{"id":2114,"date":"2014-11-04T08:55:27","date_gmt":"2014-11-04T08:55:27","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/tech-ops.co.uk\/next\/?p=2114"},"modified":"2014-11-04T08:55:27","modified_gmt":"2014-11-04T08:55:27","slug":"noises-off","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"http:\/\/tech-ops.co.uk\/next\/noises-off\/","title":{"rendered":"Noises Off"},"content":{"rendered":"<h3><strong>Bernie Newnham<\/strong><\/h3>\n<p>After now more than 48 years in this business in various disguises, and 30 or so asking sound men to do stuff, I had never heard the word \u201cdiegetic\u201d before a student had it written all over some storyboards.<\/p>\n<h3><strong>Martin Eccles, Philip Tyler, Brian Curtis, John Howell, Tony Crake, Graeme Wall<\/strong><\/h3>\n<p>Must be new and trendy: \u00a0diegetic and non-diegetic are just posh media studies terms used when writing about film\/television sound (media studies wannabes use it \u00a0&#8211; posh terms are taught rather than any &#8220;craft skills&#8221;). \u00a0We didn\u2019t have a name for it: indeed there was no need for a name, the few &#8216;non-diegetic&#8217; sounds within a mix would be referred to by name, eg. incidental music and narration.<\/p>\n<p>Diegesis is a Greek word for &#8220;recounted story&#8221; or \u201cnarration\u201d. \u00a0It is confusing how the Greek for \u201cnarration\u201d could suddenly switch to being the &#8220;actual sound&#8221; but need to remember that \u00a0Greek narration was done by an in-vision chorus.<\/p>\n<p><b>DIEGETIC SOUND<\/b><\/p>\n<p>Another term for diegetic sound is \u201cactual sound\u201d or \u201c in vision sound\u201d.Any sound whose source is visible on the screen or whose source is implied to be present by the action of the film: it is sound on set or sound that can be seen to arise from on set including passing traffic noise and music played on set band in the corner of pub or coming from radio\/ TV on set. Examples are:<\/p>\n<ul class=\"L1_1\">\n<li>\n<div class=\"Bullet\">voices of characters<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<div class=\"Bullet\">sounds made by objects in the story<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<div class=\"Bullet\">music represented as coming from instruments in the story space (as source music)<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>In terms of say, Outside Broadcast Sports programmes, \u00a0diegetic sound would equate to &#8220;International Sound&#8221; \u00a0(that is, the total sound of all in the &#8216;stadium&#8217; &#8230;FX, PA, in vision interviews ( if offered as part of the complete International Vision).. but without your own English Commentator.<\/p>\n<p>Diegetic sound is any sound presented as originated from source within the film&#8217;s world, and \u00a0can be either on screen or off screen depending on whatever its source is within the frame or outside the frame.<\/p>\n<p><b>NON-DIEGETIC SOUND <\/b><\/p>\n<p>This is sound whose source is neither visible on the screen nor has been implied to be present in the action: examples are:<\/p>\n<ul class=\"L1_1\">\n<li>\n<div class=\"Bullet\">narrator&#8217;s commentary (voice over)<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<div class=\"Bullet\">sound effects which is added for the dramatic effect<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<div class=\"Bullet\">mood music<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Non-diegetic sound is represented as coming from the a source outside story space.<\/p>\n<h3><strong>Roger Bunce<\/strong><\/h3>\n<p>So &#8211; the old comedy sketch, where there is a spoof dramatic moment, and the mounting suspense music is gradually building louder and louder, until one of the actors yells at the orchestra to shut up &#8211; and we suddenly seen that there is a completely incongruous orchestra on the set &#8211; that must be non-diagetic sound up until the point where the orchestra is revealed, when it suddenly switches to\u00a0diagetic\u00a0sound. Seems like a completely unnecessary distinction to me.<\/p>\n<p>Further, my students used to witter about &#8220;the 180 degree rule&#8221;, which meant nothing to me until I realised they were just talking about not crossing the eye-line. Media colleges seem to like excessive verbiage.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Bernie Newnham After now more than 48 years in this business in various disguises, and 30 or so asking sound men to do stuff, I had never heard the word \u201cdiegetic\u201d before a student had it written all over some &hellip; <a href=\"http:\/\/tech-ops.co.uk\/next\/noises-off\/\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":6,"featured_media":0,"parent":0,"menu_order":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","template":"","meta":{"_coblocks_attr":"","_coblocks_dimensions":"","_coblocks_responsive_height":"","_coblocks_accordion_ie_support":"","advgb_blocks_editor_width":"","advgb_blocks_columns_visual_guide":"","_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_active":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_note":"","_monsterinsights_sitenote_category":0,"ngg_post_thumbnail":0,"footnotes":""},"categories":[7,12],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-2114","page","type-page","status-publish","hentry","category-stories","category-write-up"],"coauthors":[],"author_meta":{"author_link":"http:\/\/tech-ops.co.uk\/next\/author\/alec\/","display_name":"Alec Bray"},"relative_dates":{"created":"Posted 12 years ago","modified":"Updated 12 years ago"},"absolute_dates":{"created":"Posted on November 4, 2014","modified":"Updated on November 4, 2014"},"absolute_dates_time":{"created":"Posted on November 4, 2014 8:55 am","modified":"Updated on November 4, 2014 8:55 am"},"featured_img_caption":"","featured_img":false,"series_order":"","_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/tech-ops.co.uk\/next\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/pages\/2114","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/tech-ops.co.uk\/next\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/pages"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/tech-ops.co.uk\/next\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/page"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/tech-ops.co.uk\/next\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/6"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/tech-ops.co.uk\/next\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=2114"}],"version-history":[{"count":4,"href":"http:\/\/tech-ops.co.uk\/next\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/pages\/2114\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":2441,"href":"http:\/\/tech-ops.co.uk\/next\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/pages\/2114\/revisions\/2441"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/tech-ops.co.uk\/next\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=2114"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/tech-ops.co.uk\/next\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=2114"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/tech-ops.co.uk\/next\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=2114"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}