{"id":7586,"date":"2017-11-25T09:39:39","date_gmt":"2017-11-25T09:39:39","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/tech-ops.co.uk\/next\/?page_id=7586"},"modified":"2017-11-25T09:39:39","modified_gmt":"2017-11-25T09:39:39","slug":"john-wilson-prom-35","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"http:\/\/tech-ops.co.uk\/next\/john-wilson-prom-35\/","title":{"rendered":"John Wilson Prom 35"},"content":{"rendered":"<h3><strong>Pat Heigham<\/strong><\/h3>\n<p>I wonder if anyone else saw\/heard this?<\/p>\n<p>I was puzzled that the TV broadcast was 30 mins behind the R3 live airing. Then I realised that it was because of deleting the interval section. Must have been a hectic edit!<\/p>\n<h3><strong>Bernie Newnham<\/strong><\/h3>\n<p>I think those things are all recorded solid state these days &#8211; play back and edit at the same time as record. So just start playing back at on-air time and delete the interval as you go.<\/p>\n<h3><strong>Pat Heigham<\/strong><\/h3>\n<p>I was slightly disappointed, as it was plugged as &#8216;semi-staged&#8217;. More like nearly fully staged, as the orchestra barely featured.<\/p>\n<p>Good sound balance, though, but visually buggered by the earpiece\/cheek mics. I wonder what the difference would have been if the mics were fitted, hidden, in costumes.<\/p>\n<h3><strong>Dave Plowman<\/strong><\/h3>\n<p>A vast difference. Try putting your ear (with the other closed off) on someone&#8217;s chest while they talk. Best to get permission first.<\/p>\n<p>Personal mics on the chest are the spawn of Satan where vocal quality is concerned.<\/p>\n<h3><strong>Nick Ware<\/strong><\/h3>\n<p>Couldn&#8217;t agree more.<\/p>\n<h3><strong>Barry Bonner<\/strong><\/h3>\n<p>There were three ex-BBC sound supervisors living it up in a Grand Tier box at Friday&#8217;s John Wilson Prom of \u201cOklahoma\u201d (the Matin\u00e9e performance) who thought it was excellent in every aspect!&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h3><strong>Nick Ware<\/strong><\/h3>\n<p>Who were the other two?<\/p>\n<h3><strong>Martin Eccles<\/strong><\/h3>\n<p>I was in the hall for the matinee performance of \u201cOklahoma\u201d, which telly used as a dress rehearsal for the evening recording \/ tx.<\/p>\n<p>It was a performance for the people in the Royal Albert Hall, most of whom would not be close enough to notice the radio mics. &nbsp;There were 31 radio mics.<\/p>\n<p>The use of hidden microphones would have been a very different story\u2026 They had to survive 3 hours of acting, costume changes, dancing and even fighting on the floor.<\/p>\n<p>There were no noise problems at all with the radio mics, just couple of late fades by the in-house PA mixers.<\/p>\n<p>As for the \u201csemi staging\u201d it told the whole entertaining story.<\/p>\n<p>How boring it would have been with the 11 soloists, &nbsp;in evening dress with a stand mic each, in a line, in front of the orchestra.<\/p>\n<p>If it was theatrically \u201cfully staged\u201d there would have been a lot more scenery and the orchestra would be out of sight in a pit ! &nbsp;So much for seeing the second desk lady first violinist then !<\/p>\n<p>It was created in just 10 days of outside rehearsals for the actors, dancers and singers.<\/p>\n<p>There was a credit for EVS Operator who must have looked after the digital playout and the time-shift for interval feature.<\/p>\n<p>I recorded the evening transmission and Andy Payne, Matt Charles and the sound crew, only credited on every prom as the Sound Alliance (their request) always do a brilliant job on the 5.1 surround sound telly mix.<\/p>\n<p>John Wilson and his merry band really enjoy playing big film and musical scores.<br \/>\nA jolly romp of a show with glorious, soaring music and songs, and good triumphing over evil.<\/p>\n<h3><strong>Tony Millier<\/strong><\/h3>\n<p>I was the third, very retired, Sound Supervisor at the performance, and really enjoyed it.