
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From davidvbrunt at gmail.com  Tue Apr 17 16:44:17 2018
From: davidvbrunt at gmail.com (David Brunt)
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2018 22:44:17 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] LNLU Z Cars behind the scenes
In-Reply-To: <57fceca2-f51e-e0ac-f30f-c4ed9ca1c56c@gmail.com>
References: <57fceca2-f51e-e0ac-f30f-c4ed9ca1c56c@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4E0A65FCC46F48B291BB2EA3C02E5979@AdminPC>

The making of the episode ?The Soft Game? [tx: 21-04-1965] but not shown for six months.  

Ian MacNaughton in the director?s chair.



From: Bernard Newnham via Tech1 
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2018 10:15 PM
To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk 
Subject: [Tech1] LNLU Z Cars behind the scenes

I haven't seen this in full before, just a few stills.  Lots of people you know from about 1640.   You can even renew your acquaintance with Rachel Blaney's interesting vision mixing technique.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4LHo0CtvsY&feature=share

B  



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From bernie833 at gmail.com  Wed Apr 18 03:01:04 2018
From: bernie833 at gmail.com (Bernard Newnham)
Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2018 09:01:04 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Birdcam
Message-ID: <7c2a5daa-e12c-9bab-c5a9-1c81afbfef76@gmail.com>

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnA9Rkr6Q0c&feature=youtu.be
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From hughsheppard at btinternet.com  Wed Apr 18 10:07:58 2018
From: hughsheppard at btinternet.com (Hugh Sheppard)
Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2018 16:07:58 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] LNLU Z Cars behind the scenes
In-Reply-To: <57fceca2-f51e-e0ac-f30f-c4ed9ca1c56c@gmail.com>
References: <57fceca2-f51e-e0ac-f30f-c4ed9ca1c56c@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <907dd009-7742-641b-cd48-3b5e6de0fcca@btinternet.com>

After my time on Z's, but Frank Holland, Dave Thompson, Bill Millar and 
Roy Adcock all v. recognisable on a skim-through, but not sure who was 
the speedy ped-pusher. Rachel Blaney, as ever THE most precise 
vision-mixer for cuts in exactly the same place - and the right place - 
each time. Must watch it all 'ere too long.

Hugh


On 17-Apr-18 10:15 PM, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 wrote:
> I haven't seen this in full before, just a few stills.? Lots of people 
> you know from about 1640. You can even renew your acquaintance with 
> Rachel Blaney's interesting vision mixing technique.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4LHo0CtvsY&feature=share
>
> B
>
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From tonycrake at gmail.com  Wed Apr 18 11:03:31 2018
From: tonycrake at gmail.com (Tony Crake)
Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2018 17:03:31 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] LNLU Z Cars behind the scenes
In-Reply-To: <907dd009-7742-641b-cd48-3b5e6de0fcca@btinternet.com>
References: <57fceca2-f51e-e0ac-f30f-c4ed9ca1c56c@gmail.com>
	<907dd009-7742-641b-cd48-3b5e6de0fcca@btinternet.com>
Message-ID: <CAMf6fxVJ8-zYwoNn7+HzmgVeNnkCmjLa0d59KOF1vedcAYXOEA@mail.gmail.com>

Les Wilkins and Pat Heigham on Sound.......

On 18 April 2018 at 16:07, Hugh Sheppard via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
wrote:

> After my time on Z's, but Frank Holland, Dave Thompson, Bill Millar and
> Roy Adcock all v. recognisable on a skim-through, but not sure who was the
> speedy ped-pusher. Rachel Blaney, as ever THE most precise vision-mixer for
> cuts in exactly the same place - and the right place - each time. Must
> watch it all 'ere too long.
>
> Hugh
>
> On 17-Apr-18 10:15 PM, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 wrote:
>
> I haven't seen this in full before, just a few stills.  Lots of people you
> know from about 1640.   You can even renew your acquaintance with Rachel Blaney's
> interesting vision mixing technique.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4LHo0CtvsY&feature=share
>
> B
>
>
>
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From geoffletch at gmail.com  Wed Apr 18 13:35:00 2018
From: geoffletch at gmail.com (Geoff Fletcher)
Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2018 18:35:00 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] LNLU Z Cars behind the scenes
In-Reply-To: <CAMf6fxVJ8-zYwoNn7+HzmgVeNnkCmjLa0d59KOF1vedcAYXOEA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <57fceca2-f51e-e0ac-f30f-c4ed9ca1c56c@gmail.com>
	<907dd009-7742-641b-cd48-3b5e6de0fcca@btinternet.com>
	<CAMf6fxVJ8-zYwoNn7+HzmgVeNnkCmjLa0d59KOF1vedcAYXOEA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAB99AB8RN0pDoO4GnUSwr3zt2Mzb4gxgqW6E3=6j=htyPtydhw@mail.gmail.com>

Otis Eddy?

On Wed, 18 Apr 2018 at 17:04, Tony Crake via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
wrote:

> Les Wilkins and Pat Heigham on Sound.......
>
> On 18 April 2018 at 16:07, Hugh Sheppard via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
>> After my time on Z's, but Frank Holland, Dave Thompson, Bill Millar and
>> Roy Adcock all v. recognisable on a skim-through, but not sure who was the
>> speedy ped-pusher. Rachel Blaney, as ever THE most precise vision-mixer for
>> cuts in exactly the same place - and the right place - each time. Must
>> watch it all 'ere too long.
>>
>> Hugh
>>
>> On 17-Apr-18 10:15 PM, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 wrote:
>>
>> I haven't seen this in full before, just a few stills.  Lots of people
>> you know from about 1640.   You can even renew your acquaintance with
>> Rachel Blaney's interesting vision mixing technique.
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4LHo0CtvsY&feature=share
>>
>> B
>>
>>
>>
>>
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From patheigham at amps.net  Wed Apr 18 14:18:38 2018
From: patheigham at amps.net (patrickheigham)
Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2018 20:18:38 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] LNLU Z Cars behind the scenes
In-Reply-To: <CAMf6fxVJ8-zYwoNn7+HzmgVeNnkCmjLa0d59KOF1vedcAYXOEA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <57fceca2-f51e-e0ac-f30f-c4ed9ca1c56c@gmail.com><907dd009-7742-641b-cd48-3b5e6de0fcca@btinternet.com>
	<CAMf6fxVJ8-zYwoNn7+HzmgVeNnkCmjLa0d59KOF1vedcAYXOEA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <004D443A47204106A82826D3A4E51DCB@PATRICKSONY>

Gosh! Yes, it is me, in the gallery and briefly at the outside rehearsal.
I did wonder if that was the time referred to a little while ago, about
being paid to appear in vision, but my memory is of an electronic
camera being deployed in the sound control, and the Z-Cars footage
looks like film?
I feel a bit of a fraud, copping the in-vision exposure, as Z-Cars was
not one of my regular shows on Grams.
Marion Gates, our scheduling secretary for Grams and Sound Supervisors
rang me at home one day, saying that she hadn't anyone to do a couple
of Z-Cars, and could I do them, on the promise of getting all the
Black & White Minstrels for the season.
I'm still in touch with her - she married an engineer, meeting in
Saudi, I think, and lives in France. I went to supper with her family
in Paris when I happened to be filming there.

Do you notice how smartly we dressed in those days!

Best
Pat
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Tony Crake via Tech1 
  To: Hugh Sheppard 
  Cc: Tech-Ops.co.uk email group 
  Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 5:03 PM
  Subject: Re: [Tech1] LNLU Z Cars behind the scenes


  Les Wilkins and Pat Heigham on Sound.......


  On 18 April 2018 at 16:07, Hugh Sheppard via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:

    After my time on Z's, but Frank Holland, Dave Thompson, Bill Millar and Roy Adcock all v. recognisable on a skim-through, but not sure who was the speedy ped-pusher. Rachel Blaney, as ever THE most precise vision-mixer for cuts in exactly the same place - and the right place - each time. Must watch it all 'ere too long. 


    Hugh




    On 17-Apr-18 10:15 PM, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 wrote:

      I haven't seen this in full before, just a few stills.  Lots of people you know from about 1640.   You can even renew your acquaintance with Rachel Blaney's interesting vision mixing technique.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4LHo0CtvsY&feature=share

      B 

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From bernie833 at gmail.com  Thu Apr 19 12:12:47 2018
From: bernie833 at gmail.com (Bernard Newnham)
Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2018 18:12:47 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Fwd: John Bowey
In-Reply-To: <AM5P18901MB00368828FDA115E3F7DD728ADFB50@AM5P18901MB0036.EURP189.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
References: <AM5P18901MB00368828FDA115E3F7DD728ADFB50@AM5P18901MB0036.EURP189.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
Message-ID: <44d33f1c-fc28-077e-df5a-10b6a091ae4f@ntlworld.com>




-------- Forwarded Message --------
Subject: 	John Bowey
Date: 	Thu, 19 Apr 2018 16:48:56 +0000
From: 	Peter Nash <petenash at hotmail.com>
To: 	TVNET at television-network.uk <TVNET at television-network.uk>



Hi All

Sorry to have to inform you all the John Bowey died this morning in
Hospital. He had been very ill for some time but it's still very sad
news. I will circulate any further news when I get it.

Pete

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From ian.hillson at gmail.com  Sat Apr 21 05:39:54 2018
From: ian.hillson at gmail.com (Ian H)
Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2018 11:39:54 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Spam
Message-ID: <CAO37+kZVXUaZTvKwfwBQCugG0MBsU7896Bqz4ZntZda6swRfmA@mail.gmail.com>

I've been getting a huge amount of spam over the past month - has someone
here had their address book hacked?

I'm fingering Tech Ops because I keep this account solely for emails from
here.

Just saying, in case otthers are suffering too,

I
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From bernie833 at gmail.com  Sat Apr 21 09:24:56 2018
From: bernie833 at gmail.com (Bernard Newnham)
Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2018 15:24:56 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Spam
In-Reply-To: <CAO37+kZVXUaZTvKwfwBQCugG0MBsU7896Bqz4ZntZda6swRfmA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAO37+kZVXUaZTvKwfwBQCugG0MBsU7896Bqz4ZntZda6swRfmA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <a0734823-6ee3-5918-2514-759026fd61c9@gmail.com>

Nothing extra here, spam wise.

B


On 21/04/2018 11:39, Ian H via Tech1 wrote:
> I've been getting a huge amount of spam over the past month - has 
> someone here had their address book hacked?
>
> I'm fingering Tech Ops because I keep this account solely for emails 
> from here.
>
> Just saying, in case otthers are suffering too,
>
> I
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From billjenkin67 at gmail.com  Sat Apr 21 10:43:13 2018
From: billjenkin67 at gmail.com (Bill Jenkin)
Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2018 15:43:13 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Spam
In-Reply-To: <CAO37+kZVXUaZTvKwfwBQCugG0MBsU7896Bqz4ZntZda6swRfmA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAO37+kZVXUaZTvKwfwBQCugG0MBsU7896Bqz4ZntZda6swRfmA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAE6tP4DKhAh641nWqu1iy4GO4s-VECqsfbL-4wp3sByL2L+P=A@mail.gmail.com>

No increase in spam for me on this email address.
Bill J

On Sat, 21 Apr 2018, 11:40 Ian H via Tech1, <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:

> I've been getting a huge amount of spam over the past month - has someone
> here had their address book hacked?
>
> I'm fingering Tech Ops because I keep this account solely for emails from
> here.
>
> Just saying, in case otthers are suffering too,
>
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From mibridge at mac.com  Sat Apr 21 10:49:30 2018
From: mibridge at mac.com (Mike Giles)
Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2018 16:49:30 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Spam
In-Reply-To: <CAE6tP4DKhAh641nWqu1iy4GO4s-VECqsfbL-4wp3sByL2L+P=A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAO37+kZVXUaZTvKwfwBQCugG0MBsU7896Bqz4ZntZda6swRfmA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAE6tP4DKhAh641nWqu1iy4GO4s-VECqsfbL-4wp3sByL2L+P=A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <F323FFCA-8A35-4F38-AF7A-9738EF0D5823@mac.com>

I do get a fair amount of spam, but nothing extra recently. 

Mike G

> On 21 Apr 2018, at 16:43, Bill Jenkin via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> No increase in spam for me on this email address.
> Bill J
> 
>> On Sat, 21 Apr 2018, 11:40 Ian H via Tech1, <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
>> I've been getting a huge amount of spam over the past month - has someone here had their address book hacked?
>> 
>> I'm fingering Tech Ops because I keep this account solely for emails from here.
>> 
>> Just saying, in case otthers are suffering too,
>> 
>> I
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From rogerbunce at btinternet.com  Sat Apr 21 12:55:57 2018
From: rogerbunce at btinternet.com (ROGER BUNCE)
Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2018 17:55:57 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Tech1] Spam
In-Reply-To: <F323FFCA-8A35-4F38-AF7A-9738EF0D5823@mac.com>
References: <CAO37+kZVXUaZTvKwfwBQCugG0MBsU7896Bqz4ZntZda6swRfmA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAE6tP4DKhAh641nWqu1iy4GO4s-VECqsfbL-4wp3sByL2L+P=A@mail.gmail.com>
	<F323FFCA-8A35-4F38-AF7A-9738EF0D5823@mac.com>
Message-ID: <537472259.4678296.1524333357051@mail.yahoo.com>

No Spam here - I'm in danger of going into a Monty Python sketch at?this point.
luv, Rog.
      From: Mike Giles via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
 To: Bill Jenkin <billjenkin67 at gmail.com>; tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk 
 Sent: Saturday, 21 April 2018, 16:50
 Subject: Re: [Tech1] Spam
   
I do get a fair amount of spam, but nothing extra recently.?
Mike G
On 21 Apr 2018, at 16:43, Bill Jenkin via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:


No increase in spam for me on this email address.Bill J
On Sat, 21 Apr 2018, 11:40 Ian H via Tech1, <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:

I've been getting a huge amount of spam over the past month - has someone here had their address book hacked?
I'm fingering Tech Ops because I keep this account solely for emails from here.
Just saying, in case otthers are suffering too,
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From geoffletch at gmail.com  Sat Apr 21 13:12:14 2018
From: geoffletch at gmail.com (Geoff Fletcher)
Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2018 18:12:14 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Spam
In-Reply-To: <537472259.4678296.1524333357051@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <CAO37+kZVXUaZTvKwfwBQCugG0MBsU7896Bqz4ZntZda6swRfmA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAE6tP4DKhAh641nWqu1iy4GO4s-VECqsfbL-4wp3sByL2L+P=A@mail.gmail.com>
	<F323FFCA-8A35-4F38-AF7A-9738EF0D5823@mac.com>
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Message-ID: <CAB99AB-znEy8KOtzLFcWy0E46g3-dQRLzzGJJsPRNtygBGZt1A@mail.gmail.com>

No extra spam on this address- also kept for Tech Ops use only.

On Sat, 21 Apr 2018 at 18:56, ROGER BUNCE via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
wrote:

> No Spam here - I'm in danger of going into a Monty Python sketch at this
> point.
>
> luv, Rog.
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Mike Giles via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
> *To:* Bill Jenkin <billjenkin67 at gmail.com>; tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
> *Sent:* Saturday, 21 April 2018, 16:50
> *Subject:* Re: [Tech1] Spam
>
> I do get a fair amount of spam, but nothing extra recently.
>
> Mike G
>
> On 21 Apr 2018, at 16:43, Bill Jenkin via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
> No increase in spam for me on this email address.
> Bill J
>
> On Sat, 21 Apr 2018, 11:40 Ian H via Tech1, <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
>
> I've been getting a huge amount of spam over the past month - has someone
> here had their address book hacked?
>
> I'm fingering Tech Ops because I keep this account solely for emails from
> here.
>
> Just saying, in case otthers are suffering too,
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From dave.mdv at btinternet.com  Sat Apr 21 13:16:25 2018
From: dave.mdv at btinternet.com (dave.mdv)
Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2018 19:16:25 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Spam.spam, glorious spam.
Message-ID: <fccbdaca-a34b-16ed-1367-86b7e298d8b0@btinternet.com>

We had spam fritters the other evening, do they count? Nothing else 
untoward. Cheers, Dave



From waresound at msn.com  Sat Apr 21 13:47:50 2018
From: waresound at msn.com (Nick Ware)
Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2018 18:47:50 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Spam.spam, glorious spam.
In-Reply-To: <fccbdaca-a34b-16ed-1367-86b7e298d8b0@btinternet.com>
References: <fccbdaca-a34b-16ed-1367-86b7e298d8b0@btinternet.com>
Message-ID: <DB7P192MB031327C75559087E86902923A78B0@DB7P192MB0313.EURP192.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>

Spam fritters! Haven?t had them since I was at prep school! I do get a fair amount of spam email on my MSN.com<http://MSN.com> account though, but I usually delete them immediately. If I had replied to all those ?beautiful young Russian f**k-buddies? I?d have been dead decades ago.
Cheers,
Nick.
Sent from my iPad

On 21 Apr 2018, at 19:17, dave.mdv via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk<mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>> wrote:

We had spam fritters the other evening, do they count? Nothing else untoward. Cheers, Dave


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From brian.curtis.bluesky at gmail.com  Sat Apr 21 18:52:45 2018
From: brian.curtis.bluesky at gmail.com (Brian Curtis)
Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2018 00:52:45 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Spam
In-Reply-To: <CAB99AB-znEy8KOtzLFcWy0E46g3-dQRLzzGJJsPRNtygBGZt1A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAO37+kZVXUaZTvKwfwBQCugG0MBsU7896Bqz4ZntZda6swRfmA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAE6tP4DKhAh641nWqu1iy4GO4s-VECqsfbL-4wp3sByL2L+P=A@mail.gmail.com>
	<F323FFCA-8A35-4F38-AF7A-9738EF0D5823@mac.com>
	<537472259.4678296.1524333357051@mail.yahoo.com>
	<CAB99AB-znEy8KOtzLFcWy0E46g3-dQRLzzGJJsPRNtygBGZt1A@mail.gmail.com>
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Spamless in Shanklin!

