{"id":3913,"date":"2015-07-15T13:14:15","date_gmt":"2015-07-15T13:14:15","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/tech-ops.co.uk\/next\/?page_id=3913"},"modified":"2024-03-27T11:42:55","modified_gmt":"2024-03-27T11:42:55","slug":"8mm-projector","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"http:\/\/tech-ops.co.uk\/next\/8mm-projector\/","title":{"rendered":"8mm Projector and Film"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>Gary Critcher<\/strong><\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I have this Eumig P8 projector. &nbsp;I\u2019m pretty sure it\u2019s in working order.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<em>(Click on the picture below to see a larger or clearer version of this picture:<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Click the &#8220;X&#8221; button (top right) to close the newly opened picture.)<\/em><br><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image is-resized\"><a href=\"http:\/\/tech-ops.co.uk\/next\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/07\/8_mm_proj_1.png\" data-rel=\"lightbox-image-0\" data-rl_title=\"\" data-rl_caption=\"\" title=\"\"><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"197\" height=\"300\" src=\"http:\/\/tech-ops.co.uk\/next\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/07\/8_mm_proj_1-197x300.png\" alt=\"8_mm_proj_1\" class=\"wp-image-3912\" style=\"width:666px;height:auto\" srcset=\"http:\/\/tech-ops.co.uk\/next\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/07\/8_mm_proj_1-197x300.png 197w, http:\/\/tech-ops.co.uk\/next\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/07\/8_mm_proj_1.png 346w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 197px) 100vw, 197px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>Alan Stokes<\/strong><\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I haven&#8217;t seen one of these for a long time. I had a version of the P8 which had capstans and rollers on the side to &#8216;synchronise&#8217; a \u00bc&#8221; tape running at 3\u00be i.p.s. It behaved (or not) rather like a sepmag track in Telecine. You added &#8216;start&#8217; marks on the standard 8mm film and the \u00bc&#8221;. Then, I think you set the projector to &#8216;run&#8217; but it didn&#8217;t actually run until the \u00bc&#8221; started. The projector then wowed, not unlike a sepmag, until it had reached the speed to match. The speed of the projector was then adjusted by a control arm around which the \u00bc&#8221; was laced. It was attached to a speed controller inside the P8. It could be troublesome if you fired of the \u00bc&#8221; without having put the projector into standby first. The control arm dropped and tape started spilling all over the floor.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Creating the sound track was fun! You had no &#8216;rock-n-roll&#8217; to help. I used to run it through the projector, in record, to create a click at every cut in the film. I then worked with a shot list, viewing in the film editor if necessary.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>Patrick Heigham<\/strong><\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Sounds very similar to how I put together my illicit 8mm film of the Black &amp; White Minstrels. The projector system was a Bauer T10R which had an electrical connection to a tape driven capstan standing next to the tape machine. ( I successfully gaffer taped it to a TR90 for a screening in the 6th floor hospitality suite!). It would handle a tape at 7.5 ips with a larger capstan. To edit the material, I ran a clear film, bleached of emulsion, and dabbed at it with a chinagraph, against a feed sprocket, where I needed a musical cut. The separation between the spocket and gate was therefore consistent. Having established where the picture started and stopped shot by shot, then this was matched to my chinagraph &#8216;cutting print&#8217;! Sadly no-one made an 8mm Pic-Sync. There was an 8mm model of the Siemens 16mm double head, but unaffordable. I wondered about having a 16mm blow-up done, but as computer editing came in, I realised that I could correct some of the sync drift (clockwork camera!), but thought, No, that&#8217;s how I made it &#8211; I&#8217;m not going to fiddle with it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">It&#8217;s now been transferred to DVD, via re-photographing a small projected picture with a Sony Betacam 400, with a shutter\/frame speed&nbsp;control, reducing the inevitable flicker and illumination pulsing which is evident when trying to copy a cine film at 16fps with electronic 25fps! There is an outfit in Cheshire which offers frame by frame scanning, with constant run, no intermittent, but I haven&#8217;t yet tried them.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I would be prepared to send a DVD copy to any Tech-ops people if they would like to wallow in the nostalgia of the TVT in the early 1960&#8217;s and the leggy lovelies of the TV Toppers. (TV was B\/W, but the 8mm is colour!). Provided no-one flings it to You-Tube! A clip somehow found its way there and Bernie kindly had it taken down.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Here is a PDF document of the story behind the film.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<!