<\/p>\n<h3><strong>Pat Heigham<\/strong><\/h3>\n<p>Glad you enjoyed the concert &#8211; The John Wilson Orchestra is always a delight and a bloody good band.<\/p>\n<p>I was going to make the same observation as Martin did. A theatre\/RAH audience is not close enough to be worried by the cheek mics: it&#8217;s different when cameras can hold a BCU on the artistes&#8217; faces, thus I find them irritating, although those particular mics are the right choice for a number of reasons, including:<\/p>\n<ul class=\"L1_1\">\n<li>\n<div class=\"Bullet\" style=\"margin-top:auto;\">constant mouth-mic distance; no off mic on head turns<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<div class=\"Bullet\" style=\"margin-top:auto;\">as close to mouth to minimise colouration of orchestra and PA<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Agreed that a &#8216;full&#8217; staging would have involved scenery etc. &nbsp;But we didn&#8217;t see enough of the orchestra, sadly. &nbsp;The second desk lady violinist is lovely, she always looks as she&#8217;s &nbsp;thoroughly enjoying it. I believe her to be Ruth Rogers <\/p>\n<p>I did wonder if she was Mrs. Wilson, as she&#8217;s always in the line-up.<\/p>\n<p>For my money the best player is lead trumpet Mike Lovatt &#8211; brilliant. I wonder if the lead sax, Howard McGill has the nickname of &#8216;Tin-Tin&#8217; as he sports the same quiff!<\/p>\n<p>If anyone wants a disc of the show, let me know (actually probably two discs). I didn&#8217;t notice the edit out of the interval, it was undetectable.<\/p>\n<p>I was searching for a list of the musical numbers, and came across this:<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/jasoncochran.com\/articles\/oklahoma-is-one-of-the-dirtiest-movie-musicals-of-all-time\/\"><font color=\"#000000\"><span style=\"text-decoration:none;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/jasoncochran.com\/articles\/oklahoma-is-one-of-the-dirtiest-movie-musicals-of-all-time\/\">http:\/\/jasoncochran.com\/articles\/oklahoma-is-one-of-the-dirtiest-movie-musicals-of-all-time\/<\/a><\/span><\/font><\/a><\/p>\n<p>I think the man is seriously warped, or has a hang-up about sex, somehow!<\/p>\n<h3><strong>John Nottage<\/strong><\/h3>\n<p>At last we found a spare 3 hours to watch our recorded copy of John Wilson&#8217;s \u201cOklahoma!\u201d prom. <\/p>\n<p>Fabulous &#8211; loved the &quot;semi-staging&quot;, the cast, the singing, the audience reaction &#8211; everything. <\/p>\n<p>Technically almost flawless too. <\/p>\n<p>Great songs every few minutes: &quot;They don&#8217;t write songs like that any more&quot; &#8211; sorry \u201cLa La Land\u201d; no contest.<\/p>\n<p>I rather liked the way many of the female singers spoke American and then sang pure &quot;Home Counties&quot;. Such wonderful clear diction from everybody too: nobody could complain of mumbling or needing subtitles. The drama world could learn a thing or two there. Only one problem &#8211; now I can&#8217;t get the songs out of my head!<\/p>\n<p><!-- Footer --><\/p>\n<h1>&nbsp;<\/h1>\n<p class=\"western\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-1061\" src=\"http:\/\/tech-ops.co.uk\/next\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/07\/ianfootersmall-300x104.jpg\" alt=\"ianfootersmall\" width=\"300\" height=\"104\" srcset=\"http:\/\/tech-ops.co.uk\/next\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/07\/ianfootersmall-300x104.jpg 300w, http:\/\/tech-ops.co.uk\/next\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/07\/ianfootersmall.jpg 348w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/p>\n<p><!-- END Footer --><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Pat Heigham I wonder if anyone else saw\/heard this? I was puzzled that the TV broadcast was 30 mins behind the R3 live airing. 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