Cheers

Brian

On 21 April 2018 at 19:12, Geoff Fletcher via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
wrote:

> No extra spam on this address- also kept for Tech Ops use only.
>
> On Sat, 21 Apr 2018 at 18:56, ROGER BUNCE via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
>> No Spam here - I'm in danger of going into a Monty Python sketch at this
>> point.
>>
>> luv, Rog.
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* Mike Giles via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
>> *To:* Bill Jenkin <billjenkin67 at gmail.com>; tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
>> *Sent:* Saturday, 21 April 2018, 16:50
>> *Subject:* Re: [Tech1] Spam
>>
>> I do get a fair amount of spam, but nothing extra recently.
>>
>> Mike G
>>
>> On 21 Apr 2018, at 16:43, Bill Jenkin via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
>> wrote:
>>
>> No increase in spam for me on this email address.
>> Bill J
>>
>> On Sat, 21 Apr 2018, 11:40 Ian H via Tech1, <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>> I've been getting a huge amount of spam over the past month - has someone
>> here had their address book hacked?
>>
>> I'm fingering Tech Ops because I keep this account solely for emails from
>> here.
>>
>> Just saying, in case otthers are suffering too,
>>
>> I
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From peter.fox at tiscali.co.uk  Sun Apr 22 05:04:30 2018
From: peter.fox at tiscali.co.uk (Peter Fox)
Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2018 11:04:30 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Spam.spam, glorious spam.
In-Reply-To: <DB7P192MB031327C75559087E86902923A78B0@DB7P192MB0313.EURP192.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
References: <fccbdaca-a34b-16ed-1367-86b7e298d8b0@btinternet.com>
	<DB7P192MB031327C75559087E86902923A78B0@DB7P192MB0313.EURP192.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
Message-ID: <84D5E64B-8BE7-4B3C-9249-B3D620C8D8BE@tiscali.co.uk>

My very very first BBC canteen meal in BH, on the induction course, October 1962 was spam fritters and spaghetti. and I swore never to have them ever ever again. And I didnt.

Peter F

> On 21 Apr 2018, at 19:47, Nick Ware via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> Spam fritters! Haven?t had them since I was at prep school! I do get a fair amount of spam email on my MSN.com account though, but I usually delete them immediately. If I had replied to all those ?beautiful young Russian f**k-buddies? I?d have been dead decades ago.
> Cheers,
> Nick.
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> On 21 Apr 2018, at 19:17, dave.mdv via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
>> We had spam fritters the other evening, do they count? Nothing else untoward. Cheers, Dave
>> 
>> 
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From tonynuttall at me.com  Sun Apr 22 07:05:39 2018
From: tonynuttall at me.com (William Nuttall)
Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2018 12:05:39 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [Tech1] NO Spam
Message-ID: <87d7e357-2f87-4f44-b5c2-3085ee35d554@me.com>

No SPAM in Cumbria (part of the Northern Power House)
Lots of Cumberland sausage though and a strange
Yellow object in the sky! Not seen the Yellow thing for
at least seven months

Tony N.
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From graeme.wall at icloud.com  Sun Apr 22 07:29:36 2018
From: graeme.wall at icloud.com (Graeme Wall)
Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2018 13:29:36 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] NO Spam
In-Reply-To: <87d7e357-2f87-4f44-b5c2-3085ee35d554@me.com>
References: <87d7e357-2f87-4f44-b5c2-3085ee35d554@me.com>
Message-ID: <01CE9C06-D75D-4D78-98A5-F6710C5C5108@icloud.com>

Is it a bird, is it a plane?
? 
Graeme Wall





> On 22 Apr 2018, at 13:05, William Nuttall via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> No SPAM in Cumbria (part of the Northern Power House)
> Lots of Cumberland sausage though and a strange
> Yellow object in the sky! Not seen the Yellow thing for
> at least seven months
> 
> Tony N.
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From billjenkin67 at gmail.com  Sun Apr 22 09:05:40 2018
From: billjenkin67 at gmail.com (Bill Jenkin)
Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2018 15:05:40 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Spam
Message-ID: <003e01d3da42$ffae0e10$ff0a2a30$@gmail.com>

The mind boggles:


 

> -----Original Message-----

> From: Tech1 [mailto:tech1-bounces at tech-ops.co.uk] On Behalf Of Graeme

> Wall via Tech1

> Sent: 22 April 2018 13:30

> To: William Nuttall

> Cc: Bernard Newnham; Bernard Newnham

> Subject: Re: [Tech1] NO Spam

> 

> Is it a bird, is it a plane?

> ?

> Graeme Wall

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> > On 22 Apr 2018, at 13:05, William Nuttall via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>

> wrote:

> >

> > No SPAM in Cumbria (part of the Northern Power House)

> > Lots of Cumberland sausage though and a strange

> > Yellow object in the sky! Not seen the Yellow thing for

> > at least seven months

> >

> > Tony N.

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From richardjblencowe at gmail.com  Sun Apr 22 09:17:06 2018
From: richardjblencowe at gmail.com (Richard Blencowe)
Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2018 15:17:06 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] The Queens Birthday Bash
Message-ID: <000001d3da44$9837c760$c8a75620$@com>

Hi Guys,

 

Maybe I am I getting old like the Queen but I only found a few of the acts
at the Albert Hall to my taste and I wonder if the Queen actually enjoyed
it? To my mind the best  was "When I'm cleaning Windows" which probably sums
up my "old" outlook!

 

As for the TV presentation it was mediocre and I found the constant cuts to
the moving wide shot most irritating, as for me, I want to see the artist
who is performing. There were no credits at the end, maybe nobody wanted to
admit they were involved!

 

Cheers

 

Dick

 

 



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From geoffletch at gmail.com  Sun Apr 22 09:26:37 2018
From: geoffletch at gmail.com (Geoff Fletcher)
Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2018 14:26:37 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] The Queens Birthday Bash
In-Reply-To: <000001d3da44$9837c760$c8a75620$@com>
References: <000001d3da44$9837c760$c8a75620$@com>
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Only credit I saw was the BBC Studioworks one.
I only caught the last few minutes though.
Geoff F

On Sun, 22 Apr 2018 at 15:17, Richard Blencowe via Tech1 <
tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:

> Hi Guys,
>
>
>
> Maybe I am I getting old like the Queen but I only found a few of the acts
> at the Albert Hall to my taste and I wonder if the Queen actually enjoyed
> it? To my mind the best  was ?When I?m cleaning Windows? which probably
> sums up my ?old? outlook!
>
>
>
> As for the TV presentation it was mediocre and I found the constant cuts
> to the moving wide shot most irritating, as for me, I want to see the
> artist who is performing. There were no credits at the end, maybe nobody
> wanted to admit they were involved!
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
>
>
> Dick
>
>
>
>
>
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From dave at davesound.co.uk  Sun Apr 22 09:17:50 2018
From: dave at davesound.co.uk (Dave Plowman)
Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2018 15:17:50 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Spam
In-Reply-To: <CAO37+kZVXUaZTvKwfwBQCugG0MBsU7896Bqz4ZntZda6swRfmA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAO37+kZVXUaZTvKwfwBQCugG0MBsU7896Bqz4ZntZda6swRfmA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <56ecc565c5dave@davesound.co.uk>

In article
<CAO37+kZVXUaZTvKwfwBQCugG0MBsU7896Bqz4ZntZda6swRfmA at mail.gmail.com>,
   Ian H via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> I've been getting a huge amount of spam over the past month - has someone
> here had their address book hacked?

> I'm fingering Tech Ops because I keep this account solely for emails from
> here.

> Just saying, in case otthers are suffering too,

I did some time ago get quite a few spam mails with sender names I
recognised from on here. But weren't by the content.

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From mibridge at mac.com  Sun Apr 22 11:26:51 2018
From: mibridge at mac.com (Mike Giles)
Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2018 17:26:51 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] The Queens Birthday Bash
In-Reply-To: <000001d3da44$9837c760$c8a75620$@com>
References: <000001d3da44$9837c760$c8a75620$@com>
Message-ID: <361C2C0E-38AD-435D-930D-50D47143392F@mac.com>

We totally agree with you, Dick, and only continued watching because we couldn?t believe how poor most of it was - almost all of it inappropriate for the occasion. We liked Frank Skinner, but could have done without Balls and Enfield, Jamie Cullum was impressive, and some of the ethnic stuff was probably apt, but we hated Alfie Boe?s strangulated renditions and most of the rest. 

It was a shame to keep HMQ up so late as she had to be up this morning to start the marathon!

Mike G

> On 22 Apr 2018, at 15:17, Richard Blencowe via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> Hi Guys,
>  
> Maybe I am I getting old like the Queen but I only found a few of the acts at the Albert Hall to my taste and I wonder if the Queen actually enjoyed it? To my mind the best  was ?When I?m cleaning Windows? which probably sums up my ?old? outlook!
>  
> As for the TV presentation it was mediocre and I found the constant cuts to the moving wide shot most irritating, as for me, I want to see the artist who is performing. There were no credits at the end, maybe nobody wanted to admit they were involved!
>  
> Cheers
>  
> Dick
>  
>  
> 
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From patheigham at amps.net  Sun Apr 22 13:33:54 2018
From: patheigham at amps.net (patrickheigham)
Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2018 19:33:54 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] The Queens Birthday Bash
In-Reply-To: <361C2C0E-38AD-435D-930D-50D47143392F@mac.com>
References: <000001d3da44$9837c760$c8a75620$@com>
	<361C2C0E-38AD-435D-930D-50D47143392F@mac.com>
Message-ID: <1D4875059F1D4C14BDAF46D8B00218B3@PATRICKSONY>

I didn't view the programme, but with EllR reaching 92 (grand!)
I'm reminded of working on a TV programme to celebrate
Churchill's 90th. Here's a story:

Gram Op Finger Trouble!

In the 60?s I worked on a fantastic programme to celebrate Winston Churchill?s 90th Birthday.

It took the form of a resum? of the entertainments that would have been prevalent during his life ?music hall ? plays etc. I was busy on most of the pre-recorded, well-staged reconstructions, and the whole thing was to be assembled like a live show in LG ?G?, with 625, 525 Ampex, 16 and 35mm telerecording also.

The Director was Michael Mills, Len Shorey the Sound Supervisor. 

There were loads of telecine and VT inserts, Noel Coward live narrating in the studio, and lots of audio tape material of speeches and music.

Accidentally, I forgot to close the fader after a piece of taped narration, and it ran on into the next cue! Michael Mills was furious and stomped into the Sound Control shouting at me: ?That?s going all over the World, and you?ve made a mistake!? I wished the floor would open. Just after that, there was a cut to a caption camera that focussed up late, on shot, then a VT insert was miscued, and the opening music bars were missed, so then it all came to a grinding halt. Of course, it all went back to the point of my mistake, so I was wearing it.



Pat

(Hanging his head in shame)

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Mike Giles via Tech1 
  To: Richard Blencowe ; tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk 
  Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2018 5:26 PM
  Subject: Re: [Tech1] The Queens Birthday Bash


  We totally agree with you, Dick, and only continued watching because we couldn?t believe how poor most of it was - almost all of it inappropriate for the occasion. We liked Frank Skinner, but could have done without Balls and Enfield, Jamie Cullum was impressive, and some of the ethnic stuff was probably apt, but we hated Alfie Boe?s strangulated renditions and most of the rest. 


  It was a shame to keep HMQ up so late as she had to be up this morning to start the marathon!


  Mike G

  On 22 Apr 2018, at 15:17, Richard Blencowe via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:


    Hi Guys,



    Maybe I am I getting old like the Queen but I only found a few of the acts at the Albert Hall to my taste and I wonder if the Queen actually enjoyed it? To my mind the best  was ?When I?m cleaning Windows? which probably sums up my ?old? outlook!



    As for the TV presentation it was mediocre and I found the constant cuts to the moving wide shot most irritating, as for me, I want to see the artist who is performing. There were no credits at the end, maybe nobody wanted to admit they were involved!



    Cheers



    Dick









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From dave.mdv at btinternet.com  Sun Apr 22 15:16:27 2018
From: dave.mdv at btinternet.com (dave.mdv)
Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2018 21:16:27 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] The Queens Birthday Bash
In-Reply-To: <1D4875059F1D4C14BDAF46D8B00218B3@PATRICKSONY>
References: <000001d3da44$9837c760$c8a75620$@com>
	<361C2C0E-38AD-435D-930D-50D47143392F@mac.com>
	<1D4875059F1D4C14BDAF46D8B00218B3@PATRICKSONY>
Message-ID: <091afff7-c5de-031b-44c0-75d54ea2dc21@btinternet.com>


I also worked on the Churchill program and had to stand and watch the 
Margo Fonteyn doing the 'Dying Swan' at least nine times (until SHE was 
satisfied with it!) by which time I could have died as well! I'm told 
that the great man fell asleep during the live transmission anyway so 
that was that! Cheers, Dave
On 22/04/2018 19:33, patrickheigham via Tech1 wrote:
> I didn't view the programme, but with EllR reaching 92 (grand!)
> I'm reminded of working on a TV programme to celebrate
> Churchill's 90th. Here's a story:
>
> *Gram Op Finger Trouble!*
>
> In the 60?s I worked on a fantastic programme to celebrate Winston 
> Churchill?s 90^th Birthday.
>
> It took the form of a resum? of the entertainments that would have 
> been prevalent during his life ?music hall ? plays etc. I was busy on 
> most of the pre-recorded, well-staged reconstructions, and the whole 
> thing was to be assembled like a live show in LG ?G?, with 625, 525 
> Ampex, 16 and 35mm telerecording also.
>
> The Director was Michael Mills, Len Shorey the Sound Supervisor.
>
> There were loads of telecine and VT inserts, Noel Coward live 
> narrating in the studio, and lots of audio tape material of speeches 
> and music.
>
> Accidentally, I forgot to close the fader after a piece of taped 
> narration, and it ran on into the next cue! Michael Mills was furious 
> and stomped into the Sound Control shouting at me: ?That?s going all 
> over the World, and _you?ve made a mistake_!? I wished the floor would 
> open. Just after that, there was a cut to a caption camera that 
> focussed up late, on shot, then a VT insert was miscued, and the 
> opening music bars were missed, so then it all came to a grinding 
> halt. Of course, it all went back to the point of _my_ mistake, so I 
> was wearing it.
>
> Pat
>
> (Hanging his head in shame)
>
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     *From:* Mike Giles via Tech1 <mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
>     *To:* Richard Blencowe <mailto:richardjblencowe at gmail.com> ;
>     tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk <mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
>     *Sent:* Sunday, April 22, 2018 5:26 PM
>     *Subject:* Re: [Tech1] The Queens Birthday Bash
>
>     We totally agree with you, Dick, and only continued watching
>     because we couldn?t believe how poor most of it was - almost all
>     of it inappropriate for the occasion. We liked Frank Skinner, but
>     could have done without Balls and Enfield, Jamie Cullum was
>     impressive, and some of the ethnic stuff was probably apt, but we
>     hated Alfie Boe?s strangulated renditions and most of the rest.
>
>     It was a shame to keep HMQ up so late as she had to be up this
>     morning to start the marathon!
>
>     Mike G
>
>     On 22 Apr 2018, at 15:17, Richard Blencowe via Tech1
>     <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk <mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>> wrote:
>
>>     Hi Guys,
>>
>>     Maybe I am I getting old like the Queen but I only found a few of
>>     the acts at the Albert Hall to my taste and I wonder if the Queen
>>     actually enjoyed it? To my mind the best? was ?When I?m cleaning
>>     Windows? which probably sums up my ?old? outlook!
>>
>>     As for the TV presentation it was mediocre and I found the
>>     constant cuts to the moving wide shot most irritating, as for me,
>>     I want to see the artist who is performing. There were no credits
>>     at the end, maybe nobody wanted to admit they were involved!
>>
>>     Cheers
>>
>>     Dick
>>
>>
>
>