--  Block file to load PDF -->\n<div class=\"wp-block-file\"><object class=\"wp-block-file__embed\" data=\"http:\/\/tech-ops.co.uk\/next\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/The_Black_and_White_Minstrel_Show.pdf\" type=\"application\/pdf\" style=\"width:100%;height:870px\" aria-label=\"The Black and White Minstrel Show\"><\/object><br><br><a href=\"http:\/\/tech-ops.co.uk\/next\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/The_Black_and_White_Minstrel_Show.pdf\"><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"231\" height=\"37\" src=\"http:\/\/tech-ops.co.uk\/next\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/download-PDF.png\" alt=\"download button\" class=\"wp-image-17100\" style=\"width:auto;height:25px\"\/><\/a><\/div>\n\n<!--  Block for the download button -->\n<p><br>Click on <span style=\"font-family: Arial\"><em>Download PDF<\/em><\/span> to see the PDF in an alternative viewer: this allows you to print or save the complete PDF document, and often makes the document easier to read.<br><br>\nTo return to this page, use your browser&#8217;s <span style=\"font-family: Arial\">Go Back One Page<\/span> button.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<!-- Black and White Apologia -->\n<p>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++<\/p>\n\n<div style=\"font-family: 'Arial';\">Apologia<\/div>\n\n<div style=\"font-size: 8pt; font-family: 'Arial';\">The &#8220;Black and White Minstrel Show&#8221; was a very popular program for some twenty years, pulling in audiences of 21 MILLION &#8211; (at one time, nearly half the population) &#8211; a week.  It has its place in the Tech Ops website &#8211; we can not ignore such a show.<\/div>\n\n<div style=\"font-size: 8pt; font-family: 'Arial';\">There has been a tradition of &#8216;blackface&#8217; in England from the 1450s, usually to evade performer identification.  But the B&#038;W Minstrels were squarely in the US and early movie tradition of white blackface to pretend to be Afro-American performers, and such a show is now culturally unacceptable.<\/div><br>\n\n<p>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++<\/p>\n<!-- End of Black and White Apologia -->\n\n\n\n\n<h1 class=\"wp-block-heading\">&nbsp;<\/h1>\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"aligncenter\"><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"300\" height=\"104\" src=\"http:\/\/tech-ops.co.uk\/next\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/07\/ianfootersmall-300x104.jpg\" alt=\"ianfootersmall\" class=\"wp-image-1061\" srcset=\"http:\/\/tech-ops.co.uk\/next\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/07\/ianfootersmall-300x104.jpg 300w, http:\/\/tech-ops.co.uk\/next\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/07\/ianfootersmall.jpg 348w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Gary Critcher I have this Eumig P8 projector. &nbsp;I\u2019m pretty sure it\u2019s in working order.&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(Click on the picture below to see a larger or clearer version of this picture:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Click the &#8220;X&#8221; button (top right) to close the newly opened &hellip; <a href=\"http:\/\/tech-ops.co.uk\/next\/8mm-projector\/\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":6,"featured_media":0,"parent":0,"menu_order":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","template":"","meta":{"_coblocks_attr":"","_coblocks_dimensions":"","_coblocks_responsive_height":"","_coblocks_accordion_ie_support":"","advgb_blocks_editor_width":"","advgb_blocks_columns_visual_guide":"","_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_active":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_note":"","_monsterinsights_sitenote_category":0,"ngg_post_thumbnail":0,"footnotes":""},"categories":[],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-3913","page","type-page","status-publish","hentry"],"coauthors":[],"author_meta":{"author_link":"http:\/\/tech-ops.co.uk\/next\/author\/alec\/","display_name":"Alec Bray"},"relative_dates":{"created":"Posted 11 years ago","modified":"Updated 2 years ago"},"absolute_dates":{"created":"Posted on July 15, 2015","modified":"Updated on March 27, 2024"},"absolute_dates_time":{"created":"Posted on July 15, 2015 1:14 pm","modified":"Updated on March 27, 2024 11:42 am"},"featured_img_caption":"","featured_img":false,"series_order":"","_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/tech-ops.co.uk\/next\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/pages\/3913","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/tech-ops.co.uk\/next\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/pages"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/tech-ops.co.uk\/next\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/page"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/tech-ops.co.uk\/next\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/6"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/tech-ops.co.uk\/next\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=3913"}],"version-history":[{"count":15,"href":"http:\/\/tech-ops.co.uk\/next\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/pages\/3913\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":18853,"href":"http:\/\/tech-ops.co.uk\/next\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/pages\/3913\/revisions\/18853"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/tech-ops.co.uk\/next\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=3913"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/tech-ops.co.uk\/next\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=3913"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/tech-ops.co.uk\/next\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=3913"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}