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From ian.hillson at gmail.com  Mon Apr 23 06:27:52 2018
From: ian.hillson at gmail.com (Ian H)
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2018 12:27:52 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] The Queens Birthday Bash
In-Reply-To: <000001d3da44$9837c760$c8a75620$@com>
References: <000001d3da44$9837c760$c8a75620$@com>
Message-ID: <CAO37+kYZeOmkHHgGwkxPOzu2HSJk663A6jr+t1iAiJUPS-s+eA@mail.gmail.com>

Some credits for you:


*A 36-year-old American woman was subjected to an ancient and bizarre
British ritual in London last night. The woman, who intends to marry into
the Royal Family, was the victim of trial by variety......*

*......I give you TV Director (and freelance) Simon Staffurth, who clearly
would have preferred to cut to reaction shots of Megan and
Grandma-in-law-to-be for the nano-seconds that they might have been
enjoying themselves - sadly not captured. The whole was edited by Alison
Popplewell, BBC Editor, Ceremonial Events and author of How To Make a Royal
Weep, and produced by Alison Howe, of Later..With Jools Holland.*

http://tradingaswdr.blogspot.co.uk/2018/04/ordeal.html

On Sun, Apr 22, 2018 at 3:17 PM, Richard Blencowe via Tech1 <
tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:

> Hi Guys,
>
>
>
> Maybe I am I getting old like the Queen but I only found a few of the acts
> at the Albert Hall to my taste and I wonder if the Queen actually enjoyed
> it? To my mind the best  was ?When I?m cleaning Windows? which probably
> sums up my ?old? outlook!
>
>
>
> As for the TV presentation it was mediocre and I found the constant cuts
> to the moving wide shot most irritating, as for me, I want to see the
> artist who is performing. There were no credits at the end, maybe nobody
> wanted to admit they were involved!
>
>
>
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>
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From graeme.wall at icloud.com  Mon Apr 23 06:38:27 2018
From: graeme.wall at icloud.com (Graeme Wall)
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2018 12:38:27 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] The Queens Birthday Bash
In-Reply-To: <CAO37+kYZeOmkHHgGwkxPOzu2HSJk663A6jr+t1iAiJUPS-s+eA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <000001d3da44$9837c760$c8a75620$@com>
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Simon was a cameraman at TVS Maidstone when I knew him, good skier.
? 
Graeme Wall





> On 23 Apr 2018, at 12:27, Ian H via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> Some credits for you:
> 
> A 36-year-old American woman was subjected to an ancient and bizarre British ritual in London last night. The woman, who intends to marry into the Royal Family, was the victim of trial by variety......
> 
> ......I give you TV Director (and freelance) Simon Staffurth, who clearly would have preferred to cut to reaction shots of Megan and Grandma-in-law-to-be for the nano-seconds that they might have been enjoying themselves - sadly not captured. The whole was edited by Alison Popplewell, BBC Editor, Ceremonial Events and author of How To Make a Royal Weep, and produced by Alison Howe, of Later..With Jools Holland.
> 
> http://tradingaswdr.blogspot.co.uk/2018/04/ordeal.html
> 
> On Sun, Apr 22, 2018 at 3:17 PM, Richard Blencowe via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> Hi Guys,
> 
>  
> 
> Maybe I am I getting old like the Queen but I only found a few of the acts at the Albert Hall to my taste and I wonder if the Queen actually enjoyed it? To my mind the best  was ?When I?m cleaning Windows? which probably sums up my ?old? outlook!
> 
>  
> 
> As for the TV presentation it was mediocre and I found the constant cuts to the moving wide shot most irritating, as for me, I want to see the artist who is performing. There were no credits at the end, maybe nobody wanted to admit they were involved!
> 
>  
> 
> Cheers
> 
>  
> 
> Dick
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>  
> 
>  
> 
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From teateatone2 at gmail.com  Mon Apr 23 08:37:57 2018
From: teateatone2 at gmail.com (Tony Grant)
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2018 14:37:57 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Spam
In-Reply-To: <003e01d3da42$ffae0e10$ff0a2a30$@gmail.com>
References: <003e01d3da42$ffae0e10$ff0a2a30$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAEMv0ROk20JujSAv4Yx8A86TTgPgLCUg_KXN8bYmd9EEOxwzvQ@mail.gmail.com>

Yellow object in sky is one of those 'emoji' whatsits, it's not there
today, so all's back to normal!

TeaTeaFN - Tony

On Sun, Apr 22, 2018 at 3:05 PM, Bill Jenkin via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
> wrote:

> The mind boggles:
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
>
> > From: Tech1 [mailto:tech1-bounces at tech-ops.co.uk] On Behalf Of Graeme
>
> > Wall via Tech1
>
> > Sent: 22 April 2018 13:30
>
> > To: William Nuttall
>
> > Cc: Bernard Newnham; Bernard Newnham
>
> > Subject: Re: [Tech1] NO Spam
>
> >
>
> > Is it a bird, is it a plane?
>
> > ?
>
> > Graeme Wall
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > > On 22 Apr 2018, at 13:05, William Nuttall via Tech1 <
> tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
>
> > wrote:
>
> > >
>
> > > No SPAM in Cumbria (part of the Northern Power House)
>
> > > Lots of Cumberland sausage though and a strange
>
> > > Yellow object in the sky! Not seen the Yellow thing for
>
> > > at least seven months
>
> > >
>
> > > Tony N.
>
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From dave.mdv at btinternet.com  Tue Apr 24 12:21:58 2018
From: dave.mdv at btinternet.com (dave.mdv)
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2018 18:21:58 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Prayer
Message-ID: <7a889700-31aa-557a-c3c3-bd833c821e2f@btinternet.com>

I came across this short prayer the other day and? have been wondering 
who could have written it? It seems very appropriate in today's world. 
How about Boris, or John Birt, or ....your local manager? Have a guess! 
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From patheigham at amps.net  Tue Apr 24 14:11:57 2018
From: patheigham at amps.net (patrickheigham)
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2018 20:11:57 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Prayer
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Message-ID: <F0C990C8B7884D51B65C8EB8B563D449@PATRICKSONY>

POTUS?

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "dave.mdv via Tech1" <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
To: <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2018 6:21 PM
Subject: [Tech1] Prayer


>I came across this short prayer the other day and have been wondering 
> who could have written it? It seems very appropriate in today's world. 
> How about Boris, or John Birt, or ....your local manager? Have a guess! 
> Cheers, Dave


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From billjenkin67 at gmail.com  Wed Apr 25 02:40:07 2018
From: billjenkin67 at gmail.com (Bill Jenkin)
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2018 08:40:07 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Birmingham celebrates etc
In-Reply-To: <7AE0E506-88C9-40B2-9613-243D7AB4FAC2@icloud.com>
References: <12cf6a28-b564-46e3-898e-085db2cb83ab@me.com>	<b4c21431-4eee-4071-bc63-256bf5e58afc@me.com>	<CAE6tP4Aymb5-dL4SZp0ge5Sq==80BMamob0FdydMtvbQ-RPzKA@mail.gmail.com>	<DB7P192MB031316E99FBDFC9C865916E3A7B00@DB7P192MB0313.EURP192.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
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Here?s a bit more about that shot if you?re interested:
https://everyaxis.com/superhuman-camerawork-a-6-minute-one-take-live-shot-d12d9573aaee

 

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From graeme.wall at icloud.com  Wed Apr 25 03:20:48 2018
From: graeme.wall at icloud.com (Graeme Wall)
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2018 09:20:48 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Birmingham celebrates etc
In-Reply-To: <000301d3dc68$a296aed0$e7c40c70$@gmail.com>
References: <12cf6a28-b564-46e3-898e-085db2cb83ab@me.com>
	<b4c21431-4eee-4071-bc63-256bf5e58afc@me.com>
	<CAE6tP4Aymb5-dL4SZp0ge5Sq==80BMamob0FdydMtvbQ-RPzKA@mail.gmail.com>
	<DB7P192MB031316E99FBDFC9C865916E3A7B00@DB7P192MB0313.EURP192.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
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What happened to the bunch of flowers?
? 
Graeme Wall





> On 25 Apr 2018, at 08:40, Bill Jenkin via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> Here?s a bit more about that shot if you?re interested:
> https://everyaxis.com/superhuman-camerawork-a-6-minute-one-take-live-shot-d12d9573aaee
>  
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From bernie833 at gmail.com  Wed Apr 25 03:28:12 2018
From: bernie833 at gmail.com (Bernard Newnham)
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2018 09:28:12 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Birmingham celebrates etc
In-Reply-To: <000301d3dc68$a296aed0$e7c40c70$@gmail.com>
References: <12cf6a28-b564-46e3-898e-085db2cb83ab@me.com>
	<b4c21431-4eee-4071-bc63-256bf5e58afc@me.com>
	<CAE6tP4Aymb5-dL4SZp0ge5Sq==80BMamob0FdydMtvbQ-RPzKA@mail.gmail.com>
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Just having read the article - can any currently active camera person 
tell us why they had to have a "heavy and long" lens? Given that 
everything was on a wide angle, surely something a bit smaller and 
lighter would have helped. Mind you - I haven't operated acamera that 
cost more than ?5000 for a lot of years now.? Still very impressive stuff.

B



On 25/04/2018 08:40, Bill Jenkin via Tech1 wrote:
>
> Here?s a bit more about that shot if you?re interested:
> https://everyaxis.com/superhuman-camerawork-a-6-minute-one-take-live-shot-d12d9573aaee
>
> Bill J
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From bernie833 at gmail.com  Wed Apr 25 03:29:52 2018
From: bernie833 at gmail.com (Bernard Newnham)
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2018 09:29:52 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Birmingham celebrates etc
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Just having read the article - can any currently active camera person 
tell us why they had to have a "heavy and long" lens? Given that 
everything was on a wide angle, surely something a bit smaller and 
lighter would have helped. Mind you - I haven't operated acamera that 
cost more than ?5000 for a lot of years now.? Still very impressive stuff.

B



On 25/04/2018 08:40, Bill Jenkin via Tech1 wrote:
>
> Here?s a bit more about that shot if you?re interested:
> https://everyaxis.com/superhuman-camerawork-a-6-minute-one-take-live-shot-d12d9573aaee
>
> Bill J
>
>
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From graeme.wall at icloud.com  Wed Apr 25 03:37:01 2018
From: graeme.wall at icloud.com (Graeme Wall)
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2018 09:37:01 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Birmingham celebrates etc
In-Reply-To: <8dba0cbf-4500-7e6a-673f-fcf144cdffdc@ntlworld.com>
References: <12cf6a28-b564-46e3-898e-085db2cb83ab@me.com>
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Looking at the picture it doesn?t appear to be that big a lens, try a Canon 100:1 then you are talking big :-)
? 
Graeme Wall





> On 25 Apr 2018, at 09:28, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> Just having read the article - can any currently active camera person tell us why they had to have a "heavy and long" lens? Given that everything was on a wide angle, surely something a bit smaller and lighter would have helped.  Mind you - I haven't operated a camera that cost more than ?5000 for a lot of years now.  Still very impressive stuff.
> 
> B
> 
> 
> 
> On 25/04/2018 08:40, Bill Jenkin via Tech1 wrote:
>> Here?s a bit more about that shot if you?re interested:
>> https://everyaxis.com/superhuman-camerawork-a-6-minute-one-take-live-shot-d12d9573aaee
>>  
>> Bill J
>> 
>> 
> 
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From geoffreyhawkes at btinternet.com  Wed Apr 25 05:46:29 2018
From: geoffreyhawkes at btinternet.com (Geoffrey Hawkes)
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2018 11:46:29 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Nusance phone calls
Message-ID: <E2B3FFA4-2674-48D1-B750-9B3859333D4D@btinternet.com>

I've just had a call from a "very helpful", chirpy lady who for once sounded like she was in the UK asking if I knew about the Government's incentive scheme to reduce energy bills for home owners.
I've had similar ones before though not for a long time and not being in the mood to humour her, ended the call abruptly.
I assume it's another dark pit for the unwary and I'm wondering if any of you know what's at the bottom of it, or if by some freak chance it is worth looking into,

Geoff Hawkes


From patheigham at amps.net  Wed Apr 25 06:20:56 2018
From: patheigham at amps.net (patrickheigham)
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2018 12:20:56 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Nuisance phone calls
In-Reply-To: <E2B3FFA4-2674-48D1-B750-9B3859333D4D@btinternet.com>
References: <E2B3FFA4-2674-48D1-B750-9B3859333D4D@btinternet.com>
Message-ID: <09FC0D453A6C4C2883D43C4BFC784BAF@PATRICKSONY>

I get E-mail newsletters from Martin's Money Tips
(he's currently sueing Facebook for misusing his
name and image for advertising).
I'll look back and see if he mentions this scheme.

Regarding undefined calls - if caller display shows
'international' or 'withheld', I let the answer machine pick up.
The call gets dropped immediately.
If they are genuine friends or companies, then they will
leave a message.

Best
Pat

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Geoffrey Hawkes via Tech1" <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
To: <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2018 11:46 AM
Subject: [Tech1] Nusance phone calls


> I've just had a call from a "very helpful", chirpy lady who for once 
> sounded like she was in the UK asking if I knew about the Government's 
> incentive scheme to reduce energy bills for home owners.
> I've had similar ones before though not for a long time and not being in 
> the mood to humour her, ended the call abruptly.
> I assume it's another dark pit for the unwary and I'm wondering if any of 
> you know what's at the bottom of it, or if by some freak chance it is 
> worth looking into,
>
> Geoff Hawkes


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From waresound at msn.com  Wed Apr 25 06:53:32 2018
From: waresound at msn.com (Nick Ware)
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2018 11:53:32 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Nusance phone calls
In-Reply-To: <E2B3FFA4-2674-48D1-B750-9B3859333D4D@btinternet.com>
References: <E2B3FFA4-2674-48D1-B750-9B3859333D4D@btinternet.com>
Message-ID: <DB7P192MB03138CF91162A1363E8BA757A78F0@DB7P192MB0313.EURP192.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>

It?s a well known scam. Trying to sell you loft insulation, double glazing, wall cavity insulation, or maybe con you into switching energy supplier.
Say nothing. Just put the phone down.
Cheers,
Nick.

Sent from my iPad

On 25 Apr 2018, at 11:47, Geoffrey Hawkes via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk<mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>> wrote:

I've just had a call from a "very helpful", chirpy lady who for once sounded like she was in the UK asking if I knew about the Government's incentive scheme to reduce energy bills for home owners.
I've had similar ones before though not for a long time and not being in the mood to humour her, ended the call abruptly.
I assume it's another dark pit for the unwary and I'm wondering if any of you know what's at the bottom of it, or if by some freak chance it is worth looking into,

Geoff Hawkes

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From bernie833 at gmail.com  Wed Apr 25 08:16:55 2018
From: bernie833 at gmail.com (Bernard Newnham)
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2018 14:16:55 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Birmingham celebrates etc
In-Reply-To: <28565296-4591-48A2-B27C-69605C774BD2@icloud.com>
References: <12cf6a28-b564-46e3-898e-085db2cb83ab@me.com>
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Message-ID: <af716d0e-d589-85dc-cace-1be1cc8d780e@ntlworld.com>

Yes, I suppose it depends on where you start. It's a long, long time 
since I operated a Marconi mk7 or an EMI 203 with an Angenieux zoom on 
the front . These days, and since the Sony VX1000, something like the 
Canon XF305 is more my current style.

cheers

B


On 25/04/2018 09:37, Graeme Wall wrote:
> Looking at the picture it doesn?t appear to be that big a lens, try a Canon 100:1 then you are talking big :-)
> ?
> Graeme Wall
>
>
>
>
>
>> On 25 Apr 2018, at 09:28, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>> Just having read the article - can any currently active camera person tell us why they had to have a "heavy and long" lens? Given that everything was on a wide angle, surely something a bit smaller and lighter would have helped.  Mind you - I haven't operated a camera that cost more than ?5000 for a lot of years now.  Still very impressive stuff.
>>
>> B
>>
>>
>>
>> On 25/04/2018 08:40, Bill Jenkin via Tech1 wrote:
>>> Here?s a bit more about that shot if you?re interested:
>>> https://everyaxis.com/superhuman-camerawork-a-6-minute-one-take-live-shot-d12d9573aaee
>>>   
>>> Bill J
>>>
>>>
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From dave at davesound.co.uk  Wed Apr 25 08:33:29 2018
From: dave at davesound.co.uk (Dave Plowman)
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2018 14:33:29 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Bit of a bank rant.
Message-ID: <56ee4cd82cdave@davesound.co.uk>

Decided to change my car. For a another used one, not new. Had been
looking for some time and eventually found the exact one for me. Had most
of the money needed (after PX of the old one) in my current account.
Likely just enough after this month's pension etc comes in. But 'one'
doesn't want to be totally skint as regards ready funds.

My current account has been in credit for as long as I can remember. And
with current low interest rates, often a pretty healthy balance.

All I wanted was a ?2500 overdraft facility. Didn't want to pay interest
on money I don't need so not a personal loan over a fixed period.

My online banking page appeared to offer just this. But on applying, seems
not so. Up to 25 grand as a personal loan, OK.  

Fairy nuff, you'd say. But I have a second current account I set up and
use as the treasurer of a small club. Income to that is about 40 quid a
week and expenditure just the club premises rent, etc. Balance a couple of
hundred quid.  That offered me a 2250 overdraft online.

Thinking there was some mistake, I PM'd my bank via their secure message
service. And got a very condescending reply saying that if I managed my
finances carefully over the next 6 months or so they might review things. 

I'm thinking a detailed letter to their CEO is in order. If only to vent
my spleen. ;-) 

Not wanting to loose the car having paid a deposit and made all the
arrangements, I got a personal loan from my bank online. So the needed
money is in my account now. Which cynical me thinks is what they wanted. 

I'd guess the reasons can be explained. Retired with a paid off mortgage
and no debts. So no recent credit rating. Even although a millionaire on
paper due to silly London property prices.

-- 
*If horrific means to make horrible, does terrific mean to make terrible?

    Dave Plowman     dave at davesound.co.uk     London SW 12
    


From dave.mdv at btinternet.com  Wed Apr 25 10:49:56 2018
From: dave.mdv at btinternet.com (dave.mdv)
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2018 16:49:56 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Nusance phone calls
In-Reply-To: <DB7P192MB03138CF91162A1363E8BA757A78F0@DB7P192MB0313.EURP192.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
References: <E2B3FFA4-2674-48D1-B750-9B3859333D4D@btinternet.com>
	<DB7P192MB03138CF91162A1363E8BA757A78F0@DB7P192MB0313.EURP192.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
Message-ID: <cc24f604-21d4-9a48-7d23-b5ec2207b1cd@btinternet.com>

I get the same one every couple of weeks plus a regular recorded message 
about the windows scrappage scheme. Cheers, Dave. PS. No it's not? from 
a Macbook salesman!


On 25/04/2018 12:53, Nick Ware via Tech1 wrote:
> It?s a well known scam. Trying to sell you loft insulation, double 
> glazing, wall cavity insulation, or maybe con you into switching 
> energy supplier.
> Say nothing. Just put the phone down.
> Cheers,
> Nick.
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On 25 Apr 2018, at 11:47, Geoffrey Hawkes via Tech1 
> <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk <mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>> wrote:
>
>> I've just had a call from a "very helpful", chirpy lady who for once 
>> sounded like she was in the UK asking if I knew about the 
>> Government's incentive scheme to reduce energy bills for home owners.
>> I've had similar ones before though not for a long time and not being 
>> in the mood to humour her, ended the call abruptly.
>> I assume it's another dark pit for the unwary and I'm wondering if 
>> any of you know what's at the bottom of it, or if by some freak 
>> chance it is worth looking into,
>>
>> Geoff Hawkes
>>
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From mibridge at mac.com  Wed Apr 25 11:07:35 2018
From: mibridge at mac.com (Mike Giles)
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2018 17:07:35 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Nusance phone calls
In-Reply-To: <cc24f604-21d4-9a48-7d23-b5ec2207b1cd@btinternet.com>
References: <E2B3FFA4-2674-48D1-B750-9B3859333D4D@btinternet.com>
	<DB7P192MB03138CF91162A1363E8BA757A78F0@DB7P192MB0313.EURP192.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
	<cc24f604-21d4-9a48-7d23-b5ec2207b1cd@btinternet.com>
Message-ID: <AED1A1AB-49FB-4016-A9E0-0043E1A600E5@mac.com>

I get more scam calls to the mobile than the house phone, but we have had two or three on the landline recently, purporting to be Microsoft, looking into a problem with my computer. I was slightly taken aback yesterday when the guy seemed quite upset when I shouted at him!

Mike G

> On 25 Apr 2018, at 16:49, dave.mdv via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> I get the same one every couple of weeks plus a regular recorded message about the windows scrappage scheme. Cheers, Dave. PS. No it's not  from a Macbook salesman!
> 
> On 25/04/2018 12:53, Nick Ware via Tech1 wrote:
>> It?s a well known scam. Trying to sell you loft insulation, double glazing, wall cavity insulation, or maybe con you into switching energy supplier.
>> Say nothing. Just put the phone down.
>> Cheers,
>> Nick.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>> On 25 Apr 2018, at 11:47, Geoffrey Hawkes via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk <mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>> wrote:
>> 
>>> I've just had a call from a "very helpful", chirpy lady who for once sounded like she was in the UK asking if I knew about the Government's incentive scheme to reduce energy bills for home owners.
>>> I've had similar ones before though not for a long time and not being in the mood to humour her, ended the call abruptly.
>>> I assume it's another dark pit for the unwary and I'm wondering if any of you know what's at the bottom of it, or if by some freak chance it is worth looking into,
>>> 
>>> Geoff Hawkes
>>> 
>>> -- 
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>>> http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk <http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk>
>> 
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From john at epi-centre.com  Wed Apr 25 14:06:16 2018
From: john at epi-centre.com (John Henshall)
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2018 20:06:16 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] GTC Lighting Workshop 28 April 2018
Message-ID: <F293CBBA-2AB9-4034-A302-4C0CF4D55131@epi-centre.com>

See memories of our wonderful alma mater ? Ian Perry swinging the lead! ? TC1 before it even opened! ? Ron Green!  ? Judith Chalmers! ? the Peregrine!
Hope to see some of you there on Saturday.

http://www.gtc.org.uk/calendar/gtc-workshops/gtc-workshop-theres-more-than-one-way-to-light.aspx

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From jccglass at gmail.com  Wed Apr 25 17:18:29 2018
From: jccglass at gmail.com (Chris on gmail)
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2018 23:18:29 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Nusance phone calls
References: <E2B3FFA4-2674-48D1-B750-9B3859333D4D@btinternet.com>
	<DB7P192MB03138CF91162A1363E8BA757A78F0@DB7P192MB0313.EURP192.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
Message-ID: <1A2EA2EC126E4A198A17D6B806392F82@dell9100>

my favourite responce it  to say 
sorry can you hold a bit there is some one at my front door
then leave them to dangle

chris


From dave.mdv at btinternet.com  Wed Apr 25 17:38:54 2018
From: dave.mdv at btinternet.com (dave.mdv)
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2018 23:38:54 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Nuisance phone calls from 'Windows Service Centre'
In-Reply-To: <1A2EA2EC126E4A198A17D6B806392F82@dell9100>
References: <E2B3FFA4-2674-48D1-B750-9B3859333D4D@btinternet.com>
	<DB7P192MB03138CF91162A1363E8BA757A78F0@DB7P192MB0313.EURP192.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
	<1A2EA2EC126E4A198A17D6B806392F82@dell9100>
Message-ID: <e542f242-5f85-b9e6-df34-5d740929ea5c@btinternet.com>

A friend of mine used to keep them occupied for hours by saying that the 
computer is in another room from the telephone and every step took ages 
to carry out. Nothing ever 'worked' and at the very end of it all he 
admitted that his computer wasn't? a Windows one but a Mackintosh! 
Cheers, Dave


On 25/04/2018 23:18, Chris on gmail via Tech1 wrote:
> my favourite responce it? to say sorry can you hold a bit there is 
> some one at my front door
> then leave them to dangle
>
> chris
>



From alex.thomas1 at talktalk.net  Wed Apr 25 18:06:01 2018
From: alex.thomas1 at talktalk.net (Alex Thomas)
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2018 00:06:01 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] An American way to deal with nuisance calls
Message-ID: <000001d3dce9$fea67990$fbf36cb0$@thomas1@talktalk.net>

The prankster, Tom Mabe has an interesting way to deal with nuisance calls.

 

It runs for about 3'30"

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvnMINVEF9M 

 

Alex Thomas. 

 

 

 

 

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From saranewman at hotmail.com  Thu Apr 26 02:37:49 2018
From: saranewman at hotmail.com (Sara Newman)
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2018 07:37:49 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Nusance phone calls
In-Reply-To: <1A2EA2EC126E4A198A17D6B806392F82@dell9100>
References: <E2B3FFA4-2674-48D1-B750-9B3859333D4D@btinternet.com>
	<DB7P192MB03138CF91162A1363E8BA757A78F0@DB7P192MB0313.EURP192.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
	<1A2EA2EC126E4A198A17D6B806392F82@dell9100>
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Hi, 

Have you seen this   www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dceyy0cX6J4   sorry its 7min plus but I really enjoy his (James Veitch ) performances. Discovered him when the grandchildren accumulated a rather large number of yellow plastic ducks in our bathroom and that routine is worth enjoying too. 

Sara

> On 25 Apr 2018, at 23:18, Chris on gmail via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> my favourite responce it  to say sorry can you hold a bit there is some one at my front door
> then leave them to dangle
> 
> chris
> 
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From patheigham at amps.net  Thu Apr 26 04:35:08 2018
From: patheigham at amps.net (patrickheigham)
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2018 10:35:08 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Nuisance phone calls
In-Reply-To: <CWLP265MB0689D928E3A5E581089B61D0D08E0@CWLP265MB0689.GBRP265.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
References: <E2B3FFA4-2674-48D1-B750-9B3859333D4D@btinternet.com><DB7P192MB03138CF91162A1363E8BA757A78F0@DB7P192MB0313.EURP192.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM><1A2EA2EC126E4A198A17D6B806392F82@dell9100>
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Message-ID: <C3A65E99C47B410C838BA240C76E09FD@PATRICKSONY>

I've posted this before, but if you haven't heard it -
enjoy!
(However, impersonating a Police Officer is illegal!)

Pat

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Sara Newman via Tech1" <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
To: "Chris on gmail" <jccglass at gmail.com>
Cc: <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 8:37 AM
Subject: Re: [Tech1] Nuisance phone calls


> Hi,
>
> Have you seen this   www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dceyy0cX6J4   sorry its 7min 
> plus but I really enjoy his (James Veitch ) performances. Discovered him 
> when the grandchildren accumulated a rather large number of yellow plastic 
> ducks in our bathroom and that routine is worth enjoying too.
>
> Sara


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From waresound at msn.com  Thu Apr 26 06:02:48 2018
From: waresound at msn.com (Nick Ware)
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2018 11:02:48 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Nuisance phone calls
Message-ID: <DB7P192MB0313F31DD679644B1714B67DA78E0@DB7P192MB0313.EURP192.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>

Here?s a perspective on nuisance phone calls that you might not have thought of:
About fifteen years ago, my younger son, who sadly, wasn?t living with me and my present wife at the time, got into the wrong company and ended up heavily addicted to whatever class A drugs he could get hold of. He was at the absolute depths of hopelessness. He went through detox and rehab several times, at crippling cost to us, but against all odds, he eventually came through it with a predicted 20% chance of staying ?clean?. Still in a very precarious state of health, he got a job in a call centre.

Call centre employment was fiercely competitive, with sales targets that had to be met, and cash penalties or the sack if you didn?t. As it happens, he has the gift of the gab, and did well, selling all of the things you know about. He was one of countless others in the same situation as himself. Without doubt, that call centre saved his life. He had friends there who haven?t survived.

It?s because of those targets and penalties that I suggest to you: don?t try and be a smart-ass wasting the caller?s time. He/she almost certainly doesn?t like it any more than you do. Just hang up and let them call the next number on the task list.

As it turned out, it was a turning point for him, and now, ten years on, he?s doing well, married to a lawyer; has his own landscape gardening business, and now has two gorgeous little boys of his own.

Now before you go, can I interest you in some 45% discount double-glazing?

Regards to all,
Nick.
Sent from my iPad

On 26 Apr 2018, at 10:36, patrickheigham via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk<mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>> wrote:

I've posted this before, but if you haven't heard it -
enjoy!
(However, impersonating a Police Officer is illegal!)

Pat

----- Original Message -----
From: "Sara Newman via Tech1" <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk<mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>>
To: "Chris on gmail" <jccglass at gmail.com<mailto:jccglass at gmail.com>>
Cc: <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk<mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>>
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 8:37 AM
Subject: Re: [Tech1] Nuisance phone calls


Hi,

Have you seen this   www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dceyy0cX6J4<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dceyy0cX6J4>   sorry its 7min
plus but I really enjoy his (James Veitch ) performances. Discovered him
when the grandchildren accumulated a rather large number of yellow plastic
ducks in our bathroom and that routine is worth enjoying too.

Sara


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From ian.hillson at gmail.com  Thu Apr 26 06:38:19 2018
From: ian.hillson at gmail.com (Ian H)
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2018 12:38:19 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] GTC Lighting Workshop 28 April 2018
In-Reply-To: <F293CBBA-2AB9-4034-A302-4C0CF4D55131@epi-centre.com>
References: <F293CBBA-2AB9-4034-A302-4C0CF4D55131@epi-centre.com>
Message-ID: <CAO37+kbDY7OaRvauZqjgE88zYh7CoKO4u-9NCOwGVywkg76KrQ@mail.gmail.com>

Book here:  https://gtc-stld-lighting.eventbrite.co.uk
<https://gtc.us8.list-manage.com/track/click?u=c72d1a14d5839d4e627dd339d&id=87f075390d&e=f3be90cb56>

On Wed, Apr 25, 2018 at 8:06 PM, John Henshall via Tech1 <
tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:

> See memories of our wonderful *alma mater* ? Ian Perry swinging the lead!
> ? TC1 before it even opened! ? Ron Green!  ? Judith Chalmers! ? the
> Peregrine!
> Hope to see some of you there on Saturday.
>
> http://www.gtc.org.uk/calendar/gtc-workshops/gtc-
> workshop-theres-more-than-one-way-to-light.aspx
>
>
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From dave at davesound.co.uk  Thu Apr 26 07:50:19 2018
From: dave at davesound.co.uk (Dave Plowman)
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2018 13:50:19 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Nuisance phone calls
In-Reply-To: <DB7P192MB0313F31DD679644B1714B67DA78E0@DB7P192MB0313.EURP192.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
References: <DB7P192MB0313F31DD679644B1714B67DA78E0@DB7P192MB0313.EURP192.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
Message-ID: <56eeccb98fdave@davesound.co.uk>

In article
<DB7P192MB0313F31DD679644B1714B67DA78E0 at DB7P192MB0313.EURP192.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>,
   Nick Ware via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> Call centre employment was fiercely competitive, with sales targets that
> had to be met, and cash penalties or the sack if you didn?t. As it
> happens, he has the gift of the gab, and did well, selling all of the
> things you know about. He was one of countless others in the same
> situation as himself. Without doubt, that call centre saved his life. He
> had friends there who haven?t survived.

Interesting. High stress jobs generally go against the advice for addicts
in recovery, as there is the possibility of wanting a 'reward' for having
survived the day. But it obviously worked for him, so 'rules' are as ever
only a guide.

-- 
*The problem with the world is that everyone is a few drinks behind *

    Dave Plowman     dave at davesound.co.uk     London SW 12
    


From graeme.wall at icloud.com  Thu Apr 26 08:08:34 2018
From: graeme.wall at icloud.com (Graeme Wall)
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2018 14:08:34 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Nuisance phone calls
In-Reply-To: <56eeccb98fdave@davesound.co.uk>
References: <DB7P192MB0313F31DD679644B1714B67DA78E0@DB7P192MB0313.EURP192.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
	<56eeccb98fdave@davesound.co.uk>
Message-ID: <81FAAFE5-F52D-4BCC-A2C4-5A756638F1FA@icloud.com>

Coincidentally I?ve just has a charming Indian lady trying to convince me she was BT checking my broadband while attempting the old computer scam. When I suggested she was less than honest she agreed with me and hung up.  All very polite.
? 
Graeme Wall





> On 26 Apr 2018, at 13:50, Dave Plowman via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> In article
> <DB7P192MB0313F31DD679644B1714B67DA78E0 at DB7P192MB0313.EURP192.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>,
>   Nick Ware via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
>> Call centre employment was fiercely competitive, with sales targets that
>> had to be met, and cash penalties or the sack if you didn?t. As it
>> happens, he has the gift of the gab, and did well, selling all of the
>> things you know about. He was one of countless others in the same
>> situation as himself. Without doubt, that call centre saved his life. He
>> had friends there who haven?t survived.
> 
> Interesting. High stress jobs generally go against the advice for addicts
> in recovery, as there is the possibility of wanting a 'reward' for having
> survived the day. But it obviously worked for him, so 'rules' are as ever
> only a guide.
> 
> -- 
> *The problem with the world is that everyone is a few drinks behind *
> 
>    Dave Plowman     dave at davesound.co.uk     London SW 12
> 
> 
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From dave at davesound.co.uk  Thu Apr 26 08:30:36 2018
From: dave at davesound.co.uk (Dave Plowman)
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2018 14:30:36 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Nuisance phone calls
In-Reply-To: <81FAAFE5-F52D-4BCC-A2C4-5A756638F1FA@icloud.com>
References: <DB7P192MB0313F31DD679644B1714B67DA78E0@DB7P192MB0313.EURP192.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
	<56eeccb98fdave@davesound.co.uk>
	<81FAAFE5-F52D-4BCC-A2C4-5A756638F1FA@icloud.com>
Message-ID: <56eed06962dave@davesound.co.uk>

In article <81FAAFE5-F52D-4BCC-A2C4-5A756638F1FA at icloud.com>,
   Graeme Wall <graeme.wall at icloud.com> wrote:
> Coincidentally I?ve just has a charming Indian lady trying to convince
> me she was BT checking my broadband while attempting the old computer
> scam. When I suggested she was less than honest she agreed with me and
> hung up.  All very polite.

On the subject of call centres, just tried to talk to my bank. Dreadful
digital phone line (from my landline) that sounded about 4 bits at best.
;-) And a lady with a very pronounced Filipino (I think) accent which
didn't travel well over that phone line. To the point where I had to
terminate the call.

Why don't they have an old farts option on the menu for the likes of me?

-- 
*If vegetable oil comes from vegetables, where does baby oil come from? *

    Dave Plowman     dave at davesound.co.uk     London SW 12
    


From dave.mdv at btinternet.com  Thu Apr 26 14:34:47 2018
From: dave.mdv at btinternet.com (dave.mdv)
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2018 20:34:47 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] NHS
Message-ID: <26b18de9-777b-05c6-538f-a8266e8b3c0b@btinternet.com>

Here's a new one for you! I have been on a repeat prescription for 
painkillers (Ibuprofen 400 mg.) for umpteen years. I have just tried to 
get the next supply and was told by my local pharmacy that the local 
surgery (recently taken over by a 'group') won't renew the prescription 
as the pills are available 'over the counter' so I can buy them myself 
!!!!!!!. Meanwhile, multi-millionaire Jeremy Hunt has saved ?100,000 
buying 7 luxury flats at the seaside to make even more money. 'Never get 
old and never get ill' is my mantra for all of us of a certain age! 
Cheers, Dave



From davidvbrunt at gmail.com  Thu Apr 26 15:10:06 2018
From: davidvbrunt at gmail.com (David Brunt)
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2018 21:10:06 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] NHS
In-Reply-To: <26b18de9-777b-05c6-538f-a8266e8b3c0b@btinternet.com>
References: <26b18de9-777b-05c6-538f-a8266e8b3c0b@btinternet.com>
Message-ID: <ED9E6AA6E30C4DD1BA15E9D80755EE67@AdminPC>

It'll probably save you money.  It's recommended that if an item can be 
bought cheaper than the cost of the prescription then people can get them at 
pharmacies direct.



-----Original Message----- 
From: dave.mdv via Tech1
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 8:34 PM
To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
Subject: [Tech1] NHS

Here's a new one for you! I have been on a repeat prescription for
painkillers (Ibuprofen 400 mg.) for umpteen years. I have just tried to
get the next supply and was told by my local pharmacy that the local
surgery (recently taken over by a 'group') won't renew the prescription
as the pills are available 'over the counter' so I can buy them myself
!!!!!!!. Meanwhile, multi-millionaire Jeremy Hunt has saved ?100,000
buying 7 luxury flats at the seaside to make even more money. 'Never get
old and never get ill' is my mantra for all of us of a certain age!
Cheers, Dave


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From peter.neill at icloud.com  Thu Apr 26 15:16:06 2018
From: peter.neill at icloud.com (Peter Neill)
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2018 21:16:06 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] NHS
In-Reply-To: <ED9E6AA6E30C4DD1BA15E9D80755EE67@AdminPC>
References: <26b18de9-777b-05c6-538f-a8266e8b3c0b@btinternet.com>
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But David, you forget that us old codgers get free prescriptions!





> On 26 Apr 2018, at 21:10, David Brunt via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> It'll probably save you money.  It's recommended that if an item can be bought cheaper than the cost of the prescription then people can get them at pharmacies direct.
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message----- From: dave.mdv via Tech1
> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 8:34 PM
> To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
> Subject: [Tech1] NHS
> 
> Here's a new one for you! I have been on a repeat prescription for
> painkillers (Ibuprofen 400 mg.) for umpteen years. I have just tried to
> get the next supply and was told by my local pharmacy that the local
> surgery (recently taken over by a 'group') won't renew the prescription
> as the pills are available 'over the counter' so I can buy them myself
> !!!!!!!. Meanwhile, multi-millionaire Jeremy Hunt has saved ?100,000
> buying 7 luxury flats at the seaside to make even more money. 'Never get
> old and never get ill' is my mantra for all of us of a certain age!
> Cheers, Dave
> 
> 
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From dave.mdv at btinternet.com  Thu Apr 26 15:31:07 2018
From: dave.mdv at btinternet.com (dave.mdv)
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2018 21:31:07 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] NHS
In-Reply-To: <85A4F7BB-E820-412A-A2DF-BAD30970E96B@icloud.com>
References: <26b18de9-777b-05c6-538f-a8266e8b3c0b@btinternet.com>
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Yes, I know, Peter, but if my surgery won't give me a prescription what 
can I do? Cheers, Dave


On 26/04/2018 21:16, Peter Neill via Tech1 wrote:
> But David, you forget that us old codgers get free prescriptions!
>
>
>
>
>
>> On 26 Apr 2018, at 21:10, David Brunt via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk 
>> <mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>> wrote:
>>
>> It'll probably save you money. ?It's recommended that if an item can 
>> be bought cheaper than the cost of the prescription then people can 
>> get them at pharmacies direct.
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message----- From: dave.mdv via Tech1
>> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 8:34 PM
>> To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk <mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
>> Subject: [Tech1] NHS
>>
>> Here's a new one for you! I have been on a repeat prescription for
>> painkillers (Ibuprofen 400 mg.) for umpteen years. I have just tried to
>> get the next supply and was told by my local pharmacy that the local
>> surgery (recently taken over by a 'group') won't renew the prescription
>> as the pills are available 'over the counter' so I can buy them myself
>> !!!!!!!. Meanwhile, multi-millionaire Jeremy Hunt has saved ?100,000
>> buying 7 luxury flats at the seaside to make even more money. 'Never get
>> old and never get ill' is my mantra for all of us of a certain age!
>> Cheers, Dave
>>
>>
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From davidvbrunt at gmail.com  Thu Apr 26 15:58:00 2018
From: davidvbrunt at gmail.com (David Brunt)
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2018 21:58:00 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] NHS
In-Reply-To: <85A4F7BB-E820-412A-A2DF-BAD30970E96B@icloud.com>
References: <26b18de9-777b-05c6-538f-a8266e8b3c0b@btinternet.com><ED9E6AA6E30C4DD1BA15E9D80755EE67@AdminPC>
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Ah, I knew there was something I was forgetting.

Being in Wales where everyone gets them free...



From: Peter Neill via Tech1 
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 9:16 PM
To: Tech Ops List 
Subject: Re: [Tech1] NHS

But David, you forget that us old codgers get free prescriptions!






  On 26 Apr 2018, at 21:10, David Brunt via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:

  It'll probably save you money.  It's recommended that if an item can be bought cheaper than the cost of the prescription then people can get them at pharmacies direct.



  -----Original Message----- From: dave.mdv via Tech1
  Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 8:34 PM
  To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
  Subject: [Tech1] NHS

  Here's a new one for you! I have been on a repeat prescription for
  painkillers (Ibuprofen 400 mg.) for umpteen years. I have just tried to
  get the next supply and was told by my local pharmacy that the local
  surgery (recently taken over by a 'group') won't renew the prescription
  as the pills are available 'over the counter' so I can buy them myself
  !!!!!!!. Meanwhile, multi-millionaire Jeremy Hunt has saved ?100,000
  buying 7 luxury flats at the seaside to make even more money. 'Never get
  old and never get ill' is my mantra for all of us of a certain age!
  Cheers, Dave


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From alawrance1 at me.com  Thu Apr 26 15:58:46 2018
From: alawrance1 at me.com (Alasdair Lawrance)
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2018 21:58:46 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] NHS
In-Reply-To: <ED9E6AA6E30C4DD1BA15E9D80755EE67@AdminPC>
References: <26b18de9-777b-05c6-538f-a8266e8b3c0b@btinternet.com>
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I'm no expert, but I'm pretty certain being on Ibuprofen for 'umpteen years' can't be doing your liver much good?

Alasdair Lawrance

Sent from my iPad2

> On 26 Apr 2018, at 21:10, David Brunt via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> It'll probably save you money.  It's recommended that if an item can be bought cheaper than the cost of the prescription then people can get them at pharmacies direct.
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message----- From: dave.mdv via Tech1
> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 8:34 PM
> To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
> Subject: [Tech1] NHS
> 
> Here's a new one for you! I have been on a repeat prescription for
> painkillers (Ibuprofen 400 mg.) for umpteen years. I have just tried to
> get the next supply and was told by my local pharmacy that the local
> surgery (recently taken over by a 'group') won't renew the prescription
> as the pills are available 'over the counter' so I can buy them myself
> !!!!!!!. Meanwhile, multi-millionaire Jeremy Hunt has saved ?100,000
> buying 7 luxury flats at the seaside to make even more money. 'Never get
> old and never get ill' is my mantra for all of us of a certain age!
> Cheers, Dave
> 
> 
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From dave.mdv at btinternet.com  Thu Apr 26 16:22:33 2018
From: dave.mdv at btinternet.com (dave.mdv)
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2018 22:22:33 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] NHS
In-Reply-To: <1F2A68DB-A957-4D7A-BEC2-9E03C0D47D33@me.com>
References: <26b18de9-777b-05c6-538f-a8266e8b3c0b@btinternet.com>
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Quite, but if you are in pain and can't stand for long or walk very far 
what else can you do? I'm not in the market for new knees as they are 
very hit-and -miss compared to hips which have much better outcomes. At 
nearly 80 I'm certainly not going for surgery, with MRSA on the menu, 
life is already too short! Cheers, Dave


On 26/04/2018 21:58, Alasdair Lawrance wrote:
> I'm no expert, but I'm pretty certain being on Ibuprofen for 'umpteen years' can't be doing your liver much good?
>
> Alasdair Lawrance
>
> Sent from my iPad2
>
>> On 26 Apr 2018, at 21:10, David Brunt via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>> It'll probably save you money.  It's recommended that if an item can be bought cheaper than the cost of the prescription then people can get them at pharmacies direct.
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message----- From: dave.mdv via Tech1
>> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 8:34 PM
>> To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
>> Subject: [Tech1] NHS
>>
>> Here's a new one for you! I have been on a repeat prescription for
>> painkillers (Ibuprofen 400 mg.) for umpteen years. I have just tried to
>> get the next supply and was told by my local pharmacy that the local
>> surgery (recently taken over by a 'group') won't renew the prescription
>> as the pills are available 'over the counter' so I can buy them myself
>> !!!!!!!. Meanwhile, multi-millionaire Jeremy Hunt has saved ?100,000
>> buying 7 luxury flats at the seaside to make even more money. 'Never get
>> old and never get ill' is my mantra for all of us of a certain age!
>> Cheers, Dave
>>
>>
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From dave.mdv at btinternet.com  Thu Apr 26 16:23:53 2018
From: dave.mdv at btinternet.com (dave.mdv)
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2018 22:23:53 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] NHS
In-Reply-To: <1F2A68DB-A957-4D7A-BEC2-9E03C0D47D33@me.com>
References: <26b18de9-777b-05c6-538f-a8266e8b3c0b@btinternet.com>
	<ED9E6AA6E30C4DD1BA15E9D80755EE67@AdminPC>
	<1F2A68DB-A957-4D7A-BEC2-9E03C0D47D33@me.com>
Message-ID: <adb0b023-ad4f-77b3-3481-1e1e2a2c8dfe@btinternet.com>

PS. 18 years in OBs has sorted out my liver! Thanks for the thought! 
Cheers, Dave


On 26/04/2018 21:58, Alasdair Lawrance wrote:
> I'm no expert, but I'm pretty certain being on Ibuprofen for 'umpteen years' can't be doing your liver much good?
>
> Alasdair Lawrance
>
> Sent from my iPad2
>
>> On 26 Apr 2018, at 21:10, David Brunt via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>> It'll probably save you money.  It's recommended that if an item can be bought cheaper than the cost of the prescription then people can get them at pharmacies direct.
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message----- From: dave.mdv via Tech1
>> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 8:34 PM
>> To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
>> Subject: [Tech1] NHS
>>
>> Here's a new one for you! I have been on a repeat prescription for
>> painkillers (Ibuprofen 400 mg.) for umpteen years. I have just tried to
>> get the next supply and was told by my local pharmacy that the local
>> surgery (recently taken over by a 'group') won't renew the prescription
>> as the pills are available 'over the counter' so I can buy them myself
>> !!!!!!!. Meanwhile, multi-millionaire Jeremy Hunt has saved ?100,000
>> buying 7 luxury flats at the seaside to make even more money. 'Never get
>> old and never get ill' is my mantra for all of us of a certain age!
>> Cheers, Dave
>>
>>
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From peter.neill at icloud.com  Thu Apr 26 17:16:10 2018
From: peter.neill at icloud.com (Peter Neill)
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2018 23:16:10 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] NHS
In-Reply-To: <0664f11a-b844-16ec-3365-e1f6e4942632@btinternet.com>
References: <26b18de9-777b-05c6-538f-a8266e8b3c0b@btinternet.com>
	<ED9E6AA6E30C4DD1BA15E9D80755EE67@AdminPC>
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Message-ID: <476374CE-B5C6-45F6-9036-4F540E7F0932@icloud.com>

Dave - my reply was directed at David Brunt. 

Actually, I?d be surprised if Boots or a supermarket would sell you the quantity you need, say for a month, in one go. They will say that if you need that much you need to see a doctor!!

Peter

Sent from my iPhone. Apologies for typos and strange autocorrections. 

> On 26 Apr 2018, at 21:31, dave.mdv <dave.mdv at btinternet.com> wrote:
> 
> Yes, I know, Peter, but if my surgery won't give me a prescription what can I do? Cheers, Dave
> 
>> On 26/04/2018 21:16, Peter Neill via       Tech1 wrote:
>> But David, you forget that us old codgers get free prescriptions!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 26 Apr 2018, at 21:10, David Brunt via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
>>> 
>>> It'll probably save you money.  It's recommended that if an item can be bought cheaper than the cost of the prescription then people can get them at pharmacies direct.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message----- From: dave.mdv via Tech1
>>> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 8:34 PM
>>> To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
>>> Subject: [Tech1] NHS
>>> 
>>> Here's a new one for you! I have been on a repeat prescription for
>>> painkillers (Ibuprofen 400 mg.) for umpteen years. I have just tried to
>>> get the next supply and was told by my local pharmacy that the local
>>> surgery (recently taken over by a 'group') won't renew the prescription
>>> as the pills are available 'over the counter' so I can buy them myself
>>> !!!!!!!. Meanwhile, multi-millionaire Jeremy Hunt has saved ?100,000
>>> buying 7 luxury flats at the seaside to make even more money. 'Never get
>>> old and never get ill' is my mantra for all of us of a certain age!
>>> Cheers, Dave
>>> 
>>> 
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From ian.hillson at gmail.com  Fri Apr 27 05:11:51 2018
From: ian.hillson at gmail.com (Ian H)
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2018 11:11:51 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] NHS
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Just don't go to a supermarket for them, this statement from Sainsburys:

*Our policy states that sales are restricted to a maximum of 2 packets of a
combination of any paracetamol, aspirin or ibuprofen based products in a
single transaction. Sales are also restricted to customers aged 16 and
over. We have taken this decision as a responsible retailer and in line
with the advised guidance from the Medicines & Healthcare products
Regulatory Agency (MHRA). This policy balances the needs of our customers
for immediate pain relief and prevents stockpiling of medicines which may
lead to accidental or impulsive overdose. Further medication above 2 packs
has to sold under the supervision of a pharmacist.*

So that's all good,
I


On Thu, Apr 26, 2018 at 11:16 PM, Peter Neill via Tech1 <
tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:

> Dave - my reply was directed at David Brunt.
>
> Actually, I?d be surprised if Boots or a supermarket would sell you the
> quantity you need, say for a month, in one go. They will say that if you
> need that much you need to see a doctor!!
>
> Peter
>
> Sent from my iPhone. Apologies for typos and strange autocorrections.
>
> On 26 Apr 2018, at 21:31, dave.mdv <dave.mdv at btinternet.com> wrote:
>
> Yes, I know, Peter, but if my surgery won't give me a prescription what
> can I do? Cheers, Dave
>
> On 26/04/2018 21:16, Peter Neill via Tech1 wrote:
>
> But David, you forget that us old codgers get free prescriptions!
>
>
>
>
>
> On 26 Apr 2018, at 21:10, David Brunt via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
> It'll probably save you money.  It's recommended that if an item can be
> bought cheaper than the cost of the prescription then people can get them
> at pharmacies direct.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message----- From: dave.mdv via Tech1
> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 8:34 PM
> To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
> Subject: [Tech1] NHS
>
> Here's a new one for you! I have been on a repeat prescription for
> painkillers (Ibuprofen 400 mg.) for umpteen years. I have just tried to
> get the next supply and was told by my local pharmacy that the local
> surgery (recently taken over by a 'group') won't renew the prescription
> as the pills are available 'over the counter' so I can buy them myself
> !!!!!!!. Meanwhile, multi-millionaire Jeremy Hunt has saved ?100,000
> buying 7 luxury flats at the seaside to make even more money. 'Never get
> old and never get ill' is my mantra for all of us of a certain age!
> Cheers, Dave
>
>
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From david.jasma at sky.com  Fri Apr 27 06:08:23 2018
From: david.jasma at sky.com (Dave Buckley)
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2018 12:08:23 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] NHS over the counter pain relieving  pills
Message-ID: <001201d3de18$0f622cf0$2e2686d0$@sky.com>

Earlier this week I bought two packs of 16 Ibuprofen and two packs of 16
paracetamol from Boots and was asked if I had used them before. As it
happened they were for my wife who normally gets the Ibuprofen via a
prescription, but although she had added them to her normal list, the
surgery hadn't included them in the prescription which would have been large
packs, hence me having to get a smaller number over the counter. I don't
know if I would have been allowed to buy more than two packs though.

Years ago, Tesco put a restriction on how many packs you can buy in the same
way as Sainsburys, but I think that the company also stops mixing packs -
that is, if you try and buy paracetamol and Ibuprofen together you are
restricted to one pack of each. Now I can remember when you could buy jars
of 1000 aspirin!

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From mikej at bmanor.co.uk  Fri Apr 27 06:33:43 2018
From: mikej at bmanor.co.uk (Mike Jordan)
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2018 12:33:43 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] NHS over the counter pain relieving  pills
In-Reply-To: <001201d3de18$0f622cf0$2e2686d0$@sky.com>
References: <001201d3de18$0f622cf0$2e2686d0$@sky.com>
Message-ID: <0ED945364A9C4A0AB612B5B27DC02AAF@Gigabyte>

The best use for soluble Aspirin power tablets nowadays is for when trying 
to solder this nasty varnish insulated mini headphone and personal mic 
cables which are impossible to tin normally.
I was given the hint to simply take off the plastic outer bit, twist the 
cores, lay on an aspirin tablet and approach with a newly tinned soldering 
iron.
The heat melts the varnish and then the copper tins instantly and can be 
soldered to the 3.5mm jack or mini XLR.
Brilliant hint!!

Mike

-----Original Message----- 
From: Dave Buckley via Tech1
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2018 12:08 PM
To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
Subject: Re: [Tech1] NHS over the counter pain relieving pills

Now I can remember when you could buy jars
of 1000 aspirin!

Dave Buckley



From billjenkin67 at gmail.com  Fri Apr 27 06:52:27 2018
From: billjenkin67 at gmail.com (Bill Jenkin)
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2018 12:52:27 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] NHS over the counter pain relieving  pills
In-Reply-To: <001201d3de18$0f622cf0$2e2686d0$@sky.com>
References: <001201d3de18$0f622cf0$2e2686d0$@sky.com>
Message-ID: <000001d3de1e$379345a0$a6b9d0e0$@gmail.com>

Dave
I have been looking at the NHS guidance on this
 
(https://www.england.nhs.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/otc-guidance-for-ccgs
.pdf) 
The emphasis seems to be on temporary acute or self-limiting conditions not
long term chronic ones.
There is a specific exception for long term arthritis (it's on page 12) 

		"General Exceptions to the Guidance: 
		There are  however certain  scenarios  where  patients
should  continue  to  have  their treatments prescribed and these are
outlined below: 
*	Patients  prescribed  an  OTC  treatment  for  a  long  term
condition (e.g.  regular pain relief for chronic arthritis or treatments for
inflammatory bowel disease)."

So it could be that your GP practice or CCG is stepping outside the
guidelines.   

Bill J

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From dave.mdv at btinternet.com  Fri Apr 27 07:33:30 2018
From: dave.mdv at btinternet.com (dave.mdv)
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2018 13:33:30 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] NHS over the counter pain relieving pills
In-Reply-To: <000001d3de1e$379345a0$a6b9d0e0$@gmail.com>
References: <001201d3de18$0f622cf0$2e2686d0$@sky.com>
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Thanks Bill, very informative! Cheers, Dave


On 27/04/2018 12:52, Bill Jenkin wrote:
> RE: [Tech1] NHS over the counter pain relieving pills
>
> Dave
>
> I have been looking at the NHSguidanceon this
>
> (_https://www.england.nhs.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/otc-guidance-for-ccgs.pdf_)
> The emphasis seems to be on temporaryacuteorself-limitingconditionsnot 
> long term chronic ones.
>
> There is a specific exception for long termarthritis (it's on page 12)
>
>         "General Exceptions to the Guidance:
>
>         There are? however certain? scenarios? where? patients should?
>         continue? to? have? their treatments prescribed and these are
>         outlined below:
>
> ?Patients? prescribed? an OTC? treatment? for? a? long? term? 
> condition (e.g.? regular pain relief for chronic arthritis or 
> treatments for inflammatory bowel disease)."
>
> Soit could be thatyour GP practice or CCG is stepping outside the 
> guidelines.
>
> Bill J
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From david.plaice at googlemail.com  Fri Apr 27 10:18:35 2018
From: david.plaice at googlemail.com (David Plaice)
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2018 16:18:35 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] LNLU Z Cars behind the scenes
In-Reply-To: <57fceca2-f51e-e0ac-f30f-c4ed9ca1c56c@gmail.com>
References: <57fceca2-f51e-e0ac-f30f-c4ed9ca1c56c@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CANssj36y5fNUsqZJDwOWi4-kBc6caJLyAmPpcQOcvDgJtj2STA@mail.gmail.com>

I think the VO is Len Mills-Smith (22:30 on)

On 17 April 2018 at 22:15, Bernard Newnham via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
wrote:

> I haven't seen this in full before, just a few stills.  Lots of people you
> know from about 1640.   You can even renew your acquaintance with Rachel Blaney's
> interesting vision mixing technique.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4LHo0CtvsY&feature=share
>
> B
>
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From geoffletch at gmail.com  Fri Apr 27 10:34:11 2018
From: geoffletch at gmail.com (Geoff Fletcher)
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2018 15:34:11 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] NHS
In-Reply-To: <CAO37+kbowBrjJi4U7-hi3aF7A5crhfpKEL5Q0ztLkf1XeBxPcg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <26b18de9-777b-05c6-538f-a8266e8b3c0b@btinternet.com>
	<ED9E6AA6E30C4DD1BA15E9D80755EE67@AdminPC>
	<85A4F7BB-E820-412A-A2DF-BAD30970E96B@icloud.com>
	<0664f11a-b844-16ec-3365-e1f6e4942632@btinternet.com>
	<476374CE-B5C6-45F6-9036-4F540E7F0932@icloud.com>
	<CAO37+kbowBrjJi4U7-hi3aF7A5crhfpKEL5Q0ztLkf1XeBxPcg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAB99AB_zUkUP=oE0p0i9H3Q=7Q2=Qu84dAHn-yDtnqaS31C-Ng@mail.gmail.com>

Change your surgery Dave- always assuming you have that option.
Geoff F

On Fri, 27 Apr 2018 at 11:12, Ian H via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:

> Just don't go to a supermarket for them, this statement from Sainsburys:
>
> *Our policy states that sales are restricted to a maximum of 2 packets of
> a combination of any paracetamol, aspirin or ibuprofen based products in a
> single transaction. Sales are also restricted to customers aged 16 and
> over. We have taken this decision as a responsible retailer and in line
> with the advised guidance from the Medicines & Healthcare products
> Regulatory Agency (MHRA). This policy balances the needs of our customers
> for immediate pain relief and prevents stockpiling of medicines which may
> lead to accidental or impulsive overdose. Further medication above 2 packs
> has to sold under the supervision of a pharmacist.*
>
> So that's all good,
> I
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 26, 2018 at 11:16 PM, Peter Neill via Tech1 <
> tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Dave - my reply was directed at David Brunt.
>>
>> Actually, I?d be surprised if Boots or a supermarket would sell you the
>> quantity you need, say for a month, in one go. They will say that if you
>> need that much you need to see a doctor!!
>>
>> Peter
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone. Apologies for typos and strange autocorrections.
>>
>> On 26 Apr 2018, at 21:31, dave.mdv <dave.mdv at btinternet.com> wrote:
>>
>> Yes, I know, Peter, but if my surgery won't give me a prescription what
>> can I do? Cheers, Dave
>>
>> On 26/04/2018 21:16, Peter Neill via Tech1 wrote:
>>
>> But David, you forget that us old codgers get free prescriptions!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 26 Apr 2018, at 21:10, David Brunt via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
>> wrote:
>>
>> It'll probably save you money.  It's recommended that if an item can be
>> bought cheaper than the cost of the prescription then people can get them
>> at pharmacies direct.
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message----- From: dave.mdv via Tech1
>> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 8:34 PM
>> To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
>> Subject: [Tech1] NHS
>>
>> Here's a new one for you! I have been on a repeat prescription for
>> painkillers (Ibuprofen 400 mg.) for umpteen years. I have just tried to
>> get the next supply and was told by my local pharmacy that the local
>> surgery (recently taken over by a 'group') won't renew the prescription
>> as the pills are available 'over the counter' so I can buy them myself
>> !!!!!!!. Meanwhile, multi-millionaire Jeremy Hunt has saved ?100,000
>> buying 7 luxury flats at the seaside to make even more money. 'Never get
>> old and never get ill' is my mantra for all of us of a certain age!
>> Cheers, Dave
>>
>>
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>>
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From dave at davesound.co.uk  Fri Apr 27 10:58:12 2018
From: dave at davesound.co.uk (Dave Plowman)
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2018 16:58:12 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] NHS over the counter pain relieving  pills
In-Reply-To: <0ED945364A9C4A0AB612B5B27DC02AAF@Gigabyte>
References: <001201d3de18$0f622cf0$2e2686d0$@sky.com>
	<0ED945364A9C4A0AB612B5B27DC02AAF@Gigabyte>
Message-ID: <56ef61c3f7dave@davesound.co.uk>

In article <0ED945364A9C4A0AB612B5B27DC02AAF at Gigabyte>,
   Mike Jordan via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> The best use for soluble Aspirin power tablets nowadays is for when
> trying to solder this nasty varnish insulated mini headphone and
> personal mic cables which are impossible to tin normally. I was given
> the hint to simply take off the plastic outer bit, twist the cores, lay
> on an aspirin tablet and approach with a newly tinned soldering iron.
> The heat melts the varnish and then the copper tins instantly and can be
> soldered to the 3.5mm jack or mini XLR. Brilliant hint!!

Excellent. I'll have to give that a try. Can you explain the chemistry of
this?

My usual method is either scraping off the lacquer with a sharp knife, or
burning it. Both fraught with danger. ;-)

-- 
*Do they ever shut up on your planet?

    Dave Plowman     dave at davesound.co.uk     London SW 12
    


From mikej at bmanor.co.uk  Fri Apr 27 11:21:06 2018
From: mikej at bmanor.co.uk (Mike Jordan)
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2018 17:21:06 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] NHS over the counter pain relieving  pills
In-Reply-To: <56ef61c3f7dave@davesound.co.uk>
References: <001201d3de18$0f622cf0$2e2686d0$@sky.com><0ED945364A9C4A0AB612B5B27DC02AAF@Gigabyte>
	<56ef61c3f7dave@davesound.co.uk>
Message-ID: <48575DEF5EFA4DCBBF5992907D822D32@Gigabyte>

As I understand it, the heat of the iron melts the varnish which is then 
absorbed into the aspirin (does the chemistry of the pill help?) leaving the 
copper clean and hot and ready for the solder. Always proper 60/40 and not 
this leadfree stuff.
The only hazardous bit is the fumes from the pill which are a bit nasty when 
it gets hot - take care.
The knife method risks cutting the very thin cores and burning it off leaves 
a burnt residue which stops the solder tinning the wires.

Mike

-----Original Message----- 
From: Dave Plowman via Tech1
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2018 4:58 PM
To: tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk
Subject: Re: [Tech1] NHS over the counter pain relieving pills

In article <0ED945364A9C4A0AB612B5B27DC02AAF at Gigabyte>,
   Mike Jordan via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> The best use for soluble Aspirin power tablets nowadays is for when
> trying to solder this nasty varnish insulated mini headphone and
> personal mic cables which are impossible to tin normally. I was given
> the hint to simply take off the plastic outer bit, twist the cores, lay
> on an aspirin tablet and approach with a newly tinned soldering iron.
> The heat melts the varnish and then the copper tins instantly and can be
> soldered to the 3.5mm jack or mini XLR. Brilliant hint!!

Excellent. I'll have to give that a try. Can you explain the chemistry of
this?

My usual method is either scraping off the lacquer with a sharp knife, or
burning it. Both fraught with danger. ;-)

-- 
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    Dave Plowman     dave at davesound.co.uk     London SW 12


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From patheigham at amps.net  Fri Apr 27 12:02:49 2018
From: patheigham at amps.net (patrickheigham)
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2018 18:02:49 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] NHS over the counter pain relieving  pills
In-Reply-To: <0ED945364A9C4A0AB612B5B27DC02AAF@Gigabyte>
References: <001201d3de18$0f622cf0$2e2686d0$@sky.com>
	<0ED945364A9C4A0AB612B5B27DC02AAF@Gigabyte>
Message-ID: <1FA965485F014B5A8D664999547F304B@PATRICKSONY>

However did you find that one out, Mike?

Sounds like the irritating cables that have the minute
conductors wound round a cotton centre?
They always come unwound when trying to solder,
but I never heard of the Asprin solution.
I assumed that the tablet was to relieve the headache
after being defeated with the repair!

As a sideline, I used to make my own TX aerials,
(dangly variety, as UHF now utilises stubby ones)
for VHF Audios, from Sennheiser headphone cables
which were steel, soldered well and were robust.
Also could be cut to the exact length for the
frequency involved. (Kish at Audio gave me the
calculation formula).
Don't ask me that - my 75 year old brain is porridge!

Best
Pat



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike Jordan via Tech1" <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
To: "Dave Buckley" <david.jasma at sky.com>; <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2018 12:33 PM
Subject: Re: [Tech1] NHS over the counter pain relieving pills


> The best use for soluble Aspirin power tablets nowadays is for when trying 
> to solder this nasty varnish insulated mini headphone and personal mic 
> cables which are impossible to tin normally.
> I was given the hint to simply take off the plastic outer bit, twist the 
> cores, lay on an aspirin tablet and approach with a newly tinned soldering 
> iron.
> The heat melts the varnish and then the copper tins instantly and can be 
> soldered to the 3.5mm jack or mini XLR.
> Brilliant hint!!
>
> Mike


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From bernie833 at gmail.com  Sat Apr 28 04:22:10 2018
From: bernie833 at gmail.com (Bernard Newnham)
Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2018 10:22:10 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] GPRD
Message-ID: <1ee3298d-59cf-35d1-b445-16858c78ad35@gmail.com>

Hi All

You've probably heard of the new data protection laws, called GPRD.?? 
Another list to which I belong recently sent me a long and pretentious 
email about how they would only protect me from ghoulies and ghosties if 
I signed the chit at the bottom of the email and returned it to them. 
Given that most people on that list aren't exactly computer savvy, this 
is presumably involving all in a complex and confusing exercise- "I 
don't have a printer", etc, etc.

I run two tech-ops mailing lists, Announce and Tech1, one for Pres, and 
one for ITTP.?? They run on a system called GNUMailman, and the various 
ways that a subscriber can interact with that are well documented. Each 
holds a list of email addresses, and archives of all the messages, 
though only those sent for the last couple of months since we were 
forced to change server.? I'm not asking anyone to sign anything, I'm 
assuming that you want the lists as you are on them, but if you need 
more info just ask.





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From mikej at bmanor.co.uk  Sat Apr 28 05:36:57 2018
From: mikej at bmanor.co.uk (Mike Jordan)
Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2018 11:36:57 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] GPRD
In-Reply-To: <1ee3298d-59cf-35d1-b445-16858c78ad35@gmail.com>
References: <1ee3298d-59cf-35d1-b445-16858c78ad35@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9A26E54E81C74A8D851CD9C3325CF816@Gigabyte>

Bernie et al

There is a very good write-up about GPRD on Jack Schofield?s site on The Guardian all about this.
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/askjack/2018/mar/29/gdpr-email-data-protection-regulations-secure

>From the Q&A section it suggests this is not relevant to ?home? or ?household? users. Certainly if one had to go though the faff of asking everyone to reply OK and keep databases etc, it would be a real pain.
It seems as if only postings which include links to non-compliant sites are a worry.
Keep posting Bernie and we (probably) promise not to dump you in the sh1t

Mike

From: Bernard Newnham via Tech1 
Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2018 10:22 AM
To: TechOps Announce ; pres at tech-ops.co.uk ; ittp at tech-ops.co.uk ; tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk 
Subject: [Tech1] GPRD

Hi All

You've probably heard of the new data protection laws, called GPRD.   Another list to which I belong recently sent me a long and pretentious email about how they would only protect me from ghoulies and ghosties if I signed the chit at the bottom of the email and returned it to them. Given that most people on that list aren't exactly computer savvy, this is presumably involving all in a complex and confusing exercise - "I don't have a printer", etc, etc.

I run two tech-ops mailing lists, Announce and Tech1, one for Pres, and one for ITTP.   They run on a system called GNU Mailman, and the various ways that a subscriber can interact with that are well documented. Each holds a list of email addresses, and archives of all the messages, though only those sent for the last couple of months since we were forced to change server.  I'm not asking anyone to sign anything, I'm assuming that you want the lists as you are on them, but if you need more info just ask.




 



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From bernie833 at gmail.com  Sun Apr 29 06:44:49 2018
From: bernie833 at gmail.com (Bernard Newnham)
Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2018 12:44:49 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Online pensions
Message-ID: <bc8c0760-ea98-ab74-d127-d56df21fb6d0@gmail.com>

I'm a lucky TSB customer, and even more luckily have another account at 
another bank, so can pay bills.?? When I finally managed to look at my 
TSB account the other day it was missing my BBC Pension entries.? Off I 
later went to the branch in Woking where they showed me that all is well.

Before that though, I went to the BBC Pensions online system. Don't know 
if you've tried it, but it has a verification system unknown to other 
services. It's far easier to get into my bank accounts? (usually), and 
I'm currently locked out for the second time in three days. It asks you 
for a user name and password - no problem - then three verification 
questions. None of your "mother's maiden name" stuff here.? So I've 
written to them -

 ?+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

OK - I officially give up.

I'm a TSB customer, and my BBC Pensions payments are missing from the 
TSB online system, though I've now checked with TSB and all is well.

Having noticed the lack of BBC Pensions entries on my TSB online 
statement, I moved on to My BBC Pension Online.

I'm told that there's a survey you can fill in, and the phone help lady 
urged me to do so. No good though if you can't even log in. I've never 
seen such a stupid awful validation system - my banks are far easier to 
get in to.

Favourite food - Don't have one. Did I put in Thai or Chinese? Was the 
entry capitalised?? Don't know. Does it matter? Don't know.
Favourite film - Don't have one, so put down Blade Runner. Can't see the 
text - did I get it right? What if it had been The Imaginarium of Doctor 
Parnassus?
Eldest cousin- Only seen him once in 50 years. When we were kids we 
called him Bill or Billy. Which did I put? Don't know. Was it capitalised?

Currently I'm locked out for the second time in three days. Have I ever 
got in?

I'm just short of my 71st birthday. At the BBC I was a senior tv 
features producer. I also wrote the computer programme that scheduled 
all of BBC World tv for it's first nine years. Since I left the BBC I've 
written a logging system for a flying club in HTML5, PHP and SQL, and 
I've also written a lowerthirds supering system using Livecode and 
CasparCG, for a university tv studio. I run a number of email lists for 
retired staff. I'm reasonably computer literate. If someone like me has 
problems with your system, what trouble must others have?

Each time I've written a computer system I've picked out the least 
computer literate of the potential users and tried on them first. Did 
you do that?

Bernard Newnham
Staff No 124512E
Pension No M33998A
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From mikej at bmanor.co.uk  Sun Apr 29 07:15:14 2018
From: mikej at bmanor.co.uk (Mike Jordan)
Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2018 13:15:14 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Online pensions
In-Reply-To: <bc8c0760-ea98-ab74-d127-d56df21fb6d0@gmail.com>
References: <bc8c0760-ea98-ab74-d127-d56df21fb6d0@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <390E721CEF1F46F3977EAF8AF37D5F17@Gigabyte>

Hey Hey ? it still works!

You must have hit WN about same time as me ? 1966! Only about 200 less in number.

Mike
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From alec.bray.2 at gmail.com  Sun Apr 29 08:16:14 2018
From: alec.bray.2 at gmail.com (Alec Bray)
Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2018 14:16:14 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Online pensions
In-Reply-To: <390E721CEF1F46F3977EAF8AF37D5F17@Gigabyte>
References: <bc8c0760-ea98-ab74-d127-d56df21fb6d0@gmail.com>
	<390E721CEF1F46F3977EAF8AF37D5F17@Gigabyte>
Message-ID: <912047ab-25eb-6603-7534-269aa3e81e91@gmail.com>

Hi

I had a nice'n'easy staff number at the BBC:? 111181?? (111181X it would 
have been, had I stayed).

-- 

Best Regards

Alec

Alec Bray

alec.bray.2 at gmail.com
mob:     07789 561 346
home:  0118 942 9543



From brian.curtis.bluesky at gmail.com  Sun Apr 29 08:40:07 2018
From: brian.curtis.bluesky at gmail.com (Brian Curtis)
Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2018 14:40:07 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Online pensions
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Hi

Mine was 144024 - TO32 course - Sept 1969

Cheers

Brian

On 29 April 2018 at 14:16, Alec Bray via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:

> Hi
>
> I had a nice'n'easy staff number at the BBC:  111181   (111181X it would
> have been, had I stayed).
>
> --
>
> Best Regards
>
> Alec
>
> Alec Bray
>
> alec.bray.2 at gmail.com
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From paulvictork at uwclub.net  Sun Apr 29 11:18:55 2018
From: paulvictork at uwclub.net (paulvictork at uwclub.net)
Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2018 16:18:55 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Online pensions
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Hello and mine was 64072
Best wishes Paul


On Sun, 29 Apr 2018 14:40:07 +0100, Brian Curtis via Tech1  wrote:
&nbsp;

Hi

&nbsp;
Mine was 144024 - TO32 course - Sept 1969

&nbsp;

Cheers

&nbsp;

Brian


&nbsp;
On 29 April 2018 at 14:16, Alec Bray via Tech1 &lt;tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk&gt; wrote:

Hi

I had a nice'n'easy staff number at the BBC:&nbsp; 111181&nbsp;&nbsp; (111181X it would have been, had I stayed).

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From peter.neill at icloud.com  Sun Apr 29 12:41:19 2018
From: peter.neill at icloud.com (Peter Neill)
Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2018 18:41:19 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Online pensions
In-Reply-To: <201804291618.w3TGIton030600@mail46c50.megamailservers.eu>
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Mine was - and still is! - 120454

I wonder if there are any lower ones still in active use.

Peter





> On 29 Apr 2018, at 17:18, paulvictork--- via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> Hello and mine was 64072
> Best wishes Paul
> 
> 
> On Sun, 29 Apr 2018 14:40:07 +0100, Brian Curtis via Tech1 wrote:
>  
> Hi
>  
> Mine was 144024 - TO32 course - Sept 1969
>  
> Cheers
>  
> Brian
>  
> On 29 April 2018 at 14:16, Alec Bray via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk <mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>> wrote:
> Hi
> 
> I had a nice'n'easy staff number at the BBC:  111181   (111181X it would have been, had I stayed).
> 
> --
> 
> Best Regards
> 
> Alec
> 
> Alec Bray
> 
> alec.bray.2 at gmail.com <mailto:alec.bray.2 at gmail.com>
> mob:     07789 561 346
> home:  0118 942 9543
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From tonycrake at gmail.com  Sun Apr 29 14:44:48 2018
From: tonycrake at gmail.com (Tony Crake)
Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2018 20:44:48 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Online pensions
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References: <bc8c0760-ea98-ab74-d127-d56df21fb6d0@gmail.com>
	<390E721CEF1F46F3977EAF8AF37D5F17@Gigabyte>
	<912047ab-25eb-6603-7534-269aa3e81e91@gmail.com>
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87370 H  ( or it may have been 087370 H)   Oct 1962    Highly inactive !!

Tony

On 29 April 2018 at 18:41, Peter Neill via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
wrote:

> Mine was - and still is! - 120454
>
> I wonder if there are any lower ones still in active use.
>
> Peter
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 29 Apr 2018, at 17:18, paulvictork--- via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
> Hello and mine was 64072
> Best wishes Paul
>
> On Sun, 29 Apr 2018 14:40:07 +0100, Brian Curtis via Tech1 wrote:
>
> Hi
>
> Mine was 144024 - TO32 course - Sept 1969
>
> Cheers
>
> Brian
>
> On 29 April 2018 at 14:16, Alec Bray via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
> wrote:
>>
>> Hi
>>
>> I had a nice'n'easy staff number at the BBC:  111181   (111181X it would
>> have been, had I stayed).
>>
>> --
>>
>> Best Regards
>>
>> Alec
>>
>> Alec Bray
>>
>> alec.bray.2 at gmail.com
>> mob:     07789 561 346
>> home:  0118 942 9543
>>
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From bernie833 at gmail.com  Sun Apr 29 14:48:56 2018
From: bernie833 at gmail.com (Bernard Newnham)
Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2018 20:48:56 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Online pensions
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References: <bc8c0760-ea98-ab74-d127-d56df21fb6d0@gmail.com>
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Yes, but have you tried the pensions website?



On 29/04/2018 20:44, Tony Crake via Tech1 wrote:
> 87370 H ?( or it may have been 087370 H) ? Oct 1962 ? ?Highly inactive !!
>
> Tony
>
> On 29 April 2018 at 18:41, Peter Neill via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk 
> <mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>> wrote:
>
>     Mine was - and still is! - 120454
>
>     I wonder if there are any lower ones still in active use.
>
>     Peter
>
>
>
>
>
>
>>     On 29 Apr 2018, at 17:18, paulvictork--- via Tech1
>>     <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk <mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>> wrote:
>>
>>     Hello and mine was 64072
>>     Best wishes Paul
>>
>>
>>     On Sun, 29 Apr 2018 14:40:07 +0100, Brian Curtis via Tech1 wrote:
>>     Hi
>>     Mine was 144024 - TO32 course - Sept 1969
>>     Cheers
>>     Brian
>>     On 29 April 2018 at 14:16, Alec Bray via Tech1
>>     <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk <mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>> wrote:
>>
>>         Hi
>>
>>         I had a nice'n'easy staff number at the BBC:? 111181??
>>         (111181X it would have been, had I stayed).
>>
>>         --
>>
>>         Best Regards
>>
>>         Alec
>>
>>         Alec Bray
>>
>>         alec.bray.2 at gmail.com <mailto:alec.bray.2 at gmail.com>
>>         mob:? ? ?07789 561 346
>>         home:? 0118 942 9543
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From geoffletch at gmail.com  Sun Apr 29 14:52:56 2018
From: geoffletch at gmail.com (Geoff Fletcher)
Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2018 19:52:56 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] Online pensions
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All this is making me feel ancient chaps!
Geoff F

On Sun, 29 Apr 2018 at 20:45, Tony Crake via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
wrote:

> 87370 H  ( or it may have been 087370 H)   Oct 1962    Highly inactive !!
>
> Tony
>
> On 29 April 2018 at 18:41, Peter Neill via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
>> Mine was - and still is! - 120454
>>
>> I wonder if there are any lower ones still in active use.
>>
>> Peter
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 29 Apr 2018, at 17:18, paulvictork--- via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hello and mine was 64072
>> Best wishes Paul
>>
>> On Sun, 29 Apr 2018 14:40:07 +0100, Brian Curtis via Tech1 wrote:
>>
>> Hi
>>
>> Mine was 144024 - TO32 course - Sept 1969
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Brian
>>
>> On 29 April 2018 at 14:16, Alec Bray via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> I had a nice'n'easy staff number at the BBC:  111181   (111181X it would
>>> have been, had I stayed).
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Best Regards
>>>
>>> Alec
>>>
>>> Alec Bray
>>>
>>> alec.bray.2 at gmail.com
>>> mob:     07789 561 346
>>> home:  0118 942 9543
>>>
>>>
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From david.jasma at sky.com  Sun Apr 29 15:22:07 2018
From: david.jasma at sky.com (Dave Buckley)
Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2018 21:22:07 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] pensions and staff numbers
Message-ID: <002d01d3dff7$bf3bcd80$3db36880$@sky.com>

I haven't had a look at the pensions website and really can't find a reason
to do so!

As for staff numbers, I acquired 110541J when I joined TFS in July 1963 when
the Beeb was recruiting staff for the start of BBC2. I continued to use it
even after I went freelance if I had to sign in anywhere.

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From ohbytheway.tv at gmail.com  Sun Apr 29 16:20:36 2018
From: ohbytheway.tv at gmail.com (David Denness)
Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2018 22:20:36 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Online pensions
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Similarly I was part of the large intake to Tech Ops in preparation for BBC 2 in October 1963 when I was told I was now 113177. As I left in 1968 I took my pension contributions with me. 

 

One of the first freelance jobs I was given was working with Intertel (facilities company) on Blue Peter at Bodiam Castle near Hastings which I found quite ironic. 

This led to a long career largely with facilities companies where I managed to find people who would pay me to do what I enjoyed doing. 

 

Finally retired (almost) at the age of 71 when it stopped being as much fun

 

Dave D

 

 

From: Tech1 <tech1-bounces at tech-ops.co.uk> On Behalf Of Tony Crake via Tech1
Sent: 29 April 2018 20:45
To: Peter Neill <peter.neill at icloud.com>
Cc: Tech Ops List <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [Tech1] Online pensions

 

87370 H  ( or it may have been 087370 H)   Oct 1962    Highly inactive !!

 

Tony

 

On 29 April 2018 at 18:41, Peter Neill via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk <mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> > wrote:

Mine was - and still is! - 120454

 

I wonder if there are any lower ones still in active use.

 

Peter

 

 

 

 

 

 

On 29 Apr 2018, at 17:18, paulvictork--- via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk <mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> > wrote:

 

Hello and mine was 64072
Best wishes Paul 

On Sun, 29 Apr 2018 14:40:07 +0100, Brian Curtis via Tech1 wrote:
  

Hi

 

Mine was 144024 - TO32 course - Sept 1969 

 

Cheers

 

Brian

  

On 29 April 2018 at 14:16, Alec Bray via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk <mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> > wrote: 

Hi

I had a nice'n'easy staff number at the BBC:  111181   (111181X it would have been, had I stayed).

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Alec

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From billjenkin67 at gmail.com  Sun Apr 29 16:45:16 2018
From: billjenkin67 at gmail.com (Bill Jenkin)
Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2018 21:45:16 +0000
Subject: [Tech1] pensions and staff numbers
In-Reply-To: <002d01d3dff7$bf3bcd80$3db36880$@sky.com>
References: <002d01d3dff7$bf3bcd80$3db36880$@sky.com>
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To answer Bernie's question - I tried to access the pensions website and
had exactly  the same experience. I ended up having to phone the pensions
centre to get my logon reactivated because you are locked out if you make
two unsuccessful attempts to log on.
I wouldn't be able to do it now because, like Bernie, I don't have a
favourite film etc etc. It is lunacy.
My staff no was 11xxxx - I'm not telling you because I use it for various
pin numbers for other websites!
Peter Neill - there was an English regions engineer who had worked full
time continuously since the year dot until comparatively recently, if he's
still there I suspect he may have a lower number than yours although I
think he may have gone.
Bill J

On Sun, 29 Apr 2018, 21:22 Dave Buckley via Tech1, <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
wrote:

> I haven't had a look at the pensions website and really can't find a reason
> to do so!
>
> As for staff numbers, I acquired 110541J when I joined TFS in July 1963
> when
> the Beeb was recruiting staff for the start of BBC2. I continued to use it
> even after I went freelance if I had to sign in anywhere.
>
> Dave Buckley
>
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From peter.neill at icloud.com  Sun Apr 29 20:11:58 2018
From: peter.neill at icloud.com (Peter Neill)
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2018 02:11:58 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] pensions and staff numbers
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Some years ago, my wife and I were making a substantial purchase (it involved the letters B&O) on her credit card. The shop had to phone for authorisation. It took several goes because in the years since she gave it she had moved offices, the BBC extensions had gone from 4 to 5 digits and the London dialling code had changed from 01 to 081 to 0181 to 0208 Fortunately there was a human being on the other end of the line who could appreciate the difficulty. 
Why do they ask security questions whose answers can change or be easily forgotten years later?

Peter. 

PS, Steve Webb, an engineer at BBC Radio London, retired last year after over 50 years service. I joined before him, but he?d been Staff for the whole time. However, I think Bill means someone further north. I must make some enquiries. 

Sent from my iPhone. Apologies for typos and strange autocorruptions. 

> On 29 Apr 2018, at 22:45, Bill Jenkin via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> To answer Bernie's question - I tried to access the pensions website and had exactly  the same experience. I ended up having to phone the pensions centre to get my logon reactivated because you are locked out if you make two unsuccessful attempts to log on. 
> I wouldn't be able to do it now because, like Bernie, I don't have a favourite film etc etc. It is lunacy.
> My staff no was 11xxxx - I'm not telling you because I use it for various pin numbers for other websites!
> Peter Neill - there was an English regions engineer who had worked full time continuously since the year dot until comparatively recently, if he's still there I suspect he may have a lower number than yours although I think he may have gone.
> Bill J
> 
>> On Sun, 29 Apr 2018, 21:22 Dave Buckley via Tech1, <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
>> I haven't had a look at the pensions website and really can't find a reason
>> to do so!
>> 
>> As for staff numbers, I acquired 110541J when I joined TFS in July 1963 when
>> the Beeb was recruiting staff for the start of BBC2. I continued to use it
>> even after I went freelance if I had to sign in anywhere.
>> 
>> Dave Buckley
>> 
>> 
>> ---
>> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
>> https://www.avast.com/antivirus
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>> 
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From peter.neill at icloud.com  Sun Apr 29 20:40:15 2018
From: peter.neill at icloud.com (Peter Neill)
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2018 02:40:15 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] pensions and staff numbers
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You will have realised that I left a vital line out of my previous email ? they were after her work phone number. 

P. 

Sent from my iPhone. Apologies for typos and strange autocorrections. 

> On 30 Apr 2018, at 02:11, Peter Neill via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> Some years ago, my wife and I were making a substantial purchase (it involved the letters B&O) on her credit card. The shop had to phone for authorisation. It took several goes because in the years since she gave it she had moved offices, the BBC extensions had gone from 4 to 5 digits and the London dialling code had changed from 01 to 081 to 0181 to 0208 Fortunately there was a human being on the other end of the line who could appreciate the difficulty. 
> Why do they ask security questions whose answers can change or be easily forgotten years later?
> 
> Peter. 
> 
> PS, Steve Webb, an engineer at BBC Radio London, retired last year after over 50 years service. I joined before him, but he?d been Staff for the whole time. However, I think Bill means someone further north. I must make some enquiries. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone. Apologies for typos and strange autocorruptions. 
> 
>> On 29 Apr 2018, at 22:45, Bill Jenkin via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
>> 
>> To answer Bernie's question - I tried to access the pensions website and had exactly  the same experience. I ended up having to phone the pensions centre to get my logon reactivated because you are locked out if you make two unsuccessful attempts to log on. 
>> I wouldn't be able to do it now because, like Bernie, I don't have a favourite film etc etc. It is lunacy.
>> My staff no was 11xxxx - I'm not telling you because I use it for various pin numbers for other websites!
>> Peter Neill - there was an English regions engineer who had worked full time continuously since the year dot until comparatively recently, if he's still there I suspect he may have a lower number than yours although I think he may have gone.
>> Bill J
>> 
>>> On Sun, 29 Apr 2018, 21:22 Dave Buckley via Tech1, <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
>>> I haven't had a look at the pensions website and really can't find a reason
>>> to do so!
>>> 
>>> As for staff numbers, I acquired 110541J when I joined TFS in July 1963 when
>>> the Beeb was recruiting staff for the start of BBC2. I continued to use it
>>> even after I went freelance if I had to sign in anywhere.
>>> 
>>> Dave Buckley
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ---
>>> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
>>> https://www.avast.com/antivirus
>>> 
>>> 
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From ravenscourt1 at btinternet.com  Mon Apr 30 04:08:00 2018
From: ravenscourt1 at btinternet.com (Albert Barber)
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2018 10:08:00 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] pensions and staff numbers
In-Reply-To: <16B0803B-738B-4C16-A4AE-1663F8B1F358@icloud.com>
References: <002d01d3dff7$bf3bcd80$3db36880$@sky.com>
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Depending on which website, the BBCPA or My Pension I?m not sure if either website can help. If they are not members they can?t get further than the public area of the BBCPA website and Cardiff BBC ?My Pension? website won?t tell you either. If it is personal staff numbers it is covered by the confidentiality law which is I think what the query is about is it not?

Sent from my iPad

> On 30 Apr 2018, at 02:40, Peter Neill via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> You will have realised that I left a vital line out of my previous email ? they were after her work phone number. 
> 
> P. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone. Apologies for typos and strange autocorrections. 
> 
>> On 30 Apr 2018, at 02:11, Peter Neill via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
>> 
>> Some years ago, my wife and I were making a substantial purchase (it involved the letters B&O) on her credit card. The shop had to phone for authorisation. It took several goes because in the years since she gave it she had moved offices, the BBC extensions had gone from 4 to 5 digits and the London dialling code had changed from 01 to 081 to 0181 to 0208 Fortunately there was a human being on the other end of the line who could appreciate the difficulty. 
>> Why do they ask security questions whose answers can change or be easily forgotten years later?
>> 
>> Peter. 
>> 
>> PS, Steve Webb, an engineer at BBC Radio London, retired last year after over 50 years service. I joined before him, but he?d been Staff for the whole time. However, I think Bill means someone further north. I must make some enquiries. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone. Apologies for typos and strange autocorruptions. 
>> 
>>> On 29 Apr 2018, at 22:45, Bill Jenkin via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
>>> 
>>> To answer Bernie's question - I tried to access the pensions website and had exactly  the same experience. I ended up having to phone the pensions centre to get my logon reactivated because you are locked out if you make two unsuccessful attempts to log on. 
>>> I wouldn't be able to do it now because, like Bernie, I don't have a favourite film etc etc. It is lunacy.
>>> My staff no was 11xxxx - I'm not telling you because I use it for various pin numbers for other websites!
>>> Peter Neill - there was an English regions engineer who had worked full time continuously since the year dot until comparatively recently, if he's still there I suspect he may have a lower number than yours although I think he may have gone.
>>> Bill J
>>> 
>>>> On Sun, 29 Apr 2018, 21:22 Dave Buckley via Tech1, <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
>>>> I haven't had a look at the pensions website and really can't find a reason
>>>> to do so!
>>>> 
>>>> As for staff numbers, I acquired 110541J when I joined TFS in July 1963 when
>>>> the Beeb was recruiting staff for the start of BBC2. I continued to use it
>>>> even after I went freelance if I had to sign in anywhere.
>>>> 
>>>> Dave Buckley
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> ---
>>>> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
>>>> https://www.avast.com/antivirus
>>>> 
>>>> 
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From bernie833 at gmail.com  Mon Apr 30 04:40:12 2018
From: bernie833 at gmail.com (Bernard Newnham)
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2018 10:40:12 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] pensions and staff numbers
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My original query was "Has my pension been paid, to the knowledge of BBC 
Pensions?". I thought that I could find that out on the My Pensions 
site. Whether I could or not I don't know, but the lady on the phone 
enquiry line just asked for my name, date of birth and pension number or 
NI number.? She said yes it had, so off I went to the TSB who agreed. 
Only the TSB online system disagreed.

It still isn't working correctly. I expect it's revenge for Gibraltar.

B



On 30/04/2018 10:08, Albert Barber via Tech1 wrote:
> Depending on which website, the BBCPA or My Pension I?m not sure if 
> either website can help. If they are not members they can?t get 
> further than the public area of the BBCPA website and Cardiff BBC ?My 
> Pension? website won?t tell you either. If it is personal staff 
> numbers it is covered by the confidentiality law which is I think what 
> the query is about is it not?
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On 30 Apr 2018, at 02:40, Peter Neill via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk 
> <mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>> wrote:
>
>> You will have realised that I left a vital line out of my previous 
>> email ? they were after her work phone number.
>>
>> P.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone. Apologies for typos and strange autocorrections.
>>
>> On 30 Apr 2018, at 02:11, Peter Neill via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk 
>> <mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>> wrote:
>>
>>> Some years ago, my wife and I were making a substantial purchase (it 
>>> involved the letters B&O) on her credit card. The shop had to phone 
>>> for authorisation. It took several goes because in the years since 
>>> she gave it she had moved offices, the BBC extensions had gone from 
>>> 4 to 5 digits and the London dialling code had changed from 01 to 
>>> 081 to 0181 to 0208 Fortunately there was a human being on the other 
>>> end of the line who could appreciate the difficulty.
>>> Why do they ask security questions whose answers can change or be 
>>> easily forgotten years later?
>>>
>>> Peter.
>>>
>>> PS, Steve Webb, an engineer at BBC Radio London, retired last year 
>>> after over 50 years service. I joined before him, but he?d been 
>>> Staff for the whole time. However, I think Bill means someone 
>>> further north. I must make some enquiries.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone. Apologies for typos and strange autocorruptions.
>>>
>>> On 29 Apr 2018, at 22:45, Bill Jenkin via Tech1 
>>> <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk <mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> To answer Bernie's question - I tried to access the pensions 
>>>> website and had exactly the same experience. I ended up having to 
>>>> phone the pensions centre to get my logon reactivated because you 
>>>> are locked out if you make two unsuccessful attempts to log on.
>>>> I wouldn't be able to do it now because, like Bernie, I don't have 
>>>> a favourite film etc etc. It is lunacy.
>>>> My staff no was 11xxxx - I'm not telling you because I use it for 
>>>> various pin numbers for other websites!
>>>> Peter Neill - there was an English regions engineer who had worked 
>>>> full time continuously since the year dot until comparatively 
>>>> recently, if he's still there I suspect he may have a lower number 
>>>> than yours although I think he may have gone.
>>>> Bill J
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, 29 Apr 2018, 21:22 Dave Buckley via Tech1, 
>>>> <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk <mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>     I haven't had a look at the pensions website and really can't
>>>>     find a reason
>>>>     to do so!
>>>>
>>>>     As for staff numbers, I acquired 110541J when I joined TFS in
>>>>     July 1963 when
>>>>     the Beeb was recruiting staff for the start of BBC2. I
>>>>     continued to use it
>>>>     even after I went freelance if I had to sign in anywhere.
>>>>
>>>>     Dave Buckley
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     ---
>>>>     This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus
>>>>     software.
>>>>     https://www.avast.com/antivirus
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
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From bernie833 at gmail.com  Mon Apr 30 04:40:28 2018
From: bernie833 at gmail.com (Bernard Newnham)
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2018 10:40:28 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] pensions and staff numbers
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My original query was "Has my pension been paid, to the knowledge of BBC 
Pensions?". I thought that I could find that out on the My Pensions 
site. Whether I could or not I don't know, but the lady on the phone 
enquiry line just asked for my name, date of birth and pension number or 
NI number.? She said yes it had, so off I went to the TSB who agreed. 
Only the TSB online system disagreed.

It still isn't working correctly. I expect it's revenge for Gibraltar.

B



On 30/04/2018 10:08, Albert Barber via Tech1 wrote:
> Depending on which website, the BBCPA or My Pension I?m not sure if 
> either website can help. If they are not members they can?t get 
> further than the public area of the BBCPA website and Cardiff BBC ?My 
> Pension? website won?t tell you either. If it is personal staff 
> numbers it is covered by the confidentiality law which is I think what 
> the query is about is it not?
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On 30 Apr 2018, at 02:40, Peter Neill via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk 
> <mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>> wrote:
>
>> You will have realised that I left a vital line out of my previous 
>> email ? they were after her work phone number.
>>
>> P.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone. Apologies for typos and strange autocorrections.
>>
>> On 30 Apr 2018, at 02:11, Peter Neill via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk 
>> <mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>> wrote:
>>
>>> Some years ago, my wife and I were making a substantial purchase (it 
>>> involved the letters B&O) on her credit card. The shop had to phone 
>>> for authorisation. It took several goes because in the years since 
>>> she gave it she had moved offices, the BBC extensions had gone from 
>>> 4 to 5 digits and the London dialling code had changed from 01 to 
>>> 081 to 0181 to 0208 Fortunately there was a human being on the other 
>>> end of the line who could appreciate the difficulty.
>>> Why do they ask security questions whose answers can change or be 
>>> easily forgotten years later?
>>>
>>> Peter.
>>>
>>> PS, Steve Webb, an engineer at BBC Radio London, retired last year 
>>> after over 50 years service. I joined before him, but he?d been 
>>> Staff for the whole time. However, I think Bill means someone 
>>> further north. I must make some enquiries.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone. Apologies for typos and strange autocorruptions.
>>>
>>> On 29 Apr 2018, at 22:45, Bill Jenkin via Tech1 
>>> <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk <mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> To answer Bernie's question - I tried to access the pensions 
>>>> website and had exactly the same experience. I ended up having to 
>>>> phone the pensions centre to get my logon reactivated because you 
>>>> are locked out if you make two unsuccessful attempts to log on.
>>>> I wouldn't be able to do it now because, like Bernie, I don't have 
>>>> a favourite film etc etc. It is lunacy.
>>>> My staff no was 11xxxx - I'm not telling you because I use it for 
>>>> various pin numbers for other websites!
>>>> Peter Neill - there was an English regions engineer who had worked 
>>>> full time continuously since the year dot until comparatively 
>>>> recently, if he's still there I suspect he may have a lower number 
>>>> than yours although I think he may have gone.
>>>> Bill J
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, 29 Apr 2018, 21:22 Dave Buckley via Tech1, 
>>>> <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk <mailto:tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>     I haven't had a look at the pensions website and really can't
>>>>     find a reason
>>>>     to do so!
>>>>
>>>>     As for staff numbers, I acquired 110541J when I joined TFS in
>>>>     July 1963 when
>>>>     the Beeb was recruiting staff for the start of BBC2. I
>>>>     continued to use it
>>>>     even after I went freelance if I had to sign in anywhere.
>>>>
>>>>     Dave Buckley
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     ---
>>>>     This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus
>>>>     software.
>>>>     https://www.avast.com/antivirus
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     -- 
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>>>>     Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk <mailto:Tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk>
>>>>     http://tech-ops.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/tech1_tech-ops.co.uk
>>>>
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From dave.mdv at btinternet.com  Mon Apr 30 04:54:43 2018
From: dave.mdv at btinternet.com (dave.mdv)
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2018 10:54:43 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Staff numbers
Message-ID: <600e7527-5fde-df49-d109-4307c016e2ed@btinternet.com>

My 'intake' in December 1960 all had '80' prefixes, the next batch had 
'84' and so on. One of the senior chaps in Birmingham (Ronnie Arthur) 
had a four-digit staff number, something like 1275, he had joined before 
WW2! Cheers, Dave



From dave at davesound.co.uk  Mon Apr 30 05:15:37 2018
From: dave at davesound.co.uk (Dave Plowman)
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2018 11:15:37 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] pensions and staff numbers
In-Reply-To: <C66AD16E-68C5-4A82-8717-F839F6AFFC68@icloud.com>
References: <002d01d3dff7$bf3bcd80$3db36880$@sky.com>
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	<C66AD16E-68C5-4A82-8717-F839F6AFFC68@icloud.com>
Message-ID: <56f0cde8bfdave@davesound.co.uk>

In article <C66AD16E-68C5-4A82-8717-F839F6AFFC68 at icloud.com>,
   Peter Neill via Tech1 <tech1 at tech-ops.co.uk> wrote:
> Why do they ask security questions whose answers can change or be easily
> forgotten years later?

Quite. Recently phone my bank. No light task these days. And it seems I
don't know my mother's maiden name correctly - the only security question
of that sort I was asked.

If I had changed it for any reason, I can't remember why or to what. And
no idea how to sort it out.

-- 
*A day without sunshine is like... night.*

    Dave Plowman     dave at davesound.co.uk     London SW 12
    


From bernie833 at gmail.com  Mon Apr 30 06:41:32 2018
From: bernie833 at gmail.com (Bernard Newnham)
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2018 12:41:32 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Test for Nick Way
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Test for Nick Way
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From bernie833 at gmail.com  Mon Apr 30 15:25:43 2018
From: bernie833 at gmail.com (Bernard Newnham)
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2018 21:25:43 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] Test for Phil Dean on Yahoo
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Test for Phil Dean on Yahoo
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From ian.hillson at gmail.com  Mon Apr 30 16:04:49 2018
From: ian.hillson at gmail.com (Ian H)
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2018 22:04:49 +0100
Subject: [Tech1] FYE: "Amazon, Brexit and poor management"
In-Reply-To: <CAJfPDPkWZbM3j27Z3OQuJDBsOF_AtKM9z0-CVH0SpT9kvPS-0g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJfPDPk2FtGf0NNhn26P13M7E_RWKwL3DiwiOmLuDjrMozjBug@mail.gmail.com>
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https://www.mirror.co.uk/interactives/amazon-brexit-poor-management-maplin-
12454572

https://www.thesun.co.uk/money/6176937/maplin-store-staff-funny-faq-sign